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Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Live from Studio C. Si, Senor Brandon.
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Brand new week, welcome to it. Who knows what's going to happen? The Armstrong and Getty show live from our broadcast compound and toiling under the
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title of the show Car Matey or Alien Meteor Attack Continues.
Jack Armstrong
Alien meteor attack.
Joe Getty
That's right.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
They opened a volley on Texas over the weekend, Jack. First it was poor Ohio feeling the brunt of the space aliens anger.
Jack Armstrong
Fantastic. So you all probably went to sleep just like I did in footy pajamas with a cup of warm buttermilk. And with the news that Trump had put out a 48 hour deadline for Iran that if they didn't completely open the straight of Hormuz by midnight tonight, it was actually midnight Tehran time, which would have been 7:45 Eastern, which is only 4:45 West Coast Time.
Joe Getty
So not that excellent time zone knowledge, sir.
Jack Armstrong
But not that many hours away till it ended that we were going to completely obliterate all their power plants in Iran. Completely obliterate their ability to have any power in that country which we have the military capability to do. That's a heck of a threat.
Joe Getty
Highly controversial too.
Jack Armstrong
And that would have been a severe escalation in an already quite escalated war. But for the first time since the war started three weeks ago.
Joe Getty
Mm. Yeah, we're just entering week four. I Believe for the first time since
Jack Armstrong
the war began three weeks ago, there is a de escalation. And Trump put out a statement blowing up all the news headlines in any actual paper, newspapers around the country, that he's gonna give him five days. Negotiations are going so well that we're gonna give him five days to let these negotiations play out. And nobody's exactly sure who he's negotiating with. The Iranians are saying there's no negotiations. We're not doing any negotiations. Of course they lie. Of course they lie about everything. They lie about everything. We got more news on that because they lied about a whole bunch of things over the weekend. But.
Joe Getty
And just because the American press prints it as if it's true doesn't mean it does. It is rather. See Hamas, please.
Jack Armstrong
But is. Did Trump actually. Do we have any negotiations going on with somebody? Or was that. Did he just decide this is gonna be too hot? And as soon as he put out his truth social post, which is the way these things are announced, that he was calling off the strike. That, again, would have been a serious escalation of this war. Because Iran said, you do that, and we're unleashing our rockets and missiles all over the place. And we found out over the weekend they can reach a lot further than anybody thought. So that's one of their lies. They had claimed. Now, we're not working on any, you know, intercontinental ballistic missiles that can go 1500 miles. We don't have any.
Joe Getty
How dare you accuse us of that?
Jack Armstrong
How dare you? And then they launched one over the weekend that went that far, which puts all kinds of, like, European capitals within range, possibly, and all kinds of stuff. So Iran said that they were going to respond to Trump wiping out the energy structure, infrastructure of the country by attacking all kinds of places. Is. Did Trump back off thinking that was a bad idea? Anyway, I lost my own point as soon as he announced it. The markets jumped this morning, like, a lot. Crude went up 4% in like, 30 seconds after his truth social post.
Joe Getty
It went up.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
Interesting. I mean.
Jack Armstrong
No, no, sorry. Down with the right direction. With the correct direction, yes. The good things happened for the world. The stock market went up. Crude got cheaper.
Joe Getty
Yes, Michael.
Jack Armstrong
No, I just keep wondering, if we're
Joe Getty
negotiating, how do we know who's in charge? I mean, if you have, you know, people saying that they're in charge.
Jack Armstrong
Are we negotiating? I don't even know if we are here.
Joe Getty
President Trump said today the US And Iran were negotiating, quote, a total resolution of our hostilities in the Middle east close quote. And that he would postpone any American attacks on Iranian power plants by five days.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
But not like a cessation of hostilities in general.
Jack Armstrong
But that's the first de escalation that has happened in three weeks of any kind. Everything else has been an escalation on both sides.
Joe Getty
So I call it a pause, collation, because there hasn't been a de escalation. There just hasn't been an escalation.
Jack Armstrong
Do you think Trump's actually. We have. Well, I'm sure Marco Rubio or somebody. Witkoff, somebody's doing the negotiating. But do you think we're actually got some negotiation going or was that just a. This is. I made a threat I shouldn't follow through on?
Joe Getty
Well, a couple of things. Number one, their foreign minister, who is apparently still sucking air, is well known. He's negotiated a bunch of their deals, you know, that they then cheated on and lied about immediately. But he's still around. I suspect he's the go to guy, whether we're actually talking to him or not. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
NPR just quoted him saying we're not negotiating about anything.
Joe Getty
All right, exactly. But to your point earlier, they lie about everything. So who.
Jack Armstrong
I wouldn't think you'd lie about that. That just kept your energy infrastructure from being obliterated.
Joe Getty
Right. Although their line is Trump is backing down. He sees the might of the Iranian military and he's backing down. Right. But the kind of, the second part of your question, I know the idea of, yeah, we'll wipe out your energy infrastructure, all of it. And Iran's like, well, we got plenty of missiles to wipe out like the energy infrastruct infrastructure of all the Gulf states. And maybe we'll take a couple of
Jack Armstrong
shots at Europe too.
Joe Getty
Huh?
Jack Armstrong
How do you like that?
Joe Getty
And virtually every world capital said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on now. I think every country in the world probably called Trump and said, let's talk about this, man.
Jack Armstrong
We won't know for a very long time the answers to some of these questions, but did Trump throw out that threat? Really big threat. Halperin's newsletter this morning, which is outdated by now, called it the mother of all threats, mother of all deadlines. It was way up there in terms of deadlines. It ranks way up there pretty high. And did Trump do that completely on a whim with a truth social post with like not talking to anybody? Or was that carefully calculated with Marco Rubio and the Pentagon and everything else?
Joe Getty
Yes or no? One or the other.
Jack Armstrong
And then this Walk back. Did he completely do it on his own with the truth social post right before the markets opened to get the market reaction he wanted, or was that carefully calculated after talks with Iran and Marco Rubio and all kinds of stuff?
Joe Getty
You know, Trump is so spontaneous and he makes claims, then contradicts them fairly quickly sometimes. The whole tariff thing was just willy nilly. For instance. My guess, My guess is that, you know, he made that threat and like I said, every country on earth.
Jack Armstrong
What?
Joe Getty
No, as whole. And none called and said, oh, can we make one request, please don't do that, because that would cause a global economic shock that would crush the markets, including the American economy, for a long time. And that's the one thing where Trump will listen. Like the savvy businessman he is.
Jack Armstrong
He does seem to react to the markets. But if, if we wiped out their entire energy infrastructure, that we're in a different place, then like the whole regime change. Rise up, country. Rise up, people and take your country. Take what country back? We got to start over. We got to rebuild everything.
Joe Getty
Yeah, It'd be a 90 million person Lord of the Flies.
Jack Armstrong
So that have been quite a thing, which I guess it's still on the table, I don't know. Five day pause.
Joe Getty
Did you actually read Lord of the Flies?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, Several times actually.
Joe Getty
I haven't.
Jack Armstrong
As an adult. Not in school.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it was never assigned and I never got to it.
Jack Armstrong
No, I, I don't know if you should read it in school. It's pretty, it's pretty rough.
Joe Getty
Especially today's soft, soft kids.
Jack Armstrong
You have not read Roller to Flies at this point?
Joe Getty
I have. No, I don't think I have.
Jack Armstrong
It's one of those books. I had Henry read it just because it gets referenced so much. I feel like there's a lot of stuff you ought to read just because it's constantly referenced. But it's damn good and it's not that long.
Joe Getty
But I think of that in terms of the Bible. Sometimes there's so many cultural references that reference the Bible, but fewer and fewer people are going to church or studying the Bible or claiming religion. That's right, sir.
Jack Armstrong
But Lord of the Flies is basically the idea that without some sort of structure or coming together with some way to govern ourselves, life is nasty, brutish and short. And yeah, Iran would have been in quite the situation. We wipe out there and then who knows what they shoot at and then what the responses are to that.
Joe Getty
So keeping in mind they are death cultists, actually. Death cultists.
Jack Armstrong
I sure hope that was the High mark or low mark, depending on how you look at it, of this war overnight with this threat, what next? And everybody decides this is not going on. Of course, like you said, they're death cultists. They're not going to decide, well, we need to back down because they'll be hung or shot. It's not like that. There's no getting out for them.
Joe Getty
Right, Right. Well, depending on who takes power. And I tell you what, I've never seen a situation like this where there are so many different possibilities of what, you know, a month, six months from now looks like. And I mean, of the like six I can come up with off the top of my head, they're like all equally likely. No idea.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I don't know that we'll get the answer, maybe even in my lifetime. But I sure would like to know if Trump, if that was a strategy or just fired off a threat like that.
Joe Getty
I'm thinking second one. I really do.
Jack Armstrong
Just on his own.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
If I had to bet money, that's
Joe Getty
what I would bet. What time of day did he put it out? Does anybody remember that?
Jack Armstrong
That looks. I have to look that up.
Joe Getty
If it was after good law fearing people were in bed, then it was probably, you know, shooting from the lip.
Jack Armstrong
We should start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is. How did it already get to be Monday, March 23, the year 2026, where Armstrong and Yeti and we approve of this program.
Joe Getty
Okay, let's leap into action officially now, according to FCC rules regs. Here we go at mark I trust dod. We got two Marine expeditionary units sailing to this island. We did Iwo Jima. We can do this. The Marines. My money is always on the Marines.
Jack Armstrong
That's a quite a thing from Lindsey Graham yesterday in terms of escalation. Marines need to take Carg Island. They took Ao Jima. They can take Carg island, for crying out loud. Oh, now we got Marines storming islands and dying by the thousands. Is that what's going on here?
Joe Getty
Oh, boy. Lindsey Graham, the hockiest hawk who ever
Jack Armstrong
hawked looking up at a Joel Hawks
Joe Getty
look at Lindsey Graham say that's too much.
Jack Armstrong
Looking up at a quote on cnn NATO chief, we absolutely can. The Hormuz Strait. The head of NATO yesterday was one one of the talk shows and he was talking in very positive terms about what Trump has done that it needed to be done. Glad he did it. It's going the right direction. I thought that was something you don't get that out of the mean. I was just watching MSNBC and if you didn't have any other information you would think we are just getting our asses kicked. It is clearly a disaster. Everybody knows it is. We're bogged down. There's no getting out.
Joe Getty
There's no plan.
Jack Armstrong
There was never a plan. It's just. It's wow.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. There's always been dissident media in free countries. But I mean, for instance, I've got a story I've been meaning to get to it, which is the conservative Media Matters Media Research Council came out with a big report that got a lot of attention a couple of weeks ago that Apple News had 0% of its featured stories, its lead stories from conservative leaning or conservative outlets. 0%. Big flap in the world of media. They've now improved to 2%. Has there ever been a republic, an empire that's tried this experiment?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Taught their kids to hate it, hate themselves, and has a media that's more than happy to oblige. It's crazy.
Jack Armstrong
How about when you go to war? Or that you're being told you're losing even if you're not. That's something. Okay, we got Katie's headlines on the way. We got a lot more news of the day that said breaking all the time because it's the era we live in. Our text line is 415295KFTZ.
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threats being thrown around like brand new threats just in the last couple hours. We'll have to get to those later.
Joe Getty
Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's lead story with Katie Green.
Katie Green
Katie okay, well these are from earlier this morning. ABC Trump says very good. Iran talks and hints at total resolution. And then Fox says Iran says no negotiations ongoing. After Trump postpones power plant strikes.
Joe Getty
Well, maybe we should start negotiating whether there are negotiations going on.
Jack Armstrong
Well, Trump says a complete resolution soon. He demanded he's. He stated there were only unconditional surrender last week.
Joe Getty
Right?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
I think this is the classical Trumpian keeping everybody off guard.
Katie Green
On the NBC, Tom Holman says ice agents will assist at crowded airport security points amid TSA shaft staffing shortages.
Jack Armstrong
This being treated in a very weird way by the media. We'll have to talk about that coming up. They're not gonna start beating people in the airports or anything?
Joe Getty
I mean, I think they should.
Jack Armstrong
Why not?
Joe Getty
Spare the rod, spoil the air traveler. That's what I say.
Jack Armstrong
Four hour lines in Atlanta, for instance, over the weekend.
Katie Green
Four hours.
Jack Armstrong
I need to go someplace really bad before I'm waiting in line.
Joe Getty
Four hours.
Jack Armstrong
Okay.
Katie Green
Dad combs out at Atlanta going through the parking garage.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm staying home. Right.
Katie Green
From the Associated Press. Pilot and co pilot killed in collision between jet and fire truck at New York's LaGuardia Airport.
Joe Getty
Yeah, just terrible situation. Yikes.
Katie Green
USA Today quote. Disgusting. Democratic senator slams Trump's reaction to Mueller's death.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, my God.
Joe Getty
Oh, that's right.
Jack Armstrong
I'm glad he forgot.
Joe Getty
Classy.
Jack Armstrong
Trump responds with I'm glad he's dead. When somebody died. Good God.
Katie Green
New York Post.
Jack Armstrong
Good. His sentence was good. I'm glad he's dead.
Katie Green
I had, I saw that on Twitter and I went, no, come on. So I opened True Social and I was like, oh, yes, he did. Okay, good.
Jack Armstrong
I'm glad he's dead.
Joe Getty
Gracious, lovely.
Katie Green
New York Post. McDonald's in Chinese City pilots humanoid robots to serve meals and greet customers. Super study finds Chicago averaged fewer than two days a year without a shooting over an entire decade.
Joe Getty
Wow, that is one shooty town.
Katie Green
And finally, the Babylon Beach, France explains they can't help open the Strait of Hormuz as they already sent all 15 of their soldiers to defend Greenland.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, wow. We didn't get to that report that came out into the last week. On Friday, the various military assets put in place to to defend Greenland against the United States. They were ready to fight the Marines.
Joe Getty
Oh, my gosh, I missed that.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll have to talk about that later. Talk about that later.
Joe Getty
Don't fight the Marines under any circumstances.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, some more of the back and forth threats between Iran and NATO and the United States and everybody else still pretty hot even though there's a ceasefire ish sort of thing going on at least around destroying their power plants. A lot more on the way. I hope you can stay here.
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this 48 hours, he's talking about the entire conflict. He says, I'm pleased to report the United States of America and the country of Iran have had over the last two days very good and productive conversations regarding a complete and total resolution of our hostilities in the Middle East. I hope that's true. I don't know that it is. There's no reporting anywhere about any conversations going on. But sometimes that's the way secret behind the scenes conversations go.
Joe Getty
So sure, sure. Just one more example of I have no idea which one is true at this point.
Jack Armstrong
We do know it's true that Trump, Trump put out a heck of a threat, 48 hour deadline to bomb the crap out of Iran and then then last second has said nope. Negotiations are going so good. Five day pause on that. So do you know Diego Garcia? He is a shortstop for the Venezuelan baseball team and he's like the best
Joe Getty
soccer player on earth.
Jack Armstrong
Came under attack by Iranian missiles over the weekend. No, Diego Garcia is a tiny little island and we and the Brits have had an air base there in the Indian Ocean. But it's almost 2500 miles from the launch site of a missile that Iran shot at him over the weekend. And nobody had any idea that Iran could shoot a rocket or missile or anything that far?
Joe Getty
Well, especially because they've been denying it categorically.
Jack Armstrong
And if they do have a rocket that will shoot that far, and apparently they do, I don't know how many of them they have. And nobody does know, nobody knew they even had that one. They could reach Oslo, Berlin, London, Paris, Munich, Rome, lots of places. So did that play any role in any of the negotiations over the weekend? I doubt it, but maybe. I don't know.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I don't know. I have an account here. Where is it that they fired two. One aborted, like it just broke apart and didn't work. Right. And the other one, it's not clear what happened to it.
Jack Armstrong
We shot it down.
Joe Getty
So they're not quite there. Okay.
Jack Armstrong
What are this report says, but we can, we can figure out what the trajectory, where it was going to go. So we, you know, the news was, oh, wow, they've got rockets that go way farther than we thought or that they had admitted to. In fact, they had specifically, as you said, denied having any building any technology that could go that far because that's part of the whole nuclear deal. Right. Not only are we not building a nuclear weapon, we don't have the kind of rocket that can deliver it anywhere. So what, are we gonna Uber it to you?
Joe Getty
Nothing to worry about here. Yeah. Diego Garcia's about far away as London and Paris from Tehran, which caught the Euro's eye for sure.
Jack Armstrong
So Iran just now, once again denying any direct talks with the United States.
Joe Getty
Well, how about indirect and calls President
Jack Armstrong
Trump postponing his deadline, a bid to cut energy costs. So
Joe Getty
that's correct.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Was there any reason for Iran to deny this just because it makes him look tough, like, hey, we didn't. They backed down, we didn't back down. Is that what they're hoping for?
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Whose benefit?
Joe Getty
Well, I think that's, to me, as best as I can tell, it's clearly what happened. Trump in the series of ever escalating threat said, we'll take out all your energy infrastructure. And Iran said, all right, we'll take out everybody else's. And the entire world said, oh, my God, please don't do that. Please don't do that. And so Trump backed off of it because it would just cause more harm than it would accomplish. Good. Partly, you know, to lower energy prices.
Jack Armstrong
It's true. So, Ian Bremer, that's reasonable.
Joe Getty
Actually,
Jack Armstrong
Ian Bremmer's take on it is Trump's climb down is unilateral, says nothing about Iranian intentions. It doesn't mean anything. Iran has changed anything about their strategies whatsoever. Is just Trump deciding this would be too hot.
Joe Getty
Yeah, he went too far with his online threats.
Jack Armstrong
It's the old productive talks routine to evade the self imposed deadline, says Ian Bremmer. I don't know. I don't know. Do you think he did? Like, like if you're a parent and you say you do that one more time and I'm taking away your cell phone and they do it and then you think, I don't want to take away their cell phone over this. But I already said it.
Joe Getty
Well, you present them with a five day plan and you better come around or, you know, it's it. Yeah, it's, it's a climb down, a step down.
Jack Armstrong
All right.
Joe Getty
But again, I think that if there was a mistake made, it was in the initial threat because it would do so much damage to the global economy and Trump didn't realize it or, or just wanted to make the threat because he threatened stuff all the time and doesn't carry it out. Sometimes he threatened stuff and does carry it out, as always, keeping you on your heels, off balance.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Okay, well, we'll keep you updated on that whole thing throughout the, throughout the day because I have a feeling there's going to be a lot more news on this.
Joe Getty
I have a couple of things I'm really excited about talking about today that have nothing to do with war or even really politics per se.
Jack Armstrong
Yay.
Joe Getty
In and including, I have, with the help of an actual scientist, boiled down all the nutritional information you need to one sentence. This is the diet to follow in one sentence. It's the All Kelp diet. Stay with us.
Jack Armstrong
Since I read a number of Ian Bremmer tweets that were kind of semi critical of Trump and what he's done. Let me hit you with this one. Based on what we just reported to you, turned out the Iranian government was lying about not developing any ballistic missiles with the kind of range that we saw over the weekend. Hardly surprising. But it is justification for removing their ballistic missile capability. Militarily. It is, it is a justification for taking that out. They had much more capability to deliver weapons further than they, than they claimed.
Joe Getty
Right. I can't remember when I was hammering this point. It might have been prior to the Fordo strike. Anybody who says or writes anything that carries with it the implication that Iran is negotiating in good faith is a fool. A fool and a jackass and anti American.
Jack Armstrong
I was Gonna say or just anti Trump, Anti American.
Joe Getty
Right, right.
Jack Armstrong
Do we have an ad here, Michael? No. Good. How about I'll do a transition comment and then we could do one of your things. That's not. That has anything to do with super. Chuck Norris died on Friday, God rest his soul. My favorite Chuck Norris thing I saw over the weekend. Chuck Norris told a woman to calm down and she did. That might be the ultimate Chuck Norris joke.
Joe Getty
Where did I just. Where did I just hear? Was it on our show that Chuck Norris. He was reading this. I can make a snowman out of rain.
Jack Armstrong
That's a good one.
Joe Getty
That's a good one.
Jack Armstrong
Can unscramble an egg is a good one.
Joe Getty
Told a woman to calm down and she did. Oh, my Lord.
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Joe Getty
Okay. Perfect transition. And I'm slightly ashamed, slightly ashamed that I did not come to this myself. Greg Lukianoff, hero of the show, free speech crusader. Don't always disagree with him, but by God, he's enthusiastic about the First Amendment. And Adam Goldstein, who is also part of fire, the foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. They wrote a piece entitled Afroman, American Patriot. Thin Skinned Police. Rap videos and pound cake aside, this ridiculous saga is also seriously inspiring.
Jack Armstrong
And did we talk about this much on the show? I know we did on the podcast.
Joe Getty
I was mostly on the podcast. We might. We might have to set this up in a way that's going to take more time than we have right now. I will tell you this. Joseph Foreman, AKA Afroman. Because I got high. Because I got high. That guy and a couple of their minor hits. I'm told he was out of town when the local police raided his home on drug and kidnapping charges. Found nothing, filed no charges, but his security system and his wife with her cell phone, recorded a lot of it, audio and video. And then as Lukianoff and Goldstein summarize it, that he wasn't home, but his wife and young children then 10 and 12 were. He would later rap. Did you have to traumatize my kids?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Cops who conducted the search, set of songs mocking the raid, traumatized them and sued him and dragged him into Court.
Jack Armstrong
His 10 year old and 12 year old were at home alone. And the cops came in with guns drawn with Mom.
Joe Getty
Mom.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, mom was there, okay.
Joe Getty
Yeah. With her cell phone. Yeah. Finding no evidence, the police left in their wake a broken door, a damaged gate, and surveillance footage of a law enforcement operation straight out of the Keystone Cops. Afroman responded the way artists have responded to being wronged since time. Immemorial he turned it into art for. For music videos of songs including Lemon pound Cake, inspired by one officer's lingering glance at the titular treat under a protective glass dome on the kitchen counter. We don't have a word for that. Protective dome. The other day I forgot it, though.
Jack Armstrong
Just a cloche.
Joe Getty
A cloche.
Jack Armstrong
The glass thing or whatever, the thing you put over a cake is a
Joe Getty
cloche, in my opinion.
Jack Armstrong
So I still haven't seen the video. The cops going in the kitchen, going through the kitchen with a gun drawn and spots the cake.
Joe Getty
And then. Oh, this guy does a hilarious double take. He's like. Breaks his neck. Yeah, exactly, Katie.
Katie Green
And then Afroman referred to him as family guy because he has a strong resemblance to Peter Griffin.
Joe Getty
Right, so Lemon pound cake is one of the songs. Will you help me repair my door? Was another one, which he incorporated footage of the raid from his home security system and his wife's cell phone. And then as he offered a trial, testifying in the drab courtroom while wearing a flamboyant American flag themed suit and matching sunglasses.
Jack Armstrong
Cool.
Joe Getty
Afroman said the music videos were intended to communicate with his fans about the police's actions and to, quote, do something peaceful to raise the money to pay for the damage to his house. Inevitably, the fundraising included selling merch. Satirizing the episode. Several of the deputies sued over the video. Defamation, pain and suffering. One of the guys claimed that it broke up his marriage. His wife testified. No, it didn't. Let's see. The one guy said he had hundreds of pounds of pound cakes sent to him at work.
Jack Armstrong
Was set a crime. I mean, what do you need counseling for that?
Joe Getty
All right, so anyway, their point is that a country cannot use the force of the state to silence you after it has attempted him to humiliate you and damaged your property. He had a gripe with the government. The government overplayed its hand, did him damage, and he gets to talk about it any way he wants.
Jack Armstrong
How did they get.
Joe Getty
That is a beautiful affirmation of the first amendment.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. How did they get a warrant to go into his house like that? That. On what corrupt cop shop? It's just plain from what I've heard. Local
Joe Getty
Barney Fife ish, didn't like the guy. Insular, hard ass, small town cops situation.
Jack Armstrong
That is scary. It is.
Joe Getty
So the government abused this guy and he got to talk about it and sing about it and make funny videos about it. Because the government can't do one thing. They can't make you shut up ever. That's a beautiful thing. And I'm glad Luke Yanof and Goldstein put it the way they did.
Jack Armstrong
I love donuts and cake, but I can't imagine if I was in like a got my gun drawn life or death situation that I would get distracted by a donut on the counter. As much as I like donuts, I might.
Joe Getty
What about like a fresh baked apple pie?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. I still don't think I would, but
Joe Getty
maybe catches your eye. Seems like you're in a pretty second glance important moment.
Katie Green
Firearm out of holster, you got your
Jack Armstrong
gun in your hand, trigger ready.
Katie Green
A pound cake.
Joe Getty
All right, well, first of all, boy's a bit rotund as we refer to. He loves cake more than you do, clearly. Second thing is, sorry to turn this serious. This is a bunch of Yahoo jackasses conducting a raid. They already knew. They. She told him he's not even here. He's out of town. So there's a woman and a couple of children saying, what are you doing in here? It was not a dangerous situation. So yeah, he had his gun out. But look, plenty of time to notice. Cakes.
Jack Armstrong
Look, cake. That's so hilarious. And then people mailing him pound cakes.
Joe Getty
Hundreds of them.
Jack Armstrong
Saw that. You like cake. Here's another one.
Katie Green
Here's another one.
Joe Getty
Oh, I love this. The more I think about it, the more I love it.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that's great. Do we have all that stuff posted at the website? I think we do, don't we? Yes.
Joe Getty
Yeah, we'll have links you can find super easily. Armstrong and getty.com. give us a minute or two, we'll have them up up there for you.
Jack Armstrong
We got Mailbag on the way.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
one seed, first number one seed to drop in the tournament yesterday. The Sweet 16 has been named. If you're following the NCAA, how's your bracket? Not mine. Mine is not good. I'm in last place with the group I'm competing with.
Joe Getty
Oh dfl, that's a little painful. You know my computer, the webpage just crashed.
Jack Armstrong
Give me a second. I'm in last place in my group I'm competing with with my NCAA bracket. But I did to my credit or discredit, I watched 0 seconds of college basketball this year. 0 seconds.
Joe Getty
Wow. Wow. Yeah, I've been watching my fight in a line I hear doing pretty well but they're up against Houston. Here's your freedom loving quote of the
Jack Armstrong
day
Joe Getty
continuing our series about war as I revive revived my webpage the two. This is from Tolstoy. Jack, an author don't you know?
Jack Armstrong
Leo Toast I've been to his home. How did you find it? Cool.
Joe Getty
Excellent. The two most powerful warriors are patience and time. That's mine.
Jack Armstrong
That's a good one.
Joe Getty
It is a good one in both and more in regular life. Mailbag, drop us a note mailbagarmstrongetti.com Brian from Houston Dear Cold Warrior and old Fancy Jack. If we we have all seen Trump derangement syndrome up close and personal where anything Trump does has to be bad. I think TWS Trump worshiping syndrome is just as bad where anything President Trump does is the right move.
Jack Armstrong
Sure.
Joe Getty
What, what happened to the only way to look at a politician is down? Yeah, I'm with you, Ryan.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. I can't imagine having either one of those things. I just, I don't feel like I'm built for it.
Joe Getty
No, no, me neither. Paul. And the Sea Ranch. Lovely community.
Jack Armstrong
Community.
Joe Getty
Coastal California. A great definition of maturity is doing what you want even if your mother wants you to do it. That is one of my all time favorites. Democratic legislatures, legislators except for Senator Fetterman don't have the maturity to do what they want to do even if Trump wants them to do it. That's a good metaphor, Paul.
Jack Armstrong
I Like it.
Joe Getty
Fetterman's approval ratings in Pennsylvania are like 11%. Oh, the way he's getting murdered for his moderation.
Jack Armstrong
I did not know that.
Joe Getty
Well, I was shocked myself.
Jack Armstrong
So he'll probably be a one term senator then, huh?
Joe Getty
It looks like that.
Jack Armstrong
Good for him though of just, you know, saying what he thinks. I mean he's 180 degrees from what most politicians do. They will say freaking anything to say in office. That's the only thing they care about, right? Like 95% of them.
Joe Getty
Yeah. JT in Livermore. Why hasn't Carg island been disabled? I don't get it. I know Trump wants to preserve Iran's economic engine to help rebuild after the war, but letting Iran close the straits while allowing them to sell even more oil during the war than before the war is inexplicable. I know that oil's combustible, but I can't believe we don't have a way to turn off the spigots at Carg island to bring Iran's economy to a halt.
Jack Armstrong
There's plenty of news out there over the weekend that the Strait or Straits will be open within a couple of weeks. And then this whole it's closed period will have lasted a month.
Joe Getty
Patience and time, Tolstoy. And this on that theme from Aaron. Oh, gas is so expensive.
Jack Armstrong
Sit down and shut up.
Joe Getty
He says in all caps. Paying the high cost without complaint is what patriots do. Nbfos. What is? Oh, no blood for oil. Whining about the cost of gas is a dumbass position. How about some blood for oil? That is and has been my pragmatic position for 24 years. You think our ancestors could have braved this American frontier if they believed that no amount of blood was worth it? You babies, zero tolerance for people complaining about the cost of gas and those who harbor them. You're either with us or you're with the terrorists.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Well, something like 2/3 of Americans are against the war currently, depending on which poll you look at.
Joe Getty
And in health news, number one, boil down dietary advice to one sentence practically. Second guys, prostate health 21 times a month. Use it or lose it.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. We'll have to get to that now. We gotta get to that now.
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Episode: Oh My God Is That A Cake?!
Date: March 23, 2026
This episode of Armstrong & Getty centers on escalating international tensions, particularly the US-Iran conflict, and President Trump's high-stakes, on-again-off-again threats and their impact on global markets and diplomacy. The hosts analyze the confusion and media spin around whether meaningful US-Iran negotiations are actually happening. Later, the show lightens up with a lively discussion about First Amendment rights, satirical protest music from rapper Afroman after an over-the-top police raid—highlighted by the viral “lemon pound cake” incident—and concludes with mailbag commentary, discussions on media bias, and comic relief.
Timestamps: 04:04 – 13:56; 27:10 – 33:38
Initial Threat
De-escalation & Uncertainty
Market Reactions and Global Stakes
Speculation on Trump’s Motives
Notable Quotes
Timestamps: 15:00 – 16:47
Media Bias in Crisis
Spin and Mixed Messaging
Timestamps: 20:02 – 23:32
Timestamps: 27:10 – 33:38
Missile Range Surprises
Diplomatic Posturing
Timestamps: 34:28 – 40:41
Setting the Scene
Creative Protest
Memorable Moment
Timestamps: 44:30 – 48:51
Listener Feedback
Comic Bits
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