Oh No! We've Got An Offended Person!!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Oh No! We've Got An Offended Person!!

Date: February 6, 2026
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand (iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode discusses the contentious culture of offense in public institutions, focusing on a viral school board incident involving the language around homelessness ("homeless" vs. "unhoused"). The hosts then pivot to education standards, humorous public naming contests, and a deep-dive into new revelations surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s associates and the broader implications among the global elite. The tone is irreverent, sarcastic, and heavily skeptical of current socio-political trends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Arrest in the Benghazi Case & Disappearance Updates

Timestamps: 00:14–01:15

• Brief opening noting the arrest related to Benghazi, and sparse new information in Savannah Guthrie's mom’s disappearance.
• Joe jokes about "countries where the US can’t have me arrested."
• The segments serve as warm-up chatter.

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2. School Board Outrage: “Homeless” vs. “Unhoused”

Timestamps: 01:27–09:55

Incident Breakdown

• Location: Pajaro Valley Unified School District, Monterey County, CA.
• A board member, Joy Flynn, is "personally offended" by the use of the word “homeless” instead of the more progressive “unhoused.”
• Audio is played of Joy Flynn's lengthy, emotional objection ([02:07], [07:06]).
  • Quote (Joy Flynn, 02:07): “I am personally offended by what was presented on so many different levels. One thing I would like to see updated is the word homeless to unhoused...”
• Armstrong & Getty react with disbelief and sarcasm about hypersensitivity and performative offense.
  • Quote (Joe Getty, 03:12): “That is elected official Joy Flynn.”
  • Quote (Jack Armstrong, 03:26): “If you’re deeply, personally offended by that sort of thing, how do you get through the day...?”

Larger Themes

• Critique of the left’s “capture” of social institutions via language.
  • Quote (Joe Getty, 04:47): “…institutions [have] been captured by the radical left in their brilliant, brilliant strategy of call anybody who opposes us a racist…”
• The cyclical updating of "approved" terms is likened to tactics from China’s Cultural Revolution and Orwellian doublespeak.
  • Quote (Joe Getty, 05:58): “She is a...good Maoist with American characteristics... You change those words and those slogans frequently enough...”
• Searing mockery of “offended alarms” and the paralysis of public discourse around potential offense.
  • Quote (Jack Armstrong, 07:35): “We’ve got an offended person here, people. Dial 9...”

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3. Erosion of Education Standards

Timestamps: 09:55–12:24

• NJ and other states are eliminating high school exit exam requirements, making diplomas less meaningful.
  • Quote (Jack Armstrong, 09:55): “New Jersey joins many other states in the rush to make high school diplomas worthless.”
• Discussion of teacher unions’ opposition, “equity” rationales from progressives, and the moral implications.
  • Quote (Jack Armstrong, 11:14): “It’s not about lifting up the bottom. It’s about bringing down the top...”
  • Quote (Joe Getty, 12:10): “You just… can’t appeal to their conscience because their conscience tells them what they’re doing is exactly the right thing.”

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4. Public Naming Contests & Humor

Timestamps: 12:21–17:15

• A new baby elephant at the National Zoo needs a name—hosts lampoon the controlled suggestion process.
  • Recalling past public naming absurdities: “Mr. Splashy Pants” (whale), “Boaty McBoatface,” “Horsey McHorseface.”
• Commentary on American humor, subversion, and the need “not to lose this spirit.”
  • Quote (Joe Getty, 16:16): “Americans are the funniest people on earth. It’s not even close. We can’t lose that...”

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5. Epstein Scandal: New Revelations & Global Elite

Timestamps: 13:21–32:54 (sprinkled throughout but especially dense 17:18–32:54)

Key Updates

• New DOJ docs show an unexplained “orange colored shape” near Epstein's cell the night he died.
  • Quote (Jack Armstrong, 18:21): “How is this stuff just coming out now? The entry in an observation log... appears to suggest something previously unreported...”

Elite Connections & Fallout

• Discussion on prominent figures (Larry Summers, Prince Andrew, Peter Mandelson) who remained friendly or offered support/advice to Epstein even after conviction.
• Public versus private stances—private messages showed solidarity, downplayed crimes, and offered PR advice.
  • Quote (Joe Getty, 25:27): “Noam Chomsky, like, does he not believe Epstein did it… He’s telling him to stay silent...”
  • Quote (Joe Getty, 25:56): “That’s particularly true now with the hysteria that’s developed about abuse of women, which has reached the point that even questioning a charge is a crime worse than murder...”
  • Quote (Jack Armstrong, 28:19): “Are you saying, dude, as one of the highest ranking officials in all of England… powerful men get to have sex with underage women and not end up in jail?”

Bigger Picture Speculation

• Was Epstein an intelligence asset (possibly Israeli)? Hosts remain skeptical but raise the question.
• Disgust at institutional fawning over power, and how the elite rationalize or ignore abuse.
  • Quote (Joe Getty, 29:13): “...an attitude that...Those girls were lucky to get a taste of it. They were there of their own free will. This is all ridiculous. They’re untouchable.”

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6. Sports, Pop Culture, and Light-hearted Segments

Timestamps: 32:54–36:26

• Brief notes on NFL MVP (Matthew Stafford), Super Bowl prop bets, and halftime show entertainment.
• Typical Armstrong & Getty “end-on-a-lighter-note” banter.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “[On being offended:] Well, and let’s not forget, just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right...” —Joe Getty [03:32]
• “The offended alarm! You know your jobs. We’ve drilled, we’ve drilled.” —Joe Getty [09:23]
• “You change those words and those slogans frequently enough that people must be up to date on the party line and must use the right terms. Or you castigate them…” —Joe Getty [05:58]
• “Telling a kid he got a high school diploma when it doesn’t mean a freaking thing is a really evil thing to do.” —Jack Armstrong [12:03]
• “Americans are the funniest people on earth. It’s not even close. We can’t lose that...” —Joe Getty [16:16]
• “Public correspondence recently made public tells a different story. Prominent people in politics, business and academia didn’t just maintain ties with Epstein after his 2008 conviction...they actively consulted, sold him, cast him as a victim, and… offered advice on how to rehabilitate his image…” —Wall Street Journal quoted by Joe Getty [24:48]
• “Is it all just sex? It can’t all be sex, can it?” —Jack Armstrong [29:10]

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Major Segment Timestamps

• 01:27: School board “homeless/unhoused” controversy begins
• 02:07–03:08: Joy Flynn’s original comments played
• 07:06–07:31: Joy Flynn’s audio replayed, hosts' rapid reactions
• 09:55: Education standards discussion starts
• 12:21: Zoo elephant naming, humor on public votes
• 17:18–19:38: Epstein, “orange shape” on surveillance, new DOJ docs
• 24:48–32:54: Deep-dive on Epstein’s network, global elite, and moral bankruptcy

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Episode Summary

This episode starkly criticizes modern performative outrage over language, especially as it plays out in public institutions like schools—using the "homeless" to "unhoused" debate as emblematic of misplaced progressive energies. Armstrong & Getty weave this theme into a broader attack on declining accountability in education, government, and the elite. The extended Epstein segment highlights the moral compromises and hypocrisy among the world's most powerful, with some stunningly candid (and damning) private correspondences coming to light. Wrapped with humorous asides about public naming contests and Super Bowl pop culture, the episode blends acid-tongued social commentary with biting wit and occasional moments of astonished disbelief.

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For listeners who missed the episode:
You'll find a critical—if deeply skeptical—take on current cultural trends, plenty of quotable sarcasm, and an incisive exploration of elite corruption around the Epstein scandal, wrapped in Armstrong & Getty’s trademark irreverent banter.

Transcript

[Joy Flynn]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting. Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Waiting for some of the details to come out. They just announced they arrested someone in the Benghazi. Remember the Benghazi story? The attack on our embassy and people die and that whole thing. They arrested somebody.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so we'll figure out that guy. I'm. I'm asking my AI hey, what are countries where the US can't have me arrested and I would just be in those countries?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

How did we arrest him?

[Jack Armstrong]

We've got a little bit of new information on the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy Guthrie. I think this story might peter out at some point when there's just no information and she's gone. And there's always possibilities. They just don't ever find her.

[Joe Getty]

We have some of the best analysis we've come across on this case from a learned FBI guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

I look forward to that. Here's something that will annoy you. Do you want to be annoyed?

[Joe Getty]

I woke up annoyed.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know where this school district is. Pajero Valley. I don't. How do you pronounce that? You suppose.

[Joe Getty]

Monterey County, California.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it's in Monterey. Okay. This is a school board meeting. Somebody apparently had stood up during the school board meeting and used the term homeless talking about something. And it was actually. Because I heard it actually in a very progressive sort of way. It was like, you know, we need to do something to help the homeless. They're out there, and it's cold and blah, blah, blah. Anyway, even though that's the side of it they were on, this is the way the school board member responded to it.

[Joy Flynn]

I have a lot to say, and I will speak plainly, and you may not like it. I am personally offended by what was presented on so many different levels. One thing I would like to see updated is the word homeless to unhoused. I'm not done. Can I. I just don't want Mr. Berman to. For this to be on him. That's the way our state of California. That's the language that they use, and that's their. It doesn't mean that's the language we have to use. I'm. I'm. I'm a statement, and I just want to make sure that he's not. I. I understand that. I recognize that you're using the information that was given to you that you researched, and I'm asking That it be updated.

[Joe Getty]

That is elected official Joy Flynn.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's just let that breathe for a little bit.

[Joe Getty]

Where do you start?

[Jack Armstrong]

As Michael said yesterday, Michelangelo said yesterday. How do these people get through the day? I mean, if you find. I am deeply offended.

[Joe Getty]

Personally offended.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you're deeply, personally offended by that sort of thing, how do you get through the day without just being angry all day long?

[Joe Getty]

Well, and let's not forget, just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. In fact, in my experience, being that sort of offended is generally someone who's wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

How about somebody jumping in who's probably also a lefty wacko, saying well before you jump down his throat? It's the actual language in our, you know, in any of our legal documents about the situation, so. Well, that doesn't mean we have to use the word. Yes, Katie, I'm also finding some comedy.

[Joe Getty]

In the fact that her name is Joy. Yes, indeed.

[Jack Armstrong]

You are a joy.

[Joe Getty]

You are. You are fun.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're like a one woman party. You walk in the door, the party started, boy.

[Joe Getty]

And that poor son of a buck in the background, you can hear him. A point of order. These two dumbbees are driving me insane. I don't know if that's a point of order, but it's happening anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just thought that was interesting, you know, that that is not a, you know, an isolated incident. I'm sure that is an indicator of all kinds of kinds of crap that that school board believes and discusses and worries about and emphasizes, spends money on.

[Joe Getty]

You worry about the fact that the kids aren't learning. Well, it's the schools, like so many different institutions of society, have been captured by the radical left in their brilliant, brilliant strategy of call anybody who opposes us a racist because in America that's a terrible thing to be. They will back down. We, we will take control of the organization and then we can install the policies of the radical left. There is a perfect example of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

But these weirdo.

[Joe Getty]

Why are you even talking about that at a school board meeting, much less having some sort of mortal battle over it?

[Jack Armstrong]

These straight out of the Cultural Revolution China people with their. They're so nuts. How do you. They don't know how nuts they are, apparently, or how. How nuts the rest of us see them as. Nobody's gonna benefit from saying unhoused instead of homeless. Not a single good thing will happen. And you seem to think it's just so out of bounds, so much harm.

[Joe Getty]

Being done by saying offended.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are you talking about?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, they're crazy. Although she's also. She is a. A good Maoist. A good, you know, Maoist with American characteristics to flip that old socialist thing on its head in that. And Jack, you know this from the Soviet revolution too. You change those words and those slogans frequently enough that people must be up to date on the party line and must use the right terms. Or you castigate them, you yell at them, you punish them, you throw them out, whatever. And then people become so obsessed with just getting it right, they no longer. They have no sight of the original issue. It's merely being a slave to the party line. That's what this Joy Flynn is very good at, and that's what she's insisting on. Because once you have, you're completely divorced from reality and what's actually happening. All you have is fans of Orwell, what. What the party tells you is true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can you play just the beginning part again? Because I just like how disappointed and angry she is about this situation.

[Joy Flynn]

I have a lot to say, and I will speak plainly. And you may not like it.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no.

[Joy Flynn]

I'm personally offended by what was presented. Oh, no, you offended on so many different levels.

[Joe Getty]

Multiple levels.

[Joy Flynn]

One thing I would like to see updated is the word homeless to unhoused. I'm not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, I'm not so.

[Joe Getty]

Joy, you're an idiot. Shut up. That's what the lady wanted to say.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's a lot of that kind of person in there because there's the. I'm personally offended. And we're all supposed to just take a step back. We've got an offended person here, people. Dial 9. We'll be exactly that. If anybody's offended all of a sudden. Oh, no, no.

[Joe Getty]

What do we do?

[Jack Armstrong]

Heaven and earth needs to be moved to make sure no one's ever offended. Because if anybody's offended, clearly that's like the worst crime on earth. And then the other part is there. I'm going to speak truth to power. You might not like it, but I'm about to hit you with the truth bomb. And you know, that whole thing, whatever. Shut up.

[Joe Getty]

Her first name is Joy, but her last name should be Kill. Yes, yes, there you go. I am personally offended. Oh, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have an offended person. People either whoop, whoop, whoop.

[Joe Getty]

Seriously, everybody, take a second, as long as it takes, to picture the people you've come across personally and at work, whatever, church, whatever, who have come at you with that attitude and words like that. How often have they been right and sane and a reasonable person, and how often have Words like that come out of the mouths of somebody who's the opposite of all those things. And yet during the woke apocalypse especially, that attitude caused everybody to freeze. Oh my God, what have I done? What have I done? I'll just be quiet and let you tell me what to do and how to live and what to say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh no.

[Joe Getty]

Oh no. I'm not transphobic. I'm not a racist, I'm not a bigot. I'm not a unhoused.

[Jack Armstrong]

And in some places I'll quit my job or be fired or whatever because I got on the wrong side of your. Well, you were offended. I shouldn't be allowed to work here anymore. You have been offended.

[Joe Getty]

Including we got an offended person. The offended alarm. The offended alarm.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, your jobs.

[Joe Getty]

We've drilled, we've drilled.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do your jobs.

[Joe Getty]

Including when they realized, wait a minute, this stuff. People have like rational arguments against some of the things we're saying. Let's invent microaggressions so we can pretend the most innocuous things are actually horrible. So everybody's so terrified they don't know what to do or say and they shut up and let us take over. That's the way it works, folks. That's the way it works.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. So one more school thing I wanted to jam in. That's a different sort of thing, but also an example of how our public school systems are so bad. New Jersey joins many other states in the rush to make high school diplomas worthless. That's the headline in the New York Post. But what they're doing is they're eliminating the high school graduation requirement like it was done in lots and lots and lots of states. I remember when they first started talking about it in California and we were outraged. It turns out there are now not lots of places to do it. Tossing such basic academic standards is a nationwide public education trend. Over the past 25 years, the number of states with a high school exit test requirement has gone from 30 to 11. So a whole bunch of states have gotten rid of it.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's weird that that was exactly a coincident with the rise of the teachers unions charges schools and school boards.

[Jack Armstrong]

Teachers unions hate them because suggest the kids aren't learning what they should. Progressives, on the other hand, believe that it helps equality or something.

[Joe Getty]

Equity.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just. It's amazing that you could possibly think getting rid of the graduation proficiency assessment is a good thing. Yeah, I. We all know what's going on here, I think, but.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, just like our socialism discussion it's not about lifting up the bottom. It's about bringing down the top and. Or eliminating any differ.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shared misery, I will say, as I've said.

[Joe Getty]

Or ignorance, though.

[Jack Armstrong]

The people that actually know what they're doing, I think some people don't quite get what is. They actually for some reason think this is helping the downtrodden. But the people that know what they're doing, because a lot of people know what they're doing. I don't know how you sleep at night. How can you send high school graduates out in the world? They can't do basic math or read and they're going to. Their lives are going to suck. And you're okay with that? How do you sleep at night?

[Joe Getty]

I'll tell you precisely how. It's a necessary sacrifice to bring about the revolution.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man.

[Joe Getty]

It's like a soldier dying in war.

[Jack Armstrong]

Telling a kid he got a high school diploma when it doesn't mean a freaking thing is a really evil thing to do. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You just. You can't appeal to their conscience because their conscience tells them what they're doing is exactly the right thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right?

[Joe Getty]

You just gotta beat them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of joy, we need more joy on the show. Starting to bring myself down.

[Joe Getty]

Or more beatings. Or. Here it is, the struggle to name the new baby elephant at the National Zoo in Washington, D.C. that's a good one.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good one.

[Joe Getty]

Stay with us.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the baby elephant walk there. If you. You don't know your great music. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

All. They seen you, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Hey, stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

I see Bad Bunny everywhere. I don't know. I. I don't. Seriously, I don't think there's ever been a halftime show buzz or talk ever, for whatever reason. Maybe just because I don't know if they've ever had a halftime show where you had the current biggest artist in the world most streamed one Grammy for best album a week ago.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's great timing for the NFL if they're hoping to gain younger and ethnically diverse and global audiences. And they are all of the above. Old farts who like football. They've got us already. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, coming up, believe it or not, there is an aspect of the Epstein case that has really captured my imagination. I posed the question yesterday. I said, I'd like to ask a lot of the people who continued to correspond with him and be friends with him, do business with him, whatever, who are now saying, oh, I regret it very much, blah, blah, blah, how they would explain themselves. Well, in that ridiculously large and unjustifiably unedited tranche of files that they put out. That question gets answered, more or less.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

And it's, it's an interesting glimpse into the lifestyles of the rich and famous, for sure. Uh, anyway, we'll get to that.

[Jack Armstrong]

You may bring down Britain's Prime Minister.

[Joe Getty]

Uh, yeah, there's a really good chance of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

But first, this from a truly wonderful zoo, if you've never been there. The National Zoo in Washington, D.C. tony decouple on CBS Evening News.

[Tony Decouple]

The National Zoo has welcomed a new baby elephant, the first there in 25 years. Described as alert and bright eyed, weighing in at 308 pounds at birth. Fans can now vote to name the new elephant on the zoo's website. But we all know how this sort of thing has gone in the past. When Greenpeace asked for help naming an endangered whale in 2007, Mr. Splashy Pants is what the public chose. Then we got Bodie McBoatface in 2016, when the United Kingdom asked the public to vote on names for our research vessel of all things that inspired the Australian racehorse named, yes, Horsey McHorseface. Lessons have been learned and the National Zoo is asking for the public's help naming this beautiful new elephant. But you only get to choose between four options the zoo has already approved. The zoo is apparently not interested in your suggestion for Trunky mctrunk Face.

[Joe Getty]

That's like. This is like Iran, where you have their approved candidates on the ballot.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there was.

[Joe Getty]

I thought this was America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Horsey McCourse face.

[Joe Getty]

What was the whale?

[Jack Armstrong]

What was the whale? Yeah, what was the whale? That was a good one.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, Mr. McSplashy Pants or something. That's right, Mr. Splashy Paste. Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, God. That brings me joy. Now, what does that mean about the human spirit? That if you get to name a boat and somebody comes up with one of those funny names that everybody says, yeah, let's pick that one.

[Joe Getty]

Is that sticking it to the man or what is that with the tip of the cap? To the Aussies, Americans are the funniest people on earth. It's not even close. We can't lose that. You know, we spend all day attacking each other. Of course, a lot of people are lunatics, but yeah, God damn, I remember.

[Jack Armstrong]

When that Boaty McBoatface thing happened, and I thought it was the most hilarious thing I'd ever heard.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Trunky mctrunk Face is too obvious. You got to be a little more creative than that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mr. Splashy Pants. Yeah, that is really, really good. So are the four names just like.

[Joe Getty]

I love this country.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you get to choose between four predetermined names.

[Joe Getty]

This is the Swahili word for.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. I just asked the Internet for a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Funny name for an elephant and they said Trunk Norris. You're right.

[Joe Getty]

It's a good one. You're right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure there's some name that calls to mind the struggles of climate change or, you know, that sort of thing.

[Joe Getty]

Lor, we're naming him Ellison after the father of the Climate Change Science conference. Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got some Epstein stuff that I think is interesting too. So we'll have to get to all that. Stick around.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

High stakes in the House of Commons. UK Prime Minister and Labour Party leader Keir Starmer's political life on the line. All because of the latest release of documents tied to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Starmer didn't know the late Epstein and wasn't mentioned in the files. But Labor Party bigwig Peter Mandelson, who Starmer named UK ambassador to the US in 2024, did know the late Epstein and was named in those files. Okay. Knowing the guy and named in the files means absolutely nothing to me. What did that guy do? Must have been something bad.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we, we can get into it. He was a. He offered moral support and rationalizations and insider trading information on British assets and money and stuff like that. This guy. And I want to, I want to read more about this because it, it, I think it's a real glimpse at the Labour Party in Britain, specifically in British politics. This guy has been booted out of high office now three times for serious scandals and they keep bringing him back in. Wow. What's going on there?

[Jack Armstrong]

No kidding. So here this some Epstein latest. This from CBS News. And Mark Halpern put this in his newsletter today. Newly released Department of Justice documents. I don't know why this stuff is new, but it's new. Show that investigators reviewing surveillance footage from the night Epstein died observed an orange colored shape moving up a staircase toward the isolated locked tier where his cell was located that night. How is this stuff just coming out now? The entry in an observation log of the video from the Metropolitan Correctional center where he died appears to suggest something previously unreported by authorities. Why was it unreported before a flash of orange?

[Joe Getty]

Fact that the flash of orange was seen is like great grist for the conspiracy mill. The fact that it hadn't been reported till now is like adding radiation to it and then making it grow 50 times its size. Like some sort of 1950s spider movie or something. Good Lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

A flash of orange looks to be going up the L tier stairs. Could possibly be an inmate escorted up to that tier. Is the way it was.

[Joe Getty]

Flying pumpkin. Yeah, I'm guessing it's an inmate is.

[Jack Armstrong]

The way it was written in the log. It also appears, according to an FBI memorandum that reviews by investigators led to disparate conclusions by the FBI. So they didn't all agree. That's interesting. And those examining the same video from the Department of Justice's Office of Inspector General. The FBI log describes the fuzzy image as possibly an inmate. Yeah, what you said. The fact that this is just being revealed now makes it look really bad. Makes it look really bad. Um, I also think it's interesting that they came to, you know, you got different FBI officials coming to different conclusions on this stuff and then they had to come up with some sort of consensus to be the, the official story. And then one more critic that's probably.

[Joe Getty]

Not like really rare given, you know, the lack of super concrete evidence.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guess it depends on how disparate it is.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

You got one guy saying, what are you killing? You think he kidding? You think he killed himself? Right.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So, Mark Halperin, summary of this. The, the latest Epstein stuff is this. This is one of the many new Epstein and Maxwell related revelations that have come out with more coming soon. Keep focused on signal versus noise on this stuff. The gossipists are concerned about the who will lose their jobs over the scandal, including maybe the UK Prime Minister and some additional Hollywood types. But keep your eye on the main stuff such as who Epstein worked for and the circumstances of his death and of course how Maxwell got moved into her cushy prison. Still a bit of a mystery. Mark Halperin. I watch his, his video cast now and then and he is a. I'm not convinced Epstein killed himself guy. So that's pretty damned interesting. Obviously, if we got closer to. I know some of you don't think there's a chance he killed himself, but if we got closer to most people believing he didn't kill himself, now that blows the story wide open. Right. And you'd have to have something really serious to hide to have a guy whacked in prison.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And I could see the Brits doing it. The Labor Party, look at what it's doing to them. Well, if it's gonna lose power for.

[Jack Armstrong]

A decade, if it's gonna bring down a prime minister, that's pretty big. That's Some pretty big stakes. So wouldn't that be something if a foreign government somehow got to an American in an American prison and killed him? Whoa. That would be a scandal.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's straight out of a movie.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So I, I tip my cap to Mark Halpern's characterization of the gossipists here who are talking about who's losing their job and that sort of thing. I get what he's driving at, but I've been. Well, first of all, you got, and you might not know some of these names, but Brad Karp no longer chairman of a giant law firm. Like, if you're amongst the super powerful elite of America, you know what Paul Weiss is. David Ross left a job at the School of Visual Arts in New York. Larry Summers, on leave from teaching at Harvard. Ex Prince Andrew lost his title. Booted from his royal housing. Peter Mandelson lost his job as the UK Ambassador to the us the fallout continues. That's the guy we're talking about with the Brits. Might bring down the Labor Party.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, but those are such difficult, different situations. I mean, Larry Summers was getting advice on how to hit on a college girl. Not cool. But that's way different than Prince Andrew, who we know was having sex with children. Yeah. Very different things.

[Joe Getty]

So to that point, I posed the question yesterday. I would like to sit down the people who hung with Epstein after his initial conviction and then some of the other accusations and asked them why and get an honest answer. And we were speculating, well, I'm into underage girls too. Or you've got so much money flowing to you, you're such a powerful networker, I want to stay on your good side or, or whatever. And the answer to those questions is coming out at least partly. And this is more about human beings and the nature of power and money in the elite. Because I always, I just want to understand this stuff so I'm not being played for a sucker. But since Epstein's death, and I'm going to quote a couple of writers in the Wall Street Journal now parade. Powerful people who associated with him have insisted they were ignorant of the true nature of his crimes. Many have issued carefully worded statements of regret that they knew him. But private correspondence recently made public tells a different story. Prominent people in politics, business and academia didn't just maintain ties with Epstein after his 2008 conviction for soliciting a minor for prostitution. They actively consulted, sold him, cast him as a victim, and in some cases offered advice on how to reabil, rehabilitate his image in 2019. Long after Virginia Jaffre went public with her sex trafficking allegations and newspaper investigations put a spotlight on Epstein's activities. Over the course of years and years, political activist and professor Noam Chomsky sent Epstein a message about how to handle his putrid press, counseled him to stay silent. Quote, and I already hate Noam Chomsky.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hadn't heard this. I heard reference to this yesterday by some conservative podcasters about how much they were loving Noam Chomsky. Yeah, getting drug into this. And I was, I meant to look it up.

[Joe Getty]

So he's a hero of the American left. If you're not hip to his act.

[Jack Armstrong]

Practically the hero of the American left. And so he was advising Epstein on how to rehabilitate his image after he got convicted of crimes.

[Joe Getty]

Correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nice job, Gnome.

[Joe Getty]

Quote, he's telling him to stay silent. What the vultures dearly want is a public response, which then provides a public opening for an onslaught of venomous attacks, many from just publicity seekers or cranks of all sorts. That's particularly true now with the hysteria that's developed about abuse of women, which has reached the point that even questioning a charge is a crime worse than murder. Five months later, he was arrested on federal sex trafficking charges.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Noam Chomsky, like, does he not believe Epstein did it and, like, got railroaded or what?

[Joe Getty]

Victim of hysteria. There's more. Months after the 06 arrest in Palm Beach, Stanley Pottinger emailed. He was a New York attorney and former Assistant Attorney General for civil rights under Nixon and Ford. Quote, it's been a while since we've seen each other, but reading about the excesses of the Palm beach cops, I had to drop you a line of support. The small minded of the world don't like thinkers and doers, especially when they succeed. He told Epstein the situation would pass, and he looked forward to, quote, hearing the funny side of this thing. Weirdly, Pottinger went on to represent victims against Epstein. He croaked a couple of years back in 08. Steven Costlyn, then head of Harvard's psychology department, Harvard, whose research had received $200,000 in donations from Epstein over the course of the 90s and early 2000s, wished him well on his birthday. May the coming year be infinitely better than the previous one. Epstein replied, thanks, but not a very high hurdle. At least he kept his sense of humor. By June, when Coslin wrote to update him about a new job, Epstein replied that, unfortunately, jail starts Monday. Others show. Other emails show Coslin later working with Epstein on drafting scripts for Reporters to help restore Epstein's public image. Now Peter Mandelson, one of the most important and powerful men in Britain, then serving as European commissioner for trade, wrote to Epstein in June of 08. I think the world of you and feel hopeless and furious about what has happened. He told the convicted sex offender, it just could not happen in Britain.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Which is interesting because that was right around the British establishment was starting to cover up for the Muslim rape gangs in northern England and suppressing those charges because they were inconvenient.

[Jack Armstrong]

So a very.

[Joe Getty]

He urged Epstein to be incredibly resilient and fight for your early release. Your friends stay with you and love you.

[Jack Armstrong]

So are you saying, dude, as one of the highest ranking officials in all of England, Britain government, that in our country, powerful men get to have sex with underage women and not end up in jail?

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. What the hell.

[Joe Getty]

People with the favor of the government who we don't want to offend. There's more. Summer of 08, Epstein began serving his sentence at the Palm beach county stockade. In June, Jess Staley, head of JP Morgan Chase's private bank, wrote, I hope you are hanging in there. Epstein replied the next day with career advice. By September, Staley wrote, I miss you. I hope you keep the island. We all may need to live there.

[Jack Armstrong]

I am baffled by this. Yeah, man. His tentacles are amazing. The different parts of the world he reaches into and how high a level of friends he has, it's just stunning.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's the interesting part. To me, the Prince Andrew stuff, as you might guess, is, well. But what's the. Why.

[Jack Armstrong]

It can't all be sex, can it?

[Joe Getty]

No, as I said, it's. It's sex. Access to enormous amounts of money, an incredible network, charming guy, and. And there is among those folks an attitude that. Listen, the little people don't understand our lives and our lifestyles. Those girls were lucky to get a taste of it. They were there of their own free will. This is all ridiculous. They're untouchable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's a horrifying way to put it.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Wow. Here's a woman owner of a model agency. I know you don't believe this, but I really do love you like a brother and feel so sad this is happening. She advised Epstein to lay low and very quiet and disparage those who had distanced themselves from him. You know, you should know who your friends are. The rest are pieces of crap. She also said he should find a charitable project project to generate positive press. Though she cautioned, quote, not yet, because you are still a target for the press and not many big institutions will take your money at this moment, but in time.

[Jack Armstrong]

But he's not the only rich guy in the world. How would, how would he have this much sway over so many people? He. There has, there's. I feel like there's a missing something. Now a friend of mine who has worked in the federal government for many, many years has many, many, many connections. The other day he told me, he said this guy was an Israeli asset. He said, I just really believe it. I have no idea.

[Joe Getty]

And all these people's brain, people stayed friends with them because I still don't quite understand.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

What does that have to do with being an alleged Israeli asset?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Well, like when Mark Halperin writes pay attention to information about who Epstein worked for. That's, that's Halperin having. He's hearing things from people but it's not solid enough to like say out loud what does that mean? Who he worked for? The Israelis or I mean who is Epstein working for?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't know. There are so many examples. I've got a bunch more I didn't get to that are they boil down to the allure of the super rich and famous and their lifestyles. People don't want to give that up. I've seen it in person on a guy who's a fraction of Epstein. People depending on they based themselves they threw themselves at this guy's feet. From the first moment I observed it, it disgusted me. And this guy, please compare to Epstein, he was nothing but he had a lifestyle and a plane and blah blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Blah and just you're in that tier and you really the worst thing that you could possibly imagine in the world is dropping out of that tier. Any thoughts on this text line 415295 KFTC Armstrong and Getty the NFL honors just wrapped up in San Francisco. LA Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford was named this year's most valuable player. He accepted the award alongside his four daughters who all clearly wore matching outfits.

[Tony Decouple]

Stafford has been in the league for.

[Jack Armstrong]

17 years and this is the first time he's won the MVP award. Cowan's the MVP of the entire NFL. He's 36 or something like that. Been playing forever. One of the closest votes ever. Just barely beating out Drake May, the quarterback for the Patriots. But Stafford, quarterback for the LA Rams. If you didn't see the picture, it was mentioned there he's on stage with his four little girls. It was cuter than heck. Just cuter as heck. All four of his little daughters dressed the same. They look boy.

[Joe Getty]

The headline to me is Matt Stafford's been in the NFL for 16 years. What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Super Bowl.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I'm sorry. Real quick. Coming up, I didn't get to Richard Branson and Steve Bannon's continuing conversations and correspondence with Jeffrey Epstein and the lifestyles of the rich and famous. Stay with us.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this prop bet stuff, which often turns into a fair amount of money with all the gambling scandals we've had sports wise in the last year, how are you not going to end up with somebody like Charlie Puth is doing the national anthem. The over under is 119 and a half seconds and it talking here about how, you know, how long you hold the final brave. Yeah, I mean how would you not have a family member throw some money down on the over under and you're looking at the clock. Okay, I made it just to hold out the brave. I mean it's one person. And how are you going to claim that they did it on purpose or.

[Joe Getty]

The easy thing have them bet the under and sing it fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. The crying prop. Will any player Coach Bean shown with visible tears during the anthem. Cameras focusing on first time super bowl starters. For instance, there's the coin toss. The ultimate 5050 bet. But here's an interesting thing. The winner of the coin tossed has lost eight of the last 10 Super Bowls. Oh, what will the first song for Bad Bunny be? The betting odds are it will be Titi Pragunto, which is, I think, ask.

[Joe Getty]

For it by name.

[Jack Armstrong]

Spanish for tell me you're not pregnant or something. I don't know, wardrobe malfunction. I don't want to see bad bunnies nipple. There was one more. I wanted to hit this kind of funny. Oh, a bet that the game will end with a score that has never happened to be 4 in NFL history. Like 21 to 5 or 31 to 11?

[Joe Getty]

Boy, that's a long shot.

[Jack Armstrong]

The MVP speech. What will be the first person thanked? God, a teammate, your mom and dad, or a coach? God is almost always the favorite. There you go.

[Joe Getty]

31 to 11.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm looking for a scandal with the national anthem and the home of the brave. Oh, man, I almost right out of time. Gotta really cut it off here. We got more coming up in hour three. Hope you can join us if you miss it.

[Joe Getty]

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