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Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
These trucks here are bypassing the Straits of Hormuz.
Jack Armstrong
The Straits of Hormuz closed for oil getting out of the Gulf, closed for
Joe Getty
goods that would normally be coming in. And right now these convoys coming out of Saudi Arabia going into Kuwait, they're bringing in food, they're bringing in medical supplies. So this lifeline here that the Saudis say is passing about 900 trucks a
Jack Armstrong
day, 9,000 trucks gone through from Saudi to Kuwait they say since the war began, is absolutely vital.
Joe Getty
Starting to transport stuff by truck because the Strait of Hormuz is closed. That has emerged as like the pivot point of the war. It would seem we either can get that thing open or we can't.
Jack Armstrong
Let's discuss the situation with military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, greetings. How are you?
Mike Lyons
Hey guys, great to be back.
Jack Armstrong
So, good news. Due to your command experience, your vast knowledge of military history, politics, the rest of it, I, President Joe Getty have appointed you the the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And I am tasking you with getting the Strait of Hormuz open and keeping it open. What's it going to take?
Mike Lyons
Well, we started last night, actually. The 5,000 pound bombs that we started to put in there started this kind of coastal expansion of the military footprint on the straits because three fundamental areas where the straits are threatened. First is that close battle in there, Right. The rockets and the weapons that Iran has close to the straits itself are not interceptible. So that's the greatest threat from any ship that's trying to get through there. So the first thing has to be cleaned up is 10 to 15 miles inside of that area there. The second aspect would be the ballistic missile threat, but we've got much more capability of intercepting those missiles. It's also getting difficult for Iran to hit ships now because of GPS jamming and all the like that's there. And then that third aspect is the maritime portion of it of protecting what's coming from the sea. Now we've done a pretty good job with their navy and they have small jet skis. I'm not one that thinks mines are a threat because Iran still needs to get crude out of the Straits into China as China's energy security is very threatened right now. And so mines don't know who enemy and who friendly is. So I don't think that mines are necessarily a thing. But again, that's out there. But if you take those three things all at once, we've started the process of clearing out the immediate geography that's closest to the Straits. And I think we're going to continue to pound away at that, to take away that ability because that's again, those rockets are uninterceptible. You won't be able to knock them out.
Joe Getty
I would love to be able to sit on a couch and flip through cable news channels with you sometimes because I'll bet you hear all kinds of things from people that make your brain explode, of people commenting on a lot of military stuff who have no military background or sometimes have military background but say wacky things. But I did hear this one the other day. A couple people have said this, that there's no opening the Strait of Hormuz without Iran agreeing to it because all it takes is a couple of dudes on a boat with a bomb to get to a ship that's gonna keep the ships too concerned to try to go through there. Do you see it that way or not?
Mike Lyons
Well, there's a psychological impact as well that's possible, I guess on a very small scale level. And again, it's that one off that's same thing that could happen in a US City. It's the lone wolf attack that takes place. So it's a psychological effect. But having talked to my son who's actually been through that part of the world and I've asked him what's it like there? He says it's the most highly trafficked area in the world. It's incredible. It's so busy and everybody knows what's kind of going on. It would be virtually a suicide mission to do that, which they would do, obviously. But it's a psychological thing and that is insurance has to pay for it, which the Trump administration has stepped up. But then also making sure the crew is safe, the fields are going to be safe. They're not going to lose the crew going through it. But let's also be clear about a couple things. Two things. Number one, the world should be outraged at Iran that they let this, the Iranians control this and it's their own fault. And part of the reason why the United States doesn't care is because of what's happened in the past 30 years and we've become energy independent. If this was 30 years ago, we'd be a lot more concerned as a lot more that oil is coming to our shores. But right now we really don't care and the rest of the world should care.
Joe Getty
No kidding.
Mike Lyons
And the rest of the world's going, yeah, the rest of world is going to learn that what The Saudis learned 30 years ago as well start building pipelines going in the other direction, going to the Red Sea. They've got about 7 million barrels going daily to that in that direction. And Oman's going to learn this lesson the hard way and so will Qatar and they're going to cut the strait off and they're going to make it irrelevant. And I think that's the lesson that's going to come out. This will be the last time the Iranians are going to threaten the world when it comes to controlling the straits.
Joe Getty
I think that's an interesting point because Japan yesterday said out loud that they're not willing to help us with our war on this. 90% of their oil comes through there.
Mike Lyons
Yeah. And again, most of that oil goes to the East. India, they're allies obviously in some places. ChinaChina's energy security is so threatened right now, I don't know how they're staying. Not sleeping at night. It is just incredible the amount what the United States has now controlled, especially if we decide to take those marines and occupy the Kharg island or if we decided to blow up their refineries and destroy them. This is war. If we're going to that we keep forgetting we're at the spot where people don't think that we're capable of that. I think Trump is capable and willing to do anything. Now go back to also why we're not getting support from NATO and he's helped and that's because nobody still year in. And knowing Donald Trump, no one speaks his language, I mean, to get Donald Trump, to get him. Make a deal with him, Right. If you're the Brits, tell him take our tariffs off and we'll send you destroyers and cruisers. He'll do that in 10 seconds. He's trying to. He's communicating to them, and they're not hearing them. But the problem is he's a business guy communicating to politicians that are worried about a political solution, so.
Jack Armstrong
And he's also a New York City developer who abuses the crap out of people, but they keep working with him in a way that, you know, a French diplomat won't. One final note on the Japan thing, I find myself wondering whether they've calculated that, look, Iran's letting their friends through, and maybe if we make friendly noises, they'll let us get our 90% of oil that we're desperate for anyway. But back to military matters. Mike, I'm curious. Let's go to, you know, 30,000. With so much of Iran's civilian, quote, unquote, command structure decimated and a fair amount of its military command structure, too, what do you think it looks like on, I don't know, like the battalion level or even the unit level in the military of the Republican Guard right now?
Mike Lyons
Well, very much degraded and as deconsolidated as they have with their orders. You know, they're just running out of quarterbacks, right? I mean, at some point, you know, you're out of backup quarterbacks and you're out of them. And the best now, besides taking out Lajani, the guy that was kind of running, he was maybe the moderate that they were going to negotiate with. And he proved that not to be true. And the Israelis said, okay, enough's enough. We're going to take him out. They took out the commander of the Basij, which is that civilian army volunteer group. Now, that could be the tipping point if that army decides not to turn against the Iranian people. That was the army that was going after the protesters. And we've given the Iranians this capability now to call for fire and to let the Iranians tell us where in Israel in particular, where key individual targets are. And they're going to continue to do that and take them down. But where are they right now? You know, we're still in search for the real moderates that might exist in Iran that stand up and say, enough's enough and we'll become regime compliant and we'll do what the United States and Israel want. We're just not there yet. I'm for continuing this process again this is how Israel, that's how they play. This is what they do. And eventually we'll find somebody that'll say that.
Joe Getty
So we've been talking a lot about the timetable that, you know, the cable news world expects. I mean, neither Joe and I are have military backgrounds. But it just strikes us as crazy that people say things like, it's been 13 days. Why haven't we this or that? I mean, if the whole war lasted six months, in retrospect, you would think it was short.
Mike Lyons
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's kind of like, you know, after the Battle of Midway, we're mad because the carrier got sunk and we're going to, you know, demand that we take the Philippines back. I mean, we've got to have strategic patience in what we're doing. Desert Storm, we were six, you know, six, seven weeks or so, just under seven weeks with air attacks. This is a situation where, you know, the air battle continues to do what it's supposed to do. Taking away their military capability, taking away from the sea their nuclear capability. The IDF came out yesterday and said all their missile factories have been destroyed. Well, let's watch China and see. Are they going to start sending Shahid drones? Are they going to start sending missile parts into Iran? And I'm curious to see how they're going to get there. They're not getting there through the straits again. So that's why, again, those mines don't work. Because if these countries think they're going to have a deal with the Iranians about getting their stuff in and out of there, they're not going to be able to program the mines to attack just certain kinds of ships.
Jack Armstrong
Military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, thanks so much. Fascinating stuff. Appreciate the time.
Mike Lyons
Great, guys. Thanks for having me.
Jack Armstrong
Thanks. That is quick. I was just going to say it's on pretty good authority that Russia is helping Iran with their targeting of our troops and equipment.
Joe Getty
Russia and China helping in a variety of ways. At what point does that cross a line into, you know, holy Crapville.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And speaking of holy crapville, just as somebody has been, a couple of guys have been looking at this region for decades and decades world. In other words, the fact that the. All the heads of the Gulf states are on the line to BB Netanyahu saying, bb, finish the job. Keep killing them. Kill them till they're dead. I mean, get rid of the entire regime, would you? Okay, thanks. Click. I mean, it's just amazing.
Joe Getty
Yeah. So his point of. Well, the trouble with mines is they can't differentiate between the Iranian ships Going out and the, you know, ships shipping oil that benefit the Western world going out makes sense. On the other hand, I wish I'd ask him at the time because it didn't occur to me until right now. Iran did have. They were trying to mine the strait. It would seem we sank a whole bunch of their boats. Seemed to be their plan at the time.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, true. There are various factions at work in Iran, though, so who knows who's making these decisions. Whoever they are, they'll not have a head tomorrow.
Joe Getty
Yeah. The whole tipping point timeline thing, I think is huge. I gotta believe, again, I have no expertise in this, but I gotta believe. You keep taking out all the leadership, you keep degrading their ability to fight, at some point it just collapses.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And when that moment comes is anybody's guess.
Joe Getty
There are reports that, you know, inside the Trump White House, or Netanyahu's. Whatever do they call his. What do they call his.
Jack Armstrong
Where he lives?
Joe Getty
Israel? No, the White House. What's the White House? Where.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, oh, is there one?
Joe Getty
I don't know any. Anyway, inside. Wherever Netanyahu has his conversation, they're all surprised it hasn't collapsed already, but, God, it could happen at any moment, I would think. I mean, that's gotta be just crazy chaos within the whole. I wonder if they can even talk to each other because we would pick up the. The messages.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Are they just, like, hearing news of. Did you hear, you know, Abdul over there blew up something? Okay. What was the point there, you know, whatever.
Jack Armstrong
Seriously? Yeah. Muhammad needs to know. Run over there and tell them. For God's sake, don't pick up a phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
We were talking about that yesterday. Somebody in the intel world explaining how that new weird beard junior, the gay Ayatollah, can't. He can't do anything. He can't talk on a phone. He can't be near a television. He can't do any. He can't be above ground. He can't be below ground.
Jack Armstrong
If he has a smart toaster, he's got to eat his bread cold. The Gay of Tola.
Joe Getty
I think I'm happy for Venezuela winning the World Baseball Classic. Does that make me a bad American?
Jack Armstrong
Yes, but many things make you a bad American.
Joe Getty
Talk about that among other things on the way. Stay here.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
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on all counts in the murder trial of Utah mother Corey Richens, charged with killing her husband Eric by poisoning him with fentanyl. The case making national headlines when Richards was arrested for her husband's murder. After writing a children's book about grief, prosecutors said that Richards slipped five times the lethal dose of fentanyl into a cocktail that she made for her husband. They said Richards killed her husband for money while planning to start a new life with a new man.
Joe Getty
Gonna make a movie out of that. We we. I remember following this story a long time ago. Why did it take so long to work its way through the justice system? But what a. A tail.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah.
Joe Getty
Her husband dies, she got little kids. You know what? I write a children's book about how to deal with grief. Daddy's gone. And how we're gonna pull together as a family.
Jack Armstrong
She killed him, right?
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Jack Armstrong
She had huge debts to like 40 different creditors and. And a man on the side. It's kind of an old.
Joe Getty
Oh, I didn't know she had a dude on the side also. Fentanyl. Him, right? Is that what they said?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, exactly. Huge overdose of fen. A sandwich. Tried to. Tried to, you know, use their womanly wilds, but make him a nice ham sandwich, which is the cruelest betrayal.
Joe Getty
On the other hand, anything but the sandwich. She had tried it before and not gotten the dose heavy enough. And he just got sick, right?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. Actually, I think she used a different drug the first time, but it doesn't matter. On the other hand, she might have written a really good book about children and grief. She's not discredited as an expert. Speaking of which,
Joe Getty
for the kids, when they find out, oh, mom killed dad and then pretended to get all helpful, got all the glory going around to the Today show and getting all the public Exposure as the woman who overcame grief when her husband unexpectedly died of a fentanyl laced sandwich.
Jack Armstrong
You young fellas listening? She's hot. She's really hot. But she's a shallow narcissist. Listen to your brain. Okay, run the other way. Run. Run.
Joe Getty
From what I understand, shallow narcissist is a really hard thing to spot.
Jack Armstrong
Mmm, yeah. Look for the clues. Anyway, yeah, narcissists are good at one thing. Convincing you they're not a narcissist for one thing. So it's funny you referenced not being an expert in something last segment. And I'm not one of those people who knee jerk rejects all, you know, expert or learned people or whatever because a lot of them have taught me a lot of things but especially when it comes to like politics and government and that sort of thing. I've found through my life that a lot of the so called experts, their main goal is to prove that their pet theories are correct.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I would flip.
Jack Armstrong
They're not truth seekers, they're status seekers.
Joe Getty
I would flip what you said because I am this. I don't automatically respect all experts.
Jack Armstrong
Fair enough. Yeah, indeed. They're always trying to cram, you know, events into their little framework that they've described in their textbook or whatever. Second thing in a weirdly similar topic is there's a great piece, I think it was the free Press. No, it wasn't. Somebody else had. Science has a serious fraud problem right now.
Joe Getty
Oh, I want to hear about that.
Jack Armstrong
Study after study after study is being discredited.
Joe Getty
Yeah, the replication problem.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, just nuts. And let's see, there was one more weirdly strung together thought I've. But it flipped. Slipped out of my head. I'll tell you this instead. The randy man, Rand Paul, he of the curly head and giant intellect got into it with Mark Wayne Mullen, he of the common man, good sense and thick biceps. In the confirmation hearing whether Mark Wayne can become the secretary of Department of Homeland Security.
Joe Getty
Security.
Jack Armstrong
So we'll bring you those punchy highlights coming up.
Joe Getty
More important hearing going on just started the worldwide threats hearing that the Senate is looking into. And there's a lot of them,
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
You left your prosthetic leg behind on the plane.
Jack Armstrong
I'm very absent minded. You'd have to be. You're absent legged.
Joe Getty
I have very good news. The WNBA and the players union have reached a verbal agreement. It looks like there will not be a work stoppage for the WNBA season.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. I thought I found the depths of my don't care when we were discussing the Oscars. Apparently there are deeper depths.
Joe Getty
Why? Did you see the ratings came out 17 million. Yes. For the Oscars.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. I did. But the, the description ought to include all sorts of online impressions and viral moments and that sort of thing. I mean, I'm all for kicking the Oscars. I'll kick them with both feet.
Joe Getty
But I don't know, I feel like
Jack Armstrong
it also is an interesting illustration of the current media environment. Yeah.
Joe Getty
But I feel like this is the kind of show that you tend to watch live if you're into it because you want to, you know, you want to see the big moment live, like kind of like sports. And 17 million is a really low number. And as recently I looked it up last night. As recently as like 15 years ago they were still getting 40 million people for that. That's how much they Hollywood has turned us off with their stupid, stupid political comments.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Let's talk about it more next hour. Hour three of the Armstrong and Getty Show. Also coming up, there is a worldwide threat hearing going on right now being presided over by Tulsi Gabbard, the DNI and the mentor and buddy of the recently resigned Joe Kent who made all those headlines yesterday by resigning in is a crank in a crackpot.
Joe Getty
So is Tulsi Gabbard who's speaking right now being Grilled by various senators. Well, she's making her opening statement. These are serious times.
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This. This war in the Middle east is a big dang deal, and I can't believe Tulsi Gabbard has any role in it.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of cranks and crackpots, I hope we can squeeze this in at some point today. Paul Ehrlich, the author. And what was he, an economist or something? Who. I mean, formally speaking, who died? The population bomb guy. He was way more than wrong. He was wrong about everything. He was a jackass. He was evil. And the fact that anybody held him in any esteem whatsoever is a measure of what a dope they are. So stay with us.
Joe Getty
He was on the Tonight Show 20 times back in the day because everybody was scared about the population explosion.
Jack Armstrong
That is weird and wacky stuff anyway, but I see a future where people
Joe Getty
don't even date, let alone have babies. Yeah, no kidding.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I'll always, mate.
Joe Getty
Sir. Online porn, sir. Oh.
Jack Armstrong
So ends our Tonight show reminiscence. Meanwhile, in the Senate, they're holding hearings to determine whether Mark Wayne Mullen should be anointed as the new secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, as Ice Barbie has left that post. And we're big fans of Mark Wayne Mullen around here. He is a common sense, smart, patriotic guy. He's also got a bit of a mouth on him.
Joe Getty
Willing to fight you.
Jack Armstrong
He is, Absolutely. And he would win that fight quickly.
Joe Getty
But my favorite part of that video, we played the audio a million times where him and that Teamster guy were almost gonna fight there.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, right in that hearing.
Joe Getty
Yes. I mean, they were the two tough guys. Challenging. And they. And Mark, wait. When he stands up, he said, right now. Let's do it right now. He gets up and he starts to take off his watch, which I've seen guys do before. He was actually willing. I gotta take my watch off because we're about to fight. What?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I know, I know. Anyway, so he's. He said some unkind things about the randy man. Senator Rand Paul, libertarian hero.
Joe Getty
And.
Jack Armstrong
And here's Rand finally with a chance to call him out on it. 100. Michael.
Rand Paul
He told the media that I was a freaking snake and that you completely understood why I'd been assaulted. Oh, I was shocked that it would justify and celebrate this violent assault that caused me so much pain in my family. So much pain. I just wonder if someone who applauds violence against their political opponents is the right person to lead an agency that has struggled to accept limits to the proper use of force. You might argue you were mad and upset about being confronted by your constituents. Senator Mullen, your constituents are justifiably upset with you. By now, most of America knows that the Somali welfare fraud in Minnesota stole over $9 billion. But instead of defending your vote, you took to continue the vote to continue these refugee welfare programs. You chose to lash out at me. You went on to brag that you'd already told me to my face that you completely understood and approved of the assault. Well, that's a lie. You got a chance today. You can either continue to lie or you can correct the record. You have never had the courage to look me in the eye and tell me that the assault was justified. So today you'll have your chance. Today I'll give you that chance to clear the record. Tell it to my face. If that's what you believe, tell it to me today. Tell the world why you believe I deserve to be assaulted from behind, have six ribs broken and a damaged lung. Tell me to my face why you think I deserve to be. And while you're at it, explain to the American public why they should trust a man with anger issues to set the proper example for ICE and Border Patrol agents.
Jack Armstrong
Hansen told us just before we jumped on the segment that he. He was moving quickly and hadn't gotten Mark Wayne Mullen's answer. Can we make that a high priority, please?
Joe Getty
We need to hear. How do you respond to that? Well, I. I know how I'd respond if I was, you know, if I was going to be completely honest. It's not the way I would respond if I was him in that situation. We live in a different era now. I don't know if you've been following things since 2015, but people say stuff like that all the time. That's the way you cut through and get lots of attention on Twitter. So that's why I said it. Yeah, you just say things. You just say things like, no wonder he got attacked by his neighbor. That's the sort of thing you say now. I'm not happy about it, but it's true.
Jack Armstrong
Okay. So my understanding is this was a different conversation the next clip and was not the answer to that, but which we will get for next segment if we possibly can.
Joe Getty
Rand Paul. Rand Paul's trying to drag us back to pre2015. And I understand why.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. But I would. I would set off a nuclear device to drag us back to 2015 if I could, in a way. All right, go ahead, Next club.
Mark Wayne Mullen
My goal in six months is that we're not in the lead story every single day, but we have to get DHS funded. So I pray, seriously, I pray that we can get past this, that once this hearing is over and once we go through this process, I get it, I get some of. It's got to be political theater. I understand it. I've had to really pray about my attitude. But I will say once it's over, I hope we can work together and get them funded. So when I walk in, if I'm fortunate enough to be confirmed, if I walk in as secretary, that these guys are ready to go to work day one.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, that's just about the funding thing.
Joe Getty
Getting back to Rand. He is clearly was personally bothered as I would be too. Somebody attacked me and practically killed me. And you, you thought that was you. You claimed that was a good thing. But again, to where we are with politics. We're, we're, we're at a time where you say about John McCain, I prefer people don't get captured or Nancy Pelosi tears up the script for the State of the Union address because she's so disgusted. Or I had another example in my head. That is a good one. Da, da da da da da da da. Anyway, as Democrats, you can cheer on people, people who want to attack Justice Kavanaugh at his home.
Jack Armstrong
I mean, that's, that's, that's a whirlwind.
Joe Getty
Kavanaugh, I don't, I don't like this. But it is where we are.
Jack Armstrong
Label this section of the podcast. Jack defends the indefensible. This is an interesting exchange with Senator Gary Peters.
Joe Getty
You, sir, you called Alex Preddy, quote,
Mark Wayne Mullen
a deranged individual that came in to cause max damage. Could we expect those kinds of quick responses? If you are confirmed as secretary, would you be?
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Jack Armstrong
Well, you, you did.
Mark Wayne Mullen
You responded as Secretary Noem.
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Mark Wayne Mullen
same behavior all over again? No. Senator, I have a deep amount of respect for you. We've had our differences, but I do respect you. I think I said this privately when we had a conversation. Those words probably should have been retracted. I shouldn't have said that. And Secretary, I wouldn't. The investigation is ongoing and there is, like I said, there's sometimes going to make mistake and I own it. That one. I went out there too fast. I was responding immediately without the facts. That's my fault. That won't happen as secretary.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that's the way adults talk. That's great. We have the Rand Paul. I'm sorry, the Mark Wayne Mullen response to Rand Paul's screed. I got to take a deep breath. Here it comes.
Mark Wayne Mullen
I think before I can start my opening statement, I have to address the remarks the chairman made calling me a liar. Sir, I think there's. Everybody in this room knows that I'm very blunt and direct to the point. And if I have something to say, I'll say it directly to your face. If you recall, back in your Back in my house days, we actually did have this conversation because remarks that I've made. You were in a room. I simply addressed that. I said I could understand because of the behavior you were having. Having. But I can understand why your neighbor, by the neighbor, did what he did.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Mark Wayne Mullen
As far as my terms is snake in the grass, Sir. I work around this room to try to fix problems. I've worked with many people in this room. Seems like you fight Republicans more than you work with us. I did address those remarks. I did explain your gimmicks by the amendment you put forth. And as far as me saying that I invoke violence, I don't. I don't think anybody should be hit by surprise. I don't like that.
Mike Lyons
That.
Mark Wayne Mullen
But if I do have something to say, everybody in this room knows. I'll come straight to you. I'll say it publicly and I'll say it privately, but I'll never say it behind your back.
Joe Getty
That's a heck of a thing. That's a heck of a thing. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
So he stands by the freaking snake in the grass. Okay.
Joe Getty
And more or less by. I can understand why your neighbor attacked you, too.
Jack Armstrong
Yes. Although certainly blindsiding you. He should have tapped you on the shoulder, turned you around and said, let's go in. Mark Wayne Mullen. I'd love to do it right now.
Mark Wayne Mullen
Well, stand your butt up then. You stand your butt up.
Joe Getty
See, I'm a Mar Mullen fan, but that is a classic I'm a big guy and I always win every fight sort of attitude. Yeah. The other example I was thinking of, of where we are, Joe Biden with minor election changes saying, this is Jim Crow on steroids. That sort of crap. I mean, if you're gonna say that sort of crap, everything's on the table
Jack Armstrong
still way up there in the worst things ever said by an American president.
Joe Getty
Kidding.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Mark Wayne Mullen
This makes Jim Crow look like Jim Eagle.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that was one of the most incoherent things ever said by an American president. And Joe Biden, frankly, is the George washing and of incoherence.
Joe Getty
So claiming that going back to the election laws of pre Covid is the same as hanging young black people who want to register to vote.
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Joe Getty
That's not crazier or more out of bounds than I'm. I can understand why your neighbor tackled you.
Jack Armstrong
Not even close.
Joe Getty
I know. That's what I'm saying. We're in a. We're in a different era. That's not a good excuse. And I don't. I don't like that we're in this era. But people say crazy stuff, including president all the time now.
Jack Armstrong
Michael, rename this segment of the podcast Jack drops 5000 pound truth bomb.
Mike Lyons
Done.
Jack Armstrong
Now we're done.
Joe Getty
Oh my God. I'll never get over that. That is one of the worst things any president's ever said.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to blindside him and break his ribs for it, but he's a piece of crap.
Joe Getty
What was it? Lawn clippings? Was that the point of contention?
Jack Armstrong
It's lawn maintenance in general.
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Jack Armstrong
Which makes us all angry. Looting, leaves sticks and other detritus.
Joe Getty
Whatever happened to that guy? Did he end up in jail?
Jack Armstrong
Jailed? Yeah. Oh yeah. Felonious assault.
Joe Getty
You're a lunatic to do that.
Jack Armstrong
Well, he is a lunatic. Yeah, he's an angry lunatic. Wow.
Joe Getty
Watch out for angry.
Jack Armstrong
Paul is a snake in the unmode. Grass was apparently the issue
Joe Getty
we lost to Venezuela in the World Baseball Classic. Among other things to talk about. Stay tuned.
Jack Armstrong
This is a hearing and God knows
Mike Lyons
the American people have enough of contempt for Congress. Let's not.
Mark Wayne Mullen
I don't like drugs and I don't
Joe Getty
like you because you described yourself.
Jack Armstrong
Hold it. Armstrong and Gettysburg.
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Joe Getty
Phoenix Lamar the best in baseball.
Jack Armstrong
Is that the greatest moment of your baseball career, what you were able to do on the mound tonight. I mean, I'll tell you what, like, I win the World Series a couple years ago, and there's nothing that I can compare with this, you know, like, this is the greatest moment I ever got on the mound. Pitching. Pitching like that in front of almost like our home crowd, you know, like
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Jack Armstrong
And I know our country back then was. Everybody was there too, you know, So I can't compare this moment to not to be on the mountain like that. And how the whole crowd like on us all the time is just something that I can. I can't even tell you how I feel right now.
Joe Getty
So this is going to be a little sportsy, but I thought that was interesting. So Venezuela beats the United States in the World Baseball Classic. You just heard that crowd there, mostly Venezuelans cheering on their team.
Jack Armstrong
South. South Florida Stadium. Yeah. It was a home game for Venezuela.
Joe Getty
And a lot of players saying, this is a bigger deal than the World Series. More important to me than winning the World Series. And Derek Jeter, who won a bunch of World Series with the New York Yankees last night said, this is ridiculous. People who are saying that have never won a World Series. Nobody at the end of your career says, how many world baseball classics did you win? That's how many World Series you win. That's for you as an American. I guarantee you, you grew up in Venezuela, pretty small country, and you know all the other guys on your team because you were all the standout players and prospects and you probably play on all star teams together and all kinds of different stuff. You demonstrating to the world that you're better baseball players than the Americans. I guarantee you that's a bigger deal to them than winning a World Series with some random town they play for.
Jack Armstrong
Especially as beleaguered as Venezuela's been over recent decades because of socialism slash communism, dictatorship.
Mark Wayne Mullen
They.
Jack Armstrong
I was reading about how the Venezuelan diaspora around the world because millions of people have fled the socialism in Venezuela. Many millions of people. So they're all over the place. Place. But the impression I got was this is like their miracle on ice.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Little kids who watched that game last night will remember when they're old.
Joe Getty
That's awesome for them. What the hell.
Jack Armstrong
They need a break.
Joe Getty
And it does nothing for Aaron Judge. I mean, he's. He'll be fine no matter what.
Jack Armstrong
No. Yeah. And that Derek Jeter quote was. It's quite accurate. And that is honestly how he feels. That's not the way they do right feel right. Right. Coming up. Anyway, Owen 2 coming up. He's a saint on the left. Or was Cesar Chavez and our left coast listeners especially he is a saint of the left is being absolutely desantified and the why is serious. So they're gonna take specific allegations are out.
Joe Getty
Might take Cesar Chavez's name off middle
Jack Armstrong
schools and stuff by the end of the day.
Joe Getty
Oh wow. God, I can't wait to hear this. I don't know the details. So the, the, the here's. Oh, we only have a minute. I'll have to tell you later. An hour too. I just came across some writing about Joe Kent. So he's the guy that ran the counterterrorism center that resigned yesterday about the war and how immediately the White House team went into we got to destroy this guy online mode. Got all the oppo research out so fast that it really didn't turn out to be the story of the day that I thought it would be. They just buried the guy in a flurry of this is a nut job.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
And did a good job of that. And that guy's. And he's the joke Kennedy, what's his name? He's going to be on Tucker today. He's going to be on Tucker today and that's going to be huge for a certain audience. But I want to talk a little bit more about that. But this Caesar Chavez thing. Caesar Chavez day is coming up. Up and it's getting canceled.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Wow. Okay. Details in hour three. If you miss it at the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
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Episode: “Online Porn, Sir! Heyyyyyohhhh!”
Date: March 18, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
This episode features Armstrong and Getty’s signature blend of news analysis, sharp commentary, and quippy banter. Main topics include the latest military developments in the Middle East, particularly the strategic crisis at the Strait of Hormuz and Iran’s regional maneuvers, as well as inside-baseball political drama in Washington, D.C. There’s a lengthy, in-depth interview with military analyst Mike Lyons, a breakdown of recent Senate confirmation hearings centered around Markwayne Mullin, and lighter moments reflecting on pop culture and sports—including the World Baseball Classic. The show’s conversational tone is informed, irreverent, and at times, outright brash.
Guest: Mike Lyons – Military Analyst
Timestamps: 04:00 – 13:30
Trucking Through the Gulf:
Joe and Jack kick off with the Middle East conflict’s impact on logistics, noting that due to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, supply convoys (food, medical supplies) now bypass via land routes between Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.
Mike Lyons’ Take:
The Importance of Global Energy Flows:
Pipeline Politics:
Lyons foresees Middle Eastern states investing in pipelines that bypass the Strait, making Iran’s stranglehold less relevant in the future.
Timestamps: 09:00 – 16:00
Japan’s Reluctance:
Jack and Joe puzzle over Japan’s hesitance to assist, noting their dependence on oil through the strait but suggesting Tokyo may be hedging, hoping for Iranian leniency.
Iran’s Internal State:
Lyons portrays the Republican Guard as depleted and out of experienced leaders, referencing Israeli operations targeting both military and paramilitary (Basij) commanders.
Regime Stability & U.S./Allied Tactics:
Strategic Patience in Warfare:
Lyons cautions against short-term expectations. Reference to past wars (Desert Storm, WWII) emphasizes the need for patience in evaluating progress.
Timestamps: 13:35 – 16:30
Russia & China Involvement:
Communication Breakdown & Regime Collapse:
Timestamps: 31:03 – 40:52
Background:
Rand Paul’s Statement:
Mullin’s Response:
On Political Rhetoric’s New Normal:
Timestamps: 23:41 – 24:15
Timestamps: 45:45 – 48:00
World Baseball Classic:
Oscars Ratings:
On the Strait of Hormuz & Global Oil:
On Modern Political Discourse:
On Being Blunt:
On Sports and National Identity:
The March 18, 2026 episode of Armstrong & Getty delivers deep dives into global politics—focusing on the Middle East crisis—alongside exchanges on the state of American political rhetoric and expert commentary. The combativeness evident in congressional hearings mirrors a broader cultural shift towards performative, incendiary commentary, a subject not lost on the hosts’ meta-observations. Sports, science, and pop culture all get airtime, keeping the tone both informative and playfully unpredictable throughout.
For listeners who missed it:
This episode shines with its inside perspectives on evolving global conflicts, breakdown of high-stakes political drama, and the hosts’ enduring ability to blend astute critique with humor and candor.