Peanuts & Data

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Peanuts & Data
Date: May 21, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dive into a lively discussion on current events, seamlessly transitioning from TSA's bizarre rotisserie chicken rules to the tangled politics of US-Iran relations. They critique public polling, dissect Trump’s messaging on gas prices, lampoon social media activism at a high-profile trial, and explore anxieties around AI data centers' resource use. Distinctive moments of irreverent humor and sharp political analysis anchor the episode, making this a classic Armstrong & Getty blend of wit, skepticism, and pointed cultural commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. TSA & Rotisserie Chicken: Rules that Make No Sense

• Humor about TSA food policies:
  • The hosts mock the announcement that travelers can bring unlimited rotisserie chicken on planes, contrasting it with stricter rules for other items like toothpaste.
  • "I'm no theologian, Jack, but my heaven will include all unlimited rotisserie chicken." (Joe Getty, 02:53)
  • Raises questions about security logic and American obsessions with certain convenience foods.
  • (Segment Starts: 02:30)

2. Costco: The Wonders & Woes

• Shoutout to Costco's famous $5 rotisserie chicken and underpriced hot dogs as "loss leaders."
• Personal anecdotes about shopping experiences, parking chaos, and high praise for their pharmacy and bulk food offerings.
• (Segment: 03:42–04:22)

3. The Iran Quagmire: Public Opinion, Polls, and Political Messaging

• Dissection of recent Fox News polling on US action against Iran:
  • Majority opposition (60%) to military action, even higher (70%+) negativity when asked if the conflict has been “worth it."
  • Polling criticized as shallow and misleading.
  • Analogy: Asking if a joint replacement was “worth it” immediately after surgery.
• Trump’s flippant response to gas prices (“it’s peanuts”) is critiqued as out of touch, especially without offering the public a clear rationale for sacrifice.
  • “Anytime your loved ones...have a legitimate concern about what they're going through...dismiss those concerns out of hand as stupid. See how your relationships shape up.” (Joe Getty, 06:46)
• Commentary on the lack of substantive debate about the purpose and potential outcomes of involvement in Iran.
  • “It is to call it an inch deep I think is to give it a compliment.” (Joe Getty, 14:32)
• (Extended Segment: 04:22–15:20)

4. The Media, Political Activism, and “Manginistas” at the Mangioni Trial

• Viral clips of young “activist journalists” granted press passes at the Luigi Mangioni trial are explored:
  • Audio of them hurling accusations of “mass social murder” against trial figures.
  • Discussion of their backgrounds, including radical activism, Fulbright scholarships, and provocative online personas.
  • Notable Quotes:
    • “His children are better off without him. They need to learn to not be like their dad…enjoy the blood money, kids.” (Activist, 23:18)
    • "Our government has abandoned us. We are their cattle, they siphon our life force…" (Lena Weisbrot, paraphrased by hosts from her court-steps rant, 27:15)
• Hosts point out the irony of City Journal (established media) being denied press passes while activist “fan girls” get in.
• Deeper points about radical chic: how privilege, alienation, and the search for meaning fuel revolutionary zeal—comparing the current climate to the 1960s radical left.
  • “You can convince [young people] of anything and…to do practically anything because what they're doing is righteous and they are changing the world.” (Joe Getty, 35:33)
• (Deep Dive: 22:26–35:33)

5. AI Data Centers & Water Use: A Look at Hysteria vs. Reality

• Addressing audience concerns about large AI data centers diverting massive water resources:
  • Counterpoints: Almond orchards (mostly for export) and golf courses use far more; most water in data centers is reused in a closed loop.
  • "Water doesn't go away when it gets used…it stays on planet Earth; it doesn't disappear from the earth forever." (Co-host, 39:03)
• Broader reflection on the economic and practical trade-offs of emerging technologies.
• (Segment: 37:35–41:13)

6. AI’s Promise: Access to Expertise for Billions

• Listener email prompts discussion: Rather than concentrating power with a few AI owners, today’s tools give a billion people expert-level advice.
  • Hosts offer personal anecdotes about using AI for health and auto troubleshooting—often with better or more thorough answers than actual professionals.
  • "There's never been better access to every bit of expertise that exists on the planet—in your hand, in your phone." (Co-host, 40:16)
• (Segment: 39:03–41:21)

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Memorable Quotes

• On Polling & Public Perception:
  “Polling is practically useless and so easy to mislead folks...The perfect question would involve: ‘to prevent Iran from spreading terrorism and acquiring a nuclear weapon…’”
  — Joe Getty (05:24)
• On Trump’s Gas Price Comments:
  "You're being a little too dismissive with people's money as a billionaire. That just doesn't work."
  — Co-host (06:07)
• On Viral Protesters (at trial):
  "It's the need—it's alienation and unhappiness joined with a need to live a life of purpose, and a certain number of young people get swept up in that..."
  — Joe Getty (35:33)

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Notable Timestamps

• TSA Rotisserie Chicken Segment: 02:30
• Costco Food Economics: 03:42–04:22
• Polls and The Iran War—Polling Deep Dive: 04:22–10:05
• Iran War, Trump Messaging, and Media Critique: 10:05–15:20
• Activist Journalists and the Mangioni Trial: 22:26–35:33
• Radicalism Past and Present: 33:39–35:40
• AI Data Centers & Water Hysteria: 37:35–39:03
• Empowering Individuals with AI: 39:03–41:21

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Standout Moments

• The sharp, extended analogy about ignoring root causes:
  "You're walking around with a knife stuck in your back, talking about back pain and how it’ll affect your weekend—nobody's talking about the knife.” (Co-host, 15:20)
• Disbelieving laughter at the “tarps off” shirtless-fan trend in baseball and its supposed effect on opposing players.
  (Segment: 18:08–19:33)
• Anecdotes about 1970s radical groups and now-social-media-fueled activism draw lines between generational movements.
  (Segment: 33:39–35:40)
• A listener’s reflection on AI as the great democratizer—contrasting with public anxiety about corporate control.
  (Segment: 39:03–40:52)

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Tone & Style

The episode blends quick-witted humor, skepticism toward media and political narratives, and insightful cultural commentary—true to the Armstrong & Getty style. There’s a distinctive mix of irreverence, candor, and curiosity throughout, making even the most arcane policy discussion feel punchy and relevant.

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For listeners seeking details on Iran policy debates, media controversies, or the lighter side of TSA and fandom, this episode is packed. The discussion on AI is especially relevant for anyone pondering the practical impacts of technological progress.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

broadcasting live from the abraham lincoln radio studio

[Jack Armstrong]

at the george washington broadcast center jack armstrong and joe getty armstrong and getty

[Joe Getty]

and now here's armstrong and getty

[Commercial Announcer]

the

[Joe Getty]

tsa has announced a carry on rule that allows passengers to bring unlimited rotisserie chicken on board thank god

[Activist/Protester]

that is

[Joe Getty]

so great i was getting tired of having to chug my chicken and lime

[Co-host/Commentator]

you can bring on rotisserie chicken through tsa

[Joe Getty]

i'm no theologian jack but my heaven will include all unlimited rotisserie chicken

[Co-host/Commentator]

well i'm no a terrorist but three ounce a four ounce toothpaste is just absolutely not but a rotisserie chicken couldn't possibly be something bad all right i don't worry about a terrorist attack ever really but is it the rotisserie that

[Joe Getty]

makes it so delicious that it kind of gets bathed in its own juices or do they pump it full of stuff i mean because i i got a newish grill and it's got a rotisserie i haven't used it yet sounds like that sort of deliciousness could be yeah right could go down to the grocery store and spend five dollars or whatever it is probably thirty dollars these

[Co-host/Commentator]

days well costco's is famously like eight is it five five bucks costco's rotisserie chickens is five bucks and it's fantastic it's a loss leader it's kind of

[Joe Getty]

like they're sure hot dogs i won't go to costco's unless i need a bunch of stuff i can't stand the parking lots it's too much chaos i

[Co-host/Commentator]

go there a lot because i use their pharmacy it's the best pharmacy i've ever used granted so fast so easy so so pleasant to deal with and then while i'm there i grab a pie the size of a manhole cover or a rotisserie chicken or whatever i

[Joe Getty]

mean a highly underpriced hotdog yeah

[Co-host/Commentator]

so warren iran unpopular latest fox news poll support or oppose us military action against iran there's different ways of ask asking this questions support or oppose us military action anyway oppose a sixty percent in that question in the fox poll the question asked the other day in one of your polling organizations was has it been worth it which is a different way of looking at it and that one was in the seventies of people saying not worth which if if you're asking me right at this moment today you could make the argument that it's not worth it but it's not over

[Joe Getty]

yet so that's the problem with that it's like somebody waking up from a joint replacement and asking them was this worth it well it'd be like i

[Co-host/Commentator]

don't know so katie katie katie the katie green the baby machine like if you'd ask her the week before she had the baby when she is the most uncomfortable has it been worth it how do you answer that question i'm miserable right now but it's leading towards

[Joe Getty]

something good just stupid and and it should you know social or issues polling is practically useless and so easy to mislead folks but to me the perfect question would involve to prevent iran from spreading terrorism and acquiring a nuclear weapon

[Co-host/Commentator]

yeah i wish trump would be better at making that argument he he did another one of his just a little too flippant comments this morning we probably haven't we'll play it later though but he was asked about gas prices in memorial day weekend which is the number one fetish for the media right now right people want to travel this but they can't because gas is expensive all

[Joe Getty]

right whatever

[Co-host/Commentator]

and trump was asked about it he said well it's peanuts it's just peanuts well see you're being a little too dismissive with people's money as a billionaire that just that doesn't work

[Joe Getty]

who an inherited wealth yeah yeah i

[Co-host/Commentator]

understand his point compared to iran getting a nuclear weapon gas being a dollar higher for six months or nine months or whatever yeah that's a perfectly good trade off but you haven't gone to the country and made that argument i'm going to ask you to sacrifice a little economic pain for a little while for this reason and he's not done that at all not not just not well but not at all here's something

[Joe Getty]

for you to to try in your personal life anytime your loved ones perhaps your spouse your children your closest friends have a legitimate concern about what they're going through though it will be worth it in the end dismiss those concerns out of hand as stupid see how your relationships shape up i'll try it

[Co-host/Commentator]

yeah get back to us tomorrow right

[Joe Getty]

oh my god these groceries are expensive honey you're stupid we've got to eat

[Co-host/Commentator]

so just keep moving it's peanuts compared to iran getting a nuke

[Joe Getty]

this rotisserie

[Co-host/Commentator]

chicken three different publications with a little iranian news today will end with the wall street journal editorial board's opinion on the whole thing first this from the new york times senior iranian officials maintain that all decisions are being run through the fifty six year old son of the ayatollah who's hiding somewhere and wounded and his dad was killed decision making actual making though however extends beyond one man experts say guided by a small elite band of mostly current or former senior members of the islamic revolutionary guard corps it's not the guards as an organization they say but a hardened band of brothers whose seminal experience was the eight year war between iran and iraq in the eighties and they fought in that and they came to the conclusion with the west the united states and europe supporting iraq that we need to be on our own we need to you know fight for ourselves no matter what the cost so they are hardened against the world the associated press's version of this kind of story is as in negotiations with the united states hang in the balance a hard line iranian general linked to attacks at home and abroad is believed to have seized a place near the center of power brigadel brigadier general ahmad vahiti who heads iran's parallel paramilitary revolutionary guard has become the major player in formulating iran's tough stance in negotiating experts say and so he's the guy we got to convince then he hasn't been seen by the way since february eighth weeks before the war began so he hasn't been seen this entire war and they think he's the guy making decisions on thursday iranian media carried reports that vahiti was meeting with pakistan's interior minister in tehran our good friends the pakistanis with his you know pushback on the negotiations which have been ridiculous which brings us to the wall street journal editorial board if the goal was to see whether iran's regime is ready to abandon its pursuit of nuclear weapons by now mister trump has his answer it isn't the iranians confirm this with each counteroffer that refuses to dismantle underground enrichment sites or hand over their stockpiles of enriched uranium as mister trump famously said in criticizing his predecessors the us shouldn't start a war if it isn't prepared to do what it takes to win that's from the wall street journal editorial board you're not looking like you're willing to do what it takes to win this thing which is where we're stuck

[Joe Getty]

the case has not been proved the judge has not given the jury instructions but it does look like hesitation and uncertainty just the never ending string of all right we're gonna whoop your ass if you're not done by you gotta give us a real offer by the end of the week all right the week's over you got till wednesday are we going to pound you out of existence i swear to god by next saturday we'll just remove your civilization by three weeks from tuesday it's got that feel to it is it

[Co-host/Commentator]

as simple as some people have said that trump thought it could be another venezuela we could get what we wanted through the air quick strike and he doesn't have the stomach and i'm not saying this would be easy as a president and the nation would hate it but he doesn't have the stomach for boots on the ground which we've learned over and over and over again throughout history in the world that you gotta have to actually pull off a regime change he doesn't have the stomach for hundreds maybe thousands of casualties like well basically what the wall street journal was saying you gotta be willing to do do it all if you're actually gonna winter a war be willing to actually go as far as you need to go he might not have the stomach for that and the country might not have the stomach for that that that is where we're stuck right there this

[Joe Getty]

is not knowable right now but to his expectations i think the extreme on one end is he thought oh it'll be just like maduro we'll go in we'll be out within forty minutes and the ayatollah is gone and they'll reform

[Co-host/Commentator]

and we'll finish out takes charge as we learned from the new york times the other day right or something like

[Joe Getty]

that that would be one extreme of ridiculously unrealistic expectations the other extreme i think would be he knew perfectly well how difficult and prolonged the struggle would be blah blah bl the truth is in that spectrum i don't know i hope it isn't as ridiculous as you know we'll be in and out in forty five minutes but it wouldn't be surprising at all that it's much much more difficult and complicated than anybody anticipated as you know every great thinker has talked about war has made clear don't think you're going to be the master of events war becomes the master of events and you can only try to you know dance successfully with it he says mixing a number of different metaphors

[Co-host/Commentator]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Co-host/Commentator]

off off this because i'm not sure there's a lot new to say in the whole war in iran but it is kind of interesting that the the media obsession with the price of gas and memorial day plans and all this and they always throw in the because of the war in iran that's why the price of gas is so high but never get to the speaking of the war in iran you know what should we do or what with different opinions they just kind of gloss over the war in iran like that's a pretty big topic so so you you're you're you're you're big on the the repercussions from the war big enough to be your lead story but you don't want to talk about what caused that

[Joe Getty]

lead story the purposes and the progress right yeah it is to call it an inch deep i think is to give it a compliment it does not deserve right it's like a quarter of an inch deep then i don't know

[Co-host/Commentator]

that people are having the conversations nobody's ever brought it up to me in my real life about iran and is it a quagmire or should we get out or should we is it worth putting boots on the ground and losing marines to take carg island all these different these conversations aren't being had as far as i know with regular people

[Joe Getty]

boy not that i've heard so coming up believe it or not you remember those three half wits who are like fake reporters at the louis mangioni trial who are activists and then he's there's a lot to that story i mean it's crazier than it seems cool i

[Co-host/Commentator]

want to talk about that yeah well

[Joe Getty]

yeah before too long just in a

[Co-host/Commentator]

few minutes thinking about the like trying to come up with an example for that whole iran war gas price thing like you're walking around with a with a with a with a knife stuck in your back and you keep talking about back pain and all this discussion about back pain and now how back pain is going to affect your memorial day weekend nobody's talking about the knife

[Joe Getty]

stuck in your back maybe we should put that out there or what can

[Co-host/Commentator]

be done about it right exactly right

[Joe Getty]

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[Co-host/Commentator]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

whoever started that

[Co-host/Commentator]

in right field i'll do whatever i need to do to make sure they come every game because that was awesome not only them but everybody that showed up today that was a that was

[Joe Getty]

a fun environment it's awesome and it

[Co-host/Commentator]

creates an environment where it's not only filling this place up it's making it

[Joe Getty]

a tough place for other teams to

[Co-host/Commentator]

come in and play what is that

[Joe Getty]

michael that was the cardinals manager and he's talking about tarps off i guess it's sweeping major league baseball stadiums where somebody goes to a section they take their shirt off and a bunch of groups of young men just take over that section shirtless i saw that i actually saw that at a hockey game tarps off how does that make it tougher for the other team to win

[Co-host/Commentator]

well that's what i was wondering because i kind of knew what this was before so when he was talking he said and and everybody can see men's nipples so i mean i love it

[Joe Getty]

it really creates an atmosphere that it makes it harder for the other team to win why i feel like i could persevere as an opposing player sun's

[Co-host/Commentator]

out pits out so all those shirtless

[Joe Getty]

men out there i just can't focus on the breaking pitch i don't i'm

[Co-host/Commentator]

mystified by this i am too okay

[Joe Getty]

all right we need more on this michael you are heading up the tarps off effect committee i need you to research this deeply yeah i mean if it was women doing this i could understand but yeah i don't get it yeah yeah yeah frankly yeah as an opposing player i think glance or i follow the bat where's the ball where's

[Co-host/Commentator]

the ball

[Joe Getty]

so i very very bad news here the trump coins will not be ready for america's two hundred fiftieth birthday on july fourth i'm afraid the plan is for only forty seven coins to be produced each containing an estimated ninety thousand dollars worth of gold according to newsweek i was gonna get one for judy for her anniversary i thought what better way to symbolize our love the decades we've spent together than a ninety thousand dollar coin with donald trump's face on it why didn't you call

[Co-host/Commentator]

me on my trump phone and tell me this i don't know anything about this story

[Joe Getty]

it's one of the many bizarro announcements they've made over the last several months about whether the two hundred fiftieth anniversary or weird meme coins or a hundred other things or ballrooms or repairing the reflecting pool or whatever it kind of came into one but yeah they were going to put out a commemorative coin to celebrate the anniversary including the forty seven whatever they call them coins that are worth near six figures the us mint is offering a range of other commemorative coins this year though valued at over ten thousand doll dollars each some of the designs include revolutionary war quarters american eagle gold coins gotta be brought to you by american airlines right and enduring liberty half dollars but

[Co-host/Commentator]

we don't just have regular in circulation patriotic stuff because we're old enough to have lived through the bicentennial nineteen seventy six and like every quarter dime was a bicentennial this or that yeah yeah

[Joe Getty]

that might be happening too i don't know in other news how much time do we have scientists have made a fascinating discovery about neanderthal dentistry okay they have found evidence of a root canal from fifty nine thousand years ago wow it's almost you can't dispute that that's what happened from the evidence they can find no evidence that any sort of

[Co-host/Commentator]

anesthesia existed i was gonna say that had to be pretty pretty brutal i

[Joe Getty]

mean i'm a neanderthal i'm saying i tell you what how about we take three seconds and you yank that son of a gun out you're not drilling into me for because they figured out it would take a couple of hours with the tools they had well they

[Co-host/Commentator]

didn't have drills so the drilling would be a sharp stick or a rock

[Joe Getty]

or something yeah a drill bit made from very hard rock that you'd spin between your hands oh really for like two and a half hours well you

[Co-host/Commentator]

had nothing else to do give me

[Joe Getty]

some of those intoxicating berries now give me more of them those wackadoodles outside the manioni trial next armstrong and getty

[Activist/Protester]

millions of americans suffer every single day from the last we had a literal infinite who because of how negligent her health insurance was she died an infant died so if you guys are okay with someone like ryan thompson being around and that being a part of our society that says more about you as a person because you look absolutely monstrous defending someone like that participates in social murder that's what mass social murder yes

[Joe Getty]

that is one of the three quote unquote journalists who were outside the luigi mangioni trial the other day talking about how young brian thompson committed mass social murder and a literal infant died therefore murder's okay here's a couple more samples of the thinking his children are better

[Activist/Protester]

off without him they need to learn to not be like their dad and

[Jack Armstrong]

enjoy the blood money kids

[Activist/Protester]

i'm standing on business brian thompson i don't give a millions of americans i liked it

[Joe Getty]

so these three young women and we'll describe who they are in a moment or two were given press passes by the by mayor mamdani's young assistant who's in charge of that she is highly sought off limited press passes to get

[Co-host/Commentator]

into that trial because it's a giant

[Joe Getty]

news story yeah exactly yeah highly sought after and yeah his his assistant there in the press office is is what i call an islamianist she's an example of the red green alliance she's a radical leftist who is a muslim who's in favor of radical muslim groups anyway so they granted these passes and we'll get into that millions of people have seen those videos which is good i think they identified themselves as manginistas in favor of louis g mangioni committing murder blah blah blah and then this excellent piece by olivia rheingold goes into the whole frenzied fans of this guy who've donated generously to his legal defense fund well over one point five million dollars

[Co-host/Commentator]

wow i didn't know call him a

[Joe Getty]

progressive american hero and it's mostly like fan girls attracted to him but somehow these gals got press credentials and to your point she talks about the storied new york conservative outlet city journal was denied a press pass by zoran mumdani's administration and they were wondering aloud what's the difference between those people and us i mean we're like a legendary new york media outlet and they could not get a pass now in a strategic retreat as marxists do when they're caught doing what they do they've the city hall has said we're reassessing the city's process and standards for press credentialing but let's get to the young ladies and their names again april rios apparently that was a typo in the hospital or

[Co-host/Commentator]

something did you say april a b r i l like april to be

[Joe Getty]

yes correct april or lena weisbrot or who's the third one ashley rojas okay these are the names weisbrot is a graduate of florida state university and one of five us students awarded a fulbright fellowship in twenty fifteen to study the influence of music around the world her particular focus hip hop is a form of activism in south africa

[Co-host/Commentator]

good luck going out into the world with that

[Joe Getty]

major for the millionth time citing the brilliant matt taibi phrase about upper class twits promoting revolution so she was a fulbright scholar she appears to have been a graduate student and a taught at the university of california los angeles sometimes known as ucla in their design media arts program in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four her biographer her biography rather refers to her as a game developer and media artist whose work quote contends with the structures in place that prevent individuals from affecting meaningful change in twenty fourteen wise brought created a game called she doesn't say f she says the f word f everything the idea is to well f everything she describes it as a dating simulation where you can have intercourse with people animals monsters and inanimate objects outside the courthouse pardon

[Co-host/Commentator]

me whatever that means outside the courthouse

[Joe Getty]

on monday weisbrot seemed down on life quote our government has abandoned us we are their cattle they siphon our life force we're done and the american people need to get on the same page otherwise you know continue your death march into the meat grinder for the billionaire class all right fair enough fair enough next to her was april rios an influencer turned organizer involved with hot girls for zoron according to her interview with reporter vicky ward last year oh my

[Co-host/Commentator]

god if that's your daughter how do you deal with that oh i know

[Joe Getty]

i know rios linkedin profile describes her as a social media manager at ali design and consulting services a new york based digital marketing firm that says it has a passion for justice equity and inclusion its clients include care action a lobbying firm that acts as the voice of american muslims in the political process care of course which is a front group for funding terrorism before that said

[Co-host/Commentator]

his kids are better off without him

[Joe Getty]

which is just a horrific yes enjoy the blood money yes she said he's responsible for more deaths than bin laden we understand heroic violence that's interesting echoing a bit of a muslim party line there too before political activism rio said there wasn't that much going on for me i really craved a community i see such a beautiful future ahead of me since she joined the new york political scene blah blah blah she wrote no matter who you are most of us are closer to being one bad week away from being unhoused than we are to becoming billionaires that one bad week could be even one bad day if you have a particularly expensive hospital trip well mathematically that is true i

[Co-host/Commentator]

am closer to being homeless than i am to being a billionaire mathematically but

[Joe Getty]

that doesn't mean anything interestingly when this writer for the free press logged into the free luigi discord server on monday night many of the the folks who are big into that we're disavowing these manginista checks good the women were feds some messages said shorthand in gen z for law enforcement or being affiliated with the government i'm absolutely horrified and embarrassed for everyone involved one user wrote how can you grant press access to them

[Co-host/Commentator]

i doubt they're feds but i'm glad

[Joe Getty]

they believe they're literally sabotaging the movement intentionally yeah i don't know i live in a town where there's lots of people i feel like i could go

[Co-host/Commentator]

within a mile of where i where i live and find a number of women that would agree with these women

[Joe Getty]

without them being feds right right on a couple of mornings ago rios was defiant about the backlash and i quote no amount of pressure or fear mongering is going to make me bow to our oppressors she wrote to her one hundred sixty thousand followers on instagram i have zero remorse or sympathy for those capitalizing off of and relying on the deaths of the american people to put money in the pockets of the few upper class twits promoting revolution fulbright scholars going on and on about righteous murder to avenge social murder talking about heroic violence and how we need to grow some balls wow wow wow this is so nineteen sixty seven to seventy four seventy five yeah and these things can

[Co-host/Commentator]

catch hold and and and and do some serious damage a lot of people can get hurt with this ideology it's crazy and i thought it was dead and gone but it seems to have

[Joe Getty]

made a comeback right right right more on other topics after a word from our friends at incogni your personal information is valuable and far more accessible than you realize or certainly more than you want every time you shop online your data is collected packaged and sold to data brokers that's why you got to

[Co-host/Commentator]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Co-host/Commentator]

armstrong i feel like those women some of the things they said like it seemed like one of them in particular would would remember oh here's a line we wanted to make sure we got in that was extra annoying or insulting like provocative or provocative yeah they had strategized a list of provocative things to say and want to make sure they got them all in their sound clip and i'm not exactly sure what's going on there does that help their the number of clicks they get their number of followers they have maybe

[Joe Getty]

yes i

[Co-host/Commentator]

yeah absolutely about it she jumps in

[Joe Getty]

at the end yeah yeah there was definitely an element of going you know checking various boxes of the ideological stuff you're supposed to spout and then that is extra provocative hard to say what's going on with these women exactly i

[Co-host/Commentator]

think they're you know their mindset is dangerously revolutionary but there's probably just a big element of clickbait as you say everything is clickbait now they just they want to get followers i'm going to say strong things that i know a certain chunk of people are gonna either rage click me or agree click me and follow me yeah so i was

[Joe Getty]

thinking about the late sixties early seventies radical chic and if you didn't live through it or you haven't read about it it was really quite amazing it was like this but even more i mean there was bombs going off every day in america generally it was to destroy property and not people but it was it was hundreds of times a year and you had all sorts of college educated people you know william ayers types you remember obama's buddy the weather underground you know black panthers all these radical groups and it was very similar it was a lot of college educated people who were angry about something and certainly if you were angry about the vietnam war confused threatened alienated et cetera or the government's dishonesty yeah that's perfectly legitimate but they channeled that into this upper class educated revolutionary fervor i remember the patty hearst case two of the people two of the main people involved with that were named harris as i recall husband and wife and one of them grew up in the same town i did in suburban chicagoland and i would drive by like their street and it was a very lovely town where like you know just barely middle class to upper middle class depending on what section of the town you lived in people lived and these people had very pleasant suburban chicago lives and i used to drive by their house thinking how the hell do you come out of here and decide you're going to kill people to overthrow the evildoers but it's the need it's alienation and unhappiness joined with a need to live a life of purpose and a certain number of young people get swept up in that and man you can convince them of anything and and you can convince them to do practically anything because what they're doing is righteous and they are changing

[Co-host/Commentator]

the world and the well to do seem to be more susceptible to it than actual poor people in middle class

[Joe Getty]

oh yeah the poor in the middle class are like i gotta make a living all right get out of my

[Co-host/Commentator]

face we indicted one yesterday raul castro and his brother fidel were quite well to do they were like among the richest families in the in the town they grew up in and turned revolutionary we got a lot of stuff on the way got some pushback on that whole data centers use too much water thing that is causing people to freak out about a data center coming near them which is kind of entertaining among other things on the way stay here

[Joe Getty]

armstrong and gettysburg after learning he'll be inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame again phil collins making a rare public appearance

[Co-host/Commentator]

collins wife jill posting

[Joe Getty]

a new photo of collins on crutches

[Co-host/Commentator]

with another legend rod stewart at buckingham palace yeah phil collins health really really bad he did his first drumming appearance not long ago sitting on a stool and looking like a skeleton i don't i don't know what ailment he has but one of the oddest rock stars using my finger quotes to ever come along for all kinds of different reasons his look his sound everything but very very popular and some of it i really liked some of it i hated but man there was a period of there in the like eighties and nineties where if you had some sort of romantic movie hey phil could you could you come up with a song for a romantic movie and he'd crank one out and it'd win an oscar and behind every radio station and it's hard to take yeah yeah we have played a little bit of jeff bezos world's second richest man in an interview he did with cnbc we'll have to get to more of that now or three i haven't actually heard his spiel on ai the major benefits that we're all going to get out of ai and i and i kind of want to

[Joe Getty]

hear that

[Co-host/Commentator]

because i'm a little skeptical but on the topic of ai couple things that have gotten a lot of attention recently are these big data centers that we're going to need to to for ai to operate so they're going to build them in like rural areas of the country and where there's lots of suburban these these giant massive buildings that won't really have many employees but those would be these big data centers so that your various ai companies will have the computing power they need one of the pushbacks is the amount of water that it's going to require to run these things so i saw the pushback to the pushback yesterday a couple of different versions one being growing nuts in california most of which are shipped to china i didn't realize this because they're their appetite for nuts over there and they're nuts for nuts in china we get nothing back from the nut industry in terms of the water we we use which is a lot a lot of water to grow nuts but we will get a lot back economically from ai okay that's one pushback or that your average golf course uses way more water than your data center so i don't know this will all get worked out in our national conversation i suppose about these data centers is that

[Joe Getty]

your last bit about the water was yeah oh the other part it's a closed loop they don't burn through that water they just circulate it they don't consume that much over and over and over again so it's an incredibly misleading

[Co-host/Commentator]

figure well and water doesn't go away when it gets used it takes a while but it stays on planet earth it doesn't disappear from the earth forever what but one of our one of our favorite clients who's a super smart guy sent me this text about ai which i really thought was interesting he said everyone's so nervous that this makes five or six people so powerful if you really think about it as of today right now literally one billion people with a smartphone all all have access to all information equal access to expert training and advice literally right now people have access to an expert in every domain domain on earth that is better than anyone that they can call that they personally know it blows my mind that people cannot see this of course he's a super smart guy if you're smart and you know how to utilize these tools it is true they are insanely amazing in terms of what your product is of power could be or to to take whatever idea you have and bring it to fruition not sure that's what the average person will use it for

[Joe Getty]

no no if if they did they wouldn't be the average person

[Co-host/Commentator]

if you if you never leave your house all you do is have conversations and sex with your porn bot it's not quite exactly the same thing low stress but yeah man you have an idea for something or a problem to solve or anything like that there's never been better access to every bit of expertise that exists on the planet in your hand in your phone yeah i

[Joe Getty]

had a question for my doctor and claude gave me a way better answer than my doctor did i felt bad because i like him but it's like wow dude did you should have clotted

[Co-host/Commentator]

that i had a bit of a problem with my my son's old truck not starting and that particular mod model and blah blah blah and i i asked chat gpt a question and it's thorough rundown of all the things to check that ended up fixing the problem was amazing it was like i had a mechanic that specialized in that vehicle standing with me right and that's not

[Joe Getty]

even getting into the ai agents that folks who are really into this are utilizing these days pretty amazing can't wait to get back to that jeff bezos

[Co-host/Commentator]

interview yeah it's pretty darned interesting he really takes a shot at new york city and mumdani which is good maybe we'll get to that now or three if you miss it get the podcast

[Jack Armstrong]

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