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This is an iHeart podcast.
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Guaranteed Human.
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Then the space hamster flew his hot air balloon all the way to the bottom of the ocean. Where did that story come from? Book Dream? Nope. It came from a conversation. Meet Meco Mini plus the AI companion that co creates personalized story adventures with your child in real time. What color was the hamster's cape and what did he pack for lunch? Unlock your child's imagination. Discover Mikomini Pl and the magic of AI Exclusively at Costco.
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I am Nina Khrushcheva, the great granddaughter.
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Of Nikita Khrushchev, the leader of the Soviet Union in 1962. And I'm Max Kennedy, the nephew of US President John F. Kennedy. We explore what was a terrifying moment in history, the story of the Cuban Missile crisis, how close the world came.
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To nuclear war and what they had.
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To do to pull it back from the brink. The bomb, Kennedy and Khrushchev.
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Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get.
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Your podc 10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000.
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This is where mindset comes in.
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Someone will be eliminated.
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Pressure is coming down.
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Trainer Games on Prime Video January 8th Watch the trailer on trainer games.com Season.
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Two of unrivaled basketball is here and the talent is unreal. Paige Beckers, Nafiza Collier, Kelsey Plumb, Brianna Stewart and more are back to redefine the game. Unrivaled basketball season two sponsored by Samsung Galaxy tips off January 5th on TNT, TruTV and HBO. Max, ever wish you could try the Washington Post and see what all the talk is about? Right now you can with a one week pass for just $7. No commitment, no strings attached. Just $7 for one week of unlimited access to the Post. It's the perfect way to explore our award winning journalism and experience what subscribers already know. There's nothing else quite like it, so why not give us a try? Go to washingtonpost.com week and start your $7 one week pass today. That's washingtonpost.com week.
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center.
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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
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Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong strong and get it.
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Live from Studio C. See a senior.
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A dimly lit room where deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound and hey y', all, we're getting close to Christmas. Today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.
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Truck boats. There were three more taken out in last 24 hours or something like that.
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Yeah.
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Kurt Bluey. Kur. Bluey comma, Kurt Bluey.
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Did we get a all with the first shot, or did we have to find a couple of people clinging to balsa wood and make sure they got the old double tap right?
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Not. Not clear in this account.
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That story seems to have gone away. Is that story over?
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All stories go away in, like, three days, no matter how enormous they are. Because there are so many stories, too many stories.
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Especially if a celebrity gets killed.
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Oh, yeah. Apparently, government needs to strictly limit how many things happen.
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I'm interested in the whole Rob Reiner thing. Just, you know, it's interesting, but it's amazing the news coverage it's getting last. All the newscasts I took in last night had the. Had the top three stories in the exact opposite order of importance to the world in my mind.
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Yeah, I would agree.
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But, you know.
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You know, as you know, I was born annoyed and will die annoyed, but I've tried not to be annoyed by this. I've tried to understand it. What is it. What is it about the average human being? Because all of us tend to assume that everybody else's head works more or less like ours, but it's not true. The longer you live, the more people you know, the more experiences you have, the more you know that to be. Evidently, the fondness for his work, the horror of a murder within a family, the feeling of a personal connection because you laughed at some of his absolutely wonderful movies. I. I don't. I don't quite get it, but I'm working on it.
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Yeah. Like you mentioned yesterday, during the show, the New York Post had eight stories going at the same time. And that's similar today. All on the Rob Reiner thing and his son.
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The topic of. I mean, because this is an ongoing problem, this is probably the part of the whole homeless street person thing, the ongoing conversation about what you do with drug addicts that can't or won't get their acts together.
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We.
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That mean that that's right there with that family.
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Oh, my goodness.
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Yeah. And I mean, you know, and that really gets to the whole. Well, they need rehab. Okay, well, Rob Reiner's got more money than Bejesus, and the kid went to rehab 15 times.
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Right.
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Some people.
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Is there an answer to that?
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I don't. I don't know that there is. Yeah. Other than lock people up, they keep.
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Breaking the law, keep break, keep locking them Up.
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Yeah, if they keep breaking the law, keep locking them up.
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That's probably the only hope a guy like that had for the repercussions to become so severe that he thought, I can't live like this. And somehow something clicks. I don't know. It's a tough one, but, I mean, I'm thinking about back to the greater theme, although I'm more than happy to talk about that. I don't know if, like, Keith Richards, troubled kid killed him, or one of my musical heroes who had brought me so much joy through my life. I would think, oh, my God, that's terrible. But I wouldn't need to hear unending details about it. I'd figure that's a family horror, a story of drug addiction, blah, blah, blah. But people seem to have a great thirst for it, I guess. I don't know.
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Then he got the angle of Trump's unbelievable truth. Social post blaming Rob Reiner being stabbed to death on his politics.
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Yeah, yeah, it's horrible. It's horrible. It's. It's bizarre.
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I don't know. You can go back 10 years. The first one Trump did, the very first time, he went so far out of bounds of anything anybody'd ever seen. And a lot of people thought, oh, okay, well, he's done. He was the opposite of done, obviously, when he said about John McCain, I prefer people who don't get captured. I mean, that is so outrageously awful. I mean, and you can't really.
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It's. Yeah, the outrageousness and the stupidity of it.
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Come on, you can't really top that. I feel like I've been in that zone for a decade now. I mean, that's the sort of thing the guy's gonna say.
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Yeah, apparently it's, it's inexplicable.
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Yeah, it's, it's, It's a wild way to look at life, man. If you, if you become an enemy of that guy, he, he, he has no. There's no gray zone. You are just an enemy, no matter what happens to you.
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Stupid and outrageous. Stupid. Aegis.
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A lot of my favorite columnists and politicians, including many, many Republicans and conservatives, condemning harshly the truth. Social post from Donald Trump about the killing. How could you not? I don't know. What do you even say about that?
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Meanwhile, his Justice Department is doing heroic work against wokeism, for instance, in our corporations, our institutions. It's fantastic. It's wonderful. I know people call it paying the Trump tax. You just have to put up with doing crap like that. I wish it weren't True, but I wish I had a pony face.
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I had a minor Twitter spat before I realized there's no point getting into Twitter spats with people of, you know, that whole thing. Yeah, just incredible. Trump does things that are just outrageously awful. I mean, no human being should do. He said, what kind of a precedent does that? What sort of a. What's the example? What sort of example does that set for anyone to act like that? On the other hand, I still am so happy he's president as opposed to Kamala. It's not even close. It's not even close.
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Which is an indictment of our system or our primary, our immortal souls or something.
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I don't know. I don't know.
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I'm just glad it's almost Christmas time.
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The other two big stories that fall behind, the Rob Reiner murder, even though they're more important, the Brown shooting, Brown University, I don't think that's got any greater significance at all. It just gets lumped into the whole angry, crazy people go out and shoot people thing, I suspect.
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So we'll have to see what it was. But I would bet you're right.
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The thing in Australia is such a big deal. And like, I was listening to NPR today and they're still making it a gun story about what they can do with the gun laws in Australia. Okay, you can tweak the gun laws all you want. And we still have rampant immigration among fundamentalist Muslims who want to change the countries they're going to. That's a pretty big deal.
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And in Australia, like Britain, like France, like the United States, the Jewish people are begging the authorities saying, listen, you. You yourself are reporting on this skyrocketing increase in anti Semitic attacks. There it is building to something horrific. You need to be aware of this. You need to be serious about it. You need to condemn it, and you need to look hard for where it's coming from and what these people are trying to do. In Australia, they were crying out for that for months. And the authorities were like, well, we don't want to inflame conflicts here, so we're just going to soft pedal it. And there's one brilliant, troubling piece was entitled now do you believe us?
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Yeah. And I suppose you always got to throw in the caveat because it's absolutely true. Tons and tons and tons of Muslims around the world don't believe in killing Jews like that. The guy that bravely tackled one of the shooters, also a Muslim from Syria or wherever, tackled the guy and pointed the gun in his face. He didn't want to kill Jews. He's horrified by the whole thing.
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Right. But there's a man, a hero.
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But there's enough that do want to kill Jews and want to. Want you to not get free speech and want your wife not to be able to walk around uncovered and etc. Etc. There's a lot of people like that.
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I wish I had kept a great piece of thinking trying to remember who it even was, who was explaining. And this was, gosh, post 911 that the, the never ending caveats and disclaimers and we make them too, about, you know, there are plenty of Muslims who are fine folks and we're not talking about them. He said the, the moderate Muslim is irrelevant to the discussion because everybody knows it. And so let's focus on those who hold the attitudes we're talking about. We are talking about Islamists. And if you are a devout Muslim, you want Islam installed as a political system. Not a sincere Muslim, but a literalist Muslim, a fundamentalist Muslim. That's what you want. There's no question. So let's just talk about that.
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These guys had ISIS flags in their truck. That is the worst of the worst. That makes the. I think Palestine should have a state, should be a state is, you know, holy cow, you joined isis. Wow.
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Yeah. It reminds me of another thing I brought up the other day, that when Islam hit the modern world and a lot of its precepts, you know, never ending conquest, pro slavery, murdering anybody who did not convert, that sort of thing, when those fundamentals ran up against the modern world, they had to have their Protestant moment, as it was called, where a certain chunk of Islam went with, all right, it's a personal faith. It's in the heart, get right with Allah. This kind of, you know, akin to some of the Old Testament stuff that a Jew or a Christian might think. Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna SM any Hittites because they're wearing a red dress or whatever. I'm obviously conflating several things, but a lot of people went in that direction and a lot of people went with no, no, no, no, no. Like a fundamentalist Christian might. Every word of our holy book is the literal truth and we must follow it to the letter. Which in the case of Islam is soaked with blood and conquest and punishment for unbelievers. And so it's that section that we need to worry about. Fine, the good folks, hey, God bless you.
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I hope you have a long and.
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Happy life and I'm happy to have you as a neighbor in America. But as Fundamentalists. That's a problem.
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And that's gun laws. Gun laws. Gun laws. Gun laws. It's just a gun. Let's start the show officially. Then I want to do a quick update on where we are on the raising money for scouting. We had a good night, Good day. As people were listening to the podcast across the country. We'll do that in a little bit. But let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Jo Getty on this. It is Tuesday, December 16th. Holy cow. It's getting close. The year 2025. We're Armstrong and Getty and we approve of this program.
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Let's begin then, officially, according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go. The show starts at mark.
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So I think we're getting close.
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In particular, we're getting close with the.
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Americans and the Ukrainians and the Europeans. Those three entities have been getting together over the last couple of days and have come to agreements. Actually. Listen to that interview. Former ambassador or something or other that we've. I think we've actually even had on our show before. He says the Americans say we're 90% there. Do the Russians agree to anything, though? That's what I don't get. Are they?
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I. I will be delighted to find out I'm wrong. I don't believe that. Yeah, well, I do not believe what he said.
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We'll talk more about that coming up. Gladys, I wonder if you could take your little spindly arms and do a drum roll for us.
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Could you do that? It's a nice tight roll so you can make fun of her arms all you want. That's a good drum roll.
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Dang right it is. And we are currently at with a goal of a hundred thousand dollars this week.
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35.
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127 dollars. 35,000 dollars.
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Making sure kids who want to be in scouting and can't afford to get that fabulous experience love it. Thanks for your contributions and we'll talk.
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More about that and what I've seen scouting do for kids a little bit later. We got Katie's headlines on the way. I hope you can stay here, Armstrong and Getty.
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Then the space hamster flew his hot air balloon all the way to the bottom of the ocean. Where did that story come from? Book dream? Nope. It came from a conversation. Meet Meco Mini plus, the AI companion that co creates personalized story adventures with your child in real time. What color was the hamster's cape and what did he pack for lunch? Unlock your child's imagination. Discover Miko Mini plus and the Magic of AI exclusively at Costco.
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Want to know how to become the richest person in the world? Start with the latest episode of our podcast, Good Bad Billionaire. We're telling the story of how Elon Musk amassed half a trillion dollars from.
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His troubled childhood in South Africa to.
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Buying Twitter and launching rockets into space.
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With all the boardroom dramas along the.
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Way, find out how he did it on Good Bad billionaire.
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Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000.
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This is where mindset comes in.
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Someone will be eliminated. Pressure is coming down.
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Trainer Games on Prime Video January 8th. Watch the trailer on trainergames.com Season 2.
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Of Unrivaled Basketball is here and the talent is unreal. The best women's players on the planet are running it back with even bigger moments and bigger stakes. Don't miss as Paige Beckers, Nafiza Collier, Kelsey, Chelsea Plumb, Brianna Stewart and more take the court and redefine the game. This isn't your regular season. This is unrivaled where the pace is faster, the energy is higher and every athlete shines. Unrivaled basketball season two, sponsored by Samsung Galaxy Tips off January 5th on TNT, TruTV and HBO Max ever wish you could try the Washington Post and see what all the talk is about? Right now you can with a one week pass for just $7. No commitment, no strings attached. Just $7 for one week of unlimited access to the Post. It's the perfect way to explore our award winning journalism and experience what subscribers already know. There's nothing else quite like it, so why not give us a try? Go to washingtonpost.com week and start your $7 one week pass today. That's washingtonpost.com week.
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What did we decide was the minimum you have to donate to get your funny name mentioned for donating to scouts?
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25 bucks.
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25 bucks.
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Very modest. It's part of our affordability program.
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But it's just, I don't, I don't want you to donate $5 and we read your funny name. So it's got to be at least $25. But we did get 40 bucks from the bear who wouldn't stop it. Love those Scouts. We got in particularly donated 50 bucks.
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And thank you Mr.
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Particularly in particularly and thank you $200 from very very stupid babies. If you want to Donate. You just go to Armstrong and getty.com. we made it very, very easy. Right up there at the top of the page. You can donate.
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Yes, indeed. Ho. So much going on as usual. Probably too much. It's wearing me out. Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's lead story with Katie Green. Katie.
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And we do have Rob Reiner at the top of all the news sources. So we'll start with that. ABC director Rob Reiner and wife Michelle stabbed to death. Son arrested for murder. Fox News Rob Reiner's son Nick's long struggle with addiction comes into focus after his parents deaths. And from tmz, Rob Reiner and son.
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Nick had a heated argument at Conan.
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O' Brien's Christmas party before the murder. Conan o' Brien has a legendary Christmas party. I've picked up on that from listening to many celebrity podcasts over the years. It's like the big blowout for all your cool celebrities every year. Anyway, at the party the other night, father and son getting a big argument and a couple hours later, son comes back and kills mom and dad.
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Katie, you have, you're known for an earthy, common sense approach to life. Why do you think the fascination, is it just that he was a big celebrity? Why the fascination with the murder?
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I think it's the celebrity aspect and.
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Everybody knows who he is. Yeah, yeah, that's what I think.
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I don't know.
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NBC Fear and frustration set in as.
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Search for Brown University gunman continues. I heard him describing him today. He's a fat guy with a duck walk and bad posture. I thought, this is not helping. He's gonna shoot more people. Associated Press Trump pledges retaliation after three Americans are killed in Syria attack that.
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The US blames on isis.
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I hope so. I hope we bomb the crap out of some ISIS people somewhere.
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From Breitbart.
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More than one third of Americans are.
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Planning to spend more than $1,000 on holiday gifts.
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Well, with what cost things cost now, if you got much of a family at all, I don't know how you'd stay under a thousand dollars from the Wall street journal. Spend $200 if you go to the grocery store.
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Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's a, it's a round number and an impressive number. But it's like I stopped saying I've got my million dollar idea. So what you got $1 million idea, please.
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Right. I did that, remember, I did the inflation calculator the other day. $1 million is what, half that in 2000? Just in 2000, the year 2000, right?
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And it was like a quarter million in the late 80s or something like that. Yeah.
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From the Wall Street Journal.
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When mom takes over your dating profile.
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Subtitle is burned out.
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Singles are letting family members take over.
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Their profiles on apps like Bumble and H. Wow.
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Hey, try something different.
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Mom, I can't land a gal.
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Why don't you take the reins?
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Is it that or is mom saying why don't you have a I need a grandchild like gets involved in your bumble to try to figure out how to get your wife. Study finds cell sized robots can sense, decide and move without any outside control. Cell sized?
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Yep.
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Wow. And finally from the Babylon Bee. After being charged with multiple felonies, former Michigan coach forced to move to the NFL. I get it. Send me that article about the cell sized robots. I mean, you add that with the cockroaches with backpacks that you can steer around. We got. It's a troubling time to be alive.
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I'm telling you. I've been telling. I've been telling you about these micro drones forever. They'll fly into a cloud as a cloud into your lungs and then explode.
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Well, thanks for that good morning Armstrong and Getty. Then the space hamster flew his hot air balloon all the way to the bottom of the ocean. Where did that story come from? Book Dream? Nope. It came from a conversation. Meet Miko Mini plus, the AI companion that co creates personalized story adventures with your child in real time. What color was the hamster's cape? And what did he pack for lunch? Unlock your child's imagination. Discover Miko Mini plus and the magic of AI Exclusively at Costco.
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The Infinite Monkey Cage returns imminently. I am Robert Ince and I'm sat next to Brian Cox, who has so much to tell you about what's on the new series. Primarily Eels and what else. It was fascinating. The Eels. But we're not just doing eels, are we? We're doing a bit with brain computer interfaces, timekeeping, fusion, monkey business, cloud science, the North Pole and eels. Did I mention the eels? Is this ever since you bought that timeshare underneath the Sargasso sea. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will lead here with an IFIT contract worth $250,000.
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This is where mindset comes in.
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Someone will be eliminated.
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Pressure is coming down.
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Trainer games on Prime Video January 8th. Watch the trailer on trainergames.com Season 2.
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Of Unrivaled Basketball is here and the talent is unreal. The best women's players on the planet are running it back with even bigger moments and bigger stakes. Don't miss as Paige Beckers, Nafiza Collier, Kelsey, Chelsea Plumb, Brianna Stewart and more take the court and redefine the game. This isn't your regular season. This is unrivaled where the pace is faster, the energy is higher and every athlete shines. Unrivaled basketball season two sponsored by Samsung Galaxy tips off January 5th on TNT, TruTV and HBO Max. Ever wish you could try the Washington Post and see what all the talk is about? Right now you can, with a one week pass for just $7. No commitment, no strings attached. Just $7 for one week of unlimited access to the Post. It's the perfect way to explore our award winning journalism and experience what subscribers already know. There's nothing else quite like it, so why not give us a try? Go to washingtonpost.com week and start your $7 one week pass today. That's washingtonpost.com week the maker of the.
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Robot vacuum Roomba said today that it has filed for bankruptcy. Apparently the whole company got themselves into.
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A corner and couldn't get out. I only used the first generation Roomba and it was next to worthless. So you have claimed that it got better over the years.
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It did, it did. Although I stopped using it a couple of years ago. I mean I keep thinking I should go back to it and then reprogram it and all, but I just haven't.
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I was thinking about that with tech this morning because I was having trouble with my Tesla and like the reason I like Tesla and Apple is it almost always does what it's supposed to do and I don't have to like figure anything out. I don't want any tech where I got to figure something out. If I have to figure something out, it ain't worth it to me. I just want it to work the way it's supposed to work. And very few tech things do. Narumba was that way for me. It's like okay, if I pick up absolutely everything and set everything in exactly the right spot, it can do its job. Well, I ain't gonna do that.
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So yeah, it's, it's. I haven't used the new new ones and that sort of technology is just leapt forward. Like I know in the world of golf, automated mowers are huge. Absolutely huge.
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I don't doubt that it'll get there, I'm sure. I'm absolutely certain it will, but I don't know if it's there yet.
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Yeah, rooms with a lot going on. Chairs and toys.
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He got kids and dogs. It's just I had them. Speaking of tech guys, at Best Buy, I tweeted out a picture of this yesterday. I tried on the latest generation of the Ray Ban glasses that have the tech in them, although I haven't tried the ones that have the screen in them yet. You have to set up an appointment to do that. They won't let you just try that out on your own. You have to make an appointment and do like a 20 minute, they show you how they work thing. So there's the glasses we've talked about before. Our agent uses them all the time. And there's a new generation out that's supposed to be even better. You can answer the phone, you can listen to music, you can variety of things with your glasses on, your sunglasses on or your eyeglasses on if you get the prescription. But then there's the new one that's got this. It's got a little screen in there that people looking at you can't see, but you can see it's in one of the lenses. And like you can read your texts and you can have directions on there, like if you're walking down the street and various things like that. Supposed to be pretty cool. Based on the reviews that I've seen. They're 800 bucks, which is kind of pricey. But I'll bet the idea with these smart glasses is that you won't carry your phone. It's going to be the getting away from the phone. You don't carry it anymore. Nobody says we're there yet on those, but I'll bet that is where we're headed. You're going to wear some sort of glasses. You're not going to carry a phone. It's all going to be in your glasses and that'll be within a couple of years.
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Yeah, I'm hoping to leave tech behind and move to the woods. Like even stuff face of old with Walden Pond and such.
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Even stuff that makes your life easier. I don't want things if it. Like I said, if it doesn't work the way it's supposed to work, first try, I ain't doing it. I don't want harder. I don't want my life to get more complicated. I don't want to get into a manual. I don't have to be on the line with the. With the it, it's just got to work immediately. Like, like most Apple stuff does, like Tesla stuff does. But, but if it makes your life easier, I'm pro, you know.
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C
Yeah, I, I, I'm not exactly. But I have the luxury of being in the part of my life, since my kids are grown, of, of seeking simplicity, whereas you don't really have that luxury with your kids and their lives and the rest of it. So I don't know.
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B
Your life's pretty simple if you're sitting there with your glasses on and a text comes in and you tap your fingers together and say, and you just read it, then you respond to it. Don't have to get out your phone, don't have to do anything.
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C
It seems pretty simple. You're dancing to the tune of your screen. Yeah.
- [28:34]
B
Wow. Are you going to give up texting? Are you going to go full Walden Pond?
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C
No, I'm just going to give up being plugged in all the time. I'm going to be doing what I'm doing and not dividing my attention with technology.
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B
But this would be the same amount of texting you're doing now in an easier manner without getting.
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C
Okay, am I doing a bad job of explaining myself, Katie, do you think or what?
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B
No, no, I think you're fine.
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C
I think that the point of trying.
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B
This, trying to get you away from your phone is crap because you're just putting your phone on your face.
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C
Well, right. And my point is all of that s is going to be over there and I'm not going to be paying any attention to it.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Mountain man, more or less.
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B
And you'll be.
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C
I'm absolutely convinced that is the route to better mental health and happiness.
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B
Whittling and writing poetry would be the answer.
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C
Yeah. A poetry about whittling.
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B
Yes. There once was a man who could whittle.
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C
Right. Don't get me started. Let's see. Spittle. George Kittle.
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B
Little.
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C
Little. I'm trying to avoid the obvious Breaking. Not exactly news. This is what everybody's gonna be talking about. It just broke in the New York Times minutes ago. Susie Wiles, the White House Chief of Staff, evidently sat down for 11 interviews with either Peter Baker of the New York Times or him and his team. And the quote unquote highlights the things she went ahead and said are unfreaking believable given the fact that she's still in the gig. This is like they've been out of office two years and she writes her book. Mr. Trump has an alcoholic's personality. Vice President J.D.
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B
Vance didn't I say that just a week ago?
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C
You did.
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B
He's an untreated alcoholic. I've thought that for years.
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C
Could you give the nickel version for folks who. Cuz he doesn't drink. He's never drank. His brother drank himself to death.
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B
In the world of alcoholism, most of us believe the drinking has very little to do with being an alcoholic. It's a, it's one of the many symptoms of being an alcoholic. You're either are or you aren't. And it's got to do with the way your brain works and the way you look at the world and your relationship to it.
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C
Fair enough. Okay.
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B
And he, and he, and since he's got, since he's got it in his family, his brother drank himself to death, it makes it fairly likely.
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C
He certainly has an obsessive. Well, I don't know how you would. I don't know much about that concept, so I'll let you choose the words. But anyway, so she said that Vice President J.D. vance has, quote, been a conspiracy theorist for a decade and his conversion from Trump critic ally was based not on principle, but was sort of political because he was running for the Senate. Elon Musk is, quote, an avowed ketamine user who's an odd, odd duck whose actions were not always rational and left her aghast. Russell T. Vaught, the project director, is a right wing, absolute zealot. Attorney General Pam Bondi completely whiffed in handling the Epstein files, among other quotes. This is very, very long. But this is, this is like when one of those tell all books comes out and everybody goes to the index immediately to see if they're mentioned in it and then Washington goes wild over it, you know, for, for a couple weeks or whatever. So far she's in the gig right now.
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B
So far, those all sound incredibly accurate. Most of them are negative, except I don't think the one on Elon is negative. Yes, he's an odd duck. I'm glad he's an odd duck. He's doing all kinds of things because he's an odd duck.
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C
Yeah, let's see. She urged Mr. Trump not to pardon the most violent rioters from Jan.6, but which he did anyway. I agree with her on that. She unsuccessfully tried to get him to delay his major tariffs because of huge disagreements among his advisors. She said the administration needs to, quote, look harder at deportations to prevent mistakes. But she did not complain about being overruled and at various points she got on board with the eventual decisions. There have been a couple of times where I've been outvoted, she said, and if there's a tie, he wins. Sounds like the, you know, description of the job she has.
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B
Sure.
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C
Anyway, they'll be buzzing about this all. All day, certainly. And all week.
- [32:43]
B
Yeah. It's interesting that she said that about her boss, though, about Donald.
- [32:51]
C
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I'm reminded that she grew up with an alcoholic father, the great sportscaster Pat Summerall.
- [32:58]
B
Oh, was, did Pat Cimmeral get sober at some point or was he drinking clear up to the end?
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C
I remember late in his career, you remember the infamous super bowl clip.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Michael, do we still have that?
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B
That was just being old, though, wasn't it? I'd have to look at. There are games where people believe he was drunk, though, where he sounded drunk.
- [33:23]
C
Yeah. Well, hey, you're watching a football game. You have a couple of beers. Do the math.
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B
Most of your viewers are drunk.
- [33:28]
C
We are all drunk together. You're going to be a judge. Put on a robe. Right. Anyway, that's enough of that.
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B
Okay, that's interesting. I want to tell you a little bit where we are in the Ukraine, Russia peace deal thingy. The latest from the New York Times can tell you about that right after this. More good news from Omaha Steaks. Man, you need to get on board. What a great gift. A gift you can eat.
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C
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Yeah. So you want to shop Omaha steaks.com plus our listeners get an extra 35 off with the Code Armstrong at checkout. So now is a particularly good time.
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B
So according to the New York Times, the negotiations that went on all weekend and then including yesterday with Zelensky, European leaders, and even Trump getting on the phone at various times to get involved in the meeting. The United States, Ukraine and Europe have agreed on a NATO like guarantee for the security of Ukraine. That is unbelievable. I can't believe this isn't bigger news. Two US Officials said yesterday as they tried to come up with a peace proposal that would deter future aggression and still satisfy Russia. Now, they haven't agreed on the whole land thing. Zelensky doesn't want to give up some chunks of land. Trump says, look, they're going to take the land eventually anyway. You should give it up. I don't know how they're going to work that out, but to me, the bigger thing is we're involved in a security guarantee like we'll go to war with Russia if they invade again. We're just going to have that on paper.
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C
That's something that's got to be a Senate ratified treaty, doesn't it?
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B
The United States, Ukraine and Europe have agreed on a NATO like. I have no idea. I don't, I don't know enough about that. But many European countries have said they will put troops in there. I don't know that we're going to put troops in there, but if we're signed on to some sort of agreement that if Russia go comes back again, we're in.
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A
Wow.
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C
Where does an agreement end in a treaty begin and Senate ratification become necessary?
- [36:16]
B
I don't know. Yeah, I have no idea. If I was President Zelensky, I'd want to look into that, make sure it's an agreement that holds.
- [36:24]
C
Yeah, agreed. Of course, we might be, you know, true, the, the Euros might be saying, we'll throw troops in and we're just saying, yeah, we'll absolutely give you all the arms and whatever.
- [36:35]
B
But I suppose it could be if, for instance, France, Germany and Great Britain are going to have troops in Ukraine and if they were attacked, I suppose our NATO guarantee kicks in at that point. Maybe. I mean, German NATO, lots of NATO troops are being attacked.
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C
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, it's funny, I don't think I printed it, but one of our beloved listeners, one of you clever folks, said NATO just needs to invade Ukraine under some idiotic pretext with Zelensky's permission, have troops all over the place and then say, yeah, yeah, we invaded better than you did. It's ours now and wait for the dust to settle.
- [37:15]
B
Wow, what an interesting idea. NATO invades Ukraine, takes Kiev using my finger quotes.
- [37:20]
C
Right.
- [37:21]
B
But lets them just operate as they've been operating. But.
- [37:24]
C
And Instead of fighting tooth and nail, the Ukrainians would say, yeah, you need to go to the stop sign and take a left. And that's where they would help.
- [37:31]
B
And NATO would just say, this is NATO territory, right?
- [37:34]
C
Or our troops are here. Attack on one is an attack on all, so you gotta stop attacking.
- [37:39]
B
Wow. I don't know where this is going. Pretty interesting though. We got Mailbag coming up and lots of stuff. Stay here.
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C
Armstrong and Getty.
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B
Shh.
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A
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Want to know how to become the.
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Richest person in the world?
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B
Start with the latest episode of our podcast, Good Bad Billionaire. We're telling the story of how each Elon Musk amassed half a trillion dollars.
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From his troubled childhood in South Africa.
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B
To buying Twitter and launching rockets into space.
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With all the boardroom dramas along the.
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Way, find out how he did it on Good Bad billionaire.
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Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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This is where mindset comes in.
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B
So raising money for the scouts this week. Gonna do a big pitch next hour. I'll explain what I've seen with my own eyeballs in terms of young men in particularly. That's just been my experience with the boys of what it has done for their maturity and leadership skills and everything. It's just mind blowing to me. And we're raising money this week. If you want to donate now before you even hear the smoke the spiel, you can go To Armstrong and getty.com we've made it super easy. We're trying to raise a hundred thousand dollars this week. More on that later.
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C
Here's your freedom loving quote of the day from the great Tennessee Williams, founder of the state of Tennessee. Not really. If you want to really make people angry, you can do two things. Obtain happiness or tell the truth.
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B
I went on a big Tennessee Williams kick a couple of years ago, took in everything he'd ever done and fascinating dude. And of course, Streetcar Named Desire is his deal. Yeah, yeah.
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C
Best known, his greatest hit. Mailbag drops a note. Mailbag@armstrongygetti.com Here it is. Billy and Marina Del Rey. Just thought of a simple solution to the Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine problem. NATO or the EU should just invade Ukraine over some silly issue. Ukraine then surrenders to NATO or the eu. NATO, EU then refuses to remove whatever military stuff they brought into Ukraine. You're a thing. You're an innovator, Billy.
- [41:51]
B
I like the aggressiveness of it. So far, everything dealing with Russia has been like back footed shrinking, hoping they won't go further. And that has not worked over the last decade.
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C
Somebody needs to say it, blah blah.
- [42:05]
B
Blah, yada yada yada.
- [42:06]
C
World War three Ryan from Houston writes, I don't need a troll president. What President Trump wrote about Rob Reiner is undefendable. Yeah, there's tons of tds and if Trump died by whatever manner, there'd be champagne popping from coast to coast. But that doesn't make Trump the good guy here.
- [42:26]
B
You know what's wild? This is obvious, but I didn't think about it until they pointed it out on one of those news shows I was watching this morning.
- [42:35]
C
The guy got shot.
- [42:38]
B
The whole, you know, everything's changed. Trump's got a different outlook on life since he got shot. Apparently not. He got shot. He's been on the other end of political violence Unit. He's still willing to say stuff like that. Wow.
- [42:50]
C
Now I'm done with the troll president. Hope that soon we can have a president of the United States. But I'm more likely to win the Powerball tomorrow. While Marshall Phillips does his 10th push up. And Jack says something nice about Dominic. That's ryan from Houston.
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B
P.S.
- [43:03]
C
Jack, smart glasses. Just another step to old fancy Jack. That's been Ryan's theme of late. Old simple Jack is old fancy Jack.
- [43:12]
B
But on the Trump thing. So, I mean, I don't quite get the. Yeah, like I said, going back to his comment on John McCain, he says awful, horrible things. I think there's something wrong with his personality.
- [43:24]
C
Yes.
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B
And I would rather he was president than the alternative.
- [43:30]
C
The alternative we was.
- [43:31]
B
We were giving. We're given. We weren't given Ron DeSantis as a choice.
- [43:36]
C
Yeah, right. So true. BHJ writes on the Aussie hero. Still trying to figure out how he was able to close the distance on the shooter so quickly while carrying such a huge set of balls between his legs.
- [43:49]
B
Wow.
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C
That is frank talk, but a tribute to the man's incredible courage. Good for you, sir. Well done. You're a real hero. JB in Florida says, I don't know how you can do what you do day after day, five days a week. If I get overwhelmed by any of the topics you're discussing, I can just turn off the radio. But you guys have to keep trudging through the never ending bad news from around the world. He goes into, the older you get, the less tolerance you have for the daily drama. And then he suggests that we just do Monday through Thursday and have Michael play Best of shows on Friday. Sure. Your listeners would rather have you four days a week than not at all due to burnout. You're a very perceptive person, JB.
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B
That's the old 1980s Johnny Carson schedule that he did later in his career. I think actually he took Mondays and Fridays off. He worked the grueling three day work week.
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C
Yeah. I don't mind telling people I lobbied that. This contract that we're working under right now, we do a three hour show and not a four hour show.
- [44:48]
B
It's.
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C
It's a lot. And burnout is not. Well, it's a real thing. But I was persuaded.
- [44:57]
B
We don't, we don't have to talk about all the nastiness of the world, though. Nobody makes us.
- [45:02]
C
No, no, it's just. No, it's, It's. Well, as David Letterman said many, many, many years ago, and it made an impression on both of us. He said, I've been doing this for 14 years. You can do that math. And I still feel like there's a page of the directions missing. Anyway, I can relate. We don't have time for this, but Tom, who is a National Guardsman, was extremely offended by our conversation about the National Guard. I think there may have been a bit of a misinterpretation. Tom, what we were trying to say is we don't think most people think of the National Guard in terms of foreign deployment. Well, my.
- [45:39]
B
My brother was in the Guard for years. Could tell me what the guy was angry about, because I'm more than willing to stand up for the Guard, having had a family member who did it for a long time.
- [45:46]
C
Yeah, we don't have time in 30 seconds to lay it out, then respond to it, but we can. We absolutely can, because it's a good topic. Let's see. And then Mike from Petaluma interviewing a bunch of folks for the company. His company hiring manager, season Eagle scout says, oh, interesting guy. Got the job. Tell your boys this story for what it's worth.
- [46:07]
B
No, that's a good one. We are raising money for scouting. We'll explain that in hour two. If you don't get our two or miss a second, we get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. It's easy to find.
- [46:17]
C
Armstrong and Getty.
- [46:23]
B
Shh.
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A
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I am Nina Khrushcheva, the great granddaughter.
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Of Nikita Khrushchev, the leader of the Soviet Union in 1962. And I'm Max Kennedy, the nephew of US President John F. Kennedy. We explore what was a terrifying moment in history. The story of the Cuban Missile crisis, how close the world came to nuclear war, and what they had to do to pull it back from the brink. The bomb. Kennedy and Khrushchev. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract worth $250,000.
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This is where mindset comes in.
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Someone will be eliminated. Pressure is coming down.
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Trainer games on Prime Video January 8th. Watch the trailer on trainergames.com Season 2.
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Guaranteed Human.