Practical Things

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "Practical Things" (June 10, 2026)

Podcast Summary

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand centers on practical challenges facing everyday Americans, with a major focus on the impact of artificial intelligence on jobs, productivity, and society, plus a lengthy, candid interview with Steve Hilton, a gubernatorial candidate in California. The hosts, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, weave in their trademark skepticism and wit as they break down current events in tech, politics, and culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Apple’s New AI-Powered Siri & Skepticism (02:56–04:16)

• Theme: Apple’s latest AI-powered Siri announcement and its underwhelming reality.
• Discussion: The hosts parody the "helpfulness" of virtual assistants, lampooning how attempts at convenience can be intrusive and inefficient.
  • Jack Armstrong (03:04): "Oh, I don't need the whole AI spiel. Just please, just text her."
  • Joe Getty (03:59): "Yep, we made it worse."
• Insight: The user experience of AI still falls short of expectations; people crave simple, straightforward tech.

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2. How Will AI Affect Jobs and Society? Economist Predictions (04:16–14:27)

• Theme: Reviewing a Wall Street Journal project in which 16 top economists were asked about AI's effect on the job market.
• Key questions discussed:
  • Will AI cause net job losses or growth?
  • Will AI widen or narrow income inequality?
  • Which workers are at most risk or benefit?
  • How should people prepare for workplace changes?
• Notable statistics & expert quotes:
  • On net change of jobs:
    • 8 said “no change,” 5 “net loss,” 2 “net growth” (05:49)
    • Jack Armstrong (06:03): "So the biggest thing that's ever happened happens and there's no change."
  • On disruption and political fallout:
    • Joe Getty, quoting Rebecca Henderson of Harvard (06:35): "If this is as much of a disruption as I expect, the workers end up getting very, very angry and changing the politics."
  • On labor productivity:
    • 15 out of 16 say “yes” to greater productivity—but that’s cold comfort if jobs disappear (07:17)
    • Jack Armstrong (07:32): "How about will there be any jobs for anybody?"
  • On who benefits or loses:
    • White collar jobs, especially those involving routine information-processing, are most at risk (10:51)
    • Joe Getty (10:53): "I now know what blue collar workers felt like in the 1970s."
  • On income inequality:
    • Most say it will widen (11:32)
• Analysis: The hosts note a lack of consensus or confidence even among the nation’s top economists—everything from “no change” to “total disruption” gets an endorsement.
  • Jack Armstrong (12:51): "I do know for a fact the smartest people in the world on AI are often 180 degrees apart on this—will doom the world and humanity versus it is never actually even going to happen and everything in between."
• Takeaway: Nobody—not even the experts—really knows how AI will reshape work or society, only that big change is likely and disruption is happening fast.

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3. Medical Chatbots & Practical AI (18:53–23:13)

• Theme: Joe Getty recounts using Claude, an AI chatbot, for a chronic throat condition unsolved by doctors.
• Highlights:
  • Joe Getty (19:25): "I will read you precisely what I told Claude… 'Any ideas?'"
  • Claude immediately suggests hyoid bone syndrome, which matches the symptoms and prompts a referral to a specialized ENT.
  • Joe Getty (22:08): "It did all the research the medical world has the capacity to do in the space of two and a half seconds."
• Analysis: The hosts acknowledge AI's strengths—rapid, wide-ranging analysis—while noting it lacks physical examination and the entanglements of the medical system (cost, insurance, gatekeeping).
• Broader Point: For both medical and workplace problems, AI can be powerfully diagnostic and practical, but only in the details—its biggest impact is still unknowable.

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4. Interview: Steve Hilton Talks California Gubernatorial Run (26:08–40:21)

• Theme: Steve Hilton, British-born American political commentator, lays out his reform platform for California.
• Major points:
  • Hilton paints his opponent, Javier Becerra, as the ultimate “establishment nonentity”:
    Steve Hilton (27:49): "He's an idiot. He's a 'joke.' … This is the guy who was rejected by the Biden cabinet for being too incompetent…"
  • California’s structural issues:
    • Highest cost of living, unemployment, poverty
    • "A system that can’t count votes, can’t build a train after 10 years and billions of dollars, can’t clear the homeless after $24 billion spent" (26:08)
  • Practical platform proposals:
    • “Your first $100k tax free, $3 cash, cut your electric bills in half, a home you can afford to buy… Just common sense, practical things.” (29:28)
    • “Put a cap on developer impact fees, simplify building codes, open up land for development—let people buy homes.” (35:20)
  • On breaking the Democratic ‘machine’:
    • Details ballot harvesting, diversion of tax dollars to activist groups, and plans to counter the efforts structurally, not just rhetorically (32:56)
  • On overcoming partisanship and winning in a blue state:
    • If every Trump voter in the presidential cycle turned out, “I would win with hundreds of thousands of votes to spare” (38:00)
    • Steve Hilton (38:53): "If we get up off our knees and fight for the state that we love … we can change it this year if we all show up and vote."
• Hosts’ Reactions:
  • Jack Armstrong (29:41): "Calling him a predictable establishment non entity, that is very accurate."
  • Joe Getty (40:13): "And the real battle has just begun. Steve Hilton is ready for it, clearly."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the limits of AI assistants:
  • Jack Armstrong (03:52): "Forget it. I. I don't need you. I'm done texting Lisa."
• On what nobody knows about AI:
  • Joe Getty (10:16): "You don't even know what Frankenstein's monster looks like."
• On the AI/Job Anxiety:
  • Joe Getty (10:53): "I now know what blue collar workers felt like in the 1970s."
• On ballot-harvesting and machine politics:
  • Steve Hilton (32:56): "We've published these fraud reports ... hundreds of nonprofits doing things like voter registration and ballot harvesting."
• On practical political change:
  • Steve Hilton (38:53): "If we get up off our knees and fight for the state that we love … we can change it this year if we all show up and vote."
• A punchy closer on California’s future:
  • Steve Hilton (40:05): "We pay the highest taxes in the country. We get the worst results… Just leave us alone, okay?"

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time (MM:SS) | Segment | |------------------|-------------| | 02:56–04:16 | Apple’s AI-powered Siri spoof & skepticism | | 04:16–14:27 | How will AI affect jobs and society – economist panel | | 18:53–23:13 | Joe’s AI medical chatbot story | | 26:08–40:21 | Steve Hilton interview: California politics, reform, and campaign strategy |

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Tone & Style

The episode combines skeptical humor, policy analysis, and real-world anxieties about technology and politics. Armstrong & Getty maintain a conversational, banter-filled style—critical of platitudes ("blah, blah, blah") and unafraid to challenge expert opinion or the status quo.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode tackles two of today's most "practical" challenges: preparing for rapid AI-driven change and fixing dysfunctional government. Through sharply observed commentary and a high-energy political interview, Armstrong & Getty inform as much as they entertain—offering listeners both a dose of comic relief and an urgent call to personal agency, whether dealing with Siri, the job market, or the California ballot box.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong And Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Well, some business news. Yesterday was Tim Cook's final product announcement as Apple CEO. Yeah. And his big reveal was an AI powered Siri. I'm not sure it's such a great idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Take a look at this.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

You want to send a text to Lisa?

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It sounds like you're dialed in on the problem and you're ready to execute. I'm ready to dive in on the Lisa text whenever you're ready.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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Let me know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Forget it. I. I don't need you. I'm done texting Lisa.

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I don't need you. I'm done.

[Joe Getty]

Yep, we made it worse.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, what a great punchline. Oh, I like the tag. Siri. Yep, we made it worse. That is true though. That's the thing I hate about it. Just quit with the fawning. This and that. Just give me the answer or do what I ask you to do.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's the summer saying the new series underwhelming and Apple stock dropped. I haven't tried it. I don't know. No, I don't know either. Don't tend to trust those things. Speaking of AI, at some point I had to pay off my. My medical breakthrough thanks to a chatbot. Not that you want to hear about my minor medical problems, but it really is interesting. And yes, doctors who are listening. I realize you can misdiagnose using chatbots, but I thought this is super interesting. The Wall street journal got together 16 well known respected economists to ask them how AI will change the job market and how humans ought to prepare. And you know, the introduction. Do I even need the introduction? It's one of the most pressing questions facing the U.S. economy today. Companies pouring unthinkable amounts of money in data centers, rolling out AI tools, rethinking what workers they need. Americans are anxious and excited about the developments. Blah, blah, blah. So they asked a bunch of questions to these folks. What AI? That's a poor start. The first damn word. I mean, is there any point in continuing. Let's go with will, will AI lead to net job losses or job growth across the economy? Job losses or job growth? 8 response or obviously no change was one of the options. No change said eight of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Out of how many again?

[Joe Getty]

16. 16.

[Jack Armstrong]

So half said no change. That seems like a cop out answer.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I think when you dig into the answers, it's, it'll grow over here and shrink over there, but not significant change. But I agree with you. I'm like no change what? Net loss to net growth is 5 to 2.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the biggest thing that's ever happened happens and there's no change.

[Joe Getty]

I just find that hard to believe. Yeah, yeah. But those who were willing to hazard a guess it was five to loss over gain. What does history suggest will happen to workers displaced by AI and you had a nice variety of well, they'll learn similar jobs or they're actually be more productive and blah blah, blah or they'll switch. But I liked this one from Rebecca Henderson, who's a professor at Harvard Business School. I read the history of suggesting that if this is as much of a disruption as I expect, the workers end up getting very, very angry and changing the politics. Of course. I have no idea. I don't think we've ever really seen anything moving with this scale and speed before. It's going to be a wild ride. Yes, 100% indeed. The scale and the speed is a hundred times faster than the Industrial Revolution anyway, so nobody's really sure it'll vary on who you are. Will AI meaningfully bolster labor productivity 15 to 0? Yes. Number 16 apparently couldn't be bothered to answer because

[Jack Armstrong]

reasonable question. But man, when the super rich start talking about it will be have more productivity. Okay, that's not really the question I'm answering for my kids is whether the country is going to be we're already the number one economic engine in the world. We'll be more productive.

[Joe Getty]

Fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

How about will there be any jobs for anybody?

[Joe Getty]

That's the question. And how will the wealth be concentrated? Which is something we've talked about at fair length. Is AI already impacting the labor market? And how about in five years? Really interesting answers. Too long to get into fully. But like this fellow who's a University of Toronto School of Management professor, we are currently in the between times. We see the potential of AI but our organizational systems haven't fully adjusted. Over the next five to 10 years, at least one leading company in each market will likely figure out how to transition to a system solution that is much more productive. For example, instead of an insurer simply paying out after an accident to the extent that they do bastards. They may shift their value proposition from repair and replace to predict and prevent. The labor impact will shift from doing things faster to doing different things, requiring a significant reorganization of human roles. I think that's a good and a smart answer.

[Jack Armstrong]

A significant reorganization of human roles.

[Joe Getty]

Yikes. Yipes is right. And in the blink of an eye. Yeah. Jason Furman, who you may know, he was on the White House Council of Economic Advisors, I think, in the Obama years, says we're currently seeing little or no impact of AI on the labor market. You can't say no impact. That's not true. But so far it's not much. Let's get to the.

[Jack Armstrong]

These guys are all smarter. And women. I assume there's women economists.

[Joe Getty]

There are.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're all smarter than me. But to say no impact so far. So yada yada, yada. Come on.

[Joe Getty]

It is absolutely worth. Every time you quote a professor of any sort, it's worth mentioning the ivory tower filter. How they think they perceive the real world based on their studies and their surveys and their mathematicians skills. They don't. They don't live with us.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was going to say at the beginning, but I want to take the fun out of this is economists are often wrong. And this is the most you have to guess sort of story I can ever remember in talking about the economy. The economy. This isn't oil or wheat or something where we have decades of an idea of this or that, we have no idea when or what. None. So I mean, they are really, really guessing. And then for some, for purposes, we haven't seen much change. Okay, well, you know, maybe that's true, but so what? Did you see any of those graduation speeches where anybody mentioned AI and everyone boo. Yeah. So it's had some effect on people.

[Joe Getty]

And not only, as we've discussed, are we going to have to deal with the dizzying pace of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

But nobody knows what it is. Yeah, exactly.

[Joe Getty]

We don't know, like developments in agriculture or the use of internal combustion engines or stuff like that. You could extrapolate their adoption across an industry pretty easily. This. You don't even know what Frankenstein's monster looks like. Anyway. I like this one though. What kind of workers are most. Well, I liked it and I hated it. What kind of workers are most likely to benefit from or be hurt by the spread of AI? And this one guy from the University of Michigan says, I Think of AI as doing cognitive work. So this is a revolution coming squarely at white collar workers. I now know what blue collar workers felt like in the 1970s.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

And several of them hit things you've heard before. Routine information processing rules like adjusting insurance claims, translating documents, writing standard ad copy. Face genuine displacement risk. Let's see a couple more. Will AI widen or narrow income inequality between highly educated and less educated workers? Widen? 17 to 5. Really no change. Were 2 but only 7 to 5. I think I am on the widen side.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well if it's going to hit college graduates, white collar workers more and they don't have jobs, why aren't, why aren't their salaries going to come back down closer to blue collar workers?

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

AI discussions like this, but I do know for a fact because I've read it. I've listened to the podcasts. The smartest people in the world on AI are often 180 degrees apart on this will doom the world and humanity versus it is never actually even going to happen and everything in between. So that's quite a wide range. It will end humankind or it's never going to get going with AGI. That'll never happen.

[Joe Getty]

And so at the risk of making you angry at me, all of you, one of the reasons I brought this story to you is precisely what Jack just said. They get to you. Remember our white collar job discussion of roughly two and a half minutes ago? Here's a question. Will AI adoption significantly reduce or expand demand for white collar jobs? Reduce. Five, no change. Six. Expand. Three. No consensus. Nothing. Even approaching a consensus. Leaning slightly toward reduce.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they're guessing on their answers? Yeah, I mean, everything's a guess when you're an economist. But I mean, really guessing.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. How should people repair? Not repair, prepare. How should people prepare? Own stock in an AI company. Kidding. Says the Michigan guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Canned goods, weapons.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely no consensus on that either. Choose a field you have genuine passion for and get ready for change.

[Jack Armstrong]

So SpaceX is about to go IPO and so is chat and didn't Anthropic announce it too? So.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

OpenAI.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was reading some of the stuff that Elon's planning to do with SpaceX and I thought, God, I got to invest in that. You know, I know lots and lots and lots of people are thinking that, but man, his plan to like very, very soon put these AI data centers in space that will be multiples more powerful than anything on earth for all kinds of reasons. We can explain it. It just wow. It's a, it's, it is some forward thinking man.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, and I wish I'd signed on to SpaceX in the early days and not this dead end job. Everybody who works there is going to become super rich and it's only been

[Jack Armstrong]

around for what, a dozen years. I saw the picture the other day of him and like the 10 people that started it in 2012. That's how old that company is. 10 people and him standing in the hallway officially starting SpaceX today.

[Joe Getty]

We ought to build some rockets and

[Jack Armstrong]

it might make him a trillionaire by next year. Talking to Steve Hilton at the bottom of this hour, we got a lot of other stuff coming up to stay here.

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And there can't be enough derision poured on California's ridiculous, prone to fraud, and certainly the perception of fraud voting systems. So I mentioned this briefly with the following disclaimer. Blah, blah, blah. Consult your doctors, have a zoo. It may be wrong. Zap, who cares? I've got this physical problem right now. Whenever I undress, women can't stay away from me. No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are you gonna tell us what it is or is it a secret?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no, I. I will read you precisely what I told Claude. I have what I would describe as a sore throat, but it's not a typical sore throat. The pain is tenderness right above my Adam's apple. It's sensitive to pressure from the outside. My throat is not inflamed. I get this semi regularly, have for at least 15 years. Any ideas?

[Jack Armstrong]

15 years?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, at least.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you've seen doctors about this?

[Joe Getty]

I have and they have said, well, that's weird. Here's some antibiotics.

[Jack Armstrong]

It probably comes up that you talk four hours for a living and stuff like that.

[Joe Getty]

I have mentioned that, but they look at my vocal cords and say, a little inflamed, but not much. Here's an antibiotic anyway. Get out of here. Hit the brakes. We got a guy with a wet cough in the waiting room. We got to get him out of there. He's sickening everybody. But what you're describing it answers is pretty distinctive and describes what I described, points toward a few more specific possibilities. The most likely candidates are hyoid bone syndrome. The hyoid is a small horseshoe shaped bone sitting right above the larynx. It can develop bursitis or irritation of the surrounding tendons and ligaments, causing exactly the kind of external point tenderness you describe. It's often triggered by talking a lot and worth knowing because of my hobbies, when I'm not talking, I'm singing, swallowing repeatedly, or neck strain, then thyrohyoid muscle ligament strain. And that's almost certainly it. And it says you really need to go to an ENT that specializes in a laryngologist rather than general ENT who specializes in voice. They work with professional voice users routinely. So after all these years, and look, I'm not a whiner it hurts a lot. Like, it dominates my day. It's hard to focus on anything.

[Steve Hilton]

Your throat.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Wow. But like, externally, it's like I got punched in the throat, which are frequently threatening for various offenses. And you've had that for 15 years. Yeah. And I just. After a while I just thought, well, nobody can do anything about it, so I'll just take some Tylenol and deal with it. It's really bad this time. So, anyway, again, you know, utilize some caution, but if you can be very specific about weird, mysterious medical issue. These things are amazing. And that Claude is not under pressure to see 24 patients, you know, after lunchtime and, you know, has the limitations of human beings and the ability to do research. I mean, it did all the research the medical world has the capacity to do.

[Steve Hilton]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

In the space of two and a half seconds.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

It didn't examine me. I understand that. I'm not a fool. But. But it nailed it. I'm sure it nailed it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. That's interesting. Specialists are a thing too. I learned that with my cancer thing back in the day. Specialist can, you know, you see your doctor. And that's a tough job, that general practitioner, because you just got the whole body and everything and all these different ages, different problems, different. All this sort of stuff. And specialists obviously specialize in one tiny little specific thing. But first time I get sent to a specialist, he's like, you don't have that at all. And within five minutes told me,

[Joe Getty]

sorry, I'm not supposed to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably was a life saving decision that, seeing that specialist. But yeah, they, they, they are good. Not easy to see, though. That's the other thing that Claude doesn't have, is the whole insurance. Who's paying for this? We're not gonna, you know, send you to the specialist because it costs too much money. Fang going, right.

[Joe Getty]

So I'm probably gonna see somebody in nine months at the Mayo Clinic, which is many miles away, but it's. It's better than nothing. Yeah, yeah. What was I gonna say? I had something else. Yeah. Probably doesn't matter.

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Steve Hilton]

Oh.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, now I remember what I was gonna say. You're absolutely right about general practitioners, and I. I admire them so much. It's our job. And I appreciate the good ones. That's why I've always thought veterinarians are amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Because they've got all that in a

[Jack Armstrong]

bunch of different species that can't talk.

[Steve Hilton]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you can't ask it, what brings you in here today?

[Joe Getty]

You can't say, lift up the tail and give it the old how's your uncle? You can't say to a horse what

[Jack Armstrong]

brings you in here today?

[Joe Getty]

Well, my hoof is kind of sore.

[Jack Armstrong]

Steve Hilton. Is he going to be the next governor? The question is, are Californians disgusted enough to try something different? They tried it with Arnold. Will they try it with Steve? We're going to talk to him coming up next.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and getty

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[Parent]

with my mom and dad living in Orange county, when we bring my five and seven year old to visit, we are sometimes in for a two hour drive that could feel like 10.

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[Steve Hilton]

It's the same system that can't count votes, that can't build a train after 10 years and billions of dollars that can't clear the homeless after 24 billions of dollars spent that can't get anything right.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, that message should resonate. That's Steve Hilton, who the California Post is very happy to see in the final two for governor of California. Their editorial board backing Steve Hilton, saying congratulations to the dynamic Steve Hilton for advancing to the general election in November. The Hilton Becerra matchup gives California voters the contest they deserve. A choice between change and the status quo. Now, Javier Becerra is going to mention that his highest qualification was being the secretary of the HHS under Biden. And he was so well respected. Joe Biden said the Javier Bakaria. That's how highly he ranked in Joe Biden's mind.

[Joe Getty]

The mainstream media usually introduces our guest as former Fox News host. I would prefer to announce him as aide to David Cameron, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, a businessman, a restaurant tour and a proud immigrant to the United States of America who happened to have a great show on Fox News for a little while, Steve Hilton. Steve, how you feeling?

[Steve Hilton]

Great. Good to be with you. Thank you. I like that intro. I'll take it. Thank you, guys.

[Jack Armstrong]

You think you feel it, use it. You think you can beat Javier Baquera, as Joe Biden called him?

[Steve Hilton]

I think I can beat the guy that. I mean, we don't really have the time to list all the insults that were leveled at him during his time there by his colleagues in the Biden administration.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, let's give it a good try.

[Steve Hilton]

Well, you know, they thought these are actual quotes. He's an idiot. He's a quote joke. It's like on and on. This is the guy who was rejected by the Biden cabinet for being too incompetent. I mean, what does that tell you? I mean, you've got to work very hard to be considered useless by that crew. And yet here we are. This is the guy that the Democrat machine has finally glommed onto to give us another four years of their disastrous rule that has given us the highest cost of living in the country, the highest unemployment rate, the highest poverty rate. Oh, great. More of the same, please. We love it. Let's keep going in that direction. No, thank you. It's really amazing that, the way that they assume that now that we're in this, you know, we got clarity about the race. It's Me versus Becerra. There's just this complete assumption that, well, that means he's the governor because of course that's what happens in California. I don't think they understand who they're dealing with here and what they're going to get from me and my campaign. Not just in holding them accountable for their utter failure on every front, for the fact that Becerra himself is this, you know, perfectly amiable, I got to be honest, perfectly amiable but completely unaccomplished establishment nonentity who's got literally nothing to offer California except more of the same as well as a positive plan for change. They're really practical things that are going to help people. Your first hundred grand tax free $3 cash, cut your electric bills in half a home you can afford to buy, cut your costs, help your business, fix our schools. Just common sense, practical things. We're crying out for that in California. And the last point I'll make, there's a majority for that in California. 57% of Californians think that the state's going in the wrong direction and needs change. And that's why I'm confident we can win in November.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man, calling him a predictable establishment non entity, that is very accurate.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, back when people spoke more fancily, they would refer to him as a mediocrity. So, Steve, enough softballs. I'm going to ask you the hard question. And we know California and California politics pretty well at this point. If you go up into the beautiful foothills and mountain areas, the more rural areas of California, you see Trump flags a flying. When you go into the deep blue cities, that name is anathema. And the left is trying desperately to turn you into some sort of leading MAGA character. How are you gonn with that challenge? Having received the President's endorsement, I'm proud

[Steve Hilton]

to have the President's endorsement. And I think it's just really important to focus on what that means, as the President himself has been saying that that when I'm elected governor, you're going to have someone who will work with the President and his team to bring practical benefits to California, whether that's lowering gas prices by opening up energy production in our state, which he wants to do, his team wants to do, I want to do. But Gavin Newsom is fighting that. It's one of the reasons we have the highest gas prices in the country, because we're importing oil from halfway around the world instead of getting it from right here in California. Fraud in our health care system in California, rampant billions of Dollars of fraud. The vice president and his broad task force trying to root that out so we can cut the spending and cut taxes. They don't want to do that. They're resisting that. All of these examples where we can have forest management is another example where the president and his team, Doug Burgam in Interior. And remember, I know it's not just the president. I've got good relationships with half a cabinet. Brooke Rollins in Agriculture. But let's talk about forest management. They got a very sensible plan and an executive order to manage our forest better. And what's Gavin Youssef doing just blocking it? Every single thing that the administration is doing to try and help California in practical ways, you've got a governor right now that's doing the opposite and blocking it and fighting it and bragging about suing them. And they see that as the measure of success. How many lawsuits they can file against the Trump administration. I think people are going to really get tired of this. I think we just got to tell the truth about this stuff. And because they've got a record that is literally indefensible. Right. They cannot defend the record and they've got nothing new to say. Becerra was on CNN the other week and asked that simple question that completely stumped Kamala Harris. And when she was running for president, is there anything you'd have done differently? And Becerra had the same ridiculous answer. Oh, I can't think of anything. Oh, it can't be that bad in California because people come to Disneyland a lot. That's what he said.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, he is a joke.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, you mentioned the Democratic machine earlier and it reminded me National Review headline, after the LA mayor result came, the machine wins. Yeah. Is there anything to learn from for you running statewide that as bad as things are in la, they weren't bad enough for people to not think, you know what, we'll either stick with the current mayor or go with a communist. How do you break through the machine? Politics.

[Steve Hilton]

We build our own and make it work better. And specifically ballot harvesting. That's how they do this. They get the activist group. This is what they've done for years. I mean, we've been documenting this through my campaign, where we published these fraud reports. And this is what you're seeing now. This is when it comes into play. So we've been showing, for example, the very first fraud report we did earlier this year, the cannabis tax, Prop 64, there was a tax on that was supposed to fund substance abuse prevention. When we legalized cannabis in California, we found $350 million of that siphoned off into Democrat political activity. Funding hundreds of nonprofits doing things like voter registration and ballot harvesting. Same from the fund that was supposed to put in low income apartment solar panels. $100 million a year over 10 years. That's a $1 billion. We found that 72 million went to that 928 million. Most of it went to this Democrat political activity. Do you remember the fire aid money? That's where that money went from the LA fires to these activist groups. Another example, Churner, the immigrant rights group, the far left extremist group there that has an office in Mexico that is actually helping illegal immigrants come to the country. That is an organization 85% funded by taxpayers. In California. It was an integral part of the riots against ICE a year ago. What do they do? They take that money and use it for ballot harvesting. Often paying in their own reporting, paying illegal immigrants to do the work with our money. This is the machine that's been built over years and it comes into play at election time. We've got to build our own. That's why this campaign that I'm running is going to be very, very different to anything you've seen before because I'm very clear about what needs to be done. And we are not going to let them get away with it anymore because we desperately need change in this state and we're not going to let this machine roll over us one more time.

[Joe Getty]

This year we're talking to the next governor of Cal, Unicornia, God willing, Steve Hilton. Hey Steve, whether it's California or anywhere else, what is the government's role in the cost of housing? And since it is God awful in California, what could a governor's administration do to help ease that brutal expense for people?

[Steve Hilton]

Well, the simplest thing. Just as in so many areas of the high cost of living, the highest in the country, in California, the quickest way to get money into people's pockets is to stop taking so much out. So one of the most direct ways is to cap what they call impact fees. These are developer impact fees. Basically they're a tax on housing. So when housing gets built, the developer pays these fees. There used to be just a few grand per unit. Now it's up to 20% of the cost of a new home is taxes paid by the house builder. Of course, then they're passed on to the house buyer so we can put a cap on that. Secondly, the codes, the building codes are insanely complicated. In California they make it two or three times as expensive. To build the exact same building in California as in neighboring states that's under the direct control of the governor. We can simplify those codes and reduce the cost. That's before you even get into longer term changes, like ending this insane density argument where all they ever want to let you build is, you know, they put apartment buildings in suburban areas. We can open up land for development and build outwards, not upwards, so we can restore that dream of a single family home that you can afford to buy. So there are some longer term changes we can make, but in the short term, just stop taxing housing so much.

[Jack Armstrong]

How do you think you need to win? Because like, we're on a lot of stations in California, all the big cities and then a lot of smaller ones and. But I'm guessing most of our listeners would tend to vote for you or whoever the Republican candidate was going to be anyway. How do you reach those Democrats who are sick of taxes or the dumb bullet trainer, drug addicts everywhere or whatever it is. How are you going to reach those people?

[Steve Hilton]

Well, the first point actually is not to make the assumption you've just made. That's the truth, is that most of the people who voted in the presidential year for President Trump in California would not vote in a midterm year. But if they did, if they did vote, then I would. I just want to give you the numbers. If you look at a projection of how many votes will be cast in the general election this year in California, just based on the average of the last two midterm years, 2018 and 2022, you get a total of 11.7 million. If you just do the simple math, to win, you need 5.9 million votes, just over half of that in 2024. The number of people who voted for President Trump in California, 6.1 million. So if every single person who voted for President Trump votes for me, I'll be elected with hundreds of thousands of votes to spare.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's pretty interesting.

[Steve Hilton]

It starts with making sure that you don't take it for granted and just turning out the Republican votes. That's the starting point. If we got 100% of the presidential year turnout, then I would win without even thinking about converting new people. Now, you're not going to get 100%. That's unrealistic. But the reason I mention that is that that's the starting point for a campaign. So everybody listening? If you vote. Fantastic. Thank you. That's great. But now your job is to get 10 other people who you know, who are your friends, who you know are Republicans and say, don't just sit this one out. Make sure you vote as well. If we all do it, then we can make it happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Interesting. That's, that's a, that's, that's a good point.

[Joe Getty]

And I would caution everybody against the. Well, you know, it's a Democratic state, so why bother? No, no. Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.

[Steve Hilton]

100%. That's the attitude. That's why I'm putting so much energy in this, into this campaign. I have already. You're going to see even more now because we've just got to. We can do this. If we get up off our knees and fight for the state that we love and say, no, enough of this insanity. We can't let it go down any further. It's a make or break for California. I really believe that. So many businesses in the last year have said to me, honestly, if you don't, you know, we're going to wait and see what happens in November. If you make it, we're good, but if you don't make it, we're out of here. And the exodus that we've seen of businesses is going to turn into a stampede. And California is heading for serious problems if we don't turn this around. But the good news is, and actually all you need is a common sense governor that gets government out of the way and provides the basics, you know, makes, you know, roads that work, schools that teach public safety, all these basic things instead of what they're doing now, which is totally failing on the basic responsibilities of government. Instead endlessly bossing us around, micromanaging us, telling us how to live our lives, run our businesses, raise our kids, what kind of car to drive, what kind of house to live in, how to cook our food in our house. We're done. Just leave us alone, okay? We pay the highest taxes in the country. We get the worst results. We. That is not a good deal. And we can change it this year if we all show up and vote.

[Joe Getty]

And the real battle has just begun. Steve Hilton is ready for it, clearly. Steve, good to talk to you. Stay in touch.

[Steve Hilton]

Of course. Great to be with you. Thank you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep, I like his strategy.

[Joe Getty]

How can that message not resonate? Well, it's because of either knee jerk. I vote Democrat, which is fine. And the entrenched interests who are getting those hundreds of, well, hundreds of millions. It's billions of dollars of government largesse. They're gonna vote to keep the money flowing. It's machine politics at its oldest and most time honored. But we, the people you, the people, everybody. You've got to stand up for your interests and get your friends to turn out. Oh boy, here we go. Well, we have several months.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of the lines is going to be let's elect the first Hispanic governor since 1875. So make it identity politics around Basera.

[Joe Getty]

How about a Brit? Javier Bakaria, first former Brit ever elected governor of California. As far as I know, people are

[Jack Armstrong]

betting on the Taylor Swift Travis Kelce wedding. There are all kinds of prop bets on that if you want to get involved.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Trump and company are trying to regulate those prediction markets. Could be tough.

[Jack Armstrong]

Interesting. And a lot of other stuff on the way. Stay here.

[Steve Hilton]

I don't think they understand who they're dealing with here and what they're going to get from me and my campaign. Not just in holding them accountable for their utter failure on every front. For the fact that Becerra himself is this, you know, perfectly amiable, I got to be honest. Perfectly amiable but completely unaccomplished establishment. Nonentity

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Parent]

with my mom and dad living in Orange county, when we bring my five and seven year old to visit, we are sometimes in for a two hour drive that could feel like 10.

Oh, as an avid camper, I know all about this. We'll pack up the RV and know this is either going to be the trip of a lifetime or a complete disaster.

Which is why we load up the iPads with Lingokids before we even pull out of the driveway.

It's what dreams are made of. Lingokids keeps kids engaged and quiet with over 4000 interactive games, songs and shows that kids simply cannot get enough of.

You can pack whatever you think you'll need, but Lingokids is the only entertainment you'll need for a stress free car ride.

Or really any ride, plane, train, hovercraft, whatever.

Download Lingokids for free today or unlock

even more amazing content with LingoKids.

Plus choose the yearly plan and save up to 60%. Search LingoKids in the App Store or

Google Play Lingokids everything kids love.

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[Jack Armstrong]

This is total non stop action.

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TNA Thursday Night Impact every week on AMC. For showtimes and more information, visit tna

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[Jack Armstrong]

Knicks fans are blaming Trump for the loss.

[Joe Getty]

On the bright side, for Trump, his approval rating in San Antonio is now

[Jack Armstrong]

100% so worked out for him there. Game 4 tonight, the NBA Finals.

[Joe Getty]

I expect fights.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't understand. I don't see how there could not be a fight. Maybe like after the tip off because there's been so much chirping about the best player on the spurs pushed the best player on the Knicks to the ground. It was the most egregious foul I've ever seen not called in an NBA game ever. There's lots of punching people or strangling them or various things that have happened over the decades in the NBA, but never one like this that didn't get called at all. And, and, and all your like ex NBA players are saying you can't let that go. You can't let the other team try to hurt your star player and not fight back. So I think there's going to be fights tonight.

[Joe Getty]

Did you see what former Knicks star Stefan Marbury said? He said he 13 years in the NBA, nine seasons in the Chinese Basketball association for Stefan. Anyway, he said Wemby is an international. They play dirty overseas. Just so you know, we're not used to playing dirty in America. The way Wemby just now threw Jason Jalen Brunson. Now if I'm watching film, I see Wemby throw somebody on my team. The next game I'm going to pop him in his rib cage so hard with my elbow that he's going to fall and drop to the ground. He's going to wish he never put his hands on me. Next game, I guarantee you, you better make sure you put that knife in his neck.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, back in the day that would have been a bench clearing brawl after Wemby threw him to the ground like that. But it's a different different league now and their fines are so high and everything like that. To Jalen Brunson's credit though, they lost and he said, nah, I, I don't blame the refs. We could have done this. We should have done that. Which was a really cool thing for the star to say.

[Joe Getty]

That is great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a manly thing to say, having

[Jack Armstrong]

been thrown to the ground. And then the 7 foot 5 inch Wembiana smiling at you like, how do you like that? That's hard to overlook.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not in favor of any knives to anybody's neck, but yeah. Oh, speaking of that, that troubling story out of Britain also next hour, the Southern Poverty Law center gets the comeuppance it is so richly deserved for so long in Congress yesterday. Oh, these highlights are great. Don't miss them. Cool.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we got a lot of good stuff on the way. And the war in Iran is a hot top. If you missed a segment of the podcast, Armstrong and Yeti on demand.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

mom, can I have Lingokids? Dad? Lingokids, please? When did we become the Lingokids house?

[Parent]

No idea.

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Why Lingokids?

[Steve Hilton]

Because it's the best thing ever.

[Jack Armstrong]

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