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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Armstrong and Getty. And now here, Armstrong and Yeti.
Joe Getty
We haven't mentioned near as much pure politics today as usual, which I've really, really, really enjoyed. But it, man, it ain't nothing that yesterday when Trump had one of his big cabinet meetings with all the cameras in there and everything like that, that Kristi Noem was sitting down there at the end of the table, never looked her way, never said a word to her. I mean, that's the biggest story in the country is what's going on in her department. And just it was as if she wasn't in the room, just sitting at.
Jack Armstrong
The end of the table with her collagen enhanced lips, trembling, trying to smile bravely through the tears. Yeah, she wasn't crying, but she was clearly chastened.
Joe Getty
Wonder what that felt like for her. I mean, she, she had to have lots of emotions going through her sitting there.
Jack Armstrong
Wow, she was riding crazy high just a couple weeks ago in Trump world.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Being powerful women. Yes.
Joe Getty
She, she gonna have a talk show on some channel or something like that. She's got the looks.
Jack Armstrong
Maybe a dog training show.
Joe Getty
No. Come on.
Jack Armstrong
Ah, it was easy, but it was fun.
Joe Getty
That wouldn't work because she once shot her dogs. I don't think you remember that story.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, that's right. It's strange. Oversight. Speaking of powerful women, Barry Weiss, who is now in charge of CBS News, unleashed her. Here's what we're gonna do. And I found it very, very intriguing. Can share some of that with you this hour?
Joe Getty
Yeah. I was surprised by something on CBS News last night. I thought I'd love to talk to Barry Weiss about this. For they were going through the, they were interviewing people who were US Citizens that ICE had harassed quite a bit. And I hate those stories. It's not good. I mean, people that, you know, have all their paperwork or are just flat out U.S. citizens and, you know, hauled in or made their lives, at least for the day, made quite miserable by ice. And I don't like those stories. But come on, Barry Weiss and CBS News, that's fine, but you also have to throw in, meanwhile, ICE has apprehended 1800, 2000, whatever the number is, violent illegals who were criminals. And they have to leave that out of the story, is to not do the story. And I don't think they've. I don't know. I don't know on the evening newscast if they've mentioned one time that they are apprehending bad people who shouldn't be in our country and doing this other stuff.
Jack Armstrong
Right. Yeah. Clearly the story is, well, you know what Peggy Noonan, who often cuts to the, the heart of things, has her column, she points out, look, ICE is doing what it's supposed to do. It's doing a lot of good stuff. But then it got too rough, too sloppy, too paramilitary, too ill trained and brutal and mean. And that's not what we want out of our authorities in the United States. That's not what we are. So maybe we'll get to that in a little bit as well. Plus Barry Weiss's wise words. But first, it's time to take fond look back at the week that was. It's cow clips of the week.
Protests erupt after another fatal shooting.
News Reporter/Correspondent
How many more Americans need to die?
Joe Getty
Many of us grew up reading that.
Jack Armstrong
Story of Anne Frank. Somebody's gonna write that children's story about.
Joe Getty
Minnesota, which is interesting. Grab some syringes with needles on the end, have them full of saline or.
Jack Armstrong
Succinylcholine, you know, whatever, whatever.
More demonstrators could potentially bring their own weapons. You see a man named appears to be Preddy and others on the scene shouting at agents who had been blocking an intersection on January 13th.
Joe Getty
Fuvino is now returning to be sector.
Jack Armstrong
Chief in El Centro.
Joe Getty
We are not surrendering.
Jack Armstrong
The president's mission in immigration.
News Reporter/Correspondent
Breaking news now just into our CNN newsroom.
Jack Armstrong
We are learning journalist, a former colleague of ours, former CNN anchor Don Lemon, has been taken into custody, arrested. It's clear that the far right in this country not accepted the results of the Civil War.
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Government Official/Spokesperson
Today we are producing more than 3 million pages, including more than 2,000 videos and 180,000 images in total. That means that the department produced approximately three and a half million pages in compliance with the act.
Jack Armstrong
Wildlife officials in San Francisco have captured a mountain lion that was spotted in recent days.
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Jack Armstrong
UPS announced it's slashing an additional 30,000 jobs. Amazon announced a new round of layoffs. Tik Tok settling a major social media.
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Lawsuit ahead of a landmark trial in Los Angeles County.
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Warning from Pope Leo about the dangers of artificial intelligence.
Jack Armstrong
Quote, affectionate chat bots, type A101 is 1600ft tall.
Alex Honnold climbe without ropes or a safety net. In just 90 minutes, the Seahawks soar.
To Super Bowl 60. Yay.
It's clips of the week.
Joe Getty
So was that hilarious climate change thing you had? Is that what it was? You had something hilarious I was looking for.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, yeah. The part of the taxpayer paid for scare the crap out of the kids about climate change curriculum in schools includes a cartoon rap song. We are working on the audio for that as we speak.
Joe Getty
Oh, cool. Anybody go to the Melania movie last night as it debuted in theaters?
Jack Armstrong
Oddly, my wife texted me about an hour ago. Is there a movie about Melania out?
Joe Getty
And you guys are going tonight? Gonna get dressed up, go out to eat, date night?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. She's gonna dress as Melania. I'm gonna dress as Trump.
Joe Getty
Just to make sure, you know, I mock all specials, movies, books, tributes, songs, interviews, anything covers with first ladies of all political stripes. I don't know why you're asking what the first lady thinks about anything. Personally, I just don't get it. That's not the way.
Jack Armstrong
I've got to admit to a mild curiosity about what life is like, particularly for a person like Melania. It's the White House, and the Inauguration Day, I guess, is a big focus of it.
Joe Getty
I don't know why they have a staff. I don't get it. Well, I do get it, actually. It's because we like royal families. Our tendency is toward royal families. And so we look at the husband and wife someday, the wife and husband, I suppose, the kids, everything. And treat them like they're a royal family, which is not what I want. I want the CEO of the country to be the president, part of one of three branches. And I don't know anything about Mike Johnson's wife. He's the speaker of the House. It's a very important thing Congress. I don't know about the spouses of anybody in the Supreme Court. That's obviously one of your big branches there.
Jack Armstrong
Looking at my pocket copy the Constitution, looking for first lady. First lady. Maybe that's in the First Amendment. I don't know. Yeah, I know.
Joe Getty
But as I pointed out, the mainstream media had a blockade basically on any Melania coverage first term. She didn't get her face on the COVID of any magazines even though she's a freaking beautiful model because they hate Trump so much. Whereas Michelle and Hillary and all those people you got on the covers of all the magazines with your new hairstyle or pearls are back, thanks to Michelle. Obama or whatever almost used the word.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, you do it. Do it.
Joe Getty
I was so close.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that. That Michelle worship was ex. Exactly. That word you're about to use. It's a compound word. It starts with bull. Anyway, you know your point about kings and queens, though sometimes I think it's interesting and enlightening. It actually reminds me of the thought that what your priorities are, are what you do. Don't tell me that your priorities are X and Y when you spend all your time doing Z, that's your priority. That, that, you know, snapped my eyelids open. I've looked at my own life in that way.
Joe Getty
Sure.
Jack Armstrong
In the same way. Sometimes you just have to say, okay, most or many, many societies, governments have been centered around a king and a queen. Never mind what you think about monarchy or democracy or anything like that, or the Magna Carta. Just think about that. Why is that? Because it's undeniably true. It's got to be that. That's mom and dad. We have an innate desire to have mom and dad in charge of our.
Joe Getty
Home, maybe of our country, maybe. You know, that whole priorities thing, because that was big to me to learn too. I don't remember where I read it. It was an economics thing, I think, but it was just basically, you know, it's pretty simple math really. It's just what are you spending all your time, money and interest on? And you can say the kids are most important thing in my family, but if you spend all your time working and watching sports, those are your priorities, no matter what you say about the kids. But for a lot of us, if you ended up at the end of the day and you looked at how many time you spent, who would ever say my priorities are scrolling Twitter. That's my second highest priority in my life, my kids and scrolling Twitter. I mean, who would ever even put that on the list? But I'll bet a lot of days it's what you spent second or third most time doing.
Jack Armstrong
Jack, you've brought us to our knees in shame and gratitude. Shame attude.
Joe Getty
And young people who they say like spend on average five hours a day on tick tock or whatever, would they say, yeah, my priority on life is scrolling TikTok. They might actually say that. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Well, they ground them and take away their phone, but that wouldn't be good. Yeah, yeah, think about that, friends. And you know, it's that we're not judging you. Hell, you should see my life. It's despicable. I loved hearing that. Like I said, it's really? It's opened my eyes in some ways.
Joe Getty
Got it. And even if it's like in third or fourth place, nobody would say. I would never say. And my fourth priority every day is scrolling Twitter.
Jack Armstrong
Really? Yeah. Even in the top 10 is a little shameful.
Joe Getty
Yeah, but I'm sure it makes it up there some days.
Jack Armstrong
So what Barry Weiss said about the transitions at CBS News, which by the way, for what it's worth, in the immortal words of the Carpenters, they've only just begun. So stay tuned for that. I think you'll find it interesting.
Joe Getty
Speaking of hot musical acts, the Grammys are this Sunday. And something interesting I learned about the Grammys today, so we've got that for you. I don't think the Carpenters are up for any Grammys, but I'll get to that later. Stay here.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty Friday, February 6th kick off the Winter Olympics in style with the Opening ceremony from Italy featuring a special performance by Mariah Carey. Celebrate the greatest athletes from around the globe as they come together to go for gold. Let's see for sensational the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics.
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Joe Getty
On Point Game with me, CJ Toledano and Isaiah Thomas it had a great take on Cade Cunningham making his all star debut as a starter. Take a listen.
Guest/Analyst
He deserves it. He's arguably the best guard in the game right now. His team is one of the best teams in the game right now, so it's like it's well deserved. He earned that. So shout out to him, man. I think with how good they're doing, they should get at least two in the All Star game, though.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Who you think?
Jack Armstrong
Who else? Who else?
Guest/Analyst
Big fella? Jalen Duran, Durant, he's one of them. I think that's the next one. He's a big piece of what they got going on, so.
Joe Getty
Yep.
Guest/Analyst
You got to give love to Cade, man. He's doing what he does, man. I even watched the game last night where they played the Celtics and he didn't really have a good game, but it's just his presence on the floor, like he gets anywhere he wants. He's a big guard. They got nice size and he's strong and physical, so he's a tough cover man. So shout out to him on his first time.
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Trump was sitting there talking about something and the reporters were around and they started asking him about the Epstein files because they've released 3 million more pages, 2,000 videos and 180,000 pictures. Will this ever.
Jack Armstrong
Those are literal numbers. That's not Jack saying released like 3 million pages. No, it's 3 million pages, actually 180,000.
Joe Getty
Pictures been released today, so good God, I hope this is the end of it.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of the news media. CBS News is now being run by Editor in Chief Barry Weiss of the Free Press fame. Big fans of hers around here. She delivered a PowerPoint presentation that outlined her view on the state of media and how CBS can remain relevant. And I thought a lot of it was really interesting. Jack, blast in at will. Obviously she says, I'm not going to stand here up here today and ask you for your trust. I'm going to earn it just like we have to do with our viewers. That's good start.
Joe Getty
I like that.
Jack Armstrong
What I can give you is what I've always tried to give my readers as a journalist. Transparency, clarity, straight talk. So here it is, as plain as I can say it. I'm here to make CBS News fit for purpose in the 21st century. Our industry has changed more in the last decade and in the last 150 years. No doubt the transformation isn't over.
Joe Getty
Far from it.
Jack Armstrong
It's almost impossible to conceive of how fast things will move from here.
Joe Getty
It is almost impossible to conceive.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, I think it is impossible Anyway. She reiterated what her hand picked CBS Evening News anchor Tony decouple told viewers when he took over about how CBS can win back trust. We have to start by looking honestly at ourselves. We are not producing a product that enough people want. We can blame demographics or technology or fractured attention spans or news avoidance, but these are all copes. The reality is twofold. First, not enough people trust us. Not you. Us as in the mainstream media.
Joe Getty
Now that sounds a little to me like what Jeff Bezos said or I guess the guy he hired said to the newsroom at the Washington Post right When they brought in a independent slash conservative leaning guy or whatever he was and all the people were complaining and he said nobody's reading you right now. It's just like you know, what are you doing? You're creating content for no one. So what's the point?
Jack Armstrong
They went APU when he said it. Yeah, we can debate why that is, but the numbers tell the story. According to a recent Gallup poll, just 28% of people say we have their trust. Second, we are not doing enough to meet audiences where they are. So they are leaving us. They are not tuning out. Far from it. In fact, Americans spend twice as much time consuming news as they did 50 years ago. They are going to the vast universe of podcasts and YouTube and Twitch and newsletters and yes, sometimes to our nimbler competitors. And she unveiled a slate of contributors including podcasters and writers like Neil Ferguson. Right then A punch of people that don't really know Andrew Huberman, Caroline Chambers, Casey Lewis also unveiled plans to bring on digital first journalists who are veterans of social media platforms like TikTok and YouTube. She also wanted to turn CBS News reporters into news brands themselves and attract creators to the news division so it can help them become larger brands themselves. I'm not sure that's a positive development, but I'm not sure you can avoid it.
Joe Getty
I think that. I think that happens with good journalism. Back. Back when Lara Logan was a different Laura Logan. I mean, she like, had her own brand. Like, there have been a number of big time journalists that get their own brand because you, you believe them and like their style.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I don't want the journalist to become the news. That's the danger there. But I totally hear what you're saying. Yeah. And then she got to something that I think is pretty compelling. She mentioned that wa Walter Cronkite had two competitors and we have two billion.
Joe Getty
Good one.
Jack Armstrong
She said that while most of CBS News revenue is connected ads on linear tv, ultimately everything they do will be streaming in digital first quote. Our strategy until now has been to cling to the audience that remains on broadcast television. If we stick to that strategy, we're toast.
Joe Getty
I need somebody to restrain me from.
Jack Armstrong
I know.
Joe Getty
Another industry. I know that may.
Jack Armstrong
I should have warned you. Being dragged into the future years after everyone else. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Oh, my God. All right, I'll shut up.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And then. Yeah, stick to that strategy. Or toast. Yes, she is so. What's that smell? Delicious cooked bread.
Joe Getty
Huh? She's so smart. I don't remember what I was reading yesterday. Times, Something like that, but it referred to Barry Weiss, creator of the conservative Free Press. Oh, the Free Press is conservative, Is it okay?
Jack Armstrong
It's not.
Joe Getty
It's not at all. But it's not progressive. So anything that's not progressive is deemed conservative.
Jack Armstrong
I'll squeeze in the rest because it's really good. We're going to put a huge emphasis on scoops. Not scoops that expire minutes later, but investigative scoops. And crucially, scoops of ideas, scoops of explanation. This is where we can soar and where we'll be investing, blah, blah, blah. But startups aren't for everyone. They're places that move at a rapid speed. They experiment, they try new things. They sometimes create noise and yes, bad press. If that's not your bag, that's okay. It's a free country. And I completely respect you if you decide this is just not the right place. At the right time for you.
Joe Getty
I love all that.
Jack Armstrong
That's leadership.
Joe Getty
And even if it doesn't work, I think it will. But even if it doesn't work, you got no choice. You got to go this direction or you're just, you know, waiting to the individual inevitable death of what you've been doing.
Jack Armstrong
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Do you have a reaction to the.
News Reporter/Correspondent
Arrest of Don Lemon overnight?
Government Official/Spokesperson
Reaction to what?
News Reporter/Correspondent
To Don Lemon's arrest overnight.
Government Official/Spokesperson
Do I have a reaction to it? I don't know what that means. What are you looking for me to do? Jump up and down.
Joe Getty
So I was told by one of my favorite podcasters, Rich Lowry of National Review. The Todd Blanche being on the scene is always a good thing. He's the Deputy Attorney General. He's the person underneath Pam Bondi. I like the cut of his jib there. That's a good one. Do I have a reaction to the Lemon arrest?
Jack Armstrong
Queer again.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Do you have a reaction to the.
News Reporter/Correspondent
Arrest of Don Lemon overnight?
Government Official/Spokesperson
Reaction to what?
News Reporter/Correspondent
To Don Lemon's arrest overnight.
Government Official/Spokesperson
Do I have a reaction to it? I don't know what that means. What are you looking for me to do? Jump up and down?
Joe Getty
He was there to talk about. And I gotta believe he's trying to put an end to this. The Epstein files they released, basically, I think it's everything now. Three million pages. And this isn't me saying. A gazillion, actually. 3 million pages, 2,000 videos and 180,000 pictures. It's all been released. And they're not redacting the photos, they're not blacking out pictures or anything? That's what they claim. God, this is probably a horrible precedent. All kinds of people are going to be asked questions that aren't part of an investigation. Didn't do anything wrong.
Jack Armstrong
Right. You're going to have some Wall street guy throwing his head back in laughter. And over there's a girl that looks. Is she 18? I don't know.
Joe Getty
And then. Yeah, well, so Blanche was asked by a reporter about this and I'm hoping that this kind of ends this whole deal. Here we go.
News Reporter/Correspondent
You said this is the end of.
Jack Armstrong
The Epstein, of your review of the Epstein files. So just to clarify, is the public.
News Reporter/Correspondent
Going to learn the identities of the.
Jack Armstrong
Men who abused the girls with the information that you're releasing? And if not, why not? And then I have a quick follow up.
Government Official/Spokesperson
I mean, you just baked in an assumption into your question that I have never said and I don't know to be true. Is the public going to learn about men that abused these girls? Like, what does that mean? I mean, I don't understand what that means.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I mean, they're the men who abused the young women through Epstein's.
Government Official/Spokesperson
Through Epstein, we said in July, and it remains as true today as it was in July. If we had information, we, meaning the Department of Justice, about men who abused women, we would prosecute them.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Government Official/Spokesperson
We talked about the work that we're doing. That's why I said that I said this earlier. There's this built in assumption that somehow there's this hidden tranche of information of men that we know about that we're covering up or that we're choosing not to prosecute. That is not the case. I don't know whether there are men out there that abuse these women. If we learn about information and evidence that allows us to prosecute them, you better believe we will. But I don't think that the public or you all are going to uncover men within the Epstein files that abuse women, unfortunately.
Joe Getty
So you'd have to believe the Biden administration. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We got pictures of grown men abusing children. We just have decided to not follow up on that for some reason. And then the Trump administration, even when it's Republicans. Even when it's Republicans. And then the Trump administration, even though it's Bill Clinton or whoever the hell it is, we're hiding it too. It just doesn't.
Jack Armstrong
High five. Done. Inauguration Day. And said, all right, you're gonna take the country in all sorts of crazy ways, but we're cool on the Epstein stuff, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Joe Getty
All right. I know you reached your end game on this a long time ago. I am now officially 100% done.
Jack Armstrong
I don't believe this is my second big round of headlines that I said I will completely ignore. And if anything significant comes out of it, you. You rub it in my face.
Joe Getty
I think it is significant that they released everything like they did, but that's the end of it. I can't talk another second about it.
Jack Armstrong
The conspiracy theory people will find so much grist for their never ending mill of madness.
Joe Getty
You can't do anything about that. Nope. So the Grammys are Sunday. Joe hates Grammys. I like the Grammys, but they're Sunday.
Jack Armstrong
And Grammys are dead to me. Grammys are stupid. Katie, do you want to know why the Grammys are dead to me? I'd be happy to explain it to you. Ladies and gentlemen, I take you back to the. The year of 1977, the year of our Lord Jimmy Carter strode the planks of the White House, talking about holding a grudge. Yeah, this goes deep.
Joe Getty
Reggie Jackson, three home runs in Game 7.
Jack Armstrong
Watergate was in our past. Best new artist, the Starland Vocal Band. One Hit Wonder Joke beating out Boston. One of the greatest debut albums in the history of recorded music on this planet or any other. The Starland Effing Vocal Band. The Grammys died that day, and they have not been revived like Lazarus of Frankenstein. They're still dead.
News Reporter/Correspondent
That's a.
Joe Getty
That's a valid grudge.
Guest/Analyst
It is.
Joe Getty
That's a good one. That was obviously a mistake.
Jack Armstrong
How do you like this one, Jack? 1979.
Joe Getty
Okay.
Guest/Analyst
It goes.
Jack Armstrong
Deepest new artist.
Joe Getty
My waist was 25 inches at the time.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, let's not speak of unpleasant topics. 1979, the best new artist. A Taste of Honey Boogie, Oogie Oogie, I believe.
Joe Getty
Was there one hit, I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Beating out the Cars and Elvis Costello, among others.
Joe Getty
Whoa.
Jack Armstrong
That.
Joe Getty
That's the category they get beat up the most on. Best new artists. I actually heard the Grammy people explaining on NPR day what best new artist is. People think it's a recognition of who's the best or predicting. It's just. It's just who had the biggest moment this year is what it is. But whatever it is, doesn't make any difference.
Jack Armstrong
Is what you're defending.
Joe Getty
1970.
Jack Armstrong
Take a look at yourself.
Joe Getty
The last of my hair was headed to the drain. This is the interesting thing I heard about the Grammys. They're mentioning one of the best new artists who got launched basically on TikTok. For whatever reason, people liked her song. And I don't remember what it's about, but it's got some, you know, empowering theme or chorus or whatever. And it got used in so many TikTok videos, like thousands, 800,000 different views, like in one week of people putting together their Tick Tock videos to this song. And that's what it got on everybody's radar. And that launched her. And then they had the stat that this last year, 80% of the songs that ended up on The Billboard Top 100 chart started on tick tock. 80%. So tick tock is the leader for where new music comes from. Now that's amazing. It is amazing and it's interesting. And if you got a band or you're crafting songs in your home or whatever, the Tick Tock is the launching platform more than the record company or the whoever radio station, I guess.
Jack Armstrong
And I'm convinced. Go ahead, Katie.
Joe Getty
Sorry. The number of times that I have heard a song under a Tick Tock.
Jack Armstrong
Movie or video and then looked up.
Joe Getty
The entire song and had the Rest of it just be crap.
Oh really?
Oh yeah.
But I do like the democratization of art that has happened this way. I, I, I don' like it with our politics or punditry. I don't think that has been good. I think gatekeepers for punditry was a good thing, but not for music. And you know, the good stuff will bubble up and make a way through if everybody can be exposed to it. I'm perfectly fine with that. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
So speaking of TikTok, just quickly quoting the James lynch of the National Review. The Trump broker deal to have TikTok's Chinese parent company sell its US operations, blah blah blah, will effectively allow Beijing allow Beijing to retain control over the popular short form video platform national security hawks believe because A Trump really likes it for his political purposes and B, C, D and E, there are a lot of huge industries in America including entertainment that probably said don't mess with.
Joe Getty
TikTok, we need it.
Jack Armstrong
So the commies are, you know, perverting the minds of our children and gathering our data. We need it.
Joe Getty
Let it go back to the music thing briefly and then the whole gatekeepers thing. A great example of that is Chris Stapleton, the country artist who country radio and country in Nashville just would not they had no interest because he didn't sound like all those other syrupy machine like cranked out of a machine country songs and then he puts on the Grammys, gave him best album couple years in a row even though he was getting zero play on country music stations because it was awesome. And then eventually the public caught up leading me to telling you Chris Stapleton is playing the night before the super bowl in San Francisco. And, and I thought, you know, I haven't seen Chris Staple but not Stapleton. I really like his music and I thought maybe I'll go. Tickets are the most expensive tickets of anything I've ever looked for in my life. To see Chris Stapleton nosebleed sections even on StubHub like there are none left there like $1800 while Taylor Swift fans.
Jack Armstrong
Are like what are you people crazy?
Joe Getty
Yeah. And I just, I love that that that country music is like no, no fat guy. No, he didn't. He doesn't look like a model. We can't have some fat unattractive dude be a beyond our on our radio stations. We're getting make any money off of that. He's the biggest things happened to country music in like 30 years. That's a good thing for just enjoying art.
Jack Armstrong
Where's that show.
Joe Getty
One of your auditoriums.
Jack Armstrong
That'S a good place to have it. Yeah. I just wondered the size though.
Joe Getty
It's big. It's pretty big. Yeah, it might be. Because I wonder if there's a chance. There's so many people in town for the super bowl and it's night before and they got nothing else to do and they want to see.
Jack Armstrong
It's nothing but the highest of high rollers, right?
Joe Getty
They want to see one of the great music acts in America. I wonder if that's driving up prices. You think that kind of makes sense, doesn't it?
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Joe Getty
Got all these rich people in town with a Saturday night to kill. That's good schedule.
Jack Armstrong
It's like the F1 racing is in town or you know, some other high roller type activity. The Davos Conference is going on.
Joe Getty
That was good scheduling. Probably not an accident. They probably do this in every super bowl town every year and I just never noticed it. You bring in some high dollar acts of all different kinds and you can just pay charge anything for tickets.
Jack Armstrong
Tickets.
Joe Getty
You got all these people with time to kill and lots and lots of money. I really wish I was going to at least the media day, the Super Bowl. I'm going to spank myself for the rest of my life for not thinking of doing that earlier. I still might drive over there next Friday and just put a video of.
Jack Armstrong
You spanking yourself up on Tick Tock.
Joe Getty
Boy. I'm going to want the lighting to be pretty dim.
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Joe Getty
Distance like you can't even hardly tell what's going on over there.
Jack Armstrong
Make this a pruder film look like 4K right?
Joe Getty
Exactly. I might drive over there next Friday though, after the show and just check out the scene. Get as close as I can and walk around. Just. I just want to see the hubbub. We'll finish strong next Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
Is worth a whole lot. This planet that's all that we got. How you feel about it?
Joe Getty
Let's get real about it. It saw the people Southern California losing houses Sadness and fear too much to bear Sending out hope to overcome despair Positive energy to all the continents we.
Jack Armstrong
All feel the pain and the powerlessness, A dose of empathy, gratitude in the music climbing like all of humanity going through it. Yeah man, I hear you. It's too much panic, overwhelming anxiety engulfing the planet. You paid for the songs, friends.
Joe Getty
Oh really?
Jack Armstrong
Earth filled, impatient. So it's the environmental climate change rap song put out by the National Environmental Education foundation, which is funded by the US taxpayer, which is terrifying the kids about climate change in schools. But there's more.
Joe Getty
So they stated in that rap song like it's just a known fact that the fires in Los Angeles are because of climate change.
Jack Armstrong
That's correct. Yeah.
Joe Getty
It's funny that my kids have emerged from quite a few years of public school. My son's in private school now, but when he was in public school, you know, enough years and my youngest quite a few years that they don't have that view of climate change. I don't know why it didn't catch with them. I don't know about other kids.
Jack Armstrong
Climate change, I wonder if it's really versus girls.
Joe Getty
I have no idea.
Jack Armstrong
We can see it in the fire, man. Some don't believe it. I just don't understand it, fam. For those who understand, make a community plan. Shout out to you for lending a helping hand. Interesting, isn't it? This is way just something just occurred to me. So the same NEF.
Joe Getty
As part of.
Jack Armstrong
The national public's Lands day, they do climate change rap songs. They have their climate emotions wheel that is overwhelmingly sadness, fear and anger that they're teaching the kids. Then they have them do a land acknowledgement that we are on the land that was stolen from blah blah blah and we need to decolonialize. Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Joe Getty
Hey, it's like they're all progressive causes.
Jack Armstrong
All from critical theory.
Joe Getty
Hey, that Indian tribe that you just mentioned, where did they get the land? Did somebody have it before them? Yeah. So go ahead, explain. Explain how this works.
Jack Armstrong
Then why are we decolonizing and doing land acknowledgments. And I thought we were talking about climate change. Yeah, it's because it's all part of the Marxist playbook. Critical theory, in short, to tear down Western civilization. Once you know what it is, it's obvious how it's working. But the percentage of Americans who actually understand that all of this, I mean, what the hell is queers for Palestine, right? Everybody thinks, oh my God, these people are so crazy. No, it's that they're all different facets of critical theory that are joining together to get rid of liberal Western democracies. Simple. Again, they've written books, their names are on the spine. They're not hiding it, they're proud of it. It.
Joe Getty
Speaking of books, you mentioned the death of mass market paperbacks was just reading about this. Tim sand put it out. He, he, like me, is very concerned about the end of reading. The end of literacy. Really? Well, not literacy, because we're going to keep reading, but we're not going to read anything longer than a couple of sentences at a time.
Jack Armstrong
Pretty close to illiteracy.
Joe Getty
It is pretty close, isn't it? Nobody's going to be reading books though. Definitely. I mean that's just. Just going to go away. It's going away now or are they?
Jack Armstrong
Stay with us.
Joe Getty
Mass market paperbacks, which Were the biggest thing in all the publishing for a very, very long time. And it's. It's basically dead now. They've. They've announced that it's. It's crossed the line into dead and the numbers on it. I won't get him into them and bore you, but it's just. It's incredible. Like it dropped from gazillions and gazillions to like 80,000 in a few years. That's how. Because it used to be very common. I almost always had a mass market paperback in my. In my backpack or something for school or home or on the bus or with me and all the time. But now nobody carries them around. Nobody.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. There isn't trend back toward reading allegedly and from unplugging and stuff like that. But, you know, I don't. I. I have no desire to be right about this or not. I'm just observing.
Joe Getty
Oh, I want you to be right.
Jack Armstrong
I suspect that it's a catastrophic drop followed by a slight rebound.
Joe Getty
Yeah, well, the. The numbers will be there. And Tim. Our friend Tim Sandifer, who writes books, has told me about where all the numbers are in the industry. And it's. It's damn depressing.
Jack Armstrong
He.
Joe Getty
He basically said nobody reads anymore.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Way to end the show on a depressing note. For the whole week. We're gonna be depressed all weekend, thanks to you. Well, I got a better one.
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Joe Getty
Stay tuned.
Jack Armstrong
How to not be depressed. I need that paperback quickly. You'll get the facts.
Joe Getty
They're sharp and steady.
Jack Armstrong
Tune in tomorrow.
Joe Getty
Don't you forget it.
Jack Armstrong
For more from Armstrong and get. I love that.
Joe Getty
That was cool.
Jack Armstrong
It's odd. Oh, I like the end.
Joe Getty
It's unique. It's.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's hard.
Joe Getty
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Jack Armstrong
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day in the week. There he is, Michelangelo to lead us off in the control room. Michael, final thought. I'm almost afraid to say this, but I'll go ahead and say it. Will the Grammys this year have a surprise guest, Bruce Springsteen go up there and sing his new song?
Joe Getty
Oh, good call you.
Jack Armstrong
Just.
Joe Getty
Good call, Michael. How could they resist.
Jack Armstrong
Vomit? Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, I know Jack's gonna hate this.
Joe Getty
But I actually want to see the Melania documentary and plan on it.
Okay, well, then tell us about it. Maybe I'm wrong.
Jack Armstrong
Maybe you'll like it.
Joe Getty
Maybe it'll be great. Okay, Super Jack, final thought you wanted something. That's a downer. Here's the downer of all downers for you.
Jack Armstrong
No.
Joe Getty
A new canine coronavirus is spreading and could be a future pandemic. And humans warn scientists. Scientists. Right. The dogs have Covid and they're afraid it's going to leap to humans. And it's a brand new one.
Jack Armstrong
Somebody's getting punched. We have another pandemic. I'm punching somebody.
Joe Getty
How is that going to help?
Jack Armstrong
It's going to help me. Soon we'll be getting heartworm. My final thought. On average, 70% of the time Americans spend online, they say feels them leaving disconnected and lonely rather than genuinely connected, leading to feelings of being overwhelmed, anxious and irritated. I think people are waking up to the downside of technology.
Joe Getty
I. I want. I want you to be right. I hope you're right. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
We will see you on Monday. God bless. Less American.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
As soon as you flip that thing on, you think, this was a horrible mistake.
Jack Armstrong
I have made a terrible decision here. This. But this guy was.
Joe Getty
Somebody turned. I can't reach a button. You flip it on and think I have made a horrible mistake.
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In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty engage in a refreshingly politics-light discussion, hitting cultural touchstones, media transformation, and generational shifts in media consumption. Themes include the evolution of legacy news (notably CBS under Barry Weiss), the impact of TikTok on new music, media trust, and skepticism toward institutional authority in politics and journalism. There’s also classic A&G banter about pop culture events like the Grammys and the influence of social media on youth priorities. The show maintains its signature irreverence, balancing wit and critique with relatable asides.
This episode wove together classic Armstrong & Getty cultural commentary with pointed observations about the news industry’s existential challenges, the messy democratization of art via new platforms, and the paradoxes of digital life. All wrapped in their signature style—a mix of sharp wit, curiosity, and self-deprecation. From the fate of CBS to the TikTokification of music and the “shame-attude” of wasted online hours, the episode drilled into what it means to be an informed—and distracted—American in 2026.