Reindeer Meat Everywhere

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – Episode: Reindeer Meat Everywhere
Release Date: December 13, 2024
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Description: The official, On-Demand podcast of The Armstrong & Getty Show! Accept no substitutes!

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1. Introduction to Current Events and Political Commentary

Timestamp: [03:24] – [04:09]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dive into a heated discussion about the rising tension within the progressive left, particularly focusing on the alarming trend of advocating violence against CEOs. They reference a New York Post column by David Hari, highlighting a disturbing debate among progressives about the morality of targeting corporate leaders.

Notable Quote:

• Jack Armstrong: “There seems to be an actual debate going on in the progressive left over whether slaying CEOs is a bad thing.” [03:53]

2. The CEO Violence Debate

Timestamp: [04:09] – [12:04]

The hosts delve deeper into the issue, discussing posters in New York urging the assassination of CEOs. They draw parallels between these aggressive tactics and the demolition of empathy in society. The conversation touches on how this extremist viewpoint is overshadowing rational discourse and contributing to societal instability.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Getty: “There is a 99.6% overlap between the people putting up those posters and people tearing down town posters of Israeli hostages being held by Hamas.” [04:28]
• Jack Armstrong: “This is not just your normal left, right, back and forth... This is the sort of thing that catches on in societies and is very hard to stop once it gets going.” [17:58]

3. Health Insurance and Third-Party Payment Systems

Timestamp: [12:04] – [24:25]

Armstrong and Getty transition to the topic of healthcare, critiquing the inefficiencies of third-party payment systems. They argue that the involvement of insurance companies and government systems complicates healthcare, leading to inflated prices and reduced transparency. The discussion highlights the challenges Americans face with high deductibles and the lack of affordability despite having insurance.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Getty: “The third party payment system is the principal force behind health care price inflation in the US.” [22:56]
• Jack Armstrong: “None of these news programs are talking about the incredible lack of empathy from the general public about this.” [06:27]

4. Drone Sightings and National Security Concerns

Timestamp: [24:25] – [35:38]

The conversation shifts to recent drone sightings in the United States and Germany, sparking debates about national security. The hosts express skepticism about official statements and criticize the government's handling of the situation. They mock the contradictory messages from authorities, emphasizing the public’s growing paranoia and the potential for overreactions, such as the hypothetical shooting down of Santa Claus.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong: “These two sentences can't go together.” [33:50]
• Joe Getty: “It's like the Salem witch hunt. Everybody's seeing witches in the woods, but she's a witch.” [31:25]

5. Dick Van Dyke’s Wildfire Experience

Timestamp: [42:37] – [45:46]

In a lighter segment, the hosts recount an anecdote about actor Dick Van Dyke narrowly escaping a wildfire in Malibu at the age of 99. They humorously contrast their own capabilities with his, reflecting on his resilience and the admiration they hold for his longevity and adventurous spirit.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong: “I got a fire hose that hooks up to my pool.” [43:46]
• Joe Getty: “Happy birthday, Dick. Dick hooked up a fire hose to his pool and was trying to spray off the house himself.” [44:16]

6. Elon Musk, Government Efficiency, and Economic Concerns

Timestamp: [45:46] – [48:49]

The hosts discuss Elon Musk’s influence and potential role in government efficiency, juxtaposing his innovative spirit against the entrenched federal bureaucracy. They express skepticism about his chances but acknowledge his potential for incremental improvements. The conversation extends to the unsustainable US GDP deficits and the necessity for economic reforms, emphasizing the dire need for addressing national debt and fiscal responsibility.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong: “There's an extraordinary amount of waste and it's unsustainable. The 6% GDP deficits the US has cannot be sustained.” [46:59]
• Joe Getty: “No government or society has ever survived this sort of excess spending. It always ends the same way.” [48:41]

7. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

Timestamp: [48:49] – [52:09]

In their closing segment, Armstrong and Getty reflect on the day's discussions, reiterating the importance of addressing systemic issues in healthcare, government spending, and societal violence. They encourage listeners to stay informed and engaged, emphasizing the need for collective action against hate and inefficiency.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong: “We do four hours of this every single day. Shocking. It's in our contract.” [48:47]
• Joe Getty: “Hate has been winning for too long, it's at an all time high... It's time to take a time out against hate.” [51:20]

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Conclusion

In this episode of "Armstrong & Getty On Demand," Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty tackle a range of pressing issues, from political extremism and healthcare inefficiencies to national security concerns and economic sustainability. Through their candid discussions and sharp wit, they offer listeners a critical perspective on the challenges facing American society today.

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Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

In Seattle.

[Joe Getty]

This chilling memory appeared briefly on a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Road sign threatening other CEOs.

[Joe Getty]

The city blaming a private construction contractor at the University of Pennsylvania where Mengioni graduated with engineering degrees. An assistant professor appeared to praise the.

[Jack Armstrong]

CEO's murder in this TikTok video, saying she's never been prouder to be a professor there.

[Joe Getty]

Later saying she was regretful and doesn't condone violence.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, except you just did.

[Joe Getty]

Publicly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Proudly and cheerfully.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I was reading the column in the New York Post from David Hari. There seems to be an actual debate going on in the progressive left over whether slaying CEOs is a bad thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And you see those posters going up in New York essentially urging people to hunt down other CEOs with their pictures and stuff like that. I guarantee There is a 99.6% overlap between the people putting up those posters and people tearing down town posters of Israeli hostages being held by Hamas.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Joe Getty]

That same angry radical left nihilist over educated moron class that's screwing up so much about what is good in this country.

[Jack Armstrong]

More on that attitude in a minute. Had a weird thing interesting thing happen on News Nation yesterday. A reporter facilitating communication between prisoners where the murder scumbags being held and the. Well, let's listen to it. Look up at that window.

[Unknown]

Let me yell them a question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Alex.

[Unknown]

Hold on. Let me yell a question. Guys, if you can hear me clearly, okay, do you guys have any sights on Luigi Mangione?

[Jack Armstrong]

Just yell yes or no.

[Unknown]

I don't know if they're answering.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're flickering. They're saying no, go ahead. Okay, so they're actually watching her on TV in the prison and then.

[Joe Getty]

That's crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a little delayed from to before it gets to her. And then they. No we can't see him.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Do you have a follow up? Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, that's. That's kind of funny. I almost want to hear more of that. What else? What else did she ask?

[Jack Armstrong]

I know a lot of you are into News Nation. I have too many friends who are like avid watchers of News Nation. I've got to get on board and start recording some of their shows on a regular basis like I do every other cable channel. Yeah, why not? I'm behind the curve on that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I would agree.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know a lot of you.

[Joe Getty]

Not that you are. That I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. More sources is good if you have the time.

[Jack Armstrong]

We played this yesterday. But to. To bring back up the conversation, this is Bill Bur. Comedian who. I'm a big fan of his comedy act. This particular attitude he has would destroy the country. So that's a problem.

[Joe Getty]

You know what's annoying me about this, this kid who killed this CEO is.

[Jack Armstrong]

None of these news programs are talking.

[Joe Getty]

About the incredible lack of empathy from the general public about this because of.

[Jack Armstrong]

How these insurance companies treat people when they are at their most vulnerable. After we've all given them our money every month and now we finally need.

[Joe Getty]

You and all you do is deny. And then these.

[Jack Armstrong]

And all of these things are taking.

[Joe Getty]

The pictures of their CEOs off their websites. You know, I gotta be honest with you. Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

I love that the CEOs are afraid right now.

[Joe Getty]

You should be. By and large, you're all a bunch of selfish, greedy pieces of.

[Jack Armstrong]

And a lot of you are mass murderers. You just don't pull the trigger. See, a lot of those things in what he said there are true or can be true, but don't have any connection to. So you can scare or. Or. Or violently attack or murder CEOs, right? Are a lot of companies greedy? And sometimes CEOs are greedy and amoral. Yeah, sure. I'm sure that happens in all kinds of industries. But what's that got to do with. You can either murder them in the street or have them be afraid to do their jobs the way they want because you will hurt them or murder them. Play this through. I realize you're an artist, Bill Burr, but anybody who has the this mindset, play this out for me. How would this work? How would. How would society be structured if mob violence is the way people approach their job every day? Is the mob going to kill me or my family today? Are they happy with this move? I can do it. Okay. I mean, how would this work?

[Joe Getty]

Well, I think Bill Burr would Answer you in his charming Boston accent and explain to you that, well, companies would reform and behave more responsibly so they aren't gunned down on the pavement by self righteous little rich boys.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, well, I would say to Bill Burr, I wish I could have this conversation with him because he's a pretty smart guy and I'd love to talk to him because I'm a fan. But hey, Bill Burr, you are a very edgy comedian and you make jokes about trans people and all kinds of different sorts of stuff. So what if the trans community decided you're causing harm in their community and so they throw threaten you physically to come around to their thinking, or they're going to hurt you or shoot you in the street? Then how do you, where do you draw the line on these things?

[Joe Getty]

Well, I'm not as bad as a healthcare CEO. They murder tens of thousands of people. Yeah, well, the trans folks are going to say, yeah, you caused thousands of deaths, you've made the world unsafe, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I mean, you're obviously right. It's, it's worth kicking Elizabeth Warren one more time, at least briefly. Charlie Cook was writing about this international review.

[Jack Armstrong]

A beer. That's my favorite.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Little fire water.

[Joe Getty]

Harvard academic has never uttered in her life. Firewater, indeed. Anyway, so she was one of those people. Violence is never the answer, but people can only be pushed so far. Then she explains why it was justified to gun this poor son of a gun down on the pavement, as Charlie Cook mentions. But then he reminds us all, oh, first of all, he compares her to John Fetterman who said of the shooter, he's the a hole that's going to die in prison. And about anybody celebrating online, Fetterman said, a sore is going to soar. That's what social media is about. I don't know why the media wants to turn this into a story. These trolls saying these kinds of things anonymously. But of course, these trolls anonymously include your fellow senator Elizabeth Warren, who is saying it publicly. But Fetterman went on, remember, he had two children that are going to grow up without their father. It's vile. And if you've gunned someone down that you don't happen to agree with their views or the business they're in, hey, you know, I'm next. They're next. He's next, she's next. And as Charlie Cook writes, Americans seeking good Examples should resolve to be a Fetterman rather than a Warren. But then he points out that she, her cabal, you know, like in the NFL, they have coaching trees. A bunch of the assistant coaches of a Bill Belichick become head coaches and their assistant coaches and because they influence each other and they end up being, you know, just the source of great coaches. Elizabeth Warren, her cabal became the Biden administration and pushed him way, way to the left. She was also the person that pushed Kamala Harris way, way to the left in 2019 during the campaign. She of her skinny old northeastern woman, academic, you know, image. She is unbelievably effective radical leftist who has really screwed up the Democratic party, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

So she went on the war path against anybody who didn't agree with her and sent up smoke signals to let them know, hey, if you get on the wrong side of me, right?

[Joe Getty]

And well played there. Don't think I didn't notice that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I appreciate, I appreciate you completely ignoring it.

[Joe Getty]

Final note from Charlie Cook. Let's she pushed everybody way left. It should have been obvious that Warren was a crank when she started tweeting out sentiments such as, and this is a quote, black, trans and CIS women, gender nonconforming and non binary people are the backbone of our democracy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, she speak with fork tongue.

[Joe Getty]

But it was not clear. If it was not clear then, the consequences of her influence have now made the indictment clear. Warren is a disaster for her party, a disaster for America, and a disaster for the basic human decency that we are entitled to expect from our politicians. No ifs or buts. Apply a reference to her. Well, you shouldn't kill people, but he had it coming speech. Yeah. So the good [e-mail] with a great, great piece entitled the people cheering Brian Thompson's murder can't have the medical utopia that they want. Whether private or public, third party payment for health care is a huge problem. And this dovetails beautifully with what Craig the healthcare guru was saying on the show yesterday. And if you didn't listen to it, grab the podcast. Maybe it was hour three. Yeah, yesterday's Armstrong and Getty show. Armstrong and Getty on demand. Instead of rushing through this like a maniac, why don't we, you know, take a break and come back to it. But the realities of, you know, third party payment, Screw everything up and we shall explain.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I hope people fully recognize this is a funny thing to say over the Beach Boys singing a Christmas song. I hope people fully realize what a dangerous philosophy is going on here with the whole I'm glad the CEO got gunned down thing. This is not just Your normal left, right, back and forth, look how bad the other side is thing. This is the sort of thing that catches on in societies and is very hard to stop once it gets going.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, yeah, absolutely true. And it's also undeniable that if somebody on the right says we need to target this district, you're accused of fomenting violence.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

But if you say we ought to gun down these mother blankers and then they get gunned down, the left says what? Me? Who me? But having said that, it's interesting that 81% of people with private health insurance are happy with their insurance in America. Now granted, when you do need it and there's that push and pull of no, you can't have this test done or you got to ask them twice or whatever, that's a really uncomfortable thing and it makes people mad. But. And maybe it could be done better. We're not on the take from United Healthcare or anybody else around here. We're just trying to get to the bottom of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Would you, would you answer that question, yes or no? Are you happy with your health insurance? I'm a no.

[Joe Getty]

I am actually.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I was happier before Obamacare when. Before deductibles became whatever they are. $4,000 for my family. That's insane.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, in general I am, but you know, I've been reasonably healthy too, which is, you know, kind of an indictment right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

I suppose if I was going to be, you know, work on being more grateful. I went through cancer and it got mostly paid for and that could have not happened, I suppose. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It reminds me of, you know, people who trust the government to do all things well and good. Those are people who would never deal with the government. Anybody who's ever spent a minute at a zoning office or whatever, it doesn't feel that way. Anyway, the [e-mail] with a great, great piece. J.D. tsiel wrote it. I hope I'm saying his name right, but. Evoking a collective scream of despair from socialists and anti corporate types, police in Pennsylvania arrested Luigi Mandion Menu. We know who he is. Thompson. They insist the murder victim stood in the way of the sort of health care that they think they deserve. And shooting him down on the street was some sort of bloody minded strike for justice. The Assassins fans and the legal system is yet to convict anybody for the crime are moral degenerates. But they're also dreaming if they think insurance executives like Thompson are all that stands between them and their visions of a single payer medical system that satisfies Every desire. While there is a lot wrong with the main way health care is paid for and delivered in the U.S. what the haters want is probably not achievable, and the means many of them prefer would make things worse. There's an old joke among health policy wonks. According from a Cato Institute According to a Cato institute guy from 2017, what the American people really want from health care reform is unlimited care from the doctor of their choice with no weight, free of charge.

[Jack Armstrong]

Correct?

[Joe Getty]

The problem, no matter how health care is delivered, is that it requires labor, time and resources that are available in finite supply. Somebody must decide how to allocate medications, treatments, physicians and hospital beds and how to pay for it all. And a common assumption in some circles is that Americans ration medicine by price, handing an advantage to the wealthy and sticking it to the poor. Of course, and they quote Vox, of course, the alternative, supposedly, is one where healthcare is universal with bills paid by government, so everyone has access to care. Except most Americans rely on somebody else to pay the bulk of their medical bills, just like Canadians, Germans and Britons. And while there are huge differences among the systems presented as alternatives to what we do in the US Third party payers, whether government or insurance companies, do enormous damage to the provision of health care. This is something Craig the healthcare guru and I have also been saying for the longest time. When you establish a giant, profitable middleman to get between me and my doctor, that's not going to serve me. It complicates things. It clouds things, they write. Contrary to conventional wisdom, health insurance, private or otherwise, does not make health care affordable. Write, wrote an Expert Back in 2013, the third party payment system is the principal force behind health care price inflation in the us the dominance of third party payment, whether United Healthcare or others, or Medicare or Medicaid or something else, makes it difficult to know the price for procedures, medicines and treatments, because there really isn't one price. When third party payers are involved, it's all the subject of giant complex negotiations. You pay $300, I pay $1500 and I'm in the room next to you, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Or when I was going to pay cash for a scan that wasn't going to be covered by insurance. Years ago, shopped around, the price was so different depending on where he wants. Like why if I drive 20 miles over here, I save $400. Why?

[Joe Getty]

And again, different kinds of people pay wildly different prices at the same facility on the same day, right? Which is insane. I'd love to drill down on that a little more but we don't have unlimited time. I wanted to get to this part. When government lawyers or third party insurance is responsible for paying the bills, consumers have no incentive to control costs. After all, the premium's already paid, right? Or the tax is already paid, right? So why do I care if it's bloated or inflated or whatever, right? And then they get into, quite appropriately, how government run healthcare systems have these problems and more. Because instead of profit, you have taxes being taken from people run through the bureaucracy, then paying for the doctors and nurses and medicines and stuff like that. So it's really scarce and it's rationed by time. It takes 28 weeks in Canada between your referral to a specialist and when you get to see them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

Would you like me to do that math for you? I'll give you a hunt, a hint. Six months would be 24 weeks. And it takes 28 weeks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, wow. So rationing happens everywhere. Man. There's more to be said on this.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is pretty interesting. Hey, we're being invaded by drones. Is everybody aware of that? Yeah, being invaded by drones.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

You should be shot down if necessary.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's Senator Richard Blumenthal. So not a U.S. house member and Senate senator is a bigger deal and a respected senator at least by the media saying we should shoot down the mysterious drones that nobody's able to identify yet. Now yesterday we had the congressperson from New Jersey saying there was an Iranian mothership offshore and all that kind of crazy talk, and nobody has any idea what that guy's talking about.

[Joe Getty]

You'd think Blumenthal, with his access to everything, not classified information, but lots of information, would know whether it's necessary to shoot them down or not. Based at this point, I would think.

[Jack Armstrong]

He'D have access either direct, like, give me the file or know who to talk to.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

To any information.

[Joe Getty]

Or are we actually that completely ignorant of what the heck is going on?

[Jack Armstrong]

So here's a different congressperson, also from New Jersey. I haven't heard this one yet.

[Joe Getty]

I understand why so many in our community, in our state, are concerned. When you hear reports of drones flying above us or see activity yourself, and federal agencies responsible for controlling the airspace don't properly and quickly brief the public. I want you to know that based on the information, the briefings that I've received to date, I'm not concerned about any imminent threats to public safety or.

[Unknown]

Our national security regarding these drones.

[Joe Getty]

But. And I've made this very clear to the FBI, to Homeland Security and the faa, the agency is chiefly responsible for monitoring drone activity. They must immediately disclose more information to the public. It's totally and completely unacceptable that you have all this drone activity going on that people are seeing with their own eyes. And even if it's not all drone activity and some of it is manned aircraft, there appears to be plenty of drone activity that people are seeing with their own eyes. The fact that the federal agencies responsible for briefing the public have not come forward in a clear way is unacceptable. He needs to wake up, Hank. He's ignoring the Iranian mothership.

[Jack Armstrong]

But, yeah, here's. Here's the mothership, dude.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I'm also on the Transportation.

[Unknown]

Committee on the Aviation Subcommittee, and I've.

[Joe Getty]

Gotten to know people and from very high sources, very qualified sources, very responsible sources. I'm going to tell you the real deal. Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones. That mothership is off. I'm going to tell you the deal. It's off.

[Unknown]

The east coast of the United States of America.

[Joe Getty]

They've launched drones, is everything that we can see here.

[Jack Armstrong]

And again, these are from high sources.

[Unknown]

I don't say this lightly.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, they're high. All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's interesting. So, Hanson, whichever.

[Joe Getty]

Those are two different districts in New Jersey. I want to know the median IQ of each of those two districts, because the one guy certainly seemed like an upgrade over that guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah. So, Hanson, Our executive producer Hansen's take on the other guy was he knows what they are and isn't worried about them, but he can't say. And he's. His message, is he? The people who have are the clearance to say need to say what these things are.

[Joe Getty]

Ah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that the way you took it?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well.

[Joe Getty]

And you've got to combine all of that with the fact that now everybody who sees anything larger than a sparrow in the sky is saying, look, it's one of those drones. You know, if it's some kid hobby lobbyist or it's the regularly scheduled flight from LAX to Las Vegas or whatever, everybody's. Now it's. It's like you said, it's like the Salem witch hunt. Everybody's seeing witches in the woods, but she's a witch.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Drones have been spotted in Germany now. So it had spread across. They have it been spotted spread across the United States yesterday, and now they've been spotted in Germany. Nazi Germany? No, Germany.

[Joe Getty]

New Germany. Michael, they've been spotted at your local hobby store too. What do you want me to do?

[Jack Armstrong]

I spotted them over in a new house that's having an open house on Saturday.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no kidding. So, yeah, it's become silly and confusing and there still might be something menacing going on. Witness the Chinese freaking spy balloon or all of the software sleeping in all of our systems right now planted by the chai comes and. And all the spies in America. You're not. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you. Well.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, play 50. This is John Kirby. I mean, he's as high up a spokesman that anybody trusts as you can get in the White House using very sophisticated electronic detection technologies provided by federal authorities. We have not been able to, and.

[Joe Getty]

Neither have state or local law enforcement.

[Jack Armstrong]

Authorities corroborate any of the reported visual sightings.

[Joe Getty]

So is he saying there aren't videotape on the news?

[Jack Armstrong]

So is he saying there aren't any drones? I mean, that. That it's all made up? Maybe we should hear the rest of us roll on. We're concerned about it, too. We are still investigating this. I can't tell you definitively. I cannot characterize for you definitively what these sightings are.

[Joe Getty]

I can just go back to what I said at the opening.

[Jack Armstrong]

We've looked at the imagery. We can't corroborate some of the reported sightings through our own expert analysis using sophisticated detection techniques.

[Joe Getty]

But that doesn't mean that, you know.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'Re putting our pen down here this afternoon and calling it a day. We have no evidence at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a.

[Joe Getty]

National security or a public safety threat.

[Jack Armstrong]

See, that's the thing that has been driving me crazy for several days is the constant, we don't know what these are. They aren't a threat. Those two sentences can't go together.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

That doesn't make any sense. You know what? The perfect storm that I just realized that is occurring. The public is going to demand something be done. We're only like 10 days away. The United States Air Force is going to shoot down Santa.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

That's what's going to end up happening.

[Joe Getty]

That's the worst possible outcome.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's among them. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Toys scattered across the countryside.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So, yeah, keep that in your, the back of your mind while you're listening to all this. The US Government at the highest level is capable of incredible flailing. I mean, that was flailing like I'm in charge. You let the one thing go clear across the country. Then you started shooting down gender reveal balloons.

[Joe Getty]

True international depression weather balloons, Boy scout packs doing an experiment for their eagle scout badge. Boy, there goes the balloon.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stupid Santa going to be blasted out of a sky by an icbm. You heard it here first.

[Joe Getty]

It's a lot of ordinance for a one obese gentleman in a sleigh guided by diminutive reindeer. Why are they tiny reindeer in the popular conception of Santa Claus? Is it because they would have to be fairly small to fit on most roofs?

[Jack Armstrong]

You're gonna make Tim the lawyer call in. This is one of his things.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no. Is it? Yeah. Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

The invention of the whole Santa sleigh reindeer thing came from, I believe, Coca Cola. But Tim is big on this. But they were, as it says in the songs, eight tiny reindeer. Everything was miniature but somehow got blown up over time to like regular sized. And that really bothers Tim. The origin story has been lost. Yeah. Because in all your movies you got full size reindeer like the size of a horse up on your roof.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that's full size sleigh and all that sort of thing.

[Joe Getty]

So was the sleigh tiny as well as the reindeer? Because I'm familiar with the reference to eight tiny reindeer, but nobody references the size of the sleigh and I don't need all the specs. I'm not, you know, that serious about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, my kids are.

[Joe Getty]

And Santa's normal sized, right? Or is. No, he's a jolly little elf.

[Jack Armstrong]

My kids are past the age now of the. Of this. And on one hand, you know, the magic is gone of just that whole thing when Santa is full on real and the wonder and everything, it's just, it's. Nothing could be more fantastic as a child or a parent. It's a hell of a lot easier this way. Much easier.

[Joe Getty]

We had so many wonderful traditions with the kids. I mean, just. I'll tear up thinking about it, but I mean, it was the. It was the stockings. And we would put out reindeer food for Santa's reindeer and they would eat it. Then he would leave candy in their shoes. I mean, because they would read about various cultures at school or be told about them and their Christmas celebrations and they'd say, we should put our shoes out. What am I going to say? No, put your damn shoes back in the closet. That's foreign. Santa. American Santa doesn't mess with people's shoes. He messes with their socks if they're hung by a fireplace for some reason. Only with care.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hanging with care. That looked a little careless.

[Joe Getty]

Slovenly hanging. Zero presence. So anyway, yeah, there would be shoes to fill and the reindeer food would be put out. And that was oatmeal and glitter. And then two. Continue the loving idea that indeed the reindeer had been there consuming the reindeer food. Somebody would have to clean it up. Oh, well, by eating it. That's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I did that. I almost forgot many times. Got to eat part of the cookie.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Of course.

[Jack Armstrong]

Santa was here. Nature cookie. That stuff is awesome. But like I said, it's not as wonderful now, but it's certainly easier. What is that thing you wanted? Okay, I got it at the store. It'll be under the tree.

[Joe Getty]

Considerably less magic.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's cute if your kid is five.

[Unknown]

But if he's 17, it's not cute.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah. The UK that the other day has postponed indefinitely. Hormone treatments for momentarily confused adolescents. The National Health Authority just backtracked and said, no, trans women cannot breastfeed after all. It's a bad idea. The quote unquote milk is not comparable to a woman's real breast milk.

[Jack Armstrong]

No kidding.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. As the comment went to the story, I'm absolutely shocked that men can't breastfeed. This is real breaking news. Shocking stuff. You how did we get swept away by such madness? Well, and it's continuing in a lot of quarters.

[Jack Armstrong]

But man, if you're taking so many drugs that you start to leak out your male nipples and then you're trying to feed an infant with that, you are crazy.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Unknown]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Dick Van Dyke, 99 today. 99 years old today.

[Joe Getty]

Happy birthday. Dick hooked up a fire hose to.

[Jack Armstrong]

His pool and was trying to spray off the house himself. Exhausted himself so much I Get so tired of my. I'm half his age to do things like that. I can't imagine being 99.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Wow. Sounds great.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, man. Genetics and lifestyle. I don't know how much of it is which.

[Joe Getty]

But yeah, I got some doctor friends who. Well, genetics you've got to have, because my dad has.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, my dad absolutely has, like the Dick Van Dyke genetics.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. Absolutely.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

There's certainly no reason not to be healthy. But you know what I'm driving at.

[Jack Armstrong]

All those times he tripped over the ottoman and didn't break a hip or anything.

[Joe Getty]

What a talented dude. Oh, my gosh. And a good man, too, by all accounts.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was referring to the opening of the Dick Van Dyke show, which was in black and white. That's how old that show is. And so his heyday was what, 1960? Is that when he was like, at the peak of his popularity? Long before we were born?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, is. I mean, he continued to be a beloved figure in movies. Sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. That sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was old when he was in those Disney movies when I was a kid, though.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Elon tweets about Doge a lot, the Department of Government Efficiency, because he's going to be the guy running it with Vivek Ramaswamy. He tweets out various programs that are wasting money or statistics. He comes across. It's really interesting. If you don't follow what you should, you should be on Twitter and you should follow us. But Peter Thiel, one of his buddies from the old PayPal mafia, they all became super rich out of the inventing PayPal and all what their separate ways and did different great things. Got retweeted by Elon today. Peter Thiel saying the strong consensus view in the D.C. establishment is that this is going to go nowhere, that it's just absolutely impossible to fix things, and this is going to be a very frustrating dead end. The alternate view, I would say, is you should never bet against Elon. We all know there's an extraordinary amount of waste and it's unsustainable. The 6% GDP deficits the US has cannot be sustained. They probably can't even be sustained for the rest of this decade, let alone longer. See, that's the thing. There is a math equation involved in here. You. I, I'm frustrated that even some of my favorite pundits are going with. He's nibbling around the edges. It won't make a difference. Ah. How about directionally we do something?

[Joe Getty]

What.

[Jack Armstrong]

What is your. What is your answer? Nothing. Do nothing.

[Joe Getty]

And let's direct people's gaze at the growing impossibility of dealing with this enormous debt.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. No kidding.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

As amazing as Elon is, with all the different things that he's accomplished, making electric cars, even possibly viable or space stuff or whatever, he's up against the most immovable object in the history of immovable objects, the United States Federal bureaucracy. So I don't like his chances. But I'm all for trying. And any even incremental accomplishment I feel like is good.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right. Yeah, I would agree. Just in dollars and cents, you're 100% right. But I think there's an even greater significance to the. What would you call it? Flushing them out of the underbrush and letting DC show its true colors. Make them fight you on making legitimate cuts. Get awareness going among the American people. Let's talk about how much we all owe per person. Let's talk about public employee unions. Let's talk about the fact that FDR thought they were a terrible idea, just unworkable. And now Trump's new Secretary of labor is staunchly in favor of public employee unions. What the hell is going on there anyway? It's worth the fight. Absolutely worth it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or talk about how no government or society has ever survived this sort of excess spending. Ever. It always ends the same way.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

No, we're going to be already spending.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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