Sand In Your Ice Cream

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Sand In Your Ice Cream
Date: October 7, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the controversies surrounding Western entertainers performing in Saudi Arabia, focusing on issues of free speech and hypocrisy. The hosts also explore uproar in the media regarding Barry Weiss’s appointment as CBS News Director and dissect the fallout from violent rhetoric by a Democratic Attorney General candidate in Virginia. The episode closes with commentary on COVID guidelines, doomscrolling, and a humorous look at LeBron James’ penchant for self-promotion.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Comedians & Celebrities Performing in Saudi Arabia

(03:04–09:00)

• Context: Big-name American comedians like Dave Chappelle and Kevin Hart are participating in the Saudi Riyadh Comedy Festival for massive payouts. This invites criticism because of Saudi Arabia’s human rights record.

• Hypocrisy Argument:

  • Joe Getty: Criticizes comedians for taking money from the Saudis while claiming to support progressive values, quoting David Cross's frustration.

    "You sign a contract, I won't badmouth Islam or the government here. Do jokes about camels, what's the deal...?" (04:23)

  • Jack Armstrong: Argues that unlike contractors or business deals, comedians' entire personas are often about exposing hypocrisy and championing progressive causes, making this a more pointed contradiction.

    "The thing that bothers me about comedians is the nature of what they do. A concrete contractor...doesn't spend their entire life trying to root out hypocrisy...The comedians do bother me..." (08:27)

• Dave Chappelle's Free Speech Comments:

  • Quoting CBS, Chappelle reportedly said it's "easier to talk here [Saudi Arabia] than it is in America."
    Jack: "That's one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard in my life." (05:13)

• Broader Business Hypocrisy:

  • Jack: Highlights that U.S. companies do business with China and other problematic regimes, raising the question of why Saudi Arabia is singled out.

    "I don't get how you have a gigantic contract with China and it's hunky dory, but it's...awful to do business with the Saudis. I don't see the difference." (07:03)

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2. Barry Weiss at CBS News & Media Freakouts

(09:32–16:32, 22:24–24:48)

• Media Overreaction:

  • The appointment of Barry Weiss, a centrist, former New York Times writer and Substack entrepreneur, as CBS News Director prompted backlash from progressive journalists.
  • Quotes from Jamel Bowie, Nikole Hannah-Jones, and Lydia Polgreen expressing outrage and questioning Weiss's credentials.
    • Jack:

      "Barry Weiss was a junior editor who occasionally wrote opinion pieces...not a columnist." (10:44)

  • Joe: Defends Weiss’s accomplishments, noting she built a news empire with significant reach.

    "She started with three people and built an empire...revenue of $150 million a year...but no, she shouldn’t be running CBS News?" (11:27)

• Double Standards Highlighted:

  • Jack: Compares dismissing Weiss’s qualifications to saying, "Barack Obama had zero talent as a politician...that’s just stupid." (12:29)

• Impact on Iconic Programs:

  • Concern expressed about how much influence Weiss will have on “60 Minutes,” referencing a previous segment about German speech police that praised censorship.

    "Hopefully Barry Weiss has some influence on that sort of news story." (13:45)

• Salon.com and Staffer Reactions:

  • Satirizes the hyperbolic reactions from CBS staffers, arguing many newsrooms confuse advocacy with journalism.
    • Jack: "You're entirely one sided. You are an advocacy wing of the Democratic Party. You don't do journalism anymore." (15:52)
    • Joe: "You people need to quit. If you work at CBS and you have that attitude..." (15:34)

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3. Virginia Attorney General Candidate’s Violent Rhetoric

(28:29–34:53)

• Backstory:

  • Democratic AG candidate Jay Jones is under fire for texts fantasizing about shooting a GOP lawmaker and wishing for his child’s death as motivation for gun control.
    • Jack: "If these guys go before me, I will go to their funeral to piss on their grave...Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head." (29:45)

• Democratic Response:

  • The party rallies around Jones despite his apology and extreme rhetoric.
    • Joe: "Can you do something completely abhorrent and then just say, I’m sorry. I take full responsibility and get...now that it's causing negative consequences, I would like to apologize and get any credit for it?" (32:36)
    • Jack: "I would never say something like that because I never have and I never would." (33:19)

• Larger Implications:

  • Armstrong emphasizes how prosecutors and AGs wield significant power over policies, particularly regarding woke agendas and the importance of scrutinizing state races. (34:53)

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4. Political Tribalism & Media Ecosystems

(35:28–38:14)

• Left-Leaning Emotionalism and Intolerance:

  • Discussion on data showing more liberals than conservatives cut off relationships over politics—questioning the emotional tenor and sometimes extremism of progressive politics.
    • Jack: "Leftist politics tend to be much more emotional and emotionalistic..." (36:40)
  • Refers to studies suggesting “triple” the number of Democrats ended friendships over politics as compared to Republicans. (46:16)

• Impact of Political Rhetoric:

  • Warns about narrative that 'the other side is evil' feeding political violence and deepening division. (37:10)

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5. Doomscrolling & Digital Health

(23:42–24:48)

• Doomscrolling Defined:
  • The hosts discuss their own digital habits:
    • Jack: "I would call it more anger scrolling because everybody’s angry all the time online." (24:00)
    • Joe: Notes he turned off his phone’s screen time report out of self-disgust.

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6. COVID Guidance: From Mandates to ‘Individual-Based Decision Making’

(43:44–48:36)

• CDC Shifts Position:
  • The CDC moves to “individual-based decision making” and the hosts dissect (and mock) the notion that people needed to be told to decide for themselves.
    • Joe: "Anybody who's so into the government being in charge...the government should make an announcement: we're now in favor of...individual-based decision making!" (45:53)
    • Jack: Satirizes dependence on government prescriptive orders.

      "Making my own decisions is so confusing. Tell me what to do, Joe Biden, right? Kamala, you hero." (47:10)

  • Both criticize dependence on centralized, one-size-fits-all health advice and media melodrama.

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7. Pop Culture & Sports Lighter Moments

(38:14–39:06, 48:36–50:15)

• LeBron James’ ‘Big Announcement’:

  • Satire of the famous “Decision” TV special, only for LeBron to announce a liquor partnership.
    • Jack: "We met, we hit it off, we realized we were both with the wrong person. We’re getting married." (38:50)
    • Joe: "It's hard to take you seriously, dude. Anyway, I know that sucked the will to live." (50:01)

• NFL Stadium Hawks:

  • Brief commentary on the surprising use of trained hawks at SoFi Stadium to scare away pooping birds. (43:03)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Dave Chappelle’s Saudi Arabia remarks:

  • Jack Armstrong:

    "That's one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard in my life. And I've heard some idiotic things." (05:13)

• On business with dubious regimes:

  • Jack Armstrong:

    "America does trillions of dollars of business with China, not to mention several other loathsome regimes. And it seems to me that the Saudis get singled out in kind of a weird way." (07:03)

• On media double standards for Barry Weiss:

  • Joe Getty:

    "She started with three people and built an empire in a couple of years where she’s got a revenue of $150 million a year...But no, she shouldn’t be running CBS News..." (11:27)

• On violent political rhetoric:

  • Joe Getty:

    "Can you do something completely abhorrent and then just say, 'I’m sorry. I take full responsibility,' and get [forgiven]?" (32:36)

• On CDC COVID guidance:

  • Joe Getty:

    "Anybody who's so into the government being in charge that thinks that they should, the government should make an announcement. 'We're now in favor of what we call individual based decision making.' Yeah, I'm in favor of that. All day, every day, my whole freaking life." (45:53)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:04–09:00 — Celebrities and comedians in Saudi Arabia - hypocrisy and free speech
• 09:32–16:32 — Barry Weiss as CBS News Director and media blowback
• 22:24–24:48 — Doomscrolling and digital health
• 28:29–34:53 — Virginia AG candidate’s violent rhetoric and party response
• 35:28–38:14 — Political tribalism, intolerance, and media ecosystems
• 43:44–48:36 — COVID guidelines, CDC's new stance, and government guidance parody
• 38:14–39:06 & 48:36–50:15 — LeBron James and lighter moments

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Episode Tone & Style

• Direct and often sarcastic—the hosts relentlessly satirize media overreactions and virtue signaling.
• Conversational and opinionated, peppered with self-deprecating humor and cutting asides.
• Pop culture references and asides intersperse heavier news and media criticism.

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This summary covers the main themes, important debates, and the distinctive voices of Armstrong & Getty, making it accessible for those who missed the episode but want to understand its content and spirit.

Transcript

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The Riyadh Comedy Festival is pulling some of the biggest names in stand up to Saudi Arabia, including Dave Chappelle and Kevin Hart.

[Jack Armstrong]

Your Majesty, your highness, me, you, friends, you here next time.

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The Saudi government's reportedly paying some of them over a million dollars each to perform. It may seem incongruous in Saudi Arab, an ultra conservative Islamic kingdom, but in recent years, the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has tried to reshape his country's image, investing billions in sporting events and entertainment, including the recent takeover of Electronic Arts, an American video game powerhouse.

[Joe Getty]

And occasionally bone sawing a journalist if they say something negative about the kingdom.

[Jack Armstrong]

Barbaric.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So this is an interesting story. We've talked about it a couple of times. DAVID cross, COMEDIAN I really like, I hate David Cross's politics, but I like his comedy. But he doesn't like that some of his favorite liberal progressive comedians are over there taking a million dollars from the Saudis when they abuse women, gays, everything.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they're against everything progressive comedians claim to be for.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And so you sign a contract, I won't badmouth Islam or the government here. Do jokes about camels, what's the deal, one hump or two, huh? Or whatever they do comedy about, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

Particularly the jokes about sand, sand in your craw, sand in your ice cream, a lot of sand humor.

[Joe Getty]

Particularly the fact that Dave Chappelle made some comment about free speech in Saudi Arabia. Well, let's play this clip. This is from CBS News.

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We reached out to Kevin Hart and Dave Chappelle for comment, but they didn't respond. Chappelle apparently said on stage in Saudi Arabia that it's, quote, easier to talk here than it is in America. Now, many Saudis I've met on reporting trips to the country would disagree with that claim about freedom of speech inside the kingdom.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Thank you for that. Holly Williams.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard in my life. And I've heard some idiotic things.

[Joe Getty]

Holly Williams of CBS News, I think being pretty kind with that, the way she put that. Yeah, my years of reporting here in Saudi Arabia, a lot of people would disagree with that hole. There's more free speech here. What a Dave Chappelle, one of the great truth tellers in America, goes over and says that somebody pointed out that.

[Jack Armstrong]

He converted to Islam in his teens and you know, he's been making Jokes about the trans thing, which land better in Saudi Arabia. But that's just. Again, that is one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard. You're freer to speak here than in America. Good Lord.

[Joe Getty]

Well, how about so take it out of the realm of this? Just like, what about the musical acts that go over there? You know, whether you're Mariah Carey or who's the billionaire? Rihanna. You're those Kona people. And you go over there and you do a birthday party for a Saudi prince. Do you have any problem with that? You know, I. I wouldn't do it if I'm already ungodly wealthy. No, I'm not gonna go freaking be your dancing monkey in a country with no freedom whatsoever because you can afford it. I'm not doing it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, first of all, they actually have dancing monkeys, so that would be redundant. But you know, on one level, if these celebrities are obnoxious, you know, ideological presences online and spout off in their concerts about progressive values, then they go take money from the Saudis. I really don't have a lot of interest in them. Of course, I didn't have any interest in them spouting their opinion already. So, yes, they're hypocrites and jackasses, but America does trillions of dollars of business with China, not to mention several other loathsome regimes. And it seems to me that the Saudis get singled out in kind of a weird way. And I'm as hardcore anti radical Islam as anybody on the air, I think. And I just. I don't get how you have a gigantic contract with China and it's hunky dory, but it's. It's awful to do business with the Saudis. I don't see the difference.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. Joe would go perform for the crown prince and bend the knee. All right, well, that's.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a bit much. But it. And it depends on the nature of what you do, too. If I'm like a concrete contractor and they want me to consult on the foundation of some building they're building, yeah, I'd go take that gig.

[Joe Getty]

I would, too.

[Jack Armstrong]

But would I, as a talk show host, go over there and whore for the Saudis? Well, it depends on the number, frankly.

[Joe Getty]

I'm just surprised, though. Like, if you're already wealthy, I just. Why, for, like, David Cross, the comedian, said, what, so Louis CK And Dave Chappelle can get a. Another boat or what? What are you. Why are you even doing this?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. To me, you're either working or you're not working.

[Joe Getty]

There's plenty of places to work that aren't freaking Saudi Arabia.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not paying with the. Not paying what? MBS pays. No.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, well I have standards and apparently nobody else does.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I'm just saying. I get it. The thing that bothers me about comedians is the nature of what they do. A concrete contractor, designer or whatever doesn't spend their entire life trying to root out hypocrisy and bring people to the truth through humor or whatever. It's a different beast. The comedians do bother me, but a singer who goes up there and does a 40 minute set and gets an enormous amount of money, I don't, I don't care. As long as Nike has factories in China. I just don't see the distinction.

[Joe Getty]

But I repeat myself, I own Nikes. Who's the hypocrite now, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know if that's. I don't think this me having Nikes because it fits my narrow foot is the same as Dave Chappelle going perform for ambience.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, narrow foot, narrow foot. Yeah. Oh yeah. I embraced Hitler back in the 30s because you know, I had narrow feet. Good narrow footed shoes that the Chinese are loathsome. Perfectly the matter with you.

[Joe Getty]

Perfectly fair response anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, okay. How. Welcome to Armstrong and Gettys how to argue unfairly seminar. So speaking of hypocrisy and the media and that sort of thing, this is just, it's so delicious. I'm a bad person. I'm enjoying this much more than I should. All of the freakouts at CBS News over a moderate left lesbian woman becoming the news director. Absolute freakouts by staffers posting online. Three different editorials in the New York Times. Three really saying how bad and ugly this is.

[Joe Getty]

So Barry Weiss is going to be the news director at CBS and they think it's just awful. Well, I don't even know how what you describe her politics. I mean she's pro choice.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's married.

[Joe Getty]

She's married to a woman. Yeah, she's center left. So center left is just two. That's funny. I ran into this situation just the other day in my personal life where like center left wouldn't be good enough for this person. You're either a full on progressive or you're a Nazi.

[Jack Armstrong]

New York Times columnist Jamel Bowie, who is a Marxist, quote, looking forward to Barry Weiss restoring trust in news where trust in news means pumping out propaganda for your oligarch boss. New York Times magazine writer and professional liar and race baiting. Racist Nicole Hannah Jones, quote. In case it wasn't clear, the anti DEI crusade has never been about merit. Zero news experience, never been a reporter elevated to editor in chief of CBS News, one of the most storied institutions in the country.

[Joe Getty]

You got to be kidd me one.

[Jack Armstrong]

More because I know what you're about to say. New York Times columnist Lydia Polgreen, not to be a pedant, but Barry Weiss was a junior editor who occasionally wrote opinion pieces in the opinion section, not a columnist.

[Joe Getty]

And just, she just said, we were talking about this yesterday how Commentary magazine was wrote a piece about. It's one of the most amazing media success stories ever. She started with three people and built an empire in a couple of years where she's got a revenue of $150 million a year doing some of the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Best journalism with the best writers and researchers and reporters that have ever been assembled. But no, she shouldn't be running CBS News because, you know, she was really just a junior editor, occasionally wrote opinion pieces, not even a columnist. And the oligarch boss thing was ridiculous. But Nicole Hannah Jones, never been a reporter, zero news experience. She just built an effing news empire that blows the New York Times out of the water. How do people get themselves to say this garbage? They're actually crazy.

[Joe Getty]

And there's, I mean, seriously, it's like.

[Jack Armstrong]

A conservative like me saying Barack Obama had zero talent as a politician.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right, right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, that's just, that's just stupid. Oh, well.

[Joe Getty]

So there's been talk about, you know, how much influence will she have on the Golden Prize? That is 60 Minutes, probably the most prized news thing anywhere. And I came across this from Mary Catherine Ham of Fox reminding us we talked about this a lot last year. 60 Minutes last year did it. Oh, God. You got distracted because her name's amazing. That's just fantastic. I can't talk to you about anybody whose name sounds like anything that's food related because you go, Homer Simpson. Anyway, she reminded everybody and we talked about this at the time. Remember that story 60 Minutes did last year? That glowing 13 minute profile of German speech police with the police officers raiding a guy's home and his computer because of a cartoon they didn't like. And 60 Minutes presented of isn't this fantastic? People are scared to say various things because the government keeps track of misinformation and disinformation. And they presented that as a good thing. So hopefully Barry Weiss has some influence on that sort of news story.

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[Joe Getty]

Oh my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fears of political interference and layoffs.

[Joe Getty]

So you think the job CBS was doing was fantastic?

[Jack Armstrong]

An anonymous CBF staffer talked to the Guardian. A throwing up emoji is not enough of a reflection of the feeling in here. What the f? Another CBS source posted. People are using words like depressing in doomsday, wrote another. Feels like some sort of doomsday. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, you people need to quit. You need to go. If you work at CBS and you have that attitude. And good on Paramount because imagine the heat that they're taking. They're getting lots of emails and texts and snide comments to cocktail parties and whatnot. And they they went ahead and did this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's a priceless one. There's more, but from CNN Chief Media Analyst the eunuch Brian Stelter, CBS News desperately needs someone to supercharge its digital strategy. Maybe the free press can help. But staffers reading this morning's memos are left to wonder, what exactly do the new bosses think we're doing wrong? What do they think you're doing wrong? You're entirely one sided. You are an advocacy wing of the Democratic Party. You don't do journalism anymore. That's What? Brian Stelter, Chief Media Analyst oh my God. What a waste of skin he is. He needs to donate his skin to burn victims. He's wasting it.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God. All right, we'll recover from that and have more later.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Democrats are adamant that we must protect.

[Joe Getty]

The health care of the American people. But if you would stop there that would be great. But you're gonna keep talking, aren't you? Aren't you?

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

KFF could be Kentucky French Fries. I know Orange.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who is that?

[Joe Getty]

Joke. Even for six year olds that watch C Span. What the are you doing?

[Jack Armstrong]

Chuck Schumer is a human flat tire.

[Joe Getty]

That's a good line. He's a human flat tire.

[Jack Armstrong]

The prospect of aoc for goodness sakes. With all the legislation she's passed and.

[Joe Getty]

That doesn't matter anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're what a year year old coalition she's built.

[Joe Getty]

You're talking about a different generation.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's not what you're being a senator running against Chuck Schumer. Oh my gosh, these are some strange times.

[Joe Getty]

And the shutdown. Oh the. The thing I want to mention at Least once an hour because you're going to hear it a lot. The shutdown is finally going to reach you as air traffic controllers aren't going to work since they're not being paid and so you might want to check on your flights, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nobody's missed a paycheck. We're at least a week away from missing a single dime of what you make. So air traffic controls don't go to work today. That's a political stance. It's not a I have to stay home with my kids because I can't afford something or other. I don't even know what the argument would be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, it's got to be the Democratic Party putting out the word to the employee. Public employee unions. Hey, we've got to make this hurt to swing people to our side. So you got to start calling in for work or whatever. More quotes of people freaking out at CBS News and all over the liberal media about Barry Weiss, a center left Jewish lesbian, taking the helmet. CBS portraying her like she's Herman Goering or something like that. I mean it is just, just astonishing. We'll get to that. Oh, also the, the controversy over the guy running for attorney general in Virginia. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, I don't even pay attention to my own state's races other than governor.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why are you going to torture us with that? There's some really interesting dynamics at play there. This guy is an enthusiastic spreader of really disgusting violent rhetoric toward Republicans, including Republicans he knows and works with. And in this era of Charlie Kirk's assassination and political violence, his party is rushing to embrace him and saying, oh, he took full responsibility. He's fine. We gotta keep him on the ticket. They have no principles. So more on that to come as well. I can't remember what else were we going to talk about here?

[Joe Getty]

Do you doom scroll?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I try to stop.

[Joe Getty]

Describe, define doom scrolling. What counts as doom scrolling? Because I don't think I'm looking, I don't think I'm looking for doom when I start scrolling.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, but so much of what's online that you can scroll through ends up being, I would call it more anger scrolling because everybody's angry all the time online. Excuse me.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I had a, I had something on is on my watch or my phone or somewhere that would, would tell me every day how many hours I spent looking at my phone. And I turned that off at some point because I thought, what's the point? But maybe I'd turn that back on I had. I don't know how often I stare at my phone and then at the end of the day think you really you spent that many hours a day. That's not the way you want to live your life.

[Jack Armstrong]

It'd be nice if it it's pointed out which app for which amount of time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Or which site that would be handy. Yeah, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

If. If you're reading classic literature. That's different than just flipping through Twitter getting angrier and angry.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, and most of it's fake anyway. Not even real.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Coming up, an attorney general candidate in Virginia is apologizing for his text about a state lawmaker. We'll go through what the message is.

[Joe Getty]

Probably be forced to withdraw from the race and probably is doing a lot there.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Morning Joe. We'll be right back.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's funny. I saw that live yesterday. I didn't have any idea what they were talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Kevin Cork of Fox News is going to give us some of the facts. It has to do with Democratic attorney general nominee Jay Jones in Virginia and he's to me a beautiful test case of all right, you said we've got to calm down the rhetoric. Do you actually believe that? Are you willing to call out your own side or not? Democratic Party? KEVIN Cork, FOX NEWS here.

[Joe Getty]

Sometimes political ads really cut through and they change the tone and tenor of a race. And that well may be the case tonight in the race for attorney general and the state of Virginia, Democrat Jay Jones is under increasing pressure to bow out. It was his August 2022 text messages about then state House Speaker Republican Todd Gilbert, which included the phrase, three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. What?

[Jack Armstrong]

So what? Yeah, this guy wrote to a colleague, among other things, if these guys go before me, I will go to their funeral to piss on their grave and send them out a wash in something. He then suggested three people, two bullets. Gilbert. That's House delegate Todd Gilbert. Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler and Pol Pot Gilbert. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. Spoiler. He writes, put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets every time. And the colleague.

[Joe Getty]

That's a crazy person.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. Oh, it gets worse. The colleague who he was sending that text to said, jay, please stop. And he said, lol, lol. Okay, okay. And she said, it really bothers me when you talk about hurting people or wishing death on them. It isn't okay no matter who they are. And he called her up and berated her and said maybe he would change his mind. They were talking about banning guns or some gun. Gun control thing. He said, I like to see their kid die in his mother's arms. Maybe then he would change his mind. I'd like to see that.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, well, I. Whatever. Scarborough said, yeah, he's got to drop out of the race yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's crazy. Completely crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

So here is the ad that's running.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

It's so disgusting. It's hard to believe, but it's true. One more bit from Kevin Cork, then I have comments, obviously.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Well, Jones, for his part, has issued a statement apologizing for the text, writing, in part, I've reached out to Speaker Gilbert to apologize directly to him, his wife Jennifer, and their children. I cannot take back what I said. I can only take full accountability and offer my sincere apology. Worse still, for Jones, the negative spillover could also impact the governor's race in the Commonwealth, where fellow Democrat Abigail Spanberger has expressed disgust with the comments but has yet to call on Jones to step aside, opening her up for criticism from Lt. Governor Winsome Sears, her opponent, and even President Trump, who has demanded Jones step out of that race. Okay, on a macro level, before we get to the specifics of this, we've got to decide as a society, can you do something completely abhorrent and then just say, I'm sorry. I take full responsibility and get.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now that it's causing negative consequences, I would like to apologize and get any credit for it.

[Joe Getty]

Like P. Diddy on Friday. I'm very sorry that I did that. I take full responsibility. You're a monster. You need to. You need to have some sort of I have come to God or I got therapy or I was on drugs or something to make me believe you've changed. You can't just take say and this guy too. I'm, you know, I take full responsibility for calling for the death of my opponent. I apologize.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, what, fantasizing about his wife watching their children die in her arms because they deserve it.

[Joe Getty]

No, you need to convince me you're not that kind of guy anymore or wasn't then or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't need to apologize for saying something like that because I never have and I never would. You did help me understand that if I were interviewing, that's what I would say. And he said something about, yeah, people need to feel consequences to change their policies or something. That's terrible. But why does this matter? Number one, attorneys general, county prosecutors, we've learned, have enormous power to either implement WOKE policies or not implement WOKE policies. And Virginia is a big important state. Second, his the the gal was running for governor. Spanberger was a hardcore woke up with transgender boys and girls bathrooms, boys and girls locker rooms, boys and girls sports. And Winsome Sears, the charming lieutenant governor who's running against her, pointed that out. And so this Span Burger liars running ads with her. I think it's two daughters in the ad and saying people or my opponent is spreading lies about me. I love my daughters and I've worked to protect girls in schools and protect their rights my whole career. I stand up for little girls like my daughters. I'm what's her face? Span Burger. I mean, it's just, it is the far left with boys and girls locker rooms and fantasizing about shooting their opponents in the head, masquerading as mainstream Democrats. And these people, and there are probably people like them in your state too, they need to be defeated.

[Joe Getty]

So is there anything controversial about this Gilbert person that he believes should be shot?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it was my understanding was it was over there had been some sort of school shooting or something like that. And. And this J. Jones lunatic wanted to pass some sweeping gun control legislation. And Gilbert said essentially, no, you can't do that. We've got second Amendment issues. And the problem is, you know, crazy people want to hurt People, blah, blah, blah. And so he went into this fantasy about murdering Jones.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so, Gilbert, here's the question, and I don't actually know the answer to this. I really want to be an honest broker, fair arbiter of this thing of how much of the left is crazy versus how much of the right is crazy. But it sure seems to me that lefty lunatics are way quicker to the either disown, you can't marry, you think you should be dead.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, 100% side of things. There was a major poll that we talked a lot about where it was something like seven times as many Democrats had said they'd ended friendships over politics as Republicans did. It was overwhelming. Sure feels, and if that number is wrong, I apologize, I don't have it in front of me. But it was an overwhelming difference.

[Joe Getty]

But it sure feels that way to me. I don't, I mean, I, I. Most people, I'm family members, close friends are. Their politics are similar to me. And I don't hear them saying things like, I would never date of this or I would, you know, that person should be shot or in this. But I hear that a lefty people that I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

All the time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Leftist politics tend to be much more emotional and emotionalistic, meaning they're based on emotion as opposed to fact, or like a sober analysis of what policies work better. I remember that point. You combine that with the longtime narrative that Republicans aren't wrong, they're evil, they're fascists, they want to oppress you, they want to kill you if you're transgender. I mean, if you get people, overly emotional people or mentally disturbed people to believe that they will commit acts of violence believing they're 100% justified, we should.

[Joe Getty]

Try to dig that poll back up again. I kind of remember it, but, man, I just. I've bumped into that sort of thing recently a number of times, and just seems like you're way overreacting to the fact that you don't agree politically with my side, the other side.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Well, it always shocks me. Well, it used to shock me, as a fairly cynical, longtime observer of political language, that there are people who 100% believe their sides, propaganda or messaging, whatever you want to call it, I mean, they. They fully believe it. They think it's 100% sincere and accurate. I even hear people I agree with going over the top, and I think, you know, same old, same old. I separate the part that's true from the part that's just meant to fire people up and get their donations and stuff. But there are a lot of people on the left who believe every word. They actually believe conservatives who, for instance, don't want a boy in a girl's locker room that they want to kill transgender people because they've heard it over and over again.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, so Today is the 15 year anniversary of one of the most mocked things that has happened in sports. LeBron James. Big prime time television announcement of he was living his team and going to a different team but he made a last night said he had a another giant announcement to make today and it just came out and well, I'll tell.

[Jack Armstrong]

You what it was Taylor Swift.

[Joe Getty]

If you're a Laker fan, he's got a new sports drink that would be pretty huge. I'm marrying Taylor Swift.

[Jack Armstrong]

We met, we hit it off, we realized we were both with the wrong person. We're getting married.

[Joe Getty]

I assume Travis Kelsey would have something to say about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's heartbreak broken, obviously.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, we'll do that briefly and other things when we come back.

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[Joe Getty]

Those two trained Hawks, Alice and Bubba.

[Jack Armstrong]

Were stolen outside Sofi Stadium during a.

[Joe Getty]

Rams game last weekend.

[Jack Armstrong]

They FL above NFL games to keep other birds away.

[Joe Getty]

Well now their falconer tells us Bubba.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was recovered about 30 miles away. He says he's hopeful they'll find Alice soon.

[Joe Getty]

So Sofi stadium has trained hawks to keep other birds away during Chargers and Rams games.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because of the pooping?

[Joe Getty]

Because of the pooping.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because of the pooping.

[Joe Getty]

Is that a problem that people have? Do they get to. I was going to use the past tense word for. But do they get dropped upon by birds games?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not really familiar with it as an issue, but yeah, that's, that's, that's the problem. So many buildings have the pigeon spikes and you know, whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Does every stadium have trained hawks to keep birds away? This is all new to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I, I don't know. It depends on the shape of it. I think the problem with some of the new like semi domes is that the birds would be over the field or over the fans. You like got an old timey football stadium them. No, it's just, it's kind of a rectangle and the birds would sit and.

[Joe Getty]

Just, you know, thank God Bubba the hawk is all right. And thank God you're all right. Even though you haven't gotten the most recent Covid shot. I know you're all thinking about the COVID vaccine. Is it time for my next shot? Where can I get it? A topic of conversation with me and all my friends constantly. This is the way David Muir approached it on the ABC evening news last night. Confusion over getting a Covid shot this year. The CDC is now urging what they're calling, quote, individual based decision making, Pushing people to consult with their doctor or pharmacist before getting the vaccine. The CDC also saying for those who want the shot, saying the strongest risk benefit in their words, for people at high risk for severe Covid includes those over 65. Most insurance still covers the cost of COVID shots.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Anybody who's been paying attention has known that since like late 2020.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And play the beginning part there again. Confusion over getting a Covid shot. And keep going.

[Jack Armstrong]

Only among you people still, you cultists still wearing masks.

[Joe Getty]

Do it again because I want that second line to confusion over getting a Covid shot this year. The CDC is now urging what they're calling, quote, individual based decision making. That's the point. That's what I like. That's what I like. We've gotten away from I just. For all of us who are just strictly following the CDC guidelines no matter what. And the CDC was still saying we should get. Now we're doing whatever it's called. Individual based. You mean making up my own mind Based on my own information and what I think is a good idea. Yeah, that's why I've been doing it the whole time.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do what the government tells me. I just always do what they tell me. Now they're asking me to make decisions as an individual. I feel abandoned.

[Joe Getty]

Anybody who's so into the government being in charge that thinks that they should, the government should make an announcement. We're now in favor of what we call individual based decision making. Yeah, I'm in favor of that. All day, every day, my whole freaking life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, no kidding.

[Joe Getty]

Individual based decision making. I'll make my decisions of what I think is a good idea or not. You don't need to tell me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would end a friendship over a mask wearing Covid cultist. And by the way, it's. It's triple. It was triple the number of Democrats than Republicans who have ended a friendship over politics. And among younger lefties, it's shocking numbers. Like a third of them say they would not want to be friends with someone who voted for a different presidential candidate.

[Joe Getty]

That Covid thing, I mean, to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

You'Re away the vote until you're 25. I'm firmly. I will march on that.

[Joe Getty]

Cause on the David Muir Covid thing, you're a certain sort of person that could ever even utter the phrase, David individual based decision trees or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah. You mean the way I'm teaching my kids to live their lives, take in information and make your own decisions? That's the way I think. What are you even talking about? Individual based decision making?

[Jack Armstrong]

I would, I would much rather just get in a pen, be fed, be sheared every so often. Do exactly what the government tells me to do. Are there people making my own decisions is so confusing. Tell me what to do. Joe Biden, right? Kamala, you hero.

[Joe Getty]

The first thing he said there, all the confusion. Who is confused? Who's confused? Are there people that get up in the morning and log on the CDC website to see what they're recommending for me? Well, it doesn't seem like I ought to get another COVID vaccine, but the government website says I should. But now we're moving into individual based decision making to where you can decide on your own. Well, that's fantastic. Individual.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right. What about sawing off my ear with a steak knife? There's no guidance on that either. I don't know what to do. I need guidance. All these individual based decisions are killing me for some reason.

[Joe Getty]

I was just offended by that very phrase last night when I watched this individual based decision making.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that's what the Trump administration is calling it. They're encouraging people to decide as individuals if it's important and right for you. And yes, you're most at risk if you're old or otherwise ill. Everybody has known that since 2020. David, everyone, unless you are a robot, just suck in left wing news. And you're still wearing a mask alone in a park cause you're nuts.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so different topic. If you're a sports fan. You knew this 15 years ago today. LeBron James made this big thing about. He was gonna. He started with the Cleveland Cavaliers. He grew up in that town. He was playing for his hometown team. And then he was gonna leave somewhere else and he made this big primetime special announcement. Then they made a big deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hilarious.

[Joe Getty]

And it got mocked endlessly and it should have. It was just ridiculous. It was so. Look at me, I'm the focus of everybody's attention. Just, it was just. It was the most off putting thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of the most self congratulatory acts I have ever witnessed in any realm. Sports, politics, medicine, anything.

[Joe Getty]

It really was. God, it was such a bad look. Anyway, it's a 15 year anniversary and last night he, he, he said I've got the second decision to make the next big announcement. And there was a lot of speculation because he is 40, in his 40s and is in his last year of his contract that he announced he is going to retire. And of course that would also be kind of a pathetic. Hey, everybody, look at me. This needs to be a giant show with everybody staring at me with the spotlight on me or whatever. Anywho, his announcement, apparently that's coming in like three minutes is he's teaming up with Hennessy for some sort of limited. Limited. What is Hennessy A drink.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a liquor, a booze.

[Joe Getty]

It's gonna be a liquor or a liqueur. There's gonna be a LeBron James branded Hennessy.

[Jack Armstrong]

God's sake.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's hard to take you seriously, dude. Anyway, I know that sucked.

[Jack Armstrong]

The will to live.

[Joe Getty]

I know. I think, I think that's the way it's going to be met. I don't think he knows that that's the way it's going to be met, but that's the way it's going to be met.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, mainstream media. The guy who went to kill Brett Kavanaugh is a dude. He is a man. We'll talk about that next hour. If you don't get next hour. Oh no, you can just subscribe to our podcast Armstrong and Yeti on Demand. Everything's okay again.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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