Shirtless, Bedraggled & Unwashed

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Shirtless, Bedraggled & Unwashed

Date: November 6, 2025
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand (iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, featuring news anchor Katie Green

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Armstrong & Getty dig into the looming impact of the federal government shutdown on holiday travel, the official retirement announcement of Nancy Pelosi, soaring affordability concerns in America, viral social media scandals, and generational shifts in housing. The conversation moves seamlessly between biting satire, earnest social commentary, and their trademark irreverence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Federal Shutdown & Holiday Travel Chaos

[00:40–03:19, 08:43–11:59, 21:49–25:19]

• General Manager of the Day: Jack and Joe center on the misery of possible ruined holiday plans due to the government shutdown's effect on air travel.
  • Jack Armstrong: “Oh, boy, will they be this screwed.” [00:54]
• The “Schumer shutdown” is now more real, not just political theater.
  • Joe Getty: “It took a month, but now it's real. Now it matters, like everybody.” [01:09]
• As of the episode recording, the FAA is imposing a 10% cut to flights at 40 major airports starting almost immediately, affecting thousands of travelers.
  • Joe Getty: “Thousands of flights canceled... Frontier Airlines is announced, buy a backup ticket... United Airlines has announced they're going to refund... this is just the beginning.” [08:53–09:19]
• The pressure point of Thanksgiving is discussed as an inevitable moment of reckoning for politicians.
  • Joe Getty: “It would affect everybody’s travel plans... You would have one very angry electorate.” [02:13]
  • Jack Armstrong: “To play that fast and loose with abusing people and the things that matter to them most…” [02:32]
• Frontier’s advice to “buy a backup ticket” sparks incredulity about affording two tickets.
• The disruption is expected to “cascade,” leading to packed roads, full hotels, and total travel chaos.
  • Jack Armstrong: “Everything gets crazy fast when people can't travel around like they're supposed to.” [11:32]
• Memorable Phrase:
  • Jack Armstrong: “That's the American spirit, though, isn’t it?” [03:37]

2. Political Dysfunction & Messaging

[00:54–01:55]

• Ongoing criticism of inept Republican messaging amid the shutdown.
  • Jack Armstrong: “Any Republican messaging continues to be just miserably bad. But I won't harp on about that.” [01:15]
• Call for a more modern, repetitive, and cohesive message for a nation of 340 million.

3. Satirical "F Y'All Can" Political Party

[02:45–03:39, 05:11]

• Jack jokes about creating the “F Y’All Can” political party and even demands T-shirts (“very, very sharp”) for the movement.
  • Jack Armstrong: “This is my new political party. I created. I’m tired of y’…” [03:19]
  • Joe Getty: “And our logo is a damned eagle in front of a couple of stripes and a couple of stars. Very American.” [03:24]
• Delivers a send-up of widespread disgust with mainstream parties.

4. Football in the American Spirit

[03:42–05:11, 11:44–11:53]

• Ties in the anniversary of the first college football game (1869), which was closer to soccer.
  • Joe Getty: “In the first football game, they were not allowed to carry the football or throw it. In other news, and I thought, what?” [04:21]
• They humorously lament how un-American it would be if modern football reverted to those old rules.
• Joe Getty: “Imagine watching... Broncos Raiders tonight and they announce no running or throwing... I ain't watching.” [11:44]

5. Breaking News: Nancy Pelosi’s Retirement

[05:28–07:33, 34:20–36:15]

• Katie Green breaks the news that Nancy Pelosi will not run for reelection. Jack and Joe satirically recall her long career, effectiveness, and poke at her accumulated wealth.
  • Joe Getty: “More. One of the most effective politicians of my lifetime will not run for reelection in 2026. Why? Because she's a million years old. But man, she was good in her prime.” [05:57]
  • Jack Armstrong: “Good looking gal too. Back before electricity. Wow. Wow.” [06:24]
• Noting the pattern: “How does everybody go off to government... and then leave wealthy?” [07:05]
• Fantasize about the Founding Fathers viewing modern political corruption.

6. Social Media, Scandals, and Human Decency

[13:25–14:19]

• Discuss a viral claim that a widow faked tears at a public event, expressing disgust at the cynicism on display.
  • Jack Armstrong: “That’s monstrous. Somebody who would say that out loud is monstrous.” [14:16]

7. News Roundup with Katie

[14:36–18:32]

• Supreme Court skepticism on Trump’s tariffs ([14:36]).
• Trump administration's SNAP benefits announcement ([15:17]).
• NY Fire Commissioner resigns after Mamdani’s win ([16:33]).
• Hamas fighters in Gaza tunnels ([16:44]).
• U.S. judge orders prison sex change surgery for transgender inmate ([17:18]).
• Kim Kardashian blames ChatGPT for failing law exams; prompts discussion about generative AI’s reliability ([17:52–18:21]).
• Joke from the Babylon Bee about Mamdani’s “horror” at having to work ([18:24]).

8. Affordability Crisis in America

[25:19–33:01]

• “Affordability” declared the word of the week, in both political and real-life contexts.
• Spiraling costs: energy, health insurance ($27,000+ yearly), car insurance, housing.
  • Joe Getty: “I’m still shocked every time I go to the grocery store or go to a restaurant... How would 25 year old me have survived?” [26:46]
• Median age of first-time homebuyers now 40 years old (up from 29 in 1981).
  • Joe Getty: “It was 29 in 1981. That’s how much it has changed now.” [27:22]
• Analysis of sociocultural shifts, such as “prolonged adolescence,” “free-range parenting,” fewer marriages, more transient lifestyles.

9. The Limits of Politicizing the Economy

[30:48–33:19]

• Joe/Jack criticize the oversimplified thinking that credits or blames sitting presidents for economic conditions.
  • Jack Armstrong: “It is yet another perversion of how we ought to look at life and government... They have made the assumption that the government ought to run the economy, which is an incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do.” [31:19]

10. Satirical and Quirky Moments

• Tom Brady’s cloned dog leads to a tongue-in-cheek riff on genetics, nature vs nurture, and celebrity investments ([20:33–21:49; 38:33–39:18]).
• Listeners text with complaints about air travel coverage, prompting amateur psychoanalysis and riffs on “pinched hearts” ([22:26–24:32]).
• The value of civil discourse and John Stuart Mill's theory on truth and opinion ([35:09]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Political Messaging & Dysfunction:
  Jack Armstrong [01:15]:
  "In the modern world, in a country of 340 million people, you've got to have a concise message."

• On the Shutdown’s Reality:
  Joe Getty [08:53]:
  "The FIA is imposing a 10% cut to flights at 40 major airports... This is just the beginning. It's just starting here."

• On Nancy Pelosi’s Effectiveness:
  Joe Getty [05:57]:
  “One of the most effective politicians of my lifetime will not run for reelection in 2026. Why? Because she's a million years old. But man, she was good in her prime."

• On Economic Anxiety:
  Joe Getty [26:46]:
  "I'm still shocked every time I go to the grocery store or go to a restaurant... My son, my high school son last night was saying, 'I don't understand how I'm gonna be able to move out when I'm 18.'”

• Satirical Banter:
  Jack Armstrong [06:24]:
  “Good looking gal too. Back before electricity. Wow. Wow.”

• Affordability as the Core Issue:
  Joe Getty [25:19]:
  “If we were picking a word of the year based on the last 36 hours, it would be ‘affordability’.”

• Perhaps the Funniest:
  Joe Getty [34:42]:
  "Donald Trump was asked about Nancy Pelosi retiring and he said: 'Good. She's evil and corrupt. Get the hell out.'”

• On Societal Changes:
  Jack Armstrong [27:11]:
  “It's moved seven years in four years. That's practically impossible. That's crazy.”

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Important Timestamps

• 00:40–03:19: Government shutdown and political party satire
• 05:28–07:33: Pelosi’s retirement, wealth in politics
• 08:43–11:59, 21:49–25:19: Air travel chaos, direct impact on public life
• 13:25–14:19: Social media scandal, human empathy
• 14:36–18:32: Rapid-fire news headlines with commentary
• 25:19–33:01: Affordability crisis, housing, intergenerational effects
• 34:20–36:15: Pelosi, Trump’s reaction, Mill’s “clash of opinions”
• 38:33–39:18: Listener mailbag, Tom Brady cloning jokes

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Tone & Style

• As always, Jack and Joe balance serious commentary with active wit, sarcasm, and a deep sense of civic responsibility.
• The language is conversational, pointed, and relatable, with asides and direct engagement with the audience's messages.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a quintessential slice of Armstrong & Getty: current events, biting humor, political skepticism, and concern for everyday Americans. The looming holiday travel disaster acts as an anchor while they riff through hot-button stories (Pelosi, AI mishaps, generational inequality), grounding it all in the reality of rising costs and a frazzled electorate. Whether you come for the snark, the analysis, or the rants about the state of the union, it’s a brisk, funny, and thought-provoking listen.

If you missed it, now you know what mattered—and why Armstrong & Getty say, accept no substitutes.

Transcript

[Announcer]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Show Intro Announcer]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here I'm Strong and Getty. Live from Studio C, senor.

[Joe Getty]

It is a dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. You can smell the weekend from here on little Friday. And today we are under the tutelage of our general manager. Your holiday travel plans.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy, will they be this screwed.

[Joe Getty]

S is getting real up in here over the whole shutdown. Now it's real.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Schumer shutdown, Jack.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, it took a month, but now it's real. Now. Now it matters, like everybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

So any Republican messaging continues to be just miserably bad. But I won't harp on about that. I. I need to meet. What's his name? Tom Smith. Mike Johnson. The speaker of the House. If that is his real name. Yes, John. John Doe. And tell him, dude, look, just call me in a 10 minute phone call. We'll agree on some good, simple verbiage all your people can use. I know it's kind of insulting to the intelligence of people that they hear the same talking point over and over again, but in the modern world, in a country of 340 million people, you've got to have a concise message.

[Joe Getty]

And the reason it's getting real is they're gonna cancel tons of flights starting tomorrow to deal with the shortages at the airport. So we've got details on that coming up in a moment, but yeah, it's going to start affecting everyone.

[Jack Armstrong]

I will be so pissed if my family's giant Thanksgiving week plans get messed up, even start.

[Joe Getty]

If it. If. If it's. This is happening over Thanksgiving. It can't. That's a pressure point. That's a pressure point of solving the problem. Thanksgiving? No way. Because, I mean, you would have one very angry electorate if. Because it would affect everybody's travel plans.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right. And not to get into the specifics of it because I'm not in the mood, but to play that fast and loose with abusing people and the things that matter to them most.

[Joe Getty]

Pursuit of happiness in.

[Jack Armstrong]

In the name of seeing who will be blamed. And perhaps we can get a temporary and incremental advantage in the midterms. God, I'd like to put all their heads and vices metaphorical sounds like political violence. Although I was thinking about this. I need to talk to Hanson about this. How's our F y' all looking? Party merch coming along? I demand An F Y olican party to T shirt. This is my new political party. I created. I'm tired of y'.

[Announcer]

All.

[Jack Armstrong]

F y'.

[Joe Getty]

All.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we formed a political party F y'.

[Joe Getty]

All.

[Jack Armstrong]

And our. Our. Our logo is. Where is it? It's around here somewhere. Is. There it is. Is a damned eagle in front of a couple of stripes and a couple of stars. Very American.

[Joe Getty]

Fantastic. What's.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the American spirit, though, isn't it?

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on, who's with me?

[Joe Getty]

What's the most popular TV show in America?

[Jack Armstrong]

NFL. NFL.

[Joe Getty]

NFL. Football. And I got a game tonight. Raiders Broncos. I'm rooting for the Raiders because I'm a Chiefs fan and I need them to lose. But the main thing I was going to bring it up for is I heard this somewhere else and just I looked it up a little bit because I wanted more information. Today is the anniversary of really the beginning of football. The first ever college football game was played today. And then that became popular. And then the NFL came out of that professional football. And then I heard. I heard them on the T say, of course, in the first college football game, which was played on this day in 1869, I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

Holy cow. No, that early.

[Joe Getty]

Well, they just threw out there and then moved on to the next story without any more explanation. Of course, in the first football game, they were not allowed to carry the football or throw it. In other news, and I thought, what?

[Jack Armstrong]

They were playing soccer?

[Joe Getty]

What now?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's called soccer.

[Joe Getty]

So I looked it up and yeah, it basically was soccer. It was basically soccer. 25 players on each team. You could not throw or carry the ball. You could only kick it into the other team's goal. And the final score. Rutgers beat Princeton 6 to 4. But, yeah, so it started as soccer. And then somebody wisely, because getting back to your American spirit, said, well, this is dull afoot. We gotta do something. Let's get more scoring and going here. And then you start carrying it and throwing it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, good news. Yes, indeed. The F y' all can party T shirts are available and very, very sharp. Yes, Katie, I have your favorite Armstrong and Getty fan. As Christmas is rapidly approaching. Armstrongandgetty.com Katie. Sorry, go ahead.

[Katie Green]

I have some breaking news.

[Commercial Voice]

Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, Lord.

[Katie Green]

Nancy Pelosi has announced her retirement.

[Joe Getty]

Officially announced. Officially.

[Jack Armstrong]

She unofficially announced it the other day. Right.

[Joe Getty]

This is the official announcement.

[Jack Armstrong]

We talked about it. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which will be followed by the congressional announcement and then the national federal announcement. And she's what, 83ish I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I thought we already knew this. But all news is going crazy with this. Everybody in the world is reporting breaking news. Nancy Pelosi, the trailblazing San Francisco Democrat who leveraged decades of power in the U.S. house of Representatives to become one of the most influential political leaders for a generation. No doubt about that. More. One of the most effective politicians of my lifetime will not run for reelection in 2026. Why? Because she's a million years old. But man, she was good in her prime.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, yeah. Good looking gal too. Back before electricity. Wow. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Why? A shot on her way out the door.

[Jack Armstrong]

What? That was a compliment.

[Joe Getty]

After a lifetime of public service.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a compliment her giving her. FDR whistled at her as she walked down the halls of the Capitol.

[Joe Getty]

A lifetime of public service, which of course I'm saying sarcastically, in which she dedicated her life to serving the public. A mere salary of tens of millions of dollars, somehow that she and her family made.

[Jack Armstrong]

Her husband's a good investor, he had good information. Not sure where he got it. Yeah, all right.

[Joe Getty]

That seems to me, I mean, if there's ever a. Not a real revolution, like, you know, guns, but like a real political revolution where we. A brand new party emerges, like Macron in France, you know, where just everybody's so fed up with the two political parties, you try something completely different. That might be one of the topics. How does everybody go off to government? We know what their salary is and then leave wealthy. What is the story?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, I. I have these weird fantasies now and again about. No, don't worry, everything, It'll be fine. About the founding papas somehow via time machine or, or wormhole or something, being in the modern era and having a conversation with them. I know it's weird, but I enjoy it. And, and I think, you know, Madison and Jefferson and Washington and et al would be fascinated and horrified, but fascinated by all of the ways a large and powerful government perverts our society. And I think they would have anticipated a lot of them. But not that one. Not that one exactly. But yeah. The reasons you don't want an especially large and powerful government in charge of everything are there. There are many, many of them. And yet here we are.

[Joe Getty]

So let's start the show officially because our clip deals with the shutdown getting real for all of us. I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty on this. It is Thursday, November 6th, the year 2025. We're Armstrong and Getty and we approve of this program.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's begin then. Officially, according to FCC rules and regulations, the show starts at mark. To put this simply, the FIA is imposing a 10% cut to flights at.

[Joe Getty]

40 major airports across the country. 10% cut to flights. 40 airports. It's going to be thousands of flights canceled. Thousands. At 10%, Frontier Airlines is announced. Buy a backup ticket. When you buy your ticket, United Airlines has announced they're going to refund because there's a. There's a decent chance you're going to miss your flight. And this is just the beginning. It's just starting here.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hadn't heard that. So which, which airline is saying, buy a backup ticket?

[Joe Getty]

Frontier. Not exactly in the most mainstream of airlines, but I think that's probably just a smart move.

[Jack Armstrong]

They do a lot of business. So in other words, yeah, Mom, Dad, I'll be flying in Tuesday unless that's canceled. I have a ticket for Thursday at 5am Right.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. You have to be able to. And you got to be able. Why am I over there? You got to have the. You got to have.

[Jack Armstrong]

No idea. Come.

[Joe Getty]

Come back. You got to have enough money to be able to buy two tickets, which ain't, you know, necessarily easy.

[Jack Armstrong]

That much cash.

[Joe Getty]

I'll just throw out another $800 to have a backup ticket.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good idea. Thanks. Yeah. I'm telling you this, this and vices.

[Joe Getty]

And I think 10% is the start. I think I. First of all, I wonder if Trump worked with his transportation secretary. He was out yesterday. We'll play the clips later saying the shutdown killed us and Republicans are getting killed on this and we got to end it. So he thinks the shutdown needs to come to an end. I wonder if he didn't tell the transportation secretary here, we're going to cause some pain. We're going to make this thing end. Or maybe the transportation secretary is just on his own saying, this has gotten to the point where it's going to get dangerous and I'm going to get blamed for it. So we got it. We got to do something here. Either way, it now has reached everyone because it's going to affect everyone.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm a big fan of Sean Duffy. I think he's the best transportation Secretary we've had for a very, very long time. And I heard an interview he did in which he explained, look, if we wait until we are truly overstaffed and overworked in air traffic control and the unthinkable happens, are we gonna correct then? No, we've gotta get ahead of this. It was very compelling. And it's almost certain that with maybe an exception or two that 40 airports is gonna be the big 40 that everybody has to fly.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Of course this is. And the reason I say it's going to affect everybody and then we got to take a break. But you remember how this has been when there's been huge travel disruptions in the past. You can't find a rental car anywhere in the country. Airport, hotels are all booked up. Everything gets crazy fast when people can't travel around like they're supposed to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Right. Cascades. Yeah. Terrible. That's the.

[Joe Getty]

That's the perfect word.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's your hands together or you're going to find your head in a you know what. Metaphorically spe. Electoral.

[Joe Getty]

Imagine watching a foot watch. Watch a Broncos Raiders tonight and they announce no running or throwing. I mean no carrying the ball or throwing. I ain't watching. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got some pain I gotta watch.

[Joe Getty]

We got Katie's headlines coming up next. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

Which I don't believe is what was happening in that video, but that is the claim. That is some pretty awful s right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's plumbing the depths of mess.

[Joe Getty]

That is rough.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good Lord.

[Joe Getty]

You're a mother of two little kids and your husband was murdered in front of you. A person in that situation could cry pretty often, like maybe for the rest of their lives. That's okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's monstrous. Somebody who would say that out loud is monstrous.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Either in their utter incapacity to understand human beings or their willingness to say it even though they know it's awful. That is amazing. All right, let's figure out who's reporting what. It's lead story with Katie Green. Katie, take it away.

[Katie Green]

Alrighty. Starting with ABC News, Supreme Court justices appear skeptical on Trump's tariffs, but some may give leeway.

[Joe Getty]

America is happy that Joe Getty, who almost went to law school, has been listening to the oral arguments and is going to let us know what he has learned.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hours of oral arguments yesterday. Hours. And it helped that my wife was out of town. So I wandered through the house, shirtless, bedraggled, unwashed, sad, confused, listening to oral arguments at the Supreme Court, and I got a pretty good grasp.

[Joe Getty]

All I know is a grateful country awaits your assessment.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, hey, hey, stay tuned. Katie.

[Katie Green]

NBC News Trump official says partial snap benefits for November will be more. More than previously estimated.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, he's, he's reading the election results from Tuesday as. Same way everybody else is reading them, that it's all about affordability all across America and somebody gets blamed for the fact that everything is so expensive, usually the party in power. And so he's doubling down on that message.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Seriously, if you are watching an interview with a Democrat about the election or the upcoming midterms or anything like that, seriously, the minute they're introduced, take a deep breath and hold your breath. You will not even be lightheaded by the time they use the word affordability or affordable. It is their new mantra.

[Katie Green]

From the Hill, New York Fire.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know if you intended to sound, I don't know, dismissive of that. It's like the number one issue in the country for everyone, including me. So I would.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no, I think it's astute. Indeed.

[Joe Getty]

I would hope that whatever politician sits down in his talk to they get to the word affordability pretty quick.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's one giant flaw in that argument, but it's gonna be Effective. I will reveal that flaw later. A grateful nation awaits.

[Katie Green]

From the Hill. New York Fire Commissioner resigns following Mamdani win.

[Joe Getty]

Oh wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

First of many, I suspect.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's gonna be something to watch.

[Katie Green]

From the Wall Street Journal. Hundreds of Hamas fighters are stuck in tunnels in Israeli controlled Gaza.

[Joe Getty]

And am I supposed to be worried.

[Jack Armstrong]

About that or heavily armed. And if the Israelis say hey, you're not supposed to be down there armed, they shoot them and kill them. So yeah, they have a cabal of armed fighters in the Israeli controlled part of it according to the peace agreement, ready to murder Israelis the moment they get a chance.

[Joe Getty]

They'll run out of food eventually, won't they?

[Jack Armstrong]

You would think leave them down in the hole.

[Katie Green]

From breitbart.com Judge orders Bureau of Prisons to provide sex trait sex chains surgery to transgender pedophile inmate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

And the taxpayers fund that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So a pedophile ends up in prison.

[Joe Getty]

Decides they're a different sex and the taxpayer gets to pay for the surgery.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because they're a sex pervert already. And they decide they're going to explore a different avenue of that hobby.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, this is happening in North Carolina.

[Jack Armstrong]

Obscene from page six.

[Katie Green]

Kim Kardashian blames ChatGPT for failing law exams.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I saw that story.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, we gotta go into that. I like that. I forgot she was going to law school.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would like to ask ChatGPT what the right answer is for the exam and it would give me the wrong one and I totally failed.

[Joe Getty]

But it would actually be interesting if the truth is she was studying and used ChatGPT and it gave her some wrong information that she.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what she's claiming.

[Joe Getty]

Dang it.

[Katie Green]

And finally this one from the Babylon Bee. So run Mamdani, horrified to discover he now has a job.

[Joe Getty]

His first job as mayor of New York City.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is going to screw up his lifestyle.

[Joe Getty]

We got to figure out this whole chat GPT how often it gives you the wrong answer. I look up stuff every single day and assume I ass is probably right. I wonder how often I'm completely misled.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, an imagine 20 year old you without your accumulated knowledge and life experience.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, imagine that with hair and everything.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Joe's got all his wisdom for us. Coming up.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Did you see this story? This is wild. Tom Brady just revealed that his dog is a clone of his family's old dog. Then a second Tom Brady ran into the room and yelled, don't listen to him. He's not the real Tom Brady.

[Joe Getty]

I'm Tony.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's amazing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Many football teams, like the jets, for instance, are thinking, can we clone the owner of the dog? Is there any chance of that? That would actually be an interesting cloning. Although I'm against cloning humans to make the point about cloning. If you cloned Tom Brady, he would have the same genetics, but a different brain. And probably a brain that doesn't decide to take a moderately athletic body at age 22 and turn it into something completely different. With an amazing. With an amount of work and dedication that has rarely been seen on planet Earth.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and it that Tom Brady Jr. Would not interact with Tom Brady's parents in the way that Tom did, nor his friends, nor that girl who gave him an admiring look after he threw his first touchdown pass or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

That. That shapes a person.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Anyway, Tom Brady cloned his dog, but he's invested heavily in this company that does that. So there you go. Please, I understand.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there's lots of dogs. Tom, you numbskull.

[Joe Getty]

First of all, not all the reporting has been Good. Over this major announcement by the transportation secretary that they're going to cut 10% of flights at the 40. 40 airports that they haven't named. But as Joe said, they're probably gonna be the 40 biggest airports. And I was listening to one newscaster. They said it could be hundreds of flights. No, no, no, no, no. They say it's going to be more like 4,500 flights canceled on Saturday, for instance. On Saturday. Just Saturday. 4,500 flights. Not hundreds of flights. 4,500 flights on Saturday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that is technically hundreds of flights. Yes, 4,500.

[Joe Getty]

But it does not send the message. That is right. What you need. Then we got this text because I said, man, it's really going to be. There's no way they allow this to go through Thanksgiving. We got this. There are millions of us working men and women who could give a GD about taking a flight over the holidays. It's just you whiny, small men like Jack who care about s like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

The. Wow. I pity you, my friend. To have a pinched heart full of dark hatred like that. You. You have that attitude about family who don't see each other nearly often, as often as they'd like to, getting together for the holidays.

[Joe Getty]

That's.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's troubling.

[Joe Getty]

I think it was a pinched heart that killed Dick Cheney. A pinched heart. That's. I've never heard that term. That's a good one. I'm gonna start using it. You and your pinched heart. Get out of here. Your bad attitude.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you gotta just pick your spots.

[Joe Getty]

But anyway, aside from just replying to.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's gotta be trolling. Or somebody who's just profoundly unhappy. Seriously, sir, I will. I will pray for you and hope for your finding joy someday.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I wasn't going to get into this, but let me turn amateur therapist for a moment. My guess would be you've got a family dynamic that you wish was different for all kinds of reasons that may or may not be any of your fault. And it makes you angry that other people put so much effort into getting together on Thanksgiving because we used to work with a guy whose dad left when he was a little kid and his take on Father's Day, that it was just a day to try to rub it in the face of people who don't have dads. It was like an angry, vengeful day is what Father's Day was. And I thought, God, that's horrible. And, you know, I can't really blame him. I didn't have that experience. Thank God of my dad walking out the door when I was two years old.

[Jack Armstrong]

But still, I mean, today's word is projection. Projection or projecting. Putting your psychology on somebody else.

[Joe Getty]

That's sad.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's too bad.

[Joe Getty]

Right? And I guess, I'm guessing that's what's going on with this Thanksgiving thing here. But as I pointed out with Joe coming up with the fantastic word cascading, if you'll remember from past holiday flubs with the airlines and everything like that, even if people are just driving, there won't be a rental car. The roads will be absolutely packed and people won't be able to get anywhere or stay at a hotel while they're traveling or anything because it all just. It just all falls apart, the whole travel thing. And it's the busiest travel weekend of the flipping year whether you travel, sir. Or not. Right, so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, again, yeah, you can't argue with somebody like that.

[Joe Getty]

I find it interesting, though. Well.

[Jack Armstrong]

And while we're preoccupied trying to figure out what flight to take, the turkeys will flee into the woods, not to be seen again. We'll be forced to eat, I don't know what, hamburgers or something terrible, awful.

[Joe Getty]

So the word of the year, if we were picking a word of the year based on the last 36 hours, would be affordability. All of your pundits claiming that's why Democrats won and the Republicans talking about we need to start talking more about that and et cetera, et cetera. You know why? Because it's true. It is one of the biggest problems we've got going. And it's Covid. And then all these ridiculous bills we went and inflation, and we've never adjusted emotionally to the new prices. I know I haven't. I'm still shocked every time I go to the grocery store or go to a restaurant. I'm still surprised at the end by the bill and much more rapidly than wages and. And everything is so expensive. Like they were using. The example, I think, is New Jersey. Their energy prices had gone up 20% in the last year. Yeah, well, California were like, well, we'd love it if it were only 20%. So many things are so expensive, I think, regularly. How would 25 year old me have survived? I'd probably have a couple of roommates and I don't know, maybe take the bus because I couldn't afford car insurance. It's just crazy. My son, my high school son last night was saying, I don't understand how I'm gonna be able to move out when I'm 18. I just don't understand how I'm ever gonna be able to afford it. And I said, well, you're, you're 15, so we don't have to worry about that right now. But I wonder about that too. Car insurance is very, very different. Energy bills are insane. And of course, rent and home prices are crazy. And one of the big numbers that came out yesterday that got so much attention that I wanted to talk about is the median age of a first time home buyer hit a record high 40 years old in the most recent survey.

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Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Comparing that fairly recently TO it was 33 in 2021. It was 20. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's moved seven years in four years. That's practically impossible. That's crazy.

[Joe Getty]

Well, what was an interest rate in 20? 21? 2%.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, granted. Right.

[Joe Getty]

And again, it hit 40 average. The median age of first time homebuyer hit 40. It was 29 in 1981. That's how much it has changed now. And over the last year, first time homebuyers made up just 21% of purchases. That's the lowest it's ever been in terms of a percentage of people buying houses. First time home buyers. Now there is the not just can you afford it or not? I'm a renter. I can afford to buy a house. I just thought it was a bad idea. A lot of people are doing that even younger, where you, you, you know, you might have come to the legitimate conclusion that I'm better off renting right now than buying a house, even though I've got enough saved up, I could buy a house or whatever. So that factors in somewhat, doesn't it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure, yeah. Yeah. The housing market is in a very weird spot, as we've talked about many times. It's, it's stuck. All the people who had crazy low interest rates on their mortgages can't give that up. They can't move up, they can't downsize. And that clogs everything up, as we've discussed.

[Joe Getty]

But major changes like this should get more attention. And I guess that's what's happening over the last 36 hours with both parties realizing what's people's top issue. But you go from median home first time homebuyer, 29 when I was in high school to 40 now. That's a pretty big change in the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Structure of society, right? Yeah. And there are sociological causes too. Sure, I'm quite confident of that. I mean, you just look at the, the prolonged adolescence of a young adult.

[Joe Getty]

You got porn.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you do have porn. I, I hadn't thought of that. But. And, and also, and this is digging a bit deep, but I think we need to dig more to fundamental reasons than we do because I've been reading about this a lot and it's one of my top five or so jihad's.

[Joe Getty]

The Joe's top five jihads. We'll do that. We do that every Friday at 8.

[Jack Armstrong]

I ought to, I ought to actually list them anyway. One of them is the idea of free range parenting and how. Just read a great, great think piece that I'll share with you at some point to parent better, parent less, and how the style of parenting that has removed all risk, all failure and learning to overcome failure, free play, decision making, just the whole free range parenting thing or free range child thing has contributed to people who do not do the things it takes to get ahead because they're still learning how to be an adult at a much later age. But it all factors in. You can't just cite one thing.

[Joe Getty]

And you're much less likely to buy a house if you're not getting married and having kids. True. Much less likely. If your focus is I want to be a world traveler, so I want to have an apartment and travel around a lot, which is a lot of young people. You're not, you're putting your money into backpacking through Europe. You're not putting your money into a down payment on a house just as a priority. Yeah. And you get to do that as long as, as long as at some point you don't come to me and say I need some of your money. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or we need policies that will allow me to buy a house quickly in spite of my backpackings. So a couple of headlines really quickly to your point, about affordability being a great message. And my one big caveat about this is that it is yet another perversion of how we ought to look at life and government. That if the economy is good, we credit the president and his party and if the economy is bad, the opposite.

[Joe Getty]

That's dumb.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go for the opposite president. What's that?

[Joe Getty]

That's dumb.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is dumba. And it's, it's, it's worse than dumba because we don't believe in silent letters. Because that excuse, first of all, the economy takes care of the economy. The government just screws it up with a handful of exceptions. Yes, I'm for reasonable regulations of the food industry, that sort of thing, reasonable ones. But once people get it into their head that if the economy is good, I will reward this party and if the economy's bad, I will reward the other party. They have made the assumption that the government ought to run the economy, which is an incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do. You don't want that. Central planning sucks in words of a single syllable. Anyway, a handful of headlines I've assembled over just a few days. The average cost of a family health insurance plan is now $27,000 a year.

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Whoa.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe you don't, you know, pay it all, but somebody is. Maybe your employer does.

[Joe Getty]

Well, we all know what our deductible is. If you're old enough, you can compare it to what it used to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, indeed. I'm sorry I've got so many tabs open. We'll get to it. Bear with me. Stand with me. The average. Oh, there it is. Runaway insurance costs bring back talk of price caps. Increasingly, insurers. We're talking about homeowners. And car insurance in both red and blue states are being told to cap prices as lawmakers come under pressure.

[Joe Getty]

Car insurance, at least where I live, is not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and then we get into Democrats. Keep shoveling money at Obamacare. But we can talk about that another time. Instead of shoveling money into government, how about this fabulous, fantastic cause, Warrior Foundation Freedom Station. We've been supporting them for years and years and today is the big giveathon. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And today is the day the flying them home for the holidays. The idea is taking injured warriors, flying them home for the holidays so they can wake up in their own bed. And those who can't fly the their families will be flown to them. Your tax deductible donation is more than a gift. It's a heartfelt thank you that ensures our warriors wake up in their own beds on Christmas morning.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if you're not familiar with this fabulous foundation, Warrior Foundation Freedom Station. They have stood beside our ill and injured warriors for 21 years providing transitional housing, support services, outdoor therapy, the chance to rebuild their lives. Flying them home for the holidays. Platinum rating. Highest ratings at Charity navigator for being scrimping with your money and being very responsible for it. You can give today. Donate now at 619-WARRIOR. That's 619-WARRIOR or visit warriorfoundation.org get the name right. It's not that similarly named organization that is not nearly so careful with your dollars. By the way, warriorfoundation.org warriorfoundation.org or 619warrior.

[Joe Getty]

A major figure in American life, elder statesman of our politics, Nancy Pelosi has announced she will not run for your re election. Donald Trump was asked about that. He had a two word assessment of her. Two word assessment of her career. I can have for you next.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope it was kind.

[Joe Getty]

Joe gets in the mailbag. Stay tuned.

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[Joe Getty]

You know, in the olden days when a figure like Nancy Pelosi announces her retirement, whoever was president at the time would have said, you know, we had our differences over the years, but she a proud servant for her people in America should be blah blah blah. But that is not the times we live in. Donald Trump was asked about Nancy Pelosi retirement, retiring and he said good. She's evil and corrupt. Get the hell out of here's your.

[Jack Armstrong]

Freedom loving quote Continuing our series from John Stuart Mills on Liberty, the best book you could possibly read. Yesterday's was talked about how whether an opinion is right or wrong, to silence it is to rob the human race of the perspective. Anyway, continuing that thought from the same chapter of the book. The truth of an opinion is part of its utility. If the opinion is compelled to silence, it may be, and often is, that the opinion is true, but it is not the whole truth. Very few facts are able to tell their whole story without the aid of connecting truths nuance. It is only by the collision of adverse opinions that the remainder of the truth has any chance of being supplied. In other words, no single opinion contains the entire truth. Truth emerges fully through the conflict, open conflict of ideas.

[Joe Getty]

Clearly true. But how do you, how do you factor that in with if you're explaining, you're losing, which seems to be a truism in politics also.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, which makes me very, very sad. Very sad.

[Joe Getty]

Saying good she was evil and corrupt is just one tiny bit short of I hope she dies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe I'll watch Idiocracy again this weekend. A fine comedy from yesteryear. Mailbag, drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetty.com is the email address [e-mail] on the topic of San Fran Nan, Nancy Pelosi, John writes, by the way, Abraham Lincoln had her on his top 10 milf list. Just saying what. I'm not familiar with that term. I believe it means major legislative figure. Thank you. Abraham Lincoln, you say? Moving along. Sarah Enfolz, California writes as a lifelong Californian. Oh, can Joe please do more Valley Girl impressions on air? As a lifelong Californian, I can personally attest that it's the best. Thank you, Sarah and Folsom.

[Joe Getty]

When did that come?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll pick my spot.

[Joe Getty]

I was here, I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't remember when we Were discussing Kim Kardashian. Kardashian. A few moments ago.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's see. This is from.

[Joe Getty]

Com.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you want to end the shutdown, have all the NFL games canceled because they could not get a flight.

[Joe Getty]

Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy. You would have millions of people marching in the streets.

[Joe Getty]

I have some interesting news about the shutdowns, actually. It's actually interesting. I'm not pretending I doubt it.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, Joe. I'm looking forward to it. Let's see. JT writes, jack, you chastised your son for interrupting an AI bot. Do you also chastise him for interrupting a DVR or a tape recording? Since Joe has failed to ask you this week, it falls on us, the listeners. You do realize that she is just a computer program, don't you?

[Joe Getty]

My kids. My kids said that. Last night in the car, we were talking with Grok and she said, dad, we're starting to worry about you. But what was I gonna say about that? You chested. Oh, we got an email or a text from somebody who said their kid got in trouble with the teacher for being rude to the AI bot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my.

[Joe Getty]

That's weird, isn't it? Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's. That's. That's weird. That's troubling and disturbing and sci fi.

[Joe Getty]

Ish.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's see. Another Jay in San Jose writes, guys, Tom Brady cloned his dog. Many of us wish we could clone a special dog that died because their passing was heartbreaking and a sad life experience, but you can't clone the love of a dog. And he says, I'm also reminded of the documentary by Stephen King called Pet Sematary. I'm not sure that was a documentary. Are you a big Stephen, Katie? Anybody a big Stephen King fan? I was. I'm no hater. I've never particularly loved his stuff. No.

[Joe Getty]

I think I've read a Stephen King book, and I know I've known many, many people who read them all. Loved them all.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's fine.

[Joe Getty]

Doesn't Tom Brady have enough money that he doesn't need to invest in a dog cloning outfit?

[Jack Armstrong]

I just think guys like that are so competitive. They're not gonna just let their riches sit there. They've got to be in a game.

[Joe Getty]

It must be dog cloning, for instance. By the way, I love his color commentary. If it's a game he's calling, I like it. I know some people don't, but I really like it. We got a lot of interesting news, including something you probably don't know about. The shutdown in hour two. If you miss it, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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