Shouldn't Get a Pass

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "Shouldn't Get a Pass"

Date: May 20, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty unpacks several current political, military, and cultural debates. The discussion ranges from escalating tensions involving Iran, delays in U.S. military response, and Trump’s complicated foreign and domestic policies, to the state of nonfiction publishing, the rise of open antisemitism, and a detour into late-night TV nostalgia. Core themes include media hypocrisy, international conflict, increasing polarization in politics, and the challenges of cultural discourse in the digital age.

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Key Discussion Highlights

1. Iran Conflict, Delays, and U.S. Response

Timestamps: 03:35–14:28

• Trump's Near-Strike on Iran: Trump claims he was “an hour away” from striking Iran, which the hosts view with skepticism.
• Iran’s Threats & Asymmetrical Warfare: Report from Trey Yingst (Fox News) details Iran’s threat that further aggression will trigger regional escalation and "crushing blows in places you do not expect."

  “The IRGC said... you will fall into the abyss of defeat and destruction.” – Trey Yingst [04:44]

• Ancient Greek Parallels: Yingst connects Iranian threats to the Persian army at Thermopylae, referencing the Greeks’ response:

  “Then we will fight in the shade.” [06:16] “That is some good, ancient world hard assishness right there. Hardassery.” – Jack Armstrong [07:03]

• Iranian Proxies & Militant Activities Abroad: Iran destabilizes via proxies, including supporting attacks against Jews in the UK.
• Newt Gingrich’s Critique: Gingrich criticizes U.S. delays, claiming truce periods only let Iran rebuild:

  “We should not have any doubts about the dictatorship using the truce periods to repair damage and rebuild their forces... we keep applying values and principles which would affect us, but the Iranian dictatorship is not us.” – Read by Joe Getty [09:17]

• Overlooking Atrocities: Discussion of Iran’s reported killing of 42,000 protestors:

  “It’s amazing that you can still do that in the modern world and get away with it...” – Joe Getty [11:25]

Analysis

• The hosts are frustrated by the perception that U.S. diplomatic/economic pressure will change Iran’s behavior, critiquing both left-wing reluctance to criticize Iran and the right’s focus on Israel.
• Jack speculates that Trump might be influenced by foreign interests (e.g., Qatar) in his decision-making [12:25].

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2. Culture Wars & Media

Timestamps: 07:28–08:36, 18:39–24:32, 44:54–47:01

• Hollywood’s Identity Politics: Armstrong and Getty mock the controversy over casting a Black actress as Helen of Troy, pointing out Hollywood’s selective application of diversity while ironically ignoring Greek identity:

  “Greek people don’t count in your identity obsession. Okay, all right, great. We don’t actually care, but y’all are stupid flipping hypocrites.” – Jack Armstrong [08:01]

• Rise of Substack, Podcasts, and Decline of 'Dad Books':

  “Dad books are a dying breed... people just don’t read books like they did a few years ago. And nonfiction is now the most challenged segment.” – Jack Armstrong [21:04] “Part of what you presented there is not the death of reading, it’s just the death of a certain kind of reading that has existed all our lives.” – Joe Getty [24:09]

• AI & Creativity Anxiety: Discussion about whether tech-enabled content (e.g., AI music covers) is diminishing genuine creativity:

  “These fundamental changes in the way that information is exchanged or creativity is expressed...” – Jack Armstrong [20:28]

• Late Night TV Nostalgia: Reflections on the humor and impact of David Letterman’s career, contrasting former lightheartedness with today’s divisive, politicized late-night:

  “Letterman of the 80s was amazing... It was just jokes and celebrities and fun and snark and stuff. But it had nothing to do with hateful politics.” – Joe Getty [46:41]

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3. Antisemitism, Political Extremism, and the State of U.S. Parties

Timestamps: 27:41–41:45

• Thomas Massie Defeat & Antisemitic Tropes:
  – Scrutiny of Representative Massie’s increasingly fringe, conspiratorial and antisemitic remarks:

  “I would have come out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede, and it took a while to find Ed G in Tel Aviv.” — Massie, quoted by Getty [29:55] “He’s controlled by the Jews, so. Holy crap, I never thought I’d live to see this.” – Jack Armstrong [29:55]

• Antisemitism Across the Spectrum:

  “On the left they hate you because of the whole oppressor, oppressed, settler colonialism BS. And on the right there’s a lot of the Jews control everything. Just flat out old fashioned antisemitism.” – Joe Getty [31:26] “Protocols of the Elders of Zion style garbage.” – Jack Armstrong [31:43]

• Host Perceptions of Growing Extremism:

  “I used to not understand how this happened in Germany...and now I understand it.” [31:46]

• Rising Politicization in U.S. Elections:
  – Democratic candidates pressured to distance themselves from Israel and AIPAC; Israel is ranked only 10th in foreign lobbying dollars, far behind China and others:

  “Saudi Arabia and Qatar, 6 and 7. Spend significantly more than Israel spends lobbying...” – Joe Getty [34:57] “Logic does not have a chance against somebody who's just looking for someone to hate as an explanation of the way the world works...” – Joe Getty [35:42]

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4. U.S. Politics and Party Dynamics

Timestamps: 36:36–41:45

• Trump’s Approach to Endorsements: Trump criticized for valuing loyalty over qualification, risking formerly safe Republican Senate seats in Georgia and Texas:

  “His only standard is who licks my boots the most thoroughly.” – Jack Armstrong [37:19] “That is one of the...most overlooked things...is that he turned Georgia from a two guaranteed republican senators...and turned them both blue out of just stupidity.” – Joe Getty [37:48]

• Repeat of Tea Party and “Woke” Candidates Phenomenon: Hosts compare the loss of seats to ideologically extreme candidates—previously Tea Party Republicans, now “woke” Democrats.
• House 2026 Outlook: There's less certainty the House will flip Democratic, as radical candidates may damage their party's chances.

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ancient Greece Reference:

  “We will fight in the shade.” – Trey Yingst (Fox), quoted approvingly by both hosts [06:16]

• On Reading Trends:

  “Some of these people are brilliant. But there’s so much.” – Joe Getty on Substack writers [23:09]

• On Modern Antisemitism:

  “Now I get [how fascism happens]...it happens kind of slowly, and then suddenly, as the old saying goes.” – Joe Getty [31:46]

• On Trump’s Political Judgement:

  “Bad candidates that ended up losing some once again very winnable seats got lost because of these bad candidates. The Democrats are repeating that now...woke nonsense...they’re going to lose winnable seats.” – Joe Getty [40:42]

• On Foreign Lobbying:

  “Israel is 10th, by the way. They don’t exactly control the country...China spent almost half a trillion dollars, two and a half times what Israel spent.” – Joe Getty [33:53]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Theme | Timecode | |---------|-------|----------| | Trump, Iran, Delays | Foreign policy, Trump critique | 03:35–14:28 | | Greek/Ancient War Analogies | Media rhetoric | 06:11–07:28 | | Hollywood & Identity Politics | Cultural critique | 07:28–08:36 | | AI Music & Creativity | Tech anxiety | 18:39–20:28 | | Decline of Nonfiction Reading | Publishing, culture | 20:54–24:32 | | Massie Antisemitism Segment | Political extremism | 27:41–33:12 | | Foreign Lobbying Debunk | Antisemitism, lobbying | 33:51–35:57 | | Trump’s Endorsements, Senate Races | GOP politics | 36:36–39:57 | | Tea Party/Woke Candidate Parallels | Party decline | 39:57–41:45 | | Letterman/Colbert Nostalgia | Media, humor | 44:54–47:01 |

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Tone & Language

The hosts use their trademark sardonic, irreverent style, mixing humor with earnest political analysis. They are blunt in addressing hypocrisy, passionate about free speech and Western values, and openly cynical about political tribalism on both the left and right.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode weaves together military tensions, media narratives, and culture war fractures. The Armstrong & Getty Show warns against letting ideological extremism—foreign or domestic, left or right—erode reasoned debate, national unity, and civic decency. As always, they encourage listeners to question both the tribal impulses of politics and the shifting sands of media and cultural trends.

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For more, visit armstrongandgetty.com or tune in to their next episode.

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[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and get. And now here's Armstrong and yeti. I hope we don't have to do the one, but we may have to give him another big hit. We may have to give him another big hit. I'm not sure yet. You'll know very soon. How close were you striking around? I was an hour away. We were all set to go. Trump, I, I don't like the media always uses the word claims with Trump to suggest he's lying. I'm gonna use it in this case. Trump claiming we were an hour away from striking Iran. I doubt that's true, but maybe it was coming up pretty soon when he called it off. Um, Newt Gingrich shot with a piece today and he's a, he was a Republican leader of the House many, many, many years ago. He's pretty Trumpy. But he doesn't like this delay, delay, delay stuff. He explains why. We'll get to that a little bit. But here's Trey Yingst who's a great reporter in the, in that part of the world for Fox every day.

[Trey Yingst]

Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps issued a new threat overnight warning the United States and Israel against launching a fresh bombing campaign. The IRGC said in a statement, quote, if the aggression against Iran is repeated, the regional war that was promised to will this time go beyond the borders of the region and you will be dealt crushing blows in places you do not expect. And you will Fall into the abyss of defeat and destruction. The threat comes as President Trump says he was just an hour away from deciding to strike Iran earlier this week.

[Joe Getty]

You hate to fall into a manhole or the abyss of defeat and destruction. Either one.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a rough day. No doubt.

[Joe Getty]

That's no good. Gonna hit him in places you don't expect, right in the five hole. If that's true, if Iran like really lashes out at all their neighbors like they did before, but even more this

[Jack Armstrong]

time and again, as they vowed beyond the region.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, and they got as, as they demonstrated. They got rockets, missiles, whatever you call them, that can reach a long, long way, including Europe. So.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, not only that, but I was just reading about this Iran backed militant outfit that's ooching around in Great Britain and is behind a lot of the attacks on Jews in that country. They're financed by Iran. So asymmetrical warfare, terrorist attacks, I think it's practically inevitable.

[Joe Getty]

Luckily, Trey, like me, was wondering what ancient Greek war is this similar to?

[Trey Yingst]

And we've seen these threats from Iran's irgc. And it reminds me of the ancient battle of thermopylae in 480 BC when then the Persian army threatened to use so many arrows that they would blot out the sun. And the Greek forces responded, then we will fight in the shade. And this has been a source of strength for the Israeli people because they understand there is a joint defense here. When it comes to the Americans and the Israelis. There are US forces still on the ground. They have Thaad and Patriot missile defense systems and they are preparing for the possibility that the Iranian regime, if they are targeted, works to overwhelm those systems.

[Joe Getty]

That's some pretty good pre Jesus smack right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was good. Trey is so good.

[Joe Getty]

Well then we'll fight you in the shade. Yeah, that is some good smack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh no. Yeah, that's some ancient world hard assishness right there. Hardassery.

[Joe Getty]

That is a good one. I love that. I, I don't know if I'd ever heard that before. That's a good one. Fire so many areas that it will blot out the sun. Okay, bring it. I'm kind of. I'm interested in the, the battle stuff from this new Ulysses movie coming out. Have you seen any of the trailers?

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

It's a Nolan film and if you've ever watched any of his movies, I mean he can do the big screen epic thing better than maybe anybody ever has. But they've got the, the scenes about the Trojan horse dragging that across the desert and getting that in there. And the whole Trojan horse thing looks awesome.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. The one thing I read that really stuck with me about the movie was. And I think I've got it around

[Joe Getty]

here somewhere, but if you like a black Helen of Troy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, see, that's the thing. It kind of is related to that, but not really.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Is so obsessed with who they cast and what numbers of, of each, you know, whatever. And to win an Oscar, you've got to have accurate and you can't have a straight guy playing a gay gu and blah, blah, blah. Well, evidently Greek Americans have noticed you haven't cast any Greeks as Greeks. So Greek people don't count in your identity obsession. Okay, all right, great. We don't actually care, but y' all are stupid flipping hypocrites.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, famous black actress, I don't know her name is playing Helen of Troy who's a legendary hottie as described by many historians. That changed. She was so hot. She changed world history. People fought for. But I don't care. It just, it just seems like a. Okay, fine. Trying too hard to either be controversial or. Oh yeah, or, or, or, or soothes. Might have just been to. Okay, now I'm eligible for an Oscar because now I got enough. Because if I was going to cast it the way the people probably worth the time. I wasn't going to have any black people. Now I got a point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or, or this gal's terrific. And people will talk about the movie more if I do this. So.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't like Matt Damon as a choice, as I mentioned yesterday, but whatever, nobody cares. Back to the war, the actual war, this current war. Newt Gingrich wrote this. Former speaker of the House back in the day. Back in the Clinton day, President Trump keeps finding reasons not to reopen the bombing campaign. The Iranians are using this time to rebuild their anti aircraft defenses and reple their drone and missile stockpiles. We should not have any doubts about the dictatorship using the truce periods to repair damage and rebuild their forces. There's also no question that the Russians are shipping weapons and supplies across the Caspian Sea to help the Iranians rebuild the capacity for war. There is a dominant and wrong view in Washington, says Newt Gingrich, that the combination of economic and diplomatic pressure will force the Iranians to agree to abandon 47 years of history and sign a truce which strips them of everything for which they've been working their whole lives. This is a deeply anti. Historic view. Newt reminding myself and you is that's what his thing was before he got into politics. As a historian, history professor, this is a deeply anti historic view. Why would you expect a dictatorship which survived 1 million casualties, fighting Iraq to be intimidated by a few weeks of bombing? Why would you think a dictatorship which killed 42,000 of its own citizens earlier this year would worry about economic pressure and blockades? We keep applying values and principles which would affect us, but the Iranian dictatorship is not us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's a great clear headed thinking right there.

[Joe Getty]

I think he's right. By the way. Everybody seems to have settled on this 42,000 number based on reports and everything like that. Think about that. All those young people in the streets protesting, trying to take their country back from a bunch of nut job, zealot, religious crazy people and they machine gunned and beat in the street to death 42,000 people. And how many more like, you know, had an eye taken out or whatever,

[Jack Armstrong]

dragged him out of hospital beds, killed him in the streets?

[Joe Getty]

It's amazing that you can still do that in the modern world and get away with it for a variety of reasons. Part of it is who's going to stop them. Part of it is a willingness to overlook that because it seems multicultural to not attack Iran for doing this sort of thing, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, among like the left.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

They don't dare hesitate a foreign regime because their entire identity is based on self hatred.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unless that regime is Israel. Right, yeah, that's because the whole settler colonial thingy.

[Joe Getty]

Anywho, I, I think I agree with Newt on that stuff. I, God, I would think somebody be in Trump's ear saying all this delaying is allowing, it's making it harder for us in the military. I would think Pete or somebody would be telling him this. We, we had him pretty beaten down. If we were going to continue at that point, it was going to be a lot easier. Now Russia's shipped them this and that and they've had a chance to rebuild this or that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I seriously worry that Cutter is in Trump's ear and is cutting him some sort of giant deal or whatever. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I sure hope you're wrong about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope I am.

[Joe Getty]

I haven't gotten that cynical yet. Well, wake up. I do agree with, I've heard Noah Rothman, who's got a book out about left wing violence right now and hope we get to talk to him in the near future. He's with National Review, but I've heard Noah Rothman make this point the People who are talking about. And now, now they're even more hardline because of our attack of Iran and what we've. Yeah, come on. They've been the number one supporter of terror in the world my entire adult life. How much more hardline can you get?

[Jack Armstrong]

They killed people in the streets before Trump jumped ugly.

[Joe Getty]

They slaughtered 42,000 people before of their own citizens before the war started.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gee, I hope the real hardliners don't take over.

[Joe Getty]

Right, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It just seems silly. Yeah, yeah. Troubled times.

[Joe Getty]

But when we do open the can of hoop ass back up again, which I think is going to happen, man, Iran strikes out to Southern Europe or all the countries around them or whatever. This could get crazy, crazy fast. Everything that was discussed early on in this war about how it could tumble out of control like wars often do is still 100 on the table, maybe even more so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, bigger doesn't necessarily mean out of control. It might take that escalation to de. Escalate it eventually to defeat the evildoers, but it's a tough nut to crack. I mean there's just, there's no gung ho, we gotta whoop ass and send them back to the stone age, blah blah, blah. No, they are entrenched, they are serious and they are dead enders.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, and I assume when we attack this time they'll really have the there's no point in holding anything back mood going. Yes, I'm talking about them, not us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cornered beast.

[Joe Getty]

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I know what you're asking yourself. What would it sound like if Dolly Parton's Jolene was done in the style of Dire Straits?

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[Jack Armstrong]

That's pretty good. Mark Top. Is that AI or is that. I think it's a dude. It's a real dude. Michael, you nodded yes to both of those possibilities.

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It's a real guy. But either. Does it make any difference? Does it make any difference?

[Jack Armstrong]

It does to me. It matters very much. I don't know. I really don't.

[Joe Getty]

Did that guy make a cent off of that?

[Jack Armstrong]

He's getting YouTube clicks. I assume that's from YouTube.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. You know, speaking of which, where is that?

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

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I have entertained the good people for five seconds of their lives.

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Oh no, I. I really worry about that sort of thing. And I don't think it's just, you know, the standard old guy resists change. It's these fundamental changes in the way that information is exchanged or creativity is expressed or, you know, here's a somewhat related topic. I actually had never heard the term dad books.

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The go to gifts for Father's Day. A book about some little known chapter of World War II, the sweeping narrative of a shipwreck, perhaps the latest presidential biography or history book.

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[Jack Armstrong]

These days, dad books are a dying breed. They say non fiction book sales have been in decline for the past four years. We've talked to our good friend Tim Sandifer about that. People just don't read books like they did a few years ago. And nonfiction is now the most challenged segment of the print book market. Celebrity memoirs are still doing well. Slaps, forehead he just took the side out of me.

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[Jack Armstrong]

If I were more flexible, I would. Religious titles are still doing well as people crave something to fill the God shaped hole, as they say.

[Joe Getty]

But in recent years, there's no meaning in life anymore. So yes, I'm sure, I'm sure religious books are doing well. The Bible, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

But in recent years, print sales in such categories as biography, current affairs, business, economics, what publishers refer to as serious nonfiction and which tend to resonate especially with men, they have fallen considerably. Well, nonfiction titles were down nearly 8% this year.

[Joe Getty]

So one of my favorite jokes ever on television about books was from 30 Rock and the character Tina Fey played on 30 Rock had written a new book. And Alec Baldwin, hilariously, as everything is with him, said, is your book still number one? And she said not got knocked out of number one by the founding father's diet, which I thought was a hilarious joke combining two of the most popular genres in the history of writing. But the people like your Ron Chernow who wrote Alexander Hamilton and Grant in Washington, but you know, the people who write those really big, long, thick Joseph Ellis well researched nonfiction books do it because they get paid millions of dollars. Well, when that goes away, and I think it's gonna go away, are they gonna write them anymore? I mean, would anybody go to that much work?

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's what the publishers believe is behind this. It's not a lack of interest in the topics, but they're calling it the smorgasbord factor. The days when dad books reign supreme are gone because you've got audiobooks, endless supplies of substack newsletters, Netflix documentaries, YouTube videos, podcasts, that sort of thing that used to be limited to, as they described them, doorstop sized books. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so interesting. You know, it's funny, I have this impulse to write and I do still some but I like get the links and turned on to various substack thinkers. Some of these people are brilliant, just brilliant. And they poor how God knows how much research into some of these things and they're incredibly smart and long and blah blah blah. But there's so much.

[Joe Getty]

Well, okay, so part of what you presented there is not the death of reading, it's just the death of reading a certain kind of reading that has existed all of our lives. If people are reading, yeah, other deep stuff that's maybe shorter but more specific to the issue on substack or wherever,

[Jack Armstrong]

or listening while they walk their dog,

[Joe Getty]

that's not a bad thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, back when Baxter was still kicking, that's what I did when I walked him. I would listen to history podcasts mostly

[Joe Getty]

so Trump had a pretty good day in the primaries yesterday. A lot of his backed candidates, or hated candidates depending on how you looked at it. Got the result he wanted.

[Jack Armstrong]

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Thomas Massie's a terrible congressman. He's been a terrible congressman from day one. Dealing with him is just a horrible. I don't think he's a Republican. I think he's actually, I think he's actually a Democrat. He's not a Libertarian. You know, sometimes they say he's really a Democrat. He votes against us all the time. His vote, actually. Thomas Massie, Republican House Representative from Kentucky, voted with, with what Trump wanted, I think 95% of the time. And his conservative record was in the high 90s or whatever for most of his career. But he is all over the map on stuff. He started out as a libertarian, which, which a lot of us really, really liked, but turned out to be kind of phony because then he went a different direction with COVID for a while. Then he, then he decided to. And what, what turned Trump off? The reason Trump said the other day that he backed Massey's opponent and that Massey is the worst congressman in our country's history, because that's what everything has got to Be with Donald Trump, everything's got to be the best thing ever or the worst thing ever. Nothing could be pretty bad or just, you should vote him out. He's got to be the worst member in the history of the House. We get it.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

Massey went really big on Epstein, including like talking in committee hearings about victims that don't exist. I mean, just like really out there wacky stuff and blaming everything in Epstein and then tying in the juice to it more recently. And we played the clip a couple of weeks ago where I remember, my reaction was, okay, this guy's a nut job and he got to go. Where he talked about the Department of Homeland Security's IP address for their website actually is based in Tel Aviv. That's how tied into Israel there. He said that on Tucker Carlson's show, for crying out freaking loud. Anyway, when he lost last night, he got primaried by Trump's preferred candidate. This is what he said at his consolation rally. Listen, I would. I would have come out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede and it took a while to find Ed G In Tel Aviv.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nice. A secret Jew. He's controlled by the Jews, so. Holy crap, I never thought I'd live to see this.

[Joe Getty]

I know. So even as he lost, he had to take the shot of, you know, the Jews control my opponent or whatever I tweeted out. You know, thank God he lost. Trump got this one right. Some of you pushed back that Trump turned on him because of Epstein, not because of his anti Israel take. True enough, although Massey tied those two things together, as people often do. But probably I haven't looked today, but probably fifth to a quarter of the responses were F you guys or I'm never listening to you guys anymore or whatever. From those of you who think we're too pro Israel or think anybody who's pro Israel is a tool of Israel.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Which is really, really interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I've blasted people who think that, and I've tried to reach a more conciliatory tone that the best con men, the best grifters on earth are pitching the anti Semitism rationale, and a certain number of people are falling for it. It's worked over and over and over again in history. It's wrong, it's ugly, it's dangerous, and it's despicable. But God, for some reason it reminds me of socialism, communism. You can pitch it to generation after generation and certain number of folks will take you up on the offer. It has a brutal, ugly appeal to it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And what's bad news for Israel and Jewish people in general in the United States is on the left they hate you because of the whole oppressor, oppressed, settler colonialism bs. And on the right there's a lot of the Jews control everything. Just flat out old fashioned anti Semitism,

[Jack Armstrong]

Protocols of the Elders of Zion style garbage.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And we got a text the other day I meant to read where she basically said that I used to not understand how this happened in Germany and why nobody did anything, and now I understand it. And Joe and I have said the same thing. I never understood really the Cultural Revolution in China, how that got going, or the whole Jewish thing in Nazi Germany in the 30s long before, you know, you got to World War II and death camps. Now I get happens and kind of slowly and then suddenly as the old saying goes. And then to a certain extent some people stay quiet because you don't know who gets all riled up when you come to the support of whatever crowd. And, and it just, it's wild. It's wild to live through.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we saw the dynamic in, you know, the most obvious situation be like you're a schoolteacher in California, for instance, during the whole woke madness and the gender bending madness. You knew it was madness, but if you spoke out, you doubted enough people would back you up to defend you, that you wouldn't lose your job or be ostracized or whatever. Now picture if the downside wasn't to be ostracized or even lose your job, it would be to be beaten down the street and maybe killed. And you weren't sure who's with you. And the energy is on that militant side. A lot of people keep their mouths shut. 1 and the militants win.

[Joe Getty]

One disturbing aspect of this that I guarantee you we're going to see soon is in the presidential election, Democratic candidates are going to have to bend over backwards to make it clear they have not taken a dollar from Israel.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And that's going to be a new thing. That's going to be a new thing that all the Democratic candidates have to make sure they've never taken a single dollar from Israel to have a shot at getting the nomination in that party. That's a troubling development. So I wanted to get to these numbers just because it's interesting. What's the, the group that, the, the initials for the group that lobbies for Israel.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, apac, apec.

[Joe Getty]

Gavin Newsom the other day. I've never taken a dollar. Okay, why, why is that?

[Jack Armstrong]

You take a dollar from anybody to offer it, you crook.

[Joe Getty]

China, lobbying, lobbying dollars spent in America by country. Here I got your top 10. Israel is 10th, by the way. They don't exactly control the country. They're 10th. China between 2016 and 2024. These are the last numbers they have. So it's spread out over eight years. China spent almost half a trillion dollars, two and a half times what Israel spent. I'm more worried about politicians taking money from China than Israel. By far. Anyway. Japan spends about double what Israel spends. So does Liberia. Anybody ever think about how much money have you taken from Liberia? South Korea spends way more. Marshall Islands, Saudi Arabia. Listen to this. Saudi Arabia and Qatar, 6 and 7.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Joe Getty]

Spend significantly more than Israel spends lobbying in the United States of America. The Bahamas, 240 million. UAE got. So you got for your Middle Eastern, Arab, Muslim countries that are spending tons more money than Israel and who's making sure no politician took a single dollar from them? And then Israel is in 10th place, $180 million. So to me, that should end the whole. They run our politics and it's outrageous that they have a lobby and spend so much money. Lots of countries do. And turns out lots of countries spend a hell of a lot more, including among sworn enemies of the United States.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, or Islamists. Yeah. Yeah. But logic does not have a chance against somebody who's just looking for someone to hate as an explanation of the way the world works or why their lives aren't what they want them to be or what what have you.

[Joe Getty]

So I haven't watched Hunter Biden on Candace Owens yet that I don't think.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm afraid my eyes might burst into flames.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think it comes out till tomorrow. She's just, she's good at. She and Tucker are good at this sort of thing. Building anticipation, putting out some clips, letting you know when it comes out. But I'll probably watch at least some of the interview. I've seen some of the highlights in which it appears. Now, she may have edited it in this way to make it more jazzy than it turns out to be. In fact, she almost certainly did. But it sounds like Hinter Hunter blames a lot of the way. Why everybody turned on his dad is because we weren't tied in with the Epstein class. I've seen that quote in particular.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. Nice try. Everybody's a grifter. Excuse me, I want to talk about the endorsement thing. Back to Trump very briefly. Mark my words. Trump has gone full Herschel Walker on Texas. He endorsed last minute. What's attorney General Walker, remember Herschel Walker, was the, the running back who he propped up to run in Georgia for a Senate seat. Yeah, I'm sorry, that was a little obscure.

[Joe Getty]

Trump, who then lost. So picking a bad candidate that guarantees you lose.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he picked a couple of loyal, bootlicking Trumpy people in Georgia who lost two utterly winnable seats because his only standard is who licks my boots the most thoroughly.

[Joe Getty]

That is one of the, the most overlooked things, bad things that Trump has done in his two terms is that he turned Georgia from a two guaranteed republics and senators, which he'd have two more senators. So when it's been tied it. Well, it wouldn't be tied. You got two extra senators plus the Vice President and turned them both blue out of just stupidity. I mean just, ah, the fact that he gets a pass for that is amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he might accomplish the superhuman achievement of turning Texas, one of Texas's seats, blue in the Senate. Cuz he did this last minute endorsement of Ken Paxton who's the Attorney General. He's half a dozen sorts of crook and incompetent. He's been impeached by his own party and he got rid of John Cornyn who's been voting along with the Trump agenda. Well, he's trying to get rid of Cornyn in favor of Paxton. Cornyn's been a reliable conservative vote. He's voted with Trump over and over and over again. But as the Wall Street Journal editorial board points out, Trump chose to ignore Majority Leader John Thune and go along with Mr. Packton's supporters in the plaintiff's bar who love his lawsuits against business and you know, all politics is personal for Trump. And he explained on Truth social Tuesday that Mr. Cornyn, quote, was not supportive of me when times were tough, citing the fact that Cornyn was late with a presidential endorsement. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and Senator Cassidy got primaried and lost the other day. He was one of the, what, seven Republican votes to remove Trump from office after January 6th. So all of those people are out of office now that voted to remove Trump from.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and you could, you could make the case that that's not an insane piece of political retribution. I mean, that's a pretty strong, you know, making an enemy thing. But Cornyn was just, Corny was just a little late in endorsing Trump and Paxton again licked his boots more thoroughly. It's, you know, terrible.

[Joe Getty]

That's a good point. I don't know why I hadn't thought about that. But the whole Senator Cassidy who voted to, you Know, guilty basically in the impeachment of, of Donald Trump. Yeah. I mean, so the media was presenting. That is just horrific that Trump ran somebody against him, but it is somebody who's trying to end your career. So, yeah, you being against them and wanting them gone only makes political sense. Even though I tend to agree with Cassidy's vote on that.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was the J6 one, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The January 6th trial, the actual. Yeah. The only good news, and I don't follow this midterm stuff hardly at all. If you want to do that's. If that's why you want to spend your, your hours on, on Earth, feel free. I am not going to spend my life on this stuff, but I will listen to some podcasts where they talk about it a little bit. And I was listening to a podcast the other day and I've heard several people say that across the country. This is kind of like during the Tea Party Fever back in 2010 where Republicans ran a bunch of horrible candidates because they declared themselves Tea Party people. I was, we were Tea Party people. We spoke at rallies. I was on board with the overall general national message, sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Until the grifters moved in.

[Joe Getty]

But people got so caught up in it. If somebody ran against a, like a, you know, primaried somebody or whatever because I'm a Tea Party guy, then everybody voted for him because we're all in favor of the Tea Party thing. And some horrible candidates that ended up losing some once again very winnable seats got lost because of these bad candidates. The Democrats are repeating that now, according to the people I listen to all across the country running like woke nonsense, pro trans this and that and all kinds of open border stuff that, that they're going to lose winnable seats for Democrats by going and Islamists in some cases. Yeah. So that's a good news if you lean Republican, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good, good. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

In fact, Mark Halperin said the idea that the House is absolutely going to go the way of the Democrats is no longer true. Still the most likely result, but it's much closer than it was a month

[Jack Armstrong]

or so ago unless the Republicans completely screw it up. And they will.

[Joe Getty]

And there's a hell of a lot of things that are going to happen between now and November, including a war that will probably end one way or another, you know, in a way we like or a way don't. We will finish strong. Next Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

Letterman, one of your last guests. Letterman was our last guest. Very last, very last guest. He said to me something very profound. He said, don't confuse cancellation with failure. And I thought that was profound. And then he said, don't, don't confuse cancellation with failure. But then he said, but in this case, it is also a failure. That's a very Letterman thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Yes, it is.

[Joe Getty]

That was Jon Stewart on Colbert last night. Is this Colbert's last week? This week? Yeah. So he's got his tomorrow's last. Yeah, last show's tomorrow. And so Colbert is, you know, he took over from Letterman and Letterman went over from NBC to CBS back in the day and it was like a really, really big deal because those shows still brought in tons of audiences and tons of money at the time. And it's before they became political and Letterman was like the biggest thing ever. Anyway, so Letterman was on Friday night with Colbert and complaining about CBS because, I mean, he revamped the Ed Sullivan Theater for his. And it's still, he still feels like, you know, he's some ownership in that time slot in that show. And anyway, he was angry at CBS and everything like that. So they took a bunch of the furniture up on the roof and threw it off the roof onto the. Do you see any of the video that. It's such a classic old timey 80s letterman thing to do to take the CBS chairs and tables and throw them off the roof and watch them smash onto the street below. Oh, that was funny. God, Letterman back in the day, if you missed that, you're too young or whatever. That was so amazing. Letterman of the 80s was amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Different time, though. Yeah. When it was just, it was just jokes and celebrities and fun and snark and stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stuff.

[Joe Getty]

But it had nothing to do with hateful politics.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, they. You wouldn't do that.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

You wouldn't want to dirty yourself in it.

[Joe Getty]

And your audience wouldn't have been interested. They'd have been bored to tears by that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yeah. If he had identified themselves as their politics all the time. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Letterman in the 80s saying, I've got house member so and so on. You'd be like, what?

[Jack Armstrong]

Why? His final thoughts, boys. That'll do, boys. Soon we'll hear your comments, entertain us, give us closure. For the show is nearly done. They were directed by Paul Schaeffer.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day. There he is, Michelangelo, pressing the buttons. Michael, what's your final thought?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I still miss the early Leatherman, early Letterman shows and also Conan o' Brien's staring contest with Andy Richter. They just stare each other down.

[Jack Armstrong]

Simpler times. Yes. Jack, a final thought for us, man,

[Joe Getty]

if you have any interest in that. I read the book as a big Letterman fan. Old Letterman fan. And from the early days, the last king of late night. Fantastic book about his rise and behind the scenes was so interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I'm gonna cede my final thought to the great H.L. menken. The only proper way to look at a politician is down.

[Joe Getty]

Say that is accurate 99 times out of 100. So

[Jack Armstrong]

tune in tomorrow for an update on punch the Monkey.

[Joe Getty]

Let's listen to that. Is that a flute? Can you crank that up a little? Michael, is that actually a flute?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. Or is it an organ voice that's supposed to sound like a flute?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I often get fooled by like a shell.

[Jack Armstrong]

There was a slide up. That sounded like a real flute to me.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty Rapid radio grueling four

[Jack Armstrong]

hour welcome to Is that a Flute?

[Joe Getty]

Good stuff, guys.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, so many people.

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