Sorry Claude, the Pope Hates You!

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Sorry Claude, the Pope Hates You!
Date: May 26, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Guest: Heather Myers (Newsmax)

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Episode Overview

This Armstrong & Getty episode launches the unofficial start of summer with a characteristic blend of current events, irreverent banter, and pointed cultural commentary. The central themes: skepticism over who should opine on AI (with a papal twist), global tech propaganda battles (mainly with China), unfolding confusion over an Iran nuclear deal, candid talk about homelessness debates, and a lively news segment with guest Heather Myers. The hosts pepper in personal anecdotes, social observations, and their trademark mix of satire and seriousness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. AI, the Pope, and Public Commentary

[03:21] – [03:43]

• The title joke: "Sorry Claude, the Pope hates you!" is rooted in recent remarks by the Pope on Artificial Intelligence, prompting Jack and Joe’s cut-to-the-chase question: should people outside the tech sphere be opining on AI?
  • Jack: “We gotta get people who have no idea what they're talking about out of the commenting on AI business.”
  • Joe adds a tongue-in-cheek note about not letting AI “eat humanity and reduce us to miserable wrecks.”
• Both hosts agree—people should be wary, but the Pope weighing in reflects a broader problem of uninformed commentary.

Notable Quote:

“Mr. Pope, what about China? They're not going to observe any of your moral guidelines.” — Joe Getty [12:08]

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2. Iran Deal Uncertainty & Defensive Bombing

[03:43] – [05:10], [25:41] – [34:35]

• The hosts discuss reports of a nascent, unclear Iran deal. While media and critics are quick to condemn it, specifics remain fuzzy.
• Defensive strikes by the U.S. on Iranian targets (in response to mining boats in the Strait of Hormuz) prompt sarcasm about the concept of “defensive bombs.”
• Trump’s insistence that “Iran will never have a nuclear weapon” is contrasted with skepticism about what any “deal” might actually entail.

Notable Quote:

“If I get bombed on [and] I found out that was a defensive bomb, then I feel better about myself.” — Jack Armstrong [04:02]

• In a later, in-depth segment, Jack and Joe compare the prospective deal to the Obama-era JCPOA, stressing historical sunset clauses and insufficient inspections.
• They highlight ongoing Iranian denials about opening the Strait, deep mistrust of Iran’s intent, and the manipulation of American opinion via foreign-backed misinformation.

Notable Quotes:

“We are in a full-on war for who gets AI first with China... and they're convincing our population that we can't have data centers.” — Jack Armstrong [11:33]

“The anywhere anytime inspections... if it's another, you get a month to clean the area up... then that's ridiculous.” — Jack Armstrong [33:03]

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3. The Chinese Propaganda Machine & AI Data Centers

[06:27] – [11:58]

• Reference to Kevin O’Leary (Shark Tank's “Mr. Wonderful”) and his defense of U.S. AI data center projects in Utah.
  • O’Leary claims that much of the environmental pushback against these projects is funded or instigated by Chinese and Russian interests who want to stymie U.S. progress.
  • Tucker Carlson/Twitter debate with O’Leary is recapped: O’Leary sees foreign propaganda as a patriotic affront and personally investigates to uncover these connections.
• The hosts argue that opposition to technological development in the U.S.—especially around AI—is artificially magnified by adversary nations.

Notable Quote:

“The reason you've heard the pushback is because of China... what felt like national pushback is freaking China.” — Jack Armstrong [07:47]

• Joe points out the vulnerability of open societies to information warfare, comparing the U.S. to a "college game" between an open and a surveillance state society.

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4. Memorial Day Reflections & Cultural Memory

[04:34] – [05:32], [44:52] – [45:02]

• Jack recounts visiting a cemetery with his son, a tradition of placing flags on veterans’ graves—a moment for reflecting on the true meaning of Memorial Day.
• Joe invokes the end of "Saving Private Ryan" and the importance of living in a way that honors past sacrifices: “Make it worth it, essentially, carry on the mission.”
• Joe reads the full Gettysburg Address, highlighting its enduring relevance the day after Memorial Day.

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5. “Homelessness” vs. “Drug Addiction” Debate

[13:22] – [14:20]

• A candid conversation about the language and politics around homelessness, riffing on a mayoral candidate's statement:
  • Jack: “They're not homeless. They're drug addicts.”
  • Joe: “Most of these people are addicted to fentanyl and meth.”
    Both suggest that failing to recognize addiction as the primary issue fails to address the root of street homelessness.

Notable Quote:

“Why did it take this long before major candidates... started saying they're not homeless, they're drug addicts?” — Jack Armstrong [13:34]

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6. Headlines Segment with Heather Myers

[19:03] – [22:06]

• Guest Heather Myers from Newsmax jumps in for a “lead story” segment, recapping and comparing headlines:
  • Trump’s medical visits and health questions as he nears 80.
  • Defensive U.S. military strikes in Iran amid negotiations.
  • California gas prices over $6/gallon and links to the state’s energy policies.
  • White House construction of a UFC ring for Trump’s birthday.
  • A Babylon Bee satirical headline about Netflix’s “wife mode.”
• The hosts interject with humor, skepticism, and sighs at the day’s absurd news cycle.

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7. Cultural/Generational Consistencies

[36:07] – [38:56]

• Jack shares an anecdote from a book about the King James Bible era, laughing at how every young person in 1600s London aspired to be a novelist or inventor rather than work the farm—today’s equivalent of aspiring influencers or rock stars.
• The more things change...

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8. Mailbag & Listener Feedback

[45:31] – [47:31]

• Audience contributes familiar jokes about the meaning of “politics” (“poly,” Greek for “many,” and “ticks,” bloodsucking parasites), and pushback on previous Paxton/Cornyn commentary.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "Don't let the greatest force of liberty and opportunity ever assembled on earth go to hell just because the medium, the universities, wanted to fight on my friends, in whatever way you can."
  — Joe Getty [05:10]

• “If I came in tomorrow sporting that accent, I'd work on it really hard this afternoon.”
  — Joe Getty, mocking panel coverage [28:46]

• “Every young person today thinks they're going to be a novelist or an inventor. No, you're not. Learn to plow.”
  — Jack Armstrong [37:07]

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Key Timestamps

• AI and Pope commentary: [03:21] – [03:43]
• Iran deal confusion: [03:43] – [05:10], [25:41] – [34:35]
• China, AI data centers, propaganda: [06:27] – [11:58]
• Homelessness/addiction debate: [13:22] – [14:20]
• Lead Story w/ Heather Myers: [19:03] – [22:06]
• Cultural continuity / "novelist or inventor" anecdote: [36:07] – [38:56]
• Gettysburg Address reading: [44:52] – [45:02]
• Mailbag & listener feedback: [45:31] – [47:31]

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Tone & Style Highlights

The hosts maintain their characteristic irreverent and skeptical style, moving quickly from sardonic humor to earnest commentary. Topical references are made accessible with context or through relatable analogy (“data centers/China propaganda,” “homelessness/drug addiction,” “old vs. new tech ambitions”). Guest Heather Myers contributes throughout the headlines segment in a breezily professional, slightly tongue-in-cheek style.

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Summary

This episode typifies Armstrong & Getty’s blend of news, satire, and cultural critique. Highlights include their broadside against the Pope’s entry into the AI debate, substantial skepticism about U.S. foreign policy and media narratives, pointed discussion of addiction underlying urban homelessness, and plenty of gallows humor about politics, generational aspirations, and the unchanging nature of human folly.

Listeners walk away entertained, informed, and equipped with new angles on everything from global tech wars to the semantics of homelessness, plus a few hearty laughs along the way.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Wanna drive Carmax? Unofficially. Summer. And it's 64 degrees in the studio. I wish I'd have brought a parka. Good God. Live from Studio C. Si, senor. A dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Yeti communications compound. And hey, y'. All. Kicking off a brand new week. What was the one? Oh, this could be a week where all your dreams come true, or this could be a week where you fall in a pothole when you get out of your car and boil like a lobster. You don't know how the week's gonna turn out. Anyway, today we're toiling under the title of the show Not a deal in

[Joe Getty]

the conventional sense or Sorry, Claude, the Pope hates you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, the Pope weighing in on AI. Good God. We gotta get people who have no idea what they're talking about out of the commenting on AI business.

[Joe Getty]

Most, you know, let's. Let's not let it eat humanity and reduce us to miserable wrecks.

[Jack Armstrong]

I agree with them on that. I agree, too. The other one, I assume, is about this Iran deal, that nobody knows what it actually is yet. Many of the cable channels are going on and on about how horrible it is yet. We don't know what it is yet.

[Joe Getty]

And we're bombing them again. Well, that was some.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was defensive bombing, Joe.

[Joe Getty]

I see. Oh, well, sorry.

[Jack Armstrong]

If I get bombed on bomb drops on my head and I found out that was a defensive bomb, not an offensive bomb, then I feel better about myself. Why is Iran trying to mine the Straits? I heard Marco Rubio put an S on the end of it. So I guess we're back to straits. Why is Iran trying to mine the Straits and we have to bomb their mining boats if they're about to sign some sort of deal opening the strait.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I. I am as baffled as I've been on this topic. And I've been pretty baffled for a long time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, welcome to summer, the unofficial beginning of summer. How was Memorial Day weekend? Fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

Super.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was up early, early yesterday and took my son and his Boy Scout uniform to the cemetery where all the scouts place all the flags on all the veterans. Veterans. What. What do you say? Plots the plot?

[Joe Getty]

Graves.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gray, Is grave the right word? That seems. Well, it seems dark, but is grave the right thing?

[Joe Getty]

They have died, which. Resting places.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go. That's a good one.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

The resting place of all of the veterans there at the right.

[Joe Getty]

I love that, you know, putting Aside the linguistic challenges here. Yeah, that's absolutely beautiful. We didn't make it for stupid logistic reasons to the national cemetery. We visit sometimes on Memorial Day and other times. But yeah, it was moving. Watched some ceremonies on TV and that sort of thing and got to remember, got to remember why we have a holiday. Yeah, I mean, it's great to have a good time, but by God, we owe a lot to the folks who've sacrificed for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

There was a brass band playing in a choir singing and speeches even in my communist America hating town. So I was glad to see that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. You know what I'm reminded of at the very, very end of Saving Private Ryan, the best movie in the world except for Shakespeare in Love, Never Forget, Never Forgive, where the protagonist says to his young relatives, as I recall, make it worth it, essentially, carry on the mission. That's how we remember those who've fallen. I mean, the ceremonies are great and thinking of them is great, but don't let the mission fail. Don't let the greatest force of liberty and opportunity ever assembled on earth go to hell just because the medium. The universities wanted to fight on my friends, in whatever way you can.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you mentioning Gwenneth Paltrow reminded me that I saw way too much of her in the sex scenes in Marty supreme, which reminded me that Marty supreme, The movie features Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank, which reminded me I watched him over the weekend with Tucker Carlson debating on why we need to have these big giant data centers for AI all around the country to keep up with China and that all of this, not all, but a great deal. He did the research himself, you know, the guy from what's his, what's his actual name from Shark Tank, Mr. Wonderful. Anyhow, bald headed guy, you've seen him a million times talking about business and that sort of stuff. He is behind him personally, financially. The big giant data center in Utah that's been getting so much pushback and he did all the research, hired lawyers and, and investigators and everything like that. It's almost all international from other countries. It's China and Russia and other countries who don't want us to have data centers to be able to compete in the AI realm with them.

[Joe Getty]

Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

So all that stuff you're seeing floating around by electricity and water and all these different things and what it does to the environment that's coming out of China. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And while there are challenges to any new technology or development or what have you, I mean, that's obvious. Yeah. The people really, really pushing that. This is horrifying and shouldn't happen. Yeah, those groups are financed by China.

[Jack Armstrong]

The reason you've heard the pushback is because of China. You wouldn't even heard the pushback otherw it have been tiny groups of, you know, environmental weirdos protesting the day they broke ground or something that protest everything. But the. The. The what felt like national pushback is freaking China. And I got to look up his name. We don't have Katie here, so I can say Katie's. Look up Mr. Wonderful's actual name for me, William. But he. He said on Tucker Carlson, and he got into quite a debate because Tucker, of course, is. Well, he's working for China or Qatar or whoever he's working for. But anyway, Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank said, I'm taking this as a personal offense that China is trying to start this. Stop this business. As a patriot, I am fighting back against this. This is why he hired all these investigators and is trying to get the word out that don't let Russia and China convince you that this is a bad idea.

[Joe Getty]

Kevin o'. Leary.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kevin o'. Leary.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, if you knew that, Michael, why didn't you say something?

[Joe Getty]

I was just popping the mic to say it right now, as a matter of fact.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are you just sitting back there laughing that I didn't come. Couldn't come up with it? Look at the old man who can't come up with the name Kevin o'.

[Joe Getty]

Leary. That's what you're saying. Let's let the idiot stew for a minute. I know the name, but I'm not telling him. Idiots. Oh, he hates us.

[Jack Armstrong]

So when you turn on your microphone, Michael's in a different room. So when you turn on your microphone, I hear a fan. Is it hot in there? Yeah, it's. So there's no error. 64 in this room and 84 in that room.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Yes, That's a good system. We're hot boxing him. Fail to give us the name of Mr. Wonderful. Spend a night in a box. That's an old movie reference, but it just.

[Jack Armstrong]

It shows you what we're up against all the way around them. China stealing our technology, spying in our universities, all the different things, and controlling our media to where it seemed like there was a great uprising of pushback against these data centers, and it was flipping China doing that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. The propaganda of the world. They follow American media. They are more than familiar with how it works. They know how to stoke outrage online. They're really, really good at it. You know, if this was some sort of, you know, a college game, for some political science class where you had two clashing civilizations. And one was an open civilization that could be observed and surveilled and penetrated in the rest of it. And the other one was a carefully controlled dictatorship with a surveillance state. And I was assigned the open society. I'd be thinking, oh crap, we're up against it. It's going to be tough to win. Well, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you know, China and Russia couldn't have done that back in the day. They, they tried. The Soviet Union had writers at Time magazine and all that sort of stuff, but there were, it was much, much harder. Now you just, you got to get it online to pull it off. Kevin o' Leary tweeted out over the weekend, we uncovered something far bigger than I ever expected. After seeing coordinated false attacks against the Utah Data center project, we brought in advanced data science, blah, blah, blah. I'll read into this a little bit later, but it's, it's disturbing how good a job our enemies got did of, of, of making it seem like this was a really controversial thing.

[Joe Getty]

Mm. Yeah. That's wild. Yeah. It reminds me the original, and I guess, well, the original example of this. We all became aware during the George Floyd madness that they were stoking both sides, trying to get us at each other's throats. I guess the only thing the open society in my illustration reality can do is be aware of it and be skeptical of, you know, anti Americanness, anti development, anti science. It's. These are tough times, God darn it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. With the, the end of the post basically being in the. And the reality that we are in a full on war for who gets AI first with China and, and you know, the AI that's going to take over the world perhaps. And, and they're convincing our population that we can't have data centers. Well, of course they're going to build whatever the hell they want to build.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Which brings me back to the question I always have for hardcore AI skeptics, I guess you'd call them, or anti AI people, including the Pope. Mr. Pope, what about China?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

They're not going to observe any of your moral guidelines. They're going to get it first and God help us then. Well, you'll have more business, Mr. Pope, because God will be our only salvation at that point from the ravages of the ChiComs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't trust China. And in short, so we got some primaries that are happening today and soon to happen, we're gonna, you know, run off in California for governor. We got the whole mayor thing. In Los Angeles and in Texas today, you got the big one with the scumbag Paxton scumbag that Trump backed versus the sitting senator. More on that later. But let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Jo Gettia on this. It is Tuesday, May 26, the year 2026. We're Armstrong and Getty, and we approve this program.

[Joe Getty]

It almost sounded like you said Jew Getty. Which reminds me, that the new euphemism for the Jews, it used to be globalists. And before that, people make reference to, you know, I can't remember the Bilderberg group, but all means Jews. The new one is the Epstein class.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's what you say if you want to indict the Jews.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what Hunter said on Candace's show the other day. God, my husband was never part of the Epstein class. Hunter Biden said.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Mark, what are your plans for the over 40,000 homeless in Los Angeles?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, they're not homeless. They're drug addicts.

[Joe Getty]

Most of these people are addicted to fentanyl and meth.

[Jack Armstrong]

This isn't spent. Are you saying they don't have homes? Why did it take this long before major candidates in races around the country started saying they're not homeless, they're drug addicts? Don't call them homeless people. They're drug addicts.

[Joe Getty]

They live rent free in a tent and do drugs.

[Jack Armstrong]

The reason they don't have a place to live is they messed up their lives being drug addicts.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah,

[Jack Armstrong]

finally. And that's the dude that might end up being mayor of Los Angeles before you know it. Although I heard from somebody yesterday. He's a tool of the Jews.

[Joe Getty]

Oh,

[Jack Armstrong]

Spencer. Brett. I don't even know where that came from. Yikes. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Unplug the Internet. Unplug it. Just unplug it.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is kind of exciting. So usually this next segment, we do headlines. Katie used to do headlines, but she's at home with a tiny little baby that she just had 15 days ago. We got a new person that's going to fill in till Katie gets back, and we're going to try that out next and see how it goes.

[Joe Getty]

So that's gonna go great. Are you kidding?

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course it's gonna go great.

[Joe Getty]

See how it goes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm trying to build six excitement. Oh, no suspense. People will stick around. This is the whole thing.

[Joe Getty]

It could be terrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

People could die.

[Joe Getty]

Good Lord, what are we doing to ourselves?

[Jack Armstrong]

I know.

[Joe Getty]

I'm excited.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you, Michael.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so down. Fanboy.

[Jack Armstrong]

It will. At the very least we'll get the headlines and find out what's going on in the world. Matt's coming up next.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

of the funniest times never change stories for you that I learned over the weekend. And I think it is uniquely rough time to to be in the world to raise kids. All that sort of stuff with AI and, and the Internet and smartphone, stuff like that. Definitely true, but a funny some things never change that we'll get to later this hour.

[Joe Getty]

Excellent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Particularly about young people, the young generation.

[Joe Getty]

Timeless wisdom with Jack Armstrong. Stay with us. So generally when Katie was pre mom, she would do this segment, we called it the lead story where she would bring us the headlines of the day so we could consider them and kind of get a little digest of the news. But Katie is off for a while on maternity leave and we have invited and borrowed from Newsmax, an old friend of the show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Old.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry? God, I implied. You're old. You're not old. You're beautiful. You're young. You're youthful.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fabulous. Can we get a second take on that?

[Joe Getty]

That is. This is why I have no friends.

[Jack Armstrong]

Heather, that is not. That was not what you're supposed to say.

[Heather Myers]

Oh wow, that was quite the introduction

[Joe Getty]

right out of college time friend since she was six years old.

[Heather Myers]

Elderly friends.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Heather Myers]

Let's bring her on in.

[Joe Getty]

Look at her. Isn't that special? She can still speak, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, exactly. Oh.

[Joe Getty]

So let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with the fabulous Heather Myers.

[Heather Myers]

Heather, Jack and Joe, good morning to you. Let's compare contrast some headlines, shall we? From CBS News, Trump to Head to Walter Reed for routine annual dental and medical assessments.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Why are his ankles so swollen? Everybody wants to know, but I'll bet

[Joe Getty]

they don't tell us.

[Heather Myers]

Yeah. Ms. Now Trump faces questions about age and health as he heads to to Walter Reed. And from Yahoo News, Donald Trump returns to Hospital for third time in 13 months as health concerns grow.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know what I just heard? I heard it on npr. It's. We all knew it. But for some reason, hearing it struck me anew. Donald Trump is the second oldest president we've ever had behind the first oldest president who was our last president. What are we doing? What is this? Anyway, back to you, Heather. Yeah.

[Heather Myers]

He turns 80 next month.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Well, all right.

[Heather Myers]

From Ms. Now US military says it carried out self defense strikes in Iran as Trump touts negotiations.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who knows what?

[Heather Myers]

Yeah, we'll see what happens next. From Fox News, California gas prices top $6 a gallon as Newsom faces backlash over green energy agenda.

[Joe Getty]

As well he should as he's driven all the refiners out of the state, as we've documented many times.

[Heather Myers]

From ABC News, risk of devastating explosion has been eliminated in California. Toxic chemical take incident. Officials say a crack in the tank has released pressure and the internal temperature is now decreasing. And from the independent, construction work has started at the White House for the UFC ring to celebrate Trump's birthday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

I saw that on Special Report last night with Brett Baer. It's a giant structure. It's just crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a hell of a sentence you just laid on us. That is. Wow. The UFC ring on the White House lawn is almost done for the President's birthday. It's quite the headline. Oh my God.

[Heather Myers]

Yeah, I told you. He's turning 80 and this is how he's celebrating.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who doesn't?

[Joe Getty]

Big fight.

[Heather Myers]

And from the Babylon Bee, Netflix announces wife mode function that explains entire movie before it starts.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I won't have that. Sexism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's funny.

[Joe Getty]

All right, thanks, Heather. Well done.

[Heather Myers]

Thanks, guys.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll talk soon at our old, old friend Heather.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, Heather. Ah, yeah. Why is he talking to her? You're supposed to wonder. That's part of the. It's, it's a mystery. It's. You're, you're, you're not supposed to know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who's he? I don't know. You don't know? Nobody knows. They're going to reveal that.

[Joe Getty]

That's, it's okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Building drama, right? Oh boy. My dad used to say that to me all the time when I was a kid. How about we watch and find out. He would always say,

[Joe Getty]

well, oh goodness. So we'll take a look at the bizarro non deal with Iran coming up

[Jack Armstrong]

and how times never change. I want to get to that too because it's pretty entertaining. A bunch of stuff on the way. Stay right here. Armstrong and Getty when people turn to

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Epic Fury, we lost 13 wonderful souls, wonderful special people. These incredible men and women gave their lives to ensure that the world's number one state sponsor of terror will never have a nuclear weapon. Oh, and they won't. Well, you were probably living your life all weekend, I assume Memorial Day weekend, doing whatever you were doing and didn't follow all the truth social posts that Donald Trump put out at on Saturday, it looked like we were hours from a deal. The way he was talking and the way the media was reporting it. Talking about Iran, the war in Iran. Looked like we were out from a deal. Then it was, we'll announce it tomorrow. And now it's kind of. Nobody knows exactly what it is, but a lot of the stuff that is leaked out ain't that great. I was hoping that this, the things that have leaked out, the negative things that have leaked out can't be true. I just can't believe Trump would agree to something that would allow them to stay on a path to the nuclear weapons. So I'm holding my criticism until we get the actual deal comes out.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, there he was speaking at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier yesterday and he made the point quite forcefully. Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. And he was truthing out that they had to give up. Why does he call the highly enriched uranium nuclear dust?

[Jack Armstrong]

I heard a discussion of that the other day. That's a term some people use, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, fair enough. I just never heard it before. But yeah, he seems pretty unequivocal on the point. So that's good. That's good, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Unless he means it's the same way that Barack Obama meant it. And so they have agreed to not pursue a nuclear weapon. We're going to give them all this money now because they have promised they won't try to get nuclear weapons. Then they get the money and they spend it all on trying to get a nuclear weapon and build rockets. If we do the same deal again, that would not be good. But again, I don't want to criticize it until the details come out.

[Joe Getty]

Well, indeed. Let's play Marco Rubio, 31.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael he's not in a hurry.

[Joe Getty]

He's not going to make a bad deal. I mean the president's not going to

[Jack Armstrong]

make a bad agreement. So let's see what happens.

[Joe Getty]

We're going to give diplomacy every chance to succeed before we, we explore the alternatives.

[Jack Armstrong]

I get what the critics are doing, like Lindsey Graham and the Wall Street Journal editorial board. They're coming out firing, you know, both guns firing. Just hoping if this stuff is true, we hate it. Just want to let you know in case it is true. Like the Wall Street Journal editorial board is no way know how. And the first line of their, their thing was is this it? This is it. After all that, this is it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And then the first Ian panel there, Michael repeated mixed signals on a deal to end the war with Iran. Having said a solution was largely negotiated over the weekend. President Trump 24 hours later, negotiators to not rush into a deal. The President even writing on Truth Social today that negotiations are proceeding nicely. It'll only be a great deal for all or no deal at all. Back to the battlefront and shooting but bigger and stronger than ever before. If I came in tomorrow sporting that accent, I'd work on it really hard this afternoon.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd give you a pass. I wouldn't say, yo Joe, I've known you for 30 some years. What's the deal with the new accent? I would let it go because it sounds cool.

[Joe Getty]

I appreciate that. I think it would really help the show, give it a bit of sophistication.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now if you started being sunglasses indoors guy all of a sudden, I think I'd have to say something.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, interesting, interesting line to cross. So what the hell is going on is everybody's question. Michael Doran is a well known war global trade analyst. He writes for a number of places including the Free Press and he spoke to a senior administration, senior level person in the administration and he's describing. Here it is. In a conversation with a senior administration official over the weekend, the President's thinking on the emerging framework became clearer. The President envisions a two stage process. In the first stage, the two sides would sign a memorandum of understanding and mou obviously focused anyway focused on reopening the strait of Hormuz under international monitoring. The initial agreement is designed to stabilize energy markets, ease military tensions and preserve the ceasefire. In exchange, Iran would receive limited reversible economic relief in the form of oil sales. Okay, that's step number one. Let's everybody calm to hell down. Let's open up the straight and or straights and we'll give you a little lifeline. The second stage would then shift to the core strategic issue, the nuclear program. As the senior official put it to Mr. Doran, what we want is a commitment on the enriched stockpile. Already in the initial memorandum, the MOU here, the administration would press Iran to remove what Trump has taken to calling the nuclear dust, dust, the remnants of Iran's nuclear infrastructure and its stockpiles of enriched uranium. The guiding principle, the official continued, is no dust, no dollars. We are not giving up anything until they give us something. And then he goes through the optimistic and pessimistic scenarios that could unfold if indeed they come to that sort of agreement.

[Jack Armstrong]

I did a fairly. This is what I do for fun. On Memorial Day weekend. I did a fairly deep dive on the jcpoa. That was the deal that the Obama administration struck with Iran and the possible this deal. But so what I haven't heard reported a lot is a bunch of the stipulations in the Obama deal. So Trump comes into office and ends the Obama deal and some people waved their arms like that was just a crazy, awful thing to do. The reason he ended it was a bunch of the stuff was gonna sunset soon, already has. If the JCPOA was still in place and I could dig up my notes on it if you wanted, they would be already full steam ahead in terms of getting a bomb, because that stuff already, some of it was only four

[Joe Getty]

or five years long and we'd be desperately hoping to bribe them into a new deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the deal was, then we'll give you all this money if you sign on the dotted line that you're not going to try to get a nuclear weapon. Well, guess what they did. They took all the money and they kept trying to get enriched uranium and all that sort of stuff. And there was no anywhere, all, all the time inspections. There was a you can inspect if you give us 21 days heads up. And then sometimes, and sometimes they didn't even fulfill that. So Trump ended it because the idea of ending it was our end of it was relief on the sanctions. He wanted to put the sanctions back in place, which we did, which is part of the reason you saw the uprising, you know, Last year and earlier this year, the really big one where they murdered 42,000 people in the street, that was the economic conditions because of the sanctions that kicked in when Trump ended the jcpoa. But, so the problem is, is, is this one going to be a repeat of the Obama thing where they get the sanctions relief, all that money gets unlocked, and then they. They lie about the agreement to stop getting a nuclear weapon?

[Joe Getty]

Right. Well, for what it's worth, Michael Doran, who I've been quoting here, he goes through the optimistic scenario, which is, you know, the negotiations continue and bear fruit, blah, blah, blah. The odds of this happening are slim. He says all available information suggests that the men now running Iran are less flexible than even Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is. But the odds are not zero. We've just got to pressure the crap out of him, is his conclusion.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think a big thing to keep your eye on is the anywhere anytime inspections. Is that what the deal is? Because if you have that with the promise that we find out you're trying to get a nuclear weapon, the war is back on, then I'm more comfortable with. With whatever they signed to. But if it's another, you get a nearly a month to clean the area up and move your scientists or whatever before we go in there, then that's ridiculous.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, and I don't think there's any

[Jack Armstrong]

way Iran's gonna sign on to that.

[Joe Getty]

The whole thing was just so ridiculous. You know, you get 21 days to clean it up, then guys go in, they got a Geiger counter. Hey, we're getting. We're getting a little trace radiation here. No, you're not. Your machine must be broken. Go home now. And that was it. They just had to go home. His pessimistic scenario, I think, is much, much more likely. And that, you know, phase one goes through, but then phase two quickly bogs down and delay mistrust and tactical maneuvering place the negotiations on a road to nowhere consistent with the pattern of all previous US Iran nuclear talks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I will shut up after this because, again, so much speculation because we don't know what the deal is yet, but Iranian sources are saying we haven't agreed to open the strait. Trump's saying they've agreed to open the strait. And they're saying Marco Rubio said, and some Iranians, anyway, are telling the media there that, no, we haven't. We're not opening the strait. Right. Who knows?

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[Jack Armstrong]

So I was rereading part of this book that I read years ago called God's Secretaries. It's about after Queen Elizabeth the First died and King James took over, he put together a bunch of people to write a Bible. That's why it's called the King James Bible.

[Joe Getty]

This was late 1600s, early 1700s.

[Jack Armstrong]

1803 is when they started the Bible.

[Joe Getty]

That's right, sir.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shakespeare's still bumping around and the plague hits and all that sort of stuff. Oh, I want to talk about that later. What the plague was like for those people. Anyway, one interesting thing I came across in reading all about this was the changing times that they were having there and the complaint that every young person today wants to either be a novelist or an inventor. Nobody wants to just work on the farm and do their job like they're supposed to do. Everybody thinks they're going to be a novelist or an inventor. And I thought, that is so Funny. Wow, that never changes. How is that not exactly like everybody's going to be an influencer or a rock star or whatever the hell.

[Joe Getty]

Or a blogger like 15 years ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. Every young person today thinks they're going to be a novelist or an inventor. No, you're not. Learn to plow.

[Joe Getty]

Get back to shoveling the rat carcasses. Don't worry about the fleas.

[Jack Armstrong]

One other interesting thing, and I didn't know this about London particularly, it was growing so fast at that particular time. But. But fast food. Practically everybody was eating fast food. Very few London homes had a kitchen or a stove. Everybody ate out and the streets were filled with people, you know, frying up this or that or making that. And you'd go down on the street with your family and buy, you know, a baked pie or something like that. Their fast food. Probably not quite like our fast food, but still everybody was eating out. It's stuff thrown together really hastily.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's funny. I was reading an old timey account, I think it was of London, and I was confused because they kept making reference to going to the bakers to get their meal or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Almost nobody cooked at home during that particular period.

[Joe Getty]

I had to look up what the hell they were talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Head spinning. To me, that's the opposite of what you assume about the old timey times.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I wonder, I wonder what was. What was a typical meal you would get. Did fly a fry up a chicken leg.

[Jack Armstrong]

They mentioned some sort of meat pie thingy.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah. Mystery, I'll bet. Yeah, yeah. Don't worry, it's mostly meat. And just eat up, you know, whatever or what it sounds to Squeak. Squeak. Speaking of rats, I mean there are plenty of cases of people being so hungry they ate rats in times of warfare or whatever. I'm telling you, some 1600s London street meat pie. God knows what's in there. It'd be quicker to list what's. No, it's. It could be anything.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'd be a good time machine. A bet. If we ever get time machines going, bet. Go back to 1603 London. See if you can eat that and eat the meat pie from the vendor.

[Joe Getty]

I thought you were gonna have some scientists do genetic testing of the meat quote unquote in there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just see who can stomach, first of all, the smell of the city alone. You probably couldn't eat at all. They would just hurl their poop bucket out into the street. Right. I'm sure everybody smelled horrible because it's not like, you know, showering and soap and all the sort of stuff we have today, and then you're in some random meat pie from the street. Ah. Hey, why you got a bucket of rat tails behind you?

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we got Mailbag next there Armstrong and Getty.

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Paxton vs. Cornyn in Texas today I'm usually not into these races, but I'm kind of interested in this one and we got some serious pushback about us saying bad things about Paxton. I guess the good old boys got to you too. Maybe we'll go.

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Sure they did. Oh yeah, maybe we'll go through the

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Sounds good to me. Here's your freedom loving Quote of the Day A good deal longer than usual, but I have made a command decision that there could be no better freedom loving quote of the day the day after Memorial day than this one. Abraham Lincoln November 18 Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that the nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this, but in a larger sense we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us, the living, rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us, that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause which they gave the last full measure of devotion that we here highly resolve that those dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that the government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. Obviously the Gettysburg Address, one of the greatest things ever written in the English language.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that's the entire thing. I like longer speeches. I think anything shorter than 90 minutes is just. Why did I even come?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, the chap who spoke before him went on for two and a half hours or something ludicrous like that. Then the President of the United States unleashed. I think it's 202 words or something like that. Yeah. And they happen to be perfect. Excuse the stumbles. That last paragraph is very long and we get to the end of one line. Try to get to the next one font that small. I'm an old guy. Mailbag. Drop us a Note [e-mail] let's see. This is from Mr. X Anonymous, who may or may not have an MD. The left claims unaffordable health care is unfair and unacceptable. Sorry, health care is not a right. Is a Rolls Royce or a Beverly Hills mansion, which are also unaffordable, also unfair and unacceptable. Life is not fair. Work hard and work better. Stupid should hurt. Starve the lazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was that Spencer Pratt there?

[Joe Getty]

It's an interesting question. The rich and middle class have always lived better and generally longer lives than the poor. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to eliminate that. But that's. That's always been the reality in humanity. It's a complicated question. Let's see. No offense to frequent contributor Paolo writes Steve, but it's thought that Republican politicians might join Democrats in impeaching Trump is ludicrous. Trump and his most sincere and active supporters would primary any Republican that took that path. And J.D. vance is smart enough and also not charismatic enough to go along with it follows the meme that says I'd like to see old Donnie wriggle his way out of this jam. Then Trump wriggles his way out. Ah well, nevertheless, his actions may look impeachable and may be impeachable, but I don't think they will be impeachable.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's from the conversation we had last week. Well, we will get to find out almost certainly. I think. I mean, cuz there will be an impeachment. The Democrats are going to take the House, they are going to impeach Trump and then we're going to see what the Senate does. I don't know if you got a bunch of senators who aren't up for a while, you know, six year terms, etc. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

That's pretty good.

[Joe Getty]

Reminding us of that. Bon moo.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is pretty good. Well, I got a lot more to come to catch you up on the news from the last three days. Hopefully you were, you know, enjoying your time off. So if you missed a second podcast Armstrong and Yeti on Demand Armstrong and Getty

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