Space Gonorrhea

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – “Space Gonorrhea”

Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand (iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

The episode swings between global absurdities and the surreal (the “war” over Greenland, space rescue mysteries), while anchoring itself in pressing domestic headlines (Minneapolis ICE-involved shooting, media narratives) and a deep dive into right-wing conspiracy culture, particularly Candace Owens and theories around Charlie Kirk. The hosts maintain their signature blend of sarcasm, skepticism, and conversational banter, ranging from gallows humor to pointed analysis of political and media landscapes.

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Major Discussion Topics & Segments

1. The “War” for Greenland: Realpolitik or Farce?

Timestamps: 00:34 – 03:37 / 10:19 – 12:02

• Setup: Joking about TV coverage showing chaos in Minneapolis and Tehran looking indistinguishable.
• Lars Løkke Rasmussen: Named as “General Manager” of the day (00:59), referencing Denmark’s Foreign Minister and his efforts to prevent a U.S. invasion of Greenland.
• Satirical Coverage:
  • “France is sending troops yesterday to Greenland to help defend.” (01:38)
  • “We literally have more buglers in our military than they have citizens.” (01:31)
• NATO Entanglement:
  • Hosts mock the convoluted scenario where the U.S. would be obligated by NATO to defend against itself.
  • “We have a treaty to defend Greenland.” (02:33–02:35)
• Underlying Critique:
  • “Trump needs to just gear the frig down... quit at making enemies of our friends. Good Lord.” – Joe Getty (03:25)
  • “Kind of worn out by all this.” – Jack Armstrong (03:37)
• Recurrence: Later, mock TV news voices ramp up the farcical coverage:

  “President Trump says anything short of full US Control of the world's largest island is, quote, unacceptable.” (10:28)

Notable Quote:

“Stop it. Act like the president, not a real estate mogul. Stop it.” – Joe Getty (11:02)

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2. Space Rescue Secrets & “Space Gonorrhea”

Timestamps: 03:39 – 05:32

• News of mysterious space station rescue mission:
  • “Do we have our first case of space gonorrhea?... They're not saying any more than that.” – Jack Armstrong (03:40)
• Speculation and Jokes:
  • “Why are they keeping it quiet? It's lonely out in space. Elton John told us that.” (03:57)
  • “Is it a HIPAA thing?” (04:34)
• Seriousness of the Event:
  • “...the first time they've ever had to rescue somebody because of a medical emergency.” (04:06)
  • Concern over possible inherent dangers of space travel.
• Segue: Excitement about upcoming moon mission, reflecting the hosts’ interest and awe at human spaceflight.

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3. Minneapolis ICE Shooting & Media Framing

Timestamps: 05:50 – 09:30 / 13:51 – 16:59

• Event Recap:
  • “Federal agent shoots immigrant in Minneapolis,” as reported by mainstream outlets—hosts criticize this framing.
  • Details: ICE officer attacked by Venezuelan gang member with a shovel, shot attacker in the leg after a chaotic melee.
  • “I would not want to be an ICE officer in Minneapolis right now.” – Jack Armstrong (06:33)
• Critique of Media Narratives:
  • “The assault on the officer is alleged, but the shooting is listed as a fact.” – Joe Getty (14:18)
  • “MSNBC take is, so DHS is saying the officer was attacked with a shovel, but we all know how they lied last week...” – Jack Armstrong (14:32)
• Societal Tension:
  • The hosts reflect on the escalation cycle between factions and how rare it is for such situations to end well.
  • “There seems to be that and nothing but that in the air right now. And it’s just bad.” – Joe Getty (07:47)

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4. Political Showdown: Trump, Cities, and Joe Rogan’s Influence

Timestamps: 08:20 – 09:30

• Trump’s Political Calculus:
  • “Trump sees chaos in cities as people always end up in a place of, we need more order, and he's gonna bring order.” – Jack Armstrong (08:34)
• Joe Rogan’s Critique Broadcast Widely:
  • “They had that on the ABC evening news last night. Joe Rogan now believing we're acting like the Gestapo...” (09:05)
• Media Amplification of Influencers:
  • Hosts note how Rogan’s ambiguous relationship to Trump is magnified because it makes for compelling anti-Trump headlines.

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5. Tech Absurdity – Tony Robbins Chatbot & Warnings Culture

Timestamps: 09:30 – 13:42

• AI Tony Robbins Chatbot:
  • “People are paying $99 a month to talk to a Tony Robbins chatbot. Wow.” – Joe Getty (09:52)
• Consumer Skepticism:
  • “Does the chatbot have big, white, perfect teeth?” – Jack Armstrong (10:02)
• Bureaucratic Warnings:
  • Riff on absurd warnings on a new space heater.
  • “It was the dawn of those warnings that was the first step down into the valley of impotency for America.” – Joe Getty (13:24)
  • Banter about dangers of plugging heaters into power strips and the modern safety regime.

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6. Quick Hit Headlines (with Katie Green)

Timestamps: 13:51 – 16:59

• National/international stories, both serious and quirky:
  • Iran reopens airspace (“...the oppression and the financing of terror groups will continue.” – Joe Getty (15:28))
  • Kamala Harris buying a seaside mansion after climate warnings (“It’s as if it was a lie all along just to scare people into donating and voting.” – Joe Getty (15:48))
  • Study: mixing Stevia and Rogaine boosts hair growth; office water coolers filthy; Chinese universities rise as US slips; Babylon Bee satire headline.

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7. Conspiratorial Fringe: Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Conspirituality

Timestamps: 17:29 – 31:11

• Candace Owens’ Time Traveler Theory:
  • Owens claims Charlie Kirk thought he was a time traveler, and suggests Kirk’s death was a plot involving agents, his wife, and Turning Point USA.
  • “Is that just something people are saying to their homies and text messages?” – Candace Owens (22:41)
  • “They panicked, they freaked out. And their solution was, no, no, just kill him. Just kill him. We can't have this.” – Candace Owens (25:20)
• Hosts’ Reaction:
  • “Turning Point and Erica Kirk, they're agents of the time traveling cabal who are keeping an eye on Charlie, Their fellow time traveler, Terminator.” – Joe Getty (24:23)
  • Reflection on conspiracy media ecosystem:
    • Is Owens delusional (“late onset schizophrenia”) or does she cynically manipulate a gullible audience?
    • The psychology of conspiracy belief: craving simple answers, “secret knowledge” (27:39).
    • Comparison to Gnosticism, QAnon, and the business model of conspiratorial content.
  • Notable Quote:

    “The fact that my prediction didn't come true is proof of how true it was.” – Joe Getty (27:52)

  • Joe draws a line between real-world chaos and the comfort offered by conspiracy explainers.
    • “If that drives you nuts, I guess that drives you into the arms of people who have an answer...Like a simple explanation for why everything's happening.” – Jack Armstrong (30:00)

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8. Listener Mail & Cultural Observations

Timestamps: 31:41 – End

• Feedback:
  • Some listeners view Candace Owens content as entertainment parallel to “Bigfoot podcasts,” while others accuse the show/hosts of bias (“apologists for the Jews”).
• Quote of the Day:
  • Napoleon Bonaparte: “If you wish to be a success in the world, promise everything. Deliver nothing.” (32:03)
• Light banter on language, gender debates in the Supreme Court, and annoying linguistic redundancies (ATM machines, “cheese quesadilla”).
• Meta-Reflection: The show itself as a place for sorting through chaos with humor and cynicism.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Global Affairs:

  “We literally have more buglers in our military than they have citizens.” – Jack Armstrong (01:31)

• On the Space Rescue:

  “Do we have our first case of space gonorrhea?... They're not saying any more than that.” – Jack Armstrong (03:40)
  “It’s lonely out in space. Elton John told us that.” – Jack Armstrong (03:57)

• On Conspiratorial Culture:

  “The fact that my prediction didn’t come true is proof of how true it was.” – Joe Getty (27:52)
  "Is Candace Owens actually losing her mind... or is she just good at stringing these people along and manipulating them and taking their money..." – Joe Getty (26:04, paraphrased)

• On Contemporary Chaos:

  “The world is crazier now than it has been probably since the end of World War II in terms of what's about to happen and alliances and this and that.” – Jack Armstrong (30:00)

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Tone & Style

• Language and Tone: Sarcastic, irreverent, often darkly comic, but with genuine concern about current events and the state of public discourse.
• Relationship Dynamics: On-air chemistry features ribbing, exasperation, and shared bemusement.

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Key Takeaways

• Global events are increasingly absurd and surreal—even the threat of war in the Arctic becomes fodder for gallows humor and skepticism.
• Media narratives are scrutinized for bias and manipulation, especially regarding domestic law enforcement stories.
• Conspiratorial thinking, as embodied by influencers like Candace Owens, is dissected for both its entertainment value and its psychological comfort to some in a time of chaos.
• Amidst the darkness, the show hosts make space for everyday gripes—AI chatbots, consumer warnings, and office annoyances—offering listeners a familiar, if jaded, perspective.

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For listeners and non-listeners alike, “Space Gonorrhea” is a brisk, wide-ranging episode that skewers a bewildering present, mixing potent social commentary with comedic asides and a sharp eye for both the ridiculous and the dangerous in contemporary culture and politics.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio.

[Joe Getty]

At the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here. Armstrong, get ready.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm looking up at the bank of televisions and I got two screens with people in the streets and smoke and chaos and I didn't know what they were. And then you read underneath. One of them's Minneapolis, one of them is Tehran. Couldn't really tell them apart.

[Joe Getty]

Live from Studio C Senior, a dimly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty communications compound. And hey, everybody.

[Joe Getty]

Little Friday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Today we're under the tutelage of our.

[Joe Getty]

General manager, Lars Loki Rasmussen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that a person or a place or a thing?

[Joe Getty]

Well, you'll have to guess. And if you guess correctly, you could win a new car. He's the Danish Foreign Minister. He's been making the rounds in Washington, talking to J.D. vance and little Marco, trying to not get invaded by our. Our obsessed President.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trying to prepare to go to war with the United States of America as a tiny country. To defend Greenland.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we literally have more buglers in our military than they have citizens.

[Jack Armstrong]

France sent some troops yesterday to Greenland to help defend. To Greenland? Yeah, to help defend.

[Joe Getty]

Can we just stop?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's where we are now. France is sending troops in case there's an invasion by the U.S. wow. We talked about this in the kitchen of my house last night, trying to go through the whole thing. And I kept saying, well, it's not gonna happen. I mean, we're not going to evade. But remember we had the clip from Stephen Miller, one of Trump's big advisors, last week, and when. Which he was basically saying, well, yeah, we just, we just land people and take Greenland. It's not like NATO's gonna fight us, which I think is true. I don't think Danish troops and French troops would actually fire on U.S. marines.

[Joe Getty]

Well, no, the part I get hung up on is if we invade Greenland, we're obligated to fight us by one of our most sacred relationships, NATO.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have a treaty to defend Greenland.

[Joe Getty]

So we would have to. Well, Denmark. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, Denmark. Denmark's part of NATO. Okay, gotcha. Yeah. Right.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I know how that works. Well, that's. I guess that's why it would be kind of rough on NATO.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's not going to happen, by the way. But the whole, the. Any sort of physical violence over Greenland.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, but is that going to be because they don't fight back when we land the Marine Corps on The beaches.

[Joe Getty]

You know what or.

[Jack Armstrong]

But we're not going to land the Marine Corps on the beaches there. France is sending troops. Denmark has already sent.

[Joe Getty]

I know, I know. I was going to say this has a weird. It's like World War I. The lead up to World War I plus Wag the dog plus I don't know, Abbott and Costello comedy or something. Marx Bro movie. Stop acting like it might happen. Or it might happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

This whole thing is obscene. Trump needs to just gear the frig down. Stop it. Yeah, we got plenty of enemies. Quit at making enemies of our friends. Good Lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kind of a worn out by all this.

[Joe Getty]

A word out.

[Jack Armstrong]

The story that's happening right now, they're keeping it kind of secret. Do we have our first case of space gonorrhea? That's what I'm wondering as there was a mission up to space station to rescue somebody with a medical problem and they're not saying any more than that.

[Joe Getty]

And you're assuming it is for some reason the class.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why are they keeping it quiet? It's lonely out in space. Elton John told us that.

[Joe Getty]

That's true. Founder of NASA Elton John.

[Jack Armstrong]

But they're keeping it quiet is it's the first time we've ever had to rescue somebody because of a medical emergency and they're not.

[Joe Getty]

John the first man to orbit. There's a punchline there but I'm not sure what it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Uranus.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't want it to sound help. For God's sake.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh God sake.

[Joe Getty]

You know what?

[Jack Armstrong]

You know what?

[Joe Getty]

Go ahead and invade Greenland. Nothing is sacred anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

I suppose they wouldn't tell us no matter what was.

[Joe Getty]

I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think it's gonorrhea but I suppose it's a HIPAA thing. So an astronaut.

[Joe Getty]

Well yeah. And it's nobody's damn business thing as well. Although I can certainly see people having a legitimate interest. Oh my gosh. One of our astronauts is sick. So sick they have to bring them has a medical problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are they sick? Yeah. I think the interest would be is there something about being up in space that is inherently causes something or other.

[Joe Getty]

That would be a good thing to say. We do not believe it is in any way connected to blah blah blah the mission. But you know it could be a heart arrhythmia for goodness sakes or anything like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

So. Oh yeah. Gazillion things could happen but it's the first time they've ever done that and they went up there and grabbed this person and brought them back and are getting the medical care. And then like in a week we're launching a mission. First time astronauts are going to be orbiting the moon or anywhere near the moon in a half a century and going up to the moon, going around, taking some pictures and coming back. And that's happening real soon, which will be very exciting.

[Joe Getty]

Pulling up the Chinese flag and throwing it in the trash. Yeah. Are the rest of the astronauts like, you know, you went to Disney and your sister got sick and was puking so you had to end the whole thing. Right. Family had to go home early. I mean, they know they can't blame the person, but they're, you know, they're a little bit annoyed.

[Jack Armstrong]

So speaking annoyed, some people are annoyed by the headline that a lot of mainstream media like the New York Times went with last night. Federal agent shoots immigrant in Minneapolis. As opposed to a more specific headline. Getting into more of the details that could say something along the lines of ICE officer attacked with a shovel defends himself.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Criminal illegal alien attacks ICE officer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So we can get into that story in a little more detail.

[Joe Getty]

You attack a cop, what do you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Think is going to happen?

[Joe Getty]

You're going to shake hands when it's over and say you bested me Part as friends?

[Jack Armstrong]

I was mostly thinking about I would not want to be an ICE officer in Minneapolis right now. No matter what you think about this, you're in ICE doing law enforcement. That's your career path is that's where you are now. You've been given this task and all of the politics around it and people attacking you. I was watching some of the videos last night from earlier. The shooting happened around 6 Minneapolis time. But I mean there are people, you know, doing that whole one finger and a finger an inch away from your face thing screaming at you, kill yourself.

[Joe Getty]

Kill yourself.

[Jack Armstrong]

So these ICE officers and then one tries to do a traffic stop to get a. An illegal Venezuelan, Venezuelan gang member. It turns out to be this guy runs in his car, crashes it, takes off. Officer goes after him, tries to tackle him. Some other people come out of a house and come over. Somehow a snow shovel arrives, who knows how in the chaos and they start beating the officers. There's three guys beating in the officer. He's fears for his life, turns around, shoots the original dude in the leg. Yeah, that ends the melee. But God, can you imagine being in that situation? Holy crap. I'm glad when I go to work every day I don't have that staring me in the face.

[Joe Getty]

I think we've all experienced either personally or watched the angry child. Like, I'm ratcheting up. Yeah, if you ratchet up, I'll ratchet up. That's fine. I'll ratchet up more. I'll ratchet up more and back and forth and explain to me a time or two that's ended well, where everybody says, yep, we. We did the right thing. Or is that virtually always looked upon as foolish, unwise. That means the same thing. Stupid, redundant. I just. There seems to be that and nothing but that in the air right now. And it's just bad.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's true. But both sides, I'm sure, believe the politics will end up on their side. The majority of.

[Joe Getty]

Do you think they're being even that cerebral about it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I think Trump sees chaos in cities as people always end up in a place of, we need more order, and he's gonna bring order. And then the anti Trump crowd, you know, that's what the mayor keeps saying. Don't take the bait. So he presents it as a, they're putting you in a decision dilemma. Trump's trying to put you in a decision dilemma.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And don't take the bait because they're Gestapo. Right. Fascists and the rest.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and so Joe Rogan said something to that effect, apparently, the other day. The big time podcaster that everybody's heard of. And because he did. Wow. I, I heard that like five times yesterday on different major news. They had that on the ABC evening news last night. Joe Rogan now believing we're acting like the Gestapo because they believe so many people care about what Joe Rogan thinks, that him, him having that opinion was worth putting on the evening news. I thought that was interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it's another example of a guy who's quasi Trumpy. He's not consistently Trumpy. Joe's pretty independent as we are, but the fact that he is saying something that sounds critical. Trump immediately gets vaulted to the top liberal news in a way we've described many times. Here's my favorite headline of the day. People are paying $99 a month to talk to a Tony Robbins chatbot. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

99 bucks a month.

[Joe Getty]

A month sounds a little stiff to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. I'd say, the other hand, maybe it.

[Joe Getty]

Keeps me motivated and thinking positively.

[Jack Armstrong]

Does the chatbot have big, white, perfect teeth?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, of course it does. You know, maybe you turn your life around, you turn your career around, you start a new chapter in life. That's worth 99 bucks a month.

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely.

[Joe Getty]

A little skeptical.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Get Space Gunnery. And not a bad band name either, I don't think.

[Joe Getty]

Not a good one.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. On this Thursday, it is January 15th, the year 2026, where Armstrong and getting we approve this program.

[Joe Getty]

Who beware of the ides of January. Here we go. Officially, according to FCC rules and regs, the show starts at Mark. Good to be with you. I'm Tony Coppola in Chicago. The breaking news right now, the battle for Greenland. President Trump says anything short of full US Control of the world's largest island is, quote, unacceptable. If we don't go in, Russia is going to go in and China is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Going to go in.

[Joe Getty]

What' at stake for US Security tonight? Weijiang standing by at the White House. There you go. No, they're not. That's, there's, they're part of NATO. Russia and China are not going in.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a pretty exciting story there.

[Joe Getty]

It will not happen. Stop it. Act like the president, not a real estate mogul. Stop it.

[Jack Armstrong]

France sending troops to Greenland in case the US Marines land.

[Joe Getty]

France ought to take a look at France falling apart.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you're right, there is some sort of weird. Okay, I guess we're going through the motions on this thing. Like it's real. At some point something does something happen.

[Joe Getty]

That's why I know there's an old timey movie and, and the premise of this is or of that is similar.

[Jack Armstrong]

To what's going on.

[Joe Getty]

The mouse that roared, I can't remember, but it's like everybody just nobody wants war. Nobody thinks there's going to be war, but everybody thinks, well, we move troops, we got to move troops and blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or speaking of rodents, is it, is it more along the lines of give a mouse a cookie, say you're gonna invade Greenland and another NATO country is going to send troops, another nitro country sends troops and you're gonna have to send troops. And then it just keeps going like that.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Anyway, we got more on that coming up later. We got Katie's headlines. Lots of jazzy stuff today. As always, Tony Robbins chat bots. I mean, where does that end? All on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

We could do an entire hour on the warnings that come with this new space heater. I just bought that. I'm plugging in, I'm sure in the modern world because you know, you gotta have a warning for everything so you don't get sued with. One of the biggest warnings on it is I took the space Heater out because it's always so freaking cold in here and I can't take it any longer. First of all, they're. They're for offices.

[Joe Getty]

That.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what Amazon is full of. People are cold at the office and they get space heaters for around their little cubicle. There's lots of them. But anyway, could cause heat arrhythmia or something like that. So something that makes you hot could cause the problems that come with being too hot. Doesn't surprise me. Doesn't really surprise God.

[Joe Getty]

They warned me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, no kidding.

[Joe Getty]

Otherwise I just sit there getting hotter and hotter until I passed out and died. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it'd be the fault.

[Joe Getty]

Why am I so hot? I can't think of anything and be.

[Jack Armstrong]

The fault of this company that made this thing.

[Katie Green]

You're also not supposed to plug them into power strips.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why?

[Katie Green]

Just to go straight into a wall.

[Joe Getty]

Why is that fine?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Katie Green]

I just remember a bunch of people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Telling me that when I got a.

[Joe Getty]

Space in case your power strip is weak or cheap Chinese crap or whatever, it might overheat.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You know, Jack, you've said it before, and I would agree, then we need to move on. But it was the dawn of those warnings that was the first step down into the valley of impotency for America.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that's just the valley of impotency.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I vacationed there once. It wasn't as much fun as I expected it to be. Judy. Judy was disappointed. Anyway, let's move on. Who's reporting what? It's the League story with Katie Green. Katie?

[Katie Green]

All right, we're back to Minneapolis on the Alphabet Network. So here's the top three from NBC. Federal officer shoots man in the leg in Minneapolis after alleged attack during STOP cnn. Tensions flare in Minneapolis after agent shoots and injures a man who allegedly assaulted him. And ABC Minneapolis ICE shooting Trump threatens to invoke Insurrection act.

[Jack Armstrong]

At least they don't live in the valley of impotency.

[Joe Getty]

You know what's interesting is the assault on the officer is alleged, but the shooting is listed as a fact.

[Candace Owens]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

I understand from the. From the perspective of the criminal justice system, that's more or less true. But from the point of view of the press, why, I can tell you.

[Jack Armstrong]

The MSNBC take is, so DHS is saying the officer was attacked with a shovel, but we all know how they lied last week when that woman was killed. They told us that the officer was hit by the car. And then we all saw the video and found out that that was a lie.

[Joe Getty]

What you're saying after a week of.

[Jack Armstrong]

New videos coming out that it was an obvious lie that the guy was hit? Including the reports that came out cbs. I saw CBS reporting that that officer has internal injuries from when the car hit her hit him. So that's still being presented as a lie that she hit him with the car.

[Katie Green]

All right, Washington Post. Iran reopens airspace after Trump says protest crackdown has eased.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, apparently the countries in the region feel like this is over. We're on the. We're on the calm down side of this. I'm not exactly sure why.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, and the oppression and the financing of terror groups will continue.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I've got the. The New York Times take on this.

[Joe Getty]

Is a little different. We'll get to that later.

[Katie Green]

From the Free Beacon. Kamala Harris buys $8.2 million seaside mansion after warning quote sea levels are rising due to climate crisis.

[Joe Getty]

It's as if it was a lie along just a scare people into donating and voting.

[Katie Green]

Okay, from the New York Post. Study shows mixing stevia sweetener with Rogaine can boost your hair growth.

[Jack Armstrong]

A sweetener?

[Katie Green]

Apparently if you mix it with Rogaine, you're okay.

[Joe Getty]

So it's literally mixing it. Like rub the stevia on your head with the Rogaine in with the Rogaine. Yeah. I'll be damned.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, well, lookout world. I'm gonna give that a whirl this weekend.

[Joe Getty]

Jack is back.

[Jack Armstrong]

Look out, Bumble.

[Katie Green]

Study finds your office water cooler might be dirtier than you think.

[Joe Getty]

Whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you know what I think? Blah, blah, blah fecal matter. Blah, blah, blah germs.

[Katie Green]

From the New York Times. Chinese universities surge in global rankings as US schools continue to slip.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, probably because ours suck and they don't teach and they're soft and woke and. Yeah, that's probably why. And finally, the Chinese universities are not soft and woke.

[Katie Green]

And finally The Babylon Bee 5 year old brought in to explain difference between boys and girls to Supreme Court.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy, we got that audio. So, Josh, Holly. Holly, who's a quite the showman and very brilliant guy, had one of those peoples in the crosshairs yesterday asking them, can men get pregnant? Putting them in so delicious in an uncomfortable position. We should play some of that. It's pretty entertaining. Lots of good stuff on the way. Hope you can stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Two things before we get to Candace Owens theory that Charlie Kirk was a time traveler. Yes?

[Joe Getty]

Pardon me? Yes, you heard me. I'm sorry, what? Check my headphones. Are they plugged in?

[Jack Armstrong]

Two things quickly. First of all, I got this new space heater because I'm tired of being cold and it's making me so tired. I mean, it's so warm and comfortable, and I just want to lay down on the floor next to it and go to sleep. It's just so. Reminds me when I was a little kid, I used to sleep by the dryer when the dryer was running. Just so nice and warm over there. So I'm.

[Joe Getty]

You slept against the dryer?

[Jack Armstrong]

Like, what? Yeah. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

This is out of J.D. vance Hillbilly Elegy or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it's cold like a cat. And it's just so nice and warm. And I'm feeling. I'm feeling it right now with this space heater down by my legs.

[Joe Getty]

Just.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just want to lay down next to it. Hanson says he can bring a recliner in for you if you want. Okay. So this might not work because it makes me too tired. Now. Something more serious before we get to. Is Charlie Kirk a time traveler? So Katie mentioned the Iran story, and there's a lot of talk of the ratcheting down and the crisis is over. The crisis is if you live in Iran, you still have a horrific, violent theocracy that runs your life and will shoot you in the street if you protest. That hasn't changed. But the United States going to war with Iran thing is being portrayed as ratcheted down. The New York Times, though, points out, and this is true, Mr. Trump's remarks could be interpreted as taking a step back from any imminent plans for attack. But in June, right before the US Military conducted airstrikes on three nuclear sites in Iran, Trump issued a statement that said he would make a decision within two weeks. In reality, he had made up his mind and the strike came earlier. So you don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. I just came across a similar bit of thinking that said, wow, he said this, then he said that, and our allies and people in the region have no idea what he's going to do and how that's discomforting. But at the same time, it's a strategic asset. Ask Sung Tzu, who's quoted so much.

[Jack Armstrong]

So here we go. We've had this conversation now for several weeks. We really got into it with the whole Nick Fuentes thing, the Hitler dude, the Nazi dude, of trying to figure out, should we be talking about this at all? I mean, is this a segment of the right that deserves discussion because they have so many millions of followers? Or are those ratings, followers on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, vastly exaggerated for for all kinds of different reasons of bots and it's the same people on every platform and whatever. And I don't have any idea what, what do you think like is Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes have mind share with half the country, A tenth of the country? I don't have any idea.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it's, it's much, much closer to a tenth, maybe 100th 1 1%. And, and then the question is their Echolites, their big fans, do they have any actual effect on the world? Are they just keyboard warriors who make a lot of noise online but will never have?

[Jack Armstrong]

Are they a voting bloc that you need to play to is what I wonder, in addition to the, the nuttiness?

[Joe Getty]

Well, and the hard part is that there, there's like your, your Candace Owens who is a complete wackadoo as you're about to hear, or a very clever, calculated person to praise on the mentally ill and the weak minded. But then you have like shows that are adjacent to that or thinkers that are adjacent to that, then thinkers that are adjacent to that. And that's where I think you get to J.D. vance and the Trump White House. So I don't know, does that influence kind of seep over into the more sane parts of our politics?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I feel like, I feel like we almost need to set up who Candace Owens is every time we talk about her or any of these people because most of you don't know who she is. That's what I feel, but maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. She started out, we did an event with her, but she started out as a young black woman who, who her. Her message was basically don't, don't let people tell you that you can't achieve as a black woman in America. You can. And that's a, that's a lie that they're trying to keep going and it's just not true. And it was a great message and.

[Joe Getty]

Good solid conservative traditional values, patriotism.

[Jack Armstrong]

She got some traction or something and then decided to go into the kind of conspiracy world. And she's got all kinds of conspiracy and it's always the Jews, the Jew are doing this and the Jews are doing that. But she and Charlie Kirk were friends. Charlie Kirk gets assassinated, then she starts going down this road of Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's wife, was in on it with Israel to have her husband killed because she wanted to run the Turning Point organization and get the money and all these different sorts of things. She even put out texts between her and Charlie Kirk back when he was dating before he got married that have no. Have no relevance other than, like, just making it uncomfortable for his wife. Because who wants to see texts from your spouse about their dating life from back in the day?

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's just. Yeah. Despicable behavior. Now I haven't even heard this time machine stuff. Let's give it a roll.

[Candace Owens]

Why did Charlie think he was a time traveler? He said, as I showed you in earlier messages, that he was a time traveler and he had to find me. Is that just something people are saying to their homies and text messages? And again, not anything that I would have placed so much emphasis on back when he was saying it. But it came to fruition. The other parts. He did die young. Why did he think that him dying young was necessary in order to change things? He did die young. It is related Turning Point USA in some way or another. At the very least, we could all agree it's related to him speaking at a campus event for Turning Point usa. I'm totally occupied by this. I tell you. I read these messages and I'm going, what is this? What is reality? Actually, here.

[Joe Getty]

Here's where she brings it home. Michael, roll on.

[Candace Owens]

Charlie died. Yes. Like I said, it was related to this organization. And I think we. We would all agree that his death and the manner that they did it changed the world in ways that I don't think we. We can fully realize. Or I. Certainly not in a way that I can articulate. You just cannot pretend that all of this is one big unhappy coincidence. It's entirely plausible, I think. Plausible that they knew something about Charlie and that's why they had him marked and had him monitored and had him likely followed since he was young. And maybe they thought a. The agents think that if they swarmed him and they stayed with him and they pretend to be his friend, that ultimately they could control Charlie and perhaps change an outcome. They could literally change an outcome related to Charlie.

[Joe Getty]

There it is. So Turning Point and Erica Kirk, they're agents of the time traveling cabal who are keeping an eye on Charlie, Their fellow time traveler, Terminator.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like I bought I could never do this because I just. I don't. I don't have that skill set to ignore logical chains of thought or whatever. But the. The conspiracy people, they do that. When I listen to them, it's always like, I think I know what they're saying, then they say something else. Okay, it's this and then it's this, and. And so it's always just kind of a mishmash of things. That I guess reaches some people and has meaning with me. It always just leaves me like, you didn't say anything. What are you talking about?

[Joe Getty]

Here's, here's my favorite part though. One more little clip.

[Candace Owens]

So when for the first time in his life, because I do believe he was managed, I mean, I've already said I was handled. I didn't recognize that I had agents. And for the first time in his life, Charlie peeks his head up and starts to push back in a meaningful way. It couldn't stop him from becoming bigger. That seemed to be inevitable. But they panicked. They seem to have panicked, right? I mean, this is just starting to happen within a year when Charlie's going like, hey man, I don't actually think this, I don't actually believe this. And then he goes, you know what? Take the money, take the money out of the organization. And they panicked, they freaked out. And their solution was, no, no, just kill him. Just kill him. We can't have this.

[Joe Getty]

The time traveling cabal. They freaked out, said, we got to kill Charlie Kirk. Okay, that's it then. It's solved. Finally. Woo. Yeah. So my question is, has she actually lost her mind? Which, you know, late onset schizophrenia is not unknown. Or as bright as she is, has she figured out, I mean, because like I was trying to find it and I couldn't. But the Free Press recently had a fabulous article about conspirituality. And there was another piece that we discussed about how it reminds you of Gnosticism, the early centuries, post Christ Christian, quasi Christian thing where there's a secret knowledge about evildoers and to uncover that is enlightenment and blah blah, blah. It's an, an like need for some human beings to be in on the top secret secret and to figure out the conspiracy. And I think Candace is bright enough that like the scientists who study this and the people who wrote for the Free Press, she's figured out the psychology of it, and Tucker's kind of into this too, that they figured out more or less the way somebody is really good at accounting, for instance, has figured out, all right, how do I string these people along and manipulate them and take their money because they're either traumatized or weak minded or whatever. And she's just developed that skill set and decided that's where the money is. I suspect that's the case.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would think it would have an endpoint to it, but maybe not. Yeah, I think she just saw an opening. Maybe when Alex Jones got hit hard with those lawsuits, you thought maybe he was going to Go away and I'll take that audience or something. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think the only endpoint to it is competition. You know, in the early days of the QAnon thing, when one of our listeners said, dudes, this is serious, it's real. Check this out. And I did. And I thought, all right, let's follow it. And I could recognize the pattern of when things don't happen, then you rationalize why the things that were predicted don't happen. You rationalize why they did because the evildoers actually knew this and blah, blah, blah. And the fact that my prediction didn't come true is proof of how true it was. And once you get that formula down, once you get that, it's like being a songwriter. I think somebody like Candace is just really good at stringing people along. So he's part of a time traveling cabal, and he threatened to take their money away, so they panicked and killed him. Okay, that's funny. I just thought it was a up with queers, transgender boyfriend, disaffected online youth who developed a hatred for Charlie Kirk and had a miserable life and decided to go out in a blaze of glory in a performative suicide. But I was wrong. It was the time travel thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm more interested, actually.

[Joe Getty]

That's right. He didn't actually commit suicide in this case, which is fairly rare.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry. I think it's more interesting, the audience than the, the, the people that are putting on the show, the Candace Owens and the Alex Jones people, because why is there an audience for that? That stuff is that we've talked about so much, the, the need for answers or whatever, or it makes you feel like you're on the inside, if you got. Or something.

[Joe Getty]

Whatever. The appeal is, there's absolutely. Because the world is a big, confusing, scary place. And the idea that it's just a little chaotic and kind of random and difficult to understand is very, very threatening to some people. And they need a simple understanding of the evildoers and the good people. And that's what animates the world. The, you know, the, the chaos of our government isn't chaos. It's that you got the child molestation evildoers and then the good people who may or may not be represented by Donald Trump, is a very, very simple worldview, and that appeals to some people.

[Jack Armstrong]

So when the world gets scary and confusing, which it's scarier and more confusing now than it has been in a very long time. I was talking to my son about this last night. We're. I Mean, the lead stories last night were Greenland and Iran and, and I said to my son, the world is crazier now than it has been probably since the end of World War II in terms of what's about to happen and alliances and this and that. But if, if, if that drives you nuts, I guess that drives you into the arms of people who have an answer for it all. Like a simple explanation for why everything's happening. Yeah. As opposed to if you're dealing with it as a. Who freaking knows what the world's gonna look like in five years? Does China move?

[Joe Getty]

Does this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever it happens, you know, which is frightening. But I don't. I'm not looking to Candace or whoever for some time ties it all together. It's the time traveling Jews thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I just think it's. If you have that sort of brain, you just see the world very, very differently.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Interesting. We'll get into some email on the way. We are going to play probably an hour to the Trying to nail down one of your trans activists in Congress yesterday on whether or not men can have babies. Men can get pregnant.

[Joe Getty]

It's kind of funny. I, I thought that was known. Stay tuned for all that Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fair number of texts in response to playing that Candace Owens stuff about Charlie Kirk being a time traveler. Maybe we'll have to get to those. It's kind of interesting, the various opinions out there. Like, I listen to Candace Owens for the same reason I listened to Bigfoot podcasts. But also there were some people who believe we're just apologists for the Jews. We're on the table. Caught us.

[Joe Getty]

Damn it. Busted. Here's your freedom hating quote of the day. Continuing that series from dictators and megalomaniacs to help illustrate how they think in contrast to lovers of liberty. This is from Napoleon Bonaparte, who I think has been taken seriously by politicians. If you wish to be a success in the world, promise everything. Deliver nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Yep, he figured it out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fascinating dude. Napoleon.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And human nature never changes. Mailbag. You can correspond via text or email [e-mail] on the question of the Supreme Court and the gender bending madness in sports oral arguments which we featured yesterday. Rick writes for the women that testified yesterday to not knowing the difference. Oh, this was actually about in Congress, which we'll play in a minute. Not knowing the difference between who can get pregnant and who can't. I have the perfect tool to provide a learning moment. It's funny, he didn't say what tool could provide that learning moment. He hints that he has a tool that could illustrate who can get pregnant and who can't. But he won't say what tool it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it's whether you have a tool twixt your legs.

[Joe Getty]

Aaron writes, stop using the cult's language. Oh, my God in heaven. Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh. You mean to tell me the two most critical conservatives in the country are using the cult left language? How did we get here? How are our judges? Also morons. What the actual f. You morons. You SCOTUS effing morons.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're screwed.

[Joe Getty]

There's no escape. All is lost. We deserve this tribulation. Full send. He doesn't want them using terms like CIS boys and CIS girls. It's the language of the radical left. And he's right, by the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Latest breakdown of who has spoken the fewest and the most words so far this Supreme Court session, which is always interesting.

[Joe Getty]

I'll tell you this. Hilarious.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's a hint. The ladies yap, yap, yap.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy. Never noticed. Let's see. John with no H rights. Joe, you kept looking for similes for the redundant biological male or female because that's the only kind of male or female there is. It's an entirely biological question. He said the term is cheese quesadilla. It's always driven me crazy. Queso is cheese. That's the root of quesadilla. It's like ordering a cheese cheese. A dilla or a cheese grilled cheese sandwich. Petty and pedantic in Portlandia. John. John, we could. We could bond, my friend. That's fantastic. Oh, that is beautiful.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sort of like the whole ATM machine. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Joe P. Writes. Hey, gang, Seems to me that the entire controversy read boys playing girls sports can be settled by looking at the number of girls playing boy sports. And why aren't they playing boy sports? Does getting squashed come to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well said.

[Joe Getty]

For some reason, Dr. Brian wrote this. Even a never Trumper is right twice a day like a stopped clock. Okay, let's see. Moving along. Oh, Skipper McHale writes, Joe, I replayed the podcast segment where you presented your secret potato chip teaser, and I verify how unhinged the snail mail letter writer was. And I have to admit, I've changed my mind. You came off like a Russian oligarch who does not care that his yacht ran over a poor, helpless Social Security pensioner who just wanted a good recommendation on a restaurant. I hope you can earn your way back into the good graces of the ang masses. It was Joe's let them eat cake moment. I'm deeply, deeply ashamed. You know, this is a great note and I don't want to rush through it. We'll get to it a little bit later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I like it when we got too much six pounds of show in a five pound bag. That's good. That's good. Whittle it down to the very best stuff, of which we have plenty in hour two. If you miss a segment or an hour, get our pod yet. This cast podcast is the word you should subscribe to. Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

[Joe Getty]

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[Candace Owens]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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