Splatty McPlummet

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Splatty McPlummet"

Date: January 26, 2026

Host: iHeartPodcasts (Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty titled "Splatty McPlummet" centers on:

• Rising lawlessness and crime in California (including an elaborate jewel heist and issues in the legal cannabis trade)
• The viral daredevil climb of a skyscraper by Alex Honnold, sparking debate about risk, thrill-seeking, and media responsibility
• Current U.S. immigration enforcement tensions, protest dynamics, and media narratives in the wake of the Minneapolis shooting
• European economic and regulatory stagnation, including notable commentary from German leadership
• NFL playoff recap, the culture of ownership in sports, and officiating controversies
• The science and joy of napping

True to Armstrong & Getty form, the episode weaves in sharp commentary, personal anecdotes, and irreverent humor while addressing trending headlines and deeper cultural themes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Crime and Lawlessness in California

(02:45 - 07:05) Jewel Heist & Legal Weed Woes

• Coverage of a violent jewel heist in Anaheim Hills: car smash-in, crashes during getaway, and seven arrests
• Introduction to lawlessness trends in California, shifting focus to the cannabis trade
• Story from WaPo: Derek, legal weed grower in Santa Cruz, repeatedly robbed, hires PI, arms himself, shootout ensues, and he is arrested
  • Critique of law enforcement’s role and regulatory chaos:
    • "He shared the details with law enforcement, who advised him to educate himself on the Second Amendment." — Jack (04:23)
    • "A month later, the same gang shot and killed a cop in Oakland...but thank God Derek was taken off the streets." — Jack (05:07, sarcastic)

Insights:

• Policing is hamstrung: legal businesses face the same dangers as illicit ones, but often with less support
• Enforcement resources and focus have created perverse business incentives, and the illicit market is winning
• Parallel drawn between cannabis enforcement and the historical effort to catch bootleg moonshiners (06:54)

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2. Daredevils, Risk, and Human Nature

(07:05 - 13:34) Alex Honnold’s Skyscraper Climb

• Discussion of renowned climber Alex Honnold's ascent of a 1,667 ft building in Taipei, done "free solo" (no ropes, no restraints)
  • The feat made national headlines and prompted visceral responses
• Hosts viscerally react:
  • "When he gets to the top and then he has to pull himself up over the last bar...just hanging there...that makes my palms sweat." — Joe (07:22)
  • "I have found the last thing on earth I will ever do." — Jack (07:47)
• Media ethics and “splat” debate: Should footage of a potential fall be broadcast?
  • "If my son decides...to climb the world’s tallest buildings freeform...I hope it works out for you." — Jack (10:47)
  • "They'd have to cut...because well, you ever seen anybody drop an egg on a kitchen floor? It's not pleasant." — Jack (09:39)
  • "Why did you show that?...Normal people don’t want to see that." — Jack (09:58)
• BASE jumping, motorcycles, and thrill/risk discussion:
  • "I guess we all have different levels of risk and liking thrill...I'm a motorcycle rider...It's similar." — Joe (12:23)
  • "I can barely get on a step stool before I get dizzy." — Jack (13:18)

Insights:

• Human tolerance for risk is deeply individual
• Most people's barriers to extreme stunts are physical fear ("It's gravity, not the law" — 08:47)
• Media has a “humane” obligation not to broadcast graphic deaths
• Parallels drawn to BASE jumpers, NASCAR drivers, thrill-seekers vs. the rest of us

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3. The Science & Joy of Napping

(13:33 - 15:34; 18:40 - 19:09; 44:42 - 44:53)

• Discussion of a widely-shared study showing that short naps (“20 to 40 minutes”) are good for synaptic brain recovery and cognition
  • "Not only is it the most delicious feeling ever...but it’s actually good for me." — Jack (13:37)
  • "The synaptic connections in the brain were able to recover and were better prepared to take in new content after a little nap." — Jack (14:13)
  • Consensus that too-long naps lead to “sleep inertia” (grogginess)
  • "I’ve never once in my life laid down to take a nap and not been able to get to sleep." — Joe (18:54)
  • Final Thought: "Naps are good for the brain...I’m not lazy. I’m taking care of myself." — Michael (44:42)

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4. Europe’s Regulatory Malaise & Conservative “Fail Fast” Mindset

(19:09 - 22:30)

• Soundbite from Friedrich Merz, German CDU leader, at Davos
  • "By dragging feet on reforms and unnecessarily and excessively curtailing entrepreneurial freedoms and personal responsibility. We are going to change that now...Instead we have become world champion of over-regulation. That has to end." (19:36 - 20:33)
• Armstrong & Getty endorse “fail fast” American ethos over “safety first” European regulatory culture
  • "Let’s fail fast and learn from it and go from there...I would hate, hate, hate for us to become a Euro style ‘safety first’ ... and then you end up like Europe." — Jack (20:44)
• Trump’s rough style, but the panel notes he forced Europe to wake up to defense responsibilities and Russian threat (21:30)
• Discussion of the trade-off between American “vigor” and European “regulatory stasis”

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5. Immigration Policy, Protests, and Media Spin

(25:23 - 34:33)

• Tense situation in Minneapolis as ICE and Border Patrol efforts are met with organized resistance and controversy after a fatal shooting
  • "ICE has a very tough job...agitating rioters...virtually impossible to do without interactions like that." — Joe (25:28)
  • "The agitators are making ICE’s job virtually impossible to do, which is 100% their goal." — Joe (25:54)
• Trump’s political maneuvering: phones Governor Tim Walz (D-MN) saying they’re on the "same wavelength"; indication of attempts to cool the situation
• Media and DHS under criticism for “spinning” events for political points
  • "I'm told there is extreme frustration with [DHS] officials going on TV...claiming that [the suspect] was intending to conduct a massacre of federal agents...Even after numerous videos appeared to show those claims were inaccurate." — Quoting Bill Melugin report, summarized by Joe (31:13)
  • "Specifically, I'm told there is extreme frustration...There is no indication Preddy was there to murder law enforcement, as videos appear to show he never drew his firearm." — Collected federal sources (31:39)
• Democratic officials quickly “condemning” incident as murder, Hitler comparisons ("Anne Frank" analogy)
  • "Tim Walz saying, this is like Anne Frank. This is just like the Nazis...They're not Nazis by any stretch of the imagination. It's horrible." — Jack (33:06)
• Discussion of protest dynamics: agitators provoked to elicit violent response for the news cycle ("Kent State" scenario alluded to repeatedly—34:33)

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6. NFL Playoff Recap & Sports Ownership Culture

(37:23 - 43:36)

• Recounting Super Bowl matchups (Seattle Ospreys vs. New England Patriots)
  • Past dominance by Patriots: "Sixteen times, the Patriots have been in the AFC Championship game, and this is gonna be their 12th Super Bowl appearance. Just stunning." — Jack (38:16)
  • Key insight: successful franchises are those where “winning it all” is a true annual goal, contrasted with owners content with mediocrity
  • "Most owners in sports...have no intention of really winning a championship." — Joe (38:57)
  • Anecdotes about the “Kings of Incompetence” (inside joke likely referencing perennial losers)
• Criticism of instant replay and challenges in sports officiating
  • "I’m the only person in the world that hates challenges of calls in all sports...I don’t feel like it’s changed much." — Jack (39:36)
  • "You're a ref out there...everybody’s going to look at this in slow motion 8 million times...then call me stupid." — Joe (40:36)
• Praise for modern football analysis: "Tony Romo and Tom Brady...make you realize how little you know about the game." — Joe (41:09)
  • Reference to the Netflix series Quarterback for behind-the-scenes insight

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If my son decides...to climb the world’s tallest buildings freeform...I hope it works out for you." — Jack (10:47)
• "Naps are good for the brain...I’m not lazy. I’m taking care of myself." — Michael (44:42)
• "They'd have to cut...because well, you ever seen anybody drop an egg on a kitchen floor? It’s not pleasant." — Jack (09:39)
• "I have found the last thing on earth I will ever do." — Jack (07:47)
• "Let’s fail fast and learn from it and go from there...that’s very, very American and I love that." — Jack (20:44)
• "Heat gets clicks, heat gets votes. The forces for...‘Everybody settle down, we got to do this right’...Man, they're just out of a job right now." — Joe (33:55)
• "We get to keep doing great things. If we're dumb and undisciplined...we lose the chance to do the good things." — Jack (45:33; closing final thought)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 02:45 – Jewel heist in Anaheim & lawlessness in CA
• 03:37 – Legal cannabis and enforcement chaos
• 07:05 – Alex Honnold's skyscraper climb and risk/risk aversion
• 13:33 – Napping and brain health
• 19:09 – Friedrich Merz & European regulation
• 25:23 – ICE protests, Minneapolis shooting, and media spin
• 37:23 – NFL playoff recap, sports ownership culture, instant replay debate

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Tone & Style

The episode is a signature blend of irreverent, sardonic humor and substantive cultural/political analysis. Jack’s and Joe’s banter is often self-effacing and skeptical, with a healthy distrust of bureaucratic authority and a preference for personal responsibility and freedom. Even the most serious topics are peppered with quick jokes or dark humor (“Splatty McPlummet”; “Sponsored by Furman’s Funeral Home”).

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is quintessential Armstrong & Getty: from sharp critiques of government dysfunction and media spin, to existential musings about why people risk their lives for a thrill. Listeners gain both a deconstruction of current headlines and timeless gripes about red tape, sports, “fail fast” culture, and even the restorative power of a twenty-minute nap.

Whether you want biting takes on organized protest tactics, regulatory malaise, or just to hear grown men shudder about climbing tall buildings, "Splatty McPlummet" gives you a lively, no-holds-barred talk show tour through the news and beyond.

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[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the.

[Jack Armstrong]

George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong. And get. Here's Armstrong and Yeti. Video of a violent jewel heist in Southern California. The car smashes into the store in Anaheim Hills on Friday. Multiple people are seen smashing cases and grabbing jewelry. Police say two getaway cars sped off, but both crashed into other vehicles. Seven arrests were made.

[Joe Getty]

Caught everybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's good.

[Joe Getty]

Had a pretty good plan. Didn't work out, though. Good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, just one more of those. You know, I was going to do this in a different order, but because that is part of the lawlessness trend in California, I thought this is the most California story I've come across in, you know, certainly the last few days from the WaPo. Why the black market is beating legal weed trade. Cannabis laws are leaving licensed sellers defenseless against the illicit industry. All right, that's. That's, you know, just bad governance. But it opens up with the story of this guy, Derek, who's the owner of a struggling cannabis cultivation company in Santa Cruz. He was fed up. His licensed business and other cannabis operators nearby had been hit by armed robberies over and over again. Local police department, he believed, wasn't doing enough about it. So he took matters into his own hands. He hired a private investigator who gathered information on the gang that was ransacking Bay Area weed businesses. He shared the details with law enforcement who advised him to. Advised him to educate himself on the second Amendment. So he bought a handgun, semiautomatic. When security alarms went off yet again at his indoor cultivation facility, he raced to the scene, saw four masked figures breaking into the building. One wheeled around with what looked like a gun in his hand. Drawing his weapon, Hubbard fired multiple rounds at the thieves, who shot back. So indeed, they were armed, riddling Hubbard's cars with bullets. The suspects got away after police reviewed surveillance video. Mr. Hubbard was arrested and charged with four counts of attempted murder. A month later, the same gang shot and killed a cop in Oakland while attempting to rob another licensed weed business. But thank God Derek was taken off the streets.

[Joe Getty]

Unbelievable.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's from the WaPo. And they say his case says a lot about the sorry condition of the legal cannabis trade.

[Joe Getty]

That is a problem that is a problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I mean, nobody's enforcing like illegal. Well, not nobody, but hardly anybody's worried about illegal marijuana because you can't tell legal from illegal by looking at it, smelling it, or. Or, you know, it's just. It's an interesting after effect with. Of what seemed like a reasonable idea to some people.

[Joe Getty]

And it is. And you know, it's. It's different than the world of booze because nobody is making booze that's as good as. Or better, you know, in their home or in their backyard. As good as. Or better legal booze for cheaper. I mean, it's just. It's not really a thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

At scale.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. At scale.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. You might brew up a couple of like fabulous bottles of bourbon or something like that, but you're not, you know, out producing Buffalo Trace anyway, so. Craziness. Very.

[Joe Getty]

How that's ever going to change where that illegal marijuana is just going to be more prevalent and cheaper than the legal stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unless they, you know, have the legal dope police out there who go, you know, perhaps to Minneapolis, which would.

[Joe Getty]

But that would only be to protect businesses, which I'm not against. But it wouldn't be to do anything about the marijuana, really, because the same number of people are going to be smoking dope. So it's not a drug thing, it's a business thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's almost. It's. It's like, you know, you remember who would go up the holler to bust the moonshiners? The revenue or man.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, tax guys.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, armed tax agents back in the day. Anyway, moving along. Little bingo bango bongo. Did anybody watch the. The. The climbing guy. Alex Honnold, the free solo guy. Climbed that damn building. And was it Taipei?

[Joe Getty]

Got so much attention, I posted the video of the part that made it makes my hands sweat. When I think about it, the. The stuff where he's going up the side of the building. All right. But when he gets to the top and then he has to.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm getting lightheaded.

[Joe Getty]

Pull himself up over that last bart where he's just hanging there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And he somehow has the hand and arm strength to pull himself up and climb over the top. But man, that makes my hands. Literally makes my palm sweat. They're doing it right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then he. And I sort of got. I'm getting nauseated and lightheaded. And then he stands up at the very, very top of the tower on top of the building and. And raises his arms up in triumph. They're 1,000ft in the air. Oh, 1667ft in the air, totally unmoored, unrestrained, no fencing, no nothing. Looking at the people down below. Oh my God. That is literally. I have found the last thing on earth I will ever do.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't catch. Was that legal or did he get arrested then like people do when they do that, or.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that was approved by the Taipei authorities because there was no police presence even discussed or mentioned that I heard.

[Joe Getty]

But because often you see sort of thing and then they do a triumph and then they're immediately arrested and then they pay a fine for some small trespassing thing, go about their life. I don't think you need to do that. You're not going to. The thing that's keeping me from climbing the outside of a 1500 foot building is not the law. And I think that's true for 99.9% of people.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's gravity.

[Joe Getty]

It's great.

[Jack Armstrong]

If there was a law that said I had to climb that building, I'd be in Leavenworth. Sorry.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, Katie? Oh, I, I, I'm just listening in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hanson saying it made him mad watching it.

[Joe Getty]

I couldn't watch it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would have been freaking out the whole time. That guy, if he would have slipped.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it wouldn't hurt, probably. You have a couple of seconds of real terror.

[Jack Armstrong]

Splatty McPlummett.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. That last part though, is just amazing. I don't know how anybody has this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go in effect backward and get a grip of a precipice that's like behind him and above him.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then swing out into space 1600ft in the air and then clamber up.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I wouldn't want to do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

With my feet 6 inches off the ground.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. I heard they had to delay in case he fell.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, really? That would make sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Well. Oh yeah, of course. Well, because they'd have to cut. Now here's where we have to end the videotape because, well, he's. You ever seen anybody drop an egg on a kitchen floor? It's not pleasant.

[Joe Getty]

Because, folks, we couldn't show splatty McPlummet. Why did you show that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because people would freak out and well, obviously everybody knows why. You don't show that. I don't think I do know. Scene is horrifying.

[Joe Getty]

He's voluntarily doing it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, go watch it online. Faces of Death. Normal people don't want to see that. That's why I like, if there's ever somebody killed in a high speed chase, all the cameras go, pan away. Right.

[Joe Getty]

That's a little different, though. I mean, that's. That's all kinds of. They didn't have it coming or whatever, you know, tragedy. This isn't a tragedy. Him falling would not. Okay, you tell me, is that defined as a tragedy? It wouldn't be to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

You want to see. It's not being copied open like an overripe tomato on the pavement.

[Joe Getty]

I wouldn't watch, but I don't know why you would go away. Like, out of respect for his family.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So we don't see him.

[Joe Getty]

If.

[Jack Armstrong]

If I.

[Joe Getty]

If my son decides that, you know, I'm gonna do for a living, I'm gonna climb the world's tallest buildings. Freeform. I'll think. Okay. We'll get your affairs in order, and I hope it works out for you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. But you'd want NBC to. To show him. I mean, I can't even complete the sentence, which proves. Katie. And my sane, humane point. And here's the face of your monstrousness. Here's the splat. Brought to you by Verizon Wireless.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's just. You lack a soul. You're born without one.

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[Joe Getty]

You know, I know somebody similar to this, and they just. They're completely 100 aware. He's a friend of mine who's a base jumper. I don't know if he's doing it as much anymore. We were a lot younger when I used to hang out with him and he was BASE jumping. But, I mean, he's a professional and he was in a famous M M's commercial that he would always show people where one, you know, M M's jumping out of a plane. Like a Super bowl commercial or something. He was one of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Back before cgi.

[Joe Getty]

He was one of the guys jumping out of the plane and they turned him into an Eminem. But anyway, he was a BASE jumper and he went to lots of funerals that people died, and they were just perfectly okay with the trade off of. I guess I've got a need for adrenaline.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I need it so bad.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's like being a NASCAR driver. It makes you very sad if one of your guys, one of your friends dies or gets terribly injured. But you understand that's what you do.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And I was thinking about this yesterday in. In. In regard to the guy climbing the building and then my bass jumper friend and everything like that. I guess we all have different levels of risk and liking thrill because I'm. I'm a motorcycle rider. I like riding motorcycles. A lot of people don't ride motorcycles just because it's more dangerous and I make that trade off and have my entire life and continue to and I. I'm not exactly sure why. I mean it's much less likely than BASE jumping or climbing freeform those buildings but there's. It's similar.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well and not to tell tales out of school, but you don't drive them like a 65 year old retiree with a Honda Gold Wing. No.

[Joe Getty]

Usually.

[Jack Armstrong]

You have indeed tested the balance of machine and man at times true.

[Joe Getty]

And yeah. I don't know. So I guess we're all built. I don't know. We. We're stupid. Are people that this stupid or is it just have different risk tolerance? I don't know what it is just.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael, I can barely get on a step stool before I get dizzy. So you do you. That's what I say. You live the life you want to live. That's the way you want to live.

[Joe Getty]

You're right though. When he leaned back and grabbed that ledge and then his feet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stop talking about it.

[Joe Getty]

Holy crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. All right, so here's the fifth best piece of news I've ever gotten. Number one, Judy said she'd marry me. Number two, three and four, your. Your baby is healthy. Although one was touch and go. Number five, afternoon naps are actually really good for your brain. I'm so happy. Not only is it the most delicious feeling ever just to drift off on the old coucharoony or the old recliner.

[Joe Getty]

Aruni, whatever your information you have, I need to print out, get it laminated and carry it in my pocket.

[Jack Armstrong]

The synaptic connections in the brain were able to recover and were better prepared to take in new content after a little nap.

[Joe Getty]

Look at me. I'm proof.

[Jack Armstrong]

Any amount of rest can help our minds recover and reset without losing any previously picked up information. Researchers also pointed out out that occasional sleep problems don't automatically cause a decline in learning or performance. Blah blah, blah, blah blah. Just you know, keep it 20 minutes, 45 minutes. If any longer than that, it triggers sleep inertia, which is the brain's desire to continue sleeping.

[Joe Getty]

So what's the maximum length they recommend?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, they're kind of vague about that. They, they love the 20 minute, the 40 minute job.

[Joe Getty]

20 to 40, something like that. Okay. And then does anybody recommend a slice of pie after you get up?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, it goes.

[Joe Getty]

It's really great for the brain.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Don't worry about obesity and no problem. What'd you do this afternoon? I slept and ate pie because I.

[Joe Getty]

Care about my health. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Actually they mentioned after a 45 minute nap in this one experiment that it was, it was really good for the brain. So.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

You try it. See what? See and everybody who, whoever takes naps comes to this conclusion or set of conclusions. That amount is a little too long because I'm super groggy.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's the worst feeling in the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, Falling off a 1600 foot tower is pretty bad too, but that's a bad feeling certainly. So.

[Joe Getty]

Brought to you by Pizza Hut.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, unfortunate.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, we might still be going to war with Iran. That got. That story got obliterated over the weekend because the shooting in Minneapolis, that's still. That's hotter than it was a week ago. Among other things we can talk about. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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You know, I liked hearing that news that some science says an afternoon that might be good for your brain. But the thing I wish they could figure out and you're either an app or your own, you aren't. I know people who say they don't and can't. And then there are people like me who crave one every day of their life.

[Jack Armstrong]

My wife almost never does.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I can't imagine not wanting a nap. But anyway, I've never once in my life laid down to take a nap and not been able to get to sleep. As opposed to it's a struggle every night at night.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish.

[Joe Getty]

I wish I'd figure that out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Interesting. If only there was a pill you could take. Elvis. Anyway, so maybe you thought Trump was a little over the top about the Greenland thing. Maybe you think he was a little abusive at times at the big meetings over in Europe the other day. Maybe that's all true, but Europe still has been nearly worthless now for several decades.

[Joe Getty]

And interestingly enough, it is the Germans.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who are willing to say it out loud. Friedrich Merz, the head guy in Germany. Here he is in Davos giving a little speech. 80 Michael we are aware of those problems. Both Germany and Europe have wasted incredible potential for growth in recent years by dragging feet on reforms and unnecessarily and excessively curtailing entrepreneurial Freedoms and personal responsibility. We are going to change that now. Security and predictability take precedence over excessive regulation and misplaced perfection. We must reduce bureaucracy substantially. In Europe, the single market was once created to form the most competitive economic area in the world. But instead we have become the world champion of over regulation. That has to end.

[Joe Getty]

I wish I'd have taken notes on that. There are several phrases in there I loved.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, agreed.

[Joe Getty]

What was the thing about perfection or whatever?

[Jack Armstrong]

That is awesome, right? You know, I wish I could remember.

[Joe Getty]

What we were talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was talking to a couple of fellows and it was something that was uniquely very American, very adventurous, very, let's try this. And we started talking about the world attack for all their sins. But the idea of let's fail fast and learn from it and go from there, wouldn't that be fun and interesting and cool? That's very, very American and I love that. And I would hate, hate, hate for us to become a Euro style. Safety first, safety first. This might go wrong. Let's make sure we never make a mistake. Let's have so many regulations, nothing the slightest bit inconvenient ever happens. And then you end up like Europe.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's a heck of a thing. Out of the leader of Germany.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. And look, Trump is a dick a lot of the time, but he sure shocked Europe into saying, hey, you know, we really ought to contribute to our own defense. We really ought to wake up to the Russian threat. We really ought to be an active partner.

[Joe Getty]

I'm pretty interested in that debate. It's an ongoing debate even, even alone on the right of whether or not it's a good thing or a bad thing that Europe is waking up to the fact that they need to be able to be on their own with some thinking being the world. The Europe has gone to war in so many different ugly ways throughout history with each other, with other countries. And this period of us dominating them and them relying on us has been the most people peaceful period maybe in world history.

[Jack Armstrong]

So yeah, I wish we could, we could find a middle ground in between. They're useless as an ally or where you split apart and they're on their own. How about we continue to be an alliance and they're an ally worth having? I mean that would be, you know, the sweet spot, obviously.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Boy, what a great development that is. I think if you missed a segment, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

ICE has a very tough job. It is very hard when they're walking, trying to do their job.

[Joe Getty]

And there are agitators and rioters everywhere. These men, and not peacefully protesting, they are trying to impede and obstruct ice.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it makes the job that our.

[Joe Getty]

Men and women have to do virtually impossible to do without interactions like that. That's Todd Blanche, the Deputy Attorney General. These agitators are making ICE's job virtually impossible to do, which is 100% their goal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And hoping to provoke.

[Jack Armstrong]

To provoke violence. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And if you get enough hot rhetoric and pushing and shoving and everything involved, you know, you can. It can explode into violence, which is what they're hoping for. And that's an ugly situation.

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Joe Getty]

Trump is. I mean, he. He keeps his finger on the pulse of things, polling and all that sort of stuff. We've seen him over. You know, he's into his second term now. He'll switch against a conservative principle on a dime if it, if it doesn't seem to be working for him politically, does it over and over again. So he wants to win the politics on these various things. And so he. I thought this was just interesting from that standpoint. I think he probably saw that Bill Malusian tweet, which we're gonna read from here in a little bit from Fox News and a bunch of the other commentary that's out there from people on the right. So Trump had a phone conversation with Minnesota Governor Tim Walls this morning, claiming they're on the similar wavelength. He said he called Tim Walls. Trump called Walls today and is happy that borders are. Border czar Tom Holman is headed to deal with things with the assumption that this is kind of pushing Kristi Gnome off the podium as the lead ICE Barbie person on this whole thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, clearly, huh. Tom, who, to his credit, the other day, you remember, in the wake of the first shooting of the lady in the minivan, said, no, I don't have any comment on it. The investigation's just begun. We need to wait until all the facts are known, like adults used to say. Yeah, it was great.

[Joe Getty]

Governor Tim Walls and me are going to work together with respect to Minnesota. It was a good call. We actually seem to be on a similar wavelength. He was happy that Tom Holman is going to be in Minnesota, and so am I. So that's the big move by Trump today, sending home and, and getting Kristi Noem out of the picture, I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right, right. Hey, you know, as I said earlier, it's 100% legitimate that the federal government enforces immigration law. But things are hot now to the point that too many people are going to get hurt. I mean, sworn officers who are not meant to be controlling riots while they serve immigration warrants, it's not their job. That's now become their reality. So, yeah, I want to enforce the law, but I don't want to put these guys in that position over and over and over again. You're going to have tragedies on both sides.

[Joe Getty]

You know what I was thinking today? I'll bet the agitators, the organized agitators, we heard from Border, former border Patrol earlier, guy with a think tank said, we've got the communications between these people. They're organizing all across the country. Their mission is to overthrow the US Government. Not just, I mean, they, they. So that's what they're up to. I'll bet they talk to everybody, say no violence, no violence, no violence. I'll bet they know we're on the, we're on the winning side of this right now. We do not want the story to be, we killed an ICE agent, we killed a border patrol dude. We are winning this battle. Let's just keep it going. Yeah, I bet they're more disciplined, I guess, in other words, than the Trump side.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, they wouldn't have to put that out because the whole decision dilemma, provoke violence thing is so clearly and has been for decades, their strategy. We get in your face, we make it impossible to do your job, we threaten you, we annoy you until you punch one of us. Then we put it on the news immediately, and the news is more than happy to air it. That's their strategy anyway.

[Joe Getty]

And I was also thinking, my final word on this is, sure, when I was watching the press conference yesterday morning, they had Bovino, they had somebody from ICE and somebody from Border Patrol, and then they started taking questions. There wasn't a member of the press corps, not one, I guarantee you, that thinks federal immigration policy should be enforced. I mean, they're not only, you know, obviously we don't want innocent people shot, but I guarantee there wasn't a person in that room, maybe there was a Fox person there who thinks we ought to enforce the law. What kind of way is that to cover this story?

[Jack Armstrong]

I know, I know the media is horrible. So Bill Malusian, who's in the media, is not horrible. I, in fact, as Jack was saying earlier today, his bona fides in terms of being A, a great reporter, B, honest, and C, certainly sympathetic to conservative principles. Unimpeachable. He's terrific. He's also very, very well connected with the law enforcement community because he represents them fairly. And he wrote the following. Since yesterday's deadly shooting in Minnesota, obviously this is from yesterday, I think, two days ago. I've talked to more than half a dozen federal sources involved in immigration enforcement, including several in senior positions, who all tell me they have grown increasingly uneasy and frustrated with some of the claims and narratives DHS pushed in the aftermath of the shooting. Specifically, I'm told there is extreme frustration with DHS officials going on TV and putting out statements claiming that Alex Preddy, that was the young nurse who was shot, was intending to conduct a massacre of federal agents or wanted to carry out maximum damage even after. After numerous videos appeared to show those claims were inaccurate. While they say it was a terrible decision to show up with a gun and inject himself into federal law enforcement operations, clearly true, there is no indication Preddy was there to murder law enforcement, as videos appear to show he never drew his firearm. These sources say this messaging from DHS officials has been catastrophic from a PR and morale perspective as it is eroding trust and credibility, comparing it to when Democrats falsely claimed the border was closed or that Haitians were being whipped at the border. And he talks about guys being so fed up they wish they could retire. How DHS is making the situation worse. DHS is wrong. We're losing this war. We're losing the base. We're losing the narrative. This is a obscene term situation all over the place.

[Joe Getty]

I can't imagine there's anybody in Minneapolis who's happy that they're doing their job right now and wishes, you know, I don't want to blow up my whole career and, like, retire, you know, quit and have to get a new career or whatever, but I do not want to be here doing this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Right. I'm sure there are a lot of cops listening right now who are familiar with the dynamic where, you know, the chief or the mayor or the city council comes out and says something completely effing stupid about something the cops had to do. And you've got to sit there silent because you're not, you know, approved as a spokesman. You're not authorized to make public statements. So, yeah, the guys, the uniform guys are thinking, oh, my God, he showed up specifically to slaughter us, and we stopped him just in time. Look at the video. I've looked at the video. Yeah. Just terrible. Kristi Noem has to go yesterday.

[Joe Getty]

Of course, the Democratic mayor and Democratic governor coming out immediately and condemning it as a clear murder is of no help either.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, and Tim Waltz saying, this is like Anne Frank. This is just like the Nazis. If I believed that, I would be physically doing what the Marxists are doing right now. They're not Nazis by any stretch of the imagination. It's horrible. He and the, he and the, the freaking mayor both just utter, they're, they're a, they're morons and B, they are. So they're either in the pocket of the hardcore agitators or they're too stupid to know the difference between hardcore agitators and people who just have a different opinion of immigration law.

[Joe Getty]

So Morning Joe Scarborough this morning, the most important political cable news showed they just stated flatly two execution style killings in two weeks. That's just unconscionable to say that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's not very helpful either. Heat gets clicks, heat gets votes. He gets contributions, political contributions. The forces for. Hey, hey, hey. Everybody settle down. We got to do this right. Man, they're just out of a job right now.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I sure hope we don't have like a big one coming. Could happen any minute where, you know, crowd goes after these agents and one of them freaks out and you hear a gunshot and you don't know where it's coming from. Then you got like four dead, eight shot or something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kent State.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, that could happen so easily. Anyway, we'll be keeping our eye on that story. I want to talk a little bit about the football games from yesterday. The referees have just come out with an apology on one of their calls from yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Big call.

[Joe Getty]

About time during the games, which is its own problem. But anyway, lots on the way. We'll finish strong next. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

Desperation for Stafford.

[Jack Armstrong]

Eight seconds left. Loading up near side.

[Joe Getty]

Nicole.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is he out of bounds? Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

Three seconds.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're gonna run the clock. That's gonna do it. The Seahawks. So 60.

[Joe Getty]

That was a heck of a play.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish my name was Puka Nakua.

[Joe Getty]

So you got the two teams that are going to be in the Super Bowl. The Seattle Ospreys are going to take on the New England Patriots. And if you are a couple of different things that I wanted to bring up. If you are a fan somewhere of a team that like, you know, just can't ever quite get there, you have to wonder about franchises like the New England Patriots who have played in the AFC championship game, 16 times. I mean, I've rooted for teams. So many teams, like, if you ever make it once, you talk about it forever. Sixteen times, the Patriots have been in the AFC Championship game, and this is gonna be their 12th Super bowl appearance. Just stunning. I mean, and so it's all different players from the, you know, times before. So it's just something they just better at picking. I don't know what.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, they're better at picking executives, and those executives are better at picking players and coaches. I'm familiar, certainly, with some sports franchises that have terrible ownership and have and will never win. You might even call them the kings of incompetence. Michael.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I have read about this before, though, and this. Fans don't want to know this or hear this, but there are most owners in sports, even though they're very, very rich, people have no intention of really winning a championship. I mean, if it came together and their young players won, that'd be awesome. But that's not their goal every year. Whereas there are some, like the Lakers and the Patriots, apparently, and just different sports.

[Jack Armstrong]

The. The.

[Joe Getty]

The. The Dodgers. There's just some ownerships. It's like, no, our goal is to win it all, and we're gonna.

[Jack Armstrong]

That.

[Joe Getty]

That's our goal. But most teams that we all root for, they're not trying as hard as they can to do that and spending whatever money they got to spend.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

49Ers are one of those teams.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Definitely championships, but absolutely are and have had the playoff appearance results the other. So my. My screed that I make all the time. I'm the only person in the world that. That. That hates challenges of calls in all sports. I just hate it. It slows down the game. I just. Something exciting happened. Okay. Now we're gonna wait five minutes to go to the booth. And I don't feel like it's. And I know the argument is always. It's more important to get the call right. That's the most important thing. But I feel like there are just as many controversies now as there were in the old days where you just went with the call on the court or the field or the whatever. I don't feel like it's changed much.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's an interesting take. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

The last several weeks, there have been huge calls that everybody's arguing about just as much as if you went back to the old days where it just. You called it and you moved on to the next play.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, a lot of the calls are not reviewable, but, yeah, yeah, you're right.

[Joe Getty]

Also, you talk about a tough job now that they do that, where you can challenge. Now you're a ref out there, and you got to think, oh, God, everybody's going to look at this in slow motion 8 million times from 15 different angles and then call me stupid or incompetent or on the take because I didn't get it right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm running at full speed, trying to call it from 20, 20 yards away at full speed. Yeah, I suck. Okay. You come out here and do it, huh?

[Joe Getty]

I can't even imagine how you make those calls in real time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Haphazardly.

[Joe Getty]

The other thing I find interesting is I feel like the color commentators are better at Tony Romo and Tom Brady, specifically, of making you realize how little you know about the game and all your stuff about you. You know, a good team wins or loses or whatever. There's so much more going on than you have need idea of. And they talk about they called that play because they saw that they didn't make the substitution on the up. Just all kinds of things going on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. If you're into that sort of thing, watch the Netflix series Quarterback.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely. Terrific for that. Yeah. Specifically season one. I think it's the first episode where Peyton Manning explains everything that happens between breaking the huddle and the ball being snapped. It will blow your mind if you're not familiar with that sort of thing.

[Joe Getty]

And we, you know, dunder pates like myself watch it and just think it's a. He can throw it really hard. Yeah. Or he wants it more or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, exactly. And, yeah, the fact that, you know. And I couldn't even do it justice, but you break the huddle, guy goes in motion, you recognize that they're running a too high zone, so you kill the play at the line, having installed two plays in the huddle. And all 11 guys on the field know, okay, we're going off of the long code name one. We're going to the second long code name play. That's our play. And then, you know, then you hope you're right and you stamp the ball. But yeah, it's, It's. It's much more sophisticated than. They don't want it enough. Which was the perfect example.

[Joe Getty]

Seahawks are currently 4 1/2 point favorites for the Super Bowl. That might change before you get there. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it's all about the matchups, Jack. I'm fond of saying that lately. About that weather in Denver, though. How'd you like to be that field goal kicker? You're trying to kick to go to the super bowl in the snow with wind. I mean, coach calls you, your number, you know the kicking team, you're like, oh, there go my effing stats.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I like. They had a sideline reporter that I thought she did a really good job of showing. I'm facing this direction and I got my eyes closed. Everything now I turn this way and look, I have my eyes open. And so that's how much difference it made whether you're the team on this side or the team on that side in that weather.

[Jack Armstrong]

You were right. I like a nice snow game, but the weather was so bad, nobody could do anything. They couldn't run, they couldn't pass, they couldn't kick. They're just punting the ball back and forth, forth.

[Joe Getty]

When the weather really kicked in and got bad, it was just who was ever ahead at the time was going to win. That's pretty much the way it worked out. Which is not, not what you want.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unless somebody fell down at a critical moment or something. But no, it was so bad they didn't even get a chance to do that. I'll never.

[Joe Getty]

I grew up in cold weather and I've been around cold weather my whole life. I still don't understand how these guys are bare handed out there when it's 12 with the wind chill for as long as they are.

[Jack Armstrong]

How do they have freezes?

[Joe Getty]

How do they not get more frostbite?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, they got the little marsupial womb thing. Some of them do. I don't know. What do you call that thing? I don't know, but I need one.

[Joe Getty]

Look at the hand warmers and all that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Who knows how long I've listened. I started four hours ago. Now it's time for final Thoughts with.

[Jack Armstrong]

Our co host, Jack and Joe. That's nice. Very musical.

[Joe Getty]

That's some fine ukulele. And here's your host for final thoughts. Joking.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day. There is our technical director Michelangelo in the controller, Michael.

[Joe Getty]

Final thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, this is kind of a message from my wife. Naps are good for the brain.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not lazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm taking care of myself. Okay, so right.

[Joe Getty]

So her. You're taking care of yourself for her.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right. Also, we still need final thought submissions. [e-mail] that's right. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman has a final thought. Katie.

[Joe Getty]

Well, Joe mentioned he wished his name was Puka Nakua. So I vote we all start calling him Puka.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'd be fine. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Puka.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've already got like seven nicknames. What's one more? Jack, a final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

I'm glad Trump and Walls talked on the phone today. I hope somebody can find a way to calm this down. I. I really am concerned. We've got a. Joe keeps referencing Kent State like a people remember it forever sort of violence thing happening. Could happen any moment.

[Jack Armstrong]

And my final thought is to reiterate, if we're smart about the way we do things on the conservative side of the aisle, we get to keep doing great things. If we're dumb and undisciplined about doing those things, we lose the chance to do the good things. Gotta be more disciplined.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't want to let those Marxists win. So many people to thank, so little time. Go to armstrongandgetty.com oh, we've got that absolutely brilliant piece by Jonathan Haidt about how the devil would steal the souls of the young people if he was given a chance. You got to read it. You just gotta. Armstrong getty.com that is good stuff.

[Joe Getty]

All right, we will see you tomorrow. God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. As the kids like to say, the world is crashing out. Nobody can make nice or think twice about what they're saying in a time like this. Just know you got two friends, Jack and Joe. The Armstrong and Get.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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