Stop It, Puffy!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — "Stop It, Puffy!"

Date: October 3, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty on Demand tackles a broad range of pressing issues, from the state of global antisemitism after a tragic attack in London, to American political infighting, cultural shifts in liberal cities, social dog etiquette, the Democratic Party’s internal battle over education, and updates on international conflicts. The hosts combine sharp commentary, humor, and pointed skepticism as they dissect news, cultural trends, and political maneuvering with their trademark candor.

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Main Topics & Key Discussion Points

1. Terror Attack and Antisemitism in the UK ([03:06]–[09:22])

• London Synagogue Attack:
  The episode opens with the hosts reflecting on a terrorist attack at a London synagogue during Yom Kippur. Jack reads a harrowing Twitter thread (by Ashley Reinsberg) about the pervading sense of fear and insecurity among British Jews.

• Discussion of Antisemitism:
  Joe expands the conversation to growing antisemitism in Europe and issues surrounding free speech, particularly the chilling effect censorship has on voicing legitimate concerns about radical Islamism and antisemitism.

  “People can’t express legitimate concern about the rise of A, Islamism and B, antisemitism, anti-Christianism… You can’t bring those concerns out publicly. And it is horrifying.” - Joe Getty [06:12]

• Government Response:
  The hosts express incredulity that authorities' main response is increased security, not addressing root causes.

  “Why should Jewish kids go to a school in London or Manchester under a flanks of security guards?” - Jack Armstrong (reading Reinsberg) [05:22]

• Culture Clash / Free Speech:
  The discussion broadens to the inability in the UK to openly discuss and confront these social issues without fear of reprisal or being labeled as bigots.

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2. Cracker Barrel PR Fiasco & Corporate Image Blunders ([09:22]–[10:25])

• PR Backlash:
  Jack brings up the Cracker Barrel logo controversy — they dropped a PR firm after a disastrous rebranding.

  “Everybody hated your ideas. And you know who hated them the most? Our core customers.” - Joe Getty [09:58]

• Corporate Reputation:
  The exchange mocks the tendency of companies to chase social trends without regard for their core audiences.

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3. Government Data and Shutdowns ([10:25]–[13:26])

• Jobs Data and Private Sector:
  The hosts discuss how the government shutdown affects the release of jobs data and mock the necessity of government stats given the proliferation of private alternatives.

  “Why the hell are we spending zillions of dollars to have the government do it?” - Jack Armstrong [11:48]

• Shutdown Impact?
  Both express apathy toward government shutdown coverage, seeing its impact as exaggerated by the mainstream news.

  “If the best thing you got to scare me about the government shutdown is the numbers not coming out today. All right, Well, I guess it's not as big a deal as I thought.” - Jack Armstrong [12:14]

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4. Diddy (Sean Combs) Apology and Sentencing Debate ([16:45]–[17:36])

• Diddy’s Apology:
  The hosts sarcastically discuss Sean “Diddy” Combs' public apology for his crimes amid sentencing.

  “I take full responsibility for the stuff that is on video of me doing.” - Jack Armstrong [17:24]

• Critique of Celebrity Apologies:
  They note the inadequacy of high-profile apologies and skepticism towards lenient sentencing.

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5. “Blue Cities” Chaos: Antifa in Portland & Dog Culture in San Francisco ([17:36]–[23:22])

• Portland Antifa Encampment:
  The hosts detail the near-anarchic conditions at Portland’s ICE detention center — about 100+ days of protests and violence, with local law enforcement ordered not to intervene.

  “Most of them are on a lot of medication. ... It’s crazy how violent it gets, especially at night.” - Joe Getty (quoting local source) [19:11]

• ICE Tracker App Removal:
  Jack highlights the rare moment of Apple cooperating with law enforcement to remove the ICE Tracker app.

• San Francisco — “Dog Friendly” Mayhem:
  Story of SF’s extreme dog-friendliness turning into civic nuisance: unleashed dogs in public spaces, poorly trained “service animals,” and entitled owners.

  “I’ve always been annoyed by people who think their dogs are in control enough and then they aren’t. ... Puffy, stop it, Puffy, stop it right now.” - Jack Armstrong [22:11]

• Cultural Commentary:
  The hosts note how SF citizens are finally recognizing that “there’s such a thing as too much” tolerance.

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6. Democratic Party, Education, and the Battle Over Fundamentals ([26:52]–[36:26])

• Democratic Socialism Debate:
  Jack and Joe parody a typical debate between a “democratic socialist” candidate (Zoran Mamdani) and critics.

  “He’s a freaking communist.” - Joe Getty [27:19]

• Gifted Program Cuts:
  Mamdani’s move to cut gifted programs in NYC schools is critiqued as “pursuing equity by dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator.” [27:33]

• Warning About Socialist Policies:
  The hosts warn that leftward drift could result in policy failures blamed not on the ideas themselves, but on “not going far enough.”

  “The only way it (socialism) still exists is people saying, well, it hasn’t been tried properly… but you get to say, well, it just hasn’t been able to do it all the way.” - Jack Armstrong [28:39]

• Rahm Emanuel’s Centrist Push:
  Joe highlights Rahm Emanuel’s recent op-ed calling for an education “reset.” They quote his critiques of Democratic missteps, such as not prioritizing reading and math, over-emphasizing pronouns and school naming battles, and excessive pandemic school closures.

  “We've become so obsessed with bathroom access that we've ignored classroom excellence.” - Rahm Emanuel (quoted by Joe Getty) [31:27] “We’ve spent the past five years debating pronouns without noticing that too many students can’t tell you what a pronoun is.” - Rahm Emanuel (quoted) [31:24]

• Political Implications:
  They express support for Emanuel as a Democratic candidate and discuss whether moderates could reclaim the party from the far left.

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7. Social Fragmentation After COVID ([37:12]–[37:59])

• Change in Public Norms:
  Jack notes that post-COVID, SF residents are less likely to call out bad behavior (like misbehaving dogs), suggesting a breakdown of social bonds and communal expectations.

  “People just got disconnected from each other. Yeah, we forgot how to be people.” - Joe Getty [38:07]

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8. Surveillance Tech & Privacy Fears ([41:52]–[42:34])

• Instagram & Microphone Spying:
  Skepticism about big tech eavesdropping after Instagram’s denial that it listens to users’ microphones; general mistrust of tech giants’ privacy policies.

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9. Foreign Affairs: Israel-Hamas Truce Pressure & Ukraine/Russia Escalation ([42:34]–[47:57])

• Trump’s Ultimatum to Hamas:
  The hosts discuss Trump’s ultimatum for Hamas to accept a peace deal by Sunday at 6:00 PM EST or face devastating military action.

  “An agreement must be reached by 6 o'clock. Every country is signed on. If this last chance agreement is not reached, all hell like no one has ever seen before will break out against Hamas.” - Trump statement (read by Jack Armstrong) [43:24]

• Regional Implications:
  They discuss how regional powers (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar) just want the conflict resolved, and implications for US and Israeli policy.

• Ukraine/Russia Update:
  Reports of Ukrainian attacks on Russian oil infrastructure, Putin’s denials of invasion intent toward NATO countries, and the risk of further escalation. Questions swirl over when Article 4 or 5 might be triggered by Russian actions in NATO countries.

  “It looks as if a war with the Russians is just around the corner. They keep repeating this mantra over and over again, he (Putin) said in televised remarks.” - Jack Armstrong [45:20]

• NATO Dilemma:
  Mark Halperin’s take on NATO’s denial about Russian provocations as “the biggest story on the planet besides everything China.” [46:36]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Why do synagogues need a rotation of specially trained guards at every event?” - Jack Armstrong (re: UK antisemitism) [05:22]
• “They are so terrified of their Muslim population, and so British...that people can’t express legitimate concern...” - Joe Getty [06:12]
• “It's like, the voters of San Francisco have finally found the courage to say there's such a thing as too much.” - Joe Getty [23:07]
• “Liberty means you can do what you want as long as you don’t hurt other people... License means you can do whatever the f you want and damn the consequences.” - Joe Getty [20:32]
• “We’ve spent the past five years debating pronouns without noticing that too many students can’t tell you what a pronoun is.” - (quoting Rahm Emanuel) [31:24]
• “That's such a crime against humanity.” - Jack Armstrong (re: COVID school closures) [32:47]
• “He was a puppet being manipulated by his young staffers.” - Joe Getty (on Biden) [35:58]
• “You let Putin get away with it, you guarantee more horror to come.” - Joe Getty [47:34]

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Segment Timestamps

• [03:06]–[09:22] — Terror attack and antisemitism discussion
• [09:22]–[10:25] — Cracker Barrel PR disaster
• [10:25]–[13:26] — Government stats vs. private sector; shutdown
• [16:45]–[17:36] — Diddy/Sean Combs apology and sentencing
• [17:36]–[23:22] — Portland Antifa siege; San Francisco’s dog situation
• [26:52]–[36:26] — Progressive v. moderate Democrats; education reform and Rahm Emanuel
• [37:12]–[37:59] — COVID, social trust, and disengagement in San Francisco
• [41:52]–[42:34] — Instagram and privacy fears
• [42:34]–[47:57] — Israel-Hamas truce, US/Trump stance, Ukraine-Russia-NATO tensions

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Tone & Style

Throughout the episode, Armstrong and Getty bounce between sarcasm, exasperation, and grim humor. Their approach is direct, occasionally irreverent, and always skeptical of both mainstream narratives and ideological bandwagons — regardless of the source. They blend serious reflection (as with antisemitism and education) with comedic jabs (at PR fails, dog owners, and politicians), keeping the discussion accessible yet substantive.

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For Listeners

This episode is a whirlwind tour of current events, blending hard news with caustic wit and cultural criticism. Whether you’re following international crises, frustrated by American politics, or bemused by everyday civic life, Armstrong and Getty bring both levity and depth to the week's most attention-grabbing stories.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and get. A deadly attack branded by authorities as terror at a synagogue in the UK on the holiest day of the Jewish year, Yom Kippur.

[Unidentified Announcer/Voice]

You know, and I just, I don't feel safe.

[Jack Armstrong]

This morning a man rammed a car into worshippers outside, then got out and stabbed Moore with a knife. He tried to get inside the synagogue, but the door was barricaded. All those inside were safely contained until.

[Joe Getty]

Police were able to confirm that it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was safe to leave the premises. So when we start the show every single day, we Maybe you don't hear the beginning of the show where I say, today we're under the tutelage of our general manager. And then Joe names somebody who's our manager for the day. Usually a person or event or idea.

[Joe Getty]

And today it was anti Semitism worldwide.

[Jack Armstrong]

I came across this post on Twitter from a guy named Ashley Reinsberg, who I don't know, he writes for Substack. He's a investigative officer, journalist, sort of writer person. And he posted this. I thought it was really good yesterday afternoon. This morning, as I sat in a London synagogue for Yom Kippur services, a friend sitting next to me said, I reckon Jews have about 10 years left in this country. I said I disagreed and that it's not as bad as it seems. About 20 minutes later, the service was suddenly interrupted. A synagogue security official went up to the podium and said there had been a major incident in the north and they were locking down this synagogue. There was a buzz of fear. Children's services were canceled. We were not to leave. My friend looked at me and said, you see What I mean? Ten years in 2025, two Jews were murdered for the crime of praying in a synagogue in Britain. Truth is, I don't know a single Jewish family in London. Now this is the important part because you got a liver to know this. Truth is, I don't know a single Jewish family in London doesn't speak openly and often about leaving. These are dyed in the wool. Brits who love this country, but they are watching the England they know disintegrate around them. British Jews have lost the right to security and safety. The response by Authorities is to attack. To this attack is to pledge more security at Jewish schools and synagogues. They're just restating the problem. Why should Jewish kids go to a school in London or Manchester under a flanks of security guards? Why do synagogues need a rotation of specially trained guards at every event? Jewish parents who pass by secular and non Jewish parochial schools might gaze in wonder, perhaps envy, at the sight of children entering their schools without six or seven men in stab vests standing guard. And Keir Starmer comes out with his valiant statement. We will defeat anti Semitism. No, they will tolerate it, ally with it, reward its most virulent opponents. And the most insane part is that I write this with the full knowledge that it's me who might get the knock on my door from the police to get to ask me about this very tweet, which I find. Which they find concerning.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Absolutely true. Joe Rogan, God bless him, has joined me in railing against the censorship of opinion in Britain. They are so terrified of their Muslim population and so British in that, you know, we're always very polite and do not wish to give offense that people can't express legitimate concern about the rise of A, Islamism and B, anti Semitism, anti Christianism, rape of young girls, whatever. You can't bring those concerns out publicly. And it is horrifying.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, how about the fact that.

[Joe Getty]

That the government would capitulate to that and enable that, as that writer was just describing, is. I mean, that is an unbelievable. It's a really scary betrayal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, how about he's sitting in the synagogue, guy next to him says, I feel like Jews in London, we got about 10 more years. And then the attack happens at a different synagogue. And he says every Jewish person he knows talks openly about having to leave Great Britain.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's unbelievable. Yeah. Wow. And then you combine that with the fact that by saying that out loud, you might get a knock on your door and end up in jail because there's no free speech around this issue. It's too inflammatory.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I mean, for the millionth time, Islam is for many people a personal faith, like being a Lutheran. It is also for hundreds of millions of people around the world, a religious system, a political system, an economic system, and one that will be expanded even if it's over the dead bodies of those who resist. There are hundreds of millions of people who believe that around the world. It's undeniable. And the problem is, especially for good, decent, patriotic Muslim Americans or Brits, the problem is the second group masquerades as the first and tries to convince you. Oh, hey, hey, we're just trying to practice our faith. And if you express concern about rape gangs in Manchester or whatever, you're an Islamophobe, a term I never, ever use. And they get people to remain silent for fear of being branded bigots. And that's a specific strategy by the. We'll call them the bad guys. There's. I'm sorry, one more thing. There's. There's a saying I just became aware of fairly recently. But the idea is, I will demand freedom from you because those are your values. When I have power, I will deny freedom to you because those are my values. And their values are out there in the open if you look for them. But it's. It's a difficult wrestling match, I'll admit that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'd say so. Bunch of things we got to talk about over the final couple hours of the show today, but I like this one. Cracker Barrel has ended their partnership with the consulting firm behind the logo change after intense black backlash. Not a surprise. Hey, I think we're not going to renew your contract because you came up with this idea that had everybody in the entire freaking country talking about us in a negative way every day for, like a week. And everything was fine. So clean out your desk.

[Joe Getty]

Everybody hated your ideas. And you know who hated them the most? Our core customers. So good to work with you.

[Jack Armstrong]

People who love us most were the most upset. So they've gotten rid of their PR firm. Oh, and then that PR firm. What's. How are they going to pitch themselves to somebody else? Yeah, we. We came up with the whole taking Uncle Harold off the Cracker Barrel logo or whatever that was.

[Joe Getty]

No, we. You got to change your name and just try to reinvent yourself or something. Lie. Just lie. Oh, no, that wasn't us. So this is about a snippet length that I. I thought y' all would enjoy. It's. It's almost a little game. I'm gonna read you something, and then there's gonna be, like, a dot, dot, dot, and you're gonna fill in the blank and the blanks like a sentence. Okay, here. Here we go. It's about the fact that the first Friday each month, economists and investors and policymakers usually are studying the latest government jobs report. But not today because of the shutdown means the Bureau of Labor Statistics is in issuing reports, sending anyone eager to learn more about the recently sluggish job market scrambling for alternatives. Nothing entirely fits the bill, but a proliferation of alternative stats are helping to fill the gaps, there's payroll processor ADP, which uses data for more than 26 million workers at ADP customer firms to gauge employment. Job posting site indeed produces an alternative to the BLS's jobs opening report. And newcomer Revelio Labs uses figures from networking platforms to get readings on measures including employment, salaries, hiring and attrition. And if you combine that, you get really, really accurate data.

[Jack Armstrong]

So big flipping, why the hell are.

[Joe Getty]

We spending zillions of dollars to have the government do it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

Especially because the government's methodology is to send out these surveys that we've been talking about that back in the day they got really good compliance, but now only a small percentage of people, companies send them back. And those that do are frequently, you know, a month and a half late, which is why there's always those giant revisions. Well, so how about we just stop?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like I said the other day, if the best thing you got to scare me about the government shutdown is the numbers not coming out today. All right, Well, I guess it's not as big a deal as I thought. I mean, it's even a smaller deal than I thought if that's your best scare me sort of story.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So you'll either use this number that Joe just described, or you'll wait like three days and get the number. Whoopty crap.

[Joe Getty]

How about I go to any college or university you name, find a grad student in a stats program and say, hey, can you take these four measures and like, come up with a unified number that people can understand for how the job market's doing? He'd say, yeah, give me three days and we would have it. The private sector, it'd be fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

It doesn't look like the shutdown's gonna end today.

[Joe Getty]

I don't care.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't care either. And they're not gonna vote over the weekend, which means don't or do.

[Joe Getty]

I don't care.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's gonna ruin my news flow because the mainstream news will continue. Can you continue to treat this like it's 9, 11 or something? And then Monday they'll vote again. So big flipping deal. Like I said, we got a lot more on the way. Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

Sean Diddy Combs is apologizing for his actions.

[Jack Armstrong]

In a letter to the judge, Combs.

[Joe Getty]

Saying he, quote, takes full responsibility and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Accountability for his actions, adding he's sorry for the hurt and pain he caused. Combs, his attorney pushing for a 14.

[Joe Getty]

Month sentence or time served. Prosecutors requesting more than 11 years.

[Jack Armstrong]

The judge will allow one of Combs's accusers to deliver a victim impact statement at the sentencing apologizing for his actions and showing full taking full response. I'm sorry about that. I don't know what I was thinking with the whole drugging and raping for years. I just, I lost my head, you.

[Joe Getty]

Know, and the beating, so many beatings. What was I thinking?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. I take full responsibility for the stuff that is on video of me doing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, something tells me you're about to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, no kidding. The actual responsibility, 14 months, that would be a travesty.

[Joe Getty]

So yeah, I doubt that's gonna happen. So a couple of tales of blue cities, some of the pearls of the West Coast. First of all, Portland briefly. Great writing in the New York Times. I'm sorry, the New York Post inside the antifa siege on in war zone Portland. Do you see the videos since the National Guard.

[Jack Armstrong]

You see the videos from last night?

[Joe Getty]

I finally did, yeah. Absolute violent insanity.

[Jack Armstrong]

Portland is out of control.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Violent antifa criminals writes the Post have laid Siege to the ICE detention center in Portland, Oregon for over 100 days. Every night the encampment of wackos blast loud music, engage in anti government chants over loudspeakers and megaphones violently clash with law enforcement officers reverberates around the neighborhood. And the word is the local cops have been told don't help the feds, they're on their own night order. That's right. And, and you know we can go big on the serious aspect of this another time, but I thought this was really interesting. They talk about antifa and defining antifa nailing down who's in antifa. They're intentionally decentralized and they carry burner phones. They have subgroups and stuff like, like revolutionary groups have for years and years and years read witnessed by Whitaker Chambers witness. That was the name of it, right? Anyway, most have no traceable online presence, carry burner phones, etc. Currently they occupy a city block and are reported to have set up a safe house on Lowell street in Portland for anyone in doubt. One person who's been around the antifa camp by the ICE facility explained, quote, most of them are on a lot of medication. They get very violent. It's crazy how violent it gets, especially at night as soon as it gets dark.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't realize that drugs played a role.

[Joe Getty]

They feel like they can get away with breaking the law.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you know why that world country at night, you know what makes them think that getting away with violating the law for years.

[Joe Getty]

But they, they talk about how a lot of it is illegal. Immigration activists, Hispanic types, but a lot of like angry, just post adolescent, Adderall addicted, you know, quirky white kids from the suburbs who've decided to become brave revolutionaries.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's interesting. Did, did you see that Apple took the ICE tracker app out of the store? You can't. They took it off, which they don't usually cooperate with, like law enforcement stuff, which I admire about Apple. But the government asked them to take that down because people were using the app and it had 1.1 million downloads. This app to where, you know, if you saw ice on your street corner or whatever, you could put it on the app to let people know where they were. And obviously the argument from the Trump White House was this was putting ICE officers in danger and etc.

[Joe Getty]

Etc.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Apple agreed to take it out of the store.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the rose city of Oregon is of Portland rather has become the antifa city. So let's move on to San Francisco. I thought this was interesting and it really illustrates the difference between liberty and license. Which license is a word that like political science people use and fancy writers in a way that nobody else uses. The word liberty means you can do what you want as long as you don't hurt other people or violate the norms of society or the law or whatever. License means you can do whatever the f you want and damn the consequences. Title of this is America's most dog friendly city has had enough and they have a lot of examples. Rose loves dogs. The violinist grew up with sled dogs in Alaska. She stops to pet dogs on the street. She had to rate her love on a scale of 1 to 10, it would be a 10. But Rose, 29, has started thinking maybe San Francisco is too dog friendly. Well, she and a friend were having coffee at Alamo Square Park, a lovely spot. The pair were approached by five different off leash dogs in an area that required dogs to be leashed. The final visitor, a golden retriever center over the edge. Quote, it literally launched itself at my Pastry got its mouth all over it and covered it with drool. The dog's owner saw the whole thing and just kept walking.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, God, you gotta be kidding. No, not even a sorry about that or I'll buy you another one. That's weak.

[Joe Getty]

Virginia may be for lovers, but San Francisco is for dog lovers. Sprawling green spaces, treats behind every shop counter, and beaches where canines can run and splash in the surf. But dog lovers, dog haters, and the dog neutral are finding themselves in an uncomfortable alliance against a contingent they say is exploited, avoiding the city's tolerance. This is the license thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm just so annoyed. I've always been annoyed by people who think their dogs are in control enough and then they aren't. Obviously very few dogs are. And then they just stand there and say, puffy, Puffy, stop it. Puffy, stop it right now. As their dog does whatever the hell wants.

[Joe Getty]

You read the writer's mind. Paws are up on the counters and coffee shops. No one flinches. Croissants being stolen out of the hands of hungry diners by hungry or black labs. The aisles of Target and Trader Joe's are full of service animals in quotes that can't seem to recall much, if.

[Jack Armstrong]

Any, of their training.

[Joe Getty]

That's some good sarcasm. And. And they quote a bunch of dog lovers. It's like you got dogs crapping everywhere, eating food off the table at restaurants. This is insane.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is insane. San Francisco has turned a corner. No more street people, at least around nice stores and gonna do something about the dogs everywhere. It's going the right direction.

[Joe Getty]

It's like the voters of San Francisco have finally found the courage to say there's such a thing as too much.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, okay. Which is good to know. Which is good to know for all the other cities that need to come to the same realization.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

He'S attacking you as a communist, are you?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I'm a democratic socialist. That means I believe in dignity for all people.

[Joe Getty]

It means more than that, idiots.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think you're not a communist. I agree with that. No, I'm not a communist.

[Joe Getty]

And I think, you know, a lot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of New Yorkers have asked me, what does it mean that you're a democratic socialist? And I tell them to think about the words of Dr. King from decades ago. He said, call it democracy or call it democratic socialism. There has to be a better distribution of wealth for all of God's children in this country. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

All right. Yay. Yay. We've read the platform of the Democratic Socialists of America. To you. It's open the borders, abolish capitalism, shut down the military, empty the prisons. He's a freaking communist.

[Jack Armstrong]

He announced yesterday that he will eliminate the gifted student program in New York public schools, which is a common move on the left to achieve equity. It's a common communist thing. You pursue equity by dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Zoran Mandani. All right. There's one of his brilliant supporters there. So that's interesting. There's a fight.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did you read the Douglas Murray piece yesterday about Republicans? Be careful what you wish for.

[Joe Getty]

No, sir.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because there's a lot of people, like, I think you and I have said this. Good. Elect him. Go ahead, give it a shot. Let him be the face of the Democratic Party for the next however many years. Good luck with that.

[Joe Getty]

Discredit their policies for another generation or two.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Douglas Murray's thing was. Yeah, well, he might get in power, and a lot of people follow him. And so the socialists have always been pretty successful with. Because even if the policies fail, blaming it on, well, we didn't go far enough. They didn't give us enough power or money. He said, that's the whole socialist thing. The only way it still exists is people saying, well, it hasn't been tried properly because every. Every place it's been tried, it's failed and usually led to deaths of tens of millions of people. But you get to say, well, it just hasn't been tried properly. He gets in office and runs that, well, we just haven't been able to do it all the way and could win a couple elections in a row and do some serious damage.

[Joe Getty]

Yikes. Yikes. So it's beyond question. There's a war for the soul of the Democratic Party going on right now. And while there's part of me that wants them to go ahead and be the party of Mumdani and aoc. I mean, to whatever extent they get power, it can. It ruins people's lives. I mean, think of all the super bright little kids in New York City who would be part of that gifted program. But they don't have rich parents, they can't really afford private schools, and they're depending on the government schools to stimulate them. Give them advanced math, science classes, the STEM stuff we're always hearing about. Well, Mamdani's gonna take all of that away, and you can't do a redo with that generation of kids anyway. Having said that, the clear voice on the other side of the Democratic Party is increasingly not dopey con man Gavin Newsom, but Rahm Emanuel, who published an opinion piece in the Journal that I referenced but didn't share with you. Democrats need an education reset. And I tell you what, America would be better if his voice becomes the dominant voice in Democratic politics. Never mind, you know, his sins of the past or whether he wins or loses. But he opens with describing that data that was released in September that we talked about. He said it should have lit Washington ablaze.

[Jack Armstrong]

The National Report Card.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Which tracks education results across the country, reveals student performance and is falling in math reading scores below where they were in 1992. As best as I can tell, he writes, neither the president nor the National Governor's association is treating this like the crisis it is. We should be as angry about the silence as we are about the scores. Actually, the Trump administration has talked about it, but the governor's part. Well, anyway, his point is, few things are more important than assuring every American student can read by third grade and do basic math by eighth. Then he takes a stupid shot. Republicans would rather privatize than fix our public education system. Well, that's because, Ron, we don't think it's fixable. Then, he says, and Democrats must realize that if money alone could solve the problem, every American student would be a National Merit Scholar. We've written too many blank checks, particularly following Covid, without ensuring results or accountability for the investment. We've spent the past five years debating pronouns without noticing that too many students can't tell you what a pronoun is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, that's a good one. That's a good line.

[Joe Getty]

And the US has been more focused on whether a school is named for Abraham Lincoln than whether students can tell you why he is an American giant. We've become so obsessed with bathroom access that we've ignored classroom excellence. I love that America has lost the plot. Democrats need to refocus on the fundamentals in the elementary years. When it comes to high school, we need to be pursuing fundamental reforms.

[Jack Armstrong]

He is 100% right. I wonder how much blowback he's been getting privately or. I'll bet it's the other way. More he doesn't care about the blowback. I guarantee you. I'll bet more he's getting big money. People who are saying, yes, you need to run. You can count on me. I will be a donor.

[Joe Getty]

Then he brags about the Chicago schools. Oh, oh, here you go. This is important. He says for decades, when pollsters asked voters which party they trusted more on education, Democrats maintained, on average, a 14 point advantage of more. Recently, that gap closed, then flipped to favor Republicans. That's in part because we made the grave error of refusing to reopen schools during the pandemic, even when the evidence suggested it was safe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I would vote for him over any other Democrat.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, he makes the point that you missed a chance with those kids. You cannot make that up.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, that is such a crime against humanity.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it really is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. I was just. I just had a little vision of him on the debate stage with Gavin Newsom, who was captain, shut down the schools. Let Rom just rip him a new hairpiece. Oh, yes, do it, Gavin. Get on the stage with Rahm Emanuel and talk about why it was important to keep the school shut down. Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

We're all.

[Jack Armstrong]

We all fall short sometimes. And Kamala.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. She won't get.

[Jack Armstrong]

As a friend. I'm not your friend, but if I were a friend, I would say don't. Don't get on a debate stage with Rahm Emanuel. Don't. Don't do that.

[Joe Getty]

Here's more. We drove up graduation rates and test scores by focusing. Oh, and that's in. In Chicago, the teachers unions brass disagreed with my approach. That's fine. The results speak for themselves. That's as close as he gets to really blasting the teachers unions. But it's notable. And he talks about how in Chicago, they just returned to fundamentals. He talks about the Mississippi miracle and how it's real. How is the Magnolia State risen from 49th to 9th? By not only discarding whole language literacy methods, but training teachers to employ the strategies that define the science of reading. Providing for tutors, summer literacy camps, holding schools accountable for testing results, and kids who can't read by the third grade are held back. This is classic. You know, I actually believe he believes this stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I do, too, because I've been following him for years. He's been saying this same sort of thing for forever.

[Joe Getty]

But interestingly, just as a guy who studies politics, it is just absolutely Bill Clinton triangulating. This is a Democrat bellowing that we gotta quit teaching the genderbred person and pretending these kids are learning. We need to get the teachers union to back the hell up. We need to teach fundamentals and phonics right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's going to be a formidable candidate.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

His biggest challenge is going to be getting through the Democratic primary. But.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, the Randy Weingartens of the world, they're polishing up their weaponry to go after him as quick as they can.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can he get enough normal Democrats in a primary to come out and say, we got to turn away from the AOC trans weirdos?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. I wonder. You know, the good news is, no matter what happens with Rom, unless he, like, gets swept aside and is seen as a joke, it's sad, but it's true. It's a lot easier for conservative ideas to catch hold and do the good that they're intended to do if you get some buy in from moderate Democrats and moderate people in the media. It just makes it easier. And so I love hearing Rahm Emanuel saying things that are plainly true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And such good news that if he ends up being the candidate, you know, if the Democrats end up winning the White House, that it's not a crazy person. It's not a Kamala Harris. It's not a Joe Biden. Well, I don't even know what Joe Biden was. Dementia ridden, for one thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. He was a puppet being manipulated by his young staffers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not a joke. Rahm Emanuel's not going to raise his hand on the debate stage with everybody else for free health care for illegals.

[Joe Getty]

Whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Free. Free sex changes for criminals in prison and all that stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Imagine a candidate who actually has principles and ideas on the Democratic side. Again, I don't love all of them, but, man, what an upgrade from Kamala and Biden. Good Lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like you said the other day, you end up with Rahm Emanuel and J.D. vance in a debate. Man, we have upgraded a lot.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on now.

[Joe Getty]

You are a simpleton.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, man, that is funny. Take a shot at it. Just do what you can. One thing I wanted to mention. Do I have time to mention it here?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do I want to? Yeah, probably.

[Joe Getty]

Does anybody really know what time it is?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I've given up.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Somebody marked the calendar.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got it up 10/3 down the wrote down the time end date on the politics conversations. I just had a bunch of notes and I thought I can't talk about it anymore. It's Friday.

[Joe Getty]

I heard that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was listening.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you know, I'm sorry. One more note on that San Francisco dog story that I found really interesting that we were talking about last segment. If you missed it, subscribe to the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand is a bunch of people say that not very long ago if a dog was misbehaving, the dog owners around and say hey man, that's not cool. You know, if we're going to have dogs here, we've got a blah blah blah. But they said Covid just any sense of social cohesion in the very, very blue San Francisco that shut down like crazy and et cetera, et cetera. Nobody says anything to anybody anymore. Now people just turn their back and say I'm not getting involved.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's surprising. You wouldn't think among adults that a couple of years of shutdown would alter your behavior that much, but apparently did.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I wish I had the expertise or wisdom to explain why that would be. It makes sense. But I don't know why. People just got disconnected from each other. Yeah, we forgot how to be people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump made a hell of a statement. He's made a drawn a line in the sand on the whole Hamas deal. Six o' clock east coast time, Sunday evening. Yes or no, Hamas or or Israel is going to release all hell with Trump's backing. That is what he said today and we got a little more on that among other things on the way.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

Forget this.

[Jacob Goldstein]

In a new video, the head of Instagram said, I swear we do not listen to your microphones. I want to believe them, but I just asked someone if Instagram is listening.

[Joe Getty]

To me and that video popped up.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Apparently Instagram doesn't listen to people through their microphones. Meanwhile, Apple and Amazon are like, just keep your head down.

[Joe Getty]

Don't make eye contact. Don't make eye contact.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just impossible to believe that the that if a company can listen to you or watch you that they're not.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right in, in the agree to terms thing that we all click on, it says, by the way, we'll lie to you constantly about whether we're monitoring you and you're going to take it.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. Okay. Updates on a couple of the wars that we've got skin in the game in. First of all, this. You know the big peace proposal that Trump put forward that everyone from Fox to NPR liked but Hamas needs to sign on to. Well, he has drawn a deadline. 6:00 D.C. time Sunday, yes or no. And he said in his long Truth social post Today more than 25,000 Hamas soldiers have already been killed. Most of the rest are surrounded and militarily trapped, just waiting for me to give the word go for their lives to be quickly extinguished. As for the rest, we know where you are, who you are, and you'll be hunted down and killed. Well, that's pretty unequivocal.

[Joe Getty]

It's not exactly Obama esque highfalutin rhetoric.

[Jack Armstrong]

Release the hostages, all of them now, including the bodies of those that are dead. An agreement must be reached by 6 o'. Clock. Every country is signed on. If this last chance agreement is not reached, all hell like no one has ever seen before will break out against Hamas. There will be peace in the Middle east one way or the other, Trump said. So that's quite a thing.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right. And what's really interesting, I heard a great podcast, the host was talking to a Israeli leader, not currently in charge, but and this person has dealt a lot with the governments around the region and all of the big ones, you know, mbs, Saudi Arabia, the uae, even Qatar are like, hey, if we could just kind of end this whole thing one way or the other, that would be fine. Then we can do business. We just can't deal with you while it's aflame.

[Jack Armstrong]

So on the other wall war that we have stake in, we mentioned earlier this week that Trump apparently has signed off on Tomahawk missiles which have an incredible range, more than 1200 miles, way beyond Moscow and into parts of Russia to be able to hit their energy sources. And that seems to be the plan for NATO. And the United States is backing that. The Telegraph reporting yesterday that oil production has been cut 37% in the last month with Ukraine going after Russia's oil Already. Already, yeah. So all that leads to this. This is in the New York Times. President Putin yesterday said that Russia had no plans to invade NATO countries amid alarm over confirmed and suspected Russian drone incursions. From Poland to Denmark. In recent weeks after the airspace violation, some European leaders have said that the continent has entered its most perilous moment in many decades. NATO nations are moving to beef up aerial defenses that they believe Russia has been probing for weaknesses. Speaking at an international relations conference in Russia, Putin lashed out at European elites for whipping up the hysteria about the Russian threat. It looks as if a war with the Russians is just around the corner. They keep repeating this mantra over and over again, he said in televised remarks. That is classic Putin. That's the sort of thing he did leading up to invading Ukraine. Sure, they're calling for this. They're creating the historia hysteria because he's, you know, assembling the troops and doing all the things, and then he ends up doing the thing that they were being hysterical about. Turns out it wasn't hysteria, it was proper caution. But I thought it was interesting. Mark Halperin's analysis of that from the New York Times was the story of NATO pretending Russia hasn't triggered articles 4 and 5 remains the biggest story on the planet besides everything China. I thought that was interesting. So article four is the. Any country in NATO can call a meeting of everyone, which you'd have thought would happen around all of this multiple times. And then Article 5 being, if one is attacked, all are attacked, because, like, three or four different nations have had what you could definitely describe as an attack if you wanted to, by Russia.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Wow. Definitely is on the edge of something that could spiral out of control, no doubt.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, if his oil has been decimated that much and Trump is talking about, go ahead, go after the infrastructure, oil infrastructure, the energy infrastructure, and we're giving him missiles to hit it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

There isn't, isn't going to be no pushback on that.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Although what form the pushback takes is. Is the critical question. Of course, you know, as Stalin often said, take your bayonet and, and, and, and test where you find a mush push, where you find steel, withdraw. And, you know, I, I know some of you in good conscience think, look, it's Ukraine. Doesn't matter to the U.S. you know, it's Europe. We, we can't worry about it. We're going to escalate and call cause World War iii. Now, there are plenty of people who, and we can still be friends who think you let Putin get away with it, you guarantee more horror to come.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, it's going to get more exciting, though, in the next couple of weeks. Unless you think Putin's going to say, well, I guess they're serious about this. I better back off.

[Joe Getty]

He's running out of oil and men.

[Jack Armstrong]

And maybe political support.

[Joe Getty]

As you've often said, if something can't go on forever, it will end, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, those are two exciting stories to follow for the entire weekend.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it was more fun talking about dogs stealing people's donuts or the new Taylor Swift album.

[Jack Armstrong]

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