Stupid, Stupid Babies

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Stupid, Stupid Babies
Date: February 6, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand moves through a range of current events, criminal investigations, the oddities of public participation in naming animals, and the psychology of human nature. With their trademark mix of irreverence and sharp analysis, Jack and Joe reflect on serious issues—most notably the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie—before pivoting to lighter cultural observations. The tone is brisk, sometimes darkly comic, and always skeptical of official narratives and public groupthink.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie: Investigation Analysis

[02:46–11:58, 39:33–41:33]

• The episode opens with analysis of the high-profile kidnapping case of Nancy Guthrie, focusing on law enforcement strategies and media coverage.
• Former FBI negotiator Christopher O'Leary provides expert insight:
  • Police and Media Strategy:
    • "There's a delicate balance between informing the public and soliciting their assistance because there's millions of eyes... but also not tipping your hand." (Christopher O'Leary, 02:46)
  • Frequency of Kidnappings:
    • The FBI deals with kidnappings almost weekly, mostly outside the U.S., but domestic kidnappings are rare.
    • "They deal with another kidnapping every week." (Jack Armstrong, 04:44)
  • Evidence & Family Elimination:
    • Family or close associates are often quickly ruled out in such investigations.
  • Sophistication of the Crime:
    • Disabled doorbell cameras suggest some level of planning, and proximity to the Mexico border raises speculation about cross-border criminal elements.
    • "The doorbell camera was disabled... suggests a certain level of sophistication here from the captors." (Christopher O’Leary, 06:20)
  • No Communication with Kidnappers:
    • "We don't have a line of communication established with the captors right now. And that needs to change..." (Christopher O'Leary, 05:14)
  • Nature of the Crime and its Tragic Banality:
    • The hosts suggest that many such tragic events are the result of impulsive acts by "half wits," not criminal masterminds.
    • "Some half wit who gets immediately overwhelmed and realized they bit off way more than—horrible, horrible, horrible." (Jack Armstrong, 09:41)
  • Disproportionality Paradox:
    • Jack brings up how disproportionate events (like assassinations or serious crimes) are often the result of deeply mediocre individuals, leading to public attempts to invent conspiracies that "fit" the dramatic outcome.
    • "So many assassinations or major moments in history are half wit loners who do something extreme and people can't comprehend something that stupid and small... so they invent, you know, great conspiracies." (Jack Armstrong, 10:16)

2. The Psychology of Crime & Media Sensationalism

[11:58–12:12, 39:33–41:33]

• Armstrong & Getty vent frustration with the way media "rides the story," filling airtime with speculation and inconsequential footage (e.g., a reporter driving between suspects’ houses).
  • "That's some thin gruel—We're gonna ride in a car between the two houses so you can see the actual road?" (Joe Getty, 40:18)
  • They note, often the outcome of such stories is deeply unsatisfying—irrational actors causing tragic results, not criminal masterminds.

3. The Baby Elephant Naming Fiasco

[13:12–15:46]

• Segue to a lighthearted segment about the National Zoo’s new baby elephant and the pitfalls of public voting on animal names.
  • They recall famous internet naming disasters: "Mr. Splashy Pants," "Boaty McBoatface," etc.
  • The zoo is restricting the vote to pre-approved names to avoid meme chaos.
  • "Ivory Trunkerson" and "Trunky McTrunkFace" are offered as humorous alternatives.
  • "The zoo is apparently not interested in America for Trunky McTrunkface." (Zoo Announcer, 14:11)

4. Woke History & the Rewriting of George Washington

[18:47–22:51]

• Jack dives into the controversy over the re-interpretation of the President’s House site in Philadelphia by the National Park Service.
  • He skewers the modern focus on Washington’s status as a slaveholder to the exclusion of his foundational contribution.
  • "The entire site was about Washington being a slave owner... It described his actions as deplorable, profoundly disturbing, and having mocked the nation's pretense to be a beacon of liberty." (Jack Armstrong, 19:56)
  • They argue adults should be able to process the complexity of history, not erase it.
  • "Why can't you deal with those two things existing at the same time?" (Joe Getty, 21:30)
  • Armstrong rails against activists seeking to "separate people from their history and their truth." (Jack Armstrong, 21:42)

5. Epstein Scandal: Why Did Elites Stand by Him?

[22:52–33:13]

• The show touches on British political fallout from Epstein ties, specifically regarding Peter Mandelson and the potential for the scandal to bring down a Prime Minister.
  • "This dude isn't accused of sex stuff, right? It's bribe stuff." (Joe Getty, 26:13)
• Discussion turns to why high-profile individuals continued associating with Jeffrey Epstein after his 2008 conviction.
  • Armstrong suggests the answer is often mundane and self-serving: friendships maintained for access, social connections, luxury, and favors, rather than complex conspiracies.
  • "You might want to stay friends with that person...you meet all sorts of rich and famous people and you might want to stay friends with that person." (Jack Armstrong, 27:28)
  • They reference emails where people rationalized Epstein’s behavior and detail Machiavellian PR efforts to downplay the scandal, even among left intellectuals like Noam Chomsky.
  • "Noam Chomsky, the wokest of the woke...says, 'It's none of your business,' but he still stayed in contact." (paraphrased, 31:48)
• Human nature:
  • "You can rationalize things in your head when you really want them..." (Joe Getty, 32:22)

6. Babies, Rhythm, and the Development of Music Appreciation

[41:53–45:33]

• The episode closes on a surprisingly scientific note, discussing new research showing newborns can sense rhythm but not melody.
  • "Babies are born ready for rhythm, while melody takes time." (Jack Armstrong, 42:36)
  • "Two-day old babies can already sense when a musical beat is off, but their brain shows little sign of tracking melodies." (re: study, 43:44)
  • Armstrong & Getty use the data as a launching pad for jokes at the expense of drummers and the stereotype that exposing infants to classical music creates prodigies:
    • "So what you're saying is— even babies can play the drums?" (Joe Getty, 44:33)
  • Their conclusion: play whatever you like—there’s no harm, but don’t expect your child to emerge a genius because of Mozart in the womb.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Police Press Conferences:

  • "That's about the best analyst I've heard so far on this stuff. He's not a showman...not a blabbering jackass." (Jack Armstrong, 03:34)

• On Human Nature and Tragedy:

  • "Most of the time these stories have just such a disappointing what a waste ending. They hurt your soul." (Joe Getty, 09:49)

• On Media Sensationalism:

  • "You gotta keep the waves going to keep people interested in the story, because there's interest here." (Jack Armstrong, 39:53)

• On Disproportionality Paradox:

  • "People can't comprehend something that stupid and small...having an effect that gargantuan and so they invent, you know, great conspiracies..." (Jack Armstrong, 10:16)

• On Human Rationalization (Epstein segment):

  • "You can rationalize things in your head when you really want them...and we, and apparently we all can do that." (Joe Getty, 32:22)

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Important Timestamps

• 06:20 – Doorbell camera detail & speculation regarding sophistication and cross-border crime
• 07:19 – Location significance: Tucson’s proximity to border
• 10:16 – Disproportionality paradox explained
• 13:12–15:46 – Baby elephant naming segment & public naming disasters
• 18:47–22:51 – Critique of historical revisionism at the President’s House in Philadelphia
• 26:13 – Epstein political fallout in the UK
• 27:28 – Why the rich stayed friends with Epstein
• 31:48 – Noam Chomsky’s response to being contacted by Epstein
• 32:22 – Human capacity for rationalization
• 41:53–45:33 – Babies’ sense of rhythm vs. melody, jokes about drummers

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a quintessential Armstrong & Getty mix: hard-nosed skepticism, world-weary humor, light cultural absurdity, and pointed questions about the motives of both institutions and individuals. There’s pathos in their discussion of the kidnapping; cynicism in their take on both political scandal and public naming contests; and a dismissive but gentle ribbing of society’s most earnest parental attempts.

**If you missed the episode, you’ll come away informed on:

• The facts and speculation surrounding a headline kidnapping
• The unglamorous reality behind major crimes and scandals
• A hilarious rundown of error-prone public animal naming
• The truth behind “baby genius” musical development claims**

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Next time, expect clips of the week, more AI news, and the same blend of skepticism and wit.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Christopher O'Leary]

There's a lot not being said and that's intentional. There's a delicate balance between informing the public and soliciting their assistance because there's millions of eyes in the United States that can share leads with the FBI, which is desperately needed, but also not tipping your hand. So everything that's being said is being engineered by the Crisis Negotiation Unit, which is specialized unit out of Quantico, Virginia.

[Joe Getty]

That's a little analysis on MSNBC this morning of the investigation into the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. Why is Fox got a correspondent in a car with a camera driving between Annie Guthrie daughter and Nancy Guthrie's house right now? What are they speculating about there?

[Jack Armstrong]

I have no idea. The voice you heard was Christopher o'. Leary. He was addressing, in part the bashing of the police chief for his press conferences and that Jack has referenced several times recently. It's real amateur hour there. He said nothing at the press conference. The criticism on cable TV and in other places. He was trying to explain. No, there's a lot you don't want to say, which is interesting. This guy's about the best analysis analyst I've heard so far on this stuff. He's. He's not a showman. He's not a, you know, a blabbering jackass. Speaking of blabbering jackasses, the rich and famous who continued their relationships with Jeffrey Epstein. Why? What was the motivation? I think it was not nearly as mysterious as people think. Anyway, back to Christopher o'. Leary. Next clip. Michael.

[Christopher O'Leary]

Unfortunately, they have a ton of experience at that. There are really kidnaps for ransom almost every week that they deal with, usually in places like Mexico, Central America, South America, across Africa. But they're used to these rapidly evolving crises and engaging with the captors.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he's talking about the Crisis Negotiation Unit that he'd referenced earlier. That's interesting. They deal with another kidnapping every week.

[Joe Getty]

Although that includes other countries. Because when he first said that, I thought, holy crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

But okay, yeah, Americans in those other countries.

[Joe Getty]

But we didn't mention that. They confirmed the red droplets on the front steps were Mom's blood. They confirmed that yesterday. That's not good. Yeah, that's definitely not good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next clip.

[Joe Getty]

Michael.

[Christopher O'Leary]

The one concerning thing is we don't have a line of communication established with the captors right now. And that needs to change because you cannot negotiate this release. And certainly with the serious concerns about Mrs. Guthrie's advanced years and medical conditions that have been stated. Those are things you want to get ahead of. And time is of the essence right now.

[Joe Getty]

You know, what I'd really like to know, and they probably shouldn't tell us, but I'd like to know how often kidnappers are successful with this. They get the money, they return the person, and they get away with it. I wonder how often in the US Specifically, in the United States. I gotta think it's very, very low.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would guess so. It's increasing because of cryptocurrency.

[Joe Getty]

That's gotta help.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. So he mentions at fair length that family members or close associates are pretty easy to rule out. And then in. We'll skip to 44, Michael, he starts to discuss who might be behind this.

[Christopher O'Leary]

Then you look at the M.O. here. The doorbell camera was disabled, which shows a. Or suggests a certain level of sophistication here from the captors. So who, you know, in the history of kidnapped for ransom has that capability? Is it somebody that we think is local or. What the concern is amongst some colleagues that I've talked to is with the proximity to the border, is this potentially. And not suggesting it is, but something investigators will look at that she was potentially taken by a Mexican kidnap for ransom organization who do this fairly routinely. And so the FBI being brought in here, number one, has the authorities to do this both domestically, across state lines, but internationally. And they also have the reach and the connections and the bandwidth to do it. So they are most certainly discussing things with intelligence partners and our Mexican counterparts as well.

[Joe Getty]

Well, if you don't know your US Geography, Tucson's right on the border, so it'd be nothing to get across the border. But I just, you know, he's the expert. But on one hand, okay, they disconnected the camera. Sounds like pros. Well, wouldn't. Wouldn't pros have a better way to get in touch with somebody and ask for money as opposed to whatever's going on right now?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, there's a disconnect there. I. You know, some loser idiot might also think, yeah, I gotta make sure she doesn't have one of those doorbells.

[Joe Getty]

That doesn't sound hugely sophisticated. I might think of that. And I've never contemplated a kidnapping in my life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. I've contemplated various pranks and acts of vengeance. Certainly. I think about that all day long. But, yeah, I'm aware that there are doorbell cameras in the world, so. And then he mentions it's. There's really no doubt it's an abduction. 84 year olds just don't start bleeding and then disappear completely and then finally.

[Christopher O'Leary]

46 Michael the other thing is, did somebody have a personal grievance against her? There's nothing to suggest that. She sounds like a wonderful woman who is beloved. So who would have a personal grievance against her? And I do think NBC corporate security, which is staffed by a bunch of former FBI and Secret Service are working with the team on the ground to determine if Savannah had any previous threats or stalkers or anything and they couldn't get to her but are looking at Mrs. Guthrie as a target of opportunity.

[Joe Getty]

I was listening to an expert yesterday who said oldsters don't get kidnapped very often but every once in a while it happens. And they had an example of I think an 88 year old who got kidnapped last year and was gone for like a whole week but returned safely and they were okay. So it can happen. The blood is not a good sign. Also the fact that she needs various medicines. If I was going to guess and I realize this is really harsh to say, but if I was going to guess half wit grabs an old woman, doesn't think it through. She dies because she needs this medicine. And now they're like okay, now what? Oh crap. And they figure out a way to dispose the body. It'll turn up maybe five years from now in a desert hole somewhere or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well that's more specific than I'm willing to get. But yeah, some half wit who gets immediately overwhelmed and realized they bit off way more than horrible, horrible, horrible horrible.

[Joe Getty]

Most of the time all these stories have just such a disappointing what a waste ending. I they are always such a, you know, they hurt your soul because yeah, there's all this excitement and talk about these sophisticated this or that that gives it a level of something meaning I guess. And then when it turns out to just be a freaking idiot with a bad plan and now somebody's dead or really hurt.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just so why. Why'd you even do it?

[Hunter Woodhull]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

2 thoughts on that one I read just an absolute great piece. It'll stick with me for all of my days. I'm pretty sure about how it's the disproportionality paradox I think they called it that so many assassinations or major moments in history of are half wit loners who do something extreme and people can't comprehend something that stupid and small. A person that stupid and small having an effect that gargantuan and so they invent, you know, great conspiracies that are proportional to the effect. And that's really common.

[Joe Getty]

The idiot that killed Charlie Kirk. You kind of feel like a guy like Charlie Kirk deserves a better story.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

For his assassination than this idiot.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I've told this story before, but it made a hell of an impression on me as a young man. Mike Royko was a brilliant columnist for the Chicago Tribune. He was robbed at gunpoint on the street. Guy stuck a gun in his face. And Royko, who had fought in World War II, started a family, raised children, built a career, etc. Really influential guy. Really well thought of. I loved him. Said this stupid idiot loser has the power to end my life. And it's about to happen. That's just wrong. And that was the overwhelming emotion he was feeling. It is disproportionality paradox.

[Joe Getty]

That is wrong. And that's where the just painful grief comes from and how.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's why we've got to punish the crap out of people who do that sort of thing. Lefties, Marxists, blue states and cities. All right, now I'm angry.

[Joe Getty]

Got a completely different thing after this. Somebody came up with a good name for the elephant. Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

So they're Opening up the naming of a baby elephant at the zoo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, kind of.

[Joe Getty]

With the full understanding that you can't trust people. They'll come up with names like Bodhi McBait, Boatface or whatever. Anyway, somebody suggested Ivory Trunkerson. Ivory Trunk is pretty good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ivory Trunkerson, ladies and gentlemen.

[Joe Getty]

Ivory Trunkinson. You know, I was so amused by that thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stampy McTrunk face. Do you have that handy?

[Joe Getty]

That Tony Coppola thing? It's short. It's pretty funny. Could you play that again? Yeah, I could hear it again. Name in the elephant. You can't trust people.

[Jack Armstrong]

25.

[Zoo Announcer]

The National Zoo has welcomed a new baby elephant. The first there in 25 years. Described as alert and bright eyed, weighing in at 308 pounds at birth. Fans can now vote to name the new elephant on the zoo's website. But we all know how this sort of thing has gone in the past. When Greenpeace asked for help naming an endangered whale in 2007, Mr. Splashypants is what the public chose. Then we got Bodie McBoatface in 2016, when the United Kingdom asked the public to vote on names for our research vessel. Of all things that inspired the Australian racehorse named yes, Horsey McHorse Face. Lessons have been learned and the National Zoo is asking for the public's help. But naming this beautiful new elephant. But you only get to choose between four options the zoo has already approved. The zoo is apparently not interested in America. For trunky MC trunk face.

[Joe Getty]

Mr. Splashy Pants. You're going to end up with more and more amused zoo goers with Ivory Trunkerson or whatever banal name you chose.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is a Swahili name for elephants. This is one of your four possibilities.

[Joe Getty]

It indicates the majesty and the whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, Katie, the four possibilities are weak too.

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Are they?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I sent them over. They're.

[Joe Getty]

They're weak.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Christopher O'Leary]

I'm not surprised.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of them means you've got apricot blossom. What? Lynn? My spirit blossom.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, Just like Joe predicted, Town knee.

[Jack Armstrong]

Means gentle and beloved.

[Joe Getty]

They all have to be some sort of meaningful to Ang. Traditionally means snow, referencing your winter birth. All right, whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's all Vietnamese words. Lame again. I thought this was a merc. We're naming America. All right. Trunky mctrunk Face.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Elephants are immigrating and taking our zoo jobs.

[Joe Getty]

Well, we actually have interesting stuff out of the Epstein files and it might bring down a prime minister in Great Britain. Isn't that something? I say more on that a little.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bit later and a lot of stuff.

[Joe Getty]

On the way Stay here Armstrong and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Getty.

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[Hunter Woodhull]

And I'm U.S. paralympic gold medalist Hunter Woodhull.

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As Joe mentioned earlier in the show, he's got some more practically every day interesting AI stuff to tell you about, including some major investments by big companies.

[Jack Armstrong]

And how much of the economy is kind of linked into those giant investments. So stay tuned. This is so interesting. I mentioned this, I don't know like a week ago, but I did dug more into it and I was just astounded by it. The National Park Service runs the the President's House in Philadelphia. It's where Washington and Adams lived as presidents back when that was the capital. But the entire historical experience was turned, woke up. And here's what I'm talking about. And by the way, Josh Shapiro was against the fixing of this. So the entire site was about Washington being a slave owner. One side declared the site has been transformed into a space that honors the lives of those enslaved. And then this writer says, when I interviewed Ken Burns, asked who was the greatest hero in the documentary the American Revolution, he said, oh, without a question, it's George Washington. We don't have a country without him.

[Joe Getty]

Definitely the. What is that word they always use? The guy we couldn't live without. Indispensable man, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

The President's House site features ruins of the house. It was mostly torn down in 1832. It did not emphasize Washington's heroic virtues or actions because he had brought several slaves north with him as president. It described his actions as deplorable, profoundly disturbing, and having mocked the nation's pretense to be a beacon of liberty, he and the other founders were accused of injustice and immorality. Sign headings read Washington's deceit and Washington's death and a renewed hope for freedom. Meanwhile, visitors were told that enslaved labor played a dominant role in the nation's economy and even that slaves built the nation. An extensive slavery timeline neglected to mention the Civil War. The site not only ignored Washington's role in shaping the young republic, but failed to present his actual views and actions regarding slavery. Such an account would note he was a slaveholder, but also that he declared the gradual elimination of slavery to be among my first wishes. It would mention his role in drafting the Fairfax resolves in Mount Vernon 1774, which condemned the slave trade as a wicked, cruel and unnatural one and called for putting an entire stop to it.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know why people can't deal with this. I really don't. Well, most people can. It's just somehow the people that can't or don't want to deal with it, like grown ups end up in charge of the Plaques.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, can't deal with what is grown ups.

[Joe Getty]

Slavery existed.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you gotta.

[Joe Getty]

You gotta give credit to the dude who formed this whole country and all the things he did. How can you not deal with those two things existing at the same time?

[Jack Armstrong]

But.

[Joe Getty]

But emphasize the fact that the father of our country played this role.

[Jack Armstrong]

But again, you got two groups of people. You've got the soft heads you're thinking about. The activists know precisely what they're doing. You've got to portray George Washington as merely a devil. You've got to separate people from their history and their truth. The Marxists know precisely what.

[Joe Getty]

But the fact that we allow that to happen is so frustrating.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's why Marxists always use quasi moral arguments because they know people will hear them and think, well, I want to be a good person. So I guess I agree with that. And they fall for the hardcore activists, you know, plots. It's a perfect example of this. Disgusting. Speaking of disgusting and Trump trying to.

[Joe Getty]

Get rid of that is seen as, you know, evil. Book burner. Nazi something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. In fact, Josh Shapiro said it's an effort to rewrite and whitewash our history. And you just lost my vote, jackass. Speaking of jackasses and immorality, people who stuck with Jeffrey Epstein. Why? I don't think it's the Israelis or anything mysterious. I think it's that they liked the lifestyle.

[Joe Getty]

Do you think it's class? More than anything else.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stay with us, Armstrong and Getty.

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London's Metropolitan Police launching a criminal probe into allegations of misconduct when Peter Mandelson was in the late 2000s.

[Jack Armstrong]

But the Prime Minister's judgment is also now under scrutiny. I regret appointing him. If I knew then what I know.

[Joe Getty]

Now, he would never have been anywhere near government.

[Jack Armstrong]

Given the fallout.

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There is also the question of what.

[Jack Armstrong]

Epstein was doing and why.

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

The Polish government is now investigating whether Russian intelligence services may have been involved.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy, they're talking about Peter Mandelson there. He's a British high official in the Labour Party. And as I mentioned earlier, this guy has been booted out of office now three times for serious scandal, including, you know, find it not like he was rude to somebody in an elevator, like insider information and betrayal of the British people and all, but they keep dragging him back.

[Joe Getty]

But so this.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish I knew more about it.

[Joe Getty]

First of all, watchers of British politics believe this might actually bring down the prime minister of the scandal. And this dude isn't accused of sex stuff, right? It's bribe stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's where it gets really interesting and brings us pretty directly Back to what we were talking about earlier, and I wanted to continue why people stuck with Epstein after he was convicted of the initial underage prostitution, soliciting, trafficking thing and then was accused of and investigated for, and was going to be tried for even more serious charges. And I know a lot of people have all sorts of wild spy, you know, drenched, you know, theories and all, but in reading a bunch of these, and we've got a different group of them now, it strikes me as. Here's how I illustrate it. So you got a friend, you know, you just. You're friendly with it. You like them. Okay. But that's it. Then you got a friend who. You like them, and they have their own plane. And sometimes, I don't know what's your pleasure? For me, it'd be. Sometimes they take their plane to really cool golf courses a couple of states away, and you all play golf and blah, blah, blah. And then you fly back and it's really, really cool. Maybe you like to go to New York for the theater. Whatever. You have a friend who says, yeah, hey, I'm taking the Gulf Stream to New York to catch the latest show that I have tickets for. You want to come? You might put up with a little more of, you know, he smacks his lips when he eats his food or she eats her. And imagine if somebody had so much wealth and connections, they could connect you to, well, a private resort island where all the pleasures of life are available. You don't pay a dime, probably. You meet all sorts of rich and famous and interesting people, and you might want to stay friends with that person. For instance, British billionaire Richard.

[Joe Getty]

And then occasionally he throws in things like, hey, your son's going to college. You know, I know some people. Where's he wanting to go? And then gets him into Georgetown or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, happy to write a letter. I know the. The president of the university. I'll just. You know what?

[Joe Getty]

I'll call him.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're thinking, wow. Yeah. And as was described. Who was it? Was it Mark Halpern? Somebody a good journalist might have been. Yeah. Halpern was talking to what's her face, the. The skinny blonde gal who's gone crazy and gone. Tucker Carlson.

[Joe Getty]

Megyn Kelly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Megyn Kelly, right about he. He. You would literally be invited to a dinner party with Bill Gates and Katie Couric when she was at the height of their fame. They were at the height of their fame. Anyway, so billionaire Richard Branson wrote to Epstein in 2013 after hosting him at one of his giant estates. It was really nice Seeing you today. The boys in water sports can't stop speaking about it. Anytime you're in the area would love to see you as long as you bring your harem, he wrote. Branson then outlined outlined a public relations strategy centered on Bill Gates. He suggested Gates could say publicly that Epstein had been a brilliant advisor. That Epstein, quote, slipped up many years ago by sleeping with a 17 and a half year old woman and was punished for it.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that Epstein quote, had more than learned your lesson and done nothing. That's against the law since. And yes, as a single man, you seem to have a penchant for women, but there's nothing wrong with that. Now, a spokeswoman for Branson said Epstein used the word harem to refer to adult women's. He brought women he brought along. And Branson wouldn't have used it if you knew of his crimes. This was in 2013. Keep in mind after he'd already been convicted and done time. She said Branson supports rehabilitating former offenders and made a general comment Epstein about moving on. Richard believes Epstein's actions were abhorrent and supports the right to justice for as many victims. She said, now here's a super prominent woman lawyer now, I've heard that presented.

[Joe Getty]

As when he said harem, that's 100%. He was talking about underage girls. Well, that's not obvious.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, that's not proof of anything. Steve Bannon, the former Trump White House strategist, oh maga. Pushed a more aggressive approach than the lady lawyer who was trying to help him rehabilitate his image. In June of 2018, Bannon messaged Epstein with an urgent assessment. Who is running this op on you? Something serious going on? It's an op, dude. I do this for a living. The pieces that are dropping are deeply researched. This is a sophisticated op. Five months later, the Miami Herald published Perversion of justice, interviewing Epstein victims on the record and raising questions about Epstein's lenient plea deal back in the earlier 2000s.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's interesting. Who did, who did make that decision to go after Epstein?

[Jack Armstrong]

By early 2019, Epstein, Bannon were in regular contact about strategy. Epstein asked Bannon whether to respond publicly and how Banton council restraint warning that public engagement would only extend the news cycle. No comment from Bannon since then. You got Noam Chomsky again of What? In the February 19th when all of this was. The really ugly stuff was coming to light. Freaking chompsy.

[Joe Getty]

The Noam Chomsky, the wokest of the woke the. I mean fully believes all that microaggression BS and all the language policing and all that stuff, he's okay with helping this guy get out of trouble.

[Jack Armstrong]

In February of 2019, Epstein received the message from Chomsky, who also wrote, blah, blah, blah. I've watched the horrible way you are being treated in the press and public. It's painful to say, but I think the best way to proceed is to ignore. Ignore it. Less than a year prior, Epstein had transferred about $270,000 to the former MIT professor who said in 2023 the transfer involved movement of his own funds and wasn't a payment from Epstein. When asked about his relationship with Epstein, Chomsky told the Wall Street Journal, first response is that it is none of your business or anyone's. Second is that I knew him and we met occasionally and he wouldn't comment beyond that.

[Joe Getty]

One troubling facet of human nature that seems to be pretty true for a lot of people, most people is you can rationalize things in your head when you really want them, when you want a certain result. It seems like we all can do that. And I don't know from an evolutionary standpoint why we have the ability to do that. But if you really want this job, relationship, chunk of cash, house outcome in a trial, whatever it is, you can rationalize all kinds of things that you might initially known were wrong or bad, but you twist in your head some sort of convoluted logic to come up with a way to get there. And we, and apparently we all can do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Some a little and some a ton, I think. Yeah. Now, if we take a fairly timely break, there's all sorts of interesting news from the world of AI we could touch on if we want.

[Joe Getty]

I love the idea of that. We got a late night joke off about the Olympics I'd like to get to at some point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's do that.

[Joe Getty]

So stay tuned.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

We will get to some of that AI stuff at some point. We got a whole nother hour of show left. Hour four that we will get to, which will include clips of the week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's your keep you interested note from the AI thing. They're spending zillions of dollars and there are a lot of companies spending tremendous amounts of money. A lot of it's borrowed and a lot of it's borrowed from banks, including big banks. And a lot of the companies that are going to be decimated perhaps by AI are borrowing big from big banks. What if that all went curblooie? Anyway, stay tuned.

[Joe Getty]

So the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics tonight Looking forward to that. I always like watching that. I don't know why. I get a kick out of watching young people from all these different countries and, you know, so, so excited to be there. You know, United States, you become a big star and you're playing in front of dry scouts. But most of these athletes from these little countries, they've never been in a, in a stadium like that full of people and all that sort of stuff. I just love that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and a lot of the American kids are in obscure sports, too. And then you see our big team in the red, white and blue. It's fun. But yeah, countries march out and you're like, that's a country. And they got two guys. But those guys are super excited.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very. It's kind of charming. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, the late night talk show hosts tried to make some jokes out of the Olympics. And we do this thing where we, we gather all the different jokes and have a late night joke off. How does this work?

[Jack Armstrong]

Joe, Jack. I will be grading each attempt at humor and the bottom grade getter will be banned from comedy for life. Let's hear Michael.

[Joe Getty]

The opening ceremonies for the Winter Olympics. The most accomplished amateur athletes from all the countries in the world who hate us are gathered in Italy right now. I'll tell you, nothing gets me going more than spandex clad Lithuanians on a nine hour tape delay. The Winter Olympics opening ceremony.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

And speed skater Aaron Jackson and bobsledder Frank Del Duca will be the flag bearers for Team usa.

[Jack Armstrong]

Erin says she's thrilled while Frank said.

[Joe Getty]

It'Ll be tough to perform without three.

[Jack Armstrong]

Other guys pressed against him. You know, Kimmel, shockingly, with an A minus. It started bad, but it got better. Fallon with a C. And that's generous because I like him.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Myers winning with an A. Congratulations. Seth Meyers. That was the biathletes. That was short and punchy. Jimmy. I'm sorry. Jimmy, you're banned from comedy for life.

[Joe Getty]

So the last. I don't know how many opening ceremonies have included Savannah Guthrie of NBC. And she's not going to be there tonight for obvious reasons. Do you think they'll reference that at all? Is it just such a downer that you. I don't know how you handle it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think they will. I think they will say something to the effect of our colleague Savannah Guthrie was supposed to be here. I think we all know the ordeal our family's going through and want her to know she's in our thoughts and prayers.

[Joe Getty]

So here's Al Roker.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Here's Al Roker and spandex clad Lithuanians. You don't think they'd say, if you have any information on the case, call such and such a number? That'd be too much. I think. I think.

[Joe Getty]

Used to be Matt Lauer and Savannah Guthrie all the time. Then he got caught in a sex scandal. You don't think they'll throw in. I think the brother in law did it. You don't think they'll throw that in?

[Jack Armstrong]

I doubt it.

[Joe Getty]

So why do you think so? I mentioned this earlier. So I'm watching Fox and they had a reporter in a car driving from brother in law's house to missing mom's house the entire way and talking about how far it is, how close it is, what the roads are like, what are they. What are they suggesting there?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if I have no idea. I just. I'm reminded of an old boss of ours many, many years ago who said, these stories, you gotta. It's like waves in Malibu. Now, I'd never spent a single second of my life in Malibu at that point, and I had no idea what he's talking about. But he said, you know, sometimes there's big waves. Some days there's little waves, sometimes they're tiny waves. But you got to keep the waves going to keep people interested in the story, because there's interest here.

[Joe Getty]

That's some. Well, there is interest in the story, no doubt, but that's some thin gruel of. We're gonna ride in a car between the two houses so you can see the actual road. Okay. This gives me nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're gonna show you the neighborhood. We're gonna drive you along the route that the kidnapper almost certainly took, as it's the only way out of the subdivision. That sort of thing. That's what they'll go with.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The biggest news yesterday to me was those red droplets were her blood. That is bad news. I mean, the fact that she was bleeding as she was taken out of the house. Not good, you know?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, no, it's not good. Of course it's not good. You get somebody that old, they. They wouldn't take much of a Jocelyn before they were bleeding a little bit. I don't know how much blood there was, but. Yeah, it's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. Anyway, I want this in music. I wonder how he's not done. Never mind.

[Joe Getty]

I wonder how many days we all hang on to this story because we could be at the end of new information very quickly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like already trail could grow Cold. Yeah. Yeah, that would be horrible. But it's certainly possible.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Again, I call for transition music.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that sounds fascinating. But it's too late for me, as I think I've mentioned. So on the other end of the life scale, Katie came up with this. We actually the other day on the Armstrong you getty one more thing podcast, we had an absolutely charming conversation, in my opinion, about babies, laughter, and that scientists are finally starting to recognize laughing as a significant developmental milestone and then trying to provoke laughter as another milestone. The more you think about it, the more you realize, oh, my God. That's an incredibly sophisticated thing for a creature's brain to do. Yeah, that's a milestone. Thought it was wonderful. Anyway, another one. Newborns. Well, here's the headline, which oddly sounds like the line to a song. Babies are born ready for rhythm, while melody takes time. Actually, you get a the rhythm was off. Their melody takes time. Anyway, According to a study, newborns can predict musical beats within the first two days of life.

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[Jack Armstrong]

How did they figure that out? They gave them drumsticks, put them behind the drum set. Get busy, kid. Play along. All right. But the brain showed no response to melodic patterns. Stupid, stupid babies. They had 49 babies listening to Bach piano pieces while scientists measured their brain waves using EEG technology.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, is this bad news? For parents that I know in the kind of town I live in who played classical music for their baby with the idea that that was going to turn them into geniuses?

[Jack Armstrong]

It probably won't. But two day old babies can already sense when a musical beat is off, but their brain shows little sign of tracking melodies. That's the main finding from research that recorded brain activity in 49 sleeping newborns while classical piano music played through tiny earphones.

[Joe Getty]

The best part of that story is your newborn is sleeping. So take a nap or clean the kitchen.

[Jack Armstrong]

You study them if you want. I'm grabbing a nap. Yeah. Scientists discovered that babies enter the world ready to groove to rhythm. But learning to appreciate a tune takes much more time. Study helps explain why parents instinctively rock, bounce, and sway with fussy infants. Babies appear especially tuned to rhythm. I think we've known that for a long time. It's because there's a sway in the in utero. The, you know, the summary of it is really all you need to know.

[Joe Getty]

So this is a shot at drummers. So what you're saying is even babies can play the drums?

[Jack Armstrong]

What do you call an idiot who hangs around musicians? Yes. That's so not fair. The physical structures needed for processing pitch also takes time to mature. Adult brains can distinguish subtle frequency differences and weave multiple notes into melodic patterns. Newborn brains can hear that notes are different, but they can't predict what note might come next based on melody. That's a more sophisticated skill that likely develops because they've heard melodies. So I don't there's no downside to playing Bach through your belly? Oh, surely.

[Joe Getty]

Bok of course not. I'm mostly Bad Bunny is what I would play. That's what you should go with.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie.

[Joe Getty]

Lots of Bad Bunny.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever. Thanks.

[Joe Getty]

Whatever gets your kid going.

[Jack Armstrong]

You could play Nirvana's In Utero in case your baby has a sense of humor and irony.

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