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Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Get.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, so we're going to put up on the screen a few of the things that are part of your platform. And I want to ask you just give me sort of a true or false on these Abolish the Senate.
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Jack Armstrong
Okay. Replace the presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them.
Commentator/Analyst
Yep.
Jack Armstrong
Abolish ice.
Commentator/Analyst
Absolutely.
Jack Armstrong
Abolish borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the US Illegally. As a long term plan. Yep. Defund the Pentagon. Absolutely. Abolish prisons. At least in large part. Yeah. Again, that is part of a long term program.
Glen Washington
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, so no prisons, government or public ownership of most large corporations.
Joe Getty
Yeah, absolutely. So somebody, I forget, Jesse Single. I don't know who this person was, but they tweeted this out. That lady you were just listening to from the dsa, her name is Romer and he had this fake script here. Hey, Ms. Romer, it's John Bailey. I'm producer at FOX News Sunday. Any interest in coming on this week? I don't know. What will we discuss? We'd like your help recording a campaign ad for every Republican candidate in every election for free. Yes, I'd love to. Wow.
Commentator/Analyst
Yeah, because no kidding, that's a pretty good description. It has been gratifying to me and a little bit surprising that especially the Democratic Party in the lefty media has in the space of 10 days gone from complete radio silence on the DSA to sweet mother of God, these people threaten everything we hold dear. And it's funny, I've often said the left is so much more disciplined and not necessarily in a good way with their messaging. They don't go against the, the permanent omnicause unless they're given permission to. And evidently that permission's gone out because they're, they're talking about it.
Tony Ayo
Well.
Commentator/Analyst
And we'll bring you noted lefty commentator Joe Scarborough in moments.
Joe Getty
I suppose some of it might be this is not good for the country and communism and is an evil force that will kill millions. But I think a lot of it is they're going to take over our party and we're going to lose seats.
Commentator/Analyst
Oh, I would never assume good motives for the Democratic Party or the Republican Party for that matter. Alexandria Hoff on Special Report with Brett Baer talking about part of the reason
Joe Getty
the alarms are going off.
Jack Armstrong
These ideas are no longer on the fringe. We're over 120,000 members now, up from 6,000 when Senator Bernie Sanders first brought Democratic socialism to the main stage of the Democrat Party. Now There are over 250 DSA candidates holding elected office nationwide in about 35 PRIM wins across the board this year alone.
Joe Getty
We're talking about refashioning an entire society.
Jack Armstrong
In May, Democrat socialist Chris Robb prevailed in a crowded primary to represent Pennsylvania's third U.S. congressional district. The establishment Democrats should be worried about the voters and about what the voters think and about what the constituency think.
Joe Getty
There are 250 Communists holding office across the country. Now there are got to be hundreds of thousands of offices across the country. But 250 communists actually won.
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Commentator/Analyst
Right. And what was her memorial? She made a point. Oh, if anybody is left who doesn't think our primary system is kind of screwed up. I'm hoping this drives that point home. But more from Alexandria Hoff.
Jack Armstrong
The latest Fox News Polling shows that 38% of registered voters under 30 find socialism favorable. Stu Smith with the free market think tank Manhattan Institute feels that many who find socialism appealing are misunderstanding what it actually looks like.
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews Representative
A lot of people inside DSA who are maybe younger think that this is
Commentator/Analyst
just what people would call like Nordic style socialism.
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews Representative
And that's not really the case whatsoever.
Jack Armstrong
Countries like Denmark, Norway and Sweden are social democracies that rely on thriving capitalist economies. The DSA explicitly calls for ending private enterprises.
Joe Getty
Remember we had that clip last week of that dude who thought socialism meant socializing. That's what he thought the party was. You know, it's funny. Hang out with your friends and watch ball games. What's wrong with socialism?
Commentator/Analyst
I guess we're gonna end like capitalism, because I've heard that's mean. But it's fun. We play board games. Oh, boy, oh, boy. Do you want to set up Jose Scarborough?
Joe Getty
Oh, I was just happy to see Joe Scarborough on Morning Joe today. He jumped in with. They played the clip of the yes, no questions from the woman representing the dsa. And Scarborough was like, whoa, Democrats, watch out, here we go.
Commentator/Analyst
Democrats, Democrats, Democrats. The national co chair of the DSA went on television and showed us exactly who she is and what her party believes. Abolish the U.S. senate. The presidency as we know it. The Supreme Court as we know it. True. Abolish ice. Absolutely. Open the borders. Defund the Pentagon. Empty the prisons. Have the government seize private companies. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. If Democrats want to make America more affordable, more fair and more free, and I think they do, they better speak truth to its most extreme base or they're going to let a small faction of radicals drive more people toward Donald Trump. Because always about Schumer, Akeem Jeffries, every other Democrat in Washington, D.C. make no mistake of it. If you don't define your party today, Donald Trump will be sure to define it in November.
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews Representative
Okay.
Joe Getty
It's just not good enough. That communism killed more people in the 20th century than any. All the wars added together. That's not good enough. It's got to be. This will help Trump.
Commentator/Analyst
I'm speechless. But for that reason, the fact that
Joe Getty
they're calling out it is bad. So, you know, you bring this up a lot. And it seems to be true that Marxists lie. That's how they get where they want. I'm surprised that woman went on there and asked those yes, answered those yes no questions as directly as she did that she didn't like obfuscate a little more.
Commentator/Analyst
Yeah, that is interesting. It's a bit of a tangent. That sort of tangent I love just because I love this sort of thing and have studied it for years. But I think she feels like her young energized constituency agrees with all that
Joe Getty
stuff and it just answered cool when she said that.
Commentator/Analyst
Well, and they feel very much on the front foot and I think there's some hubris there. I think you're right. I think it's probably a bit of a miscalculation from their evil, evil, evil point of view. But so I promised you this and I want to pay it off. And more and more people are becoming aware of this and I am gratified by it. The so called Red Green alliance that really saw not its birth but its most significant early days in the Iranian revolution where leftists, communists hated the Shah, wanted to overthrow him and the Islamists who wanted Sharia law and women in veils and the rest of it wanted to overthrow the Shah. And they got together. And this is one guy who writes and teaches about the Middle East. He writes, during the Iranian revolution, leftist students, communists and Muslims were all united in overthrowing the Shah. The leftists celebrated when Khamenei returned in 1979. And then there's a picture of the time of two young women, they look to be college age or maybe just out of college, leaning out of a car in Tehran, smiling ear to ear with victory signs. And it was part of a parade of cars, honking their horns and everything. And the two women are lovely gals, they're just like Western college students. I just wanted to set that up. But then they mentioned the communists, thought they had defeated capitalism and imperialism. It didn't last long. Over 30,000 leftists who helped the Islamic regime consolidate power were soon executed. That's the term where the term useful idiots comes from. They served their purpose and were no longer needed. Muslims had always despised their progressive ideals and couldn't wait to get rid of them. One of the women celebrating in the picture was killed by the regime. The other fled the country for her life. It's bizarre that almost 50 years later, Western leftists are making this exact same mistake and allying with Muslims, they will have the same fate. And then, interestingly, one of the replies to this was a series of photos contrasting Afghanistan in 1970, where there are women dressed in Western garb in a Lab in Afghanistan 2012, where they are in the full beekeeper outfit, not allowed to go to elementary school. Iran in the 1970s, there's men and women enjoying themselves on a Beach. Iran 2012. There they are in the beekeeper outfit with no rights. And then interestingly, editorial New York City 2021 with the obvious. New York City 2050 or 30, they say. And it's the women, the beekeepers and the rest of it. Whether that can happen here or not, I don't know.
Joe Getty
I saw one yesterday in the town I live in. Woman in the full beekeeper outfit, just looking through the little eye slot, hundred degrees outside and she's walking down the sidewalk completely covered in black, looking out that little slit.
Commentator/Analyst
And so many of the folks in your liberal enclave think that's beautiful, that's a beautiful culture. They get to do what they want to do. And the that it's a woman who is enslaved just doesn't.
Joe Getty
I know the whole figuring out who ranks where on stuff because I live in the kind of town where, you know, it's all about the patriarchy, this male dominated that and. But you're okay with that woman walking down the street. You think that's perfectly fine because of your multi multicultural view or anti American view or whatever. It's so nuts.
Commentator/Analyst
If a Baptist said a woman should submit to her husband, they would go berserk.
Joe Getty
That woman is walking down the street with a giant sign that says I'm being abused, used by a man. That's what she's doing and nobody cares.
Commentator/Analyst
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Joe Getty
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International Fellowship of Christians and Jews Representative
Oh Lord.
Joe Getty
It's news you can use. I'd like to. I'd like to know it. What could happen? Drink more water. I'm going to drink so much water today after reading these and the Atlantic is out with a piece today. Gavin Newsom. Remember the chick that Gavin Newsom was having sex with his best friend's wife? She's got a big story in the Atlantic today that's getting all kinds of coverage. Yeah, why? Why? Is the question. So we got a lot of stuff to get to.
Commentator/Analyst
Stick around Armstrong and get.
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Joe Getty
north beach and then have sex in a private back room. At the bar. Gavin Newsom and this woman who's got a piece out in the Atlantic today day and we'll talk more about that coming up in a little bit. It's just we're all human.
Commentator/Analyst
We all fall short.
Joe Getty
Sometimes I think it's a meaningless story as to whether or not Gavin Newsom should or would be president the United States. But it's juicy so we'll talk about it coming up.
Commentator/Analyst
Useful idiot is a term that most people believe Vladimir Lenin coined, has to do with folks who enable the cause of, say, communism without fully understanding the goals. And they're ruthlessly used by the leaders who and then discard them when the goals are Achieved. Once you get power, the last thing you want around you is a bunch of revolutionaries, because if they don't like what you're doing, they will kill you and take over. Which is why every communist revolution in history, Cuba, et al, as soon as power is consolidated, that's when the executions start. And often it's the person closest to the number one who get executed first. Anyway, having set the table with that Zoran Mumdani, I've been wondering a little bit. I've called him an Islamist because he's clearly an Islamist at heart, but also a dedicated communist and which is his real goal? Because the Red Green alliance, one wins and the other guys get executed. And here's. Here's a hint. Zoram Mondami just sat down for a productive meeting, quote unquote, with MAS New York, MAS Brooklyn and MAS Youth Center, AKA the Muslim Brotherhood operating in America. This is the same Muslim American society, the MAS, that produced and platforms Abdullah Akl, the Within Our Lifetime leader, who stood on October 7th of 2025, the second anniversary of the slaughter in Israel in Manhattan, declared that they didn't act enough and will show up stronger than the first. October 7th. Remember this invitation to a jihadi organization steeped in Muslim Brotherhood and open anti Jewish activism comes days after a Jewish man was stabbed on the Upper west side by an attacker screaming Alua Akbar. This is the same ACOL who led crowds chanting for Hamas to strike strike Tel Aviv, who celebrates Intifada and who operates openly under the Muslim American Society banner while spewing open contempt for Jews and non Muslims. MAS is not some benign community group. They are founded in 93, is the public American arm of the Muslim Brotherhood. And then they go into a great deal of detail about their very impressive hardcore jihadi bona fides and financing and the rest. Now Mamdani, who before taking office regularly showed up at WOL rallies, that's within our lifetime. And led its chances hosting the very network that incubates this hatred. And their wish list is about what you'd think among Islamists.
Joe Getty
So you think that he's more of a fundamentalist Islam guy than a communist?
Commentator/Analyst
I suspect so, yeah. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Heck of a thing that you can slip that in. You can get elected being a communist because we're so friendly to that right now that you can slip in your fundamentalist Islam.
Commentator/Analyst
Well, they're much better at making social economic arguments that young college graduates fall for. And again, I could tell you the specific statistics, but take my word for this, his core of support and like almost all of it. Not quite. But the bulk of it is college graduates who are not in the first couple of quintiles of earning. It's disappointed college graduates.
Joe Getty
Downwardly mobile is the hot term for this crowd.
Commentator/Analyst
Right. And they tend to cluster in hot urban areas and like New York City. But to your question though, about is he at his in his heart as an Islamist or a communist? I'm searching my memory banks for examples of serious, serious Muslims who truly embrace communism and mean it. And I'm not coming up with much because they always embrace Islam then and Sharia and what do you call it when the religion is in charge, that system. Whereas I can picture plenty of Islamists who pretend to be communists.
Joe Getty
And there's a lot of, a lot of these Islamist states were friendly with the Soviet Union back in the day, but that was all just alignment against the United States, the West, their ideologies didn't have to match up.
Commentator/Analyst
You know more about the, the Bolshevik Revolution than I did. Did the Bolsheviks embrace some of the Muslims in the southern parts of the Soviet area? I can't think of hardcore communists who. Seriously? Yeah, no, I think he's an Islamist.
Tony Ayo
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Well, that's really interesting if that turns out to be true. That's a heck of a thing to keep your eye on also.
Commentator/Analyst
Yeah, yeah, we've got to get into
Joe Getty
more of the Anthony Fauci diary stuff, but we've also got the sex life of Gavin Newsom to talk about, so stick around.
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Wherever you get your podcasts, the headlines, they move on.
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But the heartache and the terror they do not. Iran and its terrorist proxies are continuing to target Israel. Hezbollah continues its attacks in the north, forcing families to live under constant threat. But Israel is not only defending her people, she is standing on the front lines against terror that threatens us all. Even when the news crews leave the international fellowship of Christians and Jews, they remain. Every day they are on the ground providing life saving aid. Now, near Israel's border with Lebanon, a Hezbollah drone recently struck the home of of Yelena. Widowed earlier this year and living alone, she was trapped inside by the blast. Thankfully, she was not injured, but she remained displaced. It's hard these days, she says. But I don't want to leave. Well, as Christians, we are called to stand with God's people and pray for those defending Israel and protecting the freedoms we hold dear. I want you to join the international fellowship of Christians and Jews in praying for the peace of Jerusalem and for the soldiers, families and civilians carrying the burden of this fight right now. Visit prayifcj.org that's pray ifcj.org Two people
Commentator/Analyst
in New York City were stabbed in broad daylight by a man yelling Allah Akbar. Cops arrested him, but not before the
Joe Getty
mayor gave him the key to the city. Oh.
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews Representative
Oh,
Joe Getty
I'm kind of interested. Michael's got a great Gutfeld joke for last night that he doesn't want to air until we've had a chance to listen to it first because it's so edgy. I mean, it aired on Fox for old people like my parents.
Commentator/Analyst
That's A good point.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Are you willing to roll the dice? You want to roll the dice and just.
Commentator/Analyst
There. There's not an FCC violation in there, is there, Michael?
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews Representative
I don't know.
Joe Getty
Okay. Sakes. Okay, we'll have it next segment. I'll listen to it and have it next segment. So we talked about this a lot at the time because we have been on the air in San Francisco for several decades now. And we actually did an event or two with Gavin Newsom back in the day. We're the same age, we were all early 40 somethings. He was mayor of San Francisco, etc. Etc. We were big time radio stars and. And he was not the giant time politician that he is now with, you know, his sights on the White House. He was a young mayor of San Francisco. Well, we talked about it a lot. The time when he had. He and Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom had split up. He was single at the time that he was having this affair with a married woman who happened to be married to, if not of his best friend, one of his best friends and certainly one of his closest people to his life because the guy was chief of staff and ran his campaign. So, I mean, guy he was really close with. So he was having an affair that
Commentator/Analyst
day when, you know, the guy's on the road or busy or whatever.
Joe Getty
And it broke out into public. And Gavin Newsome, he had a press conference, got a lot of attention. I remember we talked about it a ton. We played the audio here. He came out and he said, everything you've read and heard is true. I did this. And in his own book, his own memoir. What, what is Gavin Newsom's book? Where he's standing there in black and white, looking off into the distance.
Commentator/Analyst
Young man in a hurry.
Joe Getty
Young man in a hurry. He talks about in that book how it was the worst betrayal he was ever guilty of in his life and he's disappointed in himself for having done it. He was drinking a ton at the time. So was this woman who's got a piece in the Atlantic today. So she's never really said much about it. Her name is Ruby Rippy. And a piece in the Atlantic comes out today. And let me go to that screenshot
Commentator/Analyst
from a piece of bleep to a piece of journalism, the Ruby Rippy Story.
Joe Getty
I don't know why I keep saying the Atlantic. It's Vanity Fair. Regardless, you know, what difference does it make, honey? Or it's called How I. It's funny I said that. It's how I blew up then Rebuilt, Built My Life by Ruby Rippey. It's an essay, first person essay that she wrote that's all about her and her life. And I'm more than suspicious of this, like, needing to come out now and all this sort of stuff, I mean, because she's a nobody. She was. She. She. She was. At the time when news of her affair with Gavin Newsom exploded into the public eye, it was only the outward mark of a long, rippling private implosion. In the wreckage of the scandal, Ruby Rippy faced her demons, but lost her voice. Twenty years later, she's ready to share her story, is what they say in Vanity Fair.
Commentator/Analyst
So I guess I don't care. Nobody cares, except as it applies to Gabby Boy.
Joe Getty
And they're, they're in their books. There's memoirs, there's movies about people blowing up their lives and rebuilding it, and sometimes that's interesting to people. And. And she was. She was drinking too much and doing too much cocaine and out of control. He was drinking too much. By his own admission. He stopped drinking for a long time because of this. And. And they. And they started having an affair. But like you said earlier, it sounds like one of those inoculation things like they tried to do with Graham Platner there, where you get it out there
Commentator/Analyst
in a weakened version.
Joe Getty
In a weakened version, I guess. I don't know. There's really nothing else to learn about this. I just don't even see the point of this whatsoever.
Commentator/Analyst
Get it out there. So people say, yeah, I've already heard about that. But the real version is much stronger, like in the Platner story where the New York Times buried rape because they kind of like Platner.
Joe Getty
Ms. Rippy, 54, has rarely spoken publicly of the affair, but it was the talk of San Francisco in 2007 when Mr. Newsom stood before reporters and said, everything you heard and read is true. He explained that he'd had an affair with Ms. Rippy, the wife of Alex Torque, close friend, reelection campaign manager, et cetera. In her essay, Ms. Rippy does not use Mr. Newsom's name at all. That's kind of interesting. But she describes him as the mayor of San Francisco. In a man often described as Kennedy esque, she seems to blame herself for betraying her husband. Yeah, you should. And says that her life spiraled as she drank heavily and used cocaine. She also appears to blame Mr. Newsome for holding so much power over her and for proceeding with the affair anyway. You see, he was not supposed to, as a single guy, have Sex with this woman who was willing to have sex with him because of their power dynamics. I don't believe in that sort of crap. So either you do or you don't.
Commentator/Analyst
Not only that, but Gavin Newsom didn't make a vow to your husband, baby.
Tony Ayo
She writes.
Commentator/Analyst
Well, they kind of did, by penis friend, but now that I think about
Joe Getty
it, she writes that the relationship began in the summer of 2005 and span for months with off and on encounters. I always go to him. His penthouse in Russian Hill. A private back room at a North beach bar. That one's the tawdriest. The W Hotel in Los Angeles, you know, the Penthouse, the W Hotel. That's pretty high flying, high dollar, classy affair. The back room at a bar. Not quite so much.
Commentator/Analyst
They sit on this keg.
Joe Getty
Oh, my God. We meet and we drink. There is sex, but it isn't the point. She continues. The point is proximity to power, being chosen, which might be. I don't know. Maybe that's what turned her on. Okay, I, I just. I. I've never thought this was cool.
Tony Ayo
The.
Joe Getty
The Hollywood set does this a lot, or the, The. The. The famous set does this a lot. You put out books listing all the people you had sex with. What is that?
Commentator/Analyst
They're telling us all about it. Yeah.
Joe Getty
What kind of behavior is that? It's just to sell books.
Jack Armstrong
I just.
Joe Getty
Seems like an odd thing. It is despicable for all kinds of different reasons. It's despicable, right? I mean, unless, you know, unless it's rape.
Commentator/Analyst
If you.
Joe Getty
If you willingly engaged in, most of the time in these memoirs and tawdry things, you willingly engage with going around and telling everybody about it who thinks that's cool.
Commentator/Analyst
If you were to reach out to your former paramour and say, hey, I'm writing a memoir and you were really an important part of my life. I just wanted to give you a heads up. Is it cool if I go here, there and there?
Tony Ayo
But it's.
Glen Washington
It's.
Commentator/Analyst
You know, there's a fabulous song by what's her name? Car Wheels on a Gravel Road.
Joe Getty
Lucinda Williams.
Commentator/Analyst
Lucinda Williams, yeah. And it's. It's a breakup song and a heartbreak song. And the point of it is. Please don't tell our secrets, because the end of a romantic relationship in my moral code does not imply. Now we get to tell each other secrets or the intimacies we exchange. That is, again, the D word. Despicable.
Joe Getty
Right? Yeah.
Tony Ayo
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
That's not cool. Not cool, especially. Is she getting paid by Vanity Fair for this or someone. Oh, I've got a little more on that in just a second. This part is kind of interesting. By the time the affair became public knowledge in early 2007, Mr. Newsom was already dating Jennifer Siebel, who became his wife, who caused her own brouhaha. The New York Times writes, by publicly dismissing the affair as a couple of nothing incidents. Which, you know, what are you supposed to do? You start dating a guy, his previous sex life? What are you supposed to. What are you supposed to do when you're asked by the press? I'm on her side. At least so far.
Commentator/Analyst
Or is that what motivated her to get into encouraging little boys to have their genitals removed? Maybe that's why she's such an activist in that.
Joe Getty
But Siebel called Ms. Rippy the culprit. Ms. Siebel later apologized for the remarks. I think it's like the cops sometimes call it mutual combat. You don't need to have a culprit in this. You both. You're both getting drunk and having sex. There's. Is there a good guy, bad guy? Are you both bad guys? I don't know how you look at it, but you're both the same thing. Whatever you want to label it.
Commentator/Analyst
When the idea of hottie Jennifer Siebel saying of her hottie man who she's getting together with, and again, the power that he has and all, oh, yeah, some slut just came on to him, and it was totally on her. Okay, all right.
Joe Getty
Newsom said he addressed this chapter of his life, include in his memoir out of respect for everyone involved. He doesn't have anything further to add. I think politically that's a good idea. Also, just think from a being a decent human being, there's no reason to say any more about this for your friend's sake, for her sake. I mean, what, why, why. Why would you talk about this at all? Here's the part I like, though. Ms. Rippy was not immediately available on Tuesday morning for comment. That seems like a mistake. I think you're. You should be sitting by your phone and commenting to the New York Times and everyone else who's reaching out to you. She's being represented by Dini Von Moofling, a public relations strategist who also worked with Monica Lewinsky. And.
Commentator/Analyst
Come on.
Joe Getty
This is the funny one. Come on. So this woman worked with Monica Lewinsky who, you know, put out a book and made some money off of this. So I think that might be the angle here.
Glen Washington
But.
Joe Getty
But then it's a dumb idea. To not answer your phone. But anyhow. So this publicist worked with Monica. Monica Lewinsky and Kristin Cabot. You might not remember the name. The woman seen on a kiss cam being held by her married boss at a Coldplay concert.
Commentator/Analyst
Yeah, yeah.
Glen Washington
This.
Commentator/Analyst
This chick we're talking about is like this super heavyweight of Manhattan crisis publicists. She makes zillions of dollars,
Joe Getty
but there's no. There was. The. The Coldplay woman had an active crisis going on. And I could see how you might turn to an expert. How am I supposed to deal with this? Ms. Rippey didn't have an active crisis going on. Nobody was thinking about this at all. It was not in the News. It happened 20 years ago. Is over and done. Everything had been said about it. Why did you get her now, if not to make money off of it or to help inoculate Gavin? Maybe they paid him her. I don't know how that works. That's a great question. Well, that's Gavin's wife. Mr. Turk. That would be Gavin's best friend who got cuckolded. Mr. Turk did not immediately return a text and email seeking comment. Yeah, I wouldn't either. Oh, I'd love to talk about this. Oh, you mean that period of time where my best friend was having sex with my wife every night and I didn't know it?
Commentator/Analyst
Yeah, when we had a little kid. Yes, Sometimes I bring it up myself.
Joe Getty
I would love to talk about that. Endlessly. Oh, my God. Ms. Rippy says in Vanity Fair that she considered writing a memoir. I would have read that cover to cover after the affair became public. But that Kamala Harris, then the city's district attorney advisor, to say nothing and take time to gain perspective. It turns out to be the best advice I received. Miserably said so. Luckily, Kamala Harris came to the rescue.
Commentator/Analyst
Kamala gave her a little bit on how to please a man as well.
Joe Getty
Now, the rep. The affair, if you remember, was raised by Newsom's opponents during his 2018 run run for governor. And at the time, Ms. Rippy wrote on Facebook that she did not see it as part of the growing MeToo movement because while she was a subordinate, she was also a 33 year old married woman and mother who was free thinking. In other words, I take responsibility for my own actions. Now, years later, maybe for profit in Vanity Fair, she says she was a victim of whatever power.
Commentator/Analyst
Hell, I'm doing this for profit. I don't. You know, who am I to judge? Hey, a word from our friends at Incogni. I don't mind anybody making a profit. Unless it's these damn data brokers who probably know who you're sleeping with. They've certainly got your home address, your cell number, your email address, your kids, your medical condition, your age, how you vote. And they sell it. And that's why you're getting scammed and spammed all the time. But Incog knows how to slow it down or stop it.
Joe Getty
It's really disgusting if you think about it. A multi billion dollar industry where people package all of your details of your life and sell it to people. And it's out there. But Incogni can get it. Off they go broker by broker and force each one to delete your file. Those opt out forms that are buried, Incogni finds them. And when your data tries to creep back, Incogni wipes it again.
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Joe Getty
Incogni.com Armstrong I think I've come up with the thing that got her angry enough to do this Vanity Fair piece. In Newsom's memoir, which just came out a year ago, Newsom discussed it in two paragraphs, calling their relationship the stupidest and briefest of affairs. I think she probably thought, yeah, it seemed like a big deal to me. I thought we were something thing. And that's pretty hurtful. So f you.
Commentator/Analyst
Oh wow. That's got to be it.
Joe Getty
I'll bet it is.
Commentator/Analyst
Woman scorned. Yes.
Joe Getty
Well, and maybe, you know, you wouldn't like if, if it, if it felt like a, you know, a serious something for her at the time. She wouldn't like it. Called brief and stupid. Who would like that?
Commentator/Analyst
Ouch.
Joe Getty
Yeah, you're brief and stupid. Get out of here. Any thoughts that? Text line 415295 KFTC Armstrong and Gettysburg
Glen Washington
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going to play the incredibly edgy and probably not appropriate joke from great Goodfeld in just a little bit. So stay tuned for that. That will be this segment. A little more on this.
Commentator/Analyst
I have not sanctioned this for the record.
Joe Getty
A little more on this Vanity Fair piece with the lady that Gavin Newsom had an affair with his friend's wife. You know that story. I don't know what she's doing here. I don't know if she's doing it for profit or if she's trying to help other alcoholics or whatever. If she is, I don't know why you're dragging Gavin in so much much. Two things I thought were interesting. She was bothered in the memoir that he called it stupid and brief affair that that probably was very hurtful to her if it seemed like more to her at the time. She also took issue with Gavin's portrayal in the memoir of how he'd owned up to his role in the affair. He wrote that he had come clean to Mr. Turk. That's her husband, his friend, which she felt mistakenly gives him credit for something that I'd already done. So she's saying, yeah, I'd already told him about the fair. You at that point admitting it is not really. You don't get credit for that.
Glen Washington
Right.
Joe Getty
Or were you gonna deny it at that point? So I could see how that could kind of make you mad.
Commentator/Analyst
These people make me want to take a shower.
Joe Getty
She says that she and her husband divorced over this, which is too bad. And they had a kid.
Glen Washington
Did.
Joe Getty
She writes that she and Mr. Turk divorced, co parented their son. She said it took more than a decade for Mr. Turk to look her in the eye after the affair, more than 10 years before he would even look her in the eye. That is rough. I think this is a non story. You know everything you need to know and you either care about that or not. But the most vicious attacks come in primaries from people in your own party. Party is a Shapiro or Kamala Harris or somebody going to have Rippy on stage and convince her that she was somehow really wronged because their difference in power dynamics and it's practically rape really.
Commentator/Analyst
And I mean exactly AOC going there. Maybe somebody like that.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it'd be helpful for a woman to do it probably. But I don't know. It's either a story or it's not. Okay, here's my justification for the gut filled joke which is definitely not the classist of jokes. I think it's. I'm putting it in the newsworthy category. I think it's interesting that the number one show, the number one talk show in America, Greg Gutfeld, who beats Colbert and Jimmy Fallon and Kimmel on a regular basis, and his audience is old and conservative. My parents are part of the audience. Old and conservative. That this joke apparently is okay for that crowd. Here we go.
Commentator/Analyst
Meanwhile, Kamala is only at 5% among Democratic nominees. The last time she went down on a poll this fast, it belonged to Willie Brown.
Joe Getty
Applause I'm just trying to picture my mom sitting on the couch laughing to that or not. Or pretending she didn't hear it or
Glen Washington
what
Commentator/Analyst
she and your dad threw their heads back.
Joe Getty
Well, they're both listening right now, I guarantee you. So I don't know how they're here.
Commentator/Analyst
Shout out, guys.
Tony Ayo
Hey.
Commentator/Analyst
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
Isn't that interesting, though? I mean, because if, I mean, we're not like the program director types ourselves where they always tell you, you know, your audience is a 28 year old woman that's in her, in her minivan taking her kids to school and she doesn't appreciate that sort of salty talk. I have to believe when they were crafting a show for primetime on Fox, they weren't thinking, you know what our old conservative audience really loves? Pornographic sex jokes.
Commentator/Analyst
Right, right. Well, part of Gutfeld's act, which I've I was a little late to appreciate, is he knows how sledgehammer y.
Joe Getty
Right? Oh, yeah.
Commentator/Analyst
Those jokes are over the top is
Joe Getty
part of the deal.
Commentator/Analyst
Yeah, right, exactly. But still, I objected to it as a humorist, not as a question of taste. It's just I could see that punchline coming from mil way.
Joe Getty
Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, that's where we are.
Commentator/Analyst
A great discussion of why younger people are not having kids. Speaking of the the act of love. And so much more next hour, including we've talked about Mondami's grocery store. What about the whole list of second property owners and the witch hunt for them?
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Date: July 28, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts
This episode dives into the alarming rise and mainstreaming of Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) policy positions, their electoral success, and the hosts’ concerns about radical policies infiltrating the mainstream Democratic party. The conversation also explores the historical pitfalls of revolutionary alliances, notably the so-called “Red-Green Alliance,” and critiques the recent Vanity Fair essay resurfacing the Gavin Newsom affair scandal. The episode weaves through political analysis, pop culture commentary, and the ethics of memoir confessions.
“It has been gratifying to me and a little bit surprising that … the Democratic Party has … gone from complete radio silence on the DSA to ‘sweet mother of God, these people threaten everything we hold dear,’” – Commentator/Analyst (03:48)
Rising Favorability and Misunderstanding
Hosts’ Satirical Perspective
“Remember we had that clip last week of that dude who thought socialism meant socializing … Hang out with your friends and watch ball games. What’s wrong with socialism?” – Joe Getty (06:43)
Joe Scarborough Clip Reaction
“If you don’t define your party today, Donald Trump will be sure to define it in November.” – Joe Scarborough, quoted by Commentator/Analyst (07:23–08:37)
Hosts’ Analysis
“It’s just not good enough that communism killed more people in the 20th century than all the wars added together. That’s not good enough. It’s got to be: ‘This will help Trump.’” – Joe Getty (08:37)
Red-Green Alliance Historical Analogy
Armstrong details the Iranian revolution alliance between leftists and Islamists, which ended with the Islamists executing their leftist allies (“useful idiots”).
Quote:
“Over 30,000 leftists who helped the Islamic regime consolidate power were soon executed. That’s where the term useful idiots comes from. They served their purpose and were no longer needed.” – Joe Getty, summarizing (10:46)
Modern leftists may be repeating the same mistake, allying with groups whose ultimate objectives are incompatible or mutually destructive.
Women's Rights Contradictions
“If a Baptist said a woman should submit to her husband, they would go berserk. That woman is walking down the street with a giant sign that says I’m being abused, used by a man … and nobody cares.” – Joe Getty (12:52–13:03)
Gavin Newsom/Ruby Rippey Scandal Resurfaces
Essay Details & Critiques
Rippey doesn’t mention Newsom by name in the essay, refers to “the mayor of San Francisco … often described as Kennedy-esque” (32:08).
Essay frames her as a victim of power dynamics, which the hosts dispute:
“He was not supposed to, as a single guy, have sex with this woman who was willing to have sex with him because of their power dynamics. I don’t believe in that sort of crap.” – Joe Getty (32:56)
Hosts discuss the morality and privacy of public confessions:
“The end of a romantic relationship in my moral code does not imply now we get to tell each other secrets. That is … despicable.” – Commentator/Analyst (35:19)
The “victim” framing is questioned, given Rippey’s own prior statements about taking responsibility.
Public Relations Angle
Personal Fallout & Reactions
On the DSA’s Candidness:
“I’m surprised that woman went on there and ... answered those yes or no questions as directly as she did, that she didn’t like obfuscate a little more.” – Joe Getty (08:52)
On the Red-Green Alliance Analogy:
“It’s bizarre that almost 50 years later Western leftists are making this exact same mistake and allying with Muslims; they will have the same fate.” – Joe Getty (11:00)
On Memoir Ethics:
“Please don’t tell our secrets, because the end of a romantic relationship in my moral code does not imply now we get to tell each other secrets ... That is ... despicable.” – Commentator/Analyst (35:16–35:19)
Joe Getty’s Satire on Newsom’s Scandal:
“Oh, you mean that period of time where my best friend was having sex with my wife every night and I didn’t know it?” – Joe Getty (38:48)
Greg Gutfeld Joke Recap: (48:08)
“Meanwhile, Kamala is only at 5% among Democratic nominees. The last time she went down on a poll this fast, it belonged to Willie Brown.”
The hosts marvel at the edginess of the joke, contrasting typical expectations about conservative audiences.
Armstrong & Getty bring their trademark mix of wry sarcasm, cultural skepticism, and political irreverence. They mock political posturing, lampoon hypocrisy, and favor plain-spoken skepticism over ideological niceties. The banter is biting but casual, sometimes venturing into spicy territory, always with a tone of “can you believe this?” incredulity.
This episode serves as a fast-paced, opinionated tour through both the ideological shifts in American left politics and the cultural swirl around public confessions and scandals. Armstrong & Getty warn Democrats about the dangers of radical factions gaining mainstream traction and link historical revolutionary cautionary tales to modern alliances. Meanwhile, the Gavin Newsom scandal's reappearance is dissected for both personal drama and the spectacle of public storytelling. If you’re seeking both political analysis and tabloid intrigue, with a heavy dose of skepticism and humor, this episode typifies Armstrong & Getty’s approach.