Take the Teat

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — "Take the Teat"

Episode Date: August 4, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Participants: Katie Green, Hanson, Joe, others

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Armstrong & Getty On Demand" features the return of Katie Green from maternity leave. The central theme revolves around the pressures and judgments new mothers face, particularly concerning breastfeeding, societal expectations, and navigating unsolicited advice—especially in the age of social media. Katie candidly discusses her personal struggles with breastfeeding, postpartum anxiety, and the broader topic of parental judgment, sparking a lively and heartfelt conversation among the hosts.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Katie's Breastfeeding Journey & Judgments

• Return to Work: Katie Green is welcomed back post-maternity leave ([01:20]).
• Breastfeeding Struggles: Katie shares her experience with emergency C-section and difficulties producing breast milk.
  • Quote: "I was induced. I also went through an emergency C section which delays your milk production. And I had a really big problem producing breast milk." — Katie Green ([01:33])
• Combo Feeding Decision: After facing challenges, she consults her doctor and decides on combo feeding (breast milk + formula).
  • Quote: "Fed is fed. We're gonna put him on formula. You can combo feed." — Katie Green’s doctor, relayed by Katie ([01:49])

Reaction to Social Media Criticism

• Judgmental Comments: Katie reads a social media comment criticizing her for not exclusively breastfeeding.
  • Quote: "Are you breastfeeding, Quote, end quote. I sure hope so. You waited so long, so make sure you do it right." — Katie reading a comment ([01:34])
• Emotional Toll: Katie expresses frustration and anger at unsolicited, judgmental advice.
  • Quote: "The judgment on women who don't slash cannot breastfeed is one of the most fucking obnoxious things I've encountered this entire time." — Katie Green ([02:41])
• Physical & Circumstantial Complications: Katie's son had a tongue tie, complicating breastfeeding further.
  • Quote: "My son has a tongue tie... They wanted us to do surgery. My other doctor said don't do it... But don't tell me what to do." — Katie Green ([03:01])

The Broader Issue of Parental Judgment

• Constant Advice: The hosts discuss how parental criticism, especially online, is inescapable and often comes from people with little context.
  • Quote: "It was my first big encounter in the world with. You just gotta ignore people... you don't know my situation." — Hanson ([03:35])
• Postpartum Anxiety: Katie reveals she’s been dealing with severe postpartum anxiety, a topic less commonly discussed than postpartum depression.
  • Quote: "I've always heard of postpartum depression... But I've been dealing with postpartum anxiety... I've been trying to handle that while also trying to be a good mom." — Katie Green ([04:28])
  • She feels that rare or uncomfortable feelings like anxiety should be discussed more openly to help others.

The Social Media Amplifier

• Pre-Social Media vs. Now: Joe reflects on how his parenting occurred before the current social media era, noting the amplified scrutiny now.
  • Quote: "All of my kids were born prior to the era of social media." — Joe ([05:22])
• Hatred & Trolling: Hanson shares his experience with cruel messages during his illness, likening the universality of online criticism.
  • Quote: "When I had cancer, the number of 'I hope you dies' I got... it's more than you would think." — Hanson ([05:54])
• Advice from Other Moms: Katie is especially baffled by judgmental comments from other mothers, given they likely endured similar scrutiny.
  • Quote: "The amount of moms who have been like, 'Well, I know you don't want to hear this, but...' — Katie Green ([08:09])

Dealing with Criticism — Setting Boundaries

• Ignore Irrelevant Opinions: The hosts explore strategies for emotionally detaching from strangers' opinions.
  • Quote: "You do not need to justify yourself to anyone but your baby and your husband." — Joe ([10:47])
• The '95% Rule': Joe shares advice about ignoring the vast majority who can’t relate—and focusing only on the tiny circle that matters.
  • Quote: "The circle of people you ought to care about what they think is very, very small." — Joe ([15:53])
  • Katie lists her immediate family as the only opinions that truly matter ([16:22]).

Memorable and Light-hearted Moments

• Humor & Tension: Throughout, the hosts use humor to relieve tension. They joke about Katie's anger, the dangers of responding to trolls, and mock-conspiracies about retaliation against social media critics.
  • Quote: "Don't ruin that feeling by beating Susan with both your fists and leaving her with a bloody nose." — Joe ([18:01])
• Positive Affirmation: Katie shares an uplifting encounter with elderly women showing support.
  • Quote: "The old ladies that love me with my little baby in my stroller, everywhere I go… One of them had a walker… 'You go, girl.'... The amount of good outweighs the bad by oh, yeah, a trillion." — Katie Green ([16:43-17:20])
• Proud of Her Son: She gushes about her baby’s good behavior, cooing, and smiles, despite external negativity.
  • Quote: "His eyes, like, change, and they light up, and he's just, oh, oh, my God, I'm so in love. It's obnoxious." — Katie Green ([17:37])

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Notable Quotes & Moments (With Timestamps)

• On societal pressure: "The judgment on women who don't slash cannot breastfeed is one of the most fucking obnoxious things I've encountered this entire time." — Katie Green ([02:41])
• On combo feeding: "'Fed is fed.'... So he's getting the benefits of it and whatnot." — Katie Green ([01:49])
• On unsolicited advice: "Don't tell me what to do and tell me, 'Oh, I hope you're doing it right.' Just suck it." — Katie Green ([03:01])
• On emotional health: "I've been dealing with postpartum anxiety... I've been talking to doctors and like trying to get that under control." — Katie Green ([04:28])
• On setting boundaries: "You do not need to justify yourself to anyone but your baby and your husband." — Joe ([10:47])
• On community affirmation: "The amount of good outweighs the bad by—oh, yeah—a trillion." — Katie Green ([17:20])

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [01:20] — Katie Green returns from maternity leave
• [01:33–02:41] — Breastfeeding struggles and social media judgment
• [03:01–04:28] — Details on physical complications, postpartum anxiety
• [05:54–06:14] — Comparing pre- and post-social media parenting environments
• [08:09–09:17] — On advice from other mothers and the nuances of intent vs. judgment
• [10:47–11:14] — The only opinions that matter
• [16:22–17:20] — The 95% rule & uplifting public encounters
• [17:37–18:01] — Celebrating her baby’s personality

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Candid & Raw: Katie is open and direct, venting understandable frustration.
• Supportive & Empathetic: The co-hosts offer compassion, practical advice, and humor to normalize her feelings.
• Empowerment: The message emphasizes trusting oneself, respecting the unique journey of each parent, and reducing the weight given to outside judgment.
• Awareness: Katie's discussion of postpartum anxiety is especially valuable, highlighting its under-recognition and the need for broader awareness.

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Conclusion

This episode offers a heartfelt, honest, and at times laugh-out-loud take on parenting under scrutiny. It's an empathetic reminder that each family's situation is unique, unsolicited opinions are best ignored, and the small circle of supporters in one's life matter most. Listeners, especially new or expecting parents, will find validation and perhaps some comic relief in Katie's candidness and her co-hosts' solidarity.

Transcript

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[Katie Green]

Well, maybe he can't take the teach, Susan. It's One More thing. Armstrong and Getty.

[Podcast Host]

One more.

[Joe]

I'll take the teat for 1,000, Alex.

[Hanson]

Okay, I want to make sure we heard that right. Maybe he can't take the teat. Susan.

[Katie Green]

Yeah.

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[Hanson]

Katie Green, back from maternity leave, joins us on the One More Thing podcast.

[Katie Green]

I am just so.

[Hanson]

I'm uncomfortable even saying this sentence, but are we talking about your teat?

[Katie Green]

Yeah, we're. You're fine. We're talking about my breasts. Hansen, you're gonna have a hell of a time with this, because I'm pissed. I am so sick of this. Just judgmental. Here's a. Here's a. A comment. I won't say, from which social media outlet are you breastfeeding, Quote, end quote. I sure hope so. You waited so long, so make sure you do it right. All right, Susan. That's not her name. Here's the deal. I was induced. I also went through an emergency C section which delays your milk production. And I had a really big problem producing breast milk. So I tried and tried and tried and drove myself into a pit trying to get them to do what I wanted them to do. And my doctor said, hey, you know what? Fed is fed. We're gonna put him on formula. You can combo feed. So I was getting, like, a very small amount of breast milk, so I'm putting that in with his formula, so he's getting the benefits of it and whatnot.

[Joe]

Super.

[Katie Green]

The. The judgment on women who don't slash cannot breastfeed is one of the most fucking obnoxious things I've Encountered this entire time.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Hanson]

One, one. It's good to have you back.

[Katie Green]

Hi. Yeah.

[Hanson]

Bringing the anger. Bringing. No, bringing the women anger.

[Katie Green]

Well, I mean, come on, give me a break. Don't tell me what to do. You're not me. You don't know. And plus my son has a tongue tie, so he can't latch. He has a tongue tie like directly in it. What it does, it's a web that attaches his tongue to the bottom of his mouth. They wanted us to do surgery. My other doctor said don't do it because sometimes it repairs itself. So I'm not trying to cut my son ways that aren't necessary. But don't tell me what to do and tell me, oh, I hope you're doing it right. Just suck it.

[Joe]

The Susan, you idiot.

[Hanson]

The. The never ending evolvement of parenthood from pregnancy on through. I'm guessing the rest of my life. A lot of it is. It was my first big encounter in the world with. You just gotta ignore people. I mean, at some point it's just a. You don't know my situation. I'm not gonna argue about it with you. There's lots of details. I don't know all my details. You don't know all your details. So I'm just gonna. Whatever.

[Chelsea Handler]

Well.

[Katie Green]

And I've. I've been very transparent about the whole thing the entire time you guys know I've been talking to it about.

[Hanson]

You're right. You're right. On this show that does become a problem because you talk about something and you just kind of want to share it as maybe a universal. But people come in with all the stuff. You didn't give all your information because on some of its private or whatever. But. So you don't know what you're talking about.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, you don't know all of it. You just. You don't know all of it. And Joe, you actually weren't here the last time that I talked to Jack. But my. And it was one of the things that I wanted to put out there because I didn't even know it was a thing. But postpartum anxiety. I've always heard of postpartum depression and all this, you know, But I've been dealing with postpartum anxiety. So I've been talking to doctors and like trying to get that under control because my blood pressure and all the things just through the roof and I've been. I've been trying to handle that while also trying to be a good mom. And then it's like these little things that usually I would just toss in the trash and not give a holy s about. But it's like, you know, you waited so long. Do it right. What is right to you.

[Hanson]

Right.

[Katie Green]

Right to you is not right to me. So you can absolutely take that and just. I'm doing all the hand gestures of the up years and go out because

[Joe]

there's less editing involved if you do that. Yeah, yeah. Gosh. Dang. Dawns on me that all of my kids were born prior to the era of social media.

[Hanson]

Oh, yeah. Different world.

[Joe]

Because I, I'm like, why are you looking at social media? But then the answer is, well, because it's, you know, of all the different social media because we all take a glance at it, you know, semi regularly

[Katie Green]

and it's how I've stayed in contact with our listeners while I've been gone to like, you know, take mistake. No shit.

[Hanson]

Well, 99% of people are like normal, good people. But there is the. I mean, you wouldn't believe when I had cancer, the number of I hope you dies. I got. I mean, it's just, it's more than you would think you'd get.

[Katie Green]

Yeah.

[Hanson]

Wow, I shouldn't have texted that.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, way to go.

[Joe]

More than you'd think you'd get.

[Hanson]

Exactly. So you just. Yeah.

[Katie Green]

Here's the thing. My sweet son is beautiful. He's happy, he's healthy, he's fed, he is getting the benefits of breast milk through combo feeding. And also there's something called colostrum, which is what comes out before breast milk. There's a bunch of that. So he's not missing any of those antibodies or whatever, but it's just, it's these little moments where people are like, oh, you waited so wrong. Do it right. Really hope you're breastfeeding. Just, just shut up with all, with all of it.

[Hanson]

When I'm in the right mood, I can take it. And this doesn't have to be, you know, social media, just in general, people, it's. I feel like most people, once they become a parent for a while, they're like, oh, I see. This is way harder than I thought it was. Every kid is completely different, etcetera, etc, etcetera. I'm going to stop giving any opinions on anything I've ever seen ever happen. Because most people, that's why I was going to say most people, I feel like that's what you kind of naturally come to. You realize, oh, every kid's different. So when I saw, you know, pre having kids, when I saw a kid acting up in the Store that wasn't necessarily because the parents were doing a bad job. You have no idea what's going on in anyway. So most people, you end up being less like friends I have who are already parents, like, offer no judgment most of the time. Anything. But not everybody, as Joe just said, some people feel like it's licensed to really weigh in all the time.

[Joe]

It reminds me of our discussion of people who listen, watch videos with their phone without earbuds or headphones, listening to the audio loud in public, at a restaurant, in a gate, at an airport, whatever with. Those are the same people who will still weigh in, knowing nothing about your situation with certainty. I think, I swear to God, those two behaviors are. Are tied.

[Hanson]

Certainty goes with it, right?

[Joe]

Yes. Oh, yeah.

[Katie Green]

Well, I guess. I guess what blows my mind, it's like the amount of moms who have been like, well, I know you don't want to hear this, but. And then insert unnecessary, like, future advice here. It's like, I know. I know for a fact that when you were pregnant or you had just had your baby, the second anybody did this to you, it just irritated the hell out of you. So why, Like, I could never see myself if one of my friends got pregnant tomorrow. I would never be like, oh, you just. You just wait. Like, that's not. That's not, you know.

[Hanson]

Right, right, right, right, right. I can. I can judge myself on where I am in my spiritual fitness on these things. When I'm doing well, I can take these the way they're intended. This is someone who is trying to help me and make my life better.

[Katie Green]

Now, this person was not trying to make my life better. This was judgment.

[Hanson]

If I'm not spiritually fit, I only take it as judgment. You think you're smarter than me and I want to fight you. So it's usually one of those two things.

[Joe]

It sounds like Jack is judging Katie right here.

[Katie Green]

You effing C word, you. Are you breastfeeding? Quote, unquote. I hope so. You waited so long, so do it right. So if I'm not breastfeeding, I'm not doing it right. So you can take that and, you know, do with it what you will, but I mean it. Everybody's family is different. My sweet baby had to be on a supplemented formula. He. Because he was born so small and had to be whisked away to the NICU immediately. And so they wanted us to up his calories, so we did that with formula. Sue me. Sorry.

[Joe]

Right. Yeah. I think, yes. I think it's time for Father Joe to weigh in with his counseling. Fm.

[Hanson]

Yeah, that's your counseling.

[Joe]

Yeah, I. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's. Well. And you're dealing with all sorts of stuff neuropsychologically that. That we're not at this point.

[Hanson]

You don't know that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah,

[Joe]

I know you're lactating. You weren't going to talk about it on the air.

[Katie Green]

I've been seeing the dots on his shirt from his nipples licking earlier.

[Joe]

Got to get the pants. There's a balance to be struck between being a bitter, hateful hermit on the one hand and letting idiots comments get to you.

[Katie Green]

Right.

[Joe]

You do not need to justify yourself to anyone but your baby and your husband.

[Katie Green]

Right. And I'm using this strictly for this podcast like you like. I mean, I've read worse than this over the last three months.

[Joe]

The busy bodies of the world recognize themselves having even heard this in its entirety.

[Katie Green]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Or are they immune to that as well?

[Katie Green]

Probably. I mean, this will probably go right over this person's head, to be honest with you. But it was just something that caught my eye in the sense of like, dude, I know I'm a new mom and I know this is the first time, but I'm also. I'm not tone deaf, and I'm listening to my doctors, my doctors and his doctors. So if you don't know. And yeah, I am dealing with some weird, weird stuff, man. I have. And I texted you. You more than a few times while I've been off. Where. I mean, I had a couple of episodes where I just. I lost it. I felt disconnected. I felt like I. I wasn't even here, and it was a thing that I didn't even know existed. Like, when it hit me, I was like, what? I. I've never heard of this before. I've heard of postpartum depression where you get sad, and I've never heard of this, like, manic, anxious moment that can hit. And once I looked into it, I realized that it's like, a one in five thing.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Katie Green]

And I had no idea. And so that was one of the things I was like, you know what? When I'm gonna come back and we do our podcast or we go on the air, I want to make sure that it's something that's addressed. Because, like, if it's one in five, I'm not the only person that didn't have any idea that this existed.

[Hanson]

Well, for ratings purposes, if you could crack a mic anytime you feel this coming on and make sure you record it, just, like, lose your Mind.

[Katie Green]

That would be so much work for Hanson and every other word, passionate Jack. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Thank you, Jack.

[Katie Green]

Jack's the one that wanted to sell my contractions, by the way, so we'll just. That's right. They're going to sponsor him, huh?

[Hanson]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

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[Hanson]

In terms of how to deal with it, I wish Joe could explain a little more of this bitter, hateful hermit lifestyle. It's got an appeal to me. Like that might be my sweet spot.

[Katie Green]

It's, it's ignoring it. You just, you just don't give them the, the gratification that I'm giving it right now, which usually I wouldn't. And I've been in this for 20 years and usually I wouldn't give this person my time a day. But it's like it happens so much to mom.

[Joe]

And so here's a variation on that. I used to run into people now and Again, they, you know, they'd find out who I was and what I did for a living, and they'd say, oh, you know, and you get this once in a while. Yeah, your show really isn't my cup of tea. I don't, I didn't really like it or whatever. And, and if I cared about the relationship with a person or it came up in conversation, I would explain to people. And these numbers are outdated because radio, my God, has changed completely. Podcasting is obviously taken over to a large extent, blah, blah, blah. But it used to be back in the day that certainly in a major market, if you could regularly get 1% of the listening audience, 1%, you could make a living. If you could get 2%, you can make a really good living. If you got 5%, you would get rich, wealthy 5%. And my response was, you're in the 95%. I don't care.

[Katie Green]

It's fine.

[Joe]

It doesn't make me mad. I'm not sad. I'm not disappointed. You're in the 95%. It does not matter to you. Those people are in the 95% who are wrong or you don't, or they're dopes or they're, they got no, like, concept of when their opinion is welcome, when it's not. Yeah, you're in the 95%. And it's more like 99.9%. Because the circle of people you ought to care about what they think is very, very small, if you think about it.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, I have four of them in front of me. And then I have my husband and my parents and my in laws. That's about it.

[Joe]

You know, if you go down to the bus station, commit a triple murder, you don't need strangers to tell you that's wrong. The people you care about will tell you it's wrong.

[Katie Green]

Right.

[Joe]

And the stuff only that very small circle knows about, same thing. You can count on them. Don't worry about that.

[Katie Green]

I will tell you, dude, the, the old ladies that love me with my little baby in my stroller, everywhere I go, I, I was walking through, I was walking through a parking lot last week with Van. We had just gone to lunch and these two ladies looked at me and they, they had to have been in their mid-80s. One of them had a walker. And one, the one with the walker went, you go, girl. I was like, yeah. And she came over and she looked at Van and she's like, he is such an angel. And like, the, the amount of, the amount of good outweighs the bad by

[Hanson]

oh, yeah, a trillion.

[Katie Green]

But it's just. I don't know. Like, I saw this thing, and I was like, you know, more moms get hit with this BS than. Than gets addressed.

[Hanson]

I. I feel that way when I see people, like, clearly starting out their family, think, oh, that is so awesome. You're going through that period of your life.

[Katie Green]

And he's. He's such a good baby. I mean, we sat at lunch the other day for like, an hour and a half, and he just sat there and kind of looked around, and he's just started to coo and social smile. So when I get, like, really close to his face, his. His eyes, like, change, and they light up, and he's just, oh, oh, my God, I'm so in love. It's obnoxious. It's obnoxious.

[Joe]

There you go. And don't ruin that feeling by beating Susan with both your fists and leaving her with a bloody nose.

[Katie Green]

Well, that's why I brought it to you guys. He's not in here right now.

[Hanson]

Figuring out where she lives. Going to her house, slashing her tires,

[Joe]

working on her head like she's the light bag. No, don't do it.

[Katie Green]

I already found her. Oh, my knife is extended.

[Hanson]

No, no.

[Joe]

Deep breath, deep breath.

[Katie Green]

Those are tired of flooding. Eddie, don't worry about other people.

[Joe]

Hey, how many times are a day do you feel.

[Katie Green]

Do you feed Van? Oh, God. I don't know how many times a day, But I will say that it's almost three months. He is taking 28 to 30 ounces of food a day.

[Hanson]

Me, too.

[Katie Green]

So you're starving your child? Oh, just, you know. Michael. Michael. I will come in there and I will choke slam you. All right.

[Hanson]

You're not feeding him enough.

[Katie Green]

Well, I guess that's it. You're not feeding him enough. Shut up, Jack.

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