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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at.
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Joe Getty
The George Washington Broadcast Center.
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Jack Armstrong
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
The future for Wendy's they call it fresh AI. Here's how it works. A customer drives up and talks. Hi, welcome to Wendy's.
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Unknown Guest
Feel free to order whenever you are ready.
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Joe Getty
The AI takes the order inside. Human workers watch a monitor as the order comes. Then they prepare the meal. In 2023, Wendy's started offering AI Drive Thrus, now nearly 100 across 19 states, with more on the way. Wendy's partnered with Google Cloud to create their tech. It uses generative AI, which means it's always learning and should improve over time.
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Unknown Guest
H. I feel like they're stretching what people generally mean when they're talking about AI, because the whole what can we help you with? Computer voice. And then you tell them prescriptions has been around for 10 years. So if you're calling that AI, okay, fine. Because it is artificial, it's not human.
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Jack Armstrong
To draw those lines.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah, but, but that's. I don't think that's what we're. Yeah, it's funny.
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Jack Armstrong
My comment was gonna be we're gonna raise the wages of fast food workers until it's impossible to employ them to make sure they don't have a chance of keeping their jobs. Gavin Newsom with his idiotic, bizarre abuse of the economy.
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Unknown Guest
My, my reaction is I don't mind any of this stuff as long as it works. But if it's like the bank or the pharmacy or any other place I ever call with those stupid systems, I'm gonna pull up and say, I'd like a cheeseburger. Did you say shake? No. Cheeseburger.
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Jack Armstrong
Did you say chicken sandwich? No. Did you say you want it raw? A raw chicken sandwich. Please pull up to the next window.
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Unknown Guest
Right, exactly. And it makes me insane.
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Jack Armstrong
Right?
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Unknown Guest
Human being agent. Press zero.
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Jack Armstrong
Something.
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Unknown Guest
I don't want any of the. I like when they give you three options and none of them are your option. I don't want any of those three things. Did you want checking, savings or mortgages? None of those. What am I supposed to do now, computer lady?
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Jack Armstrong
Three choices.
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Unknown Guest
Anyway, I only bring up the AI thing because Nvidia, which was the hottest stock in America over the last couple of years, if he'd have put. Or if I'd have put a whole bunch of my money in there, you know, I'd be, I'd be on a yacht somewhere right now. That's how much. And part of the reason they make computer chips, super fast computer chips, and the reason it is skyrocketed so much is the idea that AI is gonna be the biggest thing ever. And it's gonna, it's gonna need tons and tons of the fastest computer chips out there to be able to do it. And that's why this is the hottest stock going.
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Jack Armstrong
And only the best chips will do.
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Unknown Guest
Anything less than the best chips and you don't have a chance of competing. Except for today. We found out apparently that China has their own AI thing called Deep Seq and it's really good. And they did it with slow chips. And Nvidia stock dropped 12%. And people are thinking maybe you don't need super fast chips to do AI. Just to skip to some of the headlines on this Deep Seek is the Chinese thing. We were told by experts to come up with this level of AI. And the specialists say deep seats is still behind. OpenAI and Google, thank God, are good American AIs, but it is a close rival despite using fewer and much less advanced chips and in some cases skipping many steps that us developers thought were essential to be able to do this sort of thing. We were told by our experts it'd take between 100 million and a billion dollars to come up with something like this. I mean you gotta, the best case scenario, 100 million, but probably somewhere, you know, half, half billion to a billion dollars in the very fastest ships that exist. Deep Seek did it with our China did it with much slower trips for about five and a half million dollars. Wow, five and a half million dollars.
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Jack Armstrong
And another aspect of this worth mentioning is that we were told that don't worry, we'll keep the dirty commies down with these export controls. But evidently they didn't control nearly as Much as it was claimed they would in terms of progress.
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Unknown Guest
The headline being Silicon Valley is raving about a made in China AI model. Deepseek is being called amazing and impressive despite working with less advanced chips, which is its own because that was our big advantage. We got the super fast chips here in America. You don't have them. We can make them. They're going to get better and better and better. And if for whatever reason the Chinese can do it without the superfast chips, who knows where this goes?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it was Marc Andreessen, the famed Silicon Valley venture capitalist, who said, and he's been advising Trump, he has the ear of the king. He said, quote, deepseek, R1 is one of the most amazing and impressive breakthroughs I've ever seen. And he's seen some.
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Unknown Guest
Deep Seek's advances sparked a sell off led by chip shares early Monday on concerns over where the US huge spending by US tech giants on leading edge semiconductors and AI infrastructure was even justified. Ew. So maybe you didn't need to do all that.
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Jack Armstrong
So, yipes.
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Unknown Guest
We'll see where this goes.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, it'd be pretty mortifying if the United States of America had its pants pulled down in the world of fast moving, low budget entrepreneurialism by the communist Chinese. That'd be too much to take.
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Unknown Guest
It'd be interesting.
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Jack Armstrong
I mean, I could take a pair of bicycle repairmen in Ohio beating the US Government to the design of the first functioning airplane powered flight. But man, if it's the Russia, the communist Chinese. Oof.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah. Since in theory it's all about being nimble and quick and, and having the best talent and all these different things that supposedly we have just such an advantage over China, if they were able to do it, Way less money, huh? With the communist thumb on them all the time. Yeah, that would be. That'd be troubling. Wonder what we missed.
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Jack Armstrong
You hate to have the communist thumb on you.
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Unknown Guest
I wonder what we missed. Did we. Did they just get lucky and have a, you know, their own Steve Jobs? It's just super brilliant. We have our own bureaucracies that have built up over time in some of these tech worlds that are getting thick and sludgy.
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Jack Armstrong
If you ask me to compare and contrast the Kansas City Chiefs and Philadelphia Eagles offenses, I could do that for a minute or two and not sound like an idiot. You're asking me how the Chinese pull this off? I will pass and defer to others.
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Unknown Guest
All right. But I hope the smart people figure out what maybe happened there. Yeah, that's disturbing though.
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Jack Armstrong
You think they have spies in the tech sector?
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Unknown Guest
Well, I guarantee you.
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Jack Armstrong
I mean, they stole the technology.
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Unknown Guest
They, I guarantee you they do, but. So you're like, is it maybe the way the Soviets got the nuclear bomb, they had spies at Los Alamos, maybe that maybe they got our stuff and added it to their stuff?
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Jack Armstrong
That could be, yeah. That's absolutely possible. In fact, I think you can assume that there's an element of that. But heck, I mean, if our guys are tech gurus, learn from this, all the better. Competition. Competition makes you stronger.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah, yeah. If nothing else, it's going to light a fire under their hind ends to want to think, oh, we ain't, we ain't the king of the hill, quite the way we thought we were.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, on the other hand, if our communist overlords design their army of commie bots to sweep over the landscape and subjugate us, now that'll be bad. That won't make us stronger. But competition does, generally speak.
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Unknown Guest
And nobody wants to be under the old ct, as we know.
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Jack Armstrong
No, certainly not the old communist thumb commie bots. It's a nightmarish scenario. You know what's another nightmarish scenario and much more likely to happen is somebody break into your house and steal your stuff or threaten your loved ones or just remove that sense of security that you have. And that's why Simply safe home security is active. Door out, take two, active guard. Outdoor protection is so great, it stops break ins before they happen.
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Unknown Guest
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Jack Armstrong
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Unknown Guest
Somebody texted. A good point. A Chinese AI doesn't have to worry about being woke. They're not spending a second thinking about that.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, true enough. Although they are covering up for the Communist Party's evils. They, you know, did some test searches on there, and you can't get it to say anything mean about Xi Jinping. But ours are screwed up in that way, too, in a way.
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Unknown Guest
Well, speaking of the evil Chinese Communist Party, how about the news that came out over the weekend? The CIA says the most likely way Covid came about is a leak at the Wuhan lab. Now, they do say their level of certainty is low, but it's the most likely thing, which is the same thing the FBI said. It's the most likely thing. We can't prove it, but it's the most likely thing. What I was wondering, and I was thinking I had a certain person in mind when I was thinking about this, because I'd had an argument with them after the FBI announced this a couple of years ago, and they said, yeah, but that doesn't prove it. Well, no, I realize that, but it's the most likely thing. Yes, but that's not proof that it is. And I'm my, my reaction to that crowd and that person would be, what are you using for your guidance? What is what. What's driving your pushback? Is there anything that drives the pushback to this theory other than Trump blamed it on the Chinese and so you don't want to be on his side? Is there anything other than that?
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Jack Armstrong
No, no, certainly not among laymen. I mean, if you are a microbiologist and you say, I do not find the comparison of the spike proteins to natural proteins and bat standard to be compelling. Okay, fine. That's all right. I'll listen to you. I think you're wrong, but I'll listen to you. But, no, if it's just a layman saying no, no, I think it was naturally occurring because they've been taught to hate everything Trump believes. No, you're a get out of the way. You're a cultist.
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Unknown Guest
It's got to be, especially now that the FBI and CIA have come out and said it's most likely thing. But the other part of that, that I want to make sure you heard, because you might not know this if I can find my particular text around that. And we're going to get to the stuff that came out over the weekend about how schools didn't, didn't. It didn't help anything to have the schools shut down the way we did, which is really, really maddening. The ba ba ba ba ba no clear benefit from shutting down the schools. Yeah, we're going to get into that topic a little bit later. Give myself two seconds to find this, if I can. I'll just summarize it.
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Jack Armstrong
I don't think I'm stealing. Go ahead.
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Unknown Guest
The CIA analysts supporting lab origin thing was completed and published internally during the Biden administration. Yes, that came out during the Biden administration. You're only hearing about it now because Trump is in office. It was held from the public by the Biden administration in violation, by the way, of the COVID act, which mandated the release they didn't want. So you're so concerned about misinformation, Joe Biden. Oh, these, these social media platforms and they're not even going to fact check anymore, Jack. And I'm worried about misinformation. How about the opposite of misinformation? Hiding facts, which is its own kind of lies by omission. It's its own misinformation. What do you think about that?
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Jack Armstrong
That was a thread that ran through virtually all of the Biden administration's COVID policies. Dishonesty and suppression of any dissent. Even when that dissent, the Great Barrington Declaration, was 100% correct.
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Unknown Guest
Oh, I'm getting way closer on board to the whole Joe Biden is the worst president we've ever had and there's a whole bunch of reasons why around his pardons and everything like that. We ought to talk about that, among other things on the way. Stay with us, Armstrong and Getty. The country's bird flu outbreak is creating egg shortages and sending prices soaring. At least 36 million egg laying chickens have been killed in recent months to prevent the spread of the virus. There has been no evidence of person to person spread, but at least 67 people have been infected and one person has died. It's been a great week. I basically hit all my campaign promises except for the one people cared about price of eggs. I. Who would have thought it'd be easier to get a ceasefire in Gaza than bring down the price of eggs? Might have to take the L on that one. You know, we're looking into some fabulous alternative egg options such as Seagull or perhaps Cadbury.
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Jack Armstrong
One of the few laughs in the Saturday Night Live cold open, in my opinion. You know, it's bad for the birds, the bird flu, there's no doubt about that and it's certain the price of eggs. But trying to convince me that I'm Going to die of it. We're clearly not anyway, Jack. Every year the major industrialized countries of the year administer and I had no idea of this a global test of adult know how which measures job readiness and problem solving among workers in industrialized countries.
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Unknown Guest
What? How do they test my know how?
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Jack Armstrong
There are all sorts of questions that, that grill workers between the ages of 1665 to do all sorts of stuff. Make inferences from sections of text, manipulate fractions, apply spatial reasoning, create a complex travel itinerary, read a thermometer.
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Unknown Guest
Read a thermometer.
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Jack Armstrong
Read a thermometer and finding information from a website. And American workers are falling behind those in other rich countries. We have lost more ground after the pandemic and have gained less of it back reading a thermometer. Anyway, I could hit you with the statistics, but they are troubling.
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Unknown Guest
I don't think you really do gain it back. Based on my personal experience and talking to teachers, it's just lost. They're just going to be behind.
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Jack Armstrong
I think if there were a carefully conceived and energetically implemented plan to catch the kids up, I think you could do it. But we lack both of those things.
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Unknown Guest
Boy, I don't know if that's possible unless you really redid things. Lots of public schools, barely many don't reach the incredibly easy proficiency standards that already exist. How are you gonna, I mean if you weren't when you were going to school all the time, how are you gonna catch people? I don't understand how the current structure could do that.
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Jack Armstrong
And if you miss the window of a child, say 7, 8 years old when they, their brains are just astounding sponges, incredibly effective at picking up information processing it. No, you cannot get that back. I think the other. But that ought to be true more or less uniformly across the world. Although because of Trump derangement syndrome, our schools were closed much longer than virtually any other countries. And it's inexcusable and unforgivable. I also just think, and there's no denying this, our schools have gone from an almost exclusive emphasis on learning reading, writing and arithmetic and history and critical thinking to now half a dozen other goals about learning about equity and, and, and gender bending madness and the genderbred person and the rest of it, I'm, you know, especially in blue states, the kids are just, they're not focused on excellence.
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Unknown Guest
Here's something I know having the obvious.
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Jack Armstrong
And inevitable, you know, outcome.
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Unknown Guest
Here's something I'm surprised I never thought of or don't know did other countries do zoom school did they do like the United States and pretend that Zoom was accomplishing anything, or did they resort to other ways to try to teach their kids? Because if Zoom School didn't exist, you might have been way more likely to come up with a way to educate your kid at home. I don't know.
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Jack Armstrong
Varies country by country, obviously, but. And I mean this quite seriously, it is so troubling and interesting that this actually happened in my lifetime in ours. In other countries, they didn't have Trump derangement syndrome. So when they would get data or see what other countries experience was, they would say, oh, that's interesting. We need to adjust. They wouldn't frantically screech that it was wrong or evil or you were causing people to die or be banned from Facebook. They just took the information and processed it.
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Unknown Guest
Trump's J6 pardons were bad. Biden's pardons were so much worse than, you know. Stay tuned, Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
Senator, do you think that President Biden pardoning his own family members sets a bad precedent?
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Unknown Guest
Absolutely. He was wrong to give these pardons.
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Jack Armstrong
And among other things, what it says now to the Trump family and to President Trump's kids.
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Unknown Guest
They can engage in any kind of.
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Jack Armstrong
Malfeasance, criminality, graft, whatever, and they can expect a pardon on the way out the door. That is not a message you want to send to this family or really any family occupying the White House.
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Unknown Guest
That's Senator Adam Schiff, who's so full of crap, I don't know how he sees out his eyes. Senator from California saying, no, Joe Biden shouldn't have pardoned his family. It's horrible. Which partially shows you just how much the Democratic establishment has turned on Joe Biden at this point. Just.
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Jack Armstrong
I mean, you're farther down the road of immorality than Adam Schiff, and he's calling you on it. Wow. Pot calling. I don't know what a black hole. Black.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah. They're not even going to attempt to cover up, but it was horrible. Absolutely horrible. Just to make sure we get both sides here, here's Lindsey Graham, who couldn't be a bigger Trump supporter, saying this.
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Jack Armstrong
But I fear that you'll get more violence. Pardoning the people who went into the Capitol and beat up a police officer violently, I think was a mistake, because it seems to suggest that's an okay thing to do.
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Unknown Guest
That was a bad day last week. The pardoning of the violent among the January 6th people, and then Joe Biden pardoning his family preemptively. That's just not a Good day for the United States of America right there.
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Jack Armstrong
No, indeed. And also Biden's pardoning Of the nearly 1500 quote, unquote non violent drug offenders, pardoning and commutations, some of whom are absolute monsters. And that, that's the problem with pardoning 1500 people. It's taken quite a while for independent journalists to say, wow, who are all these people? Is this justified? And some of them, the one guy who he was pardoned because the, the charge that they sentenced him to several decades in prison for was quote, unquote, nonviolent. He was running a drug syndicate. This guy on multiple occasions broke into rivals houses or you know, disobedient dealers houses and tortured their loved ones until they told him where the drugs or the money was. He poured boiling water on the w wives and or girlfriends of various associates until they screamed for mercy and revealed where the drugs were. He tased the genitals of one woman until she revealed where the money was. The feds, just partly because his victims were so terrified, didn't get convictions on that because they could put him away for 35 years on running a giant drug syndicate. So they did. And Biden turned this guy loose. Can you imagine the horror of his victims? This guy's on the streets.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah. The fact that some people are starting to pay attention to all of these pardons that Joe Biden unleashed there in the final days and hours, it won't reach very many people, unfortunately, but just freaking horrible. The whole people are in jail for a long time for nonviolent drug offenses has always been, or at least for a long, long time. Ridiculous. If somebody's in for a, for what seems like a really long charge, look closer at what they were doing with their lives before you jump into the. They had a joint, now they're in jail for 10 years. That's not what's going on here. But so my question is. So all these, there's a couple of reasons what you just said, people are terrified of some of these violent people. So they don't testify them. And then you against them. And then you got the whole gang culture thing where people tend not to testify against each other. And then the feds decide, what do we need that for? We can put this guy in jail for 30 years on the drug charges. So you do that. Where. Where does Joe Biden and his crowd come up with the we need to release these nonviolent drug offenders? Does he not know? Did he not know? I don't know if he knows anything. His brain doesn't Work. But did the people right beneath him not know that you got a scumbag like this who's almost certainly gonna go out and hurt somebody again. That's when it'll become a news story.
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Jack Armstrong
When he rapes down those who testified against him as we speak.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah. When he tortures those people again. And this makes the news, of course. What are you gonna do? Not vote for Joe Biden.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, it's funny, I would not have believed the following statement until it became clear that Biden's inner circle was protecting him from all bad news, all bad poll results. They were just not telling the old man. People were warned, we've talked about this before, they went into the Oval Office, do not give him any bad news. Which is just horrendous. But now I'm convinced that, yeah, his left advisor, far left advisors, convinced him that, hey, these 1500 people are all innocents. They've been screwed. It's probably racism, Mr. President. They're all really nice people and will immediately run out to volunteer for the Kiwanis Club and raise money for blind children. And Joe, senile Joe signed the forms and turned them all loose. But here's a couple more. Here's a woman who embezzled nearly $54 million from the town of Dixon, Illinois where she was the comptroller. And here's a dude. Can you imagine, imagine the human carnage and grief that this guy spread. He was convicted, he was a head of a management. He was convicted of defrauding investors out of more than $665 million. According to the paper. How many poverty stricken oldsters are there out there because of this guy? Because he made their life savings disappear. But no, he was a non violent offender. He had a very long sentence. That's not fair. And so Joe just put pen to paper for whoever his Marxist advisors told.
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Unknown Guest
Him to shocking on for instance, the, that really horrible example of the violent drug gang leader who was pouring boiling water on people to torture them, who's now out. He's now out and about and free because Joe Biden thought it was a good idea to pardon him. Remember when Joe Biden, back in the 90s, he was the whole super predator, really gonna double down on our laws guy.
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Jack Armstrong
He has, we're gonna put him in jail if they do anything worse than jaywalking.
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Unknown Guest
He said instead of saying has, I'm gonna say had because I really think he's a past tense guy at this point, he doesn't even really know what's going on. But he had no convictions. He had no standards or morals or ideology. He just did whatever was hot at the time to keep himself in office. And we mentioned this last week. Sarah Isger of the Dispatch wrote a great piece and you can Google it. This is one of those Dispatch is a you have to pay for it thing. But some of their best stuff they allow to be out there for free. And you can just Google this and read it anywhere you want. The quiet lawlessness of Joe Biden, where she argues that he is the most lawless president we've had in U.S. history. And she's a lawyer and she goes through it thing by thing. If you want to talk about Andrew Jackson and things he did, she comes up with things Joe Biden did also. But then Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Donald Trump, whoever you want to criticize for doing lawless things, there's a. There's an equivalent that Joe Biden, except Joe Biden did all of them, not just the individual examples you can use from each presidency. He's the most lawless president we ever had. And he should go down, as she says, he should be infamous forever for this. I don't know that that's going to happen. Maybe over time. I don't know.
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Jack Armstrong
I think it will. I really do. He's a miserable failure as a president.
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Unknown Guest
I don't care about that. I care about that, obviously, but I don't care about that. In the same way, the lawlessness needs to be recognized or we're in a race to the bottom then of just the whole thing falling apart if there's not gonna be any penalty. Historians, the media, whoever, talking about all the things that he did, then of course future presidents are going to do it. Donald Trump and whoever else comes in the future.
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Jack Armstrong
Right, Right. And I think we the people need to, regardless of which way we swing, just call it when we see it. If our side is evil, say, hey, quit being evil. I don't want evil done on my behalf, please.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah, that's really rough, man. And the idea. So I was listening to the podcast which Sarah Isger was talking about. She was making the argument that, and a lot of you will probably like this, that Joe Biden's pardons were clearly worse than Donald Trump's J6 pardons in that she doesn't think old one eyed, what's his name, who led the proud boys is gonna go out there and lead another insurrection in which cops get beaten down. But she's certain that drug dealer guy is gonna go out and torture and murder more people. And I think you can make that argument pretty clearly.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, well. And you don't have to pick one. You don't think they're both.
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Unknown Guest
Nope.
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Jack Armstrong
Immoral. As I do.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
You know, call them both out.
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Unknown Guest
Neither one of them should have happened. Yeah. Oh, it's just. It's. It didn't get near the coverage it should have gotten all the way around.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, imagine your strategy for getting some cover for yourself is, yes, I'm going to pardon or commute sentences of 1400 criminals, many of whom are monsters, but I will do something so much worse. Worse than that, I will give preemptive license for lawlessness to all of my family and Dr. Fauci, who's probably indirectly responsible for the deaths of millions of people. Yes, that's what I'll do. Yeah.
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Unknown Guest
The one you get, though I understand pardoning the family, it's selfish and wrong and the very sort of thing our founding fathers were worried about. But you understand why he did it. We're running a family criminal enterprise, and I don't want anybody to pay a price for it. I don't understand why you pardoned violent drug offenders. Because you thought you'd curry favor with the most progressive out there so you could what?
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Jack Armstrong
No, he just. I don't know. I think you're way overestimating his role in this. No, I wasn't there. I could be wrong. But I seriously think it was very much like when a scammer, a monster, puts the pen in the hand of a senile elder and has them sign a form to sign over their savings to the fraudster. I think his lefty advisors quite literally defrauded him into thinking he was just turning loose innocent people who would go and go on to be good for their community.
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Unknown Guest
Okay, then what's.
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Jack Armstrong
Because they are Neo Marxists.
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Unknown Guest
So their motivation is they're just that Gascon crowd where nobody should be in jail.
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Jack Armstrong
Empty the prisons. Yeah. George Gascon, Gavin Newsom, that whole super left, Marxist, empty the prisons crowd. Yeah.
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Unknown Guest
Boy, that's evil.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I hope there are enough sane people close enough to the last White House who will explain how it all went down. And soon, I think it'll be far worse and more strange and troubling than we even imagine.
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Unknown Guest
It's almost got to be. I mean, it has to be. How else could you justify a guy like we just described with the boiling water and the tortures and everything like that getting out?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's. Well, it's very much like the leftist reform of the three strikes law in California. They would, they would hammer on this guy's a non violent felon. Look, that conviction was nonviolent. But then you look into his background and you see. No, no, that was just the lead conviction. That was the big one. That was the longest sentence he got. That was quot unquote non violent. It was like selling drugs to school children for a decade. But there's lots and lots of violence there. But they just, they shine the. Or they, they hang the shiny object in front of you over one conviction. Say he's nonviolent. They're liars.
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Unknown Guest
Horrifying. I hope he does go down in history as the wor. It doesn't have to be the worst president ever. Just a horrible, just horribly. Just a horrible lying human being who did all kinds of things we shouldn't allow presidents to do.
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Jack Armstrong
Utterly unprincipled.
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Unknown Guest
Wow. And he pulled it off for a very, very long time. Went to the Bob Dylan movie which is being nominated. Was nominated for Best Picture. I want to talk a little bit about that for a variety of reasons. My son went with me, my 13 year old. He was at least 20 years younger than the next youngest person in the theater for I think, obvious reasons. But anyway, stay here.
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Jack Armstrong
You made it rhyme louder than it's rhyme in a long time.
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Unknown Guest
Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
Who are you?
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Unknown Guest
If you saw Saturday Night Live, you saw this with Timothy Chalamet who plays Dylan in the new movie A Complete Unknown. He's nominated for an Oscar for playing Dylan the Pictures nominated for Best Picture. And he did a couple of. And I'm a big Bob Dylan fan. He did a couple of obscure Dylan songs I didn't know in a very cool rock and roll sort of way. He was the host and musical guest. Anyway, he's. He's one of those guys that like, I don't want to like him because he's really young and he's really pretty and he just, you know, I don't want to like that kind of guy.
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Jack Armstrong
But talented and rich too. I hate him for that. I hate him.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah. Anyway, I loved the movie and my son liked it. My 13 year old really liked it, which was kind of shocking. Well, I actually ended up going on Saturday because I was at a little gather thingy and somebody came in and said I went to Complete Unknown last night. Oh yeah, I went the other night. It was awesome. And it was a. And a bunch of people were chiming in with how much they loved it. And it ranged in age from like 22 to 72. And I thought, interesting. And my son likes Bob Dylan. So we went and he really liked the movie Joe mentioned last week. And I felt the same way. I was hesitant to want to go to that because I like Bob Dylan so much and his music matters so much to me and I've spent so much time listening to it and everything. Just kind of a Hollywood. Whatever they do in Hollywood version of that was gonna really make me angry.
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Jack Armstrong
Or in short, that's what they do. They ruin things.
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Unknown Guest
Well, I didn't want them to take something that I think is important and cool and like dumb it down. They did not. They did not dumb it down at all.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow.
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Unknown Guest
Which I really enjoyed. It was, it was one of those times where you. I felt like, wow, this TV show or movie is actually treating us like smart grown ups. Like not worried about the dumb among us. The dumb among us, you know, leave. I mean, I, I like that. I also like anytime you have a biopic where they don't make the subject always super freaking cool and he was not, it'd be very easy to come away from that movie thinking, geez, Dylan's an a hole. Be very easy to come away with that. Yeah. And they, and they also, I think there's an advantage to just picking a couple years segment of somebody's life and portraying it as opposed to trying to do their whole damned life in two and a half hours.
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Jack Armstrong
Because then you just got a much better idea.
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Unknown Guest
You got to skip so much stuff and they just skip, really him showing up in New York to. When it goes electric in 65, it ends in 65. So you know, long before a lot of other stuff happened. Here's one interesting thing I thought though, and his portrayal of Dylan is a guy who's watched a gazillion interviews with Dylan from back in the day. He's got it so nailed. It's incredible. But the one detail that I thought it was funny that they picked up on and it's always bothered me was Dylan's long dirty fingernails. It's always grossed me out. Anytime you see Dylan being interviewed and he like smokes a cigarette, which he does constantly, it's like, dude, do you ever wash your hands?
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Jack Armstrong
Gross.
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Unknown Guest
His long dirty. Like you can see the black dirt under his fingernails. And Timothy Chalamet has long dirty fingernails the whole movie. Which I thought interesting little.
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Jack Armstrong
That's attention to detail, isn't it?
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Unknown Guest
Yeah, it really is. And again, like I mentioned last week I'd read a review. I don't know if I'd have picked up on this otherwise, but the idea that a young famous guy didn't go along with the socialists with what they wanted him to do is awesome. Ed Norton, Pete Seeger, the banjo player gives a speech about, you know, we've got a teeter totter and it's all weighted on one side and we're trying to wait it so it's more balanced across the country. And you're helping us balance out that teeter totter. And Dylan's like, no, I'm not. I don't care about the teeter totter of social justice and everything. And, and at the end of the movie, they say, Pete Seeger goes on to live a life of fighting for social justice, and Joan Baez goes on to donate to. And I, I don't know what their point was if, like, Dylan let down the social justice world or what, but he didn't care. I guarantee you that. No.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, okay, interesting.
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Unknown Guest
But if you're a Dylan fan, it's not going to creep you out.
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Jack Armstrong
Okay, I'm, I'm excited now. I'm gonna have to seek that out or probably wait till it's on cable.
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Unknown Guest
My brother's. My brother's seen it twice. He liked it so much and he's a big Dylan.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, wow.
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Unknown Guest
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Joe Getty
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