That Had A Short Bus Tone To It

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: “That Had A Short Bus Tone To It”

Episode Date: April 23, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty (with Katie Green)

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Episode Overview

In this lively and irreverent episode of Armstrong & Getty, Jack and Joe dissect both the overlooked and the overhyped in American news, with a strong focus on U.S. foreign policy toward Iran, the California governor’s race, media coverage bias, internet culture, and the business of hate groups in America. As always, the show ping-pongs between grave analysis, biting humor, cultural critique, and listener interaction, maintaining its signature skeptical but accessible tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Ignored Iran Blockade and Media Blackout

[03:09 – 06:08]

• Topic: The U.S. is enforcing a widespread oil blockade against Iran, intercepting ships far from Iranian waters—a fact getting very little media attention.
• Armstrong: “We boarded three ships a thousand miles away from Iran… Why isn’t that getting more attention? That seems like a big deal.”
• Getty: Suggests the administration may be deliberately keeping the blockade under the radar by amplifying other controversies and distractions.
• Quote (Getty): “It’s a major act of war to blockade a country and try to starve it out… it’s not even being seen as controversial.” [05:22]
• Critique of Media: The Wall Street Journal coverage is slammed by Armstrong for focusing solely on escalation and not on the economic strategy to avoid violence.
• Big Picture: The hosts express frustration at how the public and even serious news outlets have lost the appetite for factual context, instead defaulting to drama and opinion.

2. Societal Regression and Civic Disengagement

[06:08 – 10:12]

• Media Cynicism: Armstrong derides a conspiracy theory that claims the Iran conflict is meant to distract from the Epstein case: “Oh, my Lord… We’ve regressed as a country… Now we’re in a second adolescence.” [06:27]
• Iranian Propaganda: Discussion of propaganda murals in Tehran asserting Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz. Trump reportedly negotiated for the lives of Iranian women protesters.
• Lack of Civic Attention: Both hosts highlight how big geopolitical issues and even the California governor’s race are widely ignored by the American public.
  • Getty: “People aren’t paying attention… What do we pay attention to? I guess TikTok.” [09:08]

3. Short Videos, Social Media, and Societal ‘Dumbing Down’

[10:12 – 11:53]

• “Short Bus Tone” Joke: A stumbling discussion over whether “short videos” was misheard as “shark videos” gives way to a riff about online video content.
  • Armstrong: “We are dumbing ourselves down to the point of drooling morons.” [10:12]
  • Getty: “We are all addicted. We want short, entertaining videos.” [10:59]
  • Memorable Exchange: “Had a bit of a short bus sound to it.” (Getty, 10:51)
• Favorite Genres: Boat docking fails, Ring camera fails, porch pirate pranks, and (of course) shark videos.
• Underlying Point: The obsession with distractions parallels the lack of engagement with real news and issues.

4. Media Headlines and Cultural Story Round-Up with Katie Green

[16:43 – 23:12]

• Iran Blockade Coverage: ABC, CNN, NBC, and others cited as providing fragmented, shallow coverage; confusion over who is running the blockade and how.
• Pentagon Turmoil: Navy Secretary fired during a military crisis; questions over instability at the top.
• Cash Patel Scandal: Drinking on the job, misusing FBI to investigate a reporter—all treated with trademark A&G skepticism.
  • Armstrong: “What’s the limit on how much you’re allowed to drink to be in office and when did that start?” [18:43]
• Quirky News:
  • “Crazy jumping worms” invading California gardens.
  • Goldfish gets Guinness World Record for “driving.”
  • Study: 2 out of 5 Americans went “no contact” with a loved one this year (chiefly Gen Z).
  • Getty: “That rings true.” [21:22]
• Satirical Moment: Babylon Bee headline—“New ayatollah agrees to surrender, but only if JD Vance wears this cute little sailor outfit.” [22:08]

5. SPLC Exposé: Hate Groups and Manufactured Outrage

[27:52 – 35:55]

• Major Segment: Detailed discussion of revelations that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) was secretly paying actual leaders of hate groups in order to create the very racism it then fundraises to fight.
  • Armstrong: “They are a money laundering outfit… They have to have scary, scary right wingy groups to raise money, so they finance them.” [30:37]
  • Getty: “It’s straight out of the old tomey book of the exterminator that would show up at your house and toss cockroaches into the corner… that’s the SPLC.” [31:45]
  • Armstrong: “Hilarious. Propping up racism so they can claim there’s racism and raise boatloads of money. It’s their business model.” [47:22]
  • Getty: “If you can get to the leadership… you’d want to try to shut down the organization, not fund them.” [34:30]
• Comparisons: References made to the FBI’s infiltration of the Michigan governor kidnapping plot—would these hate group events even exist without undercover operatives bankrolling them?

6. Listener Mailbag and Cultural Philosophy

[43:11 – 46:47]

• Churchill Quote: “The difference between humans and animals is that animals never allow a fool to lead the pack.” [43:41]
• Philosophical Mail: Listener Adam asks about G.K. Chesterton’s “Cascade Idea” (theology → culture → institutions) and whether Christian values can persist without Christian faith.
  • Getty: “As a pastor, the question I wrestle with is can we maintain what are essentially Christian values without embracing the Christian faith?… Maybe, is the answer.” [45:13]
• Atheism and Society: Brief debate on whether morality can survive religion’s decline.

7. Lighthearted & Personal Moments

[15:42 – 16:43; 36:51 – 39:48]

• Printer Rage: Comic relief segment about the frustrations of malfunctioning office printers, culminating in stories of smashing them Office Space-style.
  • Getty: “There’s nothing I hate more than stuff like that. Nothing. Really? I’d rather have a broken bone than you need to update your software...” [16:10]
• Wills, Trusts & Family Drama: Humorous and sobering discussion on the importance of wills and the destructive potential of family disputes over inheritance.
• Upcoming: Silicon Valley Civil War: Tease for a juicy legal battle between Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and other tech titans, described as “the Hindenburg landing on the deck of the Titanic.” [39:54]

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Memorable Quotes

• “We’ve regressed as a country… Now we’re in a second adolescence where we’re just snarling and sneering and hate everything again.”
  — Jack Armstrong [06:27]

• “We are dumbing ourselves down to the point of drooling morons.”
  — Jack Armstrong [10:12]

• “We are all addicted. We want short, entertaining videos.”
  — Joe Getty [10:59]

• “They are a money laundering outfit… They have to have scary, scary right wingy groups to raise money, so they finance them.”
  — Jack Armstrong [30:37]

• “It’s straight out of the old tomey book of the exterminator that would show up at your house and toss cockroaches into the corner… that’s the SPLC.”
  — Joe Getty [31:45]

• “Hilarious. Propping up racism so they can claim there’s racism and raise boatloads of money. It’s their business model.”
  — Jack Armstrong [47:22]

• “The difference between humans and animals is that animals never allow a fool to lead the pack.”
  — Winston Churchill (quoted by Armstrong) [43:41]

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Notable Timestamps for Core Segments

• Ignoring the Iran Blockade: 03:09 – 06:08
• Societal Regression / Civic Disengagement: 06:08 – 10:12
• Short Video/Social Media Critique: 10:12 – 11:53
• Katie’s News Headlines Round-Up: 16:43 – 23:12
• SPLC Hate Group Exposé: 27:52 – 35:55
• Listener Mailbag & Philosophy: 43:11 – 46:47
• Printer Rage & Family Will Disputes: 15:42 – 16:43; 36:51 – 39:48
• Silicon Valley Lawsuit Teaser: 39:54 – 40:14

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Tone & Style

True to Armstrong & Getty’s regular style, the episode brims with biting satire, gallows humor, media criticism, frustration at American civic disengagement, and a genuine desire for more substantive discourse—all delivered at a brisk, conversational pace peppered with heartfelt asides and ridiculous jokes.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a quintessential Armstrong & Getty blend: serious news analysis, skeptical cultural commentary, absurd humor, and listener engagement. If you missed the show, this summary and the attributed quotes will bring you up to speed on the major stories, running jokes, and cultural critiques that dominated today’s conversation.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and get. Live from Studio C. Si, senor.

[Joe Getty]

Welcome to Little Friday. How y' all doing today? We are toiling under the title of

[Jack Armstrong]

the show, there's no Debate California Screwed up or the War Is Canceled for Low Ratings.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's a good one. What's that all about? The fact that nobody's paying attention?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, it's just. And it's entered kind of a static phase where Iran's not letting the ships through the strait and we're blockading their ports and just put the economic squeeze on them and just nobody's paying attention.

[Joe Getty]

This isn't static. This is not getting much reporting. I only heard it one place taken. In all the news today, we boarded three ships a thousand miles away from Iran in Asian waters full of Iranian oil. Why isn't that getting more attention? That seems like a big deal. It's not just the blockade around that little Strait of Hormuz. We're taking on ships on, you know, a long, long, long, long way away, making sure the oil doesn't get to India or China or wherever the heck it was headed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you're talking about a spin off to a very low rated show. So nobody's paying attention to the spin off either.

[Joe Getty]

Man, that seems like a big deal to me. I can't imagine that India and China

[Jack Armstrong]

are happy about that. And I'm in a bit of a mood because even the Wall Street Journal, which is generally editorially conservative, but they've got a lot of journal progressives, but they, they had a big article about the situation in the Strait and the blockade and the rest of it, and, and the entire thing was about how that could escalate. It could turn into violence, it could mean the return of violence, it could

[Joe Getty]

spiral out of control.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it was an alleged news article, not an editorial. But it never even mentioned that. Well, it's a specific strategy of putting the economic squeeze on the irgc, so they have to capitulate without violence. It just didn't even concede that truth. And it very much smacked of the 21st century or nobody's even curious about the facts or wants to know what's actually happening. They just want to go immediately to the debate, right to the spin room. Kind of frustrating.

[Joe Getty]

So here's my explaining away Trump stuff, three dimensional chess thing. I was Thinking about last night, if maybe all this back and forth and the big threats and then, you know, you delay again. Everything like that is to distract from the fact that we have a blockade in place on a major country and it kind of like, is flying under the radar. That's a major act of war to blockade a country and try to starve it out. And it, like, it's not even being seen as controversial because he's got all that other noise above it. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose that way or not, but it just kind of is flying under the radar. And I feel like if you didn't have all the other noise, there'd be protests in the street about blockading and children not getting their food or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. I. Gosh, I wish I could remember who wrote this. They deserve the discredit for it. It's from some former cabinet secretary or a Ben Rhodes type or something like that, a big heavyweight in Democratic politics who actually suggested, and this was this week, that, you know, the whole Iran thing was really just to distract from Epstein.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm like, oh, my Lord. Okay, all right. We're not. We've regressed as a country. We were a child, rose up on our feet. We fought the British. We were a scrappy young adult, and we achieved a little toughness and wisdom. And now we've regressed to, like, a second adolescence where we're just. Just snarling and sneering and hate everything again. And we just. We're not a serious people.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, well, what are you gonna do? Two more quick Iran things, and then I'll shut up about it, since, as Joe points out, nobody's interested. All over Tehran, there are giant billboards and wall murals saying control of the Strait of Hormuz will be Iran's forever. It's like trying to rally the people around this, like it's. It's ours and we control it sort of thing. And I don't know who's paying for that or putting those up, but that's interesting. And then the good news that Trump says Iran won't execute eight women after he demanded their release, part of the whole negotiations, he said, don't kill those eight women who varied in age from 16 to 34, I think protesters. One of them of accused of helping an injured protester. That's what they were going to be hung for.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Not unbelievable. Yeah. Country is that, anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

And of course, the brutes in Iran are saying, well, we're never going to execute them. We haven't conceded anything. They just lie about everything.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I'm glad they're not going to execute them. I'm guessing their stay in prison hasn't been violence free, but just. Just horrible. Absolutely horrible. All right, we ought to start the show officially just because this clip is going to lead us to more conversation from the debate last night in California. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is.

[Joe Getty]

How did it get to be Thursday, April 23, 2026? Where Armstrong are you getting? We approve of this program.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, let's begin then, officially, according to half CC rules and regulations. Here we go at Mark.

[Joe Getty]

What grade would you give him on homelessness? And what, if anything, would you do differently? You have 60 seconds.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm a notoriously tough grader, but I

[Joe Getty]

would probably give him a B on homelessness.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think this has been an easy problem to solve, but I do

[Joe Getty]

give him a lot of credit for calling attention to the problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

When he campaigned eight years ago, he was talking about housing when nobody else was. Wow. By the way, I'd love to be in your Katie if you get a beef. What Gavin Newsom's done on homelessness. My goodness, Amen to that. It's a zombie apocalypse around the radio ranch.

[Joe Getty]

The two Republicans gave Gavin Newsom an F on his efforts at doing something about the homeless situation. The Democrats all gave him B's or A's. Yeah, A's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, keeping in mind that their goal is to distribute as much cash to their cronies as is humanly possible. So on that level, Gavin Newsom absolutely

[Joe Getty]

deserves an A. I should just take my phone and go walk out around the radio station and you can see the success of the homeless program. And that didn't exist not that many years ago, and now it's just all over the place.

[Jack Armstrong]

It would take you roughly 20 minutes to compile a video so devastating as to reduce Katie Porter's claim to hilarious laughter. I mean, it would take you 20 minutes to produce that documentary total, including the walking.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, I thought it was interesting. I think it was. Was it the LA Times or the New York Times? Somebody writing about the California governor's race, Speaking of nobody caring. And this might be just a national problem in general, nobody cares. Nobody cares about the California governor race in California, let alone those you who live other places. According to the LA Times, it just all their polling shows people aren't paying attention. So don't pay attention to the war. Don't pay attention who's governor. What do we Pay attention to. I guess. Let us tick tock.

[Jack Armstrong]

Challenge of short videos. Short videos or whatever. That was unnecessarily harsh. Because they are entertaining, but we are dumbing ourselves down to the point of drooling morons.

[Joe Getty]

What kind of shark video do you watch?

[Jack Armstrong]

Sharks doing short videos. Short videos.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I thought you said videos.

[Jack Armstrong]

Short videos.

[Joe Getty]

Did you think he said shark, Katie? Yeah, we both thought you said shark.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, now I do enjoy a good shark video. Shark videos are exempt from short videos Sharpen because they're fascinating beasts. Katie.

[Katie Green]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nature's great survivors.

[Katie Green]

Shark videos. Shark videos.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I'm in favor of those. Sorry.

[Joe Getty]

Had a bit of a short bus sound to it. But

[Jack Armstrong]

you are right. We're.

[Joe Getty]

We are. We are all addicted. We want short, entertaining videos.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sharper.

[Joe Getty]

Otherwise, music, sports highlights, new dances, somebody falling down in an amusing way.

[Jack Armstrong]

A good price of the crotch kicking. The people taking a beating. Right? I watched a good beating video yesterday.

[Katie Green]

Oh, the Ring Camera Fails are my new favorites.

[Joe Getty]

Ring cannon fails. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Also strong genre. Yes, yes.

[Joe Getty]

Boat docking fails. There are so many things to pay attention to other than who's governor or war.

[Jack Armstrong]

Porch pirate pranks, a favorite of mine.

[Katie Green]

Oh, the exploding packages.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Often now. Faked up, though. It's all right.

[Joe Getty]

They sullied such an honored tradition, they ruined it.

[Jack Armstrong]

What about the sacred tradition? Yeah. Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

We're adopting people, so we're addicted to short shark videos. And that is our problem. Okay, so we've got Katie's headlines on the way and we'll get into more news. Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

Failed to mention that the person currently leading in the governor's race who was on the debate stage last night, Steve Hilton, is on our program in about an hour or so. So we will talk to him about state of things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Looking forward to that. Man, I'm scrambling. I'm running behind Partly because my printers being a little B this morning. You know, it's really driving me nuts is I keep thinking, all right, I got to do, like, the uninstall reinstall, just the complet reboot thing. But then every time I've given up on it, it clicks one more time, then starts to whir a little bit. And then I'm like, oh, okay, maybe it's working. And I look, no, it's not doing anything. All right, screw it. And then it clicks and whirs a little more. It's screwing with me.

[Joe Getty]

There's nothing I hate more than stuff like that. Nothing. Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

I'd rather have a broken bone than you need to update your software or this firmware doesn't match up with your current whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not communism, not racism.

[Joe Getty]

That's what I hate the most.

[Jack Armstrong]

Order a printer.

[Katie Green]

Order a new printer and then take that one outside.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, I've done it.

[Katie Green]

With a baseball bat.

[Joe Getty]

I've done it.

[Katie Green]

Such a good time.

[Joe Getty]

I've done it. I've posted the video. Smashed it into tiny pieces.

[Jack Armstrong]

Barbaric piece of crap. Wow. Wow. Oh, man. Somebody get this guy on the couch. Boiling anger. All right, let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green. Katie, hit it.

[Katie Green]

Alrighty. Starting with the Alphabet Network. ABC Maritime Tracking Group say Iranian oil is passing through the U.S. blockade. CNN, Iran said it received first fee from Strait of Hormuz tolls amid the stalemate with the United States.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the problem with that is that you got, like, every terrorist gang and criminal gang on Earth transmitting to the ships. Yeah, that's the IRGC. You need to wire us, like, 3 million bucks worth of bitcoin now. And. And we'll let you right through the straight horse, no problem. But every joker with a radio is doing it now, I guess.

[Katie Green]

Yeah. And NBC US Boards another tanker as Iran. As Iran blockade standoff snarls the Hormuz.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, and then we. We boarded those tankers a thousand miles away also. So how did they get through? Did they leave from a different port, or did they get through before the blockade? I'd like to know more details on that. Yeah, there.

[Jack Armstrong]

There might be a few leaking through, maybe for the reasons you cited, but it's not many.

[Katie Green]

From the New York Times. Navy Secretary is fired as infighting royals. The Pentagon.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it seems like a heck of a thing. The Navy. The Secretary of the Navy got fired in the midst of the biggest blockade we've attempted in since World War II.

[Jack Armstrong]

As this conflict was boiling up. Pete fired the. Was it the Secretary of the army or the head officer? The head general of the army. Really Cleaning house. And interestingly, this Phelan Whalen, the Secretary of the Navy, is a good friend of Trump's, too, but he'd been clashing

[Joe Getty]

with Pete, particularly not moving fast enough on the whole we need to build boats again thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Allegedly. Allegedly.

[Katie Green]

This one from the Hill House Judiciary Democrats demand Cash Patel take alcohol disorders test following the Atlantic report.

[Joe Getty]

All right, what's. What's the limit on how much you're allowed to drink to be in office? And when did that start?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, yesterday we learned, allegedly, his staff had to purchase like battering rams and the jaws of life to get into his office when he's so drunk you can't wake him up. But I'm more interested.

[Joe Getty]

I'm more interested in the FBI story. Now, I don't know if you have that one of him using the FBI to investigate a reporter who did a story about his girlfriend. About Cash Patel's girlfriend.

[Katie Green]

Oh, I saw something about that.

[Joe Getty]

If that happened, that'd be outrageous. And in keeping with the lots of things the FBI has done over many, many decades.

[Katie Green]

Jack, this one's for you from the Washington Post. Stressed just a couple of minutes of meditation a day can help.

[Joe Getty]

It does help. And if I ever skip it, which I don't very often, it's very noticeable very quickly. I swear by the meditation thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good.

[Katie Green]

From the New York Post. Invasive quote, crazy worms confirmed in California, and there's no way to kill them.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, that's a shame. Like, do they get into my body or into my garden?

[Katie Green]

No, they get into your garden, and they're called Asian jumping worms. And that's a good name. I saw a video. I saw a shark video. Shark video of these things. And they are.

[Joe Getty]

They look.

[Katie Green]

They look like cocaine worms.

[Joe Getty]

How high can they jump? I don't know. Like, eye level?

[Katie Green]

No, no. Like a couple inches.

[Joe Getty]

All right.

[Katie Green]

Higher than they should be able to.

[Joe Getty]

True.

[Jack Armstrong]

Higher than you want them to. Yes.

[Katie Green]

Yeah. USA Today. Another weird one. Goldfish earns Guinness World Record for driving.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, that is so clearly clickbait. I. I won't have it. I'm not.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not clicking on it.

[Katie Green]

Okay, well, an engineer created a motion sensing vehicle and put his goldfish named Blub inside of it. And the goldfish was able to make it move.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, then.

[Katie Green]

All right. Kind of cool.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Katie Green]

I thought it was neat.

[Jack Armstrong]

Goldfish. Yeah. Well, go watch a short video didn't

[Katie Green]

realize I was on the air with a bunch of naysayers today.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, nay, nay.

[Katie Green]

All right, here, how about this study finds nearly two in five Americans went no contact with a loved one this year.

[Joe Getty]

What was the percentage?

[Katie Green]

2 and 5?

[Jack Armstrong]

Like, what do you mean, went no contact?

[Katie Green]

Went no contact. Meaning they. They cut off a loved one rather than try to work through whatever the problem was. They just went no contact, cut him off.

[Joe Getty]

I know a couple people who did it. I do as well, so that rings true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. What is that a symptom of something?

[Joe Getty]

We'll have to talk about that later. I think it's a symptom of how connected we are. Texting and phones and everything like that. That if you want to distance yourself from someone, you have to.

[Jack Armstrong]

You almost have to do that.

[Joe Getty]

This.

[Jack Armstrong]

This.

[Katie Green]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Not like the old days where just, okay, I'm not sending you a letter again or calling, but there's just so many ways to get a hold of people. Anyway, we'll have to talk about that later. That's an interesting phenomenon.

[Katie Green]

Yeah. One note about this. It leaned very heavily towards Gen Z being the main.

[Joe Getty]

No way. You should. Should have told me to sit down before you told me that.

[Katie Green]

I. I'm sure, just knocked you right on your. On your hind. All right, Babylon B, here we go. New ayatollah agrees to surrender, but only if JD Vance wears this cute little sailor outfit.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

According to a big New York Times story that cites many insiders in Tehran, Weird Beard Jr. Is alive and kicking, but hidden deep, deep within the bowels of the complexes there with his doctors and nurses nursing his injuries.

[Joe Getty]

Does he have any say in anything?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, they described him as kind of the chairman of a board of directors who just always says yes to what the board says. And the board is the irgc.

[Joe Getty]

And I think it's kind of interesting that this story comes out now that they decided, hey, we got to let the world know he's still alive and calling some shots, as they are having a real. Who's in charge here? Problem right now.

[Katie Green]

Is he actually kicking? Because I thought his legs got blown off.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's an expression. Okay. So not to be taken literally. Alive and laying, lying, probably not doing

[Joe Getty]

a lot of kicking.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, not in the conventional sense.

[Joe Getty]

We will catch you up on more of the stories of the day. If you miss a segment, you get the podcast, Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

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podcast this Universe Puerto Rico has announced its second transgender contestant, Gabrielle Rodriguez Velaquez.

[Joe Getty]

Her talent writing her name in the snow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Craig well, well played. Oh, didn't see that coming.

[Joe Getty]

Also, later, AI robots can now beat us at ping pong. So there's another thing, another job they've taken. Best ping pong player is wouldn't have

[Jack Armstrong]

to be very good. I'm pretty mediocre, but goes to the AI robots.

[Joe Getty]

But what that means for their mobility and coordination. That's the thing. It's not winning a ping pong, it's

[Jack Armstrong]

oh, hey, and if I might tout the Armstrong and Getty on demand podcast. Yesterday, the 22nd of April, our four, we talked about an. Absolutely. This ends the discussion finish meta study of kids who get the sex change, hormones and surgeries and the rest of it and how it has been a miserable failure. It's a therapy. That's not a therapy. There's just no arguing otherwise at this point. It is done. Done, done. Again, that was our four of yesterday. You can get it via podcast Armstrong and get you on demand. You subscribe, it downloads automatically. Wouldn't that be luxurious?

[Joe Getty]

That was on Irf Day show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Correct.

[Joe Getty]

We have some breaking news that I wasn't planning on talking about. A lot of you hippies have been wanting this for a long time, you dope addicted hippies.

[Jack Armstrong]

What breaking news.

[Joe Getty]

The Trump administration has reclassified medical marijuana as a lower risk drug in an effort to boost medical research. Something that should have happened a long time ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would agree. It's all about research, not about teenagers ruining their brains. We got to figure out what this stuff does and what it doesn't do and, you know, get a little science behind it.

[Joe Getty]

So I want to revisit this story of paying racists to be racist so you can comment on how much racism there is. That was funny, got in yesterday with the splc. That'd be the Southern Poverty Law center, which my whole adult life mainstream media has been taking completely serious. A new report from the Southern Poverty Law center says white supremacy is the number one threat to America. And then all the politicians talk about it as if it's true.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are 20% more hate groups in the US than there were just five years ago.

[Joe Getty]

And if you're a news junkie, you probably have heard the story already that they were paying a bunch of people in different organizations various amounts of money. Now, whether or not this crosses the line into like, they're actually supporting the groups so that they could comment on how much racism was as opposed to like just like, you know, like the cops paying a stool pigeon in a, in a drug gang.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the SPLSC is saying, yeah, they were undercover operatives so we could keep an eye on these awful groups.

[Joe Getty]

Well, are you buying that? I don't know that I'm buying that.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, first of all, absolutely not.

[Joe Getty]

It was a lot of leadership in all these various groups. Now the one that's getting the most attention is how they Paid just shy of $2 million to a couple of dudes that ended up being involved in the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. That's the they will not replace us handful of doofuses marching around with torches.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

And then another doofus drove his car into the crowd and killed somebody, which is what got so much attention for this event. Otherwise it probably would have disappeared into the ether. Joe Biden says that seeing the veins bulging on those hateful people with the torches is what caused him to run for president. Of course, ignoring the fact that you have veins bulging in the exact same direction over the exact same issue on the campus of Columbia University, for instance, and you got nothing to say about it. But anyway, they were the splc, the Southern Poverty Law center was secretly bankrolling major figures in this group, including the guy, one of the people that was involved in planning it, like it was in the meetings on when we're going to have it and how we're going to pull it off. And then another guy who's picking people up and driving them to the rally. I mean, that's, that's pretty close to funding a racist rally so that you can then comment on how awful the racist rally is, isn't it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and again, you keep saying comment on it. The SPLC exists to raise money.

[Joe Getty]

That's all they do.

[Jack Armstrong]

They are a money laundering outfit. They're very highly rated. One of our listeners pointed out on Charity Navigator because they're, you know, they're, they're open, their accounting is open. They're, they're more than willing to have you look at the books. Although these were secret books, but yeah, they just, yeah, they have to have scary, scary right wingy groups to raise money so they, you know, finance them. I mean, if you're a chairman of turnout. All right, Jim, you're in charge of making sure there's a good sized crowd.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is on the employee of the SPLC. What are we doing here?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The FBI alleges that about $270,000 was paid between 2015 and 2023 by the SPLC to a source who is a member of the online leadership chat group that planned the rally, attended the event at the direction of the splc, made racist postings online under the supervision of the splc. The SPLC actually telling them what racist postings to make so that they could then go on cable news and say, and we've, we found these online. And then your point is then they fundraise off of that. But. Right, this is straight out of the

[Jack Armstrong]

the old timey book of the exterminator that would show up to your house and like toss cockroaches into the corner, say oh my goodness, you have a problem.

[Joe Getty]

That's the splc, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly what they are, right? I mean I'm not saying there are no hate groups, but please, they're inconsequential. They're useless. You worried about hate go on college campuses like Jack's. Jack pointed out.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I forgot to point point out the headline and where I'm getting this from. This is Dan McLaughlin's piece in the National Review and his headline is SPLC indicted for gain of function Research into racism. Which is pretty clever.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is good.

[Joe Getty]

That is pretty clever. Other dubious recipients with leadership positions in extremist groups allegedly included a former Imperial wizard of the United Clans of America. A person who led the National Socialist Party of America. That would be your Nazis. Was the former director of a faction of the Aryan Nations, A former chairman of the national alliance which is a super right wing whites. The reported national president of American Front who was a convicted federal felon for his participation in a cross burning and a Klan member who is the spouse of a different exalted Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan. It's nice that those two people got together and got married. They found love.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, if you were going for an office in the clan, would you want to be an exalted Cyclops or a Grand Imperial Dragon? Tough choice.

[Joe Getty]

Those are good titles.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

In other words, Dan McLaughlin writes, this wasn't just a matter of paying the small fish in these groups to rat out the big ones. The SPLC was allegedly bankrolling the leaders. It's hard to argue that that's played no role in helping such fringe organizations which by their natural run on a financial. They run on a financial shoestring. Because there's not much support for them out there.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, because they're stupid and tend to

[Joe Getty]

be led by the kind of people who not employed in prestigious fields. In other words, stupid. So you got stupid people with no money. You, you bring in smart people and give them money. It's pretty hard to claim that that didn't help the racist group become a big enough thing that then you could go on MSNBC and say our latest studies show that there are more white supremacy groups than ever because you're paying

[Jack Armstrong]

them and they're more active than ever. Their their rallied drew 140 people thanks to our efforts. They are tossing mouse dung in the corner of the restaurant Then shrieking, oh, you need our services. It's so blatant.

[Joe Getty]

It really is. It's a guy who carries around cockroaches in his pocket.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh man. And the mainstream media, of course, just

[Joe Getty]

laps it up, the paying the leadership of these things.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know.

[Joe Getty]

If you really cared about white supremacy and hate groups and everything like that, I mean, if you can get to the leadership, you'd want to try to like, like shut down the organization, stop them, stop the big rally and all that sort of stuff. Not fund them and make sure more people show up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Well, if the leadership is that riddled with agents of the splc, why don't they just quit? And then you wouldn't have an organization at all. Right. If you're willing to turn, you know, turncoat and inform the SPLC you're really not that into your organization.

[Joe Getty]

It reminds me a little of that, that so called kidnapping plot about Gretchen or the governor, Michigan, where there were so many FBI agents involved. some point you just gotta think, if we weren't here, would this even be happening?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

So I think the same thing with like the Charlottesville rally. If you didn't have the guy who planned it, the guy who was leading it, the guy that was making all the racist posts online and the guy who drove by everybody's houses to pick them up and take them to the rally, Would it have even happened? Is a good question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, splc, this is Clem. We've run out of money to buy torches. Can you send us another five grand to buy torches? Because we feel like if we don't have tiki torches, it's not going to be nearly scary. All right, all right. God dang it. We'll send you another 5k. They better be good looking torches.

[Joe Getty]

I can't wait till this actually goes to trial and we learn more about

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

So then do you gotta like actually figure out like down to the details like who gets my watch or you know, your golf clubs or all that stuff?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's entirely up to you.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but you can customize, but you don't have to. No, because who wants to think about this?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Right. Yeah. It's which kid do you like better? Is that how you do, rank them or what?

[Joe Getty]

Maybe have a foot race. We're gonna have a foot race this Saturday afternoon. Whoever is the fastest gets my stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

That would be interesting. My son is very tall. I give him the, the edge. Yeah. At some point I may write up something more specific. It's the. But it's the big stuff that matters. Tears families apart. My daughter was working in interning for a family law firm over the summer, last summer, and one of her good law school buddies was doing the same thing, but family law for like indigent folks or folks with no money to pay lawyers that the state would pay and stuff. And oh my God, the discord, the soap opera, the anger, the hatred. People like tearing themselves apart over, you know, the inconsequential amount of money and like wanting to spend 500 so he doesn't get $200. Oh, it's amazing, right?

[Joe Getty]

I've, I've personally known several people that like don't speak to their brother or their mom or whoever anymore because of this sort of thing. And it can get very ugly very fast. I mean, just a couple of examples that I know of, I think that are common are. So we're going to split this equally. Even though I lived near mom and dad and took care of them all the time and you never had to do anything, anything, you know, that sort of conversation.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, hey, you got to put in writing. Trustinwill.com Armstrong20 off or the other side

[Joe Getty]

of that being the you only went. You don't even like mom. The only reason you went over to her house and made dinner for every Sunday was because of this. I've heard that one.

[Jack Armstrong]

To get more in the wheel.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no. Dysfunction. Dysfunction junction. What's your function? I have my favorite new phrase. And then we really got to take a break. But evidently there's a court case that's working its way to trial. Bitter, bitter fight between Elon Musk and Sam Altman and a couple of other players involved like the super heavyweights of tech, including Jeff Bezos and what's his name. Satan appears in it as well. Zuckerberg. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Old scratch.

[Jack Armstrong]

Old scratch. And the the description by one tech. I think he was a journalist. Oh, no, he's a lawyer. He said we're about to witness the landing of the Hindenburg on the deck of the Titanic.

[Joe Getty]

Awesome.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's. That's some really good imagery. We know it's going to be crazy and nasty. We'll have a preview preview for you coming up.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I look forward to that. We need something new to talk about. That's fantastic. We'll get to that now. Or two. We got Mailbag. Next.

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[Joe Getty]

want to hear that battle between Elon and Altman and Zuckerberg and Bezos and all that sort of stuff. We'll get into that now. Or two too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Things are getting weird and they're getting weird fast. Allegations of drug use, sexual impropriety. Disgusting. Can't wait to get to it.

[Joe Getty]

What's that got to do with anything?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it's, it's. It's lurid and exciting. That's what it has. It's entertainment. Yes. Bread circuses. Yummy, yummy bread yummy Circuses. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. There's something something in this for everybody. Darren from Clover Tucky sent this one along from the great Winston Churchill. The difference between humans and animals is that animals never allow a fool to lead the pack.

[Joe Getty]

Ah, like Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shouts half the population. Like Biden and Cumberland Swell. Will. Shouts the other half of the population.

[Joe Getty]

Excellent point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Something for everyone there. Hope you enjoyed it. Mailbag. Please feel free to drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetty.com Tom let's start with philosophy and move on to grim reality. Adam has been listening for 21 years now. Thank you Adam. Goodness sakes, my Son is in the naval boot camp in Great Lakes and misses his daily dose. Dose of ag. Yeah, I know that center very well there on Lake Michigan. Your thoughts and discussions on culture. I heard you quote GK Chesterton. Have you read or heard of his Cascade Idea? It goes something like this. Theology flows to philosophy, which flows to ethics, which flows to culture, which flows to institutions and practices. Or what you believe about God, what you believe about the truth, what you believe is right and wrong. How people live, what society becomes. I have a hard time not seeing this head and have traveled and worked

[Joe Getty]

in 16 different countries that would fit in with that book Dominion, about how we're all swimming in the culture of Christianity, whether you're a believer or not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Funny you should mention that. Or perfectly appropriate you should mention that. He says. I'm reading and loving Dominion by Tom Holland. As a pastor, the question I wrestle with is can we maintain what are essentially Christian values without embracing the Christian faith?

[Joe Getty]

Your thoughts? Excellent question. Well, I guess we'll find out. Although people are flying back to the. The stricter churches. Your Orthodox church. Your Catholic church. Young people are digging it.

[Jack Armstrong]

My thoughts, Adam, to dovetail with Jax, is that is one of the most essential and fascinating questions ever asked. And. And maybe we'll spend a little more time on it later. But it's a great question. Maybe, is the answer.

[Joe Getty]

How's that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, our super.

[Joe Getty]

Our super smart atheist friends believe that.

[Katie Green]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

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[Joe Getty]

The structures of society don't need all that fairy tales of Christianity for it to work. But no, society has shown this yet, as far as I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. They would argue there can be morality without religion. We'll see. Let's see. On the topic of the Chinese toilet car, which we discussed yesterday in China, I can understand it. You should look up traffic jams in China. You can literally be stuck for 24 hours in Chinese.

[Joe Getty]

That's why they invented the toilet in the car. They have traffic jams way longer than ours. Yep. Okay. That makes sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Let's see. Okay. It's about Trump not winning the war, writes another Jay in San Jose. Let's now Democrats talk about the war with Iran. They say Trump is losing. Trump is being manipulated. Trump doesn't know what he's doing to them. This is about Trump, not American safety or the world order. Shipping, commerce. Our political scientists have made a fatal error in their voter behavior calculations. They assume an informed and rational voter. For the most part, we are not.

[Joe Getty]

True.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's absolutely true. Yeah. Let's see. That's very serious. Let's go back to this. The splc. Ryan from Houston writes dear four men and one pregnant lady recognized as a hate group according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Yeah, we probably are a hate group. The SPLA seems to have down the same tactic that when government agencies are sending in undercover agents only to arrest other undercover agents. Anyway, screw the splc. Yeah, yeah, agreed. Hilarious. Propping up racism so they can claim there's racism and raise boatloads of money. It's their business model.

[Joe Getty]

It's worked. We got a lot of good stuff lined up for hour two, including we're to talk to Steve Hilton, the current leaving leading contender to be governor of California, who participated in the debate last night. We'll talk to him about how it went. And he still got his beard, which I think is a good movie. Move all that now or two if you missed the segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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