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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. OpenAI revealed a new tool called deep research at an event over the weekend that can scan the Internet and compile a report which can be used for.
Joe Getty
Important research like, is your ex doing better than you? Wow, that's fantastic. Oh, I left one thing out yesterday when I was talking about. So I listened to one of Lex Friedman's three hour podcasts with some of the smartest AI people in the world and they were downplaying AI's threat to mankind more than I had heard anybody around. How much energy it's going to take and how much GPU power it's going to be necessary to do the things the technology will exist, but it's hard to imagine that we're going to have the energy to pull off this major world transformation. The money is the other thing. There's just no way to make it profitable yet to where anybody would actually want to do it. You could do it, but you just couldn't make money on it. And you know, if Google or Microsoft or whatever can't make money off it, by the way, everybody's betting on Google. Everybody says Google will win. He threw out the question to all these people, who's going to win the race between chat GPT and OpenAI and China? Google. Google's going to be the winner.
Jack Armstrong
Interesting. Yeah, yeah, I'm somewhat. I don't know as much about this topic as my dog knows about running an NFL offense, but they laughed at Bezos for years and years. Amazon money, it'll never make money.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I used to laugh at it.
Jack Armstrong
So how these things scale, I can't even imagine.
Joe Getty
No, but man, they. Lex Freeman made some good examples. He said, how much money is the airline spending on the best they can possibly do, all the airlines and hotels for having the best possible, you know, AI type interaction with you. And it still is horrible, just freaking horrible trying to book a room through one of those things.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
I mean, that's where we are currently.
Jack Armstrong
And you made the point earlier. What was your example of how it's clearly not ready?
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, I just googled when is the Oscar voting? Or I voice texted to Google, when is the Oscar voting? And it said, when is the Oscar Boating. It's on. I said boating now. You don't have to be very smart to figure out. I probably said voting. I mean, that's not like, you know, very, very high level of intelligence. But they're not where they could immediately. I think about that all the time when I'm Googling stuff or voice texting or whatever. And I think nobody would use this phrase. The phrase everyone uses all the time. You didn't guess. So I don't know if you're ready to take over the world yet.
Jack Armstrong
And yet. He says decisively, and yet you have things like this. And this is so nuts. I'm going to. I meant to ask Hanson and Michael to get this audio. I'm going to play it through my phone into the microphone, then I'll explain it to you. Hang on. There we go. That is a. How long is this, like three minute long North Korean propaganda song about a Harry Potter character who rises to become like the next Kim Jong Un with perfectly rendered AI animation of Harry Potter and Ron and Hermione as little North Koreans waving magic wands. I mean, it is almost perfect now, first of all, you got what, 25,000 days on the earth, whatever the figure is. I don't know. I haven't done the math lately.
Joe Getty
About 36,000, I think they usually get.
Jack Armstrong
There you go. Lifespans are increasing and you spend your time putting together a North Korean propaganda film Harry Potter parody. Anyway, credit for thinking of it, but. And then this other example. And this. This hurts my heart in a way. Somebody used AI typed in the right prompts to redo the Beatles Revolver, which is, you know, recognized by some as their greatest album, one of the greatest albums in rock music pop music history, as a Motown album, complete with the COVID art and all, which is not that adventurous. But here, ladies and gentlemen, is AI hey, do the Beatles Revolver album in as a Motown. Let's start with Drive My Car. Asked a girl what she wanted to be she said, baby, can't you see I wanna be famous or star the screen but you can do something in between Baby, you can drive.
Joe Getty
That's incredible. That was the entire prompt.
Jack Armstrong
No, I don't know what the entire prom prompted, but that's incredible. Michael. Next clip. No human beings involved. Michelle. My bell. These are words that go together well.
Joe Getty
My Michelle.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, Michelle. And what I'd really like to do is, music wise, dig into this. Because the melodies are essentially the same. Some of the chords around them have changed to fit a Motown sound, which is like, crazy. One more.
Joe Getty
There are places I remember. That's amazing, though.
Donald Trump
Some have changed.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And even if the guy had to do half a page of prompts and his computer just spit this out, probably hell, we're through The Looking Glass.
Joe Getty
Yeah, but, you know, so first of all, this. I was just doing the math real quick. I don't remember. There's a famous song about 36,000 days you have, but that's obviously not right. I thought the math. That can't be. So that's. If you live to be 98. You're not going to live to be 98. I'm not.
Jack Armstrong
There's a Moody Blues song called 22,000 Days, which I enjoyed in the 80s.
Joe Getty
I think if you lived it, what's 78 roughly life expectancy now? Right. So that'd be about 29,000 days. 29,000 days, which I think is an interesting number to keep in mind on a regular basis. I got 29,000 days. Do I want to spend one of them doing this? But anyway, back to the AI. I was believing a lot of the stuff, you know, I believe the last podcast I heard from the latest experts, but I was believing a lot of the stuff that AI could do. A lot of the experts I was listening to the other day think they're so far away from solving a lot of the really difficult things the human brain is capable of. It's amazing what human brains do. It's just stunning. On things. Like, I always use the example of doing laundry, the whole laundry experience. We're nowhere near where I could do laundry, which, you know, is a menial task that if you're a certain sort of person, you know, you can hire people for very low wages to do for you, but it involves a ton of decisions and knowledge about, you know, the, the colors, the whites and which kids room these go in and which drawer they go in. Oh, there's a stain on that. I better put some spray. I mean, there's just so many decisions. Loading a dishwasher was the example Lex Friedman was using. Oh, yeah, that's right. I let the spaghetti sit out on the table. It's probably going to be hardened. I better scrape that first. I mean, just so many things that.
Jack Armstrong
I train a person of very, very modest intelligence to handle that job.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Whereas something like the song is so mathematical. Complicated, but mathematical in terms of figuring out, you know, this. That these things and putting them. Put them various together and. And like the. They were using the example on this podcast. I thought this was a good one. Booking a trip. When will I be at the. Where it could book your trip, like really do it, where you don't have to like completely check the work to the point that you might as well have done it yourself. And there's a lot of complexity in the van, which, you know, airline. No, I don't want that airline. I flew with them last time and they tend to get delayed in the winter in Denver. And is AI gonna figure that out or. You know, I tend to like a room on the second floor because the first floor, the lights are going to shine in my eyes or whatever it is. There's just a gazillion different things that you think of that I just, I don't. I can't imagine that AI is going to get there.
Jack Armstrong
And it's interesting because I've heard booking a trip mentioned many, many times as something I can do for you now. But those are the subtle.
Joe Getty
Not. Not in a way that you wouldn't have to double check all its decisions.
Jack Armstrong
Right. Interesting. Oh, speaking of interesting, this is. I was skeptical at the time. We had a bunch of hardcore tech people send the same article. The big news about Chinese startup Deep Seek. How they shock the world with their advanced AI model on $6 million and only a few GPUs. One of your most respective analyst firms reports that the company Behind Deepseek incurred $1.6 billion in hardware costs and has a fleet of 50,000 Nvidia Hopper GPUs. A finding that undermines the idea that Deep Sea reinvented AI training in inference with dramatically low investment than the leaders of the.
Joe Getty
So not five and a half million, right?
Jack Armstrong
No, no, no. 1.6 billion. And, and not 2,000 chips. 50,000 chips. And not the cheapo chips. The really good.
Joe Getty
Are you, are you, are you trying to tell me that the Chinese lied?
Jack Armstrong
Jack, I want you to brace yourself. They lied about every single aspect of this like they do about everything all.
Joe Getty
The time because they had the lowest COVID death rate of anyone in the world.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that's a good one.
Joe Getty
By the way, one more quick thing on AI. If you ever feel bad about what you know or don't know about AI. Nobody knows nothing. I mean there's the specifics of stuff, but the how it's going to affect the world and when it's going to be able to do this or that, everybody's freaking guessing. You can find an expert who has dedicated their lives to this, who agrees with every point of view.
Jack Armstrong
So I've got to admit, as you were describing, listening for that length of time, I was thinking, I'm not sure I could hang in there because there's so much speculation. But if the speculating is interesting, then it's interesting.
Joe Getty
Well, yeah, I want to see the variety of speculation. And it's all over the place. I mean, all over the place. From it'll take over the world in two years to it'll never amount to anything and everything in between. So sit back and wait, I guess. Invest accordingly.
Jack Armstrong
So it's looking like RFK Jr. And Tulsi Gabbard might be in as cabinet members. I just came across a list of some of the crack pottery that RFK Jr has spouted through the years. I mean, it's impressive.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's not the thing, though. I was talking about somebody with this yesterday. Educated person with an educated wife. We brought this up the other day. Megan McCain mentioned it. Women across America, lots of women. The whole Covid thing, vaccine thing, kids health thing, that's the whole story. They don't care about all this other stuff that he said over the years. That's where the Maha army comes from. I didn't like the government jamming these vaccines on my kids. I didn't like the schools shutting down around this. I don't like what my kids are eating. I don't like the fact that every family I, I know has an autistic kid. That's what's driving it. I don't think he can come up with a thing because he has said a lot of nutty things.
Jack Armstrong
Well, let's, let's touch on a couple of them. But why? Even if he is half a crackpot, it was a good idea for Trump to appoint him, according to one of my favorite commentators. Insightful.
Joe Getty
That's a good one. Oh, we got to get back to. We're going to invade Gaza. Did you hear that? Marines in Gaza invade it.
Jack Armstrong
We're going to own it.
Joe Getty
Marines will be booking trips. I'm on my way, so. AI chatgpt, book my trip to Rafa. Stay tuned.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Bill Gates is responsible for Microsoft Office and the Xbox, which means thanks to him, we have some of the most and least productive people on Earth.
Joe Getty
I'm looking at the headline on CNN. Trump does away with 80 years of Mideast policy in one day. Hasn't worked very well.
Jack Armstrong
So an odd criticism.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it is. It really is. Us having Marines and Rafa taking over Gaza. A non starter. And he doesn't mean it and never did and it's not going to stay with us. But the fact that does away with 80 years of mini spells. Okay, good. Fine.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Wow. Oh, that's too bad.
Joe Getty
More of what Trump said on the way Next segment.
Jack Armstrong
Yes. Are we going to take over Rafa or Gaza? Stay with us. So it is my opinion closely held that JFK Jr. RFK Jr. Rather is. He's half a crackpot and he is a trial lawyer who says a lot of incendiary things to make money. Always has been. And a list of the things he said in the fairly recent past. Famously, America's meat producers are greater threats to the US and democracy than Osama bin Laden, etc. That was less than a year after 911 by the way. He was in the midst of a class action. He was trying to get class action lawsuits going against meat producers for their alleged environmental carelessness. He's a huge super lefty environmentally. He accused climate deniers of being traitors and proposed that they should face criminal prosecution in global courts. And he has praised censorship of misinformation. He praised the benefits of COVID lockdowns. At length, how it reduced. It's not just slowed COVID 19 it reduced lethal air pollution and mortality. Blah blah blah. Let's see. He supported single parasocialized medicine and abortion until the moment the child's head emerges. He has refused to take side as sides on 911 conspiracy theories, but called the NRA a terrorist organization. Said Covid was engineered to attack black and Caucasian people, but to spare Ashkenazi Jews that would be European type Jews. Claim that no vaccine is safe and effective, including others. He's walked all of most of this back. Wants all fossil fuel energy shut down, also all nuclear energy. I could go on. There's more. Well, I've even gotten to the fluoride and the autism and the rest.
Joe Getty
That's why Trump for instance, specifically said I'm gonna let him go nuts on the food, but I'm keeping him away from energy. And I think what else? And everybody laughed because he doesn't agree with him on that.
Jack Armstrong
Exactly. In the 60 seconds or so we have left, one of my favorite thinkers made the point that he's in favor of the appointment with some pretty good fencing in for reasons of the coalition, the Make America Healthy coalition, the anti lockdown and very skeptical of vaccines people. I'm not sure how the two of them have met, but they have anyway. That's part of the coalition that got him elected. And almost like in a parliamentary system, it's just smart politics to pay some respect to that part of your coalition. So it's savvy. And as he's the. The big cheese and, and the Kennedy branch of things, it's not the majority but it's significant. He has it both ways. Smart politics.
Joe Getty
So we'll reset the big story of the day. Trump talking about the United States taking over Gaza and sending the Palestinians somewhere else. They can come back after we've turned it into a golf course or whatever. If you haven't heard this stuff, it's pretty dang good on the way.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
Donald Trump
I think that Gaza maybe is a demolition site right now. If you look at Gaza, it's all. I mean, there's hardly a building standing and the ones that are, are going to collapse. You can't live in Gaza right now. And I think we need another location. I think it should be a location that's going to make people happy.
Jack Armstrong
Mr. President, given what you've said about Gaza, did the US send troops to.
Joe Getty
Help secure the security vacuum?
Donald Trump
As far as Gaza is concerned, we'll do what is necessary.
Joe Getty
Wow, quite a news day yesterday. If you take him at his word, it's insane. I don't take him at his word, but even just directionally, and I don't mean he's lying, it's just that's the way he does things. He overstates stuff, then, you know, we fall somewhere in between. It's the way he negotiates everything. But just directionally, it's quite a news day. And here's a little back and forth. Trump announcing yesterday that the United States would take control of Gaza.
Donald Trump
You look over the, over the decades, it's all death in Gaza. This has been happening for years. It's all death. If we can get a beautiful area to resettle people permanently and nice homes and where they can be happy and not be shot, not be killed, not be knifed to death like what's happening in Gaza. And right now you have in Gaza a very dangerous situation in terms of explosives all over the place, in terms of tunnels that nobody knows who's in the tunnel, the whole thing is a mess.
Joe Getty
Well, that's true. I mean, the place is just rubble.
Jack Armstrong
And 20,000 unexploded ordinances. Ordinance. Or do you say ordinances? Bombs, According to some estimates. I think, I really think. I don't want to get ahead of the discussion here because we have more audio to play.
Joe Getty
But go whatever direction you want. I don't care.
Jack Armstrong
I would love to have heard what Trump and Netanyahu said in private because it had something to do with, we are going to clean out Gaza. Clean it out.
Joe Getty
Israel saying that or us saying, yes.
Jack Armstrong
Israel saying that, and Trump essentially saying, all right, how does it look, how do we help? Because the situation is untenable and this is, this is revolutionary talk. This is insane talk to like, you know, 85% of people who look at Israel's relationship with the Palestinian people. Because like all of the world is assuming, no, we'll just keep doing what we've done. Uneasy peace, spasms of horrific violence, then a new accord that's abandoned two years later and then we'll just keep going like that. And Bibi is saying, no, we're not.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it's, it's possible. Benjamin Netanyahu, the longest serving prime minister in Israeli history, who's a very old man, could be thinking, this is going to be my legacy. I'm going to end this problem once and for all. And I don't care what political price I pay for it or any kind of price I pay for it. This is what I'm going to do. Could be.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. Their peace plan is they're going to completely defeat and perhaps remove their enemy.
Joe Getty
Play, play 46. Because I think it does have a lot to do with some of the countries there on the border. Will you continue to press for this.
Jack Armstrong
Idea that Jordan and Egypt take Palestinians from Gaza?
Donald Trump
Yeah, I would like to see Jordan, I'd like to see Egypt take some. Look, the Gaza thing has not worked. It's never worked. And I feel very differently about Gaza than a lot of people. I think they should get a good, fresh, beautiful piece of land and we get some people to put up the money to build it and make it nice and make it habitable and enjoyable.
Jack Armstrong
Somewhere else. The guy tried to clarify, that's what they're talking about. They're talking about massive relocation. And in case you're not hip to this, Jordan and Egypt and every other country in the region, Lebanon is saying no friggin way we're taking. These people are revolutionary Islamist lunatics. We don't want them in our country. And those are the Arab Muslim countries in the land.
Joe Getty
So where are they going to go? A couple million people?
Jack Armstrong
I'm glad I'm not in charge of this. I have no idea.
Joe Getty
The idea that they should have nice houses, you know, in safe neighborhoods. Okay, sure. How is that going to happen?
Jack Armstrong
The best I can guess is that I don't, I honestly don't know. I mean, even if you evict everybody from Gaza and then let them in on a case by case basis, I, it's, that's what it looks like to me.
Joe Getty
Yeah. See, because I, even though I'm really into quantum physics, and the whole complications around being in two places at the same time and all this different sort of stuff, it seems to me that the people need to be somewhere in the interim million.
Jack Armstrong
It's just not. Here is the answer.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that's easier said than done.
Jack Armstrong
Grodinger's Palestinian. Exactly what you're saying.
Joe Getty
Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. This is like I say, I think a decision was made keeping in mind that Trump just gets four years and then maybe J.D. vance or somebody takes over and the policies can really take shape and flower. I think Trump and Netanyahu came to a gigantic, pivotal agreement.
Joe Getty
Well, so ultimately it's about Iran. That's who funds Hamas, funded Hezbollah. That's the big country in the area that wants Israel to disappear. So while he was signing some executive orders in the middle of the day, Trump offhandedly remarked that he has standing orders that he's already signed that if Israel, if Iran assassinates him, we will obliterate Iran. Said, I've got. We've got orders. I've signed them. This is what's going to happen. We will wipe Iran off the map if they assassinate me. Okay, fine. And then he also said as part of that, it's the reporters, because he takes questions. I know that Kamala Harris didn't and Joe Biden didn't, but Donald Trump takes tons of questions from a hostile media every single day. Like, every day they were asking him about the bomb, Iran. You know, there are reports, the Economist says that Iran is just a couple of days away from having what they need to make a bomb if they decide to break out, as they call it, and try to get a bomb. And Trump said, it's very simple with me. We're not going to allow Iran to have a bomb. And I think he means that. I don't think it's like Joe Biden saying, don't. I have one word, don't. That means go ahead. But I think Trump means it. But then after having said all that stuff about wiping them off the map, they ain't getting a bomb, no way. Then he tweets out, or, yeah, tweeted out, I want Iran to be a great and successful country, but one that cannot have a nuclear weapon. Reports that the United States, working in conjunction with Israel is going to blow Iran into smithereens are greatly exaggerated in all caps. I would much prefer a verified nuclear peace agreement which let Iran peacefully grow and prosper. We should start working on it immediately and have a big Middle east celebration when it is Signed and completed. God bless the Middle East. He says, wow, God forsake the Middle East. God bless the Middle East. So after saying that, tough talk about Iran, he puts this, Amiga, make the.
Jack Armstrong
Middle east great again. Okay?
Joe Getty
He puts this out that rumors that we're going to blow Iran to smithereens are greatly exaggerated.
Jack Armstrong
So, well, I remember I was watching live as he was signing the executive order putting harsh new sanctions on Iran. I mean, really, really squeezing them. And he, he went way down the road of. This pains me, I wasn't sure whether I even wanted to do this, because I think we could have an agreement and they could be great as a country, but I guess I gotta do it. I don't know. I mean, he's really, really signaling to any moderate faction in Iran. Now, now, now. So we'll have to see. So, of course, his announcement of Trump National Gaza Golf Resort eclipsed all of that news. So very few people are talking about it.
Joe Getty
Have you seen some of the. Because with AI, you can create this so easily. Show me Gaza with a golf course on it. Have you seen some of those memes? They look fantastic.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yes, absolutely.
Joe Getty
It's a really nice part of the world that could have, you know, some of the best real estate on the planet.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, sorry, I was just going to say I've. I've seen a number of pictures of Gaza, pre Islamist revolution. It's freaking gorgeous. It's Malibu. Yeah, it's a little sandier than Malibu. The architecture is a little different, but it's Malibu.
Joe Getty
I mean, that guy with the winter coat over there might have explosives underneath it. You gotta try to take care of that somehow.
Jack Armstrong
Well, there's that. Yeah.
Joe Getty
I had another point to make. Oh, so you kind of brought this up earlier. Your timeline was longer than mine on this question. In a week, is somebody going to say, hey, whatever happened with that whole Gaza thing? I mean, are we going to be saying that in a week? You are wondering, like in a couple of years, in a week, are we going to be saying that? Is it just going to disappear? Like a lot of things.
Jack Armstrong
Tell you what, this one is so interesting because the idea of America taking over the Gaza Strip is just looney tunes, but often it's a directional indication of where he wants to go. Like the Panama thing mentioned earlier. We're going to take over the Panama Canal by military force if we need to. Well, Marco Rubio went in and talked and finalized some deals with the Panamanian leadership, saying, hey, we're super concerned about the Chinese control at each end of the canal. It really violates our agreements with you. What can we do to make sure they can never blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we very quickly came to an absolutely terrific agreement from what I've read with the Panamanians. Likewise, I have no doubt that we will get what we need from Greenland strategically and make it very, very much worth the while of the folks in Greenland. We're not going to invade freaking Greenland. But the problem is comparing this Gaza thing to those is that the ultimate goal and the ultimate solution was very easy to describe in both of those cases. Here it's not, I don't, I don't know what's. What we, we get with whoever succeeded Yahya Sinwar when the drone sent him to go meet Allah. What is he gonna say? You know what, this whole hating the Jews thing, it is so 2024. I tell you what, this is a beautiful spit of land. Like Donnie Trump said, let's develop it and be reasonable to get.
Joe Getty
That's not whole hating the Jews thing.
Jack Armstrong
You know, the one thing I wanted to get on and forgot. Michael48 Benjamin Netanyahu, if you need him.
Joe Getty
President taking it to a much higher level. He sees a different, he sees a different future for that piece of land that has been the focus of so much terrorism, so much, so many attacks against us, so many, so many trials and so many tribulations. Relations.
Jack Armstrong
You can tell he's ad libbing like crazy.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, he's trying to figure out.
Jack Armstrong
What'S going on there.
Joe Getty
I don't, I don't know. It's a hell of a thing. So on one hand, as regularly say, you can't blame the media for taking the President of the United States seriously when he says things. On the other hand, experience would show that that's not the way to play Donald Trump. Exactly. That's why Mark Cin says he's the hardest to cover president ever. Because all of that is true. You should be able to take the president, his words, we're going to take over Gaza and then write down he's going to take over Gaza and then have some experts on to discuss what that would be like. But that's not going to happen and he doesn't mean it. So, so, so that's why when I flip on Fox this morning, they're all laughing about it. You said, what do you suppose is going to happen? They're all just chuckling about all this sort of stuff. You flip on MSNBC and they've got military experts and environmental experts and all these different people actually looking at what Gaza would be like if we tried to take it over. As if it's going to happen and it's not.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. But what is going to happen? Okay, different topic. Are you a racing fan? What's your favorite? You like the Daytona 500? You like the Kentucky Derby? My favorite race is White People State. Oh, my Lord. That was a joke, ladies and gentlemen. Although I know a lot of nice white people. Just saying, my favorite race is which US State will go bankrupt first. And every time I think my adopted home state of California was going to be first across the finish line. The state where I grew up, Illinois, says, not so fast. We're going to go bankrupt first. A major headline, a major move on that front.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Stay with us.
Joe Getty
Wow, what a. What a fun race. Stay with us.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. It's a great honor, I think, you know, no matter who the president is, I know I'm excited because it's the biggest game of my life, you know, and having the president there, you know, it's the best country in the world.
Joe Getty
That's Taylor Swift's boyfriend. Being asked about the fact that Donald Trump is going to attend the Super Bowl. First time a sitting president has ever attended a game. He made the wise decision to say, regardless of who I was, the president, it's an honor. Wonder why he called it the biggest game of his life. Because they could win three in a row. Because he's played in four Super Bowls now.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
I'm like, maybe.
Donald Trump
Maybe he'll be his last one.
Joe Getty
No, he said the other day, because.
Jack Armstrong
He'S gonna get his super bowl ring and put it on Tay Tay's finger. We don't have time for this foolishness. We do not have time would fit over her leg. I think probably both of them. We need to get to this instead. The president. Clip 15, Michael. And get the next one ready.
Donald Trump
One of the things I want to investigate rapidly because I've never seen anything to this extent. The train that's being built between Los Angeles and San Francisco is the worst managed project I think I've ever seen, and I've seen some of the worst. Billions and billions. Hundreds of billions of dollars over budget. In fact, I read where you could take every single person that was going to go on the train and get the finest limousine service in the world and take them back and forth with limousines, and you'd have hundreds of billions of dollars left over.
Jack Armstrong
And he goes on to say, it.
Donald Trump
Is the worst thing and we're going to Start an investigation of that because it's not possible. I built for a living and I built on time, on budget. It's impossible that something could cost that much. And now it's not even going to San Francisco and it's not going to Los Angeles. They made it much shorter. So now it's at little places way away from San Francisco and way away from Los Angeles. Now we're going to start a big investigation because it's. I've never seen anything like it. Nobody has ever seen anything like it. The worst overruns that there have ever been in the history of our country.
Jack Armstrong
And this is.
Donald Trump
I laugh.
Jack Armstrong
It's getting well done, Michael. This is good news for Cal Unicornians because if the federal money dries up completely, then they've got to abandon the giant fraud that is the bull spit train.
Joe Getty
The rest of the country, your tax dollars go into this fraud. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, yeah. If you're not familiar with it, the bullet train from L. A To San Francisco is now kind of a regular speed train from the outskirts of Merced to suburban Bakersfield or something like that. Look at a map. If you don't know the geography of California, and why would you? But folks around the country, beware. State of Illinois, major move now to get a bullet train going in. J.B. pritzker, the big fat groomer communist bullet train scam in his state.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Good, good friend from Chicago area sent that. They're trying to whip up the Blackhawk corridor bullet train to finally realize the dream of being able to take a train from Chicago to, I think, Dubuque.
Joe Getty
Okay, there you go.
Jack Armstrong
But a warning to Illinois. You can. You can dream that beautiful dream, but you're going to get a train after $70 billion in 25 years that'll get you from Freeport to Lena. Look that up on a map. What a joke. Although people don't vote for these. You know what I was gonna say, People don't vote for these things on the merits. The unions and the goons who own Chicago politics will vote for it because they can spread out billions of dollars to their cronies. But the state of Cal uniform Cal Unicornia actually duped its citizens into voting for a $9 billion bond for the bullet train many, many years ago. And now conservative estimates say it's going to cost 120 billion. And it's going to be 200. If it ever runs, and it won't, it would cost at least $200 billion.
Joe Getty
Some of my great childhood memories are in Dubuque, Iowa. But we got there by car, not by bullet train.
Jack Armstrong
I'm looking at the BAM right now. There seem to be ample highways and many cars to drive them, but they're not environmentally responsible like a bullet train that'll take a million years and a trillion dollars to build is.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Release Date: February 5, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Platform: iHeartPodcasts
The episode opens with Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delving into the latest advancements in artificial intelligence, specifically focusing on OpenAI's newly unveiled tool, Deep Research. This tool boasts the capability to scan the internet and compile comprehensive reports for various research needs.
Joe Getty expresses a mix of intrigue and concern, stating, "How much energy it's going to take and how much GPU power it's going to be necessary to do the things the technology will exist, but it's hard to imagine that we're going to have the energy to pull off this major world transformation" (00:33).
The hosts critically examine the economic viability of AI advancements. Joe Getty remarks, "There's just no way to make it profitable yet to where anybody would actually want to do it. You could do it, but you just couldn't make money on it" (00:33). He further underscores skepticism about whether tech giants like Google or Microsoft can capitalize effectively on AI developments, sparking a debate about Google's potential dominance in the AI race.
Drawing from Lex Friedman's extensive discussions with AI experts, Joe Getty highlights the current limitations of AI in handling everyday tasks. He shares a personal anecdote where a voice-activated search led to a humorous misinterpretation: "I just googled when is the Oscar voting? Or I voice texted to Google, when is the Oscar voting? And it said, when is the Oscar Boating" (02:30). This example underscores the gap between AI capabilities and genuine human-like understanding.
Jack Armstrong adds, "And you made the point earlier...you don't have to be very smart to figure out. I probably said voting" (02:30), emphasizing the current inefficacies in AI communication and functionality.
The conversation pivots to the practical challenges of automating mundane tasks like laundry and trip booking. Joe Getty argues, "There's just so many decisions...I can't imagine that AI is going to get there" (08:43). Jack Armstrong counters by noting the overstatement of AI's immediate potential, saying, "Armstrong and Getty On Demand...smash the follow button" (34:56), blending humor with critique.
Transitioning from technology, the hosts engage in a robust discussion about RFK Jr., portraying him as a contentious figure whose inflammatory statements may be more about garnering attention than substantive policy-making. Jack Armstrong outlines RFK Jr.'s positions, including claims like "America's meat producers are greater threats to the US and democracy than Osama bin Laden" (14:02) and "He has refused to take side as sides on 911 conspiracy theories, but called the NRA a terrorist organization" (15:57).
Joe Getty adds context, noting Trump's tactical decision to limit RFK Jr.'s influence: "Trump for instance, specifically said I'm gonna let him go nuts on the food, but I'm keeping him away from energy" (15:57). This maneuver is portrayed as a way to appease a segment of Trump's coalition without fully endorsing RFK Jr.'s more extreme viewpoints.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Donald Trump's controversial declarations regarding Gaza and Iran. The hosts play clips of Trump advocating for the U.S. to take control of Gaza, transforming it into a "beautiful area" with high-quality housing and eliminating ongoing conflicts.
Donald Trump asserts, "As far as Gaza is concerned, we'll do what is necessary" (17:31), signaling a drastic shift in U.S. foreign policy. Joe Getty analyzes the feasibility and implications, questioning the practicality of relocating millions and the regional pushback from neighboring countries like Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon.
The discussion further explores Trump's ambiguous stance on Iran. He oscillates between aggressive rhetoric, such as "We will wipe Iran off the map if they assassinate me" (24:17), and conciliatory statements advocating for a verified nuclear peace agreement. This contradiction leaves listeners pondering the true intentions behind Trump's statements.
Jack Armstrong reflects on the complexities, stating, "It's revolutionary talk. This is insane talk to like, you know, 85% of people who look at Israel's relationship with the Palestinian people" (20:00). The hosts debate the potential outcomes and the realistic prospects of such sweeping policy changes.
Shifting focus, Armstrong and Getty critique high-profile infrastructure projects, particularly bullet trains in California and Illinois. Jack Armstrong lambasts the mismanagement and exorbitant costs, highlighting California's bullet train project spiraling from a $9 billion bond to an estimated $200 billion (33:00).
He humorously compares it to other failed projects: "The bullet train from L. A To San Francisco is now kind of a regular speed train from the outskirts of Merced to suburban Bakersfield" (33:00). Joe Getty echoes the frustration, commenting on the impracticality and long timelines required to realize such ventures.
The hosts express skepticism about future projects, referencing Illinois's ambitious plans to connect Chicago to Dubuque via the Blackhawk Corridor. They predict, "You're going to get a train after $70 billion in 25 years that'll get you from Freeport to Lena" (33:32), showcasing their disdain for what they perceive as governmental misallocation of funds.
Interspersed with intense discussions are moments of humor and casual banter. The hosts joke about the logistics of AI-generated propaganda and Donald Trump's attendance at the Super Bowl, blending current events with playful commentary.
Jack Armstrong quips, "We do not have time would fit over her leg. I think probably both of them. We need to get to this instead" (31:09), showcasing the show's signature wit.
In concluding segments, the hosts encourage listeners to subscribe and stay tuned for more content, maintaining an engaging and interactive rapport.
In "That Ring Would Fit Around Her Leg," Armstrong & Getty navigate a spectrum of pressing topics, blending technological critique, political analysis, and infrastructural skepticism. The hosts provide listeners with a thoughtful yet entertaining exploration of AI's potential and pitfalls, the complexities of current U.S. foreign policy, and the challenges of large-scale infrastructure projects. Their candid discussions, peppered with humor and incisive commentary, offer a comprehensive overview of the episode's key themes.
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