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And now here's Armstrong and G.
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So
Jack Armstrong
there is no,
Joe Getty
what would be the right word information about what's actually happening with the peace talks as we tried to war end the war with Iran. Nobody knows exactly what's happening.
Jack Armstrong
There are many words being hurled about. But yeah, where we're paying attention to them. Geneva. Beautiful Geneva, Switzerland.
Joe Getty
And Geneva, Switzerland's kind of where everybody goes to be peaceful and neutral. Yes, peaceful and neutral and drink really
Jack Armstrong
good wine looking at the beautiful scenery
Joe Getty
from what I understand, can you be peaceful and neutral with members of the Mullah theocracy of Iran or can they
Jack Armstrong
willing to slaughter a billion people to impose Islam worldwide? Seamless stretch.
Joe Getty
Anyway, what happened over the weekend? Here's Tree Angst of Fox letting us
News Reporter
know President Trump telling Fox News that the US May take over the strait in the future if they have to and collect tolls. The president described this as the United States being the guardian angel of the Strait of Hormuz and the Middle East. And the president said ultimately that would involve the US taking 20% of the oil that passes through the strait. Remember, this comes in reaction to the Iranians saying they will close the Strait of Hormuz in response to Israeli strikes against Hezbollah in Lebanon. President Trump tells Fox News he spoke with Iranian officials overnight and said you close it and you won't have a country. He went on to tell these officials, you won't even make it back to your effing country.
Jack Armstrong
So wow, where do we start? The whole the US Is now the world's robber baron and will patrol. We'll confiscate 20% of everything that comes down the pike. Are you kidding?
Joe Getty
So Iran very trumpesque announced the strait is closed several times over the weekend, but didn't do anything to actually close it. And the ships seemed to be moving the same way they were before.
Jack Armstrong
Cautiously.
Joe Getty
Iran announced it was closed, but they didn't do anything. They just shot their mouths off. And so that's kind of a Trumpy move there. And then Trump's reaction to it is, oh, yeah, we'll close it. We'll charge a toll and take 20% of the oil, which he clearly makes up off the top of his head.
Karen Kilgariff
Just.
Jack Armstrong
Just off the top of his head.
Joe Getty
And then, of course, threatening to kill the negotiators before they could make it
Jack Armstrong
back to their country is controversial.
Joe Getty
That's an interesting negotiating tactic. And it didn't even get that much news coverage. That's where we are in the modern world. That would have been a stop the presses, the only story maybe on the planet 20 years ago, if any president of any party had said that.
Jack Armstrong
All right, here's your question. Don't have to spend a lot of time on this. Does Trump have a strategy of constantly saying stuff that's crap that doesn't come true because it confuses people and keeps them off the, you know, off balance, blah, blah, blah? Or is he just completely undisciplined?
Joe Getty
Well, that both Steve Bannon thing was flood the zone with S. So people just are all confused and then you do what you want.
Jack Armstrong
Maybe.
Joe Getty
I, I don't know. I don't know. It seems to be a personality that he's got. Threatening to kill the negotiators before they, before they could even get back home is a heck of a thing. Again, that would be a bit of
Jack Armstrong
a stumbling block for most negotiations.
Joe Getty
Although if you're dealing with somebody who says stuff like that all the time and doesn't follow through on it, it's a different thing. You have to, you have to admit, you gotta, you gotta couch it in its context. If somebody who doesn't say stuff like that said that to you, Right. You think, holy crap. But if somebody who says stuff all
Jack Armstrong
the time would hold a meeting, right? Yeah. You've known them for years.
Joe Getty
They're constantly saying stuff like that. They never do it. You think, okay, there's. There's being Jim again, right?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
So you have to put it in the context, don't you? And I, and I would imagine that the Iranians do.
Jack Armstrong
No, you won't.
Joe Getty
You're not going to close the straight. That would require bombing and military action, and you're not going to do that. You've shown you're not going to do that right? Here's a little more from treyancst.
News Reporter
Over the weekend, possession said this about Iranian enrichment of uranium. The president also reacting to that. Take a listen.
Iranian Official (voice clip)
We will not give up our right to enrichment and they too will be forced to accept it. You all know what the so called President of the United States was saying. He had made a complete 100 degree turn. He was saying that Iran must surrender unconditionally. Iran has no right to do this. It has no right to do that.
News Reporter
President Trump during our call responded directly to those comments by Iranian President Massoud Possesskian. President Trump told Fox News he better watch his mouth. He better shape up or we'll take over the rest of the country.
Joe Getty
So you got the president of Iran saying you're so called president. What, what the hell is that? I mean we, we have a president, we have an election.
Jack Armstrong
It's maybe it's an election desire.
Joe Getty
And then Trump saying oh yeah, we'll
Jack Armstrong
take over your whole country.
Joe Getty
Both of them blustering in ways that so how could you possibly think the negotiations are going well when the presidents of the two countries are saying these sorts of things?
Jack Armstrong
If there were not people dying, this would all be hilarious. Iran has stepped up its executions, hangings of all sorts of people. It accuses of all sorts of crap. They hold quick kangaroo trials and then hang a 26 year old publicly young businessman who they accused of being a spy for Israel who's completely befuddled by the charges just to instill terror in the population and let them know you will not dissent, you will not speak against the government. If it were not for that reality, this would all be hilarious.
Joe Getty
So Lindsey Graham was on one of the talk shows yesterday, I believe it was Face the Nation and he said something I thought was really, really interesting that may have actually changed my mind on a couple of things. But play clip 56 for me there.
Lindsey Graham
Michael, what happens next? I spent four and a half hours with President Trump Friday. Here's what I think will happen next. If this deal fails, President Trump is going to take the Strait of Hormuz over by force. The United States will control the Strait of Hormuz. We'll charge a fee for all those who go through to pay for the operation. And we're going to expand the Abraham Accords in calendar year 2026. We're going to get Saudi Arabia joined the Abraham Accords and which is the biggest change in 5,000 years in the Mid East. And if Iran contest control of the Strait of Hormuz by the United States will obliterate them.
Joe Getty
And if my aunt had two testicles, she would be my uncle.
Jack Armstrong
Wait a moment. That would make her. Yeah. Although as he laid it out, that seems reasonable. The whole. Will take 20% of the oil. Okay, all right, wait a minute. That's too much. But the idea that, yes, we will take on the enormous expense of ensuring free navigation of international waters as we have since wwii, but it's gonna be crazy expensive. And so, yeah, there's gonna be a toll through the strait that is reasonable.
Joe Getty
Iran would try to shoot at boats still. So we would have to militarily make it impossible for them to do that, which seems to be a pretty big
Jack Armstrong
operation in the era of cheap and plentiful small arms and bombs and drones and stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's a tall hill to climb.
Joe Getty
I mean, the fighting part of the war would. If we are gonna take control of the straight. But the most interesting thing Lindsey Graham said yesterday, that actually may have changed my mind. So last week I was mocking the fact that J.D. vance and others were making such a big deal. Look, they're not gonna get 1 cent of American money before they make this nuclear deal. And me and lots of other people are saying, yeah, but they're gonna get $300 billion period. So who cares where it comes from? They're gonna use that to make a bomb and to make more rockets, et
Jack Armstrong
cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Joe Getty
Lindsey Graham was making the argument yesterday, this fund is coming from. This $300 billion is coming from primarily Saudi Arabia and the UAE. He said, I don't. And what's her name on Face the Nation. What's her name?
Jack Armstrong
Margaret Brennan.
Joe Getty
Margaret Brennan says, but they'll use that
Jack Armstrong
horrible woman, by the way. Horrible.
Joe Getty
They'll use that money, no matter who it comes from, for these bad things that I just mentioned. He said to me, if that's a good thing. If Saudi Arabia and the UAE are willing to invest those billions of dollars, it's because they believe that Iran has changed into a different regime. They've been award. They're not going to give $300 billion to a country that is swore the end of Sunni Shia Islam. Which one are they Sunni Islam for all these years, unless they think it's a different government now. So to me, them giving that money would be basically a guarantee that this is a different regime, which makes sense.
Jack Armstrong
Saudi Arabia, the oil revenue angle of it, though, that's going to happen immediately if the blockade is lifted and the
Joe Getty
Straits Over Saudi Arabia and Iran are sworn enemies. And if Saudi Arabia invests in Iran, that would only. You would think that would only be because they think Iran has. Because come around and become a different country. I just don't think there's any chance inside that Iran has become a different country.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, I would agree. And again, it doesn't address the oil revenue, which is the immediate revenue that takes away the pressure on Iran. There's part of me that thinks about what it's going to be like when you got to be a sports fan, but when the Mets and the jets are champions of their respective leagues. I mean, so much has got to happen to get to that and there's no sign that it's happening. I'm just, I'm practically, I'm so befuddled and, and, and underwhelmed by all of this.
Joe Getty
I'm not sure it is befuddling to me. I think what we've been talking about is going to happen. It just happens spread out over time and it's not quite as exciting as we have a deal or a racket war is. They're gonna, Iran's gonna start getting money and they're gonna drag out these talks until they get a nuclear weapon.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, yeah.
Joe Getty
And it could take many, many months, could take a year, could take whatever. But we will, for stupid reasons, play along and act like they're actually negotiating to avoid having to deal with it. Yeah, it's a, it's a horrible result.
Jack Armstrong
Or some future president is going to have to, in my opinion, unleash the big war that Trump was not willing to.
Joe Getty
Who to prevent future president is going to be. It ain't going to be J.D. vance and ain't going to be any Democrat. Who would it be?
Jack Armstrong
President Rubio? President J.T. timberlake? I don't know.
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Joe Getty
Justin Timberlake.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Or I suppose if the Democrats are nominated at a Rahma manual type, it could happen, but I don't think that's conceivably.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, there you have it.
Joe Getty
You gotta admit, the highlight of the weekend was Trump threatening to kill the negotiators in Switzerland.
Lindsey Graham
It was different.
Joe Getty
Yes, it was different. Drone strike on Geneva. Take him out.
Jack Armstrong
Hey, here's a super interesting thing and maybe we'll get to this next hour in the fascinating and award winning hour three of the Armstrong and Getty Show. The good folks at the Free Press have realized people tell pollsters what they think the pollsters want to hear to a large extent, in a way that is odd to me. But. And they've come with a new way of polling that lets people air their private thoughts and some of the results and how they differ from the polls you've heard. Really interesting. So we'll get to that. Hour three.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I love that. That's some good stuff right there.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I'm telling you. Plus, a death train is haunting South Florida. We'll tell you about the death train.
Joe Getty
When you use that voice, it sounds very scary.
Jack Armstrong
Scary voice.
Joe Getty
We got a lot of stuff on the way. I hope you can stay here.
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Hedy. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?
Karen Kilgariff
I mean, I watch the Aviator So I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know. But incredible innovator, right?
Podcast Narrator (My Favorite Murder segment)
She says. He's a, quote, very strange man, but they do get along really well.
Karen Kilgariff
Give us examples.
Podcast Narrator (My Favorite Murder segment)
I know they do get along intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius.
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reason you guys are street racing because you're 110 and he's 125? That guy, he swerved with me and he shouldn't have done that. Okay, I Am out just having a little ride in my favorite car.
Jack Armstrong
That is an 85 year old arrested for street racing in Florida. When confronted with the accusation, William Bosworth, age 85, responded, as you heard, I'm just having a little ride in my favorite car.
Joe Getty
85. What was he driving?
Jack Armstrong
I couldn't tell. It's funny, he was racing a red Corvette. Whether it was little or not, Prince, I don't know. The Corvette was doing 125 and he was doing 110. So he should get arrested for losing. But I can't tell what it looks like. Maybe a ragtop BMW or something like that. But yeah, yeah. An interaction between the deputy and elderly driver captured on body camera footage. I, I wish we had more of it. He explained that. No, that guy, he swerved at me only because I wanted to get away from him before we caused a problem. So it's doing 110mph next to the guy.
Joe Getty
My son. We saw a Corvette in the parking lot at the grocery store yesterday. My son gave me a rundown on the new iteration of Corvettes over the last couple of years. It's completely different thing than Corvettes have been. They're no longer sports cars, they're supercars. They're not trying to compete with Camaros and Mustangs. They're trying to compete with Lamborghinis and Ferraris. That's why they cost twice as much as they used to. But like the newer Corvettes go like 240 miles an hour.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, they're all good ships.
Joe Getty
They also cost like $200,000. It's just, it's a different thing now.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. The beloved American icon, the Corvette is. Yeah, it's a different market completely. Speaking of transportation and Florida, the death train, they call it the bright line. It's a really. It's a very attractive tr. It's a privately operated high speed rail system in Florida. You can buy a half bottle of Vuv clique whole for 59 if you like. The outside bathrooms are large and clean enough. That was me attempting to pronounce some French champagne. I think it's a really super chic, beautiful, fast, affordable.
Joe Getty
They probably serve the worst thing I've ever eaten that I had over the weekend, which was fancy. I'll tell you about that later. Do tell.
Jack Armstrong
But what the bright line is best known for is not that it reflects the gleam of the future, but the fact that it keeps hitting people. According to the federal railroad administration, which apparently there is one of the bright line has been involved in at least 185 fatalities since 2017.
Joe Getty
That seems like a lot.
Jack Armstrong
148 of them were not believed to be suicide, so obviously what 37 of them were. But last year, the train hit and killed 41 people, none of whom, as best as the authorities could determine, was attempting to harm themselves. By comparison, the Long Island Railroad, the busiest commuter line in the country, hit and killed six people last year. Not 41, but six. While running 947 trains a day. Bright Line was running 32.
Joe Getty
Is it the train's fault if you get run over by a train? They leave tracks. They're easy to spot.
Jack Armstrong
It's a good point. It's not like they can get you while you're walking across a baseball diamond or something like that. Yeah, exactly.
Joe Getty
The parking lot of the mall.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. The accident rate was more than double the that of the next highest. Floridians have started calling it the death train to maintain. Maintain a sense of callous humor about it. I just think it has to do with Florida and Florida, man, and that attitude. You can't tell me not to cross the tracks right? Here I'm crossing the tracks. But the train's way faster than people are used to.
Joe Getty
Oh, they think they got time to cross.
Jack Armstrong
It closes on them so fast. Kerblooie.
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Yeah, we got a lot on the way. Trust us. It's interesting. We don't have time to tell you about it.
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We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.
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Want the full story? Take a listen.
Podcast Narrator (My Favorite Murder segment)
Hetty. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?
Karen Kilgariff
I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?
Podcast Narrator (My Favorite Murder segment)
She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.
Karen Kilgariff
Give us examples.
Podcast Narrator (My Favorite Murder segment)
I know they do get along. Intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings, and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius.
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Joe Getty
Boyd in Florida, it was Father's Day yesterday. Got two great Father's Day things for you. We'll get to a little bit later. One, Richard Nixon, former president, talking about his dad.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, wow.
Joe Getty
In a highly emotional and, well, fantastic way of talking about your dad for Father's Day. And the letter that Karl Marx's father wrote to him about what a loser scumbag he was.
Jack Armstrong
And he was right.
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Yeah.
Joe Getty
Which is a good Father's Day sort of note. So all that later.
Jack Armstrong
Excellent. Hey, Michael, Give us clip 61C, would you? This is Daniel Morath, who recruited Graham Platner to run for the Senate in Maine.
Joe Getty
Part of our thesis here is that people do not want their candidates grown in vats. They want people who are real human beings and they want people who do not look and sound like the background people who've been leading this country oftentimes, Cliff, for the last century. And that was Graham.
Jack Armstrong
Every time I think I remember how terrible his voice is, I hear it again and it's worse than I'd remembered. He has the worst voice in America. That's the way he actually talks.
Joe Getty
How much of that is his bad voice and how much of it is his affectation?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, all of it's an affectation. Okay, I'm a vocal frying falsetto going into weirdly talking up talking progressive. That's the vocal pattern. Anyway, turns out he's a big deal in progressive politics.
Joe Getty
Oh, really?
Jack Armstrong
And he's really at odds with the Democratic Party as well. And I'm tempted to get into that here. Cause I want to talk about the rise of the Democratic socialists. But yeah, he's a big deal. Very controversial. And actually, one of the things he says that I agree with, weirdly, is maybe I can find that. I tell you what, let's put a pin in that. I say, using one of my least favorite expressions ever. Oh, there it is. Okay. He's a communist and an America hater and a nut, and he has the worst voice in America. But he says of the people he's trying to recruit, real people who have lived real lives are giving voters something they've been starving for. People want someone who will fight for them, not someone who's been dreaming of power since they were in middle school and lived their lives accordingly. I actually agree completely with that. The idea of a citizen legislature. He just wants communist citizen legislators. Anyway, having said that, we talked earlier about how polls of Americans perceptions of the economy and whether the system stacked against them economically and Politically, the numbers who say, yeah, it's stacked against me, I'm getting screwed, have just skyrocketed. Just like in a decade, right, Jack? It was, yeah, 10 years. I mean, astonishing numbers if you missed it. Grab the podcast Armstrong and gettyondemand and how Bernie and AOC are drawing huge crowds saying, for instance, AOC said, and I quote, our generation came of age and never saw American prosperity. I have never seen that or experienced it really in my adult life.
Joe Getty
Have you been to the airport? Have you been to a mall? Have you been to a restaurant? Have you been to a football game? A concert?
Jack Armstrong
Andy Kessler in the Journal talks about all the incredible advances in medicine that have happened in the last several years and what an incredible sign of prosperity that is and smartphones and AI and air travel and noise cancellation headphones and Uber and self driving vehicles and vacations all over the world and the rest of it. And he's like, what are you talking about? But as I said earlier, if you want change politically, you must have discontent. And if discontent doesn't exist organically, you've got to make it by either. And this is the neo Marxism I'm always talking about, convincing every minority, sexual, racial, ethnicity, language, short people, whatever, the autistic whatever, that the system as it is is oppressing you. And get all of those people together into a coalition and then you can overthrow the government and bring about your Marxist utopia. And then who is this writing? It's so good? Oh, it's the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal. It's talking about the rise of the Democratic socialists and how they are really taking over America's blue cities. And now they're trying to get into Congress and into the Senate. And their beliefs are absolutely looney tunes by mainstream American standards. But they're getting the young people. Here's. Oh, and they also go into how Mamdani had gotten support from like the left center left politicians in New York and then he turned on them immediately as they were running for election. He primaried them and brought DSA members out against them and is campaigning hard for them, trying to get them booted out. So the whole DSA versus the Democratic Party thing's pretty interesting. It's developing and I think it's getting more bitter. But here's one of the people he's endorsing for Congress. Here's. We talked about this. Darieliza Avila Chevalier, who has at least one name too many, a proud member of the dsa. Her platform is something else. Abolish ice because this agency exists to control our communities, not keep us safe. These are all quotes, direct quotes. Create a four day, 32 hour work week with no loss in pay, plus a universal basic income as well as a federal jobs guarantee, free government child care, free pre K, free college, Medicare for all including abortion, federal rent control via 5% national cap on yearly increases for existing units managed by large landlords. She believes all deportations are wrong because there's a double punishment to subject someone who's committed a crime to both the criminal system and then additionally to the immigration system. And these people are on the rise. And then you see the polls as we head to our nation's 250th birthday in which there's a giant partisan gap in, in patriotism, which I'd like to talk about more later. But it's all. It all goes back to what I was saying. These people want radical political change and to create that you've got to do what Orwell taught us not to do. Teach kids in school a perverse view of their own history and then convince them that they're part of a terrible, terrible country that needs to be changed. And the fruit of that evil labor is coming true. The DSA shouldn't get three votes yet they're getting elected. Washington D.C. is about to go democratic socialist. It's amazing
Joe Getty
when people are unhappy and we talked about the polls earlier, maybe we'll get to it later. But people of every class feel like the government is rigged against them. When that happens, you want change. And apparently, but apparently based on my life experience, when people want change, they'll vote for the other thing without. Doesn't even matter what the other thing is necessary. It's a different thing.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
So you don't look into the details, you just want something different or just
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
for father's Day, I carved out some hours to myself, which I don't get many of as a full time single parent. That's what I did for myself on Father's Day. I actually did it the day before. Went into San Francisco. I was going to eat a fancy meal in San Francisco. Sushi. I like sushi, right. So I went to a fancy sushi. I did a little research, went to a super fancy, ridiculously overpriced, hard to get a reservation sushi place in San Francisco. And I wasn't paying attention. I wish I'd have paid attention more attention. It was the. What is the word? You fancy people know this. Oh, God, my sake. Or omakase or whatever it is. It's where the chef chooses your food. You don't get to choose your own food. You don't get to look at a menu and pick what you want. It's a. The fancy guy with the Michelin star at the fancy restaurant tells you what you're gonna eat because he knows what's best.
Jack Armstrong
Fine.
Joe Getty
And it was 18 different things. So 18 tiny little things that you ate.
Lindsey Graham
Oh.
Joe Getty
And some of them, I'd say about a third of them were real good. A third of them were meh. And about a third of them are really hard to choke down. Including one that the second go around I just refused to eat because it was so disgusting. And the chefs all had very thick accents. And I cannot understand people with accents for some reason. I don't know why my brain is like that, but I just can't understand a word anybody with an accent says. So what he told me, I did not know. I took a picture of it and I could tell by the way he was telling me that this one, this one's gonna take a little. You're gonna have a little trouble eating this thing because, you know, it's not for everybody.
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Whatever.
Jack Armstrong
And how about you bring me something everybody likes?
Joe Getty
Well, this was like super expensive. This is like the special thing.
Iranian Official (voice clip)
Oh.
Joe Getty
And it ended up the couple that was sitting next to me where I was sitting because there's only like 12 people in this whole restaurant that they allow at a time. And this couple sitting next to me thought it was hilarious me trying to eat that because they said it's really an acquired taste.
Jack Armstrong
The.
Joe Getty
The one woman said, the first time I ever tried it, I spit it into a napkin. It was so disgusting. It took me years to develop a palate for it.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
And she said, we lived in Shanghai for 10 years and over time we developed. He said, he said, what is that term that people is.
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Joe Getty
You'll learn to appreciate it or something like that. I thought, I'm too old to need to learn appreciate food. There's plenty of food that I appreciate the moment I put it in my mout.
Jack Armstrong
There are things I enjoy now more than the first time I tried them. But at what point are you acquiring the ability to choke it down? So you look sophisticated, right?
Joe Getty
Because other people have told you this is a. Makes you look like a big. Anyway uni Nagiri according to Chat GPT, it's. It's the bright orange. It was kind of orange brown. It looked like if you just changed your cat's name, food, what comes out the other end of them. That's what it looked like on rice. It's exactly what it looked like. That's what the consistency was.
Jack Armstrong
Oh boy.
Joe Getty
It's kind of mushy brown orange.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. We got there ahead of you. You know, because of your Hemingway esque, like your Hemingway esque descriptive powers. Yes.
Joe Getty
The edible reproductive organ of the sea urchin. Oh, so it was the reproductive organs of a sea urchin made into like a gooey paste.
Jack Armstrong
The arguably edible sex organs.
Joe Getty
It's one of the most prized ingredients in high end Japanese sushi. At your really high end Michelin starred sushi restaurants around the world, this is like the top thing you could have. It should be rich and creamy, almost like a custard. It says here, briny with a taste of the ocean. Soft enough to melt in your mouth. Now if you remember that description I had earlier, that's. Yes. Oh my God. The flavor was just awful to me. Just awful. But so the couple next to me who are, you know, lived in Shanghai for 10 years and they're sophisticated sushi people and how you. You have to grow an appreciation for it over time and it's hard for people. He said, you need to think seawater. Think the taste of seawater the next time before you eat. I thought, why would I want a. Of Taste seawater before I taste something else to be able to choke it down so I can claim I'm a fancy person.
Jack Armstrong
As a guy who is swum in several oceans, I will tell you, when you get seawater in your mouth, everybody
Joe Getty
spits it out immediately because it's a terrible flavor.
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Joe Getty
But I do think it's what you were talking about. I think it. It's a. You figure out a way to get it down so you can be a fancy person. Maybe I'm just a rube and they actually like it, but it was the worst flavor I've ever had in my mouth. And I have add excrement in my mouth. Cow extrament. Let's make that clear.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, whatever. And cat, apparently.
Joe Getty
But at least it was very expensive. The second time around, I just. They he had it on something else and I just didn't even try because the first time I thought I was gonna chunder, I thought right there in the restaurant wearing a suit, I'm gonna vomit on the table.
Jack Armstrong
That's a bad look.
Joe Getty
Really sick to my stomach. And actually I threw up yesterday.
Jack Armstrong
One of your fellow diners.
Joe Getty
What.
Jack Armstrong
What is the deal with that?
Joe Getty
What is the deal with. The consistency was so gross. It looked so gross and the consistency was so gross. And then the flavor was disgusting. What is the point of acquiring a taste for that?
Jack Armstrong
And I'm sorry, whose genitals did we confiscate to make this delicious repast sea urchin or something? The sea urchin. Leave the. Leave the sea urchin's genitals alone. They need them. Oh, my God.
Joe Getty
Oh, that was horrible. It's just a warning for you if you ever go to a super fancy, really expensive. Wish you had your money back. Sushi place. We're going to do a tribute to Father's Day at some point. That's really, really good. We need to check in on the war in Iran. JD Vance just said something that's big if true. Among other things.
Jack Armstrong
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Tamara Judge from Two T's in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. Can we take a moment to talk about Chewy? I get everything for rugby from Chewy. His food, the treats I'm constantly reordering, the toys he destro in minutes. Even his supplements and it always shows up fast. Chewy also handles the serious stuff, prescriptions, pet insurance, telehealth, vet visits, and they're even rolling out vet clinics across the country. Their 247 customer service actually understands dog moms like me and cat moms, bird moms, reptile moms, all of us. And with Chewy's one year satisfaction guarantee, trying something new is never stressful for life. With pets, the answer is chewy. Save $20 on your first order with free shipping at chupanions.chewy.com teapot so Katie,
Joe Getty
Katie, the news lady who just had a baby and the sushi treat that I had over the weekend looked like what comes out of the south end of a brand new baby. I just put a picture of it up for everybody on the show and she said that's, that's delicious. And she grew up in the Bay Area, so maybe she acquired the taste of super fancy sushi that I have not acquired yet. But I found it gross. If you didn't hear the story, get the podcast. I told it.
Jack Armstrong
You know, I must ask again though, with your covet experience, is your taste normal now or, or what? How's that stand?
Joe Getty
Well, the people next to me said it took them 10 years to be able to choke it down. They almost fell the first time they ate it.
Jack Armstrong
Fair point.
Joe Getty
Oh, it was gross. I'm gonna have trouble eating the rest
Jack Armstrong
of my man reviewing a cinematography. But no, fair enough.
Joe Getty
I'm gonna have trouble eating the rest of my life thinking about that, the consistency.
Jack Armstrong
You need some sort of counseling.
Joe Getty
Don't make something the color of excrement and then the consistency that you would assume it would be also. That doesn't help.
Lindsey Graham
No.
Joe Getty
Anyway, complete change of topic. Thank God we have a latest on what's going on with the negotiations there in Switzerland between Iran and the United States. This is training to Fox.
News Reporter
Here's what we know and here's what we don't know. According to the mediators, Qatar and Pakistan, along with the Vice President, they've been able to create a mechanism about the Strait of Hormuz to get better understanding on what the traffic is going to look like. Also a mechanism. Mechanism to try and conflict any shooting, as the vice President described it, that could take place in the region. What we don't know is if the Iranians have agreed to the announcement by Vice President Vance. And it's a major announcement that International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors will go into Iran to survey what is left of Iran's nuclear program.
Joe Getty
So J.D. vance says the Iranians have agreed to let inspectors in, which is one of the sticking points for a lot of us who think this is a bad deal. Need anywhere, anytime inspections, which he didn't use that phrase, but he said to let the inspectors in. The Iranians have not confirmed this, though, so we don't have any idea if they've agreed to this or not, or if they're going to say later today, no, we ain't gonna do that, or even if they say yes, if they mean it or not.
Iranian Official (voice clip)
Right.
Jack Armstrong
I can't remember, is that the president or the speaker of the Parliament, one of the head guys who's running the negotiations for Iran, actually has a book about how to negotiate. It's like Negotiating the Iran Way is practically the title. And it's finally been translated into English. And he talks about, oh, yeah, yeah, you, you half agree to things, but then you go back on it, then you confuse the issue and you move the goal posts. And then after you've actually agreed to it, you just start violating it as
Joe Getty
soon as you can.
Jack Armstrong
He lays out out the playbook and it's exactly what it would appear to be. And so that's what we're dealing with here. It's, well, just crazy.
Joe Getty
And then speaking of moving the goal posts, the New York Post editorial boards continuing to blast Trump, even though they've been supportive of Trump pretty much endlessly for a decade now, says that in terms of saying, we got a good deal, we got everything we wanted, that Donald Trump, I think the quote from the New York Post editorial board was he not only moved the goalposts, he changed the sport, the venue and the rules to be able to say we got everything we wanted except for, you know, unconditional surrender and the regime change and eliminating their rockets and stopping their nuclear program and getting all the dust out. And other than that.
Jack Armstrong
Right, right. It's been a complete win. One thing that did please me is they stop is Trump at least eased up with his blame Israel all the time. Absolute stupidity, in my opinion. I don't know if Marco got to him, but he finally blasted Iran, saying they must immediately stop their highly paid proxies in Lebanon from causing trouble.
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Jack Armstrong
Sigh. Finally.
Joe Getty
Yeah, there's a lot of story to be written around this one yet.
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This episode of the Armstrong & Getty Show covers a wide range of topics with the duo's signature incisive banter, humor, and irreverence. The major theme is U.S.–Iran relations, including peace talks, military threats, oil revenues, and political posturing, with a secondary focus on cultural commentary and anecdotes—particularly Jack’s disastrous culinary adventure at an upscale sushi spot. The hosts also touch on the rise of Democratic Socialists in America, perceptions of prosperity among younger generations, issues with polling, and the infamous "death train" in Florida.
Ongoing Negotiations: There's widespread confusion and lack of reliable information on the U.S.–Iran peace talks. The talks in neutral Geneva, Switzerland, are marked more by bluster than substance.
Trump's Threats & Strategy: Trump made headlines by threatening to block the Strait of Hormuz, charge a 20% toll on oil, and even eliminate Iranian negotiators.
The "Flood the Zone" Approach: The hosts question whether Trump's constant outrageous statements are a deliberate tactic or lack of discipline.
Jack and Joe mix deadpan sarcasm, seriousness, and irreverence throughout, keeping the show lively and conversational. Their critical opinions on both parties, their disgust at bureaucratic absurdity, and their delight in the weirdness of American life, are ever-present. Jack’s sushi anecdote provides a memorable break from geopolitics, with humor and a dash of self-deprecation. The language remains informal, candid, and often biting.
Listeners are taken on a tour of major geopolitical news, American cultural trends, and the peculiarities of daily life, all through Armstrong & Getty’s skeptical, satirical lens. The episode’s signature blend of hard news, jokes, and candid sharing (especially Jack’s omakase ordeal) make it both informative and entertaining. Even without tuning in, this summary should equip new listeners with a comprehensive sense of the episode’s main news, arguments, humor, and moments worth remembering.