That Was A Euphemism For Testicles

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: That Was A Euphemism For Testicles

Release Date: March 4, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the latest developments in U.S.–Iran–Israel relations, the aftermath of major strikes on Iran, and shifting U.S. political dynamics related to foreign and domestic policy. Armstrong and Getty balance in-depth geopolitical commentary with their trademark irreverent humor, play insightful soundbites from political figures, and wrap with a satirical look at California politics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. U.S.–Iran–Israel Conflict

• Ineffectual Government Hotline
  The show opens with Armstrong and Getty mocking an automated government phone message for U.S. citizens seeking help during the Middle East crisis, highlighting the impersonal bureaucracy in life-or-death situations.

  • Quote:

    "Wow, that's the worst automated response I've ever heard for anything. And I hate them all, even when it's a minor problem." — Jack Armstrong [02:40]

• The Strategy Behind U.S. Involvement
  Discussion of Marco Rubio's remarks, arguing the U.S. acted proactively with Israel against Iran to prevent greater loss of life.

  • Quote:

    "There absolutely was an imminent threat... we went proactively in a defensive way to prevent them from inflicting higher damage." — Marco Rubio [03:55]

  Armstrong & Getty support Rubio’s logic but point out his misstep in making it sound like the U.S. was pushed by Israeli agenda.

  • Quote:

    "It did sound like Israel was wagging the dog..." — Joe Getty [04:54]

• Inside Iran’s Nuclear Negotiations
  The hosts cite Steve Witkoff (Trump's chief negotiator) and Pete Hegseth to detail how Iranian negotiators openly threatened with nuclear capability during talks.

  • Quote:

    "They sat down and said, yeah, we've got enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs. Just keep that in mind, bitches." — Joe Getty, relaying Witkoff's account [05:56]

• Historical Perspective & Predictable Outcomes
  Rubio’s 2015 warning about the Iran nuclear deal’s long-term consequences is replayed and critiqued, noting that nearly all of his predictions were borne out.

  • Quote:

    "Every word of that was true." — Joe Getty [08:46]

  Armstrong and Getty explore how Iran uses proxies—Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis—to maintain plausible deniability, suggesting this is an effective PR and defense strategy.

• Responding to Narrative of ‘Wag the Dog’
  Rubio refutes the ‘Israel wagging the U.S. dog’ claim, stating the U.S. president made an independent decision based on failed negotiations and direct threats.

  • Quote:

    "This was a question of timing ... not the question of the intent." — Marco Rubio [09:34]

2. Political Soundbites & Analysis

• John Kennedy’s "Rest in Pieces" Moment
  Highlighted as a particularly pithy Senate reaction to the death of the Ayatollah.

  • Quote:

    "He won the coin toss and he elected to receive. And boy, did he receive. May he rest in pieces." — Sen. John Kennedy [10:32]

• UK PM Keir Starmer’s Dilemma
  The hosts lampoon Prime Minister Starmer’s awkward attempts to placate the UK’s Islamic community post-strikes, questioning the future of UK-U.S.-Israel alliance credibility.

  • Quote:

    "So it was either 48 or 72 hours after your closest ally launches an attack against an enemy of the world. You go to a group and say, hey, we had nothing to do with this..." — Jack Armstrong [12:11]

3. Domestic Political Drama

• Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem Grilled
  The show shifts to the U.S. where Secretary Noem faces bipartisan fire over DHS policies, deaths of citizens, and a controversial PR campaign.

  • Sen. Thom Tillis calls out Trump’s pardoning of Jan. 6 rioters while neglecting police, and lambastes Noem for livestock-related anecdotes in her memoir.

    • Quote:

      "You decided to kill that dog because you had not invested the appropriate time and training ... It's in your book... At that same lunch hour, you killed a goat." — Sen. Thom Tillis [20:32]

  • Hosts’ Reaction:

    "Why she put it in her book I'll never understand. That was dumb." — Jack Armstrong [22:05]

4. Operation Epic Fury – Taking Down the Iranian Regime

• Massive military action compared to “Shock and Awe” in Iraq, with Iran’s hierarchy severely destabilized.

  • Quote:

    "Operation Epic Fury has delivered twice the air power of shock and awe of Iraq in 2003... seven times the intensity of Israel's previous operations..." — Pete Hegseth [25:41]

• Discussion of the assassination of Iranian figures connected to a past plot to kill Trump.

  • Quote:

    "Iran had people in New York running, you know, a mafia gang, basically ... So those people were hunted down and killed over the last several days." — Jack Armstrong [29:14]

• Low-Level Support for Iran’s Government
  Getty cites polling that, despite government rallies, fewer than 12% of Iranians support the current regime.

  • Quote:

    "Given the moment, they're kind of desperate to keep the mullahs in charge. According to the best poll they can possibly get going, fewer than 12% of Iranians support the Islamic Republic." — Joe Getty [27:48]

5. Leadership, Courage, & Testosterone: “Oranges” Metaphor

A Senator praises Trump’s political will in graphic terms; Armstrong and Getty riff on the euphemism.

• Quote:

  "He's got oranges." — Pete Hegseth [30:01]
  "Is that a euphemism for testicles?" — Jack Armstrong [30:03]
  "Thank you for drawing that clear line." — Joe Getty [30:12]

They continue, lampooning the idea that courage is scientifically correlated to testicle size.

6. Who Leads Iran Next?

• Reading from Abbas Milani (Stanford/Hoover Institution) on the uncertain path post-regime, hosts note that even experts can’t predict how Iran’s future government might take shape.

  • Quote:

    "[Milani] doesn’t even posit a guess ... he makes clear there's a huge will among the Iranian people ... but no idea how it's going to happen." — Joe Getty [34:10]

• Armstrong recalls history lessons from Iran’s revolution against the Shah and pitfalls of Western naivety.

  • Quote:

    "The shah was very repressive... That’s part of where ... the Ayatollah got his support. His people really hated living under the Shah. The ayatollah turned out to be much, much worse." — Jack Armstrong [34:19]

7. California Politics, Satire, and Newsom’s Rumored Presidential Ambitions

• Round-up of Gavin Newsom’s appearance on Jimmy Kimmel alongside a lookalike impersonator. The hosts jokingly discuss whether Newsom’s “California-ness” is a political liability.
  • Quote:

    "Doesn't that portray Gavin Newsom as the leader of a wackadoo state?" — Jack Armstrong [43:48] "I think all you would need ... is 60 seconds of footage of tent after tent ... California." — Jack Armstrong [45:59] "End with a long, close shot of human feces on the pavement. It's controversial. I know." — Joe Getty [46:26]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Attribution & Timestamps)

• "If you'd like to huddle in the fetal position, press 4. Wow, that's a rough time to be in the Middle East." — Joe Getty [02:58]
• "We have sufficient precision munitions for the task at hand, both on the offense and defense. But ... that we consider that an operational security matter." — Gen. Dan Raisin Kane [31:55]
• "It’s never been proven by science that the size of each individual testy has any correlation to your courage. Though there may be a correlation between testicle size and testosterone production. It’s an ongoing study. Peel me a big old navel orange." — Armstrong & Getty riff [30:40–30:59]
• "We think everybody thinks about the world the same way we do, that everybody loves life ... And they never stop to think about people who would gleefully, for instance, call their dad on October 7th and say, Dad, I killed Jews. Are you proud of me?" — Joe Getty [36:57]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Middle East Crisis & Automated Messages: 02:04–02:58
• Marco Rubio on Iranian Threat: 03:55–04:34
• Iran’s Nukes in Negotiations: 05:17–05:56
• Obama Iran Deal Flashback: 07:46–08:46
• John Kennedy’s ‘Rest in Pieces’ Quote: 10:32–10:57
• UK PM Starmer & Iran: 11:31–12:39
• Sec. Kristi Noem Grilling: 17:46–22:05
• Operation Epic Fury & Iran Analysis: 25:41–27:48
• Testicle (“Oranges”) Metaphor: 30:01–31:32
• Discussion: Iran’s Future Government: 32:57–36:57
• Newsom on Kimmel & CA Satire: 41:48–46:28

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains Armstrong & Getty’s classic sarcastic, wry tone—blending sharp political observations with irreverent humor and playful digressions (particularly during the “oranges” testicle metaphor).

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Conclusion

For listeners interested in U.S.–Iran policy, the shifting political landscape, and the intersection of media, bureaucracy, and politics, this episode blends headline analysis with humor and skepticism. The hosts lean on experience, historical context, and a parade of memorable soundbites to break down complex issues—making the episode accessible, engaging, and uniquely Armstrong & Getty.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's the worst automated response I've ever heard for anything. And I hate them all, even when it's a minor problem. If you're calling about the crisis in the Middle East. Press 1. You're huddled in a hotel that's being bombed. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

If you'd like to run for your life, press 3. If you'd like to huddle in the fetal position, press 4. Wow, that's a rough time to be in the Middle East. Yeah, yeah. Well, there's, we can't get you out right now, so be safe and stay in touch. So we have of bits of audio here centering around the conflict with Iran, the ongoing effort to bring down the regime. At some point, I want to get a little more specific about how Israel in particular is going after Iran's police state. I mean, the apparatus, all of it that was mowing down citizens in the street, torturing dissidents, hanging gay people, raping women. The rest of it, they're trying to dismantle it piece by piece so the people of Iran can rise up and, and it's only just begun, according to what they say. But first of all, Marco Rubio, addressing the question of Israeli and US cooperation.

[Marco Rubio]

There absolutely was an imminent threat. And the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked and we believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us. And we were not going to sit there and absorb a blow before we responded because the Department of War assessed that if we did that if we waited for them to hit us first after they were attacked and by someone else, Israel attacked them, they hit us first, and we waited for them to hit us, we would suffer more casualties and more deaths. We went proactively in a defensive way to prevent them from inflicting higher damage. Had we not done so, there would have been hearings on Capitol Hill about how we knew that this was going to happen and we didn't act preemptively to prevent more casualties and more loss of life.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's absolutely true. It had been just like after 911 when you, why didn't you act on this intelligence? Well, we get all kinds of intelligence, but it would have been, it would have been, you know, we could have had 150 guys killed. And you'd been asked, you knew this was going to happen, you knew Israel was going to attack and you did nothing. Right.

[Joe Getty]

Marco, there, though, with a rare misstep, I think, in that it did sound like Israel was wagging the dog that they decided to attack, so we had to join, blah, blah, blah. And as we discussed earlier, I don't think that's a good way to describe it, and I'm surprised he did. By way of setting that up, let's Hear Steve Witkoff, Michael, from yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

And let me say this because I forgot this small little detail.

[Joe Getty]

In that first meeting, both the Iranian

[Pete Hegseth]

negotiators said to us directly with, you

[Jack Armstrong]

know, no shame, that they controlled 460 kilograms of 60%. And they're aware that that could make 11 nuclear bombs. And that was the beginning of their negotiating stance. So that's, That's.

[Joe Getty]

They were.

[Jack Armstrong]

They were proud of it.

[Joe Getty]

They were proud that they had evaded

[Jack Armstrong]

all sorts of oversight protocols to get to a place where they could deliver 11 nuclear bombs. So why would they say or do that if that's accurate?

[Joe Getty]

I am so astounded and befuddled by their negotiating tactics during the recent talks. I don't know. But for that Steve Witkoff, Trump's number one negotiator in the region, to say, they sat down and said, well, right, they sat down and said, yeah, we've got enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs. Just keep that in mind, bitches. And Witkoff was like, what? And reported that to the president. And then when those negotiations clearly were going nowhere and Israel told the White House, hey, guys, we know precisely where the Ayatollah is, and there's a giant meeting tomorrow of all of his leadership above ground, and we can get them. We're gonna move on them. And Trump said, clearly, and Rubio and Hegseth said, do it. We're with you. Now is the time to bring down the regime. So, yes, Israel was going to strike Iran, and if we did not help them, we would have absorbed a blow before we went. So, Marco, everything he said was right, but he left out the part that we've been working with the Israelis for a very long time on what's the opportunity to bring down the regime, how are the negotiations going? What do we know about the leadership and the rest of it? So it was just two allies cooperating.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, let me just say, as a guy who reads lot of recent history, there's always so much we don't know. Always so much. There will be a Bob Woodward book in two years or earlier about how this all played out, and there'll be a lot of stuff that's completely new, moving pieces. That. That's what. That's one of the problems with these. These sorts of things is we have an open system, the people are in charge, civilian control, all these different sorts of things. But in retrospect, looking back, there's always a whole bunch of things the voters don't know about that are going on.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Getting back to that other CLIP this is today's 71. Michael this is Marco Rubio when he was a Senator back in 2015, warning what would happen with the Obama Iran nuclear deal.

[Marco Rubio]

Iran will immediately use the money that it's receiving and sanctions relief to begin to build up its conventional capabilities. They're going to build anti access capabilities, rockets capable of destroying our aircraft carriers and ships, continue to build these swift boats that are able to swarm our naval assets and they'll make it harder and harder for US troops to be in the region. They'll also work with other terrorist groups in the region to target American servicemen and women. They'll also continue to build long range missiles, missiles capable of reaching the United States. Those are not affected by this deal and they'll continue to build them as they've been doing. And then at some point in the near future, when the time is right, they will build a nuclear weapon and they will do so because at that point they will know that they have become immune, that we will no longer be able to strike their nuclear program because the price of doing so will be too high.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely. Every word of that was true. They were working as hard as they could to do all of those things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very clever. By Iran. I think you were talking about this the other day to have all these other groups with different names so that people kind of think, well there's Hezbollah and there's Hamas and the Houthis, they're all Iran.

[Armstrong and Getty (Hosts)]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Russia didn't come up with that plan, that idea or Hitler didn't. I mean you should have had, you know, all these different groups instead of just it's the Russians or the Nazis. Because it's a good way to spread out the blame in people's minds.

[Joe Getty]

Arguably maybe mercenaries, but they're controlled by Iran by the by, directed by. Here's Marco responding to the narrative that Israel wagged our dog.

[Marco Rubio]

President made a decision and the decision he made was that Iran was not going to be allowed to hide behind its ballistic missile program, that Iran was not going to be allowed to hide behind its ability to conduct these attacks. That decision had been made. The President made a decision to systematically destroy this terroristic capability that they had. And we carried that out. I was very clear in that answer. This was a question of timing, of why this had to happen as a joint operation, not the question of the intent. Once the President made a decision that negotiations were not going to work, that they were playing us on the negotiations and that this was a threat that was untenable, the decision was made to strike them that's what I said yesterday. And you guys need to play it. If you're going to play these statements, you need to play the whole statement, not clip it to reach a narrative that you want to do.

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[Jack Armstrong]

That was big talk all day long that media outlets took a portion of what Rubio said, which gave it different context.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right. How about the quiet wisdom of Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana? That's what we need right now. 73. Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't hate anyone, but I will shed no tears for the Ayatollah Committee. He won the coin toss and he elected to receive. And boy, did he receive. May he rest in pieces. He died with the.

[Pete Hegseth]

With the.

[Jack Armstrong]

With the blood of millions of people under his fingernails.

[Joe Getty]

Millions of that. And Jack, I know you wanted to squeeze this in. If we could. This is hapless, useless weasel Keir Starmer, the current Prime Minister of Britain, who would bring down the Western world if he could out of his own white guilt, begging the Muslim community for forgiveness or permission or something or other.

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Keir Starmer is desperately trying to maintain a positive relationship with the Islamic community in the uk. Just days after the joint US and

[Pete Hegseth]

Israeli attack that took out the Ayatollah

[Armstrong and Getty (Hosts)]

Khamenei, the PM hosted an iftar in Westminster hall where he pandered to the

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Islamic community, making clear that the UK

[Armstrong and Getty (Hosts)]

had no part in the strikes against Iran.

[Jack Armstrong]

But on Iran, I want to make clear the UK was not involved in

[Joe Getty]

the offensive strikes of the US and Israel. And that remains the case. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Within. So when did he do that?

[Joe Getty]

Yesterday or day before?

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, so it was either 48 or 72 hours after your closest ally launches an attack against an enemy of the world. You go to a group and say, hey, we had nothing to do with this, by the way. Nothing. We weren't involved at all. I mean, you gotta take that shot in the early hours of this. Well, screw him. He can't leave fast enough. He's bad for the world.

[Joe Getty]

He's part of a government that actively covered up a gang rape syndicate because he was afraid of angering Muslim folks or coming off as racist or bigoted or something. Covered up the repeated sexual abuse of young English girls. So, yeah, begging for forgiveness from, you know, some gathering is nothing for him. Right. On a lighter note, because it pisses me off, here's some good, good advice. Seriously now, good advice. Choose simplisafe home security. Customizable whole home security System backed by 24, seven monitoring agents who you can rely on to act even when you can't. The other guys just send you an alert, hey, there's somebody trying to smash in your window. You're on a flight, you're in a meeting, you're whatever, you're in the shower.

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[Jack Armstrong]

By the way, quickly on the whole Iran thing. So more polling is coming in and it's getting broken down. The whole there's a battle going on in the Republican world because of the Tucker Carlson crowd being so much against. This CBS poll has 85% of Republicans supporting it. That's the CBS poll In Fox it's 84. In Washington Post it's 81. In Reuters, Ipsos, it's 82. So it seems to be in the low mid-80s support among Republicans for this.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, great, great piece by Iranian. He's the director of Iranian Studies at Stanford and a fellow at the Hoover Institution on the prospects of getting rid of the regime that I found pretty compelling. In fact we could probably talk to him at some point as we are friends with the Hoover Institution. We'll get to that in a little bit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cool. Stay tuned.

[Joe Getty]

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, under political attack, grilled over her agency's aggressive deportation policies and the deaths of American citizens Alex Preddy and Renee Good. Republican Senator Thom Tillis, who has called for Noem to resign, was relentless and

[Pete Hegseth]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Pete Hegseth]

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[Joe Getty]

to solve this problem that was created by our Democratic colleagues.

[Marco Rubio]

You have no idea the mess they inherited.

[Joe Getty]

Pretty jazzy hearing John Kennedy, the aforementioned folks in Louisiana, going after Secretary Noem over the $220 million advertising campaign and. And who got money from it. And then Thom Tillis, Republican in North Carolina, who I think is retiring, he's not running for reelection. Just absolutely lighting. Lighting her up, chewing her out. I think the dynamic here is there were a handful of cabinet choices that President Trump made that the. The senators on the committees were like, you know, are you sure you want this person? Because were not impressed. And Trump insisted. They said, all right. But then, you know, when Gnome failed to impress on the job, they're like, get her out of here.

[Jack Armstrong]

She looked fantastic yesterday.

[Joe Getty]

She had her shiny, shiny lips and her shiny, shiny hair, no doubt. Yes. Looking very glam. Why don't we give you just a flavor of Thom Tillis. Which one did you just Recommend? Hanson. There's 83. Yeah. Why not?

[Pete Hegseth]

There's very few people in this, In Capitol Hill that support law enforcement more than me, including the sworn ICE officers. In fact, I've just been told, fortunately, in about a week and a half, we're going to get a plaque on the wall over the Capitol thanking the Capitol Police officers and all the agencies that responded on January 6th. All those thugs have actually been pardoned, and yet we haven't thanked the Capitol Police officers for their work here. So when I say I'm unapologetically pro law enforcement, you can count in every single sworn officer in Homeland Security.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's a Republican who called the people that were pardoned by Trump thugs.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's. That's something. He must not be. He must not be up for election anytime soon.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

As you saw a number of people yesterday who have gone anti Trump, get primaried and lose yesterday.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Thom Tillis is. As I said, he's not running for reelection. And it's a pretty clear example of the. I don't care anymore. I'm going to say what I think, whether you agree with him or not. You know What? We got two minutes. Go ahead and do 87. Michael, it's too good.

[Pete Hegseth]

I read your book last week, and honestly, some of the parts of it impressed me, but some of it distresses me. And I'll give you a good example of one that does. The passage where you talk about killing a dog that was 14 months old. I trained dogs. All right? And you are a farmer, you should know better. You should know that if you're going out to a hunting lodge and you're putting pheasants out and you're putting dogs out, you don't take a puppy out there. A 14 month old dog is basically a teenager in dog years. You decided to kill that dog because you had not invested the appropriate time and training. And then you have the audacity to go into a book and say it's a leadership lesson about tough choices. It's in your book. We could play it if we had time. At that same lunch hour. You killed a goat. And you killed the goat because you said it was behaving badly. You are a farmer. You don't castrate a goat. They behave badly. You should have probably done that before. But my point is those are bad decisions made in the heat of the moment. Not unlike what happened up in Minneapolis, I expect. We're an exceptional nation and one of the reasons we're exceptional is we expect exceptional leadership. And you've demonstrated anything but that in the time that I've seen you responding to the emergency in North Carolina and across the Southeast and acknowledging when mistakes are made and speaking too soon for the expedient of social media or whatever it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta jump in. I don't want to relitigate that, but I think he's completely wrong about the goat and the dog. I think that's justified. Why she put it in her book I'll never understand. That was dumb.

[Joe Getty]

The dog maybe. I don't remember the dog. Facts no Jack Pro dog murder Clearly.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Pete Hegseth]

Thus far Operation Epic Fury has delivered twice the air power of shock and awe of Iraq in 2003, minus Paul Bremer and the nation building, the campaign has seven times the intensity of Israel's previous operations against Iran during the 12 day war. Seven times.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would like credit for bringing back the name Paul Bremer last week as I think he is one of the real villains of planning the Iraq war that somehow got left, left off the hook. Anywho, he's probably like a, running a university somewhere and making a great salary and, and living a great life. I didn't realize that what we've done so far is already two times what shock and awe was in Iraq because

[Joe Getty]

shock and awe was something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Here's Pete Hegseth with a little more from today.

[Pete Hegseth]

Iran's senior leaders are dead. The so called governing council that might

[Jack Armstrong]

have selected a successor.

[Pete Hegseth]

Dead, missing or cowering in bunkers, too terrified to even occupy the same room. Senior generals, mid level officers, enlisted ranks, they can't talk or communicate, let alone mount a coordinated and sustained offensive.

[Joe Getty]

That's not great for morale.

[Jack Armstrong]

So is the plan to get them to surrender? Originally it was lay down your arms and we'll, and we'll, you know, let you go.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, the, the difficulty in answering that question simply is that who's they at this point? Yeah, somebody, I surrender. I'm the mayor of Tehran Heights. Who's there to surrender?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, did you see the crowd in the streets in Tehran yesterday? I think it was, it was large. They're calling it six figures of people in support of the Supreme Leader and chanting Death to America in the streets. I mean, it looked like the sort of pictures I've been seeing out Iran my whole life. So there's still a big chunk of people that feel that way or feel like they should feel that way so they don't get shot. I don't know which.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And given the moment, they're kind of desperate to keep the mullahs in charge. According to the best poll they can possibly get going, fewer than 12% of Iranians support the Islamic Republic. Status quo. Fewer than 12%. That's still, what do they have, 90 million people?

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So you know, that's nine, 10 million people.

[Jack Armstrong]

So another thing Pete Hegseth said is that we hunted down and killed the people that were behind the plot to assassinate Trump. Do you remember this? This was at the very end of the 2024 election campaign. Iran had instructed one of its agents running a New York City based criminal network. So Iran had people in New York running, you know, a mafia gang, basically. That's unbelievable. Right on Its own. But anyway, they had told that guy to stalk and assassinate Trump, and that money was not an issue. Um, an unnamed official in Iran's notorious Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps tasked this guy, Fareed Shaqeri, 51, during September to focus on surveilling and ultimately assassinating Trump. So, you know, that makes you an enemy of the United States right there. You were going to kill our president.

[Joe Getty]

As it turns out, they should have spent more money and more time on the plot because they were right that Trump was a mortal threat to them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Anyway, so those people were hunted down and killed over the last several days.

[Joe Getty]

Also, on the topic of Trump's credibility as a threat, Michael, can you do me 73B? Once again, John Kennedy always, folks, he number two.

[Jack Armstrong]

To defeat your adversaries in today's world, you have to have military power. But it takes more than military power. You have to have political will. I have watched five, six, seven presidents

[Pete Hegseth]

refused to stand up to the Ayatollah.

[Jack Armstrong]

President Trump has. He's got political will.

[Pete Hegseth]

He's got oranges.

[Jack Armstrong]

And like him or dislike him, the world is safer today because of what he has done. I was confused there. So that was a euphemism for testicles. Is that what he said?

[Joe Getty]

Thank you for drawing that clear line.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, Testes often used as a. An example of a male specifically, or also sometimes female. Their fortitude, willingness and courage.

[Joe Getty]

Precisely. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes is what they mean.

[Joe Getty]

The size of oranges would be exceptionally large.

[Jack Armstrong]

All men have testicles, but that doesn't necessarily translate to courage, fortitude, etc, and

[Joe Getty]

trans men are men.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's never been proven by science that the size of each individual testy has any correlation to your courage.

[Joe Getty]

Though there may be a correlation between testicle size and testosterone production. It's an ongoing study. Peel me a big old navel orange. That's what I say.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the idea that I don't even

[Joe Getty]

know what that means. Katie.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the idea that our current sitting president has larger than normal testicles is not proven by science. But that was not his point.

[Joe Getty]

No, indeed. He's extrapolating backwards from the fortitude shown by the President and making a uneducated guess as to the or kidometer readings. If one were to measure the President's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because that is the name of the scientific equipment that measures testicles. We learned that from the Barry Bonds trial.

[Joe Getty]

That's correct, yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie.

[Joe Getty]

No, I'm just really glad you guys

[Jack Armstrong]

are having this conversation.

[Pete Hegseth]

I'm learning a lot.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're having a boy. This is what we do.

[Joe Getty]

We clarify. Yes. No, I, I needed it.

[Marco Rubio]

Thank you.

[Joe Getty]

Of perhaps even greater note is Dan Raisin Kane. The General was talking to the assembled press yesterday about the question of do we have enough munitions to do this thing? 60.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know there have been a lot of questions about munitions. We have sufficient precision munitions for the task at hand, both on the offense and defense. But I want to tell you teammates, as a matter of practice, I don't want to be talking about quantities. And I know there's been a great debate about that and I appreciate the interest, but just know that we consider that an operational security matter.

[Joe Getty]

We need more. There's just no doubt.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's troubling.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I, I am, as I said earlier at the, the first time, thinking, how does this end? When does this end? When do we decide we're done? When? When do we decide we're done? When they have a fully functioning government, I assume. Short of that. But at what point if one person, man or woman, steps forward and says, I'm in charge now, and somebody else says, I second that, is that at that point we say, okay, our work is done.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right, because as we discussed yesterday, the top ranking official alive in Iran right now might be the assistant director of parks for some mid level city you've never heard of. We don't know. I dug into a think piece by Abbas Malani. Dr. Malani is the Director of Iranian Studies at Stanford, Fellow at the Hoover Institution. And the title of his piece was the Coming Iranian Revolution. And it's beautifully written, really informative, interesting, goes into a lot of the history of Iran and how Ayatollah Khomeini, the original the OG Mullah, how he duped both Iran and the Western world into thinking he was a moderate when indeed he'd actually written a book about this, that he wanted to rule with an iron Islamic fist. And sure enough, he, and he goes through the current situation and Khamenei, the guy who took over. But the one question that I was really hoping to get answered in this piece was, all right, with everything that's happened, what's like the steps toward the next thing, what are those gonna look like the better new Iran? And man, he doesn't even posit a guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, Trump said yesterday, you know, he's

[Joe Getty]

asking, I'm sorry, he makes clear that there's a huge will among the Iranian people for whatever is next and not freaking the mullahs, but no idea how it's going to happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Trump mentioned yesterday he was asked about, you Know what would be a bad result or worst case scenario? He said. And he said, well, if somebody took over, who's as bad or worse than the supreme Leader, I suppose that would be a bad thing. Well, that's what happened with the Shah. The shah was very repressive. I mean, they beat and tortured people and arrested them too. And there weren't a lot of rights under the shah. And so that's part of where the who ended up being the Ayatollah got his support. His people really hated living under the Shah. The ayatollah turned out to be much, much worse. But that's to Trump's point, you could replace what you got with something worse. I find that hard to believe in this case, but that is what happened with the Shah. And then I thought it was interesting on 60 Minutes the other night when they had the son of the Shaw who's angling to end up being put back in charge, at least until they can have elections, he was asked by Scott Pelly, your father arrested people and tortured them. And he kind of just dodged that question because what are you going to say? But it's true, old dad, he was,

[Joe Getty]

he was something, wasn't he, Scott? Yeah, well, yeah, it was true. I'm reminded though, God, the Western intellectuals and media, how badly they got fooled by Khomeini. He just duped them completely because he knew what they wanted to believe and he told them that. And the reason that triggered in my head was the repression from the Shah was way overboard. And I think anybody who cherishes human

[Jack Armstrong]

rights cannot justify it, especially compared to our standards.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, exactly. But I'm reminded of when the neocon, the original Wolfowicz and crew there, the Bush administration, Bush 2, convinced us that Iraq was a secular society and that Saddam was an oppressor. And as soon as he was removed, why they would embrace a Jeffersonian democracy probably within a week or two. And then the minute Saddam's out of the way, all the sectarian slaying started because these people are hardcore fundamentalist Muslims who all they care about is Shia, Sunni, what subsect they are blah, blah, blah. And while again, you can't justify what the Shah did, part of his oppression of that he's trying to rule a people that will slit each other's throats and his over, you know what the religious sect they're in the second they get a chance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Similar to Egypt when Mubarak finally went and then a Muslim Brotherhood guy tried to take over briefly before General Sisi said no you ain't. But he has to keep a, you know, a clamp down on on his people.

[Joe Getty]

Right? But Westerners were so naive in some ways. We think everybody thinks about the world the same way we do, that everybody loves life and everybody wants to be friends and do business and everybody's prime motivation is to have a good looking spouse or happy children and enough money to buy a boat and blah blah blah. And and they never stop to think about people who would gleefully, for instance, call their dad on October 7th and say, Dad, I killed Jews. I killed so many Jews. Are you proud of me?

[Jack Armstrong]

So we played the clip of Gavin Newsome on Jimmy Kimmel last night. There was more to that. They had a a fake Gavin Newsom on There is kind of a bit with Gavin Newsom and he may took some pretty harsh shots at California and Gavin on Kimmel while I guess Gavin stood there uncomfortably laughing. Oh you guys, come on now. It's like when you watch those roasts and people are just slaying them and you have to kind of either laugh, you have no choice but to pretend that's funny. Oh boy, I'm a good sport.

[Joe Getty]

I'm taking this just fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's great you laugh, I laugh anyway. We'll get to that. Among other things. Stay tuned.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So want to alert you that coming up in hour four we're going to get into this. What is, I think going to be a big lawsuit. Guy killed himself. Came under the sway of an AI chatbot, Gemini in specific, the Google one.

[Joe Getty]

It was his wife, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was his wife and he was trying to join his wife in the, in the digital, I don't know, the imaginary universe in which they could be together. AI convinced him of that. So that's why he killed himself. He was going to go blow up the airport for some reason. I mean it's a long complicated story, but his parents are suing Google.

[Joe Getty]

Just an astonishing story about AI gone wild. It's going to be next hour. If you don't get next hour, you can't hang around. You'd always grab it via podcast, Get Armstrong and Getty on Demand or subscribe to it. Follow us and it downloads automatically. And you'll get it's our four of today's show.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Gavin Newsom, governor of California, is obviously running for president. He's got a book and he's out doing a tour and talking about America. That's what every single person who's run for president has done in my lifetime. So he's on Jimmy Kimmel last night. We played you a clip earlier that was actually about the politics of the state and everything like that. But they opened with this. I didn't know Seth Meyers. I didn't know Seth Meyers had a brother, but Seth Meyers has a brother that looks a lot like him who happens to look like Gavin Newsom who does a Gavin Newsom impersonation on the Seth Meyer Show. So Seth Meyer's brother came on as Gavin Newsom to Gavin Newsom on Jimmy Kimmel last night and they did a bit where they gave the real Gavin Newsom an award. And then this is the and Gavin Newsom, by the way, standing there the entire time looking incredibly uncomfortable with some of these jokes.

[Pete Hegseth]

Gov Gav, for your tireless work in uniting the people of Cali, from the meth dealers of Riverside to the shapely Armenians of the Glendale Galleria, from chakra doulas and yoga thems to farmer's market furries and rollerbladers with gluten sensitivities, I, Governor Gavin D. Newsom, in association with the wounded Waymos project and the three remaining original members of each incubus present to you, Governor Gavin C. Newsom, with the 2026 FIFA, Sky Dance, Paramount, Netflix, Warner Bros. Big Ass Lipton Cup O piece.

[Joe Getty]

Unbelievable. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Believable.

[Joe Getty]

What is that made of?

[Jack Armstrong]

Unbelievable. So if you so is that a shot at California or Gavin Newsome or does it or in terms of running for president, is it all the same? If you say from the meth addicts of Riverside to the yoga thems,

[Joe Getty]

chakra doulas.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Doesn't that portray Gavin Newsom as the leader of a wackadoo state?

[Joe Getty]

At the very least, if you weren't listening, was it last hour we played another clip from Newsom on Kimmel in which he was saying the only reason people criticize California is they've got California derangement syndrome because they watch Fox News and they just focus on the negative and California is actually the greatest place on earth. I mean, everybody loves it all the time.

[Pete Hegseth]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

And of course, the boot licking Sycophant gutless Jimmy Kimmel just commits stacks of love and sex on Gavin Newsom.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, so it was at the end of the interview that you were just talking about that Kimmel had the Newsom impersonator come out on stage and give this award. Uh oh, I like this. It opened with, I'm so psyched to be here for the Newsome twosome. I mean, I just came from a ribbon cutting session. A shelter for non binary Chihuahuas. I don't think it helps. Cause, you know, the Republicans used to hang San Francisco around Nancy Pelosi's neck as do you want a Nancy Pelosi style America San Francisco? Well, I think that the same thing can be done with California. And Gavin Newsom and Jimmy Kimmel certainly helped that cause there. I think I read this and I'm

[Joe Getty]

sure you heard it. Mark Halpern, when he was talking to Gavi, he was quite pointed. He said, I don't think you're gonna end up running for president. Or if you do, you're gonna run briefly, then get out because there's too many people who don't like you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really? I didn't catch that part.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I was surprised how blunt it was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I know because I watched Gavin Newsom or Mark Halpern's podcast a lot. He's not big on Gavin as a likely nominee or president. He doesn't. He doesn't think Gavin's the guy.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why? I'm not exactly sure why. Just because being having California around your neck is an albatross.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, the ads. Right. Themselves. Like the. The clip we played, I think it was yesterday of the. The montage of Gavin claiming for 24 years how he's going to. To solve the homeless problem this year. I mean, it was hilarious by the end of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I. We've been saying this for years. I think all you would need. And I could do it this afternoon. I wouldn't even have to drive very far. All you need is 60 seconds of footage of tent after tent after tent after drug zombie wandering through the street. California. Don't even just put at the end. California.

[Joe Getty]

Can we sprinkle in some products locked up in all the stores and see smash windows and then. And end with a long, close shot of human feces on the pavement.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's controversial. I know.

[Joe Getty]

It's an eye grabber. He can't ignore it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. If you missed a segment, get the podcast

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