That's Freakin' Weak Tea, Man!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "That's Freakin' Weak Tea, Man!"
Air date: October 6, 2025

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Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty focuses on two big topics: the surprising international response to President Trump’s Middle East peace proposal in the wake of nearly two years of war between Israel and Hamas, and a pointed discussion on the controversy over American comedians performing at the Riyadh Comedy Festival in Saudi Arabia, calling out what the hosts see as hypocrisy. Along the way, the hosts riff on public opinion, media shifts (highlighting Barry Weiss and The Free Press’s CBS acquisition), conversational hogs at restaurants, and notable news events involving public figures.

The tone is conversational, irreverent, and at times openly critical, especially when discussing perceived inconsistencies and media narratives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Peace Proposal and Middle East Reaction

(03:37 – 13:55)

• Mainstream & International Media Coverage

  • The hosts highlight unusually positive media coverage for Trump's 20-point peace plan, with even traditionally critical outlets praising the potential breakthrough.
    • "The media coverage for mainstream media was more positive on this thing than boy, anything I've heard about a Trump idea in a very long time." (Jack Armstrong, 04:24)
  • Trump is now the most popular politician in Israel, yet also well-liked by multiple Arab leaders—an unusual diplomatic feat.
    • "Trump is the most popular politician in Israel of anybody in the world... He has all these Arab leaders who like him more than any president we've had in forever. How do you pull that trick off?" (Jack Armstrong, 06:24)

• Skepticism About the Deal’s Viability

  • Despite announcements, both Israel and Hamas have unresolved “significant points of disagreement.” The hosts are blunt, calling out political theater.
    • "In every other context in the world, that means we don't have a deal. My goodness, can we stop pretending we have a deal?" (Joe Getty, 07:14)
  • There’s a resigned consensus that, even if a deal is made, Hamas will likely violate it, triggering further Israeli military action.

• Arab Leadership & the "Risky Game of Chicken"

  • The Arab world’s support is perceived as more rhetorical than real, with Trump “calling everyone’s bluff.”
    • "Trump is steaming ahead, calling everyone's bluff by accepting their statements of support without acknowledging their reservations." (Joe Getty, 08:59)

• Public Opinion in Gaza

  • Despite dangers in speaking out, Gazan voices reportedly support the ceasefire out of desperation.
    • "We’ve had enough of Hamas. Please end the fighting. For me, anything that ends the war is good." (Gazan mother, as quoted by Joe Getty, 10:23)

• Disconnect Between Protesters and Peace News

  • The hosts mock protesters purportedly for Palestine who are unaware of Trump’s peace proposal.
    • "So you're queers for Hamas protesters... not paying any attention to the biggest peace effort in the Middle East in 50 years." (Jack Armstrong, 11:47)

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2. Riyadh Comedy Festival Controversy – Hypocrisy in Stand-Up

(18:53 – 24:54)

• Comedians Accepting Saudi Money

  • Jack Armstrong shares comedian David Cross’s criticism of American comedians (Dave Chappelle, Louis CK, Bill Burr) for performing in Saudi Arabia despite their political grandstanding in the U.S.
    • "A lot of these comedians, half their act is lecturing everybody about how awful the country is... and then you go over to a country where they have freaking slaves and they stone women to death because they got raped." (Jack Armstrong, 19:44)
  • The contracts explicitly prohibit jokes about religion or government—yet the comedians, known for boundary-pushing, accept these rules for high pay.
    • "So you're gonna strut around the stage as the big tough guy... and then you'll go to Saudi Arabia and sign a piece of paper where they tell you all these things are off limits, and you say, sure, for enough money. That is freaking weak, man." (Jack Armstrong, 22:03)

• Liberalization vs. Pandering

  • Louis CK’s own words, played on-air, try to position the festival as a budding opportunity for cross-cultural comedy, but the Armstrong & Getty team are unimpressed.
    • "Yeah, you like being controversial and getting to say whatever you want. You just said 'no religion, no government.' That's the whole country." (Jack Armstrong, 24:19)
  • Chappelle’s assertion that there’s “more freedom of speech here than in America” is called not just false but “horrifying.”
    • "He is dead to me. Now, it's a country where... [a] blogger received a thousand lashes... Chappelle's over there saying you got more freedom of speech here than in America. F you." (Joe Getty, 22:48)

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3. Modern Media: The Barry Weiss / Free Press Story

(29:42 – 39:53)

• Independent Journalism Breakthrough

  • The hosts discuss former New York Times journalist Barry Weiss growing her “Free Press” outlet from 3 staffers to a $150 million acquisition deal with CBS—citing her commitment to non-partisan, old-school reporting.
    • "This makes the Free Press one of the most amazing, entirely organic successes in media history." (Jack Armstrong, 30:34)
    • "That's absolutely amazing... One of the biggest media success stories ever, certainly in this era." (Jack Armstrong, 32:09)

• Audience Support & Editorial Independence

  • The Free Press now has 1.5 million subscribers. The hosts compare Weiss’s philosophy to their own: treat the audience like adults capable of weighing competing ideas.
    • "We would seek the truth and tell it plainly. And we would treat readers like adults capable of making their own choices." (Reading from Barry Weiss, 36:46)
  • Skepticism about “selling out” is addressed by both Weiss and the hosts, who anticipate she’ll remain committed to her principles even within corporate media.

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4. Table Talk: Social Annoyances & Parenting

(33:11 – 35:54)

• Joe describes, with exasperated humor, being twice seated next to a table-dominating woman at different restaurants.
• The co-hosts reflect on noticing — and trying to teach their kids not to become — conversational monopolizers.
  • "I say, now, now, I just want you to realize that we all been sitting here and you've done like 90% of the talking since we sat down. So how about you let other people talk a little bit because you don't want to be that person." (Jack Armstrong, 35:12)

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5. News Clips & Rapid Fire Topics

(43:59 – 49:32)

• Washington Post Admits Obamacare is Not Affordable
  • Noted in passing as a surprising moment of candor in mainstream media (44:16).
• Mark Sanchez Stabbing Incident
  • The discussion of former NFL quarterback Mark Sanchez, now a Fox analyst, involved in an altercation leading to his being stabbed (45:30).
  • The hosts reflect on athlete violence, public intoxication, and the sometimes-unfair rush to judgment.
    • "If you've ever been around an NFL football player, but they are giant freaking human beings... if one of them was angry at you and physically coming after you, you would be scared for your life." (Jack Armstrong, 46:38)
• P. Diddy’s Legal Outcome
  • Quick commentary on P. Diddy's perceived lenient sentencing after severe accusations (47:18).
• Attempted Attack on Justice Kavanaugh
  • Shock at judicial leniency toward an attacker, with the judge focusing on the perpetrator's gender identity journey rather than the severity of the crime (49:09).
    • "I am heartened that this terrible infraction has helped the Rosky family accept their daughter for who she is." (Judge Boardman, paraphrased by Joe Getty, 50:22)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "Congratulations, that's difficult to achieve, being perfectly wrong." (Joe Getty, 05:18)
• "Stop hitting snooze on new tech." (Regular humorous riff during sponsor ad breaks)
• "I don't care if you're wrong, if I believe that you're at least trying to get the story out correctly. That's your goal, right?" (Jack Armstrong on journalism, 39:30)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:37 – Middle East Peace Deal Media Coverage
• 04:34 – Media’s Unlikely Positivity Toward Trump’s Plan
• 05:27 – Andrea Mitchell’s “perfectly wrong” analysis, host critique
• 07:14 – Breakdown of "no deal" despite announcements
• 08:59 – Trump “calls everyone’s bluff” in the region
• 10:23 – Voices from Gaza, real public opinion noted
• 11:47 – "Queers for Palestine" protesters lampooned
• 18:53 – Riyadh Comedy Festival, comedians’ hypocrisy, David Cross’s critique
• 22:03 – “Signing away free speech for money” riff
• 22:48 – Anger at Chappelle’s “more freedom of speech in Saudi Arabia” claim
• 29:42 – Barry Weiss and the Free Press, CBS $150M deal
• 33:11 – Conversation hog at a restaurant, social gripes
• 39:30 – On accuracy, honesty, and mature media audiences
• 43:59 – Washington Post’s admission on ACA affordability
• 45:30 – Mark Sanchez stabbing incident explained
• 47:18 – P. Diddy sentencing comments
• 49:09 – Attempted attack on Justice Kavanaugh, judge’s gender identity remarks

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Summary

This episode covers:

• The unexpected coalition and skepticism surrounding Trump’s new Middle East peace proposal, with deep dives on media, political, and public reactions from all sides.
• A fiery critique of American comedians—especially those outspoken on progressive issues—accepting censorship and big money to perform in Saudi Arabia.
• The rise of independent journalism in the hands of Barry Weiss and what her CBS deal could mean for honest reporting.
• Anecdotes about social etiquette (table talkers), major headlines involving public figures, and a few moments of lighthearted, personal banter.

For anyone wanting a fast, colorful, and direct run-through of current events—with equal parts serious breakdown and off-the-cuff commentary—this episode distills the news with Armstrong & Getty’s signature wit and bite.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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Just days before the two year anniversary of the October 7th attacks, a potential breakthrough on President Trump's 20 point peace proposal. Hamas agreeing to release all of the hostages and Israel vowing to halt bombing in Gaza. But with key details still lingering, can the nearly two year war come to an end?

[Jack Armstrong]

So that was Meet the Press yesterday in which Andrea Mitchell, Trump hating Andrea Mitchell, went on to say this.

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For the first time, we're seeing President Trump really putting pressure on Netanyahu to.

[Joe Getty]

Stop the bombing when he said that it was very significant. So this could be transformational.

[Co-host/Sidekick]

And, you know, if this were to.

[Joe Getty]

Work out and you know, it would be the Abraham Accords, it would be.

[Co-host/Sidekick]

Recognition of Israel, transform the whole region.

[Joe Getty]

And President Trump would deserve that Nobel Prize.

[Jack Armstrong]

The media coverage for mainstream media was more positive on this thing than boy, anything I've heard about a Trump idea in a very long time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I would agree. I would agree. The other interesting, you know, aspect of the media coverage, I think is that more people are embracing the idea that nothing was happening diplomatically. It was all fake until the missiles landed in Qatar. Then all of a sudden the Arab world was like, yeah, maybe we could.

[Jack Armstrong]

Actually do something about.

[Joe Getty]

In fact, we probably should.

[Jack Armstrong]

One really stupid thing Andrea Mitchell said. She said, Bibi met Netanyahu. The big mistake he made an unforced error of huge proportions was that strike in Qatar, which united all the Arab countries. And I thought, yeah, united all the Arab countries around what Israel wants to do. What are you freaking talking about, old lady?

[Joe Getty]

Andrea, you are 180 degrees off of the truth. Congratulations, that's difficult to achieve, being perfectly wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Completely wrong. Yes, that is clearly the best thing he did in terms of galvanizing the Arab countries, like we said last week, into thinking, okay, we can't have this happening, so let's get on board with putting an end to this thing. Somehow they point out that Cutter was.

[Joe Getty]

Furious and demanded Israel set things right, blah, blah, blah. But then a cabal of reporters in the Wall Street Journal points out. And Trump just decided to try to turn the crisis to his advantage. The attack was a sobering reminder to Arab countries of the risk of regional ESC focusing their minds on peace.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

That's a fancy way to put it.

[Jack Armstrong]

As always with anything in the Middle East. I mean, if you're old, you've heard this sort of thing many, many, many, many times. These things rarely work out. But this has got more support from more different political quarters than anything I can remember. Again, when NPR and Fox both think it's a good idea. That's.

[Joe Getty]

That's wild.

[Jack Armstrong]

And what pundit was I talking about? Trump is the most popular politician in Israel of anybody in the world. Nobody pulls higher than Donald Trump in Israel. And he has all these Arab leaders who like him more than any president we've had in forever. How do you pull that trick off?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Where the Arab leaders like you and you're the most popular person in Israel. But anyway, this is what Mark Halpern wrote today. This is how it's how to look at the next week. A deal which will lead to implement implementation challenges. Then it's going to be how Bibi reacts after Hamas breaks the deal, then how Trump reacts when Bibi reacts after Hamas breaks the deal, then how Bibi reacts to Trump's reaction when Bibi reacts after Hamas breaks the deal. That's probably quite accurate about how it's going to play out.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Which is kind of what I was driving at last week. Even if they arrive at a deal. Oh, and now's an apropos time to point out, I tweeted this. It's a quote from. I think it was in the New York Times Journal. Doesn't matter. The quote was, while Israel and Hamas have each said they accept the hostage release deal, both hinted at significant points of disagreement. And as I said in every other context in the world, that means we don't have a deal. My goodness, can we stop pretending we have a deal?

[Jack Armstrong]

We just have significant points of disagreement.

[Joe Getty]

On key aspects of the deal. But, yes, we have a deal. Right. And then if the deal ever does happen, to get back to the original thread, yeah, Hamas is going to start violating it the moment they can, so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's. That comes with the territory, though, that one as much. Yeah, of course, the. They're, they're, they're. Whatever they are. But if this deal gets put in place, they're going to be in a really rough position to try to really get their thing going again.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Yeah, I like this couple of sentences.

[Jack Armstrong]

If the deal doesn't happen and it falls apart, Israel is going to, with Trump's backing, absolutely lay waste to Gaza.

[Joe Getty]

Correct? Yeah. Yeah. They mentioned that Hamas bristles at fully disarming, wants better guarantees, Israel will withdraw. Arab governments are concerned that the deal is so tough on Hamas and so weak on a path to a Palestinian state, there's not going to be one that they can't sell it to their citizens. The result is a risky game of chicken where no one wants to publicly shoot down a plan that privately many don't think they accept in full. Trump is steaming ahead, calling everyone's bluff by accepting their statements of support without acknowledging their reservations.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's an interesting way to go about it.

[Joe Getty]

You got old Jared Kushner heading to Egypt, though. In fact, he's probably there already with Witkoff showing real seriousness.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, this is gonna be something to watch.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Marco Rubio was on all the shows yesterday, being pressed very hard, and he kept bringing it back to, well, look, it's Hamas. If they don't, you know, if they're not trustworthy. We know what Hamas is. What are we supposed to do? You're dealing with a viper.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. I would agree. Oh, and a final note from me, anyway, the. Speaking of the journal, they had a really interesting piece where they were trying to figure out what public sentiment was in Gaza, and there are no, like, reliable public opinion surveys in Gaza and people are afraid of Hamas, but they were able to reach out to, I think it was half a dozen different people. And the interesting part was they were absolutely unanimous. Hamas should accept the US Broker deal, despite what they see as the shortcomings. Different people with different life circumstances and, you know, different places in society. But they all said, stop the killing. And I don't think Hamas cares about our suffering. I'm very upset by their statements. We've had enough of Hamas. Please end the fighting. For me, anything that ends the war is good. Said a mother of a days old premature baby. I don't care about Hamas's weapons, its leaders, their fader, their prisoners, my husband, my son and I, we are the ones paying the price. Stop it. The people with guns win.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did you want to get that one other clip on before we move on to something else?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we certainly can. This is. What did I say? What? Yeah, no, it's. It's a fellow by the name of Nate Friedman. He's at. And speaking of things, I tweeted there was a big demonstration. I can't remember what city it was but it was one of those queers for Palestine with a bunch of like transgender and flaming gay people wearing rainbow clothes, jumping up and down and chanting in favor of Hamas and Palestine. And the caption was, how insane are these effing people? They would be executed the minute they hit the ground.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that is weird.

[Joe Getty]

And then you had this reporter going in to a demonstration in favor of the permanent Omni cause, and he asked.

[Jack Armstrong]

This question, what did you think of the Trump peace plan that was submitted. What did you think of it? Honestly, I haven't been paying much attention to it. But do you think that they should take the deal? I don't know. I think they should. I don't know. So they're not paying any attention?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you're, you're. You're queers for Hamas protesters.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not paying any attention to the biggest peace effort in the Middle east in 50 years.

[Joe Getty]

Right. That everybody on the planet is talking about. They have no idea it even exists. Well, that's. That, you know, kind of covers that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

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[Jack Armstrong]

We will move on to from this for now, unless there's some breaking news on it, which could happen because they're meeting for the peace talks right now. But what do do you think? You think that it's going to at least be attempted to be implemented or do you think it falls apart and there's. It never even gets a chance.

[Joe Getty]

If I'm a leader of Hamas. I've got to at least make a show of agreeing to the deal and complying with it to try to get world opinion on my side.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it's your only hope.

[Joe Getty]

If they openly defy Trump, they will get obliterated by the full weight of the Israeli military effort. And I don't believe for a minute that they're going to fully accept it and live up to it. So, yeah, I really think, you know, outcome number one that we mentioned is what's gonna happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

It is about when the moon is like full and giant, it. What it does to our animal brains or something like that. At least for me.

[Joe Getty]

It just, oh, it's. Yeah, it's amazing to gaze on another, you know, not planetary exactly, but, you know, another massive thing in space that's right there. You can just look at it.

[Jack Armstrong]

What is it about celestial orbs that put your life in perspective? I don't know. We'll delve deep into that. Or not. The whole National Guard going into cities across America and then the courts saying no and all that. We got to get to that at some point. Hope you can stick around.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

How you holding up with the shutdown and everything? You doing okay? I hope so. Supreme Court Is that sarcasm? The is.

[Joe Getty]

I've been siphoning car gas out of my neighbor's cars. Just, you know, extreme times, extreme measures etc. Just crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Supreme Court is back in session. We'll take a Look at the what that's on their docket for this year at some point.

[Joe Getty]

What do you think of the whole Riyadh Comedy Festival controversy, Jack? I said earlier, I don't have a strong opinion on it. The more I think about it, the more I think I do.

[Jack Armstrong]

I definitely have a strong opinion on it. I read the piece last week, whenever Friday, from comedian David Cross, really blasting a lot of his friends, which was interesting. He can't believe that they're going over there. Apparently the contracts are out on the Internet. Somebody leaked them. They're getting crazy money. We're talking big comedians. Dave Chappelle, Louis CK among others. But David Cross, Bill Burr. But David Cross's blast was, you guys, you know, are politics lecturing the country all the time, usually on the side of, you know, how awful America is on. On these issues or. Or whatever. And then you go over to a country where they have freaking slaves and they stone women to death because they got raped.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And he.

[Jack Armstrong]

He said the comedians that. That don't do politics, you know, whatever. You don't have any. The different deal. But. And that. That's what bothers me. A lot of these comedians, half their act is lecturing everybody about how awful the country is.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Saudi Arabia is a thousand times, a million times worse than we are on all these issues. And you're gonna go take a giant check from these people, and you're already wealthy. That was David Cross's argument. Dave Chappelle, Louis CK what do you need, another boat? So you're willing to throw away all your credibility for more money, which you don't need? I think it's incredibly weak.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And, you know, I don't care about the live golf tour, for instance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, that's different.

[Joe Getty]

To me, Saudis are behind that because, you know, people gripe about that as they do trillions of dollars of business with China.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

No truly loathsome regime. But the nature of comedy is, you know, we call it speaking truth to power. Or the whole point of comedy is it gets at truth, often uncomfortable truth. But you can get away with it because it's comedy. That's why every dictator in the world, they can often, they can take being criticized to a certain point, at a certain point, they can take being opposed. The one thing they can't take is being mocked, being laughed at.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, how about if your comedy act is specifically taking on the idiots in this country who don't believe in transgenderism or climate change or whatever the heck the issue is.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

And you're Going over to Saudi Arabia to take money.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's weird. Byrd, they mentioned in this one piece just murdered Joe Rogan for his distrust of Max masks and vaccines during the COVID pandemic. He's derided America's epidemic. Billionaires gleefully ridiculed the insurance industry's terrified reaction to Luigi Mangione's assassination of a young father who happened to be a healthcare CEO. He's had some real fun with that. But he towed the line, and he got on his leash when it came to the Saudis, telling him, you can't mention. You can't make fun of our regime or religion in any way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right, that. I don't know if that's, like, written or spoken or you just know that, but.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it's part of the contract.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, okay. Well, then forget it. I have no respect for you, so whatsoever. So you're gonna strut around the stage as the big tough guy. I'll say whatever I want. Nobody can stop me. And then you'll go to Saudi Arabia and sign a piece of paper where they tell you all of these things are off limits, and you say, sure, for enough money. That is freaking weak, man. I've lost all respect. I'm like David Cross. I've lost all respect for Chappelle and Burr and Louis CK And I love those people, but that is. That is just unbelievable.

[Joe Getty]

And Chappelle, my God, I'm so disappointed in him. He made the worst comment because he made some sort of crack about transgender this or that. And. And. And he says, in Saudi Arabia, this is. This is great. We got more freedom of speech here than we do in America.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are you talking about?

[Joe Getty]

Truly horrifying. He's dead to me. He is dead to me. Now, it's a country where this blogger, his name is Raif Badawi, he received a thousand lashes and 10 years in prison recently for insulting Islam, quote, unquote, and founding an online site for political debate. And Chappelle's over there saying, you got more freedom of speech here than in America. F you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry.

[Joe Getty]

You're brilliant, but F you, eh?

[Jack Armstrong]

And those comedians. I don't know about Chappelle, but I know Burr, Louis CK Regularly love to make fun of religious people in the United States. Christians. Okay, so you want to make fun of Christians? You gonna make fun of anybody in Saudi Arabia. No, you're not. That's freaking weak tea, man.

[Joe Getty]

Let's let Louis CK Speak for himself. You got that clip handy, Michael? So you're going to Saudi Arabia.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're playing this big festival over there. People have been playing Saudi Arabia for years. Comedians have been going and playing Arab countries. They said there's only two restrictions, it's.

[Joe Getty]

Their religion and their government.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't have jokes about those two things. It used to be when you got when I got offers from places like that that'd be long list and I just say no, I don't need that. But when I heard it's opening I awfully interesting. That just feels like a good opportunity. And I just think comedy is a great way to get in and start talking. And there's Saudi Arabian comedians there and I'm going to a comedy club in Saudi Arabia the first night I get there to just see what's going on. I love standup comedy and I love comedians. So the fact that that's opening up and starting to bud, I want to see it. I want to be part of it. Yeah, you like being controversial and getting to say whatever you want. You just said said no religion, no government. That's the whole country.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. They are liberalizing. And I get his point about I want to be part of that and help that bud. It's an interesting counter argument. Drop us a note. What do you think? [e-mail] is the email address mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com I'd.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like to see them do some sort of edgy joke where they take this on. Or are you going to toe the line in a way that you don't have to in the United States? Of course you have more free speech in Saudi Arabia and then bad mouth America.

[Joe Getty]

Good Lord.

[Co-host/Sidekick]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Short first down Dave Mercado off to the races 2010 touchdown. Oh, did he drop it early? Boy, that's gonna be close. Oh my goodness. Boy, he extended it with his hand a little. So that what that is from the Cardinals. He has a 70 yard touchdown run. Drops the ball right before the goal line.

[Joe Getty]

Except he was strutting in and kind of just dropped it. Dropped it. Not like intentionally.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he does the cool guy. Look at me run. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Not only that, but that would have cemented the game for the Cardinals. And. And so they coughed up the ball. The. Who are they playing? I can't even remember. But anyway, the. The other lowly team was at Tennessee. It was one of your lowly teams.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Rallied and came back in one. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Eagles and Bills lo both lost. So no one beating teams right now in the NFL. That's that on that. So we talked last week about Barry Weiss who runs Free Press.

[Joe Getty]

Got.

[Jack Armstrong]

She got offered a deal several weeks ago from CBS and everybody knew about it. Paramount. And a lot of talk in the world of media whether she would take it or not because she is a.

[Joe Getty]

Hardcore.

[Jack Armstrong]

Honest broker, tries to be an honest broker in the media. That's why she left the New York Times in the first place and she ended up taking the deal at CBS. The story is $150 million to acquire her Free Press thing, which is. Which is quite the story. And Commentary magazine writing about what an amazing media story this really is. And it is. It is. And then Joe is going to talk.

[Joe Getty]

A little bit about the.

[Jack Armstrong]

What the future might look like. But a couple of notes about Barry Weiss's announcement last week about the joining together of the Free Press and Paramount. First, this makes the Free Press one of the most amazing, entirely organic successes in media history. Barry didn't know that this was how it was going to turn out or what was going to turn out when she quit the New York Times because she felt like they were not being honest brokers when in the news that they're putting their thumb on the scale for or progressivism or liberalism or whatever. Well.

[Joe Getty]

And she believed that there was a market for being a media traditionalist, news traditionalist.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's why I'm excited about this story because that's kind of what we try to do and to know that there's enough of a market out there. She did it with three people, including her wife and her sister. And then the response to what she was doing dictate its growth. Like any great startup, it moved with the consumers who were responding to it it and made it its own market in our Announcement video. Barry says the Free Press had 1.5 million subscribers who pay $10 a month. That's $120 a year. So that's more than $150 million in revenue per year. That is quite an amazing. And that's within three years, went from three employees. And this is what we're going to try to do with journalism to that. That's absolutely amazing. And it is one of the biggest media success stories ever. Certainly in this era of can there be any. Can anybody break through?

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. So fans of the Free Press are a little concerned about, you know, sell it out, going for the corporate record deal, you know, back in the day. Rock and roll fans know what I'm talking about. But her. Her statements are terrific about it. Before we get to that, though, speaking of free speech, I got to tell you this. So. So we're getting our house remodeled in our kitchen. Hasn't existed for months. And so. And they're doing the floors and the fumes are terrible. And so we've been eaten out a lot and rented a place near our house because we just can't take the fumes. But so anyway, we go out for dinner the other night, and in the table right next to us, and it was a fairly quiet place, real near the house, two couples and one of the women talked constantly, oddly enough. And this cal. At least 60. At least 60. Loud voice. The kind of voice you can hear two tables away in a loud place. And this is a quiet restaurant. Never stopped talking, oddly enough, about college football.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, I was gonna ask. Are you the sort of person that if you can hear overhear other people, you can't not pay attention to them?

[Joe Getty]

It is very, very difficult for me to ignore it because my brain keeps engaging in what they're saying.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's interesting because some people are like that, that. Like one of my sons.

[Joe Getty]

That way.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not that way at all. Somebody can be having a conversation next to me. I just block it out completely. But I know, like my son, people.

[Joe Getty]

Are having a conversation with you because.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not interested in what you're saying. But my son and his mom, they cannot not. They can't listen to you while you're talking to them if somebody else is talking behind.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Yeah. Yeah. So I've got a bit of that, too. But so. And there's four people at this table. Seriously. This woman was responsible for 96% of the verbiage expressed. Okay. Just on and on and on. So loud. And I was doing. Doing my best to ignore it. But it's okay, you know, it's not like she was espousing, you know, Nazism or anything horrible. It just so much noise.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'd be more interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Finally, you know, they. They get done, they leave. We finish our dinner in peace, but because we have no kitchen, the next night we go out to our favorite Mexican place not far from the house, and we sit down and the waitress comes over and Judy looks to our right and says, oh, my God, no way. Yes. Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Same two couples, same woman, prattling at the top of her life.

[Joe Getty]

I know. I was like, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, it's impossible that they would.

[Joe Getty]

Go out to eat again.

[Jack Armstrong]

At a different restaurant the same night as you and the same time. I mean, well, it's not like back.

[Joe Getty]

When we had our cabin up in the mountains and there are effectively four restaurants in town. No, there are dozens of them, and they're right at the next table. And she's prattling on and on. This time, oddly enough, about pro football. Again, is extremely knowledgeable. She's talking about Kirk Cousins character and why that matters. But again, at top volume, supplying 95% of the verbiage at the table.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I don't know if other parents do this, and maybe I shouldn't be doing it myself, but because I'm so annoyed by people who dominate conversations like that. I really have been in tune with that with I Got One Kid in particular where I say, now, now, I just want you to realize that we all been sitting here and you've done like 90% of the talking since we sat down. So how about you let other people talk a little bit because you don't want to be that person?

[Joe Getty]

Right? No, I've absolutely done that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I always wonder when I meet people like that. Like, did nobody ever tell you to, like, look around? There's seven people at this table. Has anybody else said a word other than you? Do you think everybody else wants it that way? That you're the only one who talks? I mean, nobody ever said that to him their whole lives.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and one of the handful of people I love more than anything on earth had a habit of expecting your raptor attention, but was visibly uninterested the moment anyone else started talking. And we have worked on that as well. Yes, that's. No, I think that's. That's good parenting. That's good. Good mentoring. All right, so back to the Free Press. Let's see. It's rather a long email that Barry Rice Weiss wrote, if you're not familiar. It's B A R I, by the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Way, before you get into it, like I said last week, I haven't been worried about it because I think her whole shtick, I mean, she risked her ent career leaving the New York Times. She is not going to all of a sudden roll over and, and, and, and not do what she's been doing, in my opinion.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And she goes into the philosophy behind the free press. We would marry the quality of the old world to the freedom of the new. We would seek the truth and tell it plainly. And we would treat readers like adults capable of making their own choices again. The Armstrong and Yeti formula as well. At least that's what we try to do. And she gets into the fact that she was told over and over that's impossible. The only way to go is just complete flaming hundred percent partisanship. And she mentions, as of today, I am editor in chief. Oh, she says, I'll continue to lead this incredible community alongside my tireless team, remaining CEO and editor in chief. But I'll be taking on another title too. As of today, I'm editor in chief of CBS News, working with new colleagues on the programs that have impacted American culture for generations, like 60 Minutes Sunday morning, shaping how millions of Americans read, listen, watch, and more importantly, understand the news in the 21st century. And as I speculated last week, she's absolutely hardcore, remaining true to her principles. But she points out, excuse me, that this new partnership in the money involved gives the free press, which will continue to be the free press, even more resources to do big, you know, like long term reporting. You work on this for six months and bring us the big story stuff that's vanishing from today's news.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And she is going to work like crazy to turn CBS News back into a news organization and not a partisanship organization.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I don't know if you saw the first story on 60 Minutes last night, but the first story was about featuring parents whose kids have these horrible lives now. Now it looks like because of vaccinations they got.

[Joe Getty]

Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

That they didn't interact well with. Now that's. I don't think that's a story 60 Minutes would have done last year.

[Joe Getty]

No, no. So final note from Barry, I think for now is, she says, as proud as we are of the 1.5 million subscribers who've joined under the banner of the free press, and we are astonished at that number. This is a country with 340 million people. We want our work to reach more of them as quickly as possible. I actually believe she means that.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is something though to start out now, she had a very high profile start because of leaving the New York Times. It got so much attention. So it's not like, you know, just any random persons with a startup media empire, but that's still amazingly impressive growth.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And if you're not a subscriber, you know, you hear some of their content here, but it's, it's terrific old style journalism. They stuff that they say, stuff that challenges my beliefs all the time. They frequently, frequently challenge the views of the half wit, progressive incurious media. I mean, every single day. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I'm sure they're wrong sometimes. I don't care if you're wrong, if, if I believe that you're at least trying to get the story out correctly. That's your goal. Right?

[Joe Getty]

Well, and to their credit, if they are quote unquote wrong about something, either beholder, one of their other people will write a piece saying, hey Jim, you're wrong about this and here's why I think so. And they'll publish it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

With a link to the original piece. And then often they'll have a little dialogue between the two. Trust again. Trusting adults to weigh ideas like adults.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do you think of people who dominate conversations? Like you're at a restaurant, you got a table full of 10 people and one person does all the talking without noticing. What are you, what are your thoughts on that? Our text line 415295 KFTC Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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[Jack Armstrong]

While the Washington Post with a interesting piece about the shutdown and the specific of the Affordable Care act and what's going on there and the wrangling over there with this line, the real problem is that the Affordable Care act was never actually affordable. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

In the Washington Post.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll have to get into that more in our three because that's a, that's an interesting topic. We have been mentioning how nobody in the real world brings up the shutdown to us ever. Nobody's talking about the shutdown. However, several people were bringing this up story, this story up in real life, in case you didn't hear it.

[Co-host/Sidekick]

Prosecutors alleged Fox Sports analyst and former NFL quarterback Mark Sanchez approached a 69 year old box truck driver and escalated a dispute about the victim's parked vehicle. According to the probable cause affidavit, after Sanchez allegedly shoved the driver, the driver believed he was now in physical danger, grabbed his pepper spray and sprayed Mr. Sanchez in the face. The affidavit says Sanchez again advanced towards the driver saying the driver thought, this guy's trying to kill me. So he pulled his knife. And when Mr. Sanchez came at him, ultimately striking him multiple times. Police say when a detective tried to get a statement from Sanchez at the hospital, Mr. Sanchez said he did not know who did this to him or where it happened. Sanchez is now facing multiple criminal charges, including battery resulting in injury, public intoxication and unlawful entry of a motor vehicle.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you're not a sports fan, that's a pretty well known former NFL quarterback who's now part of the broadcast team for Fox. And the story broke on Saturday that Mark Sanchez had been stabbed. And then there were very few details at the time. And I thought it was at night in an alley near a bar. I thought, well, there's a lot of things that could have happened here. Let's not immediately jump to the how awful it is for Mark Sanchez side of things. I want to know what happened.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, if it's the way it was described there, he's scared.

[Joe Getty]

As it was presented to me on Sunday morning, I think was that Mark Sanchez had been stabbed several times and he got arrested and the stabber did not get arrested. And as I was talking to one of my golf buddies as an attorney, I said, wow, something really interesting happened. And the authorities are sure about it, about it because that just, that doesn't happen. Sure enough, it was all on video, as you know, the reporter at just described.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And I don't know if you've ever been around an NFL football player, but they are giant freaking human beings.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The small ones are huge and if.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of them was angry at you and physically coming after you, you would be scared for your life.

[Joe Getty]

And I guess he was hammered. So he's the, he's the angry drunk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Drunk.

[Joe Getty]

Apparently.

[Jack Armstrong]

If he. Well, for one thing, if he legit does not know who stabbed him, then yeah, he's got a bit of a problem there with that situation or that was a good dodge. I have no idea. But yeah, if it went. I've known a couple of football players in my life who liked to beat up smaller people. I thought it was despicable, but they like to do it. They like to get drunk and beat up smaller people.

[Joe Getty]

People.

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[Jack Armstrong]

They looked for any opportunity. And I don't know if he's one of those guys, but he could be.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, his career is. Bye bye. I would, I suspect absolutely his only chance and his publicist is working on this right now is a tearful and sincere. Taking a full responsibility, announcing that he's an alcoholic and going to rehab.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, he needs to get a hold of P. Diddy. Apparently that works. So P. Diddy did his whole. I am ashamed. I take full responsibility. I don't know what I was thinking having a decade worth of forced violent orgies. I guess I just, it's, you know, it was a mistake. And he got four years. He only got four years. And then the victim statement didn't happen because the victim didn't show up. And according to her people, she got a pretty nasty letter from his lawyers. I'm wondering if there weren't some other communications that weren't the legal kind of. Because she was supposed to testify Friday and do the whole victim statement. This is how it ruined my life. This is how awful it was. And she didn't show.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Fear.

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely fear. They got to her somehow. Hey, by the way, we know where your kids live. You know, that sort of thing. I'll betcha that's absolutely a P. Diddy sort of thing to do, right? He got four years for that. You gotta be kidding me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't remember what all he got convicted of. Honestly, I didn't have a strong opinion about that because I knew else.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, he's a freaking monster. He'll go out and do it again. Don't you think? I'd be shocked if he doesn't do that sort of thing again in his life.

[Joe Getty]

What sort of thing? Just drug and abuse.

[Jack Armstrong]

Women. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

I think maybe he's learned his lesson.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. Don't take him across state lines. Make sure that that's the lesson.

[Joe Getty]

Freak on. Unless. Oh, oh, speaking of which, that to me again, I don't remember specifically what he got convicted of. So I didn't really have opinion on that. But you remember the 22 year old guy who tried to kill Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh? He was half a nut job and was outside his house with burglary tools and weapons and said, yeah, I'm here to break into Kavanaugh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, or about the Roe versus Wade decision, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. A Biden appointed judge spent seven hours Friday justifying a shocking departure from sentencing guidelines lines. She sentenced him to a very, very slight sentence I don't have in front of me. But among this judge's speech or within it was Judge Boardman said Ms. Roski came out to herself as transgender in 2020 but kept it secret. This is the offender Ms. Rosky's sister came out as day two years prior, but Ms. Rosky saw that their parents struggled to reconcile her sexuality with their religious beliefs. I am heartened that this terrible infraction has helped the Rosky family accept their daughter for who she is. Wow, the judge said of this man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. That's more on that next hour.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Crazy Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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