That's Why They Call It Work!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "That's Why They Call It Work!"

Date: October 29, 2025
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand (iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty (joined by Katie) dive into the often-maligned world of entry-level and unpleasant jobs, reflect on how early work experiences shape character, and scrutinize the attitudes of the so-called “anti-work” movement. The hosts share personal stories of difficult bosses and mindless retail tasks and respond—with characteristic sarcasm and exasperation—to popular anti-work sentiments found online. The episode is a blend of personal anecdotes, cultural critique, and dark humor, all delivered in a conversational, irreverent tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Unpleasant First Jobs Shape Us

• Stories shared: All three hosts recount their own lousy early jobs and the lessons learned.
  • Katie: Clothing retail at PacSun—dealing with rude customers and thankless folding tasks.
    • Katie: “I just remember the rage I felt when I had just finished folding a pile of T-shirts and these idiot teeny boppers came in and…screwed the whole thing up. And I’m like, what am I doing right?” (05:07)
  • Armstrong: Working at a leather store with an incompetent, narcissistic boss:
    • Armstrong: “You stand there and have nothing to do for long periods of time.” (04:34)
  • Getty: Laments jobs where there’s “nothing to do,” stating that’s actually worse than being busy. (05:02)
• Philosophy: Entry-level jobs are valuable, humbling, and motivation to develop skills for better opportunities.

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2. Critique of the 'Anti-Work' Movement

• Reddit’s “antiwork” thread: The hosts read and mock posts from the popular Reddit forum, which boasts millions of followers who question the necessity or morality of work.
  • Getty ponders: “It’s people who don’t believe in work, which is weird to me. And I don’t know how you grew up in such a way…” (10:13)
  • Armstrong expresses incredulity at “being forced to work 40+ hours a week so you can get money to pay to live on a planet you didn’t even ask to be on.” (13:32)
  • Armstrong: “I exist, therefore I am oppressed because nobody asked me if I wanted to exist. Right.” (13:56)

Notable Quotes:

• Armstrong (re: victimhood):
  “In the progressive world, you absolutely must be a victim. That's the only way to have any standing. What is the absolute bedrock, lowest common denominator of victimhood? Existence.” (13:56)
• Getty (replying to antiwork logic):
  “You wouldn't exist if you hadn't been brought into existence. So what?” (15:56)
• Katie (on antiwork lingo):
  “That was pretty much verbatim what that chick on TikTok was saying.” (13:42)

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3. Mockery and Dark Humor on the 'Burden' of Existence

• The hosts take jabs at antiwork memes and language: Words like “impeled by violence to perform labor” and “micro injuries” draw laughter and biting satire.
  • Getty: “If the manager keeps insulting me, I will be assaulting him.” (05:34)
  • Armstrong: “Are you a bull rider? What are you talking about? I suppose all of those damn injuries and all those fields, people with any sense and capability, they do the physical part.” (17:18)
• Running gags: Armstrong’s new retirement plan is to respond to online antiwork rants with “You’re a loser,” nothing more.
  • Armstrong: “I’m going to spend my entire life posting online ‘you’re a loser.’ Nothing more, nothing less. No arguments, no obscenities. Just, ‘you’re a loser.’” (16:08)
• Dark euphemisms for opting out of life:
  • Getty: “Gargle a barrel,” “shotgun tonsillectomy,” “walk west till your hat floats.” (14:40–15:31)
    [The hosts clarify these as harsh, gallows-humor references, but they highlight the absurdity of complaints about mere existence.]

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4. Scamming the System: EBT Anecdotes

• Katie recalls working retail and witnessing government benefit fraud:
  • Customers use EBT (food stamps) for small purchases to get cash back, then immediately buy alcohol. (20:01)
  • Katie: “This a-hole had the balls to buy the 49 cent Apple, get $40 cash back from me, go and grab a bottle of vodka, and then came back through my line. And it took everything out of my soul to not just be like, you prick.” (20:01)
• Armstrong and Getty: Suggest harsh solutions with sarcastic bumper sticker slogans like “Starve the Lazy.” (19:30, 21:13)
• Getty: “I want the T-shirt, I want the hat. I want the bumper stickers. Starve the lazy.” (19:44)

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5. The Futility of Anti-Work Logic

• Getty attempts to reason with anti-work ideology:
  • “Do you think that person could be convinced in a half an hour of reasoning that that doesn’t make any sense? Or would they just find a way around your logic of where’s this stuff supposed to come from?” (21:17)
  • Armstrong and Getty conclude such beliefs are rooted more in ideology than logic, especially in older adherents.
  • Armstrong summarizes the antiwork economic worldview as a cartoonish form of Marxism and entitlement. (22:15–22:28)

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6. Reflection and Takeaway

• Getty and Katie both stress that bad jobs are formative, not traumatic, and children should experience them to understand real life and be motivated to improve.
  • Getty: “As a teenager, the crappy jobs, they taught me what I didn’t want to do in life and pushed me forward.” (22:35)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On victimhood:
  • Armstrong: “What is the absolute bedrock, lowest common denominator of victimhood? Existence.” (13:56)
• On early work's value:
  • Getty: “[Crappy jobs as a teenager] taught me what I didn’t want to do in life and pushed me forward." (22:35)
• On EBT fraud:
  • Katie: “This a-hole had the balls to buy the 49 cent Apple, get $40 cash back from me, go and grab a bottle of vodka, and then came back through my line…” (20:01)
• On the antiwork movement:
  • Armstrong: “No, I hate these. You’re a loser.” (19:07)
• On ‘micro injuries’:
  • Getty: “I love the term micro injuries.”
  • Katie: “Stubbing your toe?” (17:13–17:16)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:27 – Unpleasant job stories: Retail & bad bosses
• 05:02 – The dread of idle retail shifts
• 10:13 – Antiwork subreddit introduction
• 13:32 – Mocking antiwork memes and attitudes
• 16:08 – Armstrong’s “You’re a loser” campaign
• 17:12 – Satire of “micro injuries” and antiwork grievances
• 19:30 – EBT benefit scams and “Starve the Lazy” movement
• 21:17 – Debating with antiwork ideology
• 22:35 – The value of crappy jobs in youth

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Episode Tone & Style

The entire episode is marked by a conversational, irreverent tone. The hosts use sarcastic jabs, dark humor, and personal reminiscence to challenge what they see as unrealistic views about work and entitlement. The segment is energetic, opinionated, and occasionally harsh—even gleefully so—but always in the spirit of exasperated social commentary.

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Takeaway

Armstrong & Getty argue that work—especially bad or entry-level work—is a rite of passage and a vital motivator for personal growth. They sharply criticize the antiwork mindset as unrealistic and rooted in affluence or indoctrination, and they see work as not only necessary but formative. The episode stands as a defense of the work ethic, laced with both humor and exasperation at cultural trends to the contrary.

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That's why they call it work. It's one more thing Armstrong and Getty.

[Armstrong]

One more thing.

[Getty]

Joe and I have recounted over the many years are some of our unpleasant jobs we've had in our lives. Having both started working relatively young as children and.

[Armstrong]

Child labor, the scourge of.

[Getty]

Child labor ever had an unpleasant job. Katie?

[Katie]

Yeah, I worked in clothing.

[Getty]

This one, the bosses suck the worst.

[Katie]

Clothing retail you didn't like, sucked. Yeah, I, I worked it. I worked at PacSun, which the store was itself. It was great. It was my favorite store, but I was in the mall and just all the just bitchy people that rolled through there.

[Armstrong]

I did that for a summer. I guess it was. It's funny, I kind of forgotten about it. I had just gotten married, I was still in college and I needed a gig during the summer. And so I went to work at this leather store. Not like, you know, S M, just coats. And that's the thing. Anyway, all right, so is snm, but Assless Chaps.

[Katie]

But it smelled great in there. I love the smell of leather.

[Getty]

Yeah, me too.

[Armstrong]

But my boss was this. I think he was a year or two younger than me. Half wit. But he was the boss. So I said, okay, I had to. He would, he would, you know, tell me what to do. And half the time he didn't make any sense. And he was so full of himself because he was the assistant manager of some leather store in a mall in Champagne, Illinois. And oh, it's just miserable. You stand there and have nothing to do for long periods of time.

[Getty]

Having nothing to do is worse than being busy.

[Armstrong]

By far, way worse.

[Katie]

I just remember the rage I felt when I had just finished folding a pile of T shirts and these idiot teeny boppers came in and they were looking for a size and they just screwed the whole thing up. And I'm like, what am I doing right?

[Getty]

Kanye's got a song about folding khakis at the Gap.

[Armstrong]

Really?

[Getty]

Yeah, it's a really good song.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, it's pretty close to digging a hole and filling it back in. Yeah over again.

[Getty]

If the manager keeps insulting me I will be assaulting him.

[Katie]

I can relate.

[Getty]

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The reason I just brought that up is about to read some of these posts from the anti work Reddit thread which we've talked about on the air before. It's got millions of followers and it's people who don't believe in work, which is weird to me. And I don't know how you grew up in such a way. Our schools clearly don't make it, but your parents didn't make it ever clear to you that everybody's got to work and your early jobs are going to be sucky and surprised by that. I mean, that's been such a common theme since my kids were little and My kid, my oldest turned 16 here in a couple of months and he gets to start working. I think he's going to work at Target. I can't wait for him to have a sucky job. I'm looking forward to having him having a sucky job. I think I saw what it did for my nieces, how they grew so much as people. In a year of having a job where you got to do a bunch of stuff you don't want to do, it's like the best thing that can happen to you. So it's amazing to me that so many people think that's a horror. When I, as a parent, I'm looking forward to my kids and having bad entry level jobs as one, a reality check and two, a motivation for, you know, coming up with some skills so you don't do that the rest of your life.

[Armstrong]

That attitude has to be from indoctrination or affluence, I would guess, or laziness. But I mean, if you. Because I'm thinking back to when I was a kid and if I wanted to buy anything or have anything, I had to earn the money. We weren't poor, but there was no money to spare. I remember the first time as an adult, I bought Ziploc bags, for instance. There's no freaking way we had Ziplocs in my house because they were more expensive than the kind you fold over or tie with a little twist tie, stuff like that. So again, we're not poor, but there wasn't a lot of money around. And I remember being like, wait a minute, I can do that for a while and they'll give me money and. And then I can buy things I want and do things I want. Let's get started. At age 11, when I first lied about my age, I've always seen it as an opportunity. And it is hard to figure out people who don't see it like that unless they've always had that base of a really comfortable life and they think, why am I having to work to maintain this? Or I don't know.

[Getty]

It seems so strange. I know our old producer Vince, who he had, he had not an easy upbringing, but he used to. When people would complain about things like particularly fast food work because he'd worked at McDonald's, he'd say, get a better job. If you don't like it, get a better job. Or get some skills where he can get a better job. Don't just keep working at McDonald's and think somehow it's gonna magically become a fun place. To be or easy or something.

[Armstrong]

Or that that entry level job ought to feed a family of four.

[Sports Commentator]

Right?

[Getty]

Anyway, to the anti work thread, some of these. Here's a cartoon. It's got the money bags. Guy from Monopoly with the top hat. Capitalism means freedom of choice. Your choice is either get exploited or die on the street. Okay, okay. Katie mentioned this one. I guess this is making the rounds.

[Sports Commentator]

It's.

[Getty]

It's actually Ariana Grande, but that's. She's looking at her nails, so. Just like a press.

[Sports Commentator]

A press.

[Getty]

There you go. What are y' all mad about today? And the answer was being forced to work 40 plus hours a week so you can get money to pay to live on a planet you didn't even ask to be on.

[Katie]

Yeah, that was pretty much verbatim what that chick on TikTok was saying.

[Getty]

What a weird way to look at the world that is. You're mad today you got to work 40 hours a week to be able to afford to live on a planet you. You didn't even ask to be on.

[Armstrong]

Oh, you know what? It just clicked into my head. It just clicked into my head in progressive. I was going to say America, but it's. It's global, practically global. In the progressive world, you absolutely must be a victim. That's the only way to have any standing. What is the absolute bedrock, lowest common denominator of victimhood? Existence. You can't get more basic than that. I exist, therefore I am oppressed because nobody asked me if I wanted to exist. Right.

[Katie]

My parents wanted to have a field.

[Armstrong]

In the CD of oppression. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Look at me being oppressed by existing.

[Sports Commentator]

I didn't want.

[Armstrong]

Pity me. Give me stuff.

[Getty]

Yeah, well, gargle a barrel or do something. I mean, whatever you want to do to check out, that's your option, but gargle a barrel.

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[Sports Commentator]

What?

[Getty]

It's a fancy euphemism for killing yourself.

[Armstrong]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Getty]

Oh, I get it. I get it now.

[Katie]

The barrel.

[Armstrong]

Okay.

[Katie]

Oh, that's gonna be a new insult of mine. Go gargle a barrel.

[Armstrong]

Gargle a barrel. I still don't get it.

[Katie]

You'll die.

[Armstrong]

Oh, the barrel of. I was picturing like a barrel.

[Katie]

Yeah, me too. Oh, I was too.

[Armstrong]

Cask of wine.

[Getty]

Okay.

[Armstrong]

Cargo, apparel. Oh, now I get it.

[Getty]

Oh, that's harsh.

[Katie]

I laughed at it when I was thinking of the wrong thing.

[Armstrong]

Anyway, so leave the effing planet. You don't like existing.

[Katie]

Walk west till your hat.

[Armstrong]

I don't think it's a Good idea. But, yeah, make yourself happy and be dead.

[Getty]

Walk west till your hat floats. That's a good one.

[Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

[Getty]

What is that? I heard another one the other day. The old shotgun tonsillectomy. That's what I heard.

[Armstrong]

Oh, lordy.

[Getty]

Well, yeah, that is harsh.

[Sports Commentator]

But what are you.

[Getty]

What are you freaking saying?

[Armstrong]

I know that's weird.

[Katie]

You're complaining about being born.

[Getty]

Yes.

[Katie]

Clearly you don't want to be here.

[Getty]

Somebody wronged you by bringing you into existence. And you see, here's the conundrum here. You wouldn't exist if you hadn't been brought into existence. So what?

[Armstrong]

You're breaking my brain is still oppressing me with your logic. All right, here's. I've got my plan. My second chapter, if you will. Some people retire and they mentor youths or they, you know, volunteer in food kitchens, whatever. I'm going to retire from this gig. I'll miss you all. Good luck. And I'm going to spend my entire life posting online. You're a loser. Just those three. Well, four, technically words. There's a contraction in there. You're a loser. And I am going to organize people to aid me. And we are going to spend all of our time replying to all of these posts with, you're a loser. Nothing more, nothing less. No arguments, no obscenities, just, you're a loser.

[Katie]

I like it.

[Getty]

Sounds like a plan. It sticks.

[Armstrong]

It's very Zen.

[Getty]

So there's this one from the anti work. Anti work does not mean I should get to live a life of a king and eat Doritos while other people do all the hard work. Anti work means, it sure would be nice if I wasn't impelled by violence to perform labor which racks my body with micro injuries that will leave me disabled by 60.

[Armstrong]

Oh, no.

[Getty]

I love the term micro injuries.

[Katie]

Stubbing your toe?

[Armstrong]

Are you a bull rider? What are you talking about? I suppose all of those damn injuries and all those fields, people with any sense and capability, they do the physical part.

[Getty]

No micro injuries. I assume they're talking about, like, you know, your neck hurts from staring at a computer. Computer or.

[Katie]

I got a micro injury yesterday with my paper cut. Yeah, you guys are killing me.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, I like the whole impelled by violence thing. Because speech is violence and persuasion to violence and giving me a nasty look is violence. And posting you're a loser over and over again on the Internet is violence. So you're impelling me with violence. Stop it.

[Getty]

So I went to the anti work threaded and I clicked on. This is one of the cool things you can do on Reddit, most commented on last day, week, month, year. So I went most commented on the last year. Luigi Mangioni leads the way. Lots and lots up with him. Lots and lot. He is the poster child of that crowd. Isn't that interesting? The anti work crowd holds him up as a hero because he murdered a guy who runs a company.

[Katie]

Father.

[Getty]

So wild. It's disturbing that there are millions of people on this thread.

[Armstrong]

I want all those people on a list. Yeah, not sure what I'm gonna do with it yet, but it would be handy. We'll need it eventually.

[Getty]

I'll end with this one in case you still don't understand the anti work ethos. Just a reminder. We don't think no one should work. We understand there need to be doctors, teachers, nurses, cooks, waiters, etc. For society to function. We just believe that no one should have to work in order to survive. Food, water and housing should be guaranteed human rights. We were all born into the system without being able to agree to it. We shouldn't be punished for existing. We should all be able to have our basic needs met. And work should be something you want to do to earn more.

[Armstrong]

No, I hate these. You're a loser.

[Katie]

I hate them. I really do.

[Armstrong]

You know, we got this email from David. I was going to do it in Mailbag, then I dropped it and it went under the desk and I couldn't reach it in time. And he says a huge number of people are scamming those EBT funds. You're talking about Jack. Starve the Lazy. Go get Jobs. His program is Starve the Lazy.

[Katie]

I like that. I like it.

[Getty]

Get that bumper sticker. And I, you know, I'm going to get a lot of my tires.

[Armstrong]

Cyber Truck.

[Getty]

Yeah, no kidding. You're just going to have to have.

[Armstrong]

A trailer behind your truck with dozens of tires ready to go onto your truck.

[Getty]

I love the message. I want the T shirt, I want the hat. I want the bumper stickers. Starve the lazy.

[Armstrong]

That's the Armstrong and Getty stupid should herd of the 21st century. Yeah.

[Getty]

Starve the lazy.

[Armstrong]

That is so good, Hanson. Get to work, buddy. He's working on it, but, you know, go ahead.

[Katie]

Well, no. So, scamming the ebt. I don't know if I've told you guys this before, and forgive me if I have, but when I worked at a grocery store, I will never forget the day that I was running the cash register and this guy came through my line and bought an apple for 49 cents. They were doing eat. I don't, I don't know if they still do this. I'm assuming they do EBT cash back. Oh, so it was like a debit card. This a hole had the balls to buy the 49 cent Apple, get $40 or get $40 cash back from me, go and grab a bottle of vodka, and then came back through my line. And it took everything out of my soul to not just be like, you prick.

[Getty]

Yeah, that's the, the lie that the left always claims. You can't buy junk food with your EBT cards, you can't buy booze, you can't buy cigarettes, but obviously this is lottery tickets. This is the way you get around it.

[Katie]

Oh my God.

[Armstrong]

One somebody explains to you how to do that.

[Katie]

Day one in the, in the Bay Area. I have a picture of it from like years ago at a sports bar and at a Sally's beauty supply shop. EBT ATM machines right in front of the shop. So you just stick your EBT card in, get the money, and then you go into the sports bar, drink your beers, and go buy your hair extension.

[Getty]

Starve the lazy.

[Armstrong]

Star of the lazy. Who's with us?

[Getty]

Final question before we end today. That thing I just read from the guy who said we shouldn't have to work to survive. Food, water, housing should be guaranteed. We were born into this system without choosing it, blah, blah, blah. Do you think that person could be convinced in a half an hour of reasoning that that doesn't make any sense? Or would they just find a way around your logic of where's this stuff supposed to come from? I find somebody has to pay. Those people have to work to provide enough income to have a tax base to provide all these things. Why would anybody work if they could get it for free?

[Armstrong]

If they're 16, posting away on the Internet? Yeah, I could convince them. If they're 32, probably not.

[Getty]

But what do they think? Where do they. Do they. I hate to sound like those commercials don't turn into your parents. Those commercials are hilarious. But did they actually think money grows on trees? I mean, where do they think the stuff comes from?

[Armstrong]

The rich have more than they need, so they need to be taxed heavily. And that's where the money comes from. How did the rich get their money? They inherited it. And by exploiting the working class.

[Getty]

Okay?

[Armstrong]

It's Marxism.

[Getty]

It's fun. Starve the lazy.

[Armstrong]

Yes, starve the lazy. Who's with me?

[Katie]

As a teenager, the crappy jobs, they taught me what I didn't want to.

[Getty]

Do in life and pushed me forward. Exactly right.

[Katie]

Well, I guess that's it.

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[Armstrong]

Let's go.

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Week 10 Bajan Robinson and the Falcons take on Daniel Jones and the Colts in Berlin.

[Getty]

Fireworks in the fourth quarter.

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