The A&G Replay Friday Hour One

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: The A&G Replay Friday Hour One Release Date: January 3, 2025

Hosts:

• Jack Armstrong
• Joe Getty

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Introduction

In the episode titled "The A&G Replay Friday Hour One," hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into the intricate dynamics of race, identity, and societal changes in contemporary America. Broadcasting from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, the duo offers a candid and often provocative analysis of current socio-political landscapes.

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The State of Race and DEI in America

Discussion Overview: Jack and Joe tackle the contentious topics of race relations and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives. They critique the effectiveness of DEI programs, arguing that instead of fostering true diversity, these initiatives may inadvertently exacerbate racial tensions.

Notable Insights:

• Poll Findings: Referencing a Manhattan Institute poll, the hosts highlight that racial attitudes in the U.S. have regressed since the 1990s. Specifically, Joe Getty cites that nearly 70% of Americans advocate for a colorblind society, countering narratives that suggest mainstream media promotes race-conscious policies.

  Joe Getty [07:21]: "Almost 70% of Americans say we should focus on creating a colorblind society."

• Authenticity of Media Narratives: The hosts express skepticism towards media portrayals of race, suggesting a disconnect between mainstream media narratives and public opinion.

  Jack Armstrong [04:16]: "I suspect it's sincere. Oh yeah. I mean, they should be locked up."

Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [05:11]: "The fact that a philosophy that insane and insanely stupid would have any currency in the modern world is frightening to me."

• Joe Getty [09:45]: "We should be colorblind on all this sort of stuff. It's a 20 point win for Democrats for young people."

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Media Influence and Perception

Discussion Overview: The conversation shifts to the impact of media and algorithms on shaping public perception. Using philosophical metaphors like Plato's Cave, Jack and Joe argue that modern media distorts reality, leading to a skewed understanding of societal issues.

Notable Insights:

• Plato’s Cave Analogy: The hosts liken society's media consumption to prisoners in Plato's Cave, suggesting that people are seeing only the "shadows" of reality, crafted by media narratives.

  Joe Getty [12:09]: "Well, all of society has become Plato's Cave, except it's the Internet now."

• Identity in Economics: Drawing from economist George Akerloff and Rachel Crichton, they discuss how identity plays a crucial role in economic decisions, often overriding rational analysis.

  Jack Armstrong [19:45]: "Identity may be the most important economic decision people make."

Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [12:31]: "Like you had your moment of clarity, then it was time to go to work."

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Personal Reflections and Philosophical Musings

Discussion Overview: Joe Getty shares a personal narrative inspired by Jim Carrey's reflections on forgiveness and self-identity. This segment provides a more introspective look at personal struggles with acceptance and letting go of preconceived life visions.

Notable Insights:

• Letting Go: Joe emphasizes the importance of accepting unchangeable life circumstances to achieve personal peace.

  Joe Getty [17:08]: "It’s not going to be that. It’s stupid. Stay nailed to that and try to force a square peg into a round hole."

• Common Wisdom: The hosts reiterate the value of timeless sayings that encourage acceptance and moving forward.

  Jack Armstrong [18:05]: "It's straight out of Buddhism. It is saying amen. It is saying, so be it."

Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [18:32]: "Like you had your moment of clarity, then it was time to go to work."

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Socioeconomics and Identity in Decision Making

Discussion Overview: The conversation delves into the intersection of socioeconomics and identity, exploring how personal and societal identities influence career choices, consumer behavior, and overall life satisfaction.

Notable Insights:

• Educational Choices: The hosts discuss studies showing that students' academic pursuits are often aligned with their perceived identities and social recognitions rather than purely academic strengths.

  Jack Armstrong [24:29]: "A student who sees his strength in social leadership rather than academic achievement might choose to invest more in social endeavors."

• Workplace Identity: They critique the idea of retraining individuals into roles that conflict with their identities, arguing that job satisfaction is deeply tied to personal and societal identities.

  Jack Armstrong [22:47]: "In labor markets, workers are motivated by wages, of course, but also by how well their job aligns with their identities."

Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [26:26]: "And you're as white as they come."

• Joe Getty [23:15]: "It's not just about the money."

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Media Bias and Critical Reception of Controversial Content

Discussion Overview: Jack and Joe analyze the reception of Matt Walsh's film "Am I Racist?" They express frustration over mainstream media's deliberate silence and lack of critical reviews for the movie, attributing it to fear of its anti-woke messaging.

Notable Insights:

• Media Avoidance: The hosts argue that major outlets are avoiding reviewing the film to prevent confronting its controversial themes.

  Jack Armstrong [34:06]: "There was a revolution. Revelations, not revolutions. Revolution is that the Founding Fathers designed the Constitution to be ironclad against any takeover."

• Cultural Warfare: They frame the film as part of a broader battle against what they term "neo Marxism" disguised through various social theories.

  Joe Getty [35:16]: "We are at the end of the beginning, not the beginning of the end."

Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [34:56]: "Am I Racist? Been so successful because we specifically didn’t churn out another safe, predictable Hollywood style film."

• Joe Getty [35:26]: "Any of the Michael Moore movies. Not only does it get endless reviews, it wins Oscars."

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Conclusion

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty wrap up the episode by reiterating the importance of questioning mainstream narratives and seeking truth beyond media portrayals. They encourage listeners to engage critically with the information presented to them and to remain vigilant against societal shifts that may undermine individual and collective freedoms.

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Notable Quotes Recap:

• Jack Armstrong [04:16]: "They should be locked up."
• Joe Getty [07:21]: "Almost 70% of Americans say we should focus on creating a colorblind society."
• Jack Armstrong [05:11]: "It’s so post enlightenment. It is so post, you know, racial healing."
• Jack Armstrong [34:56]: "Am I Racist? Been so successful because we specifically didn’t churn out another safe, predictable Hollywood style film."

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Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

Now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Armstrong and Getty. And now here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Get. Not live from Studio C. Armstrong and Getty. We're off for taking a break. Come on.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

On the topic of race, this is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Going to end up being good news.

[Joe Getty]

You'Re going to be happy about. Okay, this is not a downer segment. When I get to some statistics that back up what you think, what you what we think, what your neighbors think, as opposed to what you're being told every single day. But first, this what are we about to hear?

[Katie]

Katie so this is from a YouTube podcast called so True. And it's Caleb Heron, who is a gay comedian, and Nori Reed, who is queer and I believe trans. Talking about their.

[Joe Getty]

One of them's gay and one of them's queer.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't, I don't use the term queer. And I, I spank you verbally using it. It's an all purpose term. That just means I'm against the man, man.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, go ahead.

[Caleb Heron]

My dad is white and I can't do anything about that. Yeah, there's nothing I can do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry.

[Caleb Heron]

I'm gonna cry because I can't do anything about that.

[Nori Reed]

I hate that you had to go through that.

[Caleb Heron]

Thank you.

[Nori Reed]

As somebody of white experience.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you.

[Nori Reed]

I know how bad it can be.

[Caleb Heron]

But my mom is full on Asian.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you.

[Nori Reed]

That's beautiful. When my dad died, I cheered because I said, that's one less white man. Yeah, that's how progressive I am.

[Caleb Heron]

Oh my God. Yeah, I like talk about Ally.

[Nori Reed]

I said, get him out of here.

[Caleb Heron]

Get him out of here.

[Nori Reed]

I said take him away, Satan.

[Caleb Heron]

And that's kind of how it works, right? It's like if one white person dies and you say that, like a person of color kind of comes into the world.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah. A diverse story gets elevated.

[Caleb Heron]

It's kind of like a spiritual.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Caleb Heron]

Experience.

[Joe Getty]

Here's the problem with everything in modern society. You play that for me. Ten years ago, I know they're jerking me around, that they're just saying that to be provocative. But now everything is so crazy. That could be them saying that to jerk me around, or it could be a hundred percent what they believe and I have no idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

I suspect it's sincere.

[Joe Getty]

Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Oh yeah. I mean, they should be locked up. I have insane folder of stories ready to go about the so called DEI programs and universities and various corporations, the government, and how utterly racist and twisted they are. Yeah. Katie, would you like to weigh in on the authenticity or sincerity of the two gentlemen?

[Katie]

Well, it, it seemed quite sincere. And that's kind of the theme of this podcast is mega left progressive hitting all the talking points that the media salivates over.

[Jack Armstrong]

The fact that a philosophy that insane and insanely stupid would have any currency in the modern world is frightening to me. It is so post enlightenment. It is so post, you know, racial healing. It's ugly, it's obscene, and yet it has infected so many of our institutions.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I remember when in California, and this is probably 10, 15 years ago, white people were going to cease being the majority. They were still going to be the biggest group, but they weren't the majority of California. And the line got crossed. There were more people that weren't white than were white for the first time ever. And the cheering and celebration about that, it's just so weird to me. Not that I cheer having more white people than every. Who's cheering percentage of. Of race. That's nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Folks who have been converted to the church of DEI of Wokism before it was, it was called that.

[Joe Getty]

I remember. When I remember, I can remember like it's yesterday. I won't mention the name, but our newsman Marsha Phillips did the story and another person who was a person of color on the show cheered.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's like, why is that thrilling for you? That will be now less. I mean, what do you think is going to happen because of that?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think they think about that much at all. They've just been recruited again into the cult of racial politics and that's been super successful through the years. But if you want to see how that works, go to the Middle East. Go to, you know, any of your capitals of your Muslim states and announce that you're a proud Christian or an atheist. That's worse. You'll be treated. Tell them you're a gay atheist. Okay. If you want to see how sectarian politics works, go ahead.

[Joe Getty]

So a poll. That is good news then. This is from the Manhattan Institute, serious organization. All polls, not this one. But polls have shown we've gone backwards on race since the 90s. Things have actually gotten worse racially in this country in terms of attitudes since the 90s with, you know, being more focused on race in theory to make it better has made it worse. I think we're all pretty much aware of that. And so. So they ask people the question or you're given two choices here. Actually you're given three. Not sure is always a choice and you always have, you know, a tiny percentage of people. So. Oh no, I, I just, I want to hang out with those people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Think about it for a minute. I'll wait. No, I don't know. When you look around, I mean in your real life it's gotten better or worse.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. No opinion. But the other two choices you have are we should focus on creating a race conscious society to repair the harms of the past by developing policies that benefit marginalized groups. That's what we have been doing since the early 90s. The other choice was we should focus on creating a colorblind society where everyone is treated equally regardless of the color of their skin. That's what we were doing more or less post Martin Luther King Jr. Pre the early 90s. When things were actually getting better. Overall, it's 60, 68%. The second choice. Almost 70% of Americans say we should focus on creating a colorblind society. Sorry. The most popular book in America, at least according to all the TV hosts, was that Ibram Kendi crap about there's no such. Colorblind is code for racist. There's no such thing as being. I don't kick about color. That means you're a racist. Okay, well 70% of America doesn't agree with that. And you start breaking it down by. By different groups and it's just astounding. First of all, it's every single group. It's majority. The, the smallest majority at just 50% is black people said that. But even 50% of black people said that versus 37% who chose the other. So 50, 37. You always say it's a good idea to. Because it's not always. Just doesn't always add up to 100.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right.

[Joe Getty]

So only 37% of black people choose the we should focus on race conscious society and make everything about race for all the other groups.

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[Jack Armstrong]

And I would like to see the black folks divide by age in that answer. I think over 40, it'd be vanishingly small.

[Joe Getty]

Even Democrats. It's a 20 point win for let's be colorblind on all this sort of stuff. It's a 20 point win for Democrats for young people which might be most susceptible to this sort of crap. It's 56 to 30, 26 point win for let's be a colorblind society.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Wow. You were quite right when you mentioned we were going to be talking about this. This is absolutely the polar opposite of what you would be led to believe by taking in the mainstream media.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe you think the college crowd would be into this stuff. Nope. It's 65, 28. We should be a colorblind society for the college crowd.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yet we've all been hammered with Dei and Robin D'Angelo and Ibram Kendi and. And all of that garbage. There's a big study out that we touched on. We didn't really go into it. We should have that. That the $8 billion spent every year on diversity training in the US is demonstrably accomplishing the opposite of what it claims. Which is not surprising because as I and you and James Lindsay and other people have been trying to communicate, DEI isn't intending to get diversity. That's not what it's there for. It's an instrument of the takeover of institutions with the Excuse of racial justice. That's a dodge. It's the sheep's clothing the wolf is wearing.

[Joe Getty]

It also shows that it's the minority opinion by a lot that's into. It's the first Hispanic quarterback to ever win a Super bowl or this is the first Indian American to go into space. Or this is all that never ending crap is the minority opinion. Most people don't want that. They don't want to focus on who's what color, whatever. Just tell me Jim won the super bowl or Sandy became secretary or whatever or what. But leave that out of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Amen to that. Yeah, man. Well, that's heartening. That's some excellent news.

[Joe Getty]

I agree.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm glad. Yeah. And, and just, and this has been the message of our show for a very, very long time. The truth is, is what you live and what you see and what you and your friends think and don't be talked out of the truth by the, the weirdos of the mainstream media who are, you know, seeing their influe increase moment by moment anyway. It's, it's easy to feel alone because we have this electronic media driven life that in, in a hundred years we've gone from 98 of our interactions were in person in the same room with a human being to most of our perception of the world comes from media that is feeding it to us and it is perverted our sense of reality. I think.

[Joe Getty]

Well, all of society has become Plato's Cave, except it's the Internet now. Instead of shadows on a wall.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got my kids Plato's Cave for Christmas. They played before with it for like two days and then it went back in the closet.

[Joe Getty]

Right, the Plato cave.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now tell us about Plato's Cave. You have to jump over Chesterton's fence to get in.

[Joe Getty]

See, I did. These people are in a dark cave and they're just seeing shadows from a fire and they come up with these perceptions of what the world is and then they finally get out of the cave and realize that they are completely wrong. I mean completely misled by the, the, the perceptions that they were given by that. And it's got long philosopher philosophical legs and tentacles going from there. But that is what we're doing with all this stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would agree. Yeah, the media, we've used the term funhouse mirrors or whatever, but Plato's Cave is a good illustration of it too.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. I can only imagine the horror.

[Joe Getty]

Just a heads up. Yes, Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

Why was I up last night late watching Jim Carrey pontificate about the meaning of life? I didn't even know actor Jim Carrey did that sort of thing. I've never been a Jim Carrey fan, really. Like, I like Dumb and Dumber and I pet detective and all that, but I just. I like to stand up. But I just. I hated the Truman Show. I just. I don't know. I've never been into him. I thought he was a pompous ass until last night when I clicked on a Jim Carrey short and he was talking about. Actually, he was talking about forgiveness and Jesus and all kinds of different stuff. I didn't know he was such a believer, but he is. And the reason I got sucked into that probably was stuff I was looking for. I am. I got divorced three and a half years ago, and I am not happy with where my life is. I. I don't like the fact that I'm a single dad and my kids are living up in a. Living. Growing up in a split household. I hate that. I hate it so much. And I haven't been able to accept it and let it go at. At all since the day I found out about it, which is. Which is not healthy because you got no choice. With certain things that come your way in life, you got no choice. You. You. You got to accept them and move on. And I. And I've done that with everything in my life. Everything ever in my life. All kinds of bad things that happen. My life, except for this one. And I haven't been able to nudge an inch on this one for some reason, and it drives me nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably because you're reminded of the effects of it all the time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's part of it. Yeah. Is the. The effects of it are all day, every day. But. But anyway, so I got into this. This. Somehow I was fed through the algorithm this stuff about Jim Carrey and it was, it was bigger than even that. It was just the idea of, you know, now is all we've got and accepting life for what it is and not having expectations. And really his main thing is just getting rid of your idea of who you are because it's all made up in your head anyway and just living your life, you know, moment by moment, best you can with, by your morals and visions of what you want, but just letting go of your whole vision of yourself. He, his belief is everybody's torment, depression and all kinds of different stuff comes from, from a vision they have of who they are, who they wanted to be. And it's not meeting up with reality. And if, and if you just let go of all of that because you created it in your own mind, it wasn't like, you know, God said, this is who you have to pretend to be the rest of your life if you just let go of all of that. He said he had the kind of like gift of becoming rich and successful and all these different things and realizing it didn't make him happy before he was able to let go of all that stuff. Not everybody has the opportunity but just to really realize that didn't do anything that didn't help me at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Boy, there are a million directions to go with this discussion.

[Joe Getty]

It's very deep and very interesting. And I, and I had like a brief five minute period of like really understanding it while I was laying in bed last night and thinking, I think I can do this. This is the answer. Let going, letting go of the vision of what I, what I thought life was going to be. Because it's not going to be that. It's stupid. Stay nailed to that and try to force a square peg into a round hole. It'll never work. But then I lost it when I got up this morning.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's disappointing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, maybe I'll, maybe I'll get it back later today or maybe you have to work at it over time. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is silly and trivial compared to that question, but I ran into somebody the other day who, somebody said it is what it is. And they expressed that. I hate that. They said I hate that expression. And then, and I realize any expression, if it's overused becomes very annoying, but it is what it is, is the expression of an ancient, ancient piece of wisdom. It's Buddhism. It is saying, yeah, it's straight out of Buddhism. It's straight of Christianity, it is saying amen. It is saying, so be it. I have accepted it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And I, I always like this phrase of if something doesn't have a solution, it's not a problem. Dealing with everything like it's a problem doesn't make any sense. Things without a solution are a fact. They're not a problem. And so now you just go on with your life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, it does help to kind of stop and contemplate this stuff and try to figure out which is which.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Like you had your moment of clarity, then it was time to go to work. And I had it up here a second ago.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Some economists have finally woken up to the fact that human beings are not like computerized decision makers. There are all sorts of things that enter into economics. In particular, as Nobel Prize winning economist George Akerloff and his collaborator Rachel Crichton said wrote years and years ago, identity may be the most important economic decision people make. And it has to do with how you see yourself, how you want to project an identity. What group of people do you consider yourself part of? And you make all sorts of economic decisions based on not rational analysis, but identity.

[Joe Getty]

If I had known this was part of economics when I was in college, I could have easily made it my life. I only took microeconomics, which I hated. I mean, it had. It's obviously got its value, supply, demand, et cetera. But if I'd have known all this other stuff that I find so fascinating about economics was part of it, I would have. Man, I would have eaten that up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, what would you call it? Psychoeconomics? I don't know socioeconomics or something like that. But they gave the example of an academic economist. Not coincidentally, that's who we're talking about. That would be a social category. And that's the way they would see themselves or part of that group, whatever. So they probably own a practical car and wear comfortable shoes. And if they showed up in a Porsche 911 or a pair of $500 loafers, they would all not only feel like they were putting on airs, but they'd probably be mocked and scorned by colleagues. In traditional economics models. It's hard to rationalize why anyone would care so much about what shoes I walk in wearing, right? Or what car I drive. But that, that really affects decisions they go into.

[Joe Getty]

Like when you, when you go to, when you go to buy a pair of shoes or a car, practically anything, certainly anything anybody's going to observe. The, the options are not wide open for most people. They're limited to your identity. It has to fit into that world of your identity, which is interesting. We don't see ourselves that way. I think we, most people like to see themselves as no, I could wear any kind of footwear. It's completely up to me. I'm my own person. But no, it fits into a view you have of yourself where you want other people to have of you or you think you have, whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then they talk about individual gains from both material outcomes and actions that conform to their identities, blah, blah, blah. In labor markets, workers are motivated by wages, of course, but also by how well their job aligns with their identities. They give the example of a corporate job might offer financial stability, but if it conflicts with an individual's identity as an environmentalist, for instance, that's going to lead to dissatisfaction and underperformance. In this vein, trying to train coal miners to be nurses may be futile. And Jack, I love the idea you gave when we were talking about this, if you remember.

[Joe Getty]

I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

You said trying to train farmers because the family farm is disappearing to be coders, have them sit in a cubicle 10 hours a day to code. They would hang themselves.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, and you hear politicians throw that around all the time. Like you can just retrain people that have been a certain sort of person to be a completely different sort of person. And as the point of what you're saying is, it's not just about the money.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there's other research by a couple of guys you've never heard of to provide a granular look into the mechanics of this phenomenon. There's studies based on lab experiments that prime subjects to see different parts of their identities as especially salient, demonstrate that people may opt for lower paying jobs if it means greater congruence or you know, fitting in with their social group. Or might choose consumer goods that signal affiliation to a particular identity despite higher costs and no higher quality. We see that all the time in fashion. Please. So they go into that at some length and it's very, very interesting. We'll post a [e-mail] under Hot Links. But then let's see. They go more deeply into. That diverges from traditional notions of comparative advantage typically applied to countries or firms. I met with several well known psychologists, writes this journalist. Across the country, many assume that heredity largely dictated the identities to which people gravitated. We investigated the academic paths chosen by students in racially and socioeconomically diverse schools. We found that students often align their academic efforts with what they perceive to be their comparative advantages.

[Joe Getty]

Interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

And this is something that we and others have observed through the years and people are extremely uncomfortable talking about. But we all ought to grow up and just say what's true and whether it makes us feel comfortable or not. If you want to actually solve problems, you better reckon with reality. Anyway, a student who sees his strength in social leadership rather than academic achievement might choose to invest more in social endeavors. This decision is based both on where he or she excels and where he perceives the greatest return for his efforts in both self fulfillment and importantly, social recognition. Booty or Booty. Yeah. In other research, who is. I haven't mentioned the name of the person writing this. Roland Fryer, who's an economist and a researcher. Anyway, where were we? In other research, I found that black and Hispanic students with high grade point averages tended to be less popular, which was not true for white students. This was in line with previous work suggesting that high achieving black students were sometimes mocked for, quote, acting white. By incorporating this kind of peer pressure, the framework we've been talking about also illuminates how gender norms can influence field of study choices. Women might avoid STEM fields not because of lack of ability or interest, but due to societal norms dictating what is considered appropriate for their sex. They found a single business school.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, that is really interesting. That may have changed since I was in school. Or maybe it depends on the neighborhood you're living. It's like I live in a college town. So it would make sense that popularity and high school achievement might go together. But it didn't. At my school, the most popular people were absolutely not the people with the highest grade point averages and would have been kind of unimaginable.

[Jack Armstrong]

That it would be interesting. Interesting. And you're as white as they come.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And we're all white.

[Jack Armstrong]

One Moment one. I'm sorry, one more example. And then I want to make a point kind of disputing a little of this, but. But let's see. This guy and his co authors have found that single female business school students, quote, reported lower desired salaries and willingness to travel and work long hours on a real stakes placement questionnaire when they expected their classmates to see their preference. A phenomenon known as acting wife as opposed to acting white. That is interesting. So. And I misunderstood when I read it the first time. So if you ask single female business school students, what's your desired salary? What's your willingness to travel and work long hours, they will answer differently if they expect their peers to see their answers.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. I'm not sure I understand that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. One thing, and it's funny, Tim Sandifer and I, one of the few, like, significant disagreements we've ever had is when we were doing a book club thingy that some of you may remember when we were talking about Sebastian Younger's book Tribe. And I really liked it and thought it was really interesting, thought provoking. And Tim didn't like it at all. He thought it was collectivist claptrap. I am paraphrasing bluntly and skilllessly. I'm sure Tim expressed his opinion much more eloquently. But the thing, and I think I may have said it to Tim, is that what Tim has to remember and what we have to remember is that Tim is like at the outer 1% of iconoclastic individualists, the way he sees the world. And you and I are way out on that scale too, I think. And there are some very lovely people, very nice people who are like way past the midway point and they're like good 25% toward. They find it really rewarding to be part of what other people are doing and go along with the crowd and to conform. They get a feeling of belonging from that that I think most real individualists don't experience in the same way.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so you've got to remember when you're thinking about society on a whole, not everybody sees the world like I do.

[Joe Getty]

Hmm. Yeah. Especially if we're talking economics. Yet, like you said earlier, you just do need to observe or take in what is, whether it makes sense to you or not.

[Jack Armstrong]

And one of the great revolutions. Revelations, not revolutions. Well, there was a revolution. It was a revelation. Revolution is that the Founding Fathers designed the Constitution to be ironclad against any takeover by. By monarchs or dictators or even populists. Not because most humans crave liberty, because most humans don't that was the danger. And when I realized that, I thought, oh, oh yes.

[Joe Getty]

It works both ways though. That whole wanting to be part of the crowd, it depends on your crowd. And that gets to the we were talking about the whole keeping it real thing earlier. If your crowd is it's not cool to really achieve, it's not a good way to keep it real. If, if your crowd is, you know, achieving is the thing to be cool, then keeping it real is fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, there's absolutely something to be said for looking at the crowd around you and assessing whether they are helping your life or hurting it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, the desire for acceptance. So I mean, it's right there in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It's a big one. Belonging.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maslow ought to shut up. I don't care what he thinks.

[Joe Getty]

Shut up, Maslow. Get down off your pyramid.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Let'S be clear.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's happening in this country?

It's Nazism. Republicans are Nazis. You cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people.

[Joe Getty]

Growing up in the 90s, I never thought much about race. Sure you noticed, but never really seemed to matter that much. At least not to me. Being a white straight cisgender man, it's the top of the pile.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm on the top of the pile.

[Joe Getty]

That's me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Am I racist?

[Joe Getty]

I would really appreciate it if you left. I'm trying to learn.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm on this journey.

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[Joe Getty]

That's from Am I Racist? Which I'm going to on Saturday and I look forward to it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, before we talk about that, just real quickly because I'll forget again. I watched the brand new Netflix Apollo 13 documentary last night. It was outstanding. Absolutely great. Compelling. A lot of NASA footage from the archives that hadn't been seen.

[Joe Getty]

I read that it was even more dramatic than the movie, which of course, you know, is scripted in such a way to make it more dramatic, to make it Dramatic, which sounds amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was on the edge of my seat. Judy had a commitment. She got home like with 10 minutes left, and I said, all right, I gotta finish this, I gotta finish this. And during, without giving too much away, of course, it's a historical event. People know what happened, but just the structure of the thing. But during the moments at the very end when it wasn't clear the astronauts were alive, I said to Judy sitting next to me on the couch, I said, I know how this ends and this is killing me. It's just unbelievably beautifully done.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. I'll check that out.

[Jack Armstrong]

My only. It's not a criticism. It's the only way it pales in comparison to the brilliant movie with Tom Hanks, the delicious Kevin Bacon and Gary Sinnies is that the documentary under dramatized the incredible creativity it took to redesign systems to do something completely different that the movie did brilliantly. As the folks back on Earth were trying to figure out, how do we have them build a filter to get all the carbon dioxide out of the capsule? And they literally took a tube from this, a box from that, some cloth from that, and said, all right, plug this in. And they, they conducted these experiments, created this technology out of nothing in the space of like 36 hours, working frantically around the clock. So I would suggest, you know, watch the movie and the documentary. Inspiring story.

[Joe Getty]

And then Tom Hanks dies of aids. Or is that a different movie? Different movie. Another fine film though he and Jenny get together.

[Jack Armstrong]

I will also make this point if you're done with your inanities. And this is kind of a lead in. It was interesting that Mission Control, the virtually everyone involved was a white man.

[Joe Getty]

Which is why I'm against the. I won't recognize the moon landing.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we've. And we as a society have, you know, I think, come a long way in involving the best and brightest, no matter what they look like. On the other hand, it was also undeniable that all of those white fellers were brilliant, hard working, creative, responsible, compassionate, and virtually everything you could want from a human being. So hey, here's an idea. Let's not demonize people because of the color of their skin. We used to agree on that. Which brings us to Matt Walsh's hilarious and uncomfortable new Am I Racist? Which is very enjoyable. It's, I think the number four movie around the country or something like that.

[Joe Getty]

Is it really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Top five? Top five box office.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding. Yet got no reviews?

[Jack Armstrong]

Zero. And that was actually the topic of Matt's recent Twitter thread. Many have Asked how it's possible that our new film Am I Racist? Hasn't been reviewed by a single mainstream critic. Even with a 99% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, you do something similar the.

[Joe Getty]

Other direction, like Bowling from Columbine. That's from left the Michael Moore. Any of the Michael Moore movies. Not only does it get endless reviews, it wins Oscars. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep. Top five box office debut. Beginning in August, we reached out to dozens of mainstream outlets offering an early screener of the film. These outlets included Time, ap, Indiewire, Variety, THR Times, New Yorker, and a bunch more. All the usual suspect. You know what, I'm going to name some of the usual suspects. Oh that's, that's the list. Okay, blah blah blah. We did not a single one responded and said they would review the movie. We did however, verify that. Yeah, follow it up to Virtual Silence. So they bugged him again and said, hey, did you get our package and everything? And the virtual Silence. We did however receive a flurry of unprofessional emails from independent critics who were enraged we'd even asked them to review the film. One of them, the wrote that he wouldn't waste any professional time on a movie opening in over 1500 theaters because I was involved, writes Matt Walsh. Let's see, here's the note. Bwahaha. Absolutely not. Hardest decline. I will not waste a second of my life on Matt Walsh. Let's see. Another critic said, you'd have to strap me to a chair like Malcolm McDowell, let's say clockwork Orange reference to get me to watch this thing. Another wrote, you take me off this list after it was clear that Am I a Racist? Was a hit. Variety attempted to cover for this oversight with a claim that Daily Wire did not screen the movie for critics. We've asked them to cor, but they have not. They still haven't posted a review, but I hope they they will. A few other mainstream outlets have since requested screeners but have yet to publish a review. One major mainstream outlet even acknowledged we had attempted to get them an advanced screener, but said the film had slipped through the cracks. This isn't a mistake. You'd be hard pressed to find another film that opened in 15 more than 1500 theaters that was completely snubbed by mainstream critics. If Am I Racist or terrible? These outlets could have reviewed it and trashed it, but the reality is they're afraid of it. Am I Racist? Been so successful because we specifically because we didn't churn out another safe, predictable Hollywood style film. One last thing Rolling Stone was one of the first outlets to request the screener for the review after the movie was announced back in July. They've yet to post a review, which is a bummer because I was looking forward to theirs most of all. I I've said many times there, there's a huge growing awareness of how the woke critical race theory and radical gender theory and queer theory, the transgender thing, it's all neo Marxism with different guises, different faces, but it's all intent on tearing down Western civilization and putting those people in charge. We are at the end of the beginning, not the beginning of the end. Here is a really well done, controversial, but extremely relevant movie that they're so afraid of they won't even review it to trash it. They pretend it doesn't exist. We've barely begun the fight.

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