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Katie
Now broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center.
Michael
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Katie
Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Happy in the Independence Day, everyone. It's the 4th of July and it's the Ang replay.
Jack Armstrong
Featuring bits and pieces of our podcast, Armstrong and Getty. One More Thing.
Katie
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Jack Armstrong
One foot in the grave. It's One More Thing. Armstrong and Getty.
Katie
One More thing. Now, so I understand you're going to interview me on the topic of my milestone birthday. Just so I can get prepared. Do you have a styl mind? Are you going to be like Scott Pelly, slow talking and making me repeat everything? Going to make me cry like Ellen DeGeneres? Do you have more a Charlie Rose approach in mind?
Jack Armstrong
Katie, Joe and I were working together. Joe and I have basically the same birthday. My birthday is in 10 days and I'm turning the same age. So we are in the same reflective age situation of turning 60. His birthday is today. Joe and I were working together when we turned 30, when we turned 40, when we turned 50, and now when we turn 60. That doesn't seem possible.
Unnamed Guest
That's amazing.
Katie
It really doesn't seem possible.
Jack Armstrong
No.
Katie
Particularly given the hatred of each other that we share.
Jack Armstrong
Well, just from a time standpoint, the one thing you can't, you can't. This is gonna be one of the things I want to ask you about. Okay, well, I'll just ask you instead of giving an answer first. That would be a dumb way to interview.
Katie
Innovative.
Jack Armstrong
Got a couple of questions.
Katie
Okay.
Jack Armstrong
What does 60 feel like compared to what you thought it would feel like when you were 30? Emotionally, physically, whatever?
Katie
Well, that, that question assumes that I remember what I thought when I was 30.
Jack Armstrong
Well, or any, any point when you're younger.
Katie
No, I, I, I see you, I see your point. Yeah, I think fairly similar. I was never, never particularly afraid of aging. I've never Been particular, particularly enthusiastic about the idea either.
Jack Armstrong
Who would be enthusiastic about aging past, like 21? Who would be enthusiastic about aging?
Katie
Yeah. You know what? I think one of the formative aspects of my life is that I've always been a golf freak. And even When I was 35, I played golf with guys who were 70 who were having fun and good players and we'd have a couple of drinks afterward and a hoot. And so I saw. I don't know if you'd call them role models exactly, but I didn't fear that.
Jack Armstrong
You have a thought, Katie, before I jump in?
Unnamed Guest
Oh, no, go ahead, I'm listening.
Jack Armstrong
I'm the exact opposite. I've always assumed. Like when I was in my 20s, I assumed there's no way anybody over the age of 30 was having fun. And. And I felt that way my whole life. I thought there's no way you're having fun in your 40s. 50 year olds aren't having fun. Certainly nobody's gonna have fun in their 60s. And if they're like smiling and laughing like you say, you see people, they just don't remember what fun was. This is as good as it gets for them, but they're not actually having fun. If there's one thing I could tell younger me, well, maybe that's the question I want to ask. If you could tell 30 year old you, 40 year old you, whatever, 25 year old something, what would it be? Now?
Katie
Okay, you know me, I quibble about every question you do. Does this like include.
Jack Armstrong
Do you tell yourself, don't quibble so much, it's a waste of time?
Katie
It could be. So quibble. Some people don't like it. Wisdom or I'll just stick with wisdom for now because I will. The reason I asked that question, and I can picture it so vividly, it's causing giant emotional changes in my brain right now. It was around and. Gladys, don't bother. 1998-2000, 2001, when the talk show had just started because we realized we had no future in music radio. We were doing a talk show between the records and it was stupid. But we'd started at our now home station in Sacramento, Talk 650 KST. And of the 45 rated radio stations in Sacramento, it was 45th when we took over the morning show. And it was taking longer than we had hoped to really grow it. Just because the mathematics of it, Lord knows we had no marketing at that time. I don't know if you've ever been.
Jack Armstrong
On a station or a show, Katie. With no listeners. But I have. You can say to your listeners, tell your friends to tune in. But they got no friends. They aren't listening. There's nobody to tell anybody.
Unnamed Guest
I feel that in my soul.
Katie
Yeah. Oh, yeah. And we had taken a 50% cut in pay to get started in talk radio. And I had three little kids, including a baby. And I was so stressed and so concerned that I was not going to be successful in the one field I had chosen. And you know, I was not. This is not some sort of dumb, humble brag, but I was one of those kids who people would say, he has so much potential. Oh, you could do this or you could do that. And here I was going to be a dead ender who couldn't support his family. Miserable amounts of stress. I dealt with it the best I could. So, I mean, if I could just whisper in my young ear, it's going to work out. Okay. That. Oh, my God, yeah, I'm going to blubber. That would have been enormously helpful, but wisdom wise.
Jack Armstrong
Stay out of the sun.
Katie
Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, the sunscreen thing, take that seriously. Dip. Show videos of. I'd show videos to myself. Look at this. And young me would say, what is that device you're holding? I'd say, it's a cell phone. Don't worry about it. Anyway, watch this video of a dermatologist cut chunk out of you. Oh, God. I'd say, what's, what's your point? Why are you doing this? I'd say, be careful with the sun. Anyway, it would probably be, you know, it probably be parenting advice. You know, you never get. You'll never regret being patient. If you got to bring the hammer down, you can bring it down in an hour. Take a while, calm down and, and think about what's the smart thing to do. Probably because I was very young parent by modern standards.
Jack Armstrong
If you're an older parent like me, your T is so low, you can't really get worked up about anything.
Katie
Right. Don't let me take off my support hose and hit you with them, son. And I'm, you know, make me.
Jack Armstrong
I know if they decided to run off, I couldn't catch them. So.
Katie
Yeah, you come back here if you'd like.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. The old, the whole perspective on time thing, the way it changes when you get older, it's just impossible. There's no point in trying to explain it to somebody who's younger. Nobody could have. I'm sure somebody tried to explain it to me. I was like, whatever, old man.
Katie
Well, and you can believe it, but you can't relate to it. The idea that no five years goes.
Jack Armstrong
By in the blink of an eye.
Unnamed Guest
You have to live that.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, I know. My, my kids in this, they've got a particular reason to feel like this because I was an older parent, so when I was a kid was a really long time. You know, if I, if you have kids in your 20s like you, you're only talking about a 20 year gap in now and when you were a kid, for me it's, you know, nearly a 40 year gap, whatever it is.
Katie
Yes.
Jack Armstrong
So, so they can, they really have good ammunition for what you know about what high school is like is completely irrelevant to me. But it's not. I look around their high school, I see the stuff. It's the same thing really. Just, you know, clothes are actually exactly the same. They're wearing the same clothes, same hairstyles as when I was in high school. But so much of it is the same. But you can't convince young people that you have like really any understanding of their, what they're going through.
Katie
And between most of my child raising in yours was the giant, you know, it's like the ADB dividing line of smartphones.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Katie
And how that's changed everything.
Jack Armstrong
But the, you know, but the wanting to have a girlfriend and being nervous about asking them just all that sort.
Katie
Of stuff is just, you know, it.
Jack Armstrong
Doesn'T seem any different. But I just, I remember hearing years ago, we did a big show and we turned 40, which is freaking 20 years ago. I can't believe that. But anyway, we did a big show when we turned 40 and I remember hearing somebody say something about, I think it was ancient wisdom, but just people, you can tell people, you know, how this is going to turn out or what your experience has shown, they're still going to do it their way and find out for themselves. It's just, it just seemed, and that seems to be way more true than not true. There's some exceptions, but it's way more true than not true.
Katie
Yeah, there's very little of the wisdom and conventional wisdom about conventional thinking about aging and what you're going to go through that has not been true. But you do have to, you know, confront it on your own and deal with it on your own. And, and it's, it's, it's fine.
Unnamed Guest
You know, it's just to backtrack for one second. Joe, by standards, did you have older or younger parents.
Katie
At the time? Very typical. My mom was 24, so 23 or 24 when she had my sister, then me a year later and then in her early 30s when she had her last kid, my little brother.
Jack Armstrong
That was practically everybody back in the day.
Unnamed Guest
So youngish. Because I. I was thinking about your outlook on life and not really being worried about aging. And I was thinking my parents are older, her standards about same with Jack and his kids, almost 40 years. And I think that kind of made it so I don't. I'm not really worried about aging because I'm seeing them in their older years and they're having a blast and everything's good. You know, maybe I was wondering if that contributed. But you had young parents.
Jack Armstrong
I would have to. It'd be like similar to your story about being around golfers. But if you're around your parents and you see them in 60s or 70s and doing stuff right after thing, I would think, yeah. And.
Katie
Oh, go. I was just gonna say in a weird way when I was having those excruciating back problems, and I say this with great sympathy to people have ongoing back problems. Mine are much, much better through a combination of never ending physical therapy and workouts and stretching, that sort of thing. I was so miserable the last six months of being like 58, in the first six months of being 59. And I feel so much better now. I feel like I've aged five years. So the idea that the calendar says otherwise, I just, it's internally. I know that's correct, but I feel really good. But you're doing my recent standards.
Jack Armstrong
But you're doing that thing where they drain the blood out of yum. Homeless people and they put it in.
Katie
You're right, not all homeless.
Jack Armstrong
Some of them have volunteers, but most of them are homeless because they need the money.
Katie
Draining the blood of the young and injecting it into my greedy veins.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I'm glad that's working for you.
Katie
If I could get that going, man, I would.
Jack Armstrong
You have a question, Michael?
Unnamed Contributor
No, I wasn't about this though. I was just thinking about draining the.
Jack Armstrong
Blood of the homeless. No, nothing about this question about that.
Unnamed Contributor
I was just thinking about what Joe said, you know, back you guys started in 2000 and that's when I started and I was going to tell Katie that to show. Show you how low they thought of the radio station. They used to tell me that wouldn't you like to come work on some other show or whatever. And I refused to do it because I believed in this show, I really did. And it drove them nuts. They hated me for that.
Katie
God bless you for that. Not us. Them.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, the bosses were like, you know, you're pretty good talented, which Michael is obviously, you know, you should come work over here at a real radio station.
Unnamed Guest
Michael, good call on not leaving.
Unnamed Contributor
He was a great call.
Katie
Yeah. Just before we started 1998, they had a serious meeting about just shutting it down and taking the off the air to save the electricity and so they wouldn't have to bother employee employing nice people who are trying hard but weren't getting anywhere. It was like, this is not worth the trouble. Why don't we just shut that radio station off? And it took several years, but what was it, four or five years later, we were number one in the market and have been a good bit of the time ever since. That is awesome. Wouldn't want to do it again, sweetheart. The Armstrong and Getty Show. Get more Jack, more Joe podcasts and our hot links at armstrong and getty.com the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Jack Armstrong
I'm a regular at the gym now for like the last six months since I moved because I got a gym membership with this place I live. And I hadn't been a regular in a gym for not a regular for like 30 years. So it'd been a long time. Pre cell phone era. Now they got signs everywhere. You know, don't sit there staring at your phone on the equipment. Don't blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Because I see that happened all the time.
Katie
People.
Jack Armstrong
People do a set, then they start scrolling and they don't realize 10 minutes has gone by before they get back to their second set. Yeah, you're not working out hard enough. If you got time to do that, you're not serious. Get the hell out the way. I actually texted a buddy of mine who's like super hardcore into working out all the time. My main complaint I'm going to get to in a second, but he hates stacks. Too much weight on there and can't actually lift it. Guy. I don't know why that bothers him. That is kind of funny. There's a super ripped guy at the gym, I was noticing the other day, and he does about the lightest weights of anybody in there. But his form is perfect. And I thought all these other muscle heads should look at him. They're trying because they got to show how much they're doing, but they're like swinging their body around, which is not, you know, isolating the muscle you're trying to wear. But this guy who uses a lightweight, he is so perfect with this technique and he's really ripped so I think that's the key. But younger guys like to show how much they can lift. But here's. Here's my least favorite guy that I wanted to bring up this topic for the slams, the weights down guy, to show how freaking intense you are, I guess, all the time.
Katie
Oh, no. They're lifetime ban. I know.
Jack Armstrong
In this gym I go to, it's a private gym, and they've got signs up that say, do not slam the weights. They didn't have those signs until, like a week ago. And he's new. I think those signs are aimed purely at him. It has not worked at all because I've seen. I saw him in the gym again last night, and I don't think anybody's got the guts to go up to him and say, hey, could you not slam those weights down? Because he looks like he would attack you and punch you in the face if you said anything to him. He's just so intense. Yeah. And he stomps around and he lifts everyone. Then he drops him on the floor. Bang, bang, clang. And everybody jerks. Like, you know, because you get startled when you hear a loud noise like that. It's just so uncomfortable being around him. But I'm intense. You are intense. I'm intense.
Unnamed Guest
You know, you get kicked out of. You'll get kicked out of Planet Fitness for that.
Jack Armstrong
Really good for you. You're so freaking intense, you weirdo. Quit slamming the weights around. Jeez. We get it. You care about being tough guy or something.
Unnamed Guest
You lift a lot. That neat.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, neat. Exactly. Yippee. But he just does it every time. And it's. It's more just like. I don't like big loud noises.
Katie
Right? Yes. Sudden loud noises. Yeah, they're kind of annoying.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Unnamed Contributor
There's always that guy that makes extra loud noises just so everybody looks over at him.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. It's a combination of his grunting and his dropping noise. Boom. All right, all right, all right. We get it. Can you go to some he man women haters club gym, where you all strut around about how cool and testosterone laden you are, and I don't know what you do. Count your chest hairs or do something, but go to a different gym.
Katie
No, he's totally shaved, but anyway.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, he is. Actually.
Katie
Call it a holes. Yeah, Just, you know, and have the. The O of the hole be a plate on a barbell. A holes. The big guy lifting. It'll form.
Jack Armstrong
That's awesome. Have a gym called a Holes and you, like, encourage that sort of thing. Yeah. And everybody wears the tank top with the big loop so you see their entire body. They all have. That's the uniform that comes at the A hole gym.
Katie
Right. And they're all gonna hit on the first woman who walks in one. Never will because you know it's right there on the sign.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, lots of mirrors, lots of posing in the mirrors.
Katie
And if somebody doesn't drop the weights, the other guys will come over. Hey, what the hell's the matter with you, man?
Jack Armstrong
You gotta drop those weights. You don't seem. Are you not in 10?
Katie
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Katie
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Jack Armstrong
Yesterday we got on the topic of the fact that I take my coat off like a woman. As my son said, you take your coat off like a girl.
Unnamed Guest
Confirmed.
Jack Armstrong
I checked with a friend who's who's known me for 25 years who said yeah, you do take your coat off like a girl. I thought really? Okay, that's interesting. Then I yesterday took off my coat during the show for Katie. She said, you absolutely take your coat. It's the way I roll my shoulders, apparently. So we made a video of it and put it up for a vote. And we posted on Twitter and it's running 60. About 2/3. Yes, I lack authority in otherwise. In other words, I take my coat off like a girl. Or no, about a third. So most people seem to agree. And a lot of comments on the video. For instance, Dave, who weighed in, he may take his coat off like a lady, but he takes his pantyhose off like a man. Okay, thank you for that. It's the way he puffs out his boobs. That's what my son said. It's like you're trying to push out your boobs, but you don't have any.
Unnamed Guest
Okay.
Jack Armstrong
You're like a ponce hairdresser. This person said. Karen Han. Ready? Karen Hanratty, a fabulous human being and longtime friend of the Armstrong and Getty show, said, Michelangelo is a national treasure. That's for Michelangelo's participation in the video in which he takes his jacket off like a man compared to my taking it off like a girl.
Unnamed Contributor
That's right.
Jack Armstrong
I went into this wanting to back you, Jack, but yeah, you do.
Unnamed Guest
Big popular vote that your jacket's too small.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, well, it wasn't when I bought it.
Katie
Did you see Jamie's comment? Our. Our beloved former news woman, Jamie, coffee.
Jack Armstrong
I did not.
Katie
She said, not sure it's like a girl, but definitely more fluid and more flair than Michelangelo's caveman esque disrobing of his coat.
Jack Armstrong
So.
Katie
And you, you boo. Boo. She writes. That's a very Jamie thing to say. Yeah. So, Michael, coming in for a little criticism.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I don't know why I roll my shoulders like that. It's really made me think a lot about a lot of things.
Unnamed Guest
Giving you a job.
Katie
I have been a flaming heterosexual since early in my life. I just knew it's girls for me from a very early, you know, point in my life. And I have observed girlishness and femininity and in many, many different pursuits. I've never thought about there being a feminine way to take off one's coat.
Jack Armstrong
No. Until people started posting gifts of women taking off their coats. And that's the way I take my coat off. Jack is an effeminate man who seeks recognition and approval from others, especially the opposite sex, for self esteem fulfillment.
Katie
Okay, well, good psychoanalysis. That's no charge either.
Jack Armstrong
It's the shoulder roll. Everybody says, so, I'll work on it.
Unnamed Guest
I guess more of a shimmy.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know what to do about that. Okay, so tell us your story, Katie or Joe has a prelude to.
Unnamed Guest
Yes, Joe had something.
Katie
Well, I was just gonna say we. I'm not even sure this person's with us anymore. Our first agent, we were not thrilled with the job he did. And indeed we asked him to take his leave in favor of Eric, the world's greatest agent. On the other hand, the one thing that he did that I really appreciated, he'd say, guys, call me. It's urgent. It's a good thing.
Unnamed Guest
Yeah. Yes.
Katie
So he would always make it clear. Hey, I gotta see you. Don't worry, everything's cool. Because he knew that anybody who gets that summons is like, holy crap. Oh.
Jack Armstrong
So, bosses, I've always wondered this. When you say, I'd like to see in my office at one o', clock, do you get a kick out of people being scared to death? Or does it, or does it not occur to you that unless you say it's a good thing, everybody's worried they're about to be fired or something bad. Every time. Not sometimes, not occasionally. Every time, bosses, you say, I need to see in my office, you're scared to death. You're losing your job. So if it's not that, and, and, and unless you get a kick out of them being freaked out, you should say, as our agent used to say, it's a good thing.
Unnamed Guest
Yeah, that's.
Katie
It's no big deal. We just got to deal with something, you know? Yeah. Of course, if they weren't going to sack you and ruin your life and cast you out into the poverty, they wouldn't tell you that, right?
Jack Armstrong
True.
Unnamed Contributor
All right, of course, real quick here. But if you call your agent, he says it's a good thing. And he says, guess what, guys, I got a new car.
Jack Armstrong
Doesn't help you.
Katie
I'm watching the video. I haven't watched the whole video yet. I had a crazy busy day.
Jack Armstrong
Taking his.
Katie
That's not cavemanish. That's a man taking off his coat. Michael, I apologize for even report repeating that that idiotic criticism is going to take off his coat. It's, it's. It's ponce. It's hard to describe why, but it's.
Jack Armstrong
I know. I wonder how I picked that up.
Katie
Weirdly deliberate.
Jack Armstrong
That's exactly. That's funny. That is really weird. Let me read the quote from. And this is somebody who hadn't seen me take a jacket off in 25 years. And I asked them. I mean, it's just weird that they'd have any memory whatsoever. If somebody from who I haven't seen take a jacket off in 25 years texted me and said, do I take my jacket off in an effeminate way? I would say, what the hell are you talking about? What they said, yeah, you're very particular and intentional when removing your jacket. Very feminine. They use the very word that you used.
Katie
That's so strange. I know it is. This is a topic I have never spent a single second thinking about in my many decades on this planet.
Jack Armstrong
But you're in agreement with two thirds of people. Okay, whatever.
Katie
You know, I've got to admit, I was tasked with having. Because I bolted after the show yesterday, but I was tasked with having Judy videotape me taking my coat off. But she. She was insanely busy yesterday and we never got it done. And now I'm a really curious about my coat removal style. Although nobody's ever mentioned it to me, so it's probably more normal. But I'm also totally aware now I'll be hyper aware. I won't be able to do it naturally.
Jack Armstrong
I wonder if I've ever c. Blocked myself, if you'll pardon the expression. Having. Having met a woman who's kind of interested in me. And then I take my coat off and it's a deal breaker. It's like, no way I could be with that guy.
Katie
And maybe she's not even conscious of why I don't. She's like, I'm not a lesbian.
Unnamed Contributor
There's probably a dozen beautiful women out there, Jack, that this has happened.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. It's like, I can't be with a guy who takes off his jacket like me. They thought to themselves, wow.
Katie
Anyway, back to Katie.
Unnamed Guest
This is. This is just a silly story that I had actually forgotten about until this conversation came up. One of my top favorite bosses of all time, and I think you know him. Paul Hausley.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, absolutely Paul.
Katie
What a good dude. Love him.
Unnamed Guest
So I get off the air in San Francisco and he comes into the. Into the studio and he goes, hey, Katie, I need to talk to you in my office for a second. And he is stone serious. And I'm thinking, oh, boy, what did I say? What did I do? Whatever. So I go into his office and he sits me down and he goes, so what is going on with your car?
Jack Armstrong
What?
Unnamed Guest
Yeah, exactly my reaction. I'm like, what? What are you talking about?
Jack Armstrong
You get out of your car like a dude and it's Just weird. Yes.
Katie
It's off footing.
Unnamed Guest
Yeah, that was it. And he goes, you're the pictures on your car. And I'm like, the pictures on my car? The only thing I have on my car is a Blink 182 sticker on my window. And he goes, okay, let's, let's, let's go to the garage. So.
Katie
And the license plate. Yeah.
Unnamed Guest
So we walk down to the garage and we go to the back of my car, which is parked right next to the elevator. And at this time, the show. So this is like 10:30 in the morning. Okay. All over the back of my car, below the, the windshield or below the windshield so I couldn't see it, are triple X porn photos ripped out of a magazine. Oh, it went all the way up to just about as triple X as you can get. And I world, as they say, yes, more mortified. I'm. I looked at my. Like Paul, I have no keep in mind. My drive to San Francisco was about 35 minutes. So I drove from home over the bridge into San Francisco with this on the back of my car.
Katie
Oh, okay.
Unnamed Guest
So I, I go into my text messages because I hadn't checked them. People used to text message me at ungodly hours. And I see a text from one of my friends that says, hope you have a good work morning. And I knew I from this, the second I saw, I went, it was him. He came up, he walked to my house and he taped these things to the back of my car. So Paul and I had a little bit of a laugh about it. We go back up into his office and Paul goes, hey, let's call your friend. I'm like, okay. So I call him, I call him and I start, you know, fake crying. I'm like, ryan, dude, my boss, really, My boss would like to talk to you.
Jack Armstrong
Oh my God.
Katie
So this is, this is the appropriate vengeance.
Jack Armstrong
This is making me uncomfortable.
Katie
This is justice.
Unnamed Guest
So Paul has him on speakerphone and he goes, hi, Ryan, this is, this is Katie's program director here in San Francisco and I just wanted to discuss the images that you put on the back of her car. We actually have security from the building here as well.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, boy.
Unnamed Guest
And you can hear Ryan going, no, no. And then Paul start busted up laughing.
Katie
But anyway, that, that's pretty good.
Unnamed Guest
The reason this story came up is because we were talking about the weirdest reasons we've ever been called into our boss's office. And my brain went, oh my God, that happened.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that is, that is a good way to get Back at somebody, though. I would not have thought of that. That's good.
Unnamed Guest
God, it was mortifying.
Katie
Anyway, if you are doing this job and you get called into the boss's office and you're not fast forwarding through everything you said in your head, you're not doing the job. Right.
Unnamed Guest
Right.
Jack Armstrong
It's a.
Unnamed Guest
It was a short walk to Paul's office, but I'm going. Okay. What did I. I did this news story, a comment. I'm like, I had no idea at all.
Jack Armstrong
Go ahead, Joe.
Katie
I was just gonna say we've, like, had serious stressful issues with people completely freaked out and pissed off. Some of them performatively about things we've said. And I'd say two of the three I never saw coming.
Jack Armstrong
No, I was gonna say every time I've gotten in trouble for saying something, it's like something I didn't even remember. I say edgy things. Sometimes I think, oh, boy, that might get me in trouble. That's not the one. It's the thing I didn't even think of for some reason that usually ends up with the TV cameras outside the radio station.
Katie
And then there is. I need to come up with a name for it. It's like my white whale. It's the one thing I said once that I thought, that's it. I've ended my career. I shouldn't have said that. Whoops. And I was. I was. I was virtually certain it would be devastating and nothing ever came of it. And you can ply me with booze. You can put me on the rack.
Jack Armstrong
Give him a.
Katie
You can. Or the other thing. The other thing might get me. I don't know. Try it.
Unnamed Contributor
I gotta go to church.
Katie
I need to get to go to church and have my ears washed out. And I will never admit it. I will never repeat it. It will not be repeated. God.
Jack Armstrong
One time we angered the Asians and every TV station sent their Asian girl reporter to the radio station to.
Katie
That was the funny part of it. And we've seen that sort of thing. If you say something insensitive about, like, affirmative action for black people or something like that, all of a sudden you find out every. Every station in town happens to have a black reporter too. Wow. And they're reporting on this story. It's hilarious. Once you become it, it's. It's like a hundred percent Italian Americans are angered at the cancellation of the parade. We go to Luigi Perconi for a report.
Jack Armstrong
Come on.
Katie
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What'S your story? Michael?
Unnamed Contributor
My wife has looked in the closet and says I need to throw away.
Jack Armstrong
All my old clothes basically because of fashion or size.
Unnamed Contributor
I don't wear them and it's just taking up space. But yeah, do I guess the question I have is for example, we have some old towels. She wants to change out the towels but I've told her hey, just wash them. We can give them away to Goodwill or something like that. She wants me to throw them away. And how often do you change out towels, for example? I mean do you guys change about every six? Yeah. I mean do you change them out every six months?
Katie
No, when we're ashamed of them them, that's when you you get rid of them.
Jack Armstrong
But there's nothing wrong when you're embarrassed.
Katie
For people to look at them.
Jack Armstrong
I I realize my lifestyle is not like most people's But I don't know that I ever have in my life other than like they just get lost or something.
Unnamed Contributor
But yeah, I'm like you, Jack. I just keep the same towels and keep re washing them.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never, I've never.
Katie
30 years.
Jack Armstrong
I've never kept the towel long enough to wear it out. I don't think can it.
Katie
How do you lose them like a bath towel? What happens to them?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. I don't have the same towels. I don't. Well, I don't have the same towels I had when I was 25, but I never actually, that's what I mean, that's what I'm wondering too. I've never actively gotten rid of them. You know what I do a lot, and this is not good is I'm. I've moved a lot in my life. I'm bad at unpacking. I'm doing this right now at my house. I haven't unpacked since my last move. Like, I bought some new. A new screwdriver last night at the store because I don't know where my screwdriver is from the move. So I probably do that. I got boxes of old towels. I've never opened the boxes, so I had to get new towels. That's probably what I do. But no, I have never thought. Does your wife do this because she wants a different look, like a different color? Or is it because she thinks they're worn out?
Unnamed Contributor
She thinks they're worn out.
Katie
Well, then get new towels.
Unnamed Contributor
Yeah, but I'm trying to save money and.
Jack Armstrong
So what's a worn out tile? What is a worn out towel?
Katie
It looks kind of thread bare and just blah. Doesn't look nice anymore.
Unnamed Guest
It's unraveling.
Jack Armstrong
Okay.
Unnamed Guest
I don't.
Unnamed Contributor
I just figure if it washes my body and I'm happy with it, I wash them and that's it.
Jack Armstrong
You wash yourself with your towel?
Unnamed Contributor
Well, you know, you dry yourself with a towel, but there you go. As far as saving money, though, I just, I just, I don't want her to keep buying new stuff.
Jack Armstrong
Well, this sounds like a thing between you and your wife, but.
Katie
Wow. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I'm not weighing in. No, I have opinions, but I just doesn't seem like a good idea to weigh in. Although I buy high quality towels so they would last practically forever. I'm. I'm one of the few things I've always been willing to splurge on. I love the feel of a good high quality towel. Huh. Yeah.
Unnamed Contributor
She wants me to throw them away, not give them away. She says, you can't give those to Goodwill. And I said, why not? They're perfectly fine. And she says, no, no, we've been using them. And I say, well, just wash them.
Katie
You know, I. I would say bring them to said charity or a charity of your choice, and if they want them, they'll take them. If they don't, they will heave them.
Jack Armstrong
Go ahead, Katie. I've got comments, but, no, I'm just.
Unnamed Guest
I mean, how bad of shape are they in, Michael?
Jack Armstrong
Can you read the newspaper through them?
Unnamed Contributor
No, no, no. They're in good shape.
Katie
So.
Jack Armstrong
And I. I do not want to weigh in this on this at all. I'm only asking.
Katie
The lady wants new towels. All right, Katie. I'm only asking. Lady or towels.
Jack Armstrong
I'm only asking for information purposes. So she doesn't want to give them away because she doesn't think it's cool to give somebody a used towel.
Unnamed Contributor
Correct.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, well, okay. By definition, I mean, Goodwill stuff tends to go to people that are. Are pretty down and out usually. And I think they'd rather have a used towel than no towel.
Unnamed Guest
But you can always donate them. I was sorry to, like, the SPCA or something for the animals.
Jack Armstrong
Dogs don't use towels. I've watched dogs over and over. They just shake.
Katie
I wish they would. Boy, does Baxter like. If we walk him in the rain, boy, does he like to get toweled off. So it's a win. Win. He's not resistant to it because it feels really.
Jack Armstrong
It's a race between getting the towel on the dog and them shaking. Even if you're standing in the doorway or something like that, and they shake it. You got hair and splatter everywhere.
Katie
Oh, yeah. Pro tip towels in the garage. You got to be prepped. You got to be ready. Where were we? Oh, yeah. Let the free market function. Mrs. Michelangelo. If somebody wants to buy the towels, let them. That is a coming together of a need and a fulfillment of that need.
Jack Armstrong
Of course, I'm a guy who buys used shoes off of ebay and stuff like that, so, I mean, I think that shoe is way grosser than a towel towel. You can wash a towel.
Unnamed Guest
Yeah. Whenever my parents go through a towel or whatever, my dad cuts it in half and uses them for the gym.
Jack Armstrong
That's a good idea. Or use it just for, like, cleaning my car, washing my car, drinking. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, that is. I've done that with towels before. That's true. I have done that. They move from drying my body to the drying my motorcycle. Yeah, sure.
Katie
Yeah. To the garage.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Katie
There you go. Win, win. Michael out to the garage.
Jack Armstrong
Huh? Huh?
Unnamed Contributor
Hey, well, thanks, guys. So I'm not throwing them away. That's. That's the bottom line. I'm not gonna throw these.
Jack Armstrong
You're willing to die on that hill?
Unnamed Contributor
Yes. Yes, I am.
Unnamed Guest
Get a couple more years out of them, Michael.
Katie
Tonight on thc, Towel Hoarders tlc. Now, as far THC is pot. That's right. Never mind. Well, take two.
Jack Armstrong
TLC is fine. We don't want this to move to a Judge Judy situation where you got Michael and his wife yelling at each other. She wants to throw away the towels. They're disgusting.
Katie
She says Armstrong and Getty.
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand: The A&G Replay Friday Hour One
Release Date: July 4, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts
In this engaging episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, along with their co-host Katie, delve into a variety of relatable and humorous topics. From reflections on aging and personal anecdotes in the radio industry to light-hearted discussions about gym etiquette and domestic life, the trio offers listeners a blend of insightful conversation and witty banter. This summary captures the key discussions, notable quotes, and the overall flow of the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't tuned in.
The episode kicks off with a heartfelt conversation about reaching milestone ages, specifically turning 60. Jack Armstrong initiates the discussion by pondering how aging feels compared to younger years.
Katie responds by sharing her lifelong passion for golf and how playing with older, vibrant individuals shaped her positive outlook on aging.
Jack contrasts this with his own earlier misconceptions about getting older, admitting that he once believed older generations had lost their sense of fun.
The conversation evolves into advice they would offer their younger selves, with Katie emphasizing the importance of perseverance in the face of early career struggles.
Katie shares intriguing stories from her early days in the radio industry, highlighting the challenges and eventual success of her show.
She recounts how despite being ranked 45th among radio stations in Sacramento initially, persistent effort and dedication led to their show becoming number one in the market.
An unnamed guest, possibly Michael, shares a memorable incident involving a prank by a coworker, showcasing the camaraderie and light-hearted moments in their workplace.
The hosts transition into a lively discussion about gym behaviors, particularly focusing on individuals who disrupt the workout environment by slamming weights.
Katie humorously suggests the creation of a fictional gym named "Holes" to lampoon such behavior.
The conversation highlights the clash between different workout styles and the importance of maintaining a respectful atmosphere in communal spaces.
A significant portion of the episode focuses on domestic life, particularly an amusing debate about towels between an unnamed contributor (likely Michael) and his wife.
Katie offers practical advice, suggesting donation as a middle ground.
The discussion evolves into humorous exchanges about alternative towel uses, such as drying cars or motorcycles, highlighting everyday marital negotiations with a comedic twist.
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in playful teasing and self-deprecating humor. A notable segment involves Jack Armstrong addressing feedback about his manner of removing his coat, leading to a light-hearted analysis of perceived femininity.
Jack Armstrong [20:02]: "I take my coat off like a girl. It's the way I roll my shoulders."
Katie [22:24]: "Jack is an effeminate man who seeks recognition and approval from others, especially the opposite sex, for self-esteem fulfillment."
This segment underscores the show's trademark blend of humor and personal insight, fostering a sense of camaraderie among the hosts and listeners.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts briefly touch upon past controversies and interactions with listeners, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of live radio. They also promote their ongoing projects and encourage audience engagement.
The episode concludes with a mix of final thoughts, promotions, and a hint at future topics, leaving listeners eagerly anticipating the next installment.
Jack Armstrong [02:35]: "What does 60 feel like compared to what you thought it would feel like when you were 30?"
Katie [03:20]: "I've never been particularly afraid of aging. Seeing guys in their 70s having fun and being good players showed me that aging doesn't have to mean slowing down."
Jack Armstrong [03:53]: "I thought there's no way anybody over the age of 30 was having fun. They just don't remember what fun was."
Katie [13:00]: "It took several years, but four or five years later, we were number one and have stayed that way for a good bit of the time."
Unnamed Contributor [34:16]: "My wife wants me to throw away old towels, but I just keep re-washing them. She says they're worn out."
Jack Armstrong [20:02]: "I take my coat off like a girl. It's the way I roll my shoulders."
Katie [22:24]: "Jack is an effeminate man who seeks recognition and approval from others, especially the opposite sex, for self-esteem fulfillment."
The A&G Replay Friday Hour One offers a delightful blend of introspection, humor, and relatable storytelling. Jack, Joe, and Katie navigate through personal milestones, workplace anecdotes, and everyday domestic challenges with ease and wit. This episode serves as a testament to the enduring friendship and dynamic chemistry of the hosts, providing listeners with both entertainment and meaningful conversations.
For more episodes, visit armstrongandgetty.com or find them on your preferred podcast platform.