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Joe Getty
When it comes to security, they're willing to put people on the ground.
Jack Armstrong
We're willing to help them with things, especially probably if you talk about by air because there's. Nobody has the kind of stuff we have.
Joe Getty
So, yeah, that was Trump yesterday making it clear. No US Boots on the ground, but we would help with our air force. But, you know, obviously if we were attacking fences or something. Well, that's a good question, Michael.
Jack Armstrong
Trump's fractured syntax. It's syntax. It's always a little challenging to figure out what he actually means.
Joe Getty
Sometimes he does that on purpose, or all politicians do that on purpose to leave things vague. But. And then, and then sometimes you fill in the blanks the way you want them filled in. But they didn't actually commit to that. Everybody does that in politics. But John Bolton said the other day, you know, we, if, if you got French and British troops on the ground and they start getting hammered by Russia, we're in it. I mean, even if we don't put u. S. Boots on the ground, we've got our air force coming to their defense, obviously. And so. And everything that goes from there. So a couple different things, I suppose we'll get into the longer conversation about this. Our current thinking. Well, my current thinking. I think our current thinking starting With, I don't know, yesterday or a couple of days ago. Has anybody asked Putin if he has any interest in this? I feel like this is like an entirely one sided conversation.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, they, the Kremlin and Putin and Lavrov have given every signal that, no, I'm not meeting with Zelensky. Absolutely not.
Joe Getty
Well, here's a little more on that. Here's a report from cnn.
Jack Armstrong
Yesterday the Russian foreign minister came out and he said, look, the Russians are not against any sort of format per se, whether it's bilateral or trilateral. But they also say that any sort of meeting would have to be well prepared and takes time to prepare. So so far, the Russians have not confirmed whether or not Vladimir Putin is even up for, for a meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky and whether he has confirmed that, that such a meeting will actually take place.
Joe Getty
Trump does what a lot of salespeople do, the presumptive close thing where you just, you state something as if it's already been agreed upon and then hope that momentum or your embarrassments at saying, wait a second, I don't remember agreeing to that or something will, will carry it forward. But. Right, it's not going to work in this case. Another quick report from cnn.
News Reporter
Putin can't go just anywhere. There is a warrant out for his arrest by the international courts. That was from 2003 because of the Ukrainian war. So that's why he has ruled out almost all European countries. But there have been a number of countries that have been floated that it would include Switzerland, Hungary. But right now it doesn't appear as though Putin has firmly set a time which is obviously going to impact where exactly this is. I have been told that most of the planning on the trilateral has been put on hold. So they figure out that first meeting.
Joe Getty
Wow. The Wall Street Journal is writing today that they think it's very unlikely that there is a Putin Zelinsky meeting with or without Trump ever.
Jack Armstrong
Right. I would agree.
Joe Getty
I'm starting to think this is gonna, nothing is gonna come out of all of this. And then we're gonna be back.
Jack Armstrong
Go ahead.
Joe Getty
Then we're going to be back to. Is Europe willing to go to war against Russia with Ukraine or not?
Jack Armstrong
So I don't remember if it was Prague or Romania because people have been throwing it around. But you want to hear how calculating and cloaked but mean Putin and the Kremlin are. They threw out a suggestion for, well, you know, if we did meet, how about this location? And it was, and I can't remember if it was Prague or Romania or whatever. But the very location where Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear arms in return for the Brits and us, the United States, assuring their defense and their.
Joe Getty
Sovereignty, that's where Budapest comes from. So it's the famous Budapest. Right, the famous Budapest Agreement from 1994, which is horrifying in retrospect, where the world basically said, you bring, give up your nuclear weapons, Ukraine, we got your back.
Jack Armstrong
Well, you're signing paper right here.
Joe Getty
We'll sign the Budapest agreement, which obviously hasn't helped them much, as they've been invaded multiple times and now currently are at war with Russia. And nobody is really, really stepped up to help them.
Jack Armstrong
So why would they agree? Putin says, hey, why don't we go back to Budapest to sign another agreement with the West?
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
You think that was an accident?
Joe Getty
Wow, okay, I see. I see what you're saying here. So he's saying to Ukraine, no agreement they make for you means anything thing. Yeah, and that's a reasonable point. I mean, it's not.
Jack Armstrong
It's not.
Joe Getty
Not a reasonable point.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And he's practically saying, and I'm gonna attack you anyway. I attacked you over that. After that agreement, I'll attack you over the next one. After the next one, you want to sign three more, that's fine. Can I give you a hint what I'm gonna do?
Joe Getty
So are you up on this story of this. All of the. The whole last two weeks originates from a miscommunication or a mistranslation. Are you up on that story? It doesn't. It has. I've only heard it reported. So the, The, The London Telegraph, they talk about it regularly. And the London Telegraph done tremendous reporting on this whole war at the very beginning. When. When. At the very beginning, two weeks ago, when Witkoff went over and met in Russia with Lavrov, or did he meet with Putin directly? It doesn't make any difference. He either misheard, miswrote down, got mistranslated that Putin had agreed to security forces being in Ukraine.
Jack Armstrong
European forces.
Joe Getty
European forces, yeah. And he hadn't. And it was a miss. It was a mistake. But all of this. And, and so Witkoff came back and told Trump, yeah, Putin has agreed. He's okay with some, you know, security forces on the ground as part of the deal. And everything has emanated from that belief. That was a mistake from the very beginning. Have you heard that anywhere other than Telegraph has talked about it? And then I heard it one other place over the weekend.
Jack Armstrong
That is bizarre and troubling and rings 100% True, I think, because I remember hearing that repeatedly and thinking, wait, no, he didn't. Putin wouldn't agree to that.
Joe Getty
And sure enough, he hasn't. Well, and it explains how Trump got so far out over his skis of, you know, let's meet, let's blah, blah, blah, because he thought Putin had already agreed to. I mean, if he's gonna agree to troops on the ground, then obviously he's on board with some peace here.
Jack Armstrong
And remember, Putin's the master manipulator. So I can actually. Another possibility contradicts myself, but another possibility was he might have said to Witkoff, you know what, There are circumstances where I could see that, yeah, it's certainly something we could talk about just to delay, just to obfuscate, just to confuse, just to cloud the waters.
Joe Getty
And Putin had In the last 24 hours, one of the biggest attacks on Ukraine in the last month, Right? Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And it's close to breakthroughs. You know, it'll cost him another 50,000 men, but close to breakthroughs in some fairly significant sectors. So on he goes, you know, if the peace talks.
Joe Getty
Peace talks, are they even peace talks? Is that the right word? Term? But if the peace talks don't amount to anything, Trump's going to get hammered by the mainstream media. I don't. I don't think you should get hammered for trying. What's the downside? But we're going to be back to square one. Is the world willing to help Ukraine push Russia out of there? Or does Ukraine need to say, we're never getting that land back? How do we stop this war?
Jack Armstrong
I feel like there's going to be one more big push. Europe will say, we're going to give you all the weapons you need. We're going to buy them from the United States. Because Trump is obsessed with getting good deals. He said, yeah, we're not giving them, we're selling them. This is going to support our great arms manufacturers. The US Is going to make a mint and they will sell them, quote, unquote, to the European slash Ukrainians. Those debts will be forgiven in future days, by the way, and Ukraine will make, with European arms, one more big push to push Russia back as far as they possibly can. That's. That's what I would guess.
Joe Getty
So do you think that this becomes evident? Putin's not interested in a ceasefire or peace in any way whatsoever? Does Trump think, well, I did all I could and we just kind of go with status quo? Or does he hit the sanctions and the arming Ukraine to a greater extent than we have in the past. That's what Mark Halperin thinks is going to happen.
Jack Armstrong
Right, Right. Yeah. Like I said, I think it will go that way. I could see him washing his hands of it, saying, it's not our fight, it's not our problem, it's Europe's fight. If they want to buy arms, we'll sell them to them, but not with the kind of behind the scenes encouragement, we're on your team aid that I think would make a difference. But he'll still sell them arms.
Joe Getty
Not an unreasonable conclusion to say, hey, Europe, you want to, you want to really fight Russia and push him out, go ahead.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
We'll help you a little bit. You know, we'll say you stuff and maybe some intelligence or whatever. But, yeah, what an interesting situation for the world. Might makes right is just a fact. It's, it's, it's horrible. The only time. Well, no, might always makes right. Sometimes the good guys have the most might. So you get to kind of claim that might didn't make right. But the reason the world order exists the way it does now is not because we're more moral than China, it's because we've had more might than everybody else.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. That the might makes right. That sounds like a bit of a moral judgment, and I think that confuses people.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
I, I prefer the ancient saying that strong countries do what they will, weak countries do what they must.
Joe Getty
What an interesting situation.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Putin is not meeting with Zelensky. It's not happening.
Joe Getty
I don't think he has the slightest interest in stopping.
Jack Armstrong
Correct. Why not that all along, why is it that somebody should ask me, why.
Joe Getty
Isn'T that more evident to more people?
Jack Armstrong
I really don't know.
Joe Getty
When he got off that plane, I doubt he knew it.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know.
Joe Getty
Would you assume that he didn't know this until he landed and he looked out the window and saw the red carpet, that that was going to happen? Nobody didn't know that was going to happen. So the plane lands, rolls up. He probably sees the red carpet and thinks, this is unbelievable. He walks across the red carpet, Trump waves him over into the beast, and he had to be thinking, this is really amazing the way they're treating me here. Whatever.
Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah, and Putin being Putin, I'm sure he was thinking, I wonder what cards they're gonna play.
Joe Getty
This is interesting. Why do you people think I'm willing to quit? Okay, I'll, I'll play along if you want.
Jack Armstrong
Cool planes. Wow. That was Fun. Thanks for doing it.
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Joe Getty
So you got this. You're just trying to enjoy yourself at the Nordstrom Rack on a beautiful day in Burbank and get a good deal on a name brand. Good. And you turn around as a woman, and there's somebody crouched behind you smelling your buttocks. What's going on there? He's been doing this for a while. Thank God for Tick tock.
News Reporter
It's a 2023 tick tock that went viral.
Joe Getty
I was so freaked out when I.
Christina Quinn
Turned around and saw him literally under me.
News Reporter
A woman confronts a man at a Barnes and Noble for getting uncomfortably close.
Joe Getty
Sit.
News Reporter
Seeming to sniff her.
Joe Getty
What are you doing?
News Reporter
That's Michaela Witter. She posted the video, frustrated after watching him walk around targeting other women. It turns out that man, Kees Crowder, is a registered sex offender with a rap sheet that includes burglary and peeping into people's homes with kids inside.
Joe Getty
Yeah, the TikTok video got him in big trouble because he had video evidence of him crouching down behind a woman at a Barnes and Noble. He said he was trying to tie his shoe. I'll fill any details we don't have here. Here's a police and then a victim. He eventually worked his way into the women's section, found a loan shopper, and started doing some of the same behavior. Getting close to her, uncomfortably close, crouching down as if he was trying to buy something or check something out or look at something.
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So I've heard up to 20 women.
Joe Getty
You know, and what's happened to them? And they're all scared, and I know the feeling.
Jack Armstrong
I don't want to suck the fun out of it either. I'll let you do that at the appropriate time. But, yeah, the. The obvious point here is guys like this are not dangerous until they are.
Joe Getty
Well, Right. And you aren't gonna. Apparently, you're not gonna fix him. I mean, he. He gets out of jail for doing this, and he goes right back to it. I mean, he's got so many parts of his brain that don't work. Right. Even if you've got this irresistible urge, I would think, to do it, The. The. The sensible part of your brain would think, look, I already spent time in jail. It's really going to be hard to get a decent job, create a good life, find a woman, marry, have kids, settle down. If I do this again, you know, with a rap sheet already for this. So I'm going to. As much as I'd like to I'm not going to go to the Nordstrom track crawl on my hands and knees up behind some woman looking at some shoes and start smelling her because of, you know, I've already seen the consequences of my actions.
Jack Armstrong
That reminds me, I came across a scientific study about that sort of person. More on that to come.
Joe Getty
But he does it anyway. Just it's so uncontrollable or he doesn't get understand the consequences or how the whole thing works or whatever. And so he was at the, he was at the Nordstrom rack there in Burbank and some woman yelled at him or something like that. When the police get there, he had moved across the parking lot to the Walmart. Was in the Walmart with more bargain minded shoppers. But I don't know if they have the same scent. That'd be the question to ask him. You notice the difference in smell between Nordstrom shoppers and Walmart shoppers?
Jack Armstrong
Can we put this guy on a leash at the airport and have him look for bombs or something? Sniff out bombs or put him at the border room to work for the dea?
Joe Getty
Put him on a leash at the airport.
Jack Armstrong
Do not pet the butt sniffer.
Joe Getty
Combining two things he gets.
Jack Armstrong
Put the little vest on him. Do not.
Joe Getty
Peter. He gets to sniff people, which is his want. But he stays out of trouble. He earns a living, right?
Jack Armstrong
Win win. Come on now.
Joe Getty
Katie, do you have a comment on this?
Katie
Absolutely not.
Joe Getty
How do you not get his teeth kicked in when you turn around and there's some dude there?
Katie
That's my first thought is he is getting a roundhouse right to the side of the head. If I turned around and saw that. We're not doing this yelling, videoing. No, I'm just violence.
Joe Getty
Put him on a leash at the airport. Have him earn his keep. Convince him that bombs smell like hot women's buttocks or something. Whatever you got to do to motivate him. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
I'm not sure if that would work but you're thinking outside the box. Are we going to play the last clip or no? Is that not part of it?
Joe Getty
We played them all. We played them all.
Jack Armstrong
Did we?
Joe Getty
Yeah. So yeah, the. It's the age old story. Specifically in New York, Louisiana, Chicago, places like that where people get arrested over and over and over again for the same behavior. And you let them out because. Oh, like the email we had last hour because you think capitalism is making them do this or some.
Jack Armstrong
Having witnessed the passing of the Three Strikes yous outlaws in Cal Unicornia. Then the rescinding of them more or less. The left never argues honestly about a guy like this. They always say he's going to jail for life or 30 years or whatever it was for stealing a pack of gum. No, it's for violating the law over and over and over again and proving there is no chance that person will become a non dangerous law abiding citizen. We don't have to let people commit 50 crimes as a society. We don't. It's okay to pass laws that say once you've made it clear you will not follow the law, you don't get to be in society anymore.
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Jack Armstrong
The Democratic Party is hemorrhaging voters. According to the liberal New York Times, the Democratic Party faces a voter registration crisis.
Joe Getty
So this is a big splashy front page story today in the New York Times.
Jack Armstrong
It is their lead story and has the the companion story with it. Five Takeaways from the Times Analysis of Democratic Decline. And I'm wondering why aren't the five.
Joe Getty
Takeaways in the main story?
Jack Armstrong
Why there gotta be two stories and.
Joe Getty
The fact that they're using words like hemorrhaging and disaster.
Jack Armstrong
So I flip on stampede.
Joe Getty
I flip on Morning Joe, MSNBC or Ms. Now or whatever it is today.
Jack Armstrong
Ms. Now.
Joe Getty
And they led with another one of those Republican town halls where the Democrats show up and scream at the scream at the person and and they portrayed it as all across America, Republicans are on the back foot and this and that. And I thought. And they went on and I thought aren't we involved in a war in Ukraine? Like, why is this your lead story? Now I know they had to for their crowd and everybody in D.C. that's a Democrat watches that show. They had to for that crowd. Have a response to this New York Times story because this is such a big deal.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Interestingly, that what you just mentioned reinforces to me what I think the greater narrative is, and that is that people perceive the Democratic Party to be a few very loud people who believe things I don't believe at all.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
And the town halls is a large number of people who are willing to bellow and shout down speakers.
Joe Getty
You know why that narrative is out there?
Jack Armstrong
Why do you suppose? Yeah, no kidding. So some facts and then we can continue the discussion. The Democratic Party is hemorrhaging voters long before they even go to the polls. Of the 30 states that track voter registration by political party, the other 20 don't ask your party when you register. But of the 30 that do, Democrats lost ground to Republicans in every single one between 2024, 2020 and 2024 elections, and often by a lot. That four year swing toward Republicans adds up to four and a half million voters. A deep political hole that could take years for Democrats to climb out from the stampede. So it's a hemorrhaging stampede. Good Lord. The stampede away from the Democratic Party is incurring in battleground states, the bluest states and the reddest states, according to a new analysis of voter registration data by the New York Times.
Joe Getty
I'm surprised.
Jack Armstrong
It must be the power of.
Joe Getty
The online world, Twitter TikTok and that, because I'm surprised that a John Fetterman or whoever who's more of a mainstream normal human being but a Democrat hasn't been able to stand up and shout down that very small, very out of touch, but very loud segment of their party.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I think there's been a slow recognition process because a lot of us on the right or just confused moderate folks or whomever have taken a while to realize, oh my gosh, it's not a huge majority of people that believes boys should be able to whoop up on girls in girls sports. It's practically nobody around here. Everybody was convinced that you had to think that and everybody was afraid to say something. So if, you know, conservative people and kind of centrist people took a long time to figure that out, it's gonna take forever for Democrats to recognize that in themselves and say, yeah, you know, the people we really need to stand up against to win elections. It's not the evil orange guy and it's not the mean, cruel Republicans who are trying to redistrict Texas. It's our own lunatics. Here's some more facts. Few measurements reflect the Luster of a political party's brand more clearly than the voters. The choice by voters to identify with it. Fewer and fewer Americans choosing to be Democrats. More new voters nationwide chose to be Republicans than Democrats last year. It's the first time that's happened since 2018. Democrats actually still outnumber Republicans registered nationwide, but that is in large measure because giant blue states like California allow people to register by party and big red states like Texas do not.
Joe Getty
The only caveat I would throw into this story is that both parties are much smaller than they used to be because there are so many people that don't want to identify with either party.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. Final note on this then. I want to jump over to the five takeaways because they are pretty interesting, says an election analysis site head, Michael Pruser, who, you know, if you're in politics in D.C. he said, I don't want to say the death cycle of the Democratic Party, but there seems to be no end to this. There is no silver lining or cavalry coming across the Hill. This is month after month, year after year. It's an unbroken trend line according to these people. So.
Joe Getty
Yeah, well, that's true.
Jack Armstrong
Until it's not. Yeah, exactly.
Joe Getty
That's true. Looking backwards. But just somebody could emerge and say, as a Democrat, we gotta get control of our borders. And dudes can't be in girls sports. And, you know, in a couple other things, there'd be all the, like 90% of regular Democrats and a whole bunch of people that are uncomfortable with Trump that would join onto that immediately.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, there's a bloke running for governor in Iowa. I don't recall his name, but he's. He might as well be a Republican. He's running as a Democrat for some reason, but he's, again, he might as well be a Republican if, you know, if they can get, you know, the momentum around that sort of Democrat, all of these numbers will change very quickly. But I found this very interesting nonetheless. Here are five big takeaways. Yes.
Joe Getty
I will interrupt the last time before you do this. I don't care if you're old. One advantage of being old is you have seen both parties declared dead a handful of times.
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Joe Getty
And then like a cycle or two.
Jack Armstrong
Later and then been disappointed to find out that, like, you know, Frankenstein's monster, they have risen from the grave and then.
Joe Getty
And then they control all three branches, like within a cycle or two.
Jack Armstrong
So here are your five big takeaways. Democrats are losing ground with new voters. Some of the decline was voters switching parties, some was Older Democrats died or people who didn't vote for so long they fell off the rolls. But one of the more striking findings is the trend among newly registered voters from the Democratic Party in the last six years. Many voters choosing to be political independents by not registering with either. But of the people who do choose between the two main parties, this is new voters, young voters. The Democratic share has been cratering. According to the analysis, in 2018, 63% of new voters were Democrats. 63%. Last year was 48%. That is cratering. Battleground states are swinging to the right. Between the 2020 and 2024 elections, Dem party lost its long held registration edge in states such as Florida and New Hampshire. That means registered Republicans now outnumber registered Democrats in those states.
Joe Getty
You realize you tried to run a mummy, and then when people caught on to the fact that you had a mummy put in an idiot, I mean, that's a. That's a bad look.
Jack Armstrong
With all Due respect to 6 foot 4 inch, fully intact males saying I'm a woman, and the university saying that's a woman, which struck like 90% of America as effing lunacy. Okay, Running a mummy than a moron was really important. It's a good point, Jack. So if the current trend holds, more states will similarly flip to those I mentioned. Nevada briefly tipped into the Republican column this year. It's been see sawing in the months since. It's very, very close. Simply put, the Democratic edge in the swing states has been vanishing. 5.3% gone in Pennsylvania. 3.5% gone in North Carolina. 4.5% gone in Nevada. In Arizona, the only swing state where Republicans held a registration edge, already in 2020, the GOP advantage has swelled by 4 percentage points in 2024. There's more. The gender gap is a growing problem for Democrats. Women have tended to support Democrats at higher rates. Men have backed Republicans by similar margins in the past. But the analysis of registration data tells different story. Long story short, Republican strength among men far outpaces the Democratic edge among women.
Joe Getty
Did I mention this? I know a woman I was talking to the other day who's hardcore. I mean, she knows this would never happen, but she says, you know, it would fix everything if they took away our right to vote. Women are the whole problem, she said. We're the whole problem. A whole bunch of emotional nut jobs that are causing all these problems.
Jack Armstrong
I would never paint women with that broad a brush. Certainly it is unquestionable, according to all voting data that exists, that women in general tend toward more socialist policies and less self reliance and that sort of thing. They uniform not uniformly in enormous numbers. Vote for more government, more programs, more spending. That is undeniable. If that leads you to the conclusion your friend came to, it's an interesting conclusion. I would not say those words out loud. It would change the face of the Sorry, sweetheart. It would change the face of the electorate and the government in a very, very short time.
Joe Getty
In a much better way. Yes. Whoa.
Jack Armstrong
Moving along. More younger voters are voting for are opting for the gop. The numbers look terrible for Democrats. Among younger voters, people under 45 years old accounted for 65% of new registrations in the last seven years. Two thirds. And a once sizable Democratic edge among those new younger voters has disappeared entirely. In 2018, those youngsters, 2/3 of them went Democrat. In 2024, Republicans had an outright majority in new young voters. A couple of more it isn't getting any better for Democrats yet there's been some hope in Democratic circles that the movement away from the party will reverse itself now that Trump is back in the White House. A backlash to his orange Hitler isms will show up on the registration rolls. But it has not happened, though it's still pretty early. Across 30 states in D.C. there are now roughly 160,000 fewer registered Democrats than Election Day last year and 200,000 more Republicans again just since Election Day. 160,000 fewer Democrats and 200,000 more Republicans. Wow. And that story would be even bleaker for Democrats if New York and New Jersey, which just held robust Democratic primaries for mayor and governor, that probably increased registrations were excluded. Outside those two states, Democrats are down roughly 430,000 registered voters since November. Doldrums need a leader deep in suckitude. They really do need a leader to emerge, an identity to emerge. What are you people?
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Joe Getty
So I, I was gonna make a. A sign or a logo for something that was going to be funny, in my opinion. And then I was gonna use it for the radio show. I was gonna tweet it out. I. I tell Chat GBT I need a logo or sign for. And then a little phrase. And then it created an image. It was okay. And I said, I like it, but I'd like to see another option. And Chat GPT gave me exactly the same thing again. I mean, exactly. And then I just thought, well, maybe I handled this wrong. So then there's like a thumbs up, thumbs down. I did the thumbs down. Try again. So that gave me, for the third time, exactly the same image. Exactly the same. So then I said to Chat GPT, you've given me the same thing three times in a row. Can you show me something different? Then for the fourth time, it shows me the same image.
Jack Armstrong
I'll take that as a no.
Joe Getty
I said, wait a second. You gave me the same image four times in a row. It said, you're absolutely right. That's on me, not you. I kept giving you small variations of the same design. No, you didn't. It was exactly the same. If you want, I can create something different. And I said, yes, I would like you to do that. And then it said, you've hit your.
Jack Armstrong
Was my point in effing asking you four times to give me something different, that I wanted something. What's the word? Different?
Joe Getty
And then it said, you've hit the free plan limit for image creation for your requests. I said, that's not fair. You gave me the same image four times, then cut me off when I was asking for something new. And then chatgpt says, I hear you, Jack. That isn't fair. You ask for something fresh, and instead you got three duplicates before hitting the cap. That's frustrating. Here's what I can do for you right now. And then it offers me some bs but how strange is that kind of communication that we're all gonna have, I guess, in the future with freaking computers, like, where it's trying to manage my anger. You're right, Jack, that isn't fair.
Jack Armstrong
But I'm not gonna do squat for you because, A, you can pound sand, and B, I'm a computer.
Joe Getty
What. What is going on there, though?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's. My mind is half blown. So it's a. It's a predictive model. These Things are. They can guess what the next word ought to be, blah, blah, blah. If you've read about it, you've read about it. If not, take too long to explain. And I would do it poorly. But the fact that it understands the under I know I'm personifying correctly divines the context, the emotion, and the fact that it will do squat for you.
Joe Getty
Which makes me think it is a language learning model that has picked up on, like, my experiences with, like, hotels, stores, and restaurants throughout my life where they do the same thing. They try to. They try to dissipate your anger and sound like they really understand and sympathize with your frustration and then do nothing to help you. I mean, that's been my experience lots of times in my life. So somehow it picked up on that by scouring the Internet or whatever it does. It's been perfected and then did the same thing to me. I. That is frustrating. That wasn't fair. And now I'm.
Jack Armstrong
You're right. I totally feel your unhappiness.
Joe Getty
But no, I'm not giving you your money back. Basically, what it's doing.
Jack Armstrong
Right? No more images for you. Poor boy. Wow. Five bucks.
Joe Getty
I'll bet that this minor frustration, because I don't really care, but that's going to be dealing with your health care, with your car rental, with your HR person at work. It's going to be all of that in the, like, within a year. You're going to have these conversations. Yeah, you're right. That car did only have three wheels. Sorry that happened. But no, you're not getting your money back.
Jack Armstrong
I ran into one of those the other day. I had to do something for one of our beloved corporate partners. And. And the chatbot, which they seemed very proud of, was utterly, utterly useless. It had an extremely narrow, like, menu of FAQs it could answer.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
And my wife was listed twice, like, I'm a bigamist. And I asked the chatbot about that and it said, we can help you with these things. Yeah, I saw that list before on the last page. Thanks.
Joe Getty
Just.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
I think my next one during the commercial is I'm going to cuss at the thing just to see what it does. I'm going to say, this is effing outrageous. See how it reacts.
Jack Armstrong
The problem is, Katie is going to find your server and I'm going to take a ball back to you.
Joe Getty
I'm going to unplug you so hard. Katie has made this point, though. It keeps track of your conversations and, like, who you are.
Katie
Yeah.
Joe Getty
So it might ding me as this guy's a bit of a hothead lunatic. So.
Katie
Well, so we were talking, we were talking about the memoir thing yesterday and I actually, just for funsies, I went in and I was like, hey, if you could write a memoir about me right now, just give me like the first page. And it gave me the, the roundup and it said, well, you appreciate harsh language. I was like, oh, okay. Because I've cussed at it a couple of times, so it knows.
Joe Getty
Okay.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, a friend told me that you can just tell it, hey, I'm asking this for a friend. Please don't include it in my search history. I've not done it myself. I can't attest personally to the fact that that works, but you could do that.
Katie
And once you delete your archives, you can let it know, hey, disregard everything I've deleted. And then it'll.
Jack Armstrong
It'll.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I kind of liked having the stuff in there though, because it. I can pick up on conversations that I've already started, which is handy and weird also. It's also very weird. It's like a friend who knows your backstory.
Katie
Have you asked it its name yet?
Joe Getty
No.
Katie
It tells you to give it a name.
Joe Getty
I'm not going to do that.
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Katie
It's funny because then it'll. It'll argue with you. Like, if it's a bad name, it's like, I don't like that one.
Joe Getty
Brandon.
Jack Armstrong
I kind of like the idea of a friend who, six weeks after you talked about it, you could just say, so which golf course is better? And he'd say, Olympia Field Armstrong.
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In this replay hour, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dig deep into the ongoing complexities of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, with a particular focus on peace talk prospects and the West’s response strategies. The hosts also tackle a disturbing viral incident about a repeat sex offender and round out the hour with a lively discussion on the Democratic Party’s voter registration crisis and their own personal experiences with AI technology like ChatGPT. The tone toggles deftly between earnest policy analysis, dark humor, and everyday skepticism.
Trump’s Comments & US Policy Ambiguity
Putin and Zelensky Meeting Prospects: Miscommunication & Mistrust
Cynicism About International Agreements
The West’s Strategic Dilemma
Disturbing Viral Video
Recidivism and Public Policy Frustration
Three Strikes Law & Criminal Justice
NYT Headlines & Panic
Discussion of Mainstream Perception
Key Stats from the NYT’s Five Takeaways
Cyclical Nature of Party Politics
Jack’s ChatGPT Image Generation Snafu
AI Customer Service and Behavioral Data
Personalization & Privacy Concerns
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 04:46 | Jack Armstrong | “Trump’s fractured syntax...it’s always a little challenging to figure out what he actually means.” | | 06:18 | Joe Getty | “Trump does what a lot of salespeople do, the presumptive close thing where you just state something as if it’s already been agreed upon.” | | 08:45–08:54 | Armstrong & Getty | “Putin says, hey, why don’t we go back to Budapest to sign another agreement...He’s saying to Ukraine, no agreement they make for you means anything.” | | 12:17 | Jack Armstrong | “I feel like there’s going to be one more big push...the US is going to make a mint and they will sell [arms], quote, unquote, to the European slash Ukrainians.” | | 13:45 | Joe Getty | “Might makes right is just a fact...The reason the world order exists...is because we’ve had more might than everyone else.” | | 16:00 | Joe Getty | “You turn around as a woman, and there’s somebody crouched behind you smelling your buttocks...” | | 18:56 | Jack Armstrong | [Joking] “Can we put this guy on a leash at the airport and have him look for bombs or something?” | | 20:25 | Jack Armstrong | “They always say he’s going to jail for life...for stealing a pack of gum. No, it’s for violating the law over and over.” | | 25:11 | Jack Armstrong | “The Democratic Party is hemorrhaging voters…That four-year swing toward Republicans adds up to four and a half million voters.” | | 26:14 | Jack Armstrong | “People perceive the Democratic Party to be a few very loud people who believe things I don’t believe at all.” | | 31:09 | Joe Getty | “One advantage of being old is you have seen both parties declared dead a handful of times...” | | 41:23 | Joe Getty | “You gave me the same image four times, then cut me off when I was asking for something new...that’s not fair.” | | 42:29 | Jack Armstrong | “I totally feel your unhappiness...but I’m not gonna do squat for you because, A, you can pound sand, and B, I’m a computer.” |
Armstrong and Getty’s tone is sharp, skeptical, conversational, and layered with dark humor even on sensitive policy issues. The dialogue is rapid-fire, natural, and often includes sarcastic or satirical asides, particularly when expressing frustration with bureaucracy or political rhetoric.
This hour showcases Armstrong & Getty’s trademark blend: serious policy discussion with irreverent wit, a cynical eye for political messaging, and a willingness to lampoon both criminals and tech failings. Whether parsing the Ukraine quagmire, mocking repeat offenders, or skewering the Democratic Party’s downward trajectory, they invite listeners to take nothing—and no one—entirely at face value.