The A&G Replay Hour Monday Hour One

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "The A&G Replay Hour Monday Hour One"

Date: December 22, 2025
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Episodes Summarized: Monday Hour One (Replay Hour)

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Episode Overview

In this lively replay hour, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty weave their trademark blend of current events analysis, personal anecdotes, pop-culture references, economic discussion, and sharply comedic banter. This hour spotlights topics including recent Congressional actions, the state of AI and the stock market, "safetyism" and technological risk, corruption in Turkish soccer, debates over capitalism versus socialism, generational cultural shifts, the legalization (and backlash to) marijuana, and the role of culture in economic mobility.

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Key Themes and Discussion Points

1. Congressional Vote on Epstein Files & Media Narratives ([04:02])

• Summary: Armstrong opens with a comedic riff about the House's overwhelmingly bipartisan vote (427-1) to release the Epstein files, noting the oddity of media and popular reactions that frame transparency as somehow damaging to Trump.
• Quote:
  • “It goes to show, every office has that one weirdo.” — Jack Armstrong, [04:02]
• Insights:
  • The hosts critique how narratives get shaped in partisan terms—if Trump is perceived as resisting, the story becomes "this must be bad for Trump."
  • Armstrong points out Trump never provided a substantive explanation for his opposition, simply labeling it a “hoax.”
• Timestamps:
  • The main riff runs from [04:02] to [04:54] and is woven with commentary on media framing.

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2. Generational Humor – ‘Older Fans’ Website ([05:31])

• Summary:
  • Armstrong shares a text from a friend imagining a website called "Older Fans," humorously chronicling minor injuries from aging.
• Memorable moment:
  • “Today my knee hurts because yesterday I had to do something and now I was gardening and now my knee hurts.” — Joe Getty, [05:36]
  • “I walked up four stairs and I hurt my knee... look at me!” — Jack Armstrong, [05:46]

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3. Stock Market & AI – The ‘Nvidia Effect’ ([05:58]–[08:18])

• Summary:
  • The hosts break down the influence of AI—particularly Nvidia—on the recent stock market trends.
  • They discuss financial dependency cycles among tech giants: Nvidia’s profit comes from OpenAI, which profits from Nvidia, both fueled by massive AI spending by Amazon, Microsoft, Google, and Meta.
• Key Quotes:
  • "It's a gold rush and nobody's sure there's gold." — Jack Armstrong, [08:15]
  • “As goes Nvidia, goes the stock market.” — Paraphrasing current financial wisdom.
  • Insights: The discussion highlights the “bubble” fears and how analyst expectations around Nvidia’s earnings could either alleviate or escalate those concerns.

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4. Deep Dive: The History, Promise, and Peril of AI ([08:18]–[15:43])

• AI's Impact & Existential Risk:
  • Armstrong, describing himself as a "doomer," explains his fascination and trepidation about AI, referencing The Last Invention podcast and the "three camps" around the future of AI: doomers, utopian accelerators, and pragmatic accelerators (who want the West to win the AI race).
  • Armstrong expands on the Western cultural shift toward "safetyism"—a reluctance to accept risk or potential harm even if offset by progress (“We won’t let our kids play outside... when the automobile was invented, we just plowed forward.” [11:25])
  • Getty and Armstrong reflect on how seat belts and highway deaths exemplified the previous cultural attitude toward innovation and risk.
• Memorable Quote:
  • “I think AI is going to doom us and it’ll be the end of society and the end of mankind... But there’s no doubt we have a safetyism problem in the country.” — Jack Armstrong, [13:24]
  • “My favorite saying, safety third. Innovation, adventure, then safety.” — Jack Armstrong, [14:02]
• Nuanced Views:
  • The hosts are skeptical of utopian thinking about AI, emphasizing the risk of ignoring human nature.
  • Getty draws parallels to libertarian government: “The reason they think their version would work is they think everybody’s like them... the average person’s gonna sit around, get fat, and do drugs.” ([15:25])

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5. Humorous Interludes: Spotify Wrapped & Calculator Wrapped ([18:51]–[19:44])

• Summary:
  • Jack pokes fun at the year-end trend of sharing “Spotify Wrapped” by riffing on “Calculator Wrapped”—exaggerating people’s dependence on calculator apps and their attempts to use calculators to quit jobs or entertain their kids.
  • “You’re in the top 1% of people who typed boobs upside down.” — Jack Armstrong, [19:03]

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6. Corruption in Turkish Soccer ([19:44]–[22:09])

• Summary:
  • Getty reports a huge match-fixing scandal in Turkish soccer involving over 1,000 players and officials, including referees and announcers.
  • Armstrong jokes: “For all I know, the fans are getting 10 bucks a piece to cheer or boo at the right time.” ([21:21])
• Takeaway:
  • The story's scale is used to explore broader themes of systemic corruption, with the hosts riffing on how credibility in sports, once lost, is nearly impossible to regain.

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7. Peter Thiel & Millennial Disillusionment with Capitalism ([27:07]–[32:59])

• Summary:
  • Discussion of Peter Thiel’s observations that capitalism is failing millennials, who increasingly favor socialism due to debt and housing inaccessibility.
  • Reading from responses in the Free Press, Armstrong highlights a point by Blake Scholl (Boom Supersonic CEO): Mixing socialism into capitalism leads to blaming capitalism for problems socialism causes (and vice versa).
• Key Quote:
  • “If you insert enough socialist elements into a capitalist system, when the socialist elements inevitably cause problems, people will blame the capitalism and then turn socialist.” — Blake Scholl, as quoted by Armstrong, [29:25]
• Host Reflection:
  • Armstrong and Getty ruminate on how welfare-state logic can inadvertently justify bigger government and more “governmentalism.”

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8. Role of Personal Choices and Overregulation ([32:59]–[34:24])

• Key Point:
  • Discussing the tendency to ignore the impact of individual choices (like education, work ethic, values)—and instead default to systemic explanations for economic outcomes.
  • “Personal choices, your life choices, aren't just not listed as king of the hill... they're not discussed at all.” — Jack Armstrong, [33:20]

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9. Culture and Economic Mobility (Roland Fryer & Thomas Sowell) ([34:24]–[41:18])

• Main Discussion:
  • Armstrong cites arguments by economists Roland Fryer and Thomas Sowell: Culture—shared values like thrift, education, and work—correlates strongly with economic success, regardless of race or ethnicity.
  • Armstrong: “The closer we get to capitalism, the more everyone is better off in real terms. The closer we get to socialism, the more death and suffering result.” ([32:18], quoting Fryer and Sowell segments)
• Quote:
  • “At the root of this terrible confusion is a failure of our education system and our media to give the next generation a proper history education.” — From Blake Scholl, as read by Armstrong, [31:07]
• Memorable Moment:
  • Getty: “It wasn't until we started to—well, you know, get back to Elvis and the Beatles and the devolving of our culture. I think it all fits together, actually.” ([39:01])

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10. High School NIL, Modern Marijuana Backlash ([44:17]–[47:08])

• Summary:
  • Discussing how “NIL” (Name, Image, and Likeness) money has trickled down to Southern California high school football, creating ethically fraught situations for young athletes.
  • Armstrong notes a Massachusetts movement to undo legalization of recreational marijuana due to unintended consequences: higher use rates, persistent black markets, unmet tax revenue promises, and concerns about youth impact.
• Debate:
  • Comparing marijuana’s risks to alcohol: “80,000 to 100,000 people die from drinking every year. So is pot worse?” — Joe Getty, [46:50]
  • Armstrong: “I think that’s probably an unanswerable question.” ([47:02])

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “It’s a gold rush and nobody’s sure there’s gold.” — Jack Armstrong, [08:15]
• “I think AI is going to doom us and it’ll be the end of society... But there’s no doubt we have a safetyism problem in the country.” — Jack Armstrong, [13:24]
• “My favorite saying, safety third. Innovation, adventure, then safety.” — Jack Armstrong, [14:02]
• “If you insert enough socialist elements into a capitalist system... people will blame the capitalism and then turn socialist.” — Blake Scholl (as read by Armstrong), [29:25]
• “Personal choices aren't just not listed as king of the hill... they’re not discussed at all.” — Jack Armstrong, [33:20]
• “Culture is one of the most underrated ideas in economics... For decades, economists avoided invoking culture...” — Roland Fryer, as quoted by Armstrong, [36:07]

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Episode Structure & Flow

• The episode kicks off with fast-paced banter, moves into deeper economic and cultural analysis (especially around AI and capitalism), provides rapid-fire humor interludes, examines international news, and closes with commentary on current American policy debates and cultural trends.
• Armstrong & Getty’s tone remains conversational, irreverent, but earnest—mixing sharp comedic lines with serious, sometimes contrarian, analysis.

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Conclusion

This replay hour captures Armstrong & Getty's signature style: dissecting major news stories and broad cultural shifts with wit, skepticism, and a willingness to challenge conventional wisdom. The episode’s diverse topics are unified by a recurring focus on human nature, the unpredictability of innovation, and the perennial tensions between progress, regulation, and personal responsibility. Listeners are left with lively dialogue to ponder on topics ranging from AI and economics to sports corruption and legal weed—always anchored by the hosts’ distinctive voices.

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Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

The Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the.

[Jack Armstrong]

George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong, strong and strong. Not live from Studio C. Not live, senor.

[Joe Getty]

We're in a dimly lit room deep within the bows of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound on this Monday, and.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'Re under the tutelage of our general manager. The Christmas season, which is well underway. Christmas Day, just a few days away. Ho ho, ho, ho ho.

[Joe Getty]

And our early gift to you. Our leftovers.

[Jack Armstrong]

So delicious.

[Joe Getty]

So sit back and enjoy the Armstrong and Getty replay.

[Jack Armstrong]

The House voted to release the Epstein files. And if the day couldn't get any worse for Trump, halfway through the vote, there was a performance from Bad Bunny. The final vote was 427 to 1. It just goes to show, every office has that one weirdo. You know what I'm saying? Charming efforts at humor. How the narrative has taken shape that this is bad for Trump to the extent that his young liberal audience cheered and all because it's bad for Trump is so interesting. Mostly through Trump's, you know, resistance to it, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Because your. Your natural reaction is he doesn't want this to happen. There must be something back which may not.

[Jack Armstrong]

He never offered like a real explanation of why he was against it. It's a hoax. It's a stupid.

[Joe Getty]

We'll talk more about that in hour four. We talked a lot about it now. Or two. One and two. There's a bunch there and this might be our slide into the country being really real television if this sets a precedent. But more on that later. Wanted to talk about first of all, this. I got a text from a friend of mine. I thought this was pretty damn funny. She is in her mid-40s, an attractive woman in her mid-40s. She said, I'm going to create a website called Older Fans and it's just me telling People, what part of my body hurts today and what minuscule task I was doing that caused it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's priceless. Well done. Yeah, that is really good. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You get on there and you're dressed, you know, whatever, you're dressed sexy and say, today my knee hurts because yesterday I had to do something and now I was gardening and now my knee hurts.

[Jack Armstrong]

I walked up four stairs and I hurt my knee. How? I don't know. Look at me. Yeah. Hansen says he wants to be the first subscriber. That's brilliant. 10 out of 10, my dear. Well played.

[Joe Getty]

So if you've been following the stock market, it's had a rough week or so and it's almost all AI. Well, almost all of the growth in the stock market over the last couple of years has been AI and so a downturn is around AI and it's concerned that the bubble's about to burst and that sort of stuff. Huge day to day. Why Nvidia, which is a big chip maker, which the common thing to say in the stock market world right now is as goes Nvidia, goes the stock market. That's how big a deal they are. They're going to announce their earnings at the close of the bell today. So around 4:30 Eastern Time, they'll put out their earnings. And this might shore up this concern that it's a bubble. Depending on how well they do or analysts expect to dig this, analysts expect the chip behemoth to show more than a 50% growth in net income and revenue this quarter. Good corner moving up. Yeah, I would say that will shore up the whole this is a bubble thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nope, there's the stock market.

[Joe Getty]

I mean it still could be a bubble, but the bubble ain't about. It ain't over yet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Except as you've pointed out, that whole incestuous thing. Nvidia's profits mostly came from, you know, OpenAI, whose profits mostly came from Nvidia, whose profits mostly came from cloud services from Amazon.

[Joe Getty]

I can tell you right here, this is from Bloomberg. So they're expecting Nvidia to announce a 50% growth in both net income and revenue its fiscal third quarter. The reason is straightforward. Says here, Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet, that's Google or that's. That's Google. Right. And Meta, which is Facebook and Zuckerberg, all taken together represent more than 40% of Nvidia's sales.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're buying the chips for AI.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And they're projected to increase their combined AI spending by 34 over the next year. They've been throwing money at AI like crazy. And those companies that I all just mentioned are going to increase it by a third over the next 12 months. It's expected. Holy crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a gold rush and nobody's sure there's gold.

[Joe Getty]

So I was talking yesterday about how much I read and listen to about AI. Joe was asking why. For me it's, I think it might be the biggest thing that's ever happened on planet Earth. So I would like to know as much about it as possible.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the reason I asked was it seems like uncertainty piled on uncertainty and it's just at some point you get okay, we're not sure.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, I highly recommend. Steve Hayes of the Dispatch did an interview with a podcast guy the other day that broke it down like really long conversations into about an hour. So if you're interested in at all he had on the guy from the podcast, the last invention which I've gotten into now, it's really good. It gets into the history of all this, which is what I was going to talk about now. The history of AI. AI got a really big start in the 50s and we got to jump on it and had almost all your sci fi and projections of flying cars and all that sort of stuff that if you're older you grew up with all came out of this rush toward AI in the 50s. Then it just got like stuck for some reason. And I haven't heard an explanation for that. My. I suspect it's just computing power. Wasn't there just plain didn't have the computing power at the time to pull off their ideas behind AI. And then with Moore's Law, with computer power cube cuting, computing power doubling roughly every 18 months over the last many, many, many decades, we've gotten to a point now that chips are so fast and processing speeds are so great that they can do the stuff that they thought about a very long time ago, which is interesting. Now I'm. I'm a doomer in the the three camps that that particular podcast talks about. The. The real polar opposites are the doomers like me that think this is going to be the end of mankind. It's going to be the worst thing that ever happened to us. It's coming whether we like it or not. How quickly it ends, I don't know. In my lifetime or not, I don't know. We'll find out. And then you got the accelerators, he calls them, or the people that say this is going to be the greatest thing that ever happened to mankind. Well, it's split between Two crowds, the accelerators. I think I mentioned this yesterday. You've got the. This is going to be the greatest thing for mankind. We're going to cure all the diseases. We're going to live to be 150. Nobody's going to have to work. It's going to be the like heaven on earth everybody is hoped for since the dawn of time. Half the accelerators believe that. The other half the accelerators think no, no, no. I think it's going to be the worst thing that ever happened. But better that we get it first rather than the Chinese. So that's why I'm all for plowing forward as fast as we can. But I was listening to this podcast guy yesterday from the last invention talk about how safety ism is what's driving the doomers. He was just presenting the different arguments and there's no doubt that we have a safetyism problem in our culture. You no doubt whatsoever.

[Jack Armstrong]

The entire western world.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, the entire western world. We don't let kids play tag at school. We put rubber bumpers on the corner of our tables when our kids are little. I mean just all these different things that we do. We won't let our kids play outside.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's a park on their own, whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we've got millions examples of this. And the guy was talking about how we didn't used to be like that culturally when the automobile was first invented and then started to become mass produced and going. We didn't get seat belts until what? They didn't put seat belts in cars at all for a very, very, very long time. And then they weren't mandated in this country until what, the 90s? I don't even know when that happened. It was a long time. And he makes the point that everybody wasn't pushing back on the automobile. You know, how many people are going to die from this? And what about all the jobs that are going to be lost from farm with horses and this and that and all these different things? It's going to destroy these industry. No, we just plowed ahead with this new invention that was super cool and it was the latest technology and we just full steam ahead, for example, on the danger of it the peak of highway deads. I did the research on this Yesterday was in 1970. I think it was about 58,000 deads with a much smaller population that'd be the equivalent of 95,000 highway deaths today. We were willing to put up with in 1970 because we just thought the technology was important enough. It changed our lives enough in a Positive way. We were just plowing forward. That's the way we used to look at things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I'm tempted to go off on a tangent about safetyism and how our acceptance that humans live and then they die and perhaps there's a better place afterward has given way to. We've got to prolong our lives as long as possible, no matter what it costs, culturally speaking. But back to you.

[Joe Getty]

But here was an invention that was clearly gonna kill lots of people. And the data was there right in front of us that was that it was killing lots of people for a long time. I mean, there were lots of highway deaths in the 50s and the 60s. We kept moving forward. We're faster and more powerful cars and it wasn't people afraid to get in them. And then, like I said, the what will this do to society? Blah, blah. I mean, there were those articles. You can find them, they're hilarious. But we, we plowed forward and then a lot of the naysaying about AI now fits in with our safetyism. I don't know if I fully buy this argument because I think AI is going to doom us and it'll be the end of society and the end of mankind and all these different sorts of things. But there's no doubt we have a safetyism problem in the country and any modern invention now, if you tried to get the car, for instance, going now, there'd be so much pushback around the danger and the changes to our economy. And we probably shouldn't. We're more of a probably shouldn't society now than we were back in the day. There's no doubt about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

My favorite saying, safety. Third innovation, adventure, then safety.

[Joe Getty]

I look forward to listening to the episode of the podcast from the last invention where it gets to the accelerators. Not the ones that think we need to accelerate just to stay ahead of a China, but the accelerators that think it's going to bring about the greatest time in human history. I think, I think those people are nuts. I mean, like crazy. Crazy don't understand human nature at all. Nutso that they think nobody's going to have to work is going to lead up to a positive outcome. I couldn't, I couldn't disagree with that.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you do not specifically address that concern about human nature and idle hands and the rest of it, then they need to go to hell. I mean, that's ridiculous. It's like rent control, which we were talking about earlier, not addressing the constriction of supply.

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[Jack Armstrong]

If you don't address that. You're a crackpot. I'm not going to waste 10 seconds listening to you.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, they, they just don't believe it. So it's. You've used this example before among like some of your super smart libertarians. The reason they think their, their version of government would work is they think everybody's like them. They think everybody's super smart, motivated to do the right thing, et cetera, et cetera.

[Jack Armstrong]

If everybody's like motivated, they'll always stay busy and go get it because that's how human beings behave.

[Joe Getty]

And I think a lot of the AI accelerators, they have that problem too. Well, I, if I had more free time, I would learn to play the piano, I would travel the world, I would write a symphony, I would do all these different sorts of things. That's not the average person. Maybe you would if you had lots of free time. The average person's gonna sit around, get fat and do drugs.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Well everybody, this week everyone's been sharing their Spotify wrapped.

[Joe Getty]

You know what I'm talking about?

[Jack Armstrong]

No?

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[Jack Armstrong]

It's when Spotify puts together a little recap of your listening stats for the whole year. But Spotify isn't the only app that does this.

[Joe Getty]

Oh no.

[Jack Armstrong]

Check out what people got in their phones earlier today. Your calculator wrapped is ready. You had a busy year. You calculated restaurant tips 886 times because you can't do basic math. You accidentally opened the app 17 times when you meant to open the one next to it. You're in the top 1% of people who typed boobs upside down. You type 67 and showed your son in a desperate attempt to connect three times. You accidentally typed in 6:30 when you were drunk and trying to set an alarm for work twice. And you calculated how much more money you need to quit your job 45671 times.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't forget to share with your friends. Wow. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

This made me sad. For some reason, I'm thankful that I do not have a job where I every day calculate. How many more days do I have to do this because I've had jobs like that. Oh, yeah, and it sucks. I'm glad I wasn't betting on Turkish soccer because it's fairly corrupt. The bust this week of a massing betting investigation into Turkish professional soccer. It's the biggest sport in that country, as it is in most countries around the world that aren't the United States. Over 1,000 players have been suspended, including top tier players from the major clubs.

[Jack Armstrong]

How many players are there in this league?

[Joe Getty]

149 referees.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

Arrest warrants have been issued for dozens of individuals, including club presidents, referees and commentators. So you had. You had soccer matches where the president of the club is corrupt, the players are corrupt, the referee's corrupt, and then the guy announcing the game is corrupt.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm at a loss for how the guy announcing the game, maybe. Maybe he just has to be bought off. Not to say, you know, the goalkeeper clearly let that ball in. Wait a minute. What just happened here? Or you want him on the take?

[Joe Getty]

That wasn't a foul.

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[Joe Getty]

What are you talking about?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

They just don't want that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

To what extent was it real at all if the owner, the player, the ref, and the guy announcing it are all in on the. On the fix? It's really WWE at that point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. For all I know, the fans are getting 10 bucks a piece to keep.

[Joe Getty]

Their mouths cheer or boo at the right time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

How long would it take to turn that around and have anybody believe it's real and continue to bet? But obviously people were betting to the extent that it was worth paying off a thousand players and owners and referees and announcers and everything like that. The scandal has caused serious disruption. Lower division matches have been postponed. There's a growing concern over integrity in Turkish and European football broadly, just because the owners, the players, the refs and the announcers were all on the take.

[Jack Armstrong]

This guy mowing the field on the.

[Joe Getty]

Up and up, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Wow. Growing concern. Yeah, it ought to be.

[Joe Getty]

Guy out there parking the cars in the furthest away lot.

[Jack Armstrong]

You.

[Joe Getty]

You got a. Back in. Well, back in. He's on the take.

[Jack Armstrong]

If I had the time, I would love to study Turkish culture and politics more there at the nexus between the, you know, European world and the Muslim world. Really, really interesting. And Erdogan is half a dictator and it's just really, really good stuff. Oh, which reminds me, I heard some really, really thought provoking talk about the nature of Islam in Europe that I'd love to get to next hour. If you don't get next hour. You got to go somewhere. That's fine. Subscribe to our podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand. You can listen to it later.

[Joe Getty]

Oh man. At your leisure. As you're driving around all weekend shopping.

[Jack Armstrong]

For Christmas and everything like that, imagine the pleasures.

[Joe Getty]

You can enjoy your favorite segments over and over with the kids in the backseat. Huh? That's some good stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

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Post season two of unrivaled basketball is here and the talent is unreal. Paige Beckers, Nafiza Collier, Kelsey Plumb, Brianna Stewart and more are back to redefine the game. Unrivaled basketball season two, sponsored by Samsung Galaxy, tips off January 1st 5th on TNT, TruTV and HBO Max. When the phrase 67 exploded online this.

[Joe Getty]

Year, it was fueled by Generation Alpha kids 15 and younger who've begun forging.

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A dictionary's worth of often baffling vocabulary.

[Joe Getty]

Still, it's lingo that's burst into classrooms like Amy Wargo's how often are you.

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Hearing phrases like this every day?

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What do you think that's about? Having something to actually bring them together. Many younger Gen Alpha kids started school.

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During the isolation of the pandemic. Wargo says that attachment to the virtual.

[Joe Getty]

World remains in a way that differentiates.

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Them from Gen Z.

[Joe Getty]

Previous kids it was fidget spinners and bottle flipping.

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Now it's anything they hear on TikTok.

[Joe Getty]

A shared experience which we just don't have anymore. So whether it was, you know, the pandemic hurrying it along, it was going to happen anyway because we just don't have shared experiences anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, how interesting. Apparently Peter Thiel wrote a piece recently about how capitalism, the free market, is failing millennials.

[Joe Getty]

He's an interesting dude, that Peter Thiel. He is paypal mafia billionaire duty that has gone out there and done all different kind of stuff. He's all over the map politically. Sometimes I agree with him vehemently and sometimes I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he's behind Palantir too, which is doing amazing work and really patriotic anyway. But he was reaching out to Facebook executives of all people. But he said when 70% of millennials say they are pro socialist, we need to do better than simply dismiss them by saying that they are stupid or entitled or brainwashed. We should try and understand why, which is absolutely true. Then the Free Press is Sean Fisherman sat down with Thiel to talk about what he saw in 2020 that made him write that more recently and Just a super quick summary. Capitalism is not working for young people. Thiel said, citing burdensome student debt regulations, putting homeownership out of reach for many. Quote, people assume everything still works, but objectively it doesn't. If you proletarianize the young people, you shouldn't be surprised if they eventually become communists. Now, I wish I had more of the piece in front of me. I don't. I could have grabbed it. But what the free press did was they ran a bunch of reactions to it from people both, you know, people you may have heard of and some you didn't. I love this one from Blake Sholl, who's the founder and CEO of something called Boom Supersonic, which I have no idea what that means. It might be a dance video platform, it might be an airplane. It might be a drug or a social network. Anyway, perhaps Katie could endeavor to figure out what Boom Supersonic is just to amuse me, if you don't mind. But what he said was really cool. Any idea? Not yet. Okay, now we're getting there. Okay, here's what he said. If you insert enough socialist elements into a capitalist system, when the socialist elements inevitably cause problems, people will blame the capitalism and then turn socialist. That's what's happened in New York City, for example, where Mamdani voters are motivated by high rents and crippling student debts, even though rent control drives up housing prices and government subsidies for higher education encourage universities to raise tuition.

[Joe Getty]

You know, because I can see.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wait, there's more real quick. Likewise, you insert enough capitalist elements into a socialist system, the system sort of begins to work and people think socialism works. That's what happened in China, damn it.

[Joe Getty]

But I can see how I've even done that. I've talked about this many times over the years. I just did a few minutes ago. Since we do live in a welfare state, then I think the government should be able to do this. I. I don't justify the, you know, more socialism so much, but the more government control aspect of it. If you're going to allow. If, if some of my money is going to go feed people who lose all their money gambling, then I think society ought to be able to outlaw gambling, which just, you know, just. It is an argument towards bigger government making more decisions for us. So, yeah, you inject a little bit of socialism, because I don't care if people just use staying on this example. I don't care at all if somebody spends their life savings on gambling and runs out of money. Unless at the end of that story, when you and your kids are hungry. You take my money. Now all of a sudden I care. So you've injected some socialism, because we do do that. I said, doo doo. We feed the hungry. So now I'm feeding you with my money. Now I get to decide whether or not you gamble, which is kind of an element of big government socialism.

[Jack Armstrong]

And getting back to Blake Shoal, the founder and CEO of Boom Supersonic, which is the largest chain of car wash centers across America, or. I don't know, what is it, Katie? Have we figured that out? Yeah, it's a company that's aiming to make commercial supersonic flights more accessible. Oh, okay, okay. Interesting. Anyway, so he goes on, at the root of this. At the root of this terrible confusion is a failure of our education system and our media to give the next generation a proper history education. Today's problems of affordability almost exclusively come from our most socialist institutions, such as our heavily regulated, subsidized in centrally planned health care and education systems. By contrast, the freer, more capitalist industries such as electronics and computing have driven enormous improvements across the board in real world standards of living. The closer we get to capitalism, the more everyone is better off in real terms. The closer we get to socialism, the more death and suffering result. We can't let capitalism be socialism's fall guy. It's on us to help the next generation separate the capitalist wheat from the socialist chaff so we can all enjoy a freer or more prosperous future. That was my favorite answer.

[Joe Getty]

The socialist noise from the capitalist signal, as people like to say nowadays.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Interestingly, a couple of my other favorites were all about life choices.

[Joe Getty]

That is really good. So just to dwell on that a second before you get to the life choices. So you have a socialist society, you do a little capitalism like they did in China, which helped them make a lot of money, and you credit socialism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And if you insert enough socialist elements into a capitalist system, when the socialist elements inevitably cause problems, people blame the capitalism and then turn socialist.

[Joe Getty]

That's unfortunate.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is good. So there's a lot of stuff about personal choice, and we talked about this earlier, it is the 800 pound gorilla, you know, in a pet store full of little kittens in terms of how people's lives turn out.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Clean up on aisle five.

[Jack Armstrong]

There is there. There are a number of different things that can affect your life in a material way, from your, your upbringing to your genetics to your race to a whole bunch of stuff. But the idea that personal choices, your life choices aren't listed as the king of The Hill aren't not just not listed as the king of the Hill. They're not discussed at all.

[Joe Getty]

No, in fact, it's frowned upon if you look at them.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's, it's. That is an excuse for what I would call governmentalism, the idea that government should solve all of our problems.

[Joe Getty]

You're shaming people if you're going to take.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're blaming the victim.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah. But I thought it was interesting that so many really brilliant and persuasive people wrote about. About personal choices.

[Joe Getty]

Jim the gorilla is in the kitten aisle.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy, not again.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, say no more.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the other thing that they talk about is over regulation and how. And oh man, I just came across a great example of this. And most people don't know this. I didn't know it until fairly late in life. A lot of regulations are attempting to stifle competition. The big guys figure, all right, compliance with these complex regulations will cost us 3% of our revenue. But a plucky startup with good ideas that wants to come and take our market share, that'll be like 15% of their revenues and they could never afford it. So we will quash any competition with regulations that sound like they're protecting the consumer or the environment or whatever. But they lobbied, the big guys lobbied to regulate their own industry to crush competition. Did you know that's a thing? It's a thing, folks. Then finally this love, Jason Riley, Wall Street Journal. And he wrote a great piece about this incredible school, Piney Wood School in Mississippi. It is again, yet again, the classic educational success story. A lot of poor kids, a lot of black kids doing amazing things, achieving, learning, getting into college, the rest of it.

[Joe Getty]

Why?

[Jack Armstrong]

High standards, strictly enforced discipline, and high expectations of the kids. And the kids love it and they excel like crazy.

[Joe Getty]

Sounds like white supremacy to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my Lord. Jason Riley with a great piece about that. But I was going to use that to introduce another one of my favorite black thinkers, Roland Fryer, who's writing about the economics of culture, which we were just talking about life choices. People from cultures that emphasize productive habits tend to advance. The reverse is also true. I mean, that's one of the most self evidently obvious things you could possibly say. But man, that is strict verboten on the left to say that. That is why you hear those idiotic things like punctuality as white supremacy and trying hard is white supremacy and exceptionalism. Or what's the. You promote people based on their excellence. Is white supremacy meritocracy? Meritocracy, yeah. Exactly. But Roland writes, and you may know, he was the guy who came out with a carefully constructed study early in his career that said, no, young black men are not disproportionately shot and shot dead in America by police. It's not true, and it was unassailable research, but the left essentially made him a propriet. But anyway, he writes, culture is one of the most underrated ideas in economics. For decades, economists avoided invoking cultures that share values.

[Joe Getty]

You are scratching the biggest itch I've got. This, this is, wow, really my, this is my thing right here.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm loving putting aside the highly troubling metaphor. I'm glad to be doing so. For decades, economists avoid invoking culture, the shared values, norms, beliefs, preferences and behaviors of a group, as an explanation for economic outcomes. It seemed too intangible to measure and too messy to model. Thomas Sowell. Oh my God. Two of my favorite thinkers happen to be black men quoted in the same thing, whose legacy was celebrated recently at Stanford's Hoover Institution. Changed that. He was among the first economists to treat culture as an important economic variable. Mr. Sowell has argued that both human capital and culture drive mobility, more so, in his view, than discrimination or external barriers. Groups that develop productivity enhancing traits such as skills, an orientation toward education and work, and thriftiness tend to advance. Those whose cultures don't emphasize these things tend to fall behind. In Mr. Sowell's view, culture is a form of capital, an accumulation of habits, and know how that powerfully influences a group's project progress could not be truer. And, and you know, I'd like to read this whole thing because it's so incredibly important. I'll bet he goes into a bunch of different studies. Go ahead.

[Joe Getty]

I'll bet that the reason it's so recent that anybody talked about it, wrote about it, is that that we just were all in agreement up until fairly recently, mid ish 20th century, that yeah, of course, being thrifty and working hard is a good idea and everybody should do it. It was mostly in agreement. It wasn't until we started to, well, you know, I get back to Elvis and the Beatles and the devolving of our culture. I think it all fits together, actually.

[Jack Armstrong]

But so again, we're pressed for time. But so he goes into his research and his academic background and he talks about cultural differences across racial and ethnic groups are unmistakable. And then he talks about various shows and how popular they are among cultures. But for social scientists, the hardest part of studying culture is trying to find a way to measure it. And in the early to mid 2000s, Stephen Levitt and I tried, he's from the Free Economics guy, tried to answer that question by focusing on one small but revealing expression of cultures, the names parents give their children. Man, that's, it's long and interesting. But here's, here's the most revealing part of this. They went into other parts of the world, other countries with cultures you know nothing about, and you had two groups of people that looked just like this, just the same, similar religions, et cetera. But over here, they valued hard work, savings, education, et cetera. Over there they didn't guess what the first group did way, way better than the other ones. And it wasn't white supremacy because there weren't any damn white people. They refer to the fact that. And what's the number? I wish I could find it that Pakistani Americans earn 60 cents on the dollar to Indian Americans because of what? White racism? Are you kidding me? No. Cultural norms. It's like the most important thing in the world and nobody wants to talk about it because you get. But I don't care. I'll talk about it, sir. Chicken. Armstrong and Getty. Armstrong and Getty. Armstrong and Getty. Armstrong and Getty.

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Post season two of unrivaled basketball is here and the talent is unreal. Paige Beckers, Nafiza Collier, Kelsey Plumb, Brianna Stewart and more are back to redefine the game. Unrivaled basketball season two, sponsored by Samsung Galaxy, tips off January 1st 5th on TNT, True TV and HBO.

[Jack Armstrong]

Max, you know what I hadn't realized until I came across an article about it today? Was that high school football they're highlighting. Southern California high school football is now full on the nil money thing, with boosters paying big money to little kids to come to their high schools. Wow. To play football. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

I know a little bit about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, in this one kid that they highlight who's now he's going to be playing in the Big Ten championship game for Ohio State. A receiver. The story opens with him tearfully calling his grandmother, begging her to come get him because his drug addict mother had sold him to a team in Southern California to go play receiver there. Unbelievable. Speaking of the evils of modern society, a couple of days ago, Massachusetts voters took a major step to repeal the legalization of recreational marijuana in the state. The Coalition for a Healthy Massachusetts submitted more than 74,000 signatures required to put the question on the 2026 state ballot. Once certified, the measure will go to the state legislature for consideration. If they decline to pass it, organizers must collect more signatures to put it to a statewide vote next year. But Massachusetts isn't alone. In Idaho, where marijuana is currently illegal, a measure to block future voter initiatives to legalize the drug is on the ballot for 2026.

[Joe Getty]

So what led them to want to do this? What were they thinking was going to happen when it was legalized? That hasn't occurred. Or the reverse? I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are a bunch of unforeseen effects. Number one, it was believed by a lot of people that the rate of marijuana use wouldn't change much. It would just be out in the open and could be regulated and blah, blah, blah. But freely legal weed and the fact that it's practically laughable, the idea that the cops would talk to somebody who has marijuana to make sure it's legal weed or whatever in the legalized states, it's just, it's not happening. So lots and lots more people are smoking pot. The promised tax revenues have not materialized. The black market for pot hasn't gone anywhere because the like. In California, it's so taxed and regulated, it's legal. Pot is pretty expensive and though plenty of people consume it, a lot of people just keep going to their neighborhood dealer they've always gone to.

[Joe Getty]

But so back to the conversation of.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, it's really, really bad for kids brains.

[Joe Getty]

80 to 100,000 people die from drinking every year. So is pot worse than drinking?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I think that's probably an unanswerable question.

[Joe Getty]

Or drinking just got grandfathered in and it doesn't need to make sense. It's just a thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

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