The A&G Replay Hour Monday Hour Three

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "The A&G Replay Hour Monday Hour Three"

iHeartPodcasts | December 22, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode features Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty in their signature replay format, highlighting notable segments addressing conspiracy theorists in media, the psychological state of young men in America, and a brief foray into American history and government waste. The tone is irreverent but thoughtful, as the hosts weave personal anecdotes with cultural observation, often punctuated by satire and dry humor.

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Main Topics and Key Discussion Points

1. Media Figures and the Descent into Conspiracy (03:58 – 14:45)

• Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens Critique

  • Joe Getty discusses his former admiration for Tucker Carlson’s intellect, lamenting what he sees as a turn "toward this groipery anti-Semitism that I find very, very troubling" (04:21).
  • The hosts briefly recall meeting Candace Owens, describing her as “extremely articulate and confident” but “incredibly standoffish” in person (05:25–05:43).

• Candace Owens’ Conspiratorial Rhetoric

  • Jack and Joe examine recent conspiratorial and inflammatory statements by Owens regarding the assassination of Charlie Kirk, referencing her technique of “just asking questions” to distance herself from direct accusations while insinuating wrongdoing (06:00–09:05).
    • Owens audio (07:05): “What sort of widow wouldn't want people to investigate the assassination of their husband? Every day that goes on, it feels to me like Turning Point is engaged in a cover up. So criticisms pertaining to anything at Turning Point USA that are being directed at Erica are fair. Obviously they are fair.”
  • Discussion of her "fake historian" tactics and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, comparing her to Alex Jones but noting, “Owens is more alluring and sinister... to gain influence and turn MAGA in a direction hostile to Israel, Jews, and Judaism” (09:27–10:38).
  • Notable moment: Satirical summary of Owens' conspiracies, e.g., “Harvard is a Mossad base... The Jews killed JFK and for some reason also Michael Jackson. Stalin was a secret Jew, and so was Atatürk.” (10:38)

• Conspiracy Theories and Their Allure

  • The hosts reflect on the mechanics of modern conspiracies, likening their persistence and structure to narratives from the Middle Ages (13:15–14:45).
  • Jack: “If my conscience would allow me, it’d be pretty fun to do the Candace thing where you just make stuff up and kind of ride this wave of nonsense and keep people pulling up, pulling people along and come up with new wacky ideas.” (13:56)

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2. American Slavery, History, and Educational Narratives (21:00 – 22:32)

• Isaac Newton and Alchemy

  • Jack explains Newton’s hidden fascination with alchemy, noting, “He wrote more about this than he did about anything about gravity or anything else” (20:59–21:17).
  • The story of how economist John Maynard Keynes bought Newton’s papers, revealing his religious and alchemical writings.

• Critique of the 1619 Project

  • Joe critiques historical oversimplification and the “self-hatred” narrative in American education, claiming, “We've got a couple generations of people with really perverse beliefs about this country and they're 100% certain that they're right.” (22:17)
  • Notable quote: "It's horse s. It comes out of the south side of a northbound horse." – Jack Armstrong (22:28).

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3. Young Men, Tech Addiction, and Societal Shifts (27:46 – 37:31)

• Statistics on Young Men in America

  • Following a Bill Maher segment featuring NYU professor Scott Galloway, the hosts dissect statistics about young men:
    • “30% of men under the age of 25 are still at home. One in five are still at home by the age of 30.” (28:06)
    • “45% of men 18 to 24 have never asked a woman out in person. 63% of men under the age of 30 are not even pursuing a relationship.” (30:39)
  • Causes attributed to Big Tech’s manipulation, increasing screen addiction, and the easy dopamine hits from gaming, social media, and porn.

• Consequences and Cultural Commentary

  • Joe Getty: “The greatest minds of our time are trying to addict us to screens for their own nefarious purposes.” (29:00)
  • Jack: “Completely unheard of…absolutely impossible that there would have been one person I would have ever run into a guy my age who wasn't pursuing a relationship” (32:04).

• Reflections on Societal Change

  • Joe: “This is an astonishing change in the natural, most deeply embedded behaviors in a species. Happens to be humans.” (33:12)
  • The hosts explore whether anything other than primal drives (“needing a little”) had ever motivated young men to leave home—humorously, but pointedly.

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4. Government Waste, Reform, & Musk’s Regrets (41:30 – 45:52)

• Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency

  • Jack shares Musk’s regrets about his “Department of Government Efficiency” (DOGE) initiative: “He’s no longer convinced his crusade to clean up government waste…was worth the chaos it unleashed” (41:30).
  • Musk’s realization: “If you stop money going to political corruption, they will lash out big time. They really want to keep the money flowing.” (44:04)
  • Satirical moment about being targeted for reform: “If I hadn’t done that, people wouldn’t be setting my cars on fire.” (44:38)

• Tribalism in Politics

  • The hosts critique bipartisan support for government waste, even “zombie” social programs. Joe: “You cannot, with a straight face, be in favor of government waste.” (46:12)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Candace Owens’ Conspiracies:
  “She believes her saying something must make it true. And then her riff about the moon landings being faked is characteristic…Or her contention that dinosaurs are fake and gay.” – Joe Getty (09:27–10:38)

• On Young Men and Tech:
  “We’ve literally built an economy which is dependent upon our ability to evolve a new species of asocial, asexual males.” – Scott Galloway via Bill Maher (28:21)

  “The anxiety and depression you will eventually feel in your basement sequestered from other mammals is far greater than the fear of anything that lays outside of that room for you.” – Scott Galloway (31:41)

• Historical Simplification:
  “All of history is grossly oversimplified, partly because you almost have to.” – Joe Getty (21:26)

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Key Segment Timestamps

• Media Conspiracies & Candace Owens: 03:58 – 14:45
• Isaac Newton & Alchemy, 1619 Project: 21:00 – 22:32
• Young Men, Tech, and Society: 27:46 – 37:31
• Elon Musk, Government Waste: 41:30 – 45:52

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Tone & Style

The hosts maintain an irreverent, conversational tone, frequently poking fun at themselves, their subjects, and even the structure of their own show. They pivot from deep concern about societal trends to comedic asides, making complex issues approachable and engaging for listeners. The show balances skepticism of media and government alike with constructive, often self-deprecating humor.

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Summary

This replay hour finds Armstrong & Getty at their sharpest, taking aim at the proliferation of conspiracy thinking in American media, the crisis among young men seduced by technology, the perils of historical revisionism, and the futility of reforming government waste. Supported by pointed quotes, memorable sarcasm, and a willingness to question cultural orthodoxy, the episode offers both laughs and food for thought for the curious listener.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and get it. Welcome to yet another fine hour of the Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

To the Ang replay.

[Joe Getty]

We have no interest in getting in, you know, podcasty conflicts with anybody. I don't number one, I don't care. And you know, number two is just unproductive. But I've got to admit I am fascinated by a couple of different media twist offs. Tucker number one. Because I thought so highly of Tucker as a writer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everybody did.

[Joe Getty]

Thinker. Oh yeah, my goodness. So, so good. But he's turned toward this groipery anti Semitism that I find very, very troubling and it's a shame.

[Jack Armstrong]

And why? Because he is already ungodly wealthy.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think he actually believes what he's pitching now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did he always believe that and he was keeping it quiet? Certainly didn't seem like it.

[Joe Getty]

No idea. No, no it didn't. This seems to be some sort of change. The idea of, of fawning over Vladimir Putin and what a wonderful place Russia is is just that is so Looney Tunes. It's difficult to explain by. I mean it's either mental illness or an ideological capture of some sort of. But the, the other character that fascinates me in a weird way is Candace Owens who we met once. We did an. An event with her. Extremely articulate and confident. I think it was rich Larry in the National Review and we'll touch on this in a minute, points out that confident to the point of just being way, way, way over the top.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, we were in a green room with her for 45 minutes, quite a while and it was just Joe, me, her and like her assistant. I think it's like four of us in the room. She was incredibly standoffish, like just not willing to engage in any conversation whatsoever.

[Joe Getty]

And working the phone.

[Jack Armstrong]

But now I know she's a complete weirdo. I mean she's a very strange person.

[Joe Getty]

So here are a couple examples. I don't remember what's in the audio that we're about to play you which is entitled all the questions Candace Owens is just asking which if you're not hip to this is a way that people can say things that are, they know will be greeted as horrifying. But they just say I'm just asking the questions. It's, it's just, it's transparent once you become aware of it. Whether it's a fake historian claiming that Hitler was really a good guy and didn't mean for a few Jews to die or, or whatever. But like, like Kansas, Kansas lately, if you're not familiar with her act is said, and I quote, I'm starting to think that the assassination of Charlie Kirk was something akin to a regicide. Right. The assassination of a king to install a new ruler who the king would never have approved of. And the new ruler of Turning Point USA turns out to be Kirk's widow, Erica Kirk and Owens has argued the Turning Point is covering up its involvement in Kirk's assassination and that Erika Kirk knows everything. She also then she says but it's a vile smear to suggest she's implicated Erica Kirk and her husband's assassination. But she's just asking questions. Why don't we go ahead and play this audio and then we'll follow up. Go ahead Michael. 12.

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They and other influencers will invoke Erica as the reason that it's not appropriate to ask questions. It's just not appropriate while Erica is still mourning for you guys to ask any questions. And I'm just going to come back at you with some common sense. What sort of widow wouldn't want people to investigate the assassination of their husband? Every day that goes on, it feels to me like Turning Point is engaged in a cover up. So criticisms pertaining to anything at Turning Point USA that are being directed at Erica are fair. Obviously they are fair. You are recognizing that the people around Charlie are not acting in the way that they should be acting. That their, their emotionality is not meeting the moment of violence that we all witnessed. Nothing in Charlie's life is real. It's just something that keeps me up at night. Just nothing in his life was real. And it just so happened that Charlie Kirk kept notebooks and diaries. He was so diligent that he wrote down his succession plan featuring who he wanted to take over for the organization in the event of his untimely death. Like, you know, he just. In the third notebook, he was like, oh, and if I accidentally get shot on campus, here's what you should do. Call Erica. And then after you call Erica, come find this notebook. Oh, but wait, Charlie, wasn't he, like, a boy genius? He's a pretty bright kid. Wouldn't he have maybe formalized that succession plan outside of, like, a diary? But no, he wants to put it in these notebooks. And then the plan was to guilt us, I think, to try to haunt us with the ghost of Charlie's notebooks that we're never going to be allowed to read. Yeah, I'm putting the fire here right at the feet of Turning Point, because I am disgusted. I am genuinely disgusted. I am looking around and wondering whether Charlie's entire life was the Truman Show. But I'm starting to think that the assassination of Charlie Kirk was something akin to a regicide. Right. The assassination of a king to install a new ruler who the king would have never approved of. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she's suggesting that these diaries, journals that he kept are fake, I guess that his wife faked him up. Says, see, he wrote it down here. He wanted me to be in charge if he. If something happened to him.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. It's all a little too pad, isn't it?

[Jack Armstrong]

A little hinting that she was involved in having him killed because she wanted.

[Joe Getty]

To say, wait a minute. Are you hinting that she was involved in having him killed? You say that's despicable. How dare you question me? Yeah, it's crazy. As Rich Lowry writes, when Alex Jones was at his height and he hasn't gone away, it felt as though he was in it for the entertainment. He was like the WWE announcer who knows the wrestling is fake and knows that we know the wrestling is fake, but imbues his play by play with a sense of great import all the time. True, I would agree he was despicable, but that was the vibe. Owens is different, to be sure. She's entertaining, too, and he gives some examples. But Owens is more alluring and sinister than Alex Jones. She wants followers not just to sell them the equivalent of supplements, but to gain influence and turn MAGA in a Direction hostile to Israel, Jews and Judaism. Now, it is true that Owens is ignorant of basic things and makes embarrassing elementary factual mistakes all the time. Yet she's very glib. And her credibility as a talker is bolstered by the near sociopathic self confidence of someone who believes her saying something must make it true. And then her riff about the moon landings being faked is characteristic. She kind of knows something about the Van Allen Radiation Belt, which is more than most people can say, but overstates its potential as an obstacle. And she misunderstands how temperature works in space, among other things. Or her contention that dinosaurs are fake and gay. This apparently stems from her wholly erroneous belief that only paleontologists have ever found dinosaur bones, so there must be conspiracy among them to fabricate fossils to under undermine faith in God. Clearly true. And the Jews have a special place in their conspiracies. Harvard is a Mossad base, which Rich writes, highly convenient. One assumes if Israel wanted to carry out an operation against Tufts or Bodoin. Israel was involved in the September 11 attacks. The Holocaust is exaggerated or fake. Elie Weissel is a liar. The Jews carried out the Bolshevik revolution in order to exterminate Christians. The Jews killed JFK and for some reason also Michael Jackson. Stalin was a secret Jew and so was at a Turk. Jeffrey Epstein, of course, was doing Israel's bidding. She hasn't accused the Jews of poisoning the wells, but give it time.

[Jack Armstrong]

And she's portraying. I'm reading her Twitter posts from today. She's portraying it as like she and Charlie were really close. She and Charlie Kirk. Heartbreaking. They really killed my friend. But justice will be served. And. And that she's being attacked for trying to get the truth out about who killed her friend.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Quite a bit, though. Yeah. I got a bunch of examples of. There were actually two shots. The rifle shot was used only to cover up another shot from an unknown assassin at close range. That would be difficult to coordinate. Robinson, the actual shooter's role was to drive around campus assisting in costume changes. Let's see. She heard that Robinson is bewildered by the idea that he carved messages and bullet casings. She also doubts the authenticity of his text messages with his trans Boyfriend. She believes the texts aren't credible because there's no way Robinson would use a fancy word like vehicle instead of car. Rich writes, not only is vehicle not a particularly uncommon word, Owens messes up what she considers to be evidence that cinches the point. In sleuth mode, she says that police body cam footage of Robinson after the car accident shows him using the word car instead of vehicle. But in the course of that very tape, he also says vehicle, and I'm.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pretty slim no matter what.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. And this goes on for a long time about the Jews. Especially about the Jews. There's a couple of pages of this, but that's enough of that. So the broader point that I find really interesting and compelling is how these conspiracy theories work and how do they get people. And I remember when QAnon was big, I read an absolutely fantastic description of how that works. What are the various triggers that the perpetrator of these hoaxes use? And I wish I could find it because it's very straightforward and easy to understand. I got a message.

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta admit, if my conscience would allow me, it'd be pretty fun to do the Candace thing where you just make stuff up and kind of ride this wave of nonsense and keep people pulling up, pulling people along and come up with new wacky ideas. It'd be pretty fun.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, it's a great mental exercise. You get to know the four or five tools of your craft and then you have to react quickly and make new stuff up. It's. It's almost like a creative writing exercise in a way. But anyway, I came across this by Claire Layman and we'll take take a break and come back with it. The New Medievals the bones of conspiracy theories haven't changed through the centuries, though the details are different. How conspiracy theories are right out of the the Middle Ages. Thought this was intriguing. Hope you enjoyed it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then there's the. Also, the other end of it is that certain people that really, really, really want these, I don't want them, but some people do. It makes them feel better. That's its own interesting thing.

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[Michael Scott Galloway]

Mexico by 5% if they don't send.

[Jack Armstrong]

More water to the U.S. smart.

[Joe Getty]

If there's one thing I feel totally confident in, it's water from Mexico.

[Jack Armstrong]

Remember when we learned several years ago that that whole don't drink the water thing is pretty much true anywhere you go in the world just because your body has become accustomed to water here or wherever you live. And when you travel to someplace else, their water is different and often upsets your stomach. And it's not just Mexico, it can be any first world country where that happens.

[Joe Getty]

I'd say I didn't, I missed that or didn't know it or something. I mean, because in Mexico you'll be very, very sick.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it can happen anywhere just because you're not used to. Like the people of Mexico don't get sick from drinking the water because their bodies have accustomed to it, is the theory. I don't know. I didn't do the science, I didn't.

[Joe Getty]

Do the drink water in a lot of places around the world and done fine, but true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Although I've drank water in Mexico and done fine. So. So I was talking about Isaac Newton and alchemy like we always do on Wednesdays. So I, I was on this Isaac Newton cake about a year ago or whatever and read a couple books about him. He's understudied, absolutely fascinating dude. And I get pulled into it actually by this secret stuff we learned about him not that many years ago. Isaac Newton, father of mathematics and then inventor of all these physical principles, you know, laws of motion and all these different things. But his main thing that he had to hide there in England in the late 1600s because the religious climate was religion. He was a very, very devout religious person. But his particular view of the relationship between Jesus and the church and all these different things wasn't what was in favor at the time. And he would have gotten thrown in jail if, if his thinking and writings had been out loud. So he was really into alchemy, which we were taught in school was all about turning lead into gold, which it often was. But that was not primarily the reason for alchemy. And I kind of wonder why books didn't tell us this at the time. I think there's maybe a reason it was mostly a religious thing. It was about. It had to do with the way human beings can change and blood into water and all these different sorts of things fitting in with the Bible and their, their theological beliefs. It wasn't just purely we could take lead, which is easy to find, and turn it into gold and become rich. It was way more a God thing. And I, I think they wanted to downplay that for some reason. Anyway, Isaac Newton, one of the greatest scientists of all time was super into it. He wrote more about this than he did about anything about gravity or anything else. He wrote more about this, but it was hidden and nobody saw the papers until the 1930s. Isaac Newton's papers went up for auction in the 1930s. And because the famous economist Keynes of England, that Keynes is in Keynesian economics, he, John Maynard Keynes, he bid on them, won the Isaac Newton papers and discovered all these writings about all of his theological, spiritual, stuff about alchemy. Nobody knew that Isaac Newton had decided to him until Keynes the economist bought these papers and then wrote a couple of books about it and revealed it to the world.

[Joe Getty]

World.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was more a theologian than he was a into physics. But he had to hide from everyone.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Wow, how interesting. Brilliant guy. Obviously one of the.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of the more.

[Joe Getty]

Well, in my spare times, maybe I'll go ahead and invent modern mathematics.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of the more brilliant people that have ever lived. And the fact that he had to hide all that from everybody and it just fairly recently got discovered by a famous economist, which is interesting.

[Joe Getty]

All of history is grossly oversimplified, partly because you almost have to. Although I just ran into a great unmasking of the Idiot 1619 project and the notion that American slavery was so much worse than we really invented slavery in the United States. Oh my God, our slavery was so much worse than other slavery in other parts of the world. And this obsession with self hatred and it's just not based on fact at all. But if somebody with an authoritative sounding title tells a bunch of youngsters that that's the truth, they believe it. And you can't blame them really. And it's troubling because we've got a couple generations of people with really perverse beliefs about this country and they're 100% certain that they're right. What are you gonna do? Do a better job of policing what's going on in schools, for one thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

No freaking kidding. There's a decent chance that book is being taught in your kids school.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, absolutely. Particularly in blue states. Yeah, it's absolutely obscene.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's horse s. It comes out of the south side of a northbound horse.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, it does. I mean, for one thing, the incredibly tiny percentage of the Atlantic slave trade that ended up in the continental United States. I mean, it's a tiny percentage. The vast majority of the slaves were sent to Central and South America and there's. Well, what time is it? No, we don't have time for this, but maybe we'll get onto that another time. But many, many, many, many more slaves survived in the territory that became the US or in the US than in South America. Which is why they have a lot of descendants here. Because if you were sent to the to clear the jungles of Brazil, you were gonna die. The Armstrong and Getty show get more Jack more Joe podcasts and our hot.

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[Joe Getty]

Maxwell House Coffee temporarily changed its name to Maxwell Apartment to better reflect current times. Though it's much better than their first choice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ghislaine Maxwell House.

[Joe Getty]

So early. Ghislaine Maxwell. What the hell?

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, boy. What do we got coming up, Joe?

[Joe Getty]

Coming up, the young lady at the center of the Matt Gaetz allegations. What actually happened in that story? Nobody ends up looking great.

[Michael Scott Galloway]

Oh, really?

[Joe Getty]

Salaciousness, Florida style.

[Jack Armstrong]

So my son was on a Boy Scout hiking trip over the weekend, as I've talked about a lot since he joined Boy Scouts last March. I am so impressed with that organization. In particular, I'm pin particularly, I'm excited about having an organization out there that's helping young men the way it, the way it clearly is because, man, the whole young men landscape thing, for all kinds of different reasons that we've been talking about for years is a little scary. The fact that being a boy is considered a disease in school and the, the concept of toxic masculinity when you're just being a dude and just all those different things really weird me out.

[Joe Getty]

Well, especially if you've had the misfortune to be born white, then you're seen as the center of all evil as taught in your local elementary school and on on up through the chain of miseducation.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Friday night on his HBO show, Bill Maher had this podcaster, NYEU professor Matt Galloway on and they started talking about men in America and some of the stats around it that are horrifying.

[Joe Getty]

The number of men, I didn't realize this percentage who live at home still live with their parents. What are those numbers?

[Michael Scott Galloway]

It's about 30% of men under the age of 25. One in three are still at home. One in five are still at home by the age of 30.

[Jack Armstrong]

One in five at home at age 30.

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[Jack Armstrong]

He goes on.

[Joe Getty]

Is that economic or emotional or both?

[Michael Scott Galloway]

I mean, effectively what you have is they're up against this indomitable enemy. 40% of the S&P is now 10 companies whose primary mission is to get you as glued to a screen for as long as possible. Any minute they can keep you on a screen longer is billions of dollars. And a young man's brain, which prefrontal cortex is less mature, is more susceptible to that need for dopa. So what we've literally done, Bill, is unwittingly built an economy which is dependent upon our ability to evolve a new species of asocial, asexual males. And what you have is big tech. Who is not our friend is trying to sequester people, especially young people, especially young men, from the most important thing in their life and that is relationships.

[Joe Getty]

I've been trying to say that for years, but not as eloquently as he just did. The greatest minds of our time are trying to addict us to screens for their own nefarious purposes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I'd never heard that before, though. I didn't know, because we all know about the dopamine hits that we get from Ding. A new text, a new headline, a new whatever. I didn't know that young men were more susceptible to the dopamine hit than the rest of us.

[Joe Getty]

Whoa. Well, yeah, it's thrill seeking. That's, that's what thrill seeking is. And whether it's online thrills, you know, I'm. I'm not sure I've ever been so disgusted by an advertisement as I was. And I wish I had the quote in front of me, but it was one of your shooting people in war video games. And, and it was dead serious. Be a hero. A real hero. Call of Warfare 3 or whatever. I was like, that's the opposite of what you freaking are. You're living at your parents home, just play acting, being a hero.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, you wouldn't think there'd be anything at the beginning of this pre Internet if you just started out. We're going to develop a product that'll make young men care about this product more than they care about getting laid.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, good lot of.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just said that's impossible. There's nothing that matters more to young men than. And it turns out you came up with something.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, unless your product is oxygen, it's gonna fail.

[Jack Armstrong]

But they came up with this whole dopamine clicks thingy, that is. Anyway, he goes on, make sure you.

[Joe Getty]

Guys do not miss this stat.

[Jack Armstrong]

So here we go.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Michael Scott Galloway]

45 of men 18 to 24 have never asked a woman out in person. 63% of men under the age of 30 are not even pursuing a relationship.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if you think about it. Stop it, because I want you to start that again so I can pay closer attention. Holy crap. Okay, Here we go.

[Michael Scott Galloway]

45% of men 18 to 24 have never asked a woman out in person. 63% of men under the age of 30 are not even pursuing a relationship. And if you think about the most rewarding things in your life, I mean, the things that really matter, they are essentially relationships. What do they all have in common? They're really damn hard. And unfortunately, Big Tech, the most deep pocketed, godlike technology in the world, is trying to convince young men that they can have a reasonable facsimile of life online. Why go through the pecking order of trying to establish friendships and you got Reddit and discord. Why put on a tie and navigate the corporate world when you can trade crypto or stocks on Robinhood or Coinbase? And why would you go through the effort, the expense, and the potential rejection and humiliation of establishing a romantic relationship when you have porn? I believe slowly but surely we're going to start to see fewer and fewer young men out in the wild because they're going to decide to sequester. And if I could say anything to young men, it's that the anxiety and depression you will eventually feel in your basement sequestered from other mammals is far greater than the fear of anything that lays outside of that room for you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not sure that argument's going to work, but. But that stat. I'm glad he brought up the P word porn. I was wondering, is anybody going to bring that up? He did. Two thirds of men under 30 are not pursuing a relationship. Completely unheard of. When I was a young man, just absolutely impossible that there would have been one person I would have ever run into a guy my age who wasn't pursuing a relationship.

[Joe Getty]

And just under half of 18 to 24 year olds had never asked a woman to go do anything. That's stunning. What's.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's this?

[Joe Getty]

Galloway's first name. Michael Scott. That is Scott Galloway. Okay, yeah, I'm gonna follow him. And. And I like the cut of his jib. He's talking, he's spitting truth, as they say. Wow. This is. How many times have we said this? If this was a different species than Homo sapiens, the scientific world would be on Fire. Talking about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Half of, half of all alligators no longer want to be in swamps.

[Joe Getty]

What? Right, yeah. They're walking wrong along on hind legs and trying to mate with beavers. I mean, this is an astonishing change in the natural, most deeply embedded behaviors in a species. Happens to be humans.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe, maybe the flip side to looking at it is the only thing that.

[Joe Getty]

Was getting us out of the house.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was needing a little. And we wanted it so much, we freaking threw on a tie, we left.

[Joe Getty]

Our home, we went out there, got an education.

[Jack Armstrong]

If we did all these different things just because we needed it so bad. And once you eliminate that need, oh yeah, I'm just gonna stay in my parents basement in sweats for the rest of my life.

[Joe Getty]

That's sad though. It's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course it's sad. And he's, I, obviously he's right. At the end of the road you'll be much sadder than you would be with the pursuit and failure and all the ups and downs of life. But I don't think that your argument's going to work on young people. Just this Your, your time horizon when you're young just doesn't work.

[Joe Getty]

Well, back to the impulsiveness of young people, particularly young men. Although let's not let the, the crazy angry militancy of young women go without being remarked on in this discussion as well. That's.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I've got a couple of teenage boys.

[Joe Getty]

That's different syndrome. But, but still a significant one.

[Jack Armstrong]

But like my high schooler, we spent a lot of time together over the weekend because his brother was on a camping trip and he's gonna be 16 here in a couple of months. And he has the same attitude every 16 year old has or I had. He talks about when I talk about you when you're 30th. When I'm 30, I don't even, I don't even care if I'm alive when I'm 30. Who cares about being 30? I mean 30 is so far off when you're 16, you can't even imagine it. You know, we'll be flying around in cars and all kinds of stuff by the time you're 30, so, so pitching to young people the idea, I mean, I do this, I've done this with my own kids and it seems to be working so far. But pitching the, you know, by the time you're 40, ultimately you'll be sad if you do this. I hope that works.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. You know, it's funny, I was reminiscing with a couple of Buddies that It had been 11 years since we'd played our last show as a rock and roll band. And I thought, Good Lord, 11 years. Then I thought, that's all of high school, all of college and the first three years of your career, which is enormously impactful and is forever in youthful years. You know, to your point, when I'm 30, telling a 16 year old that. Please.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

No, no. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you, if you continue down this path when you're 30, you're going to be unhappy with your choices. I've done work on a lot of people.

[Joe Getty]

There will soon be a religion, a philosophy, and it will be popular. It will be very, very popular. It might be a smallish minority of humans, but. But it will be an anti tech religion ethos that people will latch onto. I think it is building. How widespread it is, I don't know. I am prepared to be your leader. I will not be sexing up your younger women, at least at first. That is my pledge view. Because every one of these insular cult like organizations ends up with the leaders sexing up the young women. So I just figured I'd.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So to the point that half of young adult men have never asked a girl out and 2/3 of men under 30 are not looking for a relationship at all. Imagine being a young woman.

[Joe Getty]

Good lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're a 26 year old. Getting your act together, thinking of having a family someday. Woman. And two thirds of dudes out there are not even thinking about looking for a relationship. Holy crap. No wonder you're holding hands with a girl. You got no choice.

[Joe Getty]

And this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

And this came out of nowhere. This came on so quickly societally, but there's so much money being made, it's propping up the stock market, for instance. Tech in general. This sort of thing is not being said nearly as much as it should be, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael, you. You. You promised our minds would be blown by those stats. You were successful. That is some troubling, troubling stuff.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

Please help me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Please.

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[Joe Getty]

Two, three.

[Jack Armstrong]

What is that you're wondering, That's a bunch of idiots.

[Joe Getty]

It's a bunch of cliffs. Bunch of idiots that should be hurled.

[Jack Armstrong]

Off cliffs and make those noises. It's a bunch of idiots in Portland who get together every week and scream it out how much they hate Trump. Have some kids and you won't have time for this crap.

[Joe Getty]

I don't even have the energy to respond to that. How Portland is that? Oh, and look how enlightened you are. You're screaming about Trump. Why? Because you don't like him and you probably think, what, he's the new Hitler? That's intriguing. Good Lord, I don't even have the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Energy so Elon Musk did an interview yesterday and he was asked about Doge. He gets asked about lots of things because he does lots of things. As the world's richest man, he's no longer convinced his crusade to clean up government waste through the Department of Government Efficiency, better known as Doge, was worth the chaos it unleashed. I can see why he would think that. He's deeply unsure whether his high profile stint running Washington's most memeable agency actually worked, says the New York Post in a wide ranging and at times philosophical interview on some podcast I had never heard of, he said there was like probably 100, maybe $200 billion worth of zombie payments per year, he said, noting Doge shut down only a fraction of it. Those are their payments that are go out for things that either don't exist or shouldn't exist. And everybody knows they shouldn't exist. Haven't been closed down officially yet or whatever. And they got about a, you know, a tiny percentage of it shut down, he said cutting off even that much cash came with serious blowback back. If you stop money going to political corruption, they will lash out big time. They really want to keep the money flowing, he said. He said I wouldn't say I was super illusion to begin with. He was asked if he was disillusioned. I wouldn't say I was super illusion to begin with, he shrugged before launching into a blistering critique of government spending. Despite the heavy political talk, the ex owner frequently veered into the personal. He confessed that that AI nightmares still jolt him awake many days in a row.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, if you're 20% convinced that something you're building is going to destroy humankind, which he is, I could see why maybe you'd wake up worried about that.

[Joe Getty]

I have not had an AI nightmare as yet.

[Jack Armstrong]

I had a radio nightmare last night. What was it? Oh, trying to hook up Some equipment or something like that, trying to get the microphones to work on the show, and I couldn't, or whatever. What does that mean? I've got a lot of loose ends in my life right now. I'm having trouble getting to work the way I want them to work. Family structure and all these different sort of things. It was clearly that I just couldn't get a task accomplished. The frustration of this is not coming together the way I want it to. I think that was.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or I ate spicy food.

[Joe Getty]

There's more of gravy than the grave about you. That's a quote from A Christmas Carol and the nature of diet versus bad dreams.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's two things interesting, I thought, in that Elon Musk interview. One, the fact that he, like lots of people, like lots of normal people who touch Washington, D.C. and have other things to do in their lives, they realize there's no fixing this swamp. You know, there are other people that go there and think, I need to be part of this. That's how I'm going to become rich. And they do. Lots and lots of people. But he's already rich, so he doesn't need to do that. He just. He just gave it a whirl and thought, man, people go nuts when you try to cut anything, including things that are completely worthless. He talks about how, you know, if I hadn't done that, people wouldn't be setting my cars on fire. So I kind of wish I hadn't gotten involved.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you know, it's. I think it's. It's way more interesting than it seems or way more significant than it seems on the. The surface that if I'm part of the. The swamp, profiting from it mightily and spreading out money, enhancing my own wealth and power, fiscal responsibility, even over there, doesn't affect me directly. It's a zombie program. You know, whatever you're gonna fight. It reminds me of the Omni cause, where you got, you know, Native American lesbians standing up for Palestinian terrorists and whatever. You can't let anybody cut anything ever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's a.

[Joe Getty]

Or call for fiscal responsibility. I mean, that is the penicillin that would end your, you know, infection in D.C. sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's an example of. They came for the payouts to dead people, Social Security checks. And I said nothing.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the next thing, they came for.

[Joe Getty]

The Department of the Interior, whatever that does. And I said nothing. Exactly. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

They came for my scam, and there was no one left to fight for me.

[Joe Getty]

It's profoundly discouraging to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, it is. And I forgot to mention this. So I saw this portrayed in a couple of different mainstream organizations is kind of like a. Huh. Huh. He got his kind of.

[Joe Getty]

We showed him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. We showed him. Dare try to step in and cut anything out of the government. What is wrong with you?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's another interesting question. When tribalism leads people to defend the indefensible, I mean literally indefensible, you cannot, with a straight face, be in favor of government waste.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't understand how being a progressive fits in with making sure dead people get their Social Security checks. I don't get it.

[Joe Getty]

It's a knee jerk tribalism like I was talking about. You know, I've got a really, really good, thorough, interesting, thought provoking description of what's going on with the whole Obamacare subsidy debate right now. And it's the sort of coverage you won't get anywhere else. And part of me doesn't want to even bother.

[Jack Armstrong]

Once again, Michael, it's number two, cry for help. Second cry for help in one show.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Cry for I'm through with this crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think we got to do a wellness check.

[Joe Getty]

I'm gonna call someone during the break. Yeah, call anybody you want. Who gives a crap. It's all for not. We'll all be dead soon. Hey, what?

[Show Producer or Announcer]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

Please help me.

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