The A&G Replay Monday Hour Four

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – Episode: The A&G Replay Monday Hour Four
Release Date: November 25, 2024
Host: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In this episode of the Armstrong & Getty Show, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve deep into the evolving landscape of American politics, focusing on the decline of identity politics, the controversial views of RFK Jr. on public health, and a critical analysis of California's political climate with special guest Katie Grimes, Editor-in-Chief of the California Globe.

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Identity Politics in Current American Politics

Jack Armstrong opens the discussion by highlighting a significant shift in political discourse, drawing parallels between the successful debate over gay marriage and the current state of identity politics.

[03:24] Jack Armstrong: "Every once in a while an argument seems to be won in the world of politics... One of the best examples in my lifetime being gay marriage."

Joe Getty echoes this sentiment, emphasizing the fatigue among Americans with identity-driven debates.

[05:19] Joe Getty: "Politics are all about your IMMUTABLE things like your skin color, whether you're a man or woman... that's identity politics."

The conversation brings in insights from political strategist James Carville, who criticizes the entrenchment of identity politics within the Democratic Party.

[04:34] James Carville: "Those ideas... it's going to take another four years before we wash the stench of this off of our clothes."

Sam Harris is also referenced for his critique of identity politics, further reinforcing the hosts' viewpoint that this aspect of politics is waning in effectiveness.

[05:34] Jack Armstrong: "Sam Harris... wrote that the Democrats must recognize that several planks of their platform are thoroughly rotten. Identity politics is over. No one wants it."

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RFK Jr. and Public Health Policies

The hosts shift focus to the controversial figure RFK Jr., dissecting his stance on vaccines and fluoride, and the broader implications for public health.

[17:28] Joe Getty: "COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people... He believes vaccines cause autism."

Jack Armstrong questions the safety and efficacy of vaccines based on RFK Jr.'s assertions, highlighting the polarized views within the political spectrum.

[18:07] Jack Armstrong: "No vaccine is safe and effective. He believes vaccines cause autism."

The discussion underscores the challenges faced by public health authorities in maintaining trust amidst such controversies.

[19:22] Joe Getty: "No doubt became clear, no doubt that they'll listen if we say there are downsides to this."

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California Politics with Katie Grimes

In a segment featuring Katie Grimes, the editor in chief of the California Globe, Armstrong and Getty explore the turbulent political environment in California, particularly critiquing Governor Gavin Newsom's policies.

[23:05] Joe Getty: "Katie, welcome. How are you?"

[24:15] Katie Grimes: "He [Newsom] needs to learn to read the room because he's about as popular as Kamala Harris."

Grimes presents data showing a shift in voter sentiment, with Republicans gaining ground in traditionally Democratic strongholds within California.

[25:42] Katie Grimes: "Republicans flipped at least eight states... Californians are fed up with these ridiculous, horrible, damaging policies."

The hosts and Grimes discuss the tangible impacts of Newsom's policies, such as increased crime rates and economic strains, arguing that these have led to voter disillusionment.

[27:34] Joe Getty: "Gavin's contention is that we have all these challenges and we're dealing with them courageously... But he took a hell of a spanking recently."

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Closing Segments and Listener Interactions

The episode concludes with a lighter segment featuring the "Exhale and Scream Challenge", where the hosts engage with their guest and humorously navigate the challenges of the trend.

[39:21] Jack Armstrong: "I'll do that with one of my kids today for fun."

[40:25] Joe Getty: "I'm just gonna blow out."

This playful interaction provides a brief respite from the intense political discourse, showcasing the show's signature blend of humor and commentary.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jack Armstrong on Identity Politics:
  "Identity politics is over. No one wants it."
  [05:34]

• James Carville on Democratic Platform:
  "It's going to take another four years before we wash the stench of this off of our clothes."
  [04:34]

• Joe Getty on DEI Training and Media Representation:
  "We keep having the same arguments. But every once in a while an argument is won or lost."
  [05:19]

• Sam Harris on Identity Politics:
  "I give Harris credit, she does not bring this up. But this stuff is like smoke on your clothes of a fireplace."
  [04:34]

• Katie Grimes on Gavin Newsom's Policies:
  "Californians are fed up with these ridiculous, horrible, damaging policies."
  [25:42]

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Conclusion

This episode of the Armstrong & Getty Show offers a critical examination of the decline of identity politics in America, the contentious views of RFK Jr. on vaccines, and the shifting political tides in California under Governor Gavin Newsom. Through incisive commentary and expert insights from Katie Grimes, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty provide listeners with a comprehensive analysis of the current political climate, blending serious discourse with moments of levity.

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Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Every once in a while an argument seems to be won in the world of politics or loss, depending on which side of it you are on. Not a lot. Most elections we seem to just go back and forth between an R or a D and we keep having the same arguments. But every once in a while an argument is won or lost. One of the best examples in my lifetime being gay marriage. So thoroughly drubbed by the idea of gay marriage that Republicans just ceased fighting it at all when it became clear that the country had decided that that's what they want. And, and so that then that argument was over and it just doesn't exist anymore. And I'm hoping that maybe that has happened or we're close to it happening with the whole identity politics thing that took off in the mid-90s and has been running this country for a long time. And maybe, maybe because there's a lot of people on the left saying this is not working for us. Starting with, well, not starting with. A whole bunch of different people have said it. Well, this isn't James Carville's. He ran Clinton's campaign really pre identity politics taking hold of the Democratic Party way back in the early 90s. But this is what James Carville has to say about the current state of.

[James Carville]

Things with reference to exotic positions which I call identity politics. If you read the article in New York Times, I said I give Harris credit, she does not bring this up. But this stuff is like smoke on your clothes of a fireplace. You can't wash it off. And those ideas, while it's true, they never said it. You know how many millions of dollars that the Republicans ran on anti identity politics positions that people had taken in a Democratic Party in 2019 and 2020? The answer is a lot. Because you see in politics, the other side gets to play and you got to understand that. And it's going to take another four years before we wash the stench of this off of our clothes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, at least. So identity to politics being your politics are all about your IMMUTABLE things like your skin color, whether you're a man or woman, what you know, you're Hispanic or white or black or all those kind of things are identity politics, your.

[Joe Getty]

Politics, but your place in the world. Are you a good person or a bad person? Can you work here or not? That's all about your immutable characteristics.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sam Harris, who's a lefty, super smart guy, best known, I guess, for being an outspoken atheist, but anyway, he wrote in Substack yesterday, I think there are some lessons that the Democrats really must absorb for what is undeniably a total political defeat. They simply must recognize that several planks of their platform are thoroughly rotten. Identity politics is over. No one wants it. Latinos and blacks don't even want it, as witnessed by the fact that they moved to Trump in record numbers. Trump got a majority of Latino men nationwide and in some counties got a majority of Latino men and women. Even with all that he has said about immigrants from Latin America over the years, things like, they're poisoning the blood of our people. A comedian called Puerto Rico a pile of garbage at a Trump rally, and the entire Democratic machine, all of the liberal media, seized upon it as though a nuclear bomb had just vaporized an American city and nobody cared because people.

[Joe Getty]

Practically the closing argument of the campaign.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, that, that, that will be looked back on him as a mistake.

[Joe Getty]

The numbers. Puerto Rican voters moved strongly toward Trump in a number of different strongholds, including Florida.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because the point is, then I'll get back to the Sam Harris thing is they cared more about what my rent is, what my wages are, how good my school is for my kid, rather than comments about my skin color, race.

[Joe Getty]

Gender, whatever, what particular Caribbean island I'm from.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? There's one species of identity politics that had an enormous effect on this election, and most Democrats don't seem to realize it. Around half a percent of American adults identify as transgender or non binary. That's 1 in 200 people. And yet the activism around the identity has deranged our politics for as long as Trump has been in politics. One lesson that I would be quick to draw from this election is that Americans aren't really fond of seeing biological men punch women in the face at the Olympics. And if that sounds like transphobia to you, you're the problem. Political equality, which should we should want for everyone, does not mean that trans women are women. When Sam Harris is writing that, I gotta believe that that issue is done.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I gotta believe there are people like Sam and the many, many others who are coming out of the woodwork, Bill Maher, among others, that have been on the left and have hesitated at least somewhat to criticize the excesses of their ideological brothers and sisters. But they've been chafing because they know how insane it is. You know, to get back to Carville's point real quickly, he talked about the Democrats didn't really run on identity politics exactly. They kind of soft pedaled it. I suggest that the Republicans weren't running against what the Democrats were running on. The Republicans were running against what the Democrats have done. What people see in their elementary schools and their kids sports and the college campuses and the insanity on the tv.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever else, your workplace and the training you have to take every year.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God, the humiliating DEI training. Folks, trust me when I say with some exceptions, the momentum is on your side. Don't consent to that because it's still going on in some corporations, government offices, where you have to sit there and listen to somebody who's getting $5,000 an hour tell you all white people are evil get up and walk out of that s. Anyway, and just I've been wanting to get to this. I came across an article and it was in the Wall Street Journal, which granted, if you're employing lots and lots of journalists, you have lots and lots of lefties, it's just inevitable. Even if you're the Wall Street Journal. And it's an article about transgender and politics and quote, unquote, transgender rights, which means a guy can play in women's sports or a male rapist can go into a women's prison and rape some more women. And that's portrayed as transgender rights. That's a prejudicial term. Nobody has a right to do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

As Sam Harris said, Americans aren't fond of seeing biological men punch women in the face at the Olympics, either spike.

[Joe Getty]

Volleyballs into their face or what have you or win 850 and counting different medals and awards and college championships and high school championships and the rest of it. I tell you what, folks, it is, for better or worse, an unbelievable example of how a very small but vicious group of people can twist society in ways that you wouldn't think were possible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I was listening to the National Review podcast the other day. They're making the point that the same crowd that managed to turn the tide on gay marriage took a hold of this and thought they could do it again because gay marriage was incredibly unpopular not that long ago. I always point out that in the 2008 election, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party Running against each other. Both stated marriage should be between a man and a woman. That's not that long ago in the Democratic Party, the great Barack Obama was against gay marriage. But the tide turned by pushing because there was it, you know, it was the right side of history. I mean, it turned out, I think we all agree now at all, but most people agree that makes sense. And they thought they could do the same thing with the trans thing. No, you can't. This is nuts.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it professional, like, you know, anything goes sexually. Activists were part of it. But also the postmodern neo Marxist movement, excuse me, got ahead of it or got a hold of it and decided that they could use that energy to overthrow Western civilization in the same way that, you know, Black Lives Matter is trying to. And the rest of it. So that, yeah, they tried to seize that. There's a lot of that sort of mission creep in. Nonprofits like the naacp. They've won all their victories. I mean, they, there's. What else do you want? The Southern Poverty Law center, they won all their victories, but they got a staff and they got lots of people making lots of money. So they kind of morphed into the, yeah, we're anti hate. And then we raised tons of money. And by the way, we're going to identify like half of America as a hate group, no matter what they stand for. And so they just. What are they now? They're. They're a weird, mutated beast to what they used to be. And the quote, unquote, gay rights movement, which used to be lgb, lesbians, gays, bisexual people, which is a very small number of people. But anyway, you know, I ought to be able to do what I want to do and marry who I want to marry. Okay, great. And then they added the T and oh, oh. And that was the point I wanted to get to in the Wall Street Journal article, is they used quotes around certain phrases that I believed in and I wish I had in front of me. I'll find it. But. But they didn't use quotes around transgender, including talking about transgender kids. And I wish I could remember what perfectly reasonable thing they used quotes around. But we now accept that there is such a thing as a 12 year old girl being, quote, unquote, transgender. What does that mean? Is there an agreed upon meaning of that? Or is that an activist's effort to prejudice the argument and therefore Wall Street Journal ought to be in quotes. There's no agreed upon meaning of that term at all. I'll find that. So I can make the contrast all the more clear for you. But the war for the language. Tell you what, we got to fight it every single day. And be aware of when we are duped into using their terminology. Here's something we can all agree on. Warrior Foundation Freedom Station supporting our troops. Our warriors who are transitioning from active duty to civilian life, many of them injured, suffering ptsd, traumatic brain injury, that sort of thing. We've been working with Warrior Foundation Freedom Station for years and they are celebrating their 20 year anniversary. Supporting our warriors. And we're helping them raise money.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Because.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, right, exactly. You get me as a client one time. I've done it once. Not a. Yeah, you're right.

[Joe Getty]

Right. I wonder, am I still a white fella? I better spit in the tube again. No, nobody said that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was my great great great grandmother still kind of really not that interesting. Just a person.

[Joe Getty]

100 years ago, 16 generations ago, there was a Spaniard in the family. I'll be damned. Yeah. Oh, here it is. That's right. The article was how Trump is gearing up for assault on wokeness with the education overhaul, which I do want to talk about, but it uses. It continually puts quotes around the term woke. But then transgender, including talking about little kids is not in quotes. Why is that? Wall Street Journal strikes me as odd as a wordsmith.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's interesting.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So RFK Jr is quite the controversial figure. I mean, I knew that going in, but taking in a bunch of social media over the weekend, there are a whole bunch of you who are really, really, really into the idea of RFK Jr. Taking over the health of America. Like it seems to be among your more important priorities. Now I do agree with. I tweeted this out over the weekend from the Babylon B and the pushback to RFK Jr. Fattest, sickest country on earth concerned new health secretary might do something different. There's a certain amount of truth to that with just anytime you try, anytime there's a giant problem and somebody comes along that's going to interrupt what you have been doing. There's always so much pushback. And we use the example of illegal immigration or the tax code or the way we eat. We got every, every person I know has got a kid with autism or ADHD or anxiety medications they got to take. And we like, we just accept that as okay. I guess times change. I guess every family needs to have a kid who needs to be on drugs. What?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, I agree completely. The question, you know, is, is this guy the right shaker or upper right right. Or is he a nut job? But yeah, it's like the tax code. Oh, we better not change anything. No, no. Nobody in the history, there's no human being ever would think this is a good system, yet you're completely resistant to changing it. To explain, please.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I recognize my logical fallacy that because we're unlikely to change these complicated things, it doesn't mean the first person with any idea to come along automatically should be considered the answer. But before we get to some good stuff about RFK Jr. From the Washington Post, here's him talking about vaccines over the year, keeping over the years, keeping in mind that last week every time a microphone was in his face, he said, no, I'm not anti vax.

[Joe Getty]

COVID 19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. The people who are most immune are as and Chinese.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can you name any vaccines that you think are good?

[Joe Getty]

I think some of the live virus vaccines are probably saw averting more problems than they're causing. There's no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. I do believe that autism does come from vaccines. A mountain of scientific study links autism to early vaccination with certain vaccines.

[Jack Armstrong]

So no vaccine is safe and effective. He believes vaccines cause autism. It's interesting that the, a lot of the pushback from the left on that given the fact that my entire, like, radio career, it's been the parents of Marin county, the super lefties who have been saying autism is caused by vaccines.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, there's like a direct correlation between that belief and. And master's degrees are higher in any given zip code. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So now it's a right wing crazy thing as opposed to it was a left wing crazy thing. But anyway, he also wants to get the fluoride out of the water, which I heard, I still heard yesterday, people saying that's not one of the most successful health programs in world history. Well, their person who writes about this sort of stuff for the Washington Post says RFK Jr's views on fluoride aren't as crazy as you might think, and lists all of the pushback there's been over the years. We've been doing this since 1962, by the way, putting fluoride in the water. And most states have been on board for decades and decades. But there's a whole bunch of countries around the world, like real countries that have decided, no, this is not good. It can cause all kinds of problems. So I just want to point out that on this particular topic, it's not nuts that he's going around saying that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I know. My own personal level of belief in health authorities was seriously damaged by observing everything that happened during COVID No doubt became clear, no doubt that they'll listen if we say there are downsides to this. People won't do it. So let's pretend there are no downsides. Saw it running rampant. That doesn't mean you have to reject everything all the time in a knee jerk way. But yeah, they are willing to trade off good for bad in their perception and then downplay the bad, sometimes to the point of utter dishonesty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, how about the food pyramid throughout my lifetime and the lies around that?

[Joe Getty]

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The Armstrong and Getty Show Tied and Torn apart. I met my Speaking of recent electoral results in which the Democratic Party took a hell of a drubbing. In particular, the more progressive side of it. And anybody who was advocating the wildest of the WOKE policies really took it on the chin. Thank God. It seems like an odd moment for perhaps the most progressive of America's governors to decide, this is my moment. But Gavi Newsom of California did just that with a maneuver or two, which we will discuss with our guest, Katie Grimes, the editor in chief of the California Globe, who has been covering the California State Capitol for ages and ages. Katie, welcome. How are you?

[Katie Grimes]

Good morning, Joe. Good morning, Jack. I'm well. I'm especially well after the election.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'd imagine so. I love the headline, your recent piece, Gavin Newsom is attempting to play on a stage well above his pay grade. Would you agree? It seems like an odd moment for WOKE Gavin to decide this is my time.

[Katie Grimes]

Yeah, he needs to learn to read the room because he's about as popular as Kamala Harris.

[Jack Armstrong]

I understand the wanting to be the first in as the leader of the resistance for the, you know, the nomination of a Democratic candidate for 2028. He wants to be the first name out there. But this whole fighting on a couple of areas that seem to be thoroughly beaten, at least in this most recent re election. What's he thinking?

[Katie Grimes]

You know, you ask a really good question, because I don't have an answer for that. I don't think the way he does, thankfully, because he's just a full blown narcissist. And I think part of the problem is a he has no interest in governing and he has no clue in governing. So his natural inclination is to pivot to something that's going to get him some media headlines. And so claiming to fight Trump is going to certainly provide him some headlines in our lefty media.

[Joe Getty]

So you've made your career covering California and California politics for folks listening around the country. What has the trend been in California? And you can pick whatever item you want. But I'm struck by the illustration in your piece in the California Globe of the presidential results by county from 2020 to 2024, for instance.

[Katie Grimes]

Yes. Yes. Isn't that. Boy, there's nothing like a good visual. So it looks like in this election, Republicans flipped at least eight states that we know of right now. And that's only with 72% of the votes counted. Some are saying it might, yes, it might be as many as 10 counties flipping to the red. And so that's why that visual is so lovely. My point in this is even Californians are fed up with these ridiculous, horrible, damaging policies that frankly, they're harming people In California, whether it's the increase in crime or withholding water to our agriculture or, I mean, the lousy schools, even lefties are tired of this. Because lefties, while they might vote very left in California, they live like Republicans. They're tight with a buck. They want their kids to go to good schools. They do care about the roads in which their rims are getting bent on. There's all kinds of things. And, of course, the crime just is in everybody's face.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's funny you mention that. My car's in the shop for a week because I cracked my wheel on a pothole because of our crappy, crappy roads. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So it is interesting to see that there is a limit to how long people will put up with the same party despite the results.

[Katie Grimes]

Yeah. And I think what we're. What we're talking about are same people, maybe people who don't pay a lot of attention to politics day in and day out the way we do, but they know what's happening right outside their front door. And, you know, in this case, it's a lot of crime. It's really lousy maintenance in their cities and counties. You know, everything just. In California, we're starting to look like a third world country in many places. And this is supposed to be, you know, the Golden State.

[Joe Getty]

And Gavin's contention is that. And he's utterly a con man, his contention is that we have all these challenges and we're dealing with them courageously and creatively as if these challenges came out of nowhere, as if they fell like rain. And all of a sudden you got a million bums and junkies on the streets as if they're not a result of the very policies that he's espoused. But, I mean, he took a hell of a spanking recently, and the voters overwhelmingly approving Proposition 36, which overturned the disastrous Proposition 47. You'd think he'd wake up and smell the discontent.

[Katie Grimes]

Yeah, he has no ability to do that. And I think that shows his unbridled narcissism. All he can see, he's got tunnel vision and he's focused on national politics next. That's where his career was supposed to take him. So, by golly, he's going to shove Josh Shapiro out of the way as fast as he can.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah. He wants to jump ahead of Josh Shapiro and a number of other people out there. Kamala Harris. Well, does Kamala Harris have any future, or is she just done.

[Katie Grimes]

That's hilarious. I just published an article this Morning. And I titled it. Are you kidding? Berkeley poll reports California voters want Kamala for governor.

[Todd Gordon]

No.

[Katie Grimes]

This is an absolute last gas attempt by Berkeley and the Los Angeles Times to try to see if her fledgling political career could be saved.

[Joe Getty]

I just. That's. That's unimaginable. That hit me like a blow.

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta take a knee real quick. I.

[Joe Getty]

Are you skilled in the arts of karate or what?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's like, out of me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I can't even imagine that. So once again, for people who are listening around the country or may not be familiar, can you give us the nickel version of Gavin Newsom's energy policies? And just. And as Katie talks, perhaps, folks, you can imagine this being implemented nationwide.

[Katie Grimes]

Yeah, Actually, what Gavin Newsom is doing is imposing unbelievable regulations on our oil and gas industry. We're not fracking for natural gas in California, even though we sit on top of the world's largest gas reserves. So he's trying to restrict all this. He's forcing oil and gas companies to withhold, pull back some of their oil and gas, and it's going to lead to even higher gas prices. His California Air Sources Board, that's the regulatory agency for our global warming policies, just passed a little amount to at least a 65 cent additional tax on top of our highest gas prices in the entire country. So what he's doing is creating shortages of everything, including water delivery. I mean, it's hard to make this stuff up. It's almost like the UN Is running Gavin Newsom and California because nobody in this state wants to live like this, and yet these morons are still voting for this.

[Jack Armstrong]

So is there any chance that he's not actually angling to be the nominee in 2028? That he's trying to get some other really lucrative gig, like an Al Gore type lifestyle or something? I mean, is it just a money grab that I don't quite understand yet?

[Katie Grimes]

It's about power and money. I wrote right before the election, an article about how the only thing he really has left to focus on is his climate change chop. And so he's trying to pivot to become the next Al Gore on the national.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's a lot of money in that. There's a lot of freaking money at that. And you don't have the scrutiny of politics.

[Katie Grimes]

Exactly. And you don't have to. You don't have to produce anything. There's no results necessary. You just go around and blather on about climate change, this and that, and carbon emissions. And for some reason, the media buys it hook Line and sinker.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy.

[Joe Getty]

Katie Grimes is the editor in chief of the California Globe. Katie, I picture Gavin announcing officially for president the presidency within a couple of years. We will organize a March of all 40 million Californians from California to D.C. kansas. You're going to need to stock up on avocado toast, but we will march to D.C. and declare America. Please don't do this to yourselves. Please don't. We've linked Katie's a couple of recent pieces up top at the hot links at Armstrong&getty.com if you want to take a read. Katie, great to talk to you as always. Keep fighting the good fight.

[Katie Grimes]

Thanks. Great to be with you guys.

[Joe Getty]

Always fun. Thanks. Yeah, just, you know, I don't want to embarrass Katie or anything, but she was, she was a fairly mainstream to left leaning journalist who just prized old school journalism. Telling the truth. And she has gone from, you know, absolutely, you know, tolerant and sympathetic toward kind of the center left to being aghast at what she's seeing in her home state, as so many are.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I think this is my current working theory that he's not actually angling to be the 28 nominee, that he's trying to raise his Q factor, his name and everything like that, just in progressive circles and become something that makes him a lot of money for a long time. Al Gore style.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, he's calculating enough that I still say he is absolutely fully turgid aroused for the idea of the White House.

[Jack Armstrong]

I say that I think you are enjoying the imagery is what's going on.

[Joe Getty]

Shakespeare had sexy stuff in his place too, and he's worshiped. So anyway. But you do make an interesting point. He's calculating enough that that's his main goal, but he's positioning himself in such a way that other goals are pursued at the same time. Yeah, he's really, in a word, evil. An evil human being.

[Jack Armstrong]

So dogecoin, different than bitcoin, but also a cryptocurrency, has now as of today jumped 20% since Trump announced Elon and the DOGE group, or whatever they're going to call it, DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency. So because it's named the same as their cryptocurrency, there are people invested in the cryptocurrency.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the general friendliness toward cryptocurrency plus the branding wise, that helps.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I got to figure out the timing on this. Like yesterday I thought it too late. If I had invested in bitcoin yesterday, I'd be significantly wealthier today. Damn it.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So to paint the picture for you, it's Trump and Biden all smiles in blue suits and red ties sitting there in front of a roaring fireplace there in the Oval Office. And Biden's good at that whole back slapping, we're pals thing he's been doing for since before most of us were born.

[Joe Getty]

And that's probably the only thing he's good at.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's really his only. And Trump, of course, is joining the fact that he has defeated that side thoroughly. First time they've been together since the debate that ended Biden's career. Oh my God. Trump probably never been as happy in his life than sitting next to this guy that he so thoroughly trounced having.

[Joe Getty]

On the way out, he slaps Biden on the back and says, remind Hunter to pay his taxes, huh? See you around. The Armstrong and Getty Show. Get more Jack, more Joe podcasts and.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Katie, you're gonna have to explain to us what the hell this is we're hearing here.

[Joe Getty]

Why do I feel like attack?

[Katie Grimes]

So apparently there's this Internet trend going on, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

An Internet trend, you say it's an Internet trend.

[Katie Grimes]

And apparently if you exhale all the way, get all the air completely out of your lungs and then you try.

[Joe Getty]

To scream, you make some form of.

[Katie Grimes]

A noise like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, gotcha. The exhale and scream challenge. I'll do that with my kids today for fun.

[Chris Wilner]

Yeah, Take a video, let us know how it goes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll do it with one of my kids. My high school kid is no longer interested in anything whims. He's just glum Teenager. Yeah. What?

[Joe Getty]

The official uniform of teenager. The whole reason I brought disgust. I wanted to see if Michelangelo could do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael, do that for us on mic. Exhale completely, then try to scream. Okay. Will you do that for us? Here we go. Here we go.

[Joe Getty]

So you took you in.

[Jack Armstrong]

You didn't. You didn't exhale enough either. Completely exhale.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't inhale.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't out.

[Joe Getty]

No, then you. You blew out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then you took a breath.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, let me blow. I'm going to just do nothing but blow out completely. Yeah, don't take a breath in. No, you took it.

[Jack Armstrong]

You inhaled again.

[Joe Getty]

I. I am just. Never mind, never mind. I don't understand. Understand. I'm just blowing out.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's how I excel.

[Joe Getty]

What do you want? I'm not inhaling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then do not take a breath.

[Joe Getty]

You are taking.

[Jack Armstrong]

The fact that you're not following these instructions is all my life.

[Joe Getty]

I'm just gonna blow out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Okay, Katie, we gotta go.

[Joe Getty]

No, we're not gonna go through this again, Michael. I think. Michael, you blow out, you go and then you go and then you scream. You're not supposed to.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's an leave out the last try.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so just blow and scream.

[Jack Armstrong]

But. But don't.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. All right. Okay. All right, we're through here. So earlier. Earlier.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, Katie, for the podcast, you need to do it because I want to hear you try to do it. Okay?

[Joe Getty]

Okay. You Know, the. The only thing I took away from that is how incredibly inf. Infectious laughter is listening to those numbskulls try to do the numb skullish challenge of the day, right? But they're all laughing, so you just can't help but, you know, giggle.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here is a professor at the University of Kansas, where I spent a year in grad school. Poorly. I don't know what class he's teaching here, but somebody got out their cell phone. He's doing this in the little lecture room in front of a bunch of students.

[Joe Getty]

I can't believe it.

[Jack Armstrong]

But here you go.

[Joe Getty]

That's what frustrates me. There are going to be some males in our society that will refuse to.

[Steve Post]

Vote for a potential female president because they don't think females are smart enough to be president.

[Joe Getty]

We could line all those guys up and shoot them. They clearly don't understand the way the world works.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did I say that? Scratch that from the recording.

[Steve Post]

I don't want the deans hearing that I said that.

[Jack Armstrong]

We missed the very first part of that where he's. He's in a conversation when somebody put starts their cell phone where he's saying, people who think that men are smarter than women. So why is he having that conversation anyway? Who thinks either way, that either gender is, as a whole, smarter than the other? That's just a dumb premise to start with. And then he goes into, there are people that won't vote for Kamala Harris because they don't believe women are smart enough to be. Who thinks that? How many people do you know thinks that?

[Joe Getty]

What are you talking about? Katie, feel free to weigh in. But as a guy who loves and cherishes women in every part of life, the male who has to prostrate himself talking about women are so much smarter. Men are so dumb. Women are smarter. You are pathetic. You should turn in your genitals, sir. And I use that term loosely. That's pathetic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Two points.

[Chris Wilner]

One, I hate nothing more than a male feminist.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's awful.

[Katie Grimes]

Second, this guy's name is Philip Locock.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no, it's not.

[Kyle Rickey]

It is.

[Joe Getty]

No, I'm like, yes, it is. How did that escape me?

[Katie Grimes]

And he's a lecturer in the department.

[Joe Getty]

Of Health, Sport and Exercise Science.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

You know, good urologist could probably help you with your problem there, mister.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or a support garment.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, how low is it?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's support garment that gets that thing up where you need it to be.

[Joe Getty]

You gotta change your name, don't you?

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't want it down around your knees. You want her up here waist level.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, maybe many generations of Lowcock settled the west and made Kansas the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fabulous state that it is today.

[Joe Getty]

You gotta change your name. I'm sorry, with all due respect to great grandfather Locock in the work he did and prohibition and Grandpa Locock and is how he, you know, opened the first bank of Salina or whatever. You gotta change your name.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you know, maybe I should have more sympathy. He grew up with that name. Probably many endless jokes like we're doing now and it drove him to being a male feminist where he has to overreact the other direction or something.

[Joe Getty]

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