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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now he's Armstrong and Getty. Trump loves these.
Unnamed Contributor
These rich Arab guys. They set up a mobile McDonald's there. A little different over there than McDonald's. The. The happy Meal toy is a little bone saw. Made me laugh.
Jack Armstrong
Did you write him that joke?
Unnamed Contributor
Here's the funniest thing. I thought that happened on the Saturday Night Live open with the guy who does Trump. He was talking about. Anyway. Abu Dhabi. Abu Dhabi.
Jack Armstrong
Abu Dhabi. Do like the late, great French Flintstone.
Unnamed Contributor
That was so funny.
Jack Armstrong
Oh boy.
Unnamed Contributor
The late, great Fred Flintstone. So I saw the news yesterday that they were going to have a voting session on the big Beautiful bill at 10 o' clock Sunday night. And because it's the weekend and I'm a normal human being, I didn't like take a second to look into that because I thought, what the hell kind of a procedural deal is a Sunday night at ten o' clock thingy? But I just did see that the four holdouts went along with whatever and it passed. So there you go.
Jack Armstrong
The four holdouts went along with whatever is a pretty good description of it. I will be a bit more detailed and this is the reason I'm disgusted and embittered. This is the most sausage of sausage making. If you're familiar with the the old reference to politics, here's your headline from the wapol. I'm going to read you just a little bit because it's kind of revealing of at least a couple of things. Trump's Tax and Immigration bill clears hurdle after late night vote the House Budget Committee passed a massive tax and immigration package central to President Trump's agenda late Sunday, overcoming opposition from hardline conservatives. Overspending four fiscal conservatives, all deficit hawks aligned with the ultra conservative House Freedom Caucus changed their vote to present allowing the legislative monstrosity. I injected that package to be recommended favorably to the House by a vote of 17 to 16. But their hesitance to vote for the one big beautiful bill act out of committee is a reminder that the far right flank of the Republican conference remains skeptical.
Unnamed Contributor
I think I see where you're going here.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Now it could just be your typical WaPo journalistic bias, although the WaPo has improved somewhat lately. A little bit. Anyway, I think it's unfortunately closer to true than I'm comfortable with that there are only a handful of like lunatic hardliners who are against the following headlines. This is from the Richard Rubin writing in the Wall Street Journal. The stark math on the GOP tax plan. It doesn't cut the deficit. It grows the deficit. The Republican Party with both houses of Congress and the White House are going to grow the deficit. It's undeniable. Next headline national Review. Republicans should stay the course on reducing Medicaid spending. They're not going to. They're running in the other direction. Partly because the incredibly smart calculating. What is he up to? Josh Hawley of Missouri is all of a sudden this is the guy now who led the charge to repeal Obamacare. He's now out Schumering Schumer, saying that the the party's Wall street wing, a noisy contingent of corporatist Republicans want to slash health insurance for the working poor.
Unnamed Contributor
Yeah, he's we mentioned that on Friday. He wrote that op ed piece that the Republicans need to back off cutting Medicare any.
Jack Armstrong
Well, it's a reform of Medicaid. Any reforms are a hidden tax on working poor people. And he's referring to a $35 copay for able bodied adults covered by Obamacare Medicaid for a Visit to the doctor. $35 copay is some sort of hidden tax on working poor people.
Unnamed Contributor
And that's just the calculation that Republicans are now the party, the working class and they feel like they got enough working class that are on Medicaid that they Josh Howley at least doesn't want to mess with it.
Jack Armstrong
And a. Yeah. Now the party of pandering to and writing checks to people to win their votes.
Unnamed Contributor
Well, I was going to say that it's interesting they call these people ultra conservative or right wing when not very many years ago you would have been the center of the Republican Party. I mean that would have, I mean that's like what the Republican Party was. It was, it was, it was a term you would have used to define the party.
Jack Armstrong
In fact, it was so intrinsic to the Republican Party you'd feel silly even repeating what you just repeated. Right.
Unnamed Contributor
That they're no need fiscally conservative. But I suppose in reality, given where most of the party is, they are ultra right wing or ultra conservative because the bulk of the party doesn't care apparently and apparently not voters.
Jack Armstrong
So spending your Children, grandchildren into tax and spend oblivion.
Unnamed Contributor
Well, all right. Well, this story got repeated a lot over the weekend that we got downgraded on one of our credit scores by one of the major organizations that does that sort of thing.
Jack Armstrong
Organization, yeah.
Unnamed Contributor
And over the weekend it kind of got put out there that it was like a Trump thing because of tariffs or whatever. It was basically around the fact that our debt is just so high. It's just like what happened to you if you go to the bank and, and, and they take a look at your, well, you've got, with your car payments now you bought like eight cars and two houses and you're just, you're just overmaxed.
Jack Armstrong
So we have $80,000 in credit card bills and you only make 90 a year.
Unnamed Contributor
Right, right. So they just downgrade, just spend more than you make. That's what happened. That didn't happen just in the last hundred days under Trump. We've been building this for a long time.
Jack Armstrong
And the final reason I am completely embittered about the Republican Party and politics and America and democracy and life on earth is, is the fact that, and it's a, it's a two part horror show. Part number one is that there are a bunch of swing district Republicans from big blue states, California and New York, most notably, who are not only trying to defend the idea of the salt deduction, the state and local tax deduction, they want to raise it from $10,000 to at least $30,000 and maybe $50,000. Meaning if you live in a tax and spend lunatic state like say California, all of those incredibly high taxes you're paying, you can deduct from your federal tax return. So the other states will subsidize the tax and spend lunacy of New York and California.
Unnamed Contributor
So my brothers in Kansas pay some of my taxes because I live in California. That makes sense.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. You get a giant subsidy from the other states, you pay a lower federal tax rate, significantly lower, depending on, you know, how much money you make than folks in fiscally responsible states as indefensible. Morally, it's indefensible as a, for Republican reason, not the party. But the idea of we have a federal system, then states and the states can do what they want and they should do what they want. It's fine. If Massachusetts wants to have a 65% income tax, go ahead. I'm not living there, but go ahead. But then to transfer that profligacy to the other states, it's a horror. And as a conservative slash Republican, he says, trying not to vomit because of my embitteredness. The idea that that is a plank of the Republican Party. I'm done.
Unnamed Contributor
It's. It's hard to swallow. I mean, it. You know, it would help Joe and I if this happens financially, but it's awful. Absolutely awful. You. I believe you can't defend it.
Jack Armstrong
No, it's, it's, it's, it's. I am horrified. I don't care how much it would benefit me. God bless me, have principles. It's really held me back in life. Jack too. I just, I. I'm done. I'm done.
Unnamed Contributor
Yeah, it's. Well, like. Like I said last week, Sarah Isger of the Dispatch, I heard her on a podcast. They were having this discussion about parties and she said there are no political parties. What are we talking about here?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I need to seek that out because I think she nailed it.
Unnamed Contributor
Absolutely 100%. There are no political parties. There's just whoever emerges as the candidate cycle by cycle and then whatever they believe the party goes along with. And it's true on both sides. So the idea that there are parties that stand for something, we need to all move past that.
Jack Armstrong
From my hero, H.L. mencken. Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. It's always been true. There was a time when a certain party had certain principles that I admired.
Unnamed Contributor
Do you have.
Jack Armstrong
Time has passed. You know what my. My high school sweetheart, college sweetheart, my wife of 40 years is. Is when she's not turning tricks, she's killing people for the mob. Okay? She's not the woman I fell. This is, by the way, a fictional illustration has nothing to do with my beloved bride Judith. This. She's not the person she was. Forget it. It's over. So move on, get out, get an AI girlfriend like a normal person and a love bot or something.
Unnamed Contributor
A high girlfriend like a normal person.
Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
A high school school female athlete did something very courageous the other day. She didn't let coming in second to a male born dude transgender competitor. It's a dude. Prevent her from standing in the top spot at the podium during the stack in the state track and field meet in Calunicornia. Of course. This 16 year old Reese Hogan was crowned runner up in the triple jump at the CIF Southern Section finals on Saturday. Despite setting a new personal record for herself and beating all of the girls, she lost first place to a dude who beat everybody else by like four feet or something like that.
Unnamed Contributor
How does the crowd not go nuts? How are the parents not like screaming so loud they can't have the ceremony. I would be as a dad.
Jack Armstrong
This is ridiculous.
Unnamed Contributor
What are we doing? I would be screaming.
Jack Armstrong
I think some people hesitate because they don't want to target the confused adolescent boy who is convinced he's a girl.
Unnamed Contributor
I don't think that way of handling it is working.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I would agree. But. So anyway, they went to take the pictures and junior trans athlete. It's a boy. Just say boy. This person of Jerupa Valley who won titles in the girls long jump and triple jump. Congratulations, sir. Well done. Posed with competitors take pictures on the podium. But as the athletes cleared off, Ms. Hogan seized the moment, walked to the first place spot, smiled and posed proudly for a picture as the girl who actually won.
Unnamed Contributor
I would like to know how the crowd reacted during that cheering.
Jack Armstrong
With great lust and happiness. Not a huge crowd. But the folks there who saw that was happening. By the way.
Unnamed Contributor
I understand.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. The fella who. Who quote unquote won the race. As everybody's up there taking the official pictures. Holding up a number one to make it extra galling again.
Unnamed Contributor
It's tough to attack a child who.
Jack Armstrong
Is clearly got a. An emotional slash mental problem and a wiener. That's correct. Yeah. Hence my transition. Anyway. Riley Gaines pays. Praised Reese Hogan on social media saying this is the way. Congrats to Reese Hogan. The real championship. When the boy got off the podium, she assumed her rightful spot as champion. And the crowd erupts with applause.
Unnamed Contributor
That's a good way. That's. That's a good way to handle it. And better than my way of shrieking at the top of your lungs. That should become the standard. You do the little ceremony. It's mostly quiet because the freaking insane adults who go through with this and feel like they need to. You people are insane. Do you realize how crazy you are? Anyway.
Jack Armstrong
Cruel to girls too. You're cruel to women and girls. Oh, one more cruel. But after.
Unnamed Contributor
This should become the standard. After the insane adults run the thing. The second place girl always gets to the top of the podium and then the crowd goes wild.
Jack Armstrong
That would be perfect point of contention. She's the first place girl anyway. I know what you mean. Exactly. Finally one more blanking note that'll make you want to ball up your fists and throw dogs with somebody. Ms. Hogan was a number of high school girls athletes in California who protested at the section prelims by wearing protect girls sports shirts. That's all it said. The shirts were opposed by Officials who allegedly made Hogan and others remove them if they wanted to compete in the postseason track meet.
Unnamed Contributor
Where are the parents? Making a bigger noise out of this.
Jack Armstrong
And I get why the gals go ahead and compete because they can say, officially I got second place, but the first place was transgender. Can I have a scholarship to your university, please? And the coaches say, oh, one of those. Okay, so I get why they go ahead and compete, but I would love to see more boycott.
Unnamed Contributor
And I shouldn't be so flippant. I mean, I am a parent of a high school kid. It would be a tough decision because you think, okay, am I going to make this about me in the political issue? Or I'm going to let. Or am I going to let my daughter have her one chance ever in her life to compete in this high school track meet, blah, blah, blah, without making it all about me, which it would turn into if I start, you know, throwing a fit.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. So one final story. Back to Tech Beat. Do we have theme music, Michael, for Tech Beat? Probably not. I forgot I was going to do these two stories back.
Unnamed Contributor
That's one of your greatest. It's one of your greatest ever.
Jack Armstrong
Screen readers, please welcome to Deck B. So finally, the Chicago Sun Times had a big piece with a great summer reading list. Summer reading list 25 suggested reading. Tidewater by Isabel Allenda, among other titles. A multi generational saga set in a coastal town where magical realism meets environmental activism. Allenda's first climate fiction novel. And explores how one family confronts rising sea levels while uncovering long buried secrets. Don't get hung up on that. It also reading. It also suggests reading the Last Algorithm by Andy Weir, another science driven thriller by the author of the Martian. This time the story follows a programmer who discovers that an AI system has developed consciousness. Blah, blah, blah. Here's the hang up. It's not the hang up you think it is. Here's the hang up. Neither of these books exist and many of the books on the list either don't exist or were written by other authors than the one they're attributed to. They used AI to generate the list and it did the hallucination thing.
Unnamed Contributor
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, wow.
Unnamed Contributor
You could generate the book in a second if you wanted to. Hey, AI, write a book with this title, with this theme and it would write it for you.
Jack Armstrong
But that'd be a good cover up because the guy who composed, composed this. The editor or whatever is apologizing and saying, I do use AI for backgrounds, but I always check the material first. This time I didn't. I Can't believe I missed it. It's obvious. No excuses on me. 100%. I'm completely embarrassed. Which is a hell, the guy came clean. But you're right, that's all he had to do. Wait a minute. Quick, quick.
Unnamed Contributor
Write it.
Jack Armstrong
Write a book called Tidewater by Isabella Linda. Here's the plot.
Unnamed Contributor
It reminds me of one of my kids when they were little who for some reason had this thing where instead of ever saying I don't know would come up with an answer like they thought they had to.
Jack Armstrong
Ah, yeah.
Unnamed Contributor
And. And would like fabricate some answer and then I would figure out what.
Jack Armstrong
What.
Unnamed Contributor
Why did. Why did you just say I don't know? I don't know. I thought you needed an answer. Like what?
Jack Armstrong
It's a real failing to say you don't know.
Unnamed Contributor
Yeah, and that's what AI does.
Jack Armstrong
It is like a little kid. Yeah, you're right. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty the Armstrong and Getty show.
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Unnamed Contributor
So the New York Times headline is FCC releases 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris. Remember, she did a big sit down in 60 minutes leading up to the election got a lot of, a lot of scrutiny because while she very rarely answered questions and when she did, it was nonsensical, so it always got a lot of scrutiny. And then we all found out like the next day or very soon thereafter that there was some editing in the promos and this and that, and did they cut one of her answers to make it make her seem less crazy and all that sort of stuff that was out there in the world. But so this 60 Minute, this story from the New York Times today, again, FCC, the, the FCC released this. Not, I mean, they made CBS get it. FCC releases 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris. The complete interview, which is at the center of a lawsuit filed by President Trump, shows that 60 Minutes aired a concise version of Ms. Harris's answer on Israel. Thought it was interesting that the New York Times went with that as kind of the sub headline because if all you look at is that, you certainly come away with the Trump was right, they were wrong. They were trying to screw him. I think that's the way most people are going to take that story. This is the way CBS presented it.
Jack Armstrong
Now to some news about CBS itself. 60 Minutes has posted on cbsnews.com transcripts and videos from its interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris that aired back in October. The FCC had requested these materials as part of an investigation into a complaint alleging, quote, intentional news distortion, close quote. The issue concerns one question about whether Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was listening to the Biden administration. CBS News broadcast a longer portion of Harris's answer on Face the Nation and then a shorter excerpt of the Same answer on 60 Minutes. In a statement, 60 Minutes said the transcripts and video show, quote, the 60 Minutes broadcast was not doctored or deceitful, close quote, adding that each excerpt reflects the substance of the vice president's answer.
Unnamed Contributor
Which is a better story, a better explanation of it than they're probably not happy at cbs the way the New York Times boiled it down to one sentence.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I guess I mean, more concise, isn't it doesn't strike me as that judgmental either way, honestly.
Unnamed Contributor
New York Post version uncut and we're about to play the actual clips, but uncut 60 Minutes Kamala Harris interview reveals word salad responses were heavily edited by 60 minutes snipped Israel answer to just 20 words. Kamala Harris gave a 179 word meandering answer on Israel. That 60 minutes cut to 20 words according to the transcripts released yesterday.
Jack Armstrong
Wow, that's some editing.
Unnamed Contributor
179 word answer to 20 words. Now, as executive producer, Hansen has been talking about as a guy who's produced lots of different kinds of radio shows and sports highlights and all kinds of different stuff. That's what we do all the time, the media business.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, you have to, you have.
Unnamed Contributor
To for all kinds of reasons. Time keeping people's attention, jazzing it up, making it punchy. The, the, the issue really seems to be to me that in this particular case, the number one knock on the candidate was they couldn't answer a question without going into word salad mode. I mean, that was like one of the key questions with her.
Jack Armstrong
Right. A campaign issue. But what question are we asking here? And I'll tell you the reason I asked that. I mean, CBS is wildly biased. Wildly. And I think most people know it. This lawsuit is nuts. It'll be dismissed very, very quickly.
Unnamed Contributor
Well, so you're going to the legal thing. I don't care about the legal thing. I think politically it's going to be damaging, absolutely damaging to the media. 60 Minutes and be sort of a win for Trump, I think. And Trump doesn't think he's going to win the lawsuit. I don't think.
Jack Armstrong
Oh no, I think he just wants people to talk about.
Unnamed Contributor
Although getting back to the New York Times article, right. And we're talking about it in a way that suggests that 60 Minutes did edit the answer to make her look better, which, you know, I'm sure he's very happy with. But farther down in the New York Times article about this, 60 Minutes argues that it did nothing wrong. It's common practice for news organizations to edit, blah, blah, blah, blah. Getting into the legal part of it, I want to get this because this is really good. Mr. Troop's lawsuit has led to angst at CBS where many staff members believe that any settlement would be a symbolic concession to the president and an acknowledgment of wrongdoing by 60 Minutes. Bill Owens, the executive producer of 60 Minutes, said Monday in a meeting with staff that he would not apologize to Trump as part of any settlement with the network work. But it looks like that's probably what's going to happen. Cbs. CBS is going to pay something to get this over with and include, and wants to include an apology. But the guy involved said, I'm not apologizing. And they, and the, the staff that works there, we've heard this over and over again, right? New York Times, 60 Minutes, all these, all these different left leaning organizations. The staff gets all upset. We can't have, we can't give an inch on any of these things. The people at the top or the lawyers often have a different point of view of we need to settle this. It's only going to get more expensive. People settle these kind of things all the time.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. On the other hand, if they do, I'll be really disappointed. You can't settle it.
Unnamed Contributor
I'll be interested to see if they do or not. I was having this conversation with my kids the other day about why lawyers recommend settling things when you did nothing wrong. It's just a dollars and cents question. Often.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. If I were a smarter lawyer than their lawyers, I'd say you're going to be handling one of these suits every week and a half to, I don't know, four days if you settle this. Oh, you edited it, made me look bad or made me unhappy. No, you can't settle this suit.
Unnamed Contributor
Yeah, I wonder, I wonder where it's going or how it's going to turn out. But anyway, let's play the clips, the actual clips. So this is one version of the question and answer clip 71 there between Bill Whitaker and Kamala Harris. But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening. Well, Bill.
Jack Armstrong
The work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
Unnamed Contributor
I'm mostly reminded, listening to that, what a dope she is. She was a dope. But here's the same question, different answer. But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.
Jack Armstrong
We are not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end.
Unnamed Contributor
Boy, that's a tough one. I mean, not the legal part, I'm not interested in that part. But that's a tough one from a, like, even a news standpoint. I mean, because normally, yeah, you're interviewing, whether it's a politician or a coach or whoever, you try to. You just try to get it down to the answer. You had a question and you want the answer and you want to give the answer to the people who are watching or listening. You want it to be short and interesting and easily understood. But in the case of Kamala Harris, because she was such a meandering dope. God, the story is the long, meandering dopiness that is the story. What she, she doesn't say anything ever. I don't know from a, like, even a journalistic Standpoint, what I think how you should handle that. I mean, if you. Unlike all other parts of politicians, editing her at all was significant to the interview.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Unnamed Contributor
I mean, what was the total on the words there that I mentioned? This is from the New York Post's counting of it. She gave the total answer, which I don't think we, I, I, you can, the whole thing is out now. I started watching it yesterday. It's like an hour long. But the whole thing is out there. And I'll have to watch this later. They didn't air it in the 60 Minutes interview, the whole thing at all. But Kamala Harris gave a 179 word answer to that question. And then 60 Minutes cut it down to 20 words, which still sounds dumb. She still sounds like she has no idea what she's talking about.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that first version was, I was like, oh, that's right. Yeah, boy, she's that dumb.
Unnamed Contributor
But that's the, that's the 21, that's the 20 word version that they edited it down to. I want to hear the whole 179 words. What the hell does she say? Good Lord.
Jack Armstrong
Keeping in mind she only lost because of misogyny and racism, according to the new head of the dnc.
Unnamed Contributor
Yeah, I think, I think what's going to come out of this and like looking at that New York Times subhead, people are going to hear, see, Trump sues 60 Minutes. Turns out 60 Minutes did edit it. I think that's what's going to be in the, the ether of the conversation about this. Yeah, if, if it becomes against the law to edit answers at all. I don't know how we would even move forward as a, as a species. Those of us who play clips for.
Jack Armstrong
A living, and if you're not familiar with this, politicians, especially if they're in an even semi hostile forum, will try to filibuster you. Yeah, you'll ask them, are you going to vote for the Jones Amendment? And five and a half minutes of rambling later, you'll find him finally be like, can we redirect, please? And they do that intentionally. So you have to edit.
Unnamed Contributor
Yeah, that's a good point right there. It's often to not have to answer the question and bore you to death or knowing that you're going to have to get to a break at some point.
Jack Armstrong
I'm not a big fan of horror movies. I just, I don't dig them. But if I want to be horrified, I'll sit around and daydream for five minutes. About what it would have been like if Kamala had won and we were going 100 miles per hour down the road of DEI and white guilt and men playing women's sports and squandering money and the ridiculous US Aid programs. A hundred different examples. It's too terrible to contemplate.
Unnamed Contributor
Well, you know, I believe in the parallel universe thing. I want to. I want Elon to put me on a spaceship to go to the parallel universe where she won and see how it's playing out. Holy cow. No kidding, man. You talk about a different next four years.
Jack Armstrong
Well, in foreign policy wise, what are our adversaries going to do with President Kamala in charge? Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty the Armstrong and Getty show.
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The Armstrong and Getty show 33 years of working together. This is the low moment, right?
Unnamed Contributor
So at the end of the last segment, you're about to hear it. I I'm, I, I struggled. Joe said it was off the air. He said during the commercial. So that is the worst moment in 30 years of doing this show.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, it is.
Unnamed Contributor
Katie's already laughing.
Jack Armstrong
She was laughing. Will not soon be cleared I can't.
Unnamed Contributor
Wait to hear it again. I'm not looking forward to hearing it again. I can explain myself, I think. Well, I can't really explain it, but I know what happened. Anyway, this is how it sounded. What you're about to hear happen, like six minutes ago.
Jack Armstrong
Spacing off and daydreaming is incredibly important, as is sleep.
Unnamed Contributor
Hope you are well or all.
Jack Armstrong
No Armstrong and Getty. Oh, beautiful, beautiful.
Unnamed Contributor
Again, Michael.
Jack Armstrong
Spacing off and daydreaming is incredibly important, as is sleep.
Unnamed Contributor
Hope you are well or all.
Jack Armstrong
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Unnamed Contributor
So I was trying. I was in my mind what I was going to say. And usually as a person who speaks for a living, what I have in my mind can come out of my mouth quite quickly eventually, or an alternative version. And I've never felt physically this. I've never felt this before. My tongue, it felt like it was three times its normal size or something happened with my jaw and my tongue. I hope it's not the beginning of a horrible disease or something that I'm about to find out.
Jack Armstrong
That would be unfortunate. And I feel bad about my giggling.
Unnamed Contributor
I just all of a sudden my mouth would not work.
Jack Armstrong
Well, see, I thought it was because if we're up against a hard break, which means there's no flexibility, we have to take it at that very second. Michael will count us down the last 10 seconds. And I could see you looking down at your phone or notes or something like that as Michael was counting down. And as he got down to 3, 2, 1, I could tell you weren't aware of it. And you looked up mid sentence with 1 second left and I assume your brain just locked up.
Unnamed Contributor
Or all nar. Oh, no, I don't think that was it.
Jack Armstrong
Or olnar.
Unnamed Contributor
Because I was. I don't think that was it because I was trying to read what it was alternative. I was trying to read and it just. My tongue expanded. Words are hard. Exactly. Katie, hope you are well or all. No. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, that's what it is.
Unnamed Contributor
I have been making my car payment or house payment as a broadcaster for 41 years. And that is the worst moment I've ever.
Jack Armstrong
It was a good run.
Unnamed Contributor
That was my worst moment right there.
Jack Armstrong
I just came across, not long ago, one of the most beautiful and touching things that I've seen in a very long time. And that is a farewell message from Mia Love. Do you recognize that name? She was the young black woman who was elected to Congress in Utah. She'd been a mayor and stuff like that. She was the first black woman Republican in the House of Representatives and really interesting person. She died recently of brain cancer and she wrote what she said not a good was not a goodbye message, but a thank you message. And it is absolutely beautiful. And again, I wish I had time for more, but I'll give you a little bit of it. Dear friends, fellow Americans in Utahns, I'm taking up my pen not to say goodbye, but to say thank you and express my living wish for you in the America I know. And then she describes the end of the battle with brain cancer and why she and her family have decided that now it's time to just be with each other as opposed to more treatments. Anybody who's gone through that terrible experience knows what she's talking about. As mayor, member of Congress and media commentator, I've seen the worst of petty politics, divisive rhetoric and disappointing lapses of moral character by some. These same roles also provided me a front row seat and a backstage pass to be blessed and inspired by the courage, vision and hope of America's finest daughters, sons and citizens. Couching this column as a dying wish felt a little dramatic even for a drama person like me. We are not certain how long the season of my battle will be, and I do want to share and reshare some things with the world that I passionately believe. I write all of this as my living wish and hopefully enduring wish for you. Let me tell you about the America I know. My parents immigrated to the United States with $10 in their pocket and a belief that the America they heard about really did exist as the land of opportunity. Through hard work and great sacrifice, they achieved success. So the America I came to know growing up was filled with all the excitement found in living the American dream. I was taught to love this country, warts and all, and I understand I had a role to play in our nation's future. I learned to passionately believe in the possibilities and promise of America. And she talks a lot about watching her mom and dad work our odd jobs to provide for the kids and the education that they got.
Unnamed Contributor
God, I hate to turn this negative, but that's what I do. It makes me nuts that there are so many children of privilege on college campuses. I mean, you grew up an upper class lifestyle. Now you're at a expensive university and you're down and sad and on anxiety medicine and angry because you believe the country's so awful and you can't make it right. Right.
Jack Armstrong
That just to me, you know, idle hands are the devil's playthings. That just shows the corrosive power of lack of purpose. O anyway, and this part I love too. Watching my mother and father work odd jobs in order to provide for us and maintain their independence taught me valuable lessons and personal responsibility. When tough times came, they didn't look to Washington. They looked within. Because the America they knew was centered in self reliance. The America I know is founded in the freedom self reliance always brings. What makes America great is the idea that when government is limited and decisions are made closest to the people they impact. People are free. Free to work, free to live, free to choose, free to fail, and free to achieve. The America I know provides everyone an equal opportunity to be as unequal as they choose to be. We will have a link to this entire essay@armstrongegetti.com I suggest you very strongly you read it because there's a lot more to it.
Unnamed Contributor
What's that saying of whether you think you can or you think you can't? You're right.
Jack Armstrong
You're right.
Unnamed Contributor
It reminds me of that with the the philosophy of you either believe this is a country where you can work hard and make it or you don't. You believe that that's a lie that people tell you. I've heard. I've heard Bruce Springsteen say that they push this lie that you work hard and you'll make it. F you, Bruce.
Jack Armstrong
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Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – The A&G Replay Monday Hour Two Release Date: June 30, 2025
Overview: In this engaging episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a variety of pressing topics, including the internal strife within the Republican Party, controversies surrounding transgender athletes in high school sports, the pitfalls of AI-generated content, media accountability in political interviews, and a heartfelt farewell from former Congresswoman Mia Love. The discussion is marked by sharp analysis, candid opinions, and notable insights, making it a compelling listen for those interested in contemporary political and social issues.
Timestamp: 00:33 – 06:53
Jack Armstrong opens the segment by critiquing the Republican Party's recent legislative maneuvers, particularly focusing on the passage of President Trump's Tax and Immigration bill. He expresses deep frustration with the internal conflicts, highlighting how fiscal conservatives within the party vacillated to ensure the bill's passage. Armstrong states:
“This is the most sausage of sausage making... there are only a handful of like lunatic hardliners who are against the following headlines.” (02:04).
He further critiques the Wall Street Journal and National Review for their perspectives on the GOP tax plan and Medicaid spending, suggesting that the party has deviated significantly from its traditional fiscally conservative roots. The discussion underscores a perceived moral and strategic decline within the party, leaving Armstrong feeling "completely embittered" about the current state of American politics (05:59) – (06:53).
Timestamp: 10:59 – 15:00
The conversation shifts to a controversial incident involving high school athlete Reese Hogan in California, who chose to forgo the top podium spot after a transgender male competitor outperformed her. Jack Armstrong criticizes the handling of the situation, expressing frustration over what he perceives as societal hesitance to confront transgender issues in sports. He remarks:
“This is ridiculous.” (11:41).
The hosts debate the emotional and logistical challenges faced by parents and students in similar situations, debating whether protests or boycotts are appropriate responses. Armstrong emphasizes the cruelty he perceives towards female athletes and questions the moral justification behind allowing federal subsidies to support high-tax states like California and New York (05:37) – (07:48).
Timestamp: 15:00 – 18:02
In the Tech Beat segment, the hosts discuss a humorous yet concerning incident involving the Chicago Sun Times' summer reading list, which included AI-generated book titles and descriptions that did not exist. Jack Armstrong highlights the dangers of AI "hallucinations" in journalism:
“They used AI to generate the list and it did the hallucination thing.” (15:34).
The segment underscores the importance of human oversight in content creation and the potential reputational risks media organizations face when relying excessively on artificial intelligence. The hosts amusingly recreate the scenario of generating fake book titles, illustrating how easily AI can fabricate believable yet entirely fictional content (16:41) – (18:02).
Timestamp: 19:28 – 29:53
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the recent controversy surrounding CBS's 60 Minutes interview with Vice President Kamala Harris. The hosts explore the implications of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) releasing the full, unedited interview amid allegations that CBS manipulated Harris's responses to portray her unfavorably.
Jack Armstrong critiques CBS's editorial practices, suggesting a bias that disadvantages certain political figures:
“CBS is wildly biased. Wildly. And I think most people know it.” (23:16).
Joe Getty (referred to as "Unnamed Contributor") discusses the legal and political ramifications of the lawsuit filed by former President Trump against 60 Minutes, emphasizing how this situation could damage the media outlet's credibility. They analyze excerpts of Harris's responses, pointing out the stark differences between the original and broadcasted versions, ultimately arguing that the edits undermine journalistic integrity (25:31) – (29:53).
Notable Quotes:
Timestamp: 34:59 – 39:03
Towards the end of the episode, Jack Armstrong shares a poignant farewell message from Mia Love, the first Black woman Republican elected to Congress from Utah, who recently passed away due to brain cancer. Love's message reflects on her American journey, values of self-reliance, and her hopes for the future of the nation. The hosts discuss the emotional impact of her words and the broader implications of her legacy in American politics.
Key Excerpts from Mia Love's Farewell:
“We are not certain how long the season of my battle will be, and I do want to share and reshare some things with the world that I passionately believe.” (36:00).
“What makes America great is the idea that when government is limited and decisions are made closest to the people they impact.” (37:15).
Timestamp: 31:57 – 34:59
In an unexpected turn, the episode humorously addresses a technical glitch experienced by Joe Getty during a live segment. As he attempts to continue speaking, he encounters difficulties articulating his thoughts, leading to a moment of self-deprecating humor about his performance. The interaction highlights the human side of live broadcasting and adds a light-hearted moment to the episode.
Conclusion: This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand offers a comprehensive and incisive exploration of current political dynamics, social controversies, media ethics, and personal tributes. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty provide listeners with thoughtful commentary interspersed with personal anecdotes and sharp critiques, ensuring an engaging and informative listening experience.
Notable Quotes:
Timestamp Reference: For ease of navigation, each timestamp mentioned corresponds to the point in the transcript where the quote or topic is discussed.