The A&G Replay Thursday Hour 1

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: The A&G Replay Thursday Hour 1 Release Date: November 28, 2024

In this engaging episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a variety of thought-provoking topics ranging from social isolation and perceptions of aging to the resurgence of cursive handwriting and the peculiarities of modern grilling culture. The conversation is punctuated with humorous anecdotes, insightful observations, and lively exchanges with co-hosts Katie, Michael, and Sean. This detailed summary captures the essence of their discussions, highlighting key points, notable quotes, and the overall flow of the conversation.

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Social Isolation and Modern Communication

Katie's Weekend Silence ([01:18] - [04:00]) The episode opens with Katie reflecting on her experiences of spending weekends without interacting with others. She shares personal anecdotes about feeling disconnected and the challenges of maintaining silence over extended periods.

"[01:49] Katie: When I was single and childless... I hadn't interacted with another human being at all. I hadn't said a word to anybody."

Discussion on Population and Isolation Joe Getty and Michael weigh in on the rarity of prolonged isolation, debating the percentage of the population that might experience similar silence.

"[02:05] Joe Getty: I would guess it's fewer than five percent."

Katie counters by suggesting that modern lifestyles, especially among younger generations, might make such isolation more common than previously thought.

"[03:55] Joe Getty: It makes me sad."

"[03:57] Katie: All I know is we're moving more in that direction than away from it."

Perceptions of Aging

Survey Insights on When Old Age Begins ([05:19] - [07:56]) Katie introduces a survey conducted by German researchers highlighting that the perception of when old age begins has shifted higher, now averaging around 75 years instead of the traditional 65.

"[05:57] Katie: ...75 is the new 65 because it used to be. Not that many years ago, people said old age started at 65."

Personal Anecdotes and Variations The hosts share personal stories about aging, health, and how different individuals perceive the onset of old age based on their physical conditions and lifestyles.

"[07:15] Joe Getty: Surprisingly, the horse was 75. What? It's an old horse joke."

The Resurgence of Cursive Handwriting

Handwriting vs. Typing ([10:05] - [13:28]) Joe Getty brings up the topic of handwriting, particularly cursive, discussing its cognitive benefits and questioning the rationale behind educational policies favoring its revival.

"[10:05] Joe Getty: You are picking specific letters and having to manipulate your fingers and everything like that."

Katie emphasizes the importance of handwriting for mental organization and creativity, although she remains puzzled about the specific focus on cursive.

"[11:19] Katie: ...writing things down organizes them in your head or gets them out of your head."

Grilling and Gender Stereotypes

Grilling Culture and Competence ([20:04] - [22:44]) The conversation shifts to grilling, with Katie expressing her lack of interest and skill in it. The hosts humorously critique stereotypical grilling behaviors and share anecdotes about disastrous grilling attempts.

"[20:04] Michael: That is a great point."

"[21:37] Katie: I'm giving up on that manly skill, but hoping I make for any other manly areas."

Viral Story: Brazilian Woman and the Dead Uncle

Attempted Fraud with a Deceased Relative ([30:07] - [33:51]) Katie recounts a bizarre news story about a woman in Brazil who was arrested for attempting to get a dead body to sign a bank loan agreement. The hosts dissect the incident, discussing the woman's motives, the reactions of bank employees, and the legal implications.

"[30:07] Katie: So Katie brought us this headline earlier in the show. Now I have the details."

"[32:36] Katie: Uncle, are you listening? You need to sign."

Joe Getty compares the incident to the fictional scenario from Weekend at Bernie's, pondering the comedic versus horrifying aspects of such behavior.

"[34:22] Katie: Right? There's only one movie to refer to, that one."

Funerals and the Posing of the Deceased

Humorous vs. Respectful Memorials ([35:06] - [38:37]) The hosts explore the trend of posing deceased individuals for photos during funerals, debating the fine line between honoring the deceased and crossing into disrespectful territory. They share various examples and personal opinions on what constitutes an appropriate memorial.

"[35:22] Joe Getty: So I'm picturing... that's not bad."

"[36:35] Katie: Yeah, the New York Times is good at that."

Sean adds his own creative ideas for posthumous appearances, blending humor with sensitivity.

"[38:05] Sean: All right, for my funeral, I'm going to do radio stuff."

Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with a brief recap of the topics discussed and a promotion for the Armstrong & Getty podcast.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• "[01:49] Katie: ...I hadn't said a word to anybody."
• "[05:57] Katie: ...75 is the new 65 because it used to be."
• "[11:19] Katie: ...writing things down organizes them in your head."
• "[20:04] Michael: That is a great point."
• "[30:07] Katie: ...Now I have the details."
• "[32:36] Katie: ...You need to sign."

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This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand masterfully weaves humor with meaningful discussions, offering listeners a blend of entertainment and insight into contemporary societal trends. Whether contemplating the nuances of aging or the oddities of modern social interactions, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, and their co-hosts provide a relatable and thought-provoking listening experience.

Transcript

[Jay Shetty]

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[Jordan Peterson]

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[Jay Shetty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

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[Katie]

When I was single and childless. Thank you. What is her name? Gladys.

[Michael]

Gladys, I want to call.

[Katie]

Sorry, Gladys. I want to call her Lola. For some reason, Lola doesn't play the harp. Thank you, Gladys, for laying the harp of me reminiscing about something. When I was single and childless, there were a few weekends where I would realize on Monday morning as I'm driving to work to do the radio show, that I hadn't said a word since I left work on Friday because I hadn't interacted with another human being at all. I said word to anybody.

[Michael]

I don't. I don't really know what to say to that.

[Joe Getty]

What percentage of the population can make that same claim? I did not interact with another. Another human being the entire weekend. Did not speak a word. It's fairly limited, I would guess, but you know, you. Do you.

[Katie]

What would you guess?

[Joe Getty]

And if you. As angry hermit, hey, I would guess.

[Katie]

That both my brothers have done it semi regularly recently with their kids, older and out of the house.

[Michael]

Like, not even a phone call. Like, that's bizarre to me.

[Katie]

Nobody talks on the phone, and I don't know if that's a good example. Now, back in the day.

[Joe Getty]

No, we're talking back in the day.

[Michael]

Yeah, right.

[Joe Getty]

You had Gladys play the damn harp, then you called her Lola, and now we're in the present day. What's going on here?

[Katie]

Somebody explained the ground rules.

[Joe Getty]

Have we all lost? What does Walter say in the Big Lebowski? Something about if we all lost our minds. Nobody cares about the rules anymore.

[Katie]

How much of an outlier do you think I am? You think I'm in the 1% of the population that has ever done that? Or.

[Joe Getty]

It'S fewer than five.

[Sean]

I'd say five.

[Katie]

Pretty small.

[Joe Getty]

No, it's not five. It's one to one to two and a half.

[Katie]

Really? I don't think it's probably good for you. I also had to do with like, like, you know, have a really big Friday night, maybe alone, watching movies or something, and you don't feel so good on Saturday. Maybe part of Sunday you just don't leave the house. You order a pizza, you know, might be an exaggeration to have not said a word to anybody. Might have said thanks to the pizza guy when he handed me the pizza. But wouldn't have been more than a couple of words.

[Michael]

Oh, in this day and age, even with phones, I've. I've done that. Where you take the recovery day, you turn the phone off.

[Katie]

Oh, yeah. So think about this, though. The younger crowd now with their lifestyle, like, you know, our producer Sean or whatever. I'll bet he had weekends where he never said a word to anybody other than through maybe a headset, playing video games or a number of young people now that, you know, you can doordash or whatever. You don't have to call anybody to order food or something. I'll bet it happens more often than you think. It'd still be a small number.

[Joe Getty]

It makes me sad.

[Katie]

All I know is we're moving more that direction than away from it, I.

[Joe Getty]

Would guess, which is good. You can see all the statistics on how happy and carefree young people are these days.

[Katie]

Yeah, I don't. I don't think I ever came out of a weekend, like, thinking that was like a really good time or what an awesome weekend that was or something. And I'm not claiming that. See?

[Michael]

And I'm of the day and age of cell phones and whatnot. And it's amazing the hoops I will jump through to avoid having to talk to somebody else. Yeah, like I'll, you know, scheduling appointments online, ordering online, all that stuff. I would much rather do that than have to call and interact with someone.

[Katie]

Yeah, I avoid it now. Not because I don't want to talk to. If I thought I could talk to a human being, I'd call right away. I don't want to call and get your impossible to use automated phone system that takes me 20 minutes and doesn't work. I'll see if I can do it online. And the reason it takes 20 minutes and doesn't work is because you want me to do it online because it's the cheapest thing for you. But that's a Different topic. A couple of quick things here. I just came across this. Don't usually talk about this sort of thing on this podcast. This money circulating in the US Is expanding rapidly. We have a money supply surge going on right now. It's the highest level in over a year. They think that will likely lead to inflation surging higher. Don't like that story.

[Joe Getty]

It ought to, if the laws of monetary physics are still true. And they are.

[Katie]

And then this one. This is an actual survey. This isn't one of those done by According to walk in tubs.com older people always look at who paid for the survey. A lot of times surveys adjusted the crap because of who they paid for. This is actual research done by a team of German researchers in Germany and the United States Journal of Psychology. Stuff about how what we. Where we think old age begins has been moving higher. This is not surprising at all.

[Joe Getty]

Last July is when you think old.

[Katie]

Age began for you?

[Joe Getty]

Yes, absolutely. Last year. I feel like when I screwed up my back.

[Katie]

Oh, really?

[Joe Getty]

It started the shuffling. Like I'm 90 and it's. It's a lot better now.

[Katie]

But that has still. That has a lot to do with it because I was going to mention my mom and dad have different numbers on that. And for those reasons, my mom's physical health is not near where my dad's is. So I don't know what she would say, but she would probably say old age starts. Well, I can tell you the average now is 75. If you ask a senior. When does old age begin? It's now 75. 75 is the new 65 because it used to be. Not that many years ago, people said old age started at 65. Now that would seem kind of crazy, I think, for a lot of people.

[Sean]

For me, it started at 48. That's when you start hurting yourself, you know, just doing the most basic things like walking or something.

[Katie]

Yeah, I was just in the lunchroom and one of the sales women who is now in her 40s was talking about all 40s are not what I thought they would be talking about. Trying to work out and she keeps getting hurt and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but so now it's 75 as opposed 65. My dad says 80. 80 is when old age starts. But that's because he was still riding his horse up till 82. My mom has not been as physically as gifted as him and would put it a little earlier, but probably about.

[Joe Getty]

Surprisingly, the horse was 75. What? It's an old horse joke.

[Katie]

Or said, when are you going to get off of me. That is the question. When do I have. When do I get to be an old age? That only makes sense, I suppose, life expectancy and help. But my mom regularly says when she was a kid, people in their 60s were considered old. You just that you were done with life in your 60s. Nobody would have thought you played golf or rode a horse or rode bikes or vacationed or anything. In your 60s, you were just starting a new career.

[Joe Getty]

Are you kidding?

[Katie]

You were just in a rocking chair in your 60s, which now of course seems crazy. You're the youngest among us, Katie. Any thoughts on this? Or does everything over the age of 45 just seem ancient to you?

[Michael]

No, my. My. Both my parents are in their early to mid-70s and they're both young as can be. So I don't even think 75 is old in. In my perspective. And I. Dude, everything started hurting on me last year and I had a stroke when I was 31. So I'm. I'm 90.

[Joe Getty]

That's why we get along so well better.

[Katie]

Having a stroke at 31 would change your view of it. I didn't have any health situation really at all until I got cancer at 49.

[Michael]

But did my health went nuts at 29. A kidney problem came up out of nowhere. A quote, mutated gene. I have a hereditary condition that is a mutated gene because nobody else in my family has it. And then I stroked out in 2020. It was wild.

[Katie]

What? No idea what caused that?

[Michael]

The stroke?

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Well, it was a mixture of not taking care of myself and stress. Okay.

[Katie]

Oh, really? But some of it was in your control.

[Michael]

Yeah, I just. I wasn't exercising at all. I was obese big time.

[Joe Getty]

Were you really?

[Katie]

I can't picture you obese at all.

[Michael]

210 pounds.

[Katie]

Were you really? This is new information. So that. That's why you're always talking about working out and you eat so healthy?

[Michael]

Yeah, I had. I had to make a change. The doctors were like this. You. They actually called, said that I dodged a bullet because I had three TIAs over the course of a week.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it'll get your attention, won't it?

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah. Huge. Kind of like what? I mean, Michelangelo had the. Had the big shock diabetes diagnosis and had to make a complete change on his life. Eye opening.

[Katie]

That's why I've been saying for a long time that I'd like to have a minor heart attack.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, geez.

[Michael]

Come on.

[Katie]

Yeah, I think a minor heart attack would get my attention and I wouldn't eat. Donuts and stuff anymore. I don't want a major heart attack. I don't want to die. I got kids to raise. But I think a minor heart attack, just a little, hey, huh? Huh? Like flicking my ear, huh? Wake up.

[Joe Getty]

Well, good luck with that plan. That's between you and the Almighty, who you'll be meeting sooner than later. But, jeez, it's an interesting way to approach life. Note to self, take blood pressure this afternoon.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's always a good idea. One final note on brain health, because during your little screen about not having contact with any human being for an entire weekend, you know, so much of what we are is neurologically predetermined, honestly. And if you're a neurological outsider or outlier, you just are. And you can, as I always say, you can operate within a certain narrowish lane of the way you're made. You can intentionally be more outgoing because you know it's good for you, blah, blah, blah. But you are who you are. Having said that, we were talking about handwriting and why so many states are trying to bring back handwriting in cursive. I was intrigued because there wasn't a lot of information in the article we had, and I was reading into it. And apparently, according to neuropsychologists, there's something about handwriting that involves all sorts of different parts of your brain that govern language and creativity and physical stuff and whatever, and they all have to interconnect and work together to yield handwriting. And it's really good for your brain.

[Katie]

Well, I mean, it's.

[Joe Getty]

It's a use it or lose it thing with your brain.

[Katie]

I'm completely aware of that and of just the idea of. That's why journaling and that sort of stuff is so important. There's something about writing down thoughts that can get them out of your head and arrange them in ways that they don't get arranged otherwise. And people have known this for centuries. And if you don't do it, you should try it. I do it every day, sometimes twice a day. But writing things down organizes them in your head or gets them out of your head. Like if you got a. You know, why do I keep thinking about this thing that's driving me nuts? Write it down a couple of times and it can go away. Trust me, I've done it. I don't know how many times, but I do. They know that printing doesn't do the same thing as cursive because I print everything. I've had success with it. And that's why. I just don't understand why they're bringing back cursive specifically.

[Joe Getty]

I really can't imagine why it would be different.

[Katie]

I can't.

[Joe Getty]

I don't, I don't. Which doesn't mean that it's not. I just can't imagine.

[Katie]

One question that I don't think they've answered because I've looked into this and, and read some stuff about it. They're not sure if typing works the same way as I was just talking about or not, because you are picking specific letters and having to manipulate your fingers and everything like that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, and what about playing a musical instrument? And although you can't compel a kid to play the guitar, but you can have them write in school. And it's good for the brains.

[Katie]

They'Ve brought back. If you didn't hear us talking about this, they brought back cursive, I think down 22 states. And I was just wondering why. What's the argument for it?

[Michael]

I'm seeing that curse, according to the Google cursive, engages more areas of the brain than when you print.

[Katie]

I hope I. If that's true. It's true, right? I do know because I know some of these people. There's just a hanging on to cursive because I've always done it, I'm good at it and my grandma did it. That's why that drives some of it. But if it's better for you, it's better for you, and I'm fine with that.

[Joe Getty]

All I know is that the environment of the beast, the human beast, is evolving at 5,000 times the speed that the beast can adapt to it.

[Katie]

Yeah, probably more like 500,000 times the speed, but yeah.

[Joe Getty]

All right, how about 5 million times?

[Katie]

But the point being. Yeah, what, what, what are we going to do with that?

[Joe Getty]

I was hoping he'd say, yeah, how about 50 million times, huh?

[Katie]

And, and we're not even close to how fast it's going to go as soon as AI and everything kicks in, so.

[Joe Getty]

Well, we're all doomed. Doomed to insanity, misery, drug addiction, public fornication. Who knows, Nobod, we wish.

[Katie]

Public fornication. Maybe some babies would be born. So if I was 1% of the population that didn't talk to anybody over the weekend, that number will be 75% here in about 10 years, I think.

[Joe Getty]

And the survivors will write that history, but not incursive because their brains have stopped working.

[Katie]

That's something too funny not to end on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Joe Getty]

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[Katie]

But this, this is actually real. Remember this promo? I never watched the show.

[Joe Getty]

And the most horrifying donkey attack ever caught on tape. That was When Animals Attack.

[Katie]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

That was in the heyday of when Big Fox went with like super pandery shows like When Animals Attack in celebrity boxing and stuff.

[Katie]

Well, that would. So the world's most terrifying donkey attack caught on tape.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. And the most horrifying donkey attack ever caught on tape. Yeah. Not like a somewhat horrifying or one of your second or third most horrifying donkey attacks. They got the McGill. They got the all time champ.

[Katie]

The most horrifying donkey attack.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Michael]

Take a top five.

[Katie]

Take that other s and get it out of here. Your marginally dangerous donkey. Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Somewhat horrifying donkey attacks. Who would watch that?

[Katie]

I'm sorry, that's also when they were doing the man versus beast, which I love.

[Joe Getty]

That was so crap horrific. Those were so funny.

[Sean]

Then Michael Phelps go against a shark too.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that was, that was more recent. But Katie, this is when you were but a wee girl. But yeah, Fox, Big fox used to do some great idiotic pandering TV shows. They had.

[Katie]

Whoever was the current fastest runner raced a giraffe, I think for inexplicable reasons.

[Joe Getty]

And a guy, what did he wrestle up? Oh, he tried to out eat. It was a hot dog eating contest.

[Katie]

Kobayashi at the time before Joey Chestnut, the top hot dog eater in the world. Kobayashi tried to eat plate of hot.

[Joe Getty]

Dogs faster than a bear.

[Katie]

And the bear just like just went.

[Michael]

This sounds like golden entertainment.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it was, it was, it was terrible because they'd show like the only really good piece of footage to promote it. And at the beginning and over and over again. Then you had to wait till the end of the show and sit through through, you know, just. Just stupidity.

[Katie]

Well, I mean animals usually won like just very easily, as you would expect. There was some NFL lineman or some big tough guy who did a tug of war with an orangutan.

[Joe Getty]

What? I'd forgotten about that one. Wow, this is good stuff.

[Katie]

What a stupid show. I just remember the. You had the guy in the giraffe and they released him and the guy's running as fast as he can and the giraffe just disappears.

[Joe Getty]

What's the point of this? When Animals Attack was on for weeks, right. That was a. That was a ongoing show.

[Katie]

Right. That was the heyday of Fox. Bring that back. I think they just ran out of.

[Joe Getty]

Ideas and sometimes they'd have real footage. But because not everybody had a cell phone at that point and ring cameras weren't omnipresent, it was a lot of reenactments. Very disappointed. I don't care how good your reenactment is, it's not the same as actual footage.

[Katie]

A bobcat. So he's right. Quick question for you. What if you happen to miss this unbelievable radio program?

[Joe Getty]

The answer is easy, friends. Just download our podcast, Armstrong and Getty on Demand. It's the podcast version of the broadcast show, available anytime, any day, every single podcast platform known to man.

[Katie]

Download it now. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jay Shetty]

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[Jordan Peterson]

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[Katie]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Katie]

We got. This is about the way I grill and the pictures I've tweeted out and Katie's complaint about my grilling. Re IQ differences, which we were talking about differences, different kinds of intelligence. Earlier in the show, somebody texted, jack seems to be brilliant at history, but then he puts his grilling utensils on the ground. So yes, there are different kinds of intelligence.

[Michael]

That is a great point.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's the contrast. Shocking.

[Katie]

I. I don't know why I put the spatula on the ground and well.

[Michael]

Not just that, but then when we brought, when we pointed it out to you, you said, well, where else? Where should I put them? Anywhere else, Jack.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, even on a paper towel on the ground. Although that's just partial credit. Did get this note from Dan in North Carolina. I'm with you, Jack. I have zero interest in grilling and am convinced that half the men that claim to be interested are latent junior high schoolers desperate to fit in. So, like the brave masked intellectual walking your parade route, I say f you to those who boo us.

[Katie]

Yeah, I don't mean I don't think there's got to be a flaw in other people that like to grill. I just, I just don't enjoy it and I have no interest in learning to be better at it.

[Joe Getty]

And then Dan spins a tale worth telling. As an aside, I have a relative by marriage, of course, that fancies himself a master griller. So the propane grill was too bourgeois. So he purchased the same charcoal grill you have, except apparently he couldn't figure out how to install the legs. So he just put it on top of a deck railing. Then he lit the fire in there, burned a hole almost completely through a plywood table and emblazoned the leaves around the carport, which led to a fire department visit emblazoned he uses in quotes like that reporter. Bet his stakes are great though.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

The grillest in the anti grillest. Is that the newest default line, the dividing line in American society?

[Katie]

Yeah. So I'm giving up on that manly skill, but hoping I make for an other manly areas. Like if you couldn't put the legs on that grill, you really have no ability to fix or work on anything. Holy crap. They're like, yeah, two screws and a wing nut.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, Katie, your main card is at risk.

[Katie]

Oh, I say.

[Michael]

I just think that if you, if you had a different grill, it might change your experience a little bit.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Michael]

They can't be comfortable being down in that position grilling at all. No, it's not comfortable in that position doing anything.

[Katie]

Right.

[Sean]

How much did you spend for that grill, Jack?

[Katie]

I honestly think it was on sale. I think it was $8 because it was on sale. It was like they had two left.

[Joe Getty]

Should you spend dollar grill guy?

[Michael]

No, he's lying. He stole it from the guy that lives in front of the radio station.

[Katie]

Right. Lives in his beaten down rv.

[Joe Getty]

It's the mini Weber. Right. That sits like a foot off the ground. The top of it's a foot and a foot, maybe a foot and a half. Yeah.

[Katie]

I think it's designed to take with you camping or something. It's not designed to be or tailgating the grill you have in your backyard.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Yeah.

[Katie]

It's kind of funny when I've been looking for a house and some of these houses, you know, they got the built in grill with the refrigerator and just all these in the fan above it and all these different. This is slightly different than what I currently have.

[Sean]

Hanson says he knows a place you could buy a bunch of used grills.

[Katie]

There you go. Yeah, so I should do. Yeah, one with legs would be handy if I didn't have to bend over. Anyway, that's probably enough of that. This was from the Daily show last night. Once a week, the old host of the Daily Show, Jon Stewart, is on there. Pretty funny.

[Joe Getty]

Well, he's actually funny, which is in contrast with the other hosts. It's certainly Trevor Noah.

[Katie]

Wow. This features a word I knew I've never said and never will say. And other people think this sort of humor is funny, and so we didn't air it on the air. But I realize other people find this humorous. As I was explaining, though, the media has systematically failed to contextualize.

[Michael]

Sean, please.

[H]

You're killing me. My poor, sweet, naive, older than I remember. John.

[Katie]

What? Really?

[H]

We need this messy spectacle. Every other news story is a massive bummer. This Trump trial is like an open window in a Greyhound bus full of farts. Why are you trying to close the window, John? Why are you trying to make us smell farts? I'm not trying to make you smell farts. No, John, you're not trying to make us smell farts.

[Katie]

Becca, you know I would never do that. And our executive producer thought that was funny. I don't like that word. I don't say that word. To me, that is the F word.

[Michael]

And so I will never understand that.

[Katie]

I don't understand it myself, but I'm appalled by that word. And I do not find there any humor in the topic.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, all right, Captain Cuckoo. Whatever. I'm interested in the angle of. We need this story. It's a breath of fresh air. I mean, it's. Is that just lefty insanity or.

[Katie]

I think just focusing on. I find it very troubling focusing on what time he arrived, what his hair looked like, did he fall asleep. Just something that's just that. As opposed to super heavy duty war, abortion, et cetera, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The weaponizing of the justice system against political candidates is light fare. It's hilarious. I think I could stay awake.

[Katie]

I thought it was pretty funny that that young correspondent said, older than I remember, John Stewart.

[Joe Getty]

That's probably.

[Katie]

She probably was watching him in like junior high and really into it. Now she's on the Daily Show. He's a six.

[Joe Getty]

You know how it is. If you see somebody, then see him five years later, it's like, oh, God.

[Katie]

I had one of those the other day. I ran into somebody and thought, did, did I? Have I aged the same amount since the last time I saw you as you have? That can't possibly be true. Yeah, well, okay, I think, I'm pretty sure. I didn't take a lot of physics, but I'm pretty sure time moves the same rate for all of us. Right.

[Joe Getty]

Unless one finds oneself in a black hole. Yes, that is my understanding of it.

[Katie]

So if I run into somebody and they've aged a certain amount, it would lead me to believe that I've aged the same amount too. I just haven't recognized it. Am I correct there?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, sure. You see yourself every day.

[Katie]

This probably doesn't happen to you, does it, Katie? You're too young for that.

[Michael]

No, it has. I've seen some people from high school, I'm like, oh, you're aging like dreamer.

[Sean]

Do you tell them that?

[Michael]

No, my face probably does. And I, I am the, the master of saying it with my facial expressions, unfortunately.

[Katie]

Right. People do age at different rates though. I mean there's as big a swing is 15 years, they say, and what age you look once you get older, depending on genetics and lifestyle. So it's not completely true that we aged the same amount.

[Joe Getty]

And I'm realizing the ultimate do you want to look good now or later? Is sun exposure.

[Katie]

Oh, wow. I have a female friend who all her friends say, why do you look so young? And it's all because she did not tan when she was younger like they all did. And she does look, she's 15 years younger than her contemporaries, at least.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Katie]

So it is tough. Do you want to be pale person at the pool when you're 22 or do you want to be looks 40 at age 50 person when you're older?

[Michael]

That's a tough call, leather face.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I definitely find myself as I am rapidly aging among. You got your tens too much, young woman, then you got your tens too much 40 year old woman. And you're starting to see the signs of what might be described as a catcher's mitt like dermis. And then you have your 60 plus tanned too much woman. And man, them birds have come home to roast.

[Katie]

Yeah, that's a heck of a price to pay to be good and tan when you're 25. Really is.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And again, I don't, I don't mean to be cruel. I don't measure people by their looks, but there's no better term than leathery.

[Sean]

Remember we had a salesperson we referred to as tan guy.

[Katie]

Well, he was, he was. Yeah, he was super tan.

[Michael]

Yeah, he was it. Actual tan.

[Katie]

I know it was real tan because we went to a company. Remember there was a company barbecue once. And he did the really odd thing at this company barbecue, everybody stand out. Where he took off his shirt and sat in a lawn chair with everybody around at the company barbecue so he could get more sun. So I guess, I guess he was tan guy.

[Michael]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Work function. Yeah. But hey, sun's out, guns out. And teats apparently. Nimble action nipple. Exactly. All right, that was in really good shape. But yeah, he was not going to waste a single opportunity to get more UV rays in him. Armstrong and Getty. Things are getting weird and they're getting weird fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't you think that's a little odd?

[Katie]

Absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind this.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Katie]

So Katie brought us this headline earlier in the show. Now I have the details. It's really something. The headline being a woman in Brazil was arrested after she attempted to get a dead body in a wheelchair to sign for a bank loan.

[Michael]

I was on Twitter or X or whatever the hell it's called now when this video went viral. So I saw the unedited version because now it's been blurred all over the place. This guy was dead dead. Like not just. Not just like just dead, but like mega dead.

[Katie]

Oh, really? Been dead a while.

[Joe Getty]

Can you be more precise?

[Michael]

Not rigor mortis dead, because she was able to kind of move him around, but he was super dead.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Katie]

So here we go. Woman in Brazil rested Tuesday. Suspicion of theft by fraud and violating a corpse. You know, as I've said many times, when I'm dead, you can do whatever you want to me. Don't charge with a crime. I don't care. It doesn't make any difference. I mean, you're a little weird, but you violated me in any way, I don't care.

[Joe Getty]

I may get a couple of legs in, you know, work out some frustrations.

[Michael]

Jack Pinata.

[Joe Getty]

Thicketta. Thicketta.

[Katie]

After she. After she brought her dead uncle to a bank to sign a loan agreement. She had raised suspicion after he entered the small bank there in Rio with a man in a wheelchair who she called her uncle. Well, that's not. That would. Why would that raise suspicion? That's not weird. The woman, and they give her name here, which I can't pronounce, reportedly reportedly told the clerk that they were to sign off on this 17,000 reass loan. That's the number.

[Joe Getty]

That's a lot of reass, huh?

[Katie]

$3,250. And security. Cambridge footage, which Katie has seen. The woman can be seen picking up the man's hand and repositioning his head to try to get him to sign the document in front of him.

[Michael]

This guy's head was flopping all over the place.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my.

[Michael]

Forward, backward, mouth open. And then she finally gets irritated enough to just get a grip on the back of his neck, and she's holding him steady with the other hand. She's trying to pick up his arm and get it to hold the pen.

[Joe Getty]

It's just good. Good plot. And you say that didn't work.

[Katie]

So his head's going all over the place.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah.

[Katie]

Can be picking up the hand. Reposition his head. Uncle, are you listening? You need to sign. If you don't sign, there's no way, because I can't sign for you. She can be heard saying on the.

[Joe Getty]

Audio, I will just steady your hand.

[Katie]

All right? Uncle, are you listening? You need to sign. He doesn't say anything. That's just how he is. She tells the clerk when he doesn't reply. If you're not okay, I'm going to take you to the hospital. But the man's.

[Joe Getty]

Don't bother.

[Katie]

The man's unresponsive nature and lolling head, as described by Katie Green, caused concern among bank employees who called local ambulance.

[Joe Getty]

Services dude is megadeth.

[Katie]

On arriving, the Doctors confirmed the 60 year old man had been dead for quite some time. His body was taken directly to a morgue and she's been arrested.

[Michael]

Creative idea.

[Katie]

Her lawyers are arguing. No, no, no, no. He was fine. He must have died in the wheelchair as I was rolling into the bank.

[Joe Getty]

Just before he signed.

[Katie]

Because we talked about this right out on the sidewalk before I rolled him in. And he. He must have died right beforehand. And I did. I just didn't notice.

[Michael]

Not an effing chance. Not a chance.

[Joe Getty]

And he was, you know, he was never that energetic in life, so I didn't notice the difference.

[Michael]

And his eyes just naturally sunk into his head like that. He always looked that way.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, mega dead.

[Katie]

Preliminary, preliminary forensic analysis says he had died at least several hours before the trying to sign for the loan, if not longer.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but if your Uncle Enrique kicks it, I mean, just be twice, all right? We're going in on this loan together and he croaks just before you go to the bank. It's frustrating, it's inconvenient. I say we stick with plan A and see how it goes.

[Katie]

Well, you come up with a workaround. That's what that is. It's a workaround. Yeah, you try not to let his head flop all over and you lift his hand up there.

[Joe Getty]

As big a hit as Weekend at Bernie's was, it's amazing to me that dragging a corpse around comedy didn't become a more important genre.

[Katie]

Right? There's only one movie to refer to, that one. There isn't like a whole bunch of them.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, American Pie spawned dozens of imitators, for instance.

[Katie]

Right, exactly.

[Michael]

There was a few years ago where the Weekend at Bernie's funeral went viral. Do you guys remember that?

[Katie]

I don't know that I do.

[Michael]

There were like a series of funerals. I think BuzzFeed did, like, an article about it and compiled a list of people that instead of just having like a regular visitation or whatever, had themselves, like, dressed and propped up with, like, cigarettes put in their hands, and they were like that. And the families were coming up and, like, taking pictures with them. And there was another one that was a weightlifter and they actually attached their hands to, like, a deadlift.

[Katie]

You see, it depends on the situation though, clearly, because, like, my friends would think it was fine. Yeah, but my kids might not. I hope, you know, it depends on your relationship with who it is.

[Joe Getty]

So I'm picturing. All right, I mean, if you had me sitting in a chair with My Telecaster in my lap.

[Katie]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

You know, that's not bad. Or. Or maybe like some reclined on the couch with a half empty scotch next to me like I was watching a golf tournament and fell asleep. My wife would. My wife would appreciate that one.

[Katie]

Oh, okay. Well, yeah, I guess it depends, but. Yeah, I could see that. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. There's a lot of caveats to the whole idea, I suppose.

[Jordan Peterson]

Yeah.

[Michael]

The weightlifting one got my attention though, because the. The way that they have her. Her propped up and then they have a bench press over her face, like she's about to just do a big old lift.

[Joe Getty]

I can't decide if this idea is more charming or horrifying. I keep going back and forth. Right.

[Katie]

I agree. Is it like you want to see him more like he lived or.

[Michael]

I guess that could be charming.

[Joe Getty]

Ish.

[Katie]

Or it's horrifying.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. You know, one thing that I'm in favor of is like, for an obituary or a memorial service or something like that. I don't like it when they have like the most recent picture. When. When the person is ancient.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Because as anybody past the age of 50 especially can tell you in your heart, your soul, who you are is your young self. And you just have aches and pains and more memories and a little more wisdom and that sort of thing. But the old dude is kind of a stranger. You're like, how the hell did that happen? So I just. When they were youngest. Vital. Most vital. Energetic. When they were forming who they are. Give me that picture.

[Katie]

Yeah, the New York Times is good at that. They use you in your prime picture for all their obituaries of famous people. Like, I see them every Sunday in the New York Times Book Review. Whatever author died. And they have their. When they were, you know, a hot, sexy woman or a cool young guy or whatever. Whatever they were that had so much to do with the things you wrote. Not like just an old person. Yeah.

[Michael]

The time of their life that they look back on fondly.

[Katie]

Yeah. And what they probably became famous for. Now, we're not talking just about famous people, but like in. Yeah. And just for everybody. I agree.

[Joe Getty]

Now, I've kind of been a dip from age 12 through the grave, so it'd be easier for me, but. Yes. Yeah.

[Katie]

I was gonna say what. What point do I get to choose ahead of time? What point? Because, like, you know, we'll pick him. When was he young and vital? High school. Here's a good high school picture. No, I don't want that.

[Joe Getty]

Young but not vital. Let's keep looking.

[Michael]

I'm writing down my new favorite slam a Doughy Dip.

[Katie]

Yeah, there you go. You're a Doughy Dip, aren't you?

[Sean]

All right, for my funeral, I'm going to do radio stuff. I'm going to have open casket with me sitting up with headphones on my head, holding up three fingers exactly, counting us down.

[Michael]

And then we'll have Jack and Joe there scream, screaming at you.

[Joe Getty]

And then, oh, oh, hey, hey.

[Sean]

And then you can donate money to pay any FCC fines.

[Katie]

So we would say. I don't know why we're assuming we're gonna outlive you, because I don't think we are. We would be there saying, just where's the clip, Michael? Just for old times sake.

[Sean]

That would be great.

[Joe Getty]

No clip. 42. 42. Oh, that's right. He's passed. God rest his soul.

[Katie]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Katie]

Download it now. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, it's Jay Shetty with On Purpose. My newest episode is out now with Jordan Peterson.

[Jordan Peterson]

To be open to learning does mean, at least to some degree, always asking, what am I doing wrong? What do I have to give up? What do I have to transform? That can be very painful. There isn't anything better that you can do with failure, no matter how unjust, than to learn from it.

[Jay Shetty]

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