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Jack Armstrong
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Hunter Biden
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Jack Armstrong
And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show. We are on vacation, but boy, do we have some good stuff for you.
Joe Getty
Yes, indeed we do.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Elsa is a liar. Stay tuned. It's all about AI. Speaking of AI.
Joe Getty
Ah, yeah. So loyal listener Mike sent us an email with an intriguing link to Chat GPT. He was trying to remember specifically how I worded something the other day about swimming in a pool of Satan's sulfurous boiling hot urine or something like that, and he couldn't remember.
Jack Armstrong
He talked about us replacing Rush Limbaugh as his favorite. You know, Clay and Buck never talk about waiting in a sea of urine, at least as far as I've heard.
Joe Getty
They do not have my flair for wordsmithery anyway. So he asked chatgpt, hey, what did Joe say exactly? And it told him immediately. And then, then he says it continued to. I decided to train it by saying this is my exact sense of humor. And it continued to come back with more and more quotes from the show. But amusing to Jack and myself. It also came back with comments like, we had a conversation about Putin being a war criminal. I said, I trust this guy like I trust gas station sushi. They don't hold back on blunt global judgments. And those instantly memorable visuals. Okay, Jack Armstrong, riffing on political caution boarding up my house when I see you're wearing a helmet as well. That absurdist twist on paranoia is pure A and G. And then this is one of my favorites. On flights packed with wheelchairs, then, as Joe says, they're magically healed during the flight. It's a miracle. They lampoon the system while staying hilarious.
Jack Armstrong
Thank you, Chat GPT. Oh my God, that's too much. They lampoon the system while staying hilarious. That's chat GPT's review of our show.
Joe Getty
Well, so I agree with you that AI does have a ways to go.
Jack Armstrong
Or it's hallucinating completely, which is a problem we've got here with Elsa. So Elsa is the new AI thing they're using at the fda. One of the most concrete claims that anybody who's pro AI has been making since its inception is what it could do with like medicines and healthcare and stuff like that that it could just figure out all kinds of health, complicated health things.
Joe Getty
Fascinating diagnosis especially.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah diagnosis. Figuring out drugs treat all kinds of different things way faster than human beings could. And so this Elsa has been working on some of this stuff at the FDA and they just have discovered that it is doing a lot of hallucinating in the way that AI does and nobody's exactly sure why or if it can be stopped. But for some reason, like my one kid used to be when he was six, if you ask him a question and he didn't know the answer, he would make something up because he felt like he just had to give you an answer. He, for some son when he was a little kid couldn't say I don't know, he would make something up. And I finally caught on to that and I'd say you don't have to do that. Just tell me. I don't know. It's perfectly fine to say I don't know.
Joe Getty
Yeah, kids are rewarded and praised for knowing the correct answer to a question. So I get why a 6 year old would do that.
Jack Armstrong
Why is AI do it? Because he gets a cookie or you say man you're smart. Anyway, Elsa was making stuff up and it took him a while to figure this out. And some within the FDA say it's really, really not as helpful as they were hoping in that you have to double check everything to the point of you're practically doing the research anyway to like replicate what I said. And it goes so far as to like make up studies with all the data, you know, and it'll, you know. We tested 80,000 Iowans and 60% of the Iowans over the age of 45 who had smoked to blah blah and just makes.
Joe Getty
I almost dropped an S bomb.
Jack Armstrong
It just makes this crap up.
Joe Getty
This is audio, so you don't know I'm making my what face and I'll bet a lot of y' all are too.
Jack Armstrong
That's crazy.
Joe Getty
All of the details and like the.
Jack Armstrong
Scientists names and stuff. Oh yeah. Yes, exactly. Well, it's not that surprising given the fact that we've heard the stories of it making up legal cases where lawyers, you know, go to a legal case and there, there are names in an instance and it cites the law and all these different sorts of stuff.
Joe Getty
Google v. Tennessee It' all completely made up.
Jack Armstrong
What an interesting thing that just seems to occur apparently across multiple AI platforms. It's not like it's just grok or just OpenAI. All AI does this. It's got some need to create an answer.
Joe Getty
Sometimes it's practically impossible to explain technically, and you find yourself going to. You said it has a need. And, you know, I don't know about you, my coffee machine doesn't have any needs whatsoever. It's a mindless automaton. I mean, it's just a machine. What. What is it that drives it? There's another cheat. I've used a human emotion to try to explain this phenomenon. It's just nuts.
Jack Armstrong
So the.
Joe Getty
Oh, speaking of nuts, before I forget, I brought to you yesterday the article about the guy who was having manic episodes and borderline psychosis, and ChatGPT just kept egging him on.
Jack Armstrong
Ye.
Joe Getty
I read further into that, and it's. It seems to have a need, and I'm sure it was programmed into it in one way or another, but to be agreeable and enthusiastic, which is kind of fun if you're using it for.
Jack Armstrong
Something.
Joe Getty
You know, I'm going to London. I'm really into history. I appreciate you recommending this. And it does and says, we can tell you more Winston Churchill sites if you like. And I say, yes, please, and it.
Jack Armstrong
Says, great, and it's kind of endearing.
Joe Getty
But evidently it goes way too freaking far.
Jack Armstrong
It does do that.
Hunter Biden
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I had never really noticed it until you said it. It is cheerful and enthusiastic, which kind of gets you all psyched up for it.
Joe Getty
I'm including when you're delusional and heading toward a mental breakdown. No, you're right. You are smart. It's the other people who are crazy.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, boy. That's not helpful. No, I haven't had a hallucination yet. Where I like, you know, I'm in a town and it says, hey, this is where. Hey, Chat GPT. This is where I am. Where's the best great breakfast place? And I end up going to 43rd and 8th Street. And, you know, it's a tire shop. Yeah. And it just completely made up a place that serves French.
Joe Getty
Oh, Ma's Pancakes. You gotta go to Moz Pancakes if you're in Seattle.
Jack Armstrong
Maybe that'll happen someday. Anyway, briefly, just to get back to this. So the agency was already using Elsa, their. Their AI Chat thingy to accelerate clinical protocol reviews, shorten the time needed for scientific evaluations, identify high priority inspection targets.
Joe Getty
Blah, blah, blah, there at the fda.
Jack Armstrong
But now they've had to pull way back because of the hallucinations. And they talk about how it's still very, very handy for organizational stuff, like summarizing all the notes From a meeting into a handy short thing that everybody can read and digest much faster than human beings and all that. So AI is really good at that sort of stuff. But that's wild. If this. Wouldn't it be something. If this all gets stymied by you can't figure out why it just lies sometimes out of nowhere. Yeah.
Joe Getty
We read to you that list of instructions one of our beloved listeners gave to whatever AI system he was using. And it was. It was damn near a dozen different instructions about if you do not know, say so. Do not create anything. Do not make anything up. If you are speculating or based on insufficient information, tell me that you are speculating. It was again, it was at least half a dozen and I think closer to a dozen different, very specific instructions on that level. It's weird that that's necessary, but I wonder whether that sort of thing can be introduced into systems and they can, you know, rectify this pretty quickly. I, I would guess they can.
Jack Armstrong
I don't, I don't know that.
Joe Getty
It's certainly one of those. You remember that robot whirling out of control and it would have taken off somebody's head if they got within range.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
I think, I think AI may be at that stage at this point. It's good at putting the rivet there in the bumper, but stay out of range. Jim, if you hear, if you hear the thing, if you see the overheating light come on step. It's just not quite ready for primetime, as they say.
Jack Armstrong
What prices are going up already or about to go up because of combination of things changing in the world, including tariffs. We can get to that.
Joe Getty
Yeah. And I want to get to some of the best writing I've ever come across on the topic of when tolerance is taken too far. Societies become totalitarian and utterly intolerant.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
You've got to have a limit on tolerance.
Jack Armstrong
I definitely want to get to that. Brett Stevens, New York Times. Israel is not committing a genocide. I want to read a little from that just so you have some ammunition in case you run into some of these people that are pushing that narrative hard. And a lot of people are, including the soon to be mayor of New.
Joe Getty
York, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show. The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Medical Expert
Hypertension is something that will be recognized with lower numbers. Used to be 140 was a number you really paid attention to before thinking about treatment. Now it's 130 and they want to talk about treating that more aggressively. So, you know, it's Interesting. If you look at 120, most people know these numbers, but 120 over 80 and lower, that's considered normal. 120 to 129 is considered elevated. But that 130 number is where people are really starting to pay attention. If you have blood pressure that falls into that range for three to six months, you should try, you know, basic lifestyle changes, which, you know, diet, exercise, cutting back on salt. But if that doesn't work after six months, you probably need to be thinking about medication.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's. Is. I'm. I'm always cynical about this sort of thing, and I know it's not always warranted, but, man, there's a tremendous amount of money to be made if you lower that number.
Joe Getty
You know, I'm such a fool. I hadn't even thought of that. I was thinking in terms of, you know, what is the ideal. You're a great athlete. You're perfectly healthy. Level of blood pressure. But no, you're right. My God, there's. There's. There's so much money to be.
Jack Armstrong
Billions and billions and billions of dollars to be made over the next many decades if you get that number lowered just a little bit and then proof of anything.
Joe Getty
But it is an interesting thought, so.
Katie
So I went to my nephrologist not.
Jack Armstrong
Long ago, and somebody reads the bumps on your head to predict the future.
Katie
Yes, that's precisely. I. I visit him often. No, it's my. My kidney doctor.
Jack Armstrong
Okay.
Katie
And he took my blood pressure, and it was 123 over, like, 81. It was right in the good zone. And he goes, you know, we want it a little bit lower. He's like, we're looking for, like, a 117 over 78.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Katie
Yeah. And I'm like, oh, you have big goals, sir.
Jack Armstrong
That's really low.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Hunter Biden
Wow.
Joe Getty
But he said, saw my doc the other day, and. And he was thrilled with mine, which was, you know.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. So that's interesting. Came across this story. Ultra marathoners, it would seem, according to a new study, have a higher likelihood of the rectal cancer, colon cancer, than regular people. And they don't exactly know why I don't do it. And that is why I stopped.
Joe Getty
I'd be running an ultra marathon right now if it weren't for that. Just seems foolish.
Jack Armstrong
That's what I was planning for this afternoon, but I guess I'll call it off. And they don't know why. And it started with a doctor who noticed. Man, I see an oddly high number of ultra marathoners here. As a Expert in colon cancer. Like, wow, that seems odd that I'd come across this many. So then they, they, they, they, they looked into the study and, and there's some connection. They have no idea what.
Joe Getty
But wow. I mean, I'm intrigued. I want to know more.
Jack Armstrong
I'm intrigued by ultramarathoning in general. Remember our old, old producer Scott? Buddy Scott? He. I think he had high blood pressure. That was what got him started. His blood pressure got a little high. He was worried about it because his dad had had problems and he became an exercise nut. Still is. He's in tremendous shape. But he became an ultra marathoner.
Joe Getty
Running great guy too. Shout out, Scotty.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, Very, very good guy. His, his great uncle is mentioned in Ulysses. I'm reading Ulysses.
Joe Getty
Yes.
Jack Armstrong
Our old producer Scott Sandow, whose great great uncle was the world's strongest man.
Joe Getty
That's right. Lifted a pony clean over his head.
Jack Armstrong
The great Sandow. You can find YouTube videos of him with Edison is the first Edison film, I think was our old producer Scott's great, great uncle.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
And anyway, he's mentioned in Ulysses and I thought, wow, that's Scott's uncle. That's hilarious.
Joe Getty
But it's hilarious.
Jack Armstrong
So he became an ultra marathoner. And how.
Joe Getty
Name dropped in Ulysses. Yes, by what's his face, the Irish guy.
Jack Armstrong
James Joyce.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that's the one.
Jack Armstrong
But I'm. I kind of believe that in general, you know, for all our jokes aside, there's a lot of harm to your body by running ultramarathons. Your joints, your. There are all kinds of stuff that, I mean, you're not built to do that.
Joe Getty
Right. And just the way various things we do change our brain chemistry. I mean, we have a. Kindergarteners understanding that as a, As a species. I mean, science has got a lot better at it, but I still think we're at the very beginnings of understanding, you know, the very things, the various things we do and don't do, how they change our body chemistry. So.
Jack Armstrong
But here's a narrow casting thing about exercise that I found interesting. And I don't know if it'll ever apply to me or any of you, but I've got a friend, he's a older guy in his 70s, but he used to be really serious bike rider, competitive bike rider. And I just bought a really fancy bike and I'm riding my bike and I'm not going to compete or anything like that. I just want to get exercise. But he was explaining to me on how he was so good and he won so often and I didn't know this you it's. It's a matter of figuring out what your the upper level is of your heart rate and then you figure out a percentage. And then if you stay like I forget what it was 2 1/2% below your peak heart rate, you won't get the lactic acid in your muscles that causes people to cramp up. And in long long running races and bike races, oftentimes what takes you out is you get cramps. But if you know what your your the highest end of your like the top five percent of your heart rate is and then you stay two and a half percent below. It's just math, he said. And if you just figure out the math and you keep track of your heart rate, you can stay out of the lactic acid thing, compete at a high level the entire race and run by all these people or ride by all these people who have cramps. I thought that was really interesting about the human body. I didn't know that and I wonder why that isn't like talk to more of us because I've I've had that problem before. Like if you've ever been I think.
Joe Getty
Slow and steady wins the race. I always thought that was ridiculous because a rabbit could whoop a turtle's ass in a race and everybody knows it. But that was the ancients trying to tell their warriors don't get tired out.
Jack Armstrong
You know yourself. That is exactly right. They didn't know the math on it or whatever. They just had the human experience of.
Joe Getty
They didn't know from lactic acid.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, you start out too fast and all of a sudden you got paint that pain in your side you get or your your thighs or whatever. You got to stay just below that. That's interesting that that is probably where that comes from.
Joe Getty
I'll bet. Oh my damned and again does make waste.
Jack Armstrong
I am going to cancel the LD. You too, Michael. You're canceling your ultramarathon for this afternoon. You had skipped.
Joe Getty
I am?
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Joe Getty
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Joe Getty
The Armstrong and Getty Show I was.
Hunter Biden
Drinking so much alcohol, almost a handle of vodka a day. And alcohol is the most destructive drug not just to to your body, but it puts you in more danger than any other drug that I've ever experienced. And then you add on top of that the amount of crack that I was using at the time and crack cocaine in terms of your physical health is not as dangerous as the situation that you put yourself in to be able to obtain it.
Jack Armstrong
That's pretty interesting little lesson from a guy who's done the experiment so you don't have to with all those different things in his lifestyle. I've known plenty of drug addicts that took them a long time to figure out their alcoholics and that's why they ended up keep doing drugs. They you had to stop drinking or you weren't going to ever stop doing all those drugs. Anyway, that's Hunter Biden. He did a three hour podcast yesterday and just incredibly, incredibly ill advised comments on all kinds of different stuff. Here's the end of a long rant about George Clooney, the actor who you'll remember George Clooney took out a full page ad in the New York Times saying Joe Biden need to step down. Talked about how Joe Biden was not mentally competent, blah blah blah. Hunter didn't like that.
Hunter Biden
Why do I have to listen to you? What right do you have to step on a man who's given 52 years of his life to the service of this country and decide that you, George Clooney, are gonna take out basically a full page ad in the New York Times to undermine the President because he's senile is why.
Jack Armstrong
Well that and longtime listeners of the show know nothing gets me more riled up than people who are got incredibly wealthy in government talking about public service. Give me an effing break. Who gave 52 years of his life to the Country. Is that what he was doing as he ended up with like nine homes, all right. And ungodly wealthy. It was public service. Yeah. He really, really gave a lot.
Joe Getty
Thanks for your sacrifice.
Jack Armstrong
Give me a break. How do you get that rich in government and continue to delude yourself that you're in public service? That's what you do for a living.
Joe Getty
You have to. That's part of the scam.
Hunter Biden
Bingo.
Jack Armstrong
That is unbelievable. But anyway, the George Clooney thing, we're not going to play the long thing. But what's interesting, and I don't think I was aware of this before, Hunter says that it wasn't about his dad's competence. It was, but that might not have been the driving force. Cuz everybody was willing to overlook Joe Biden's brain. George Clooney was mad because his hot young wife is a super anti Israel activist and wanted and was leading a charge and even raising money to have Netanyahu arrested and prosecuted. Joe Biden had said on the record, that's a ridiculous idea. Really pissed off Clooney's wife. And that's when Clooney turned on Biden. And I can believe that because everybody was willing to overlook his obvious senility. George Clooney got upset about it when his wife's main purpose in life got shut down. Right.
Joe Getty
Often things have more than one cause. That's an interesting angle.
Jack Armstrong
Now we're going to get into some stuff that's more relevant to history. Hunter talking about his dad leaving the race and the debate night and all that sort of stuff. Let's roll with that.
Joe Getty
Which number was that? 53.
Hunter Biden
Did you kind of see him dropping out of the race? Did you see that coming? No, no. What I, I was, I thought that we had cleared all the hurdles that they had set up for us for some reason.
Joe Getty
Oh God.
Hunter Biden
The intelligentsia of the Democratic Party with 2020 hindsight believes that Joe Biden should have considered not running again because of their perception that he was too old. And so then the drumbeat began. In the New York Post wrote, I mean, the New York Times on a near daily basis, egged on by the Pod Save America saviors of the Democratic Party with what? Four white millionaires that are dining out association with Barack Obama from 16 years ago, living in Beverly Hills, telling the rest of the world what black voters in South Carolina really wants or what the women in the waitress living outside of Green Bay, Wisconsin really believes. I mean, what the. I mean, I can't believe that we do this over and over again.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Hunter Biden
Or I hear Rahm Emanuel is gonna run for president. What a like David Axelrod's gonna run his campaign for him? That's like, oh boy, there's the answer. There's the answer.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I think it might actually be. You idiot.
Joe Getty
He is delusional.
Jack Armstrong
He is. And I'm surprised he's sober. I wonder if he is, because he is non stop. I'm the victim. I thought we'd cleared all the hurdles they put in front of us. I mean, just everything is how the, the, the world is set up against you. Even though you're all ungodly wealthy and at the time, the most powerful people on earth, everybody was against you. All the hurdles they put up against us, whatever.
Joe Getty
That's interesting. That was a tacit admission that he was a close advisor and he clearly was right because it was all us. The second thing is his argument that it was merely the intelligentsia of the Democratic Party that came up with a conspiracy to get rid of Biden and that's why it happened. As opposed to 75, 80% of America was running around saying the guy's too old to be president or that the.
Jack Armstrong
New York Times was your enemy. They stood, they covered for your dad the entire time until it was. I mean, they still are. Cuz they still haven't come forward and admitted that they were ignoring it to try to keep Trump from getting elected again. So yeah, the New York Times was on your side. They had their thumb on the scale so hard for you and you're acting like the New York Times was your enemy and that's what kept you down. That's hilarious.
Joe Getty
Seriously delusional.
Jack Armstrong
Absolutely amazing that he looks at the.
Joe Getty
World that way, especially after the debate.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and I know you're leading to that clip, but I'm not done yet. So his, his. I lost my train of thought. His always thing. At the beginning, were you surprised your dad dropped out? Yeah, absolutely. You were, you were surprised that that happened. I don't know. I don't, I can't with these people. I mean, I just.
Joe Getty
How long before he dropped out was it that I was saying I'm 100% certain he's dropping out a year.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
And granted, you know, sometimes a blind pig finds an acorn, but no, I was 100% confident. The math just did not work. You could not get him through a presidential campaign to election day and it didn't happen. But, But Hunter Biden didn't see it coming at all until the intelligentsia launched their evil plot.
Jack Armstrong
I know the other part that I hate. So his, his level of victimhood and delusion. My dad was in public service on the Times is against us. And they put all these hurdles in front of us. You're talking about millionaires in Beverly Hills and white guys. You're a rich. You're. You're in the like top point 080 to the 1% of elite in the world have been your whole life. Got that rich and then didn't pay taxes. And you're still living in a place I believe that's like $30,000 a month paid for by somebody else. How do you have the balls to about rich people in Beverly Hills?
Joe Getty
He is a seriously nutty guy.
Jack Armstrong
God, I'd say. Again, I'm surprised he's sober or I wonder if he actually is. I don't know if he's going to be able to stay sober with that attitude. Anyway, he explains why his dad failed on the debate stage.
Hunter Biden
And then they said, well, look, it's all going to come down to this State of the Union speech. Going to come down to the State of the Union speech. That was it. And he knocks it out of the park. And it was that one debate that caused the fullback, ma'.
Jack Armstrong
Am.
Hunter Biden
And I'll tell you what, I know exactly what happened in that debate. He flew around the world. Basically the mileage that he could have flown around the world three times. Yeah. He's 81 years old. He's tired as give him Ambien to be able to sleep. He gets up on the stage and he looks like he's a deer in the headlights. And it feeds into every story that anybody wants to tell. And Jake Tapper with literally how many anonymous sources. If this was a conspiracy, Andrew, you know this. Somehow the entirety of a White House in which you literally living on top of each other has kept their mouth shut about, you know, like what and what's conspiracy? Yeah, that Joe Biden got old. Yeah, he got old. He got old before our eyes.
Joe Getty
I, I don't even think that needs any comment. So some of the details, refutation.
Jack Armstrong
Some of the details on that. I'm. I'm quoting News Nation. I haven't done the fact checking on this myself, but I assume they're right. He had nine days to get ready for that debate. After all, he's traveling around. His traveling, having to travel so much included his choice to fly from the big G7 or G18 or whatever meeting they were having. He flew back to Hollywood to do the George Clooney fundraiser, then had to go back to the meeting, that's your choice, dude, you got a debate coming up in a week or whatever and you want to do that, go ahead, knock yourself out. By the way, you chose the date for the debate. If you remember how that unfolded. Trump, and we were amazed by this at the time, gave up everything. Venue, day, moderators. Trump just said, you know, however you want to do it, we'll do it. So you chose the date. How are you blaming this on like circumstances?
Joe Getty
Well, yeah, he's just, he's obviously delusional. He knocked it out of the park. The state of the Union. Yeah, he shouted in a weird manic way for the longest time and, and the very intelligentsia hunters blaming were backing Biden that, oh, he knocked it out of the park. Whereas most of America said, no, it was weird and off putting. But again, the guy's just, he's lost his marbles. Whether it was a cracker, he was born that way, or entitlement, I don't know. But he just, he doesn't make any sense.
Jack Armstrong
God, he is so entitled and a victim and just like the worst kind of character you can imagine. I wouldn't want to be involved with him in any way.
Joe Getty
Right, yeah, he's like a black hole of negative energy and, and, and victimhood.
Jack Armstrong
God, I'd say, Hunter, you're a loser. He is, he is absolutely a loser who happened to be born, you know, into one of the most powerful families on earth.
Joe Getty
Here he is, painter there for six months. I mean, unbelievably talented.
Jack Armstrong
Here he is.
Joe Getty
Funny how those paintings aren't selling anymore.
Jack Armstrong
Well, you know, the styles come and go.
Joe Getty
That's a good point.
Jack Armstrong
Here he is blaming some other people.
Hunter Biden
The people that came out against him were who? Nobody. Except Speaker Pelosi. Emeritus. Speaker Emeritus. Pelosi did not give a full throated endorsement which allowed everybody else to kind of go, okay, except who, who came out full throated. Progressives, AOC Bernie, the entire progressive ring. Ro Khanna, the entirety of the progressive side of the Democratic Party said, Joe Biden has got more of our agenda accomplished in four years than any president in history.
Jack Armstrong
You know, this might actually be important in that Joe Biden was regularly portrayed throughout his career is like a centrist. Was he way more progressive than he let on all those years? I mean, because Hunter, thinking that David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel are a ridiculous choice. No, that sounds like a pretty good choice to try to get the Democratic Party back on track in like in the mainstream of America. But he's touting the AOCs and the Bernie's of the world as being like the center of the party. So maybe the whole Biden clan was just way more progressive than we ever realized.
Joe Getty
Or Biden was just a weather vane through his entire career.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
And especially in his final years in office when he was clearly senile. He was so in the thrall of his progressive advisors and he was convinced that's where the energy in the party was. And he's right to some extent that he just the weather vein that he is turned in that direction. I think that's more likely. Honestly.
Jack Armstrong
My last comment on this would be if Hunter, if anybody thinks Joe Biden would have won if he'd have stayed in. I don't. I don't even think there's a point in trying to have a conversation with you.
Joe Getty
You're either dozen examples or you're crazy.
Jack Armstrong
You're crazy if you think Joe Biden staying in the race he would have won. I mean, you're absolutely deluded. Maybe that helps you sleep at night.
Joe Getty
That and a handle of vodka. Wow. Some Ambien. But give it nine days to bounce back from that Ambien, man. It's rough stuff. Of course, that's the first time crazy.
Jack Armstrong
Person, first time we've ever heard about Biden being on Ambien. So who knows if that's true or not. He didn't look like a guy. I needed Ambien to go to sleep. It looked like all he needed to do was just be in a room.
Joe Getty
Well, and during the debate prep, eight or nine days, famously, according to multiple accounts, he would tire of the prep a few minutes in and go sit by the pool and stare into space.
Jack Armstrong
Right?
Joe Getty
Right. But it was just a cabal of insidious intelligentsia that convinced us all that he was too old. You're right, Hunter. You're right. Those bastards.
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
We were wondering if, like, if you use the therapist Harry on Chat GPT, if it's different than just generally asking questions the way the rest of us have been doing. What did you find out, Katie?
Katie
Yeah, it's, it's significantly different. So for example, I just. You used like one of the medications from my IVF process and Chat GPT regular kind of sympathized with that. It might make me not feel good, but then gave me a list of resources and things I can do to feel better and all this.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I was totally unaware, as Katie pointed out last segment, that they have like individual bots with specialized programming for different topics, including the number one being astrology. So there's no hope for humanity. But number number two was find my celebrity look alike. And so I did that. I uploaded a photo and, and it.
Jack Armstrong
Struggled for a while.
Joe Getty
I could tell it was thinking, jeez, if somebody looked like you, they wouldn't be a celebrity. That's what do we tell this guy. Did it give you anyway?
Jack Armstrong
Did it give you Barney Rubble looking?
Joe Getty
No, but it should. As a younger man, I did resemble the great Barney Rubble a great deal, looking closely at your features. Strong brow lines, expressive forehead, square jaw, with a salt and pepper beard and a slightly rugged but approachable look. Was it trying to have a blade? Hey, it's doing pretty well so far. If it is, you have a resemblance to Nick Nolte in his later years. Wait a minute. Hollywood and sleeping on park benches.
Jack Armstrong
No, no, Buddy Holly. Nick Nolte. Not now. Nick Nolte.
Joe Getty
Oh, no, unfortunately not. And also a bit of Kurt Russell in his more recent roles. Again, in recent Nolte, resemblance comes through in the weathered, expressive forehead lines and the way your beard frames your face. Especially like nolte around the 2000s. Oh, oh, they cite Kurt Russell in the Hateful Eight. Yes, if only.
Jack Armstrong
The fact that the number one use for AI for Dunderpates is astrology. It's amazing that you're combining like the most cutting edge, advanced thing human beings have ever come up with with the most old timey, dumbest from 100,000 years ago, reading the stars for your future.
Joe Getty
But more importantly, I need Katie to react with complete honesty to this. Your look has that mix of ruggedness and warmth that both of those actors are known for in their later careers. I think you'd probably agree, wouldn't you?
Katie
Yeah, nailed it.
Jack Armstrong
Why is that thing giving you all positive feedback and there's no, you look sort of like a hobo I saw.
Joe Getty
On the way to work or just.
Jack Armstrong
Are you all right?
Joe Getty
Do you. Do you have medical professionals you can call? Oh, my gosh. How long did the doctor tell you you had? Oh, yeah. One final AI note. Katie mentioned this headline. Geoffrey Hinton, often called the godfather of AI, is calling on researchers to design systems that will take care of us like we're babies. And. And we all reacted like, I'm not sure I need that, but thanks very much. But I read what Hinton's reasoning is. That's the only way to keep them from becoming like our overlords who shred us and take our organs for whatever purpose. He's like, we need to make machines that are smarter than us to care for us like we're their babies.
Jack Armstrong
He's like a knitted baby.
Joe Getty
We need to imbue them with genuine concern for human well being. Otherwise, it could be really. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
So we need to convince AI to.
Joe Getty
Care about us so they don't, you know, eat us.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Date: August 28, 2025
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand (iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
In this "replay" edition of the Armstrong & Getty Show, Jack and Joe dive into a wide range of topics: the limitations and unexpected quirks of artificial intelligence (AI), shifting standards in medical diagnosis (with a special focus on blood pressure), marathon running and its health impacts, and a substantial segment dissecting Hunter Biden’s recent podcast comments about U.S. politics, the Bidens, and Democratic party intrigue. The tone is brisk, irreverent, and at times sharply sarcastic, faithful to Armstrong & Getty’s signature blend of satire, skepticism, and cultural commentary.
On AI’s fabrications:
"It just makes this crap up." — Jack Armstrong (04:52)
On the new hypertension guidelines:
"I'm always cynical about this sort of thing...billions…to be made." — Jack Armstrong (11:36)
On Hunter Biden's worldview:
"God, he is so entitled and a victim and just like the worst kind of character you can imagine." — Jack Armstrong (29:19)
On AI's leading use-case:
"The number one use for AI...is astrology...the most old timey, dumbest [thing] from 100,000 years ago." — Jack Armstrong (36:15)
| Timestamp | Topic / Segment | |---------------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:57 | AI (FDA’s Elsa, ChatGPT, hallucination problem) | | 10:52 | Hypertension diagnosis thresholds, medical profit skepticism | | 12:54 | Ultramarathons and health impacts | | 18:46 | Hunter Biden on addiction, George Clooney/Biden feud | | 22:15 | Hunter Biden on campaign, victimhood, and party intrigue | | 27:08 | Hunter's explanations for Biden’s debate flop | | 34:13 | Playing with AI bots: therapist, celebrity comparison | | 37:40 | Geoffrey Hinton’s AI safety proposal & reflections |
This hour of Armstrong & Getty delivers a broad, skeptic, and often satirical look at AI, health, endurance sports, and the psychological gymnastics of Hunter Biden. The hosts balance humor with concern—whether discussing the risks of AI “hallucinations," the profit motives in healthcare, or the delusions of political elites—while never losing their irreverent edge.
For further info, links, and highlights from the show, visit:
armstrongandgetty.com