The A&G Replay Thursday Hour One

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: The A&G Replay Thursday Hour One Release Date: January 2, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In "The A&G Replay Thursday Hour One," hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve deep into the ramifications of the sexual revolution, drawing parallels between historical movements and contemporary societal issues. The episode navigates through personal anecdotes, cultural critiques, and philosophical discussions, offering listeners a thought-provoking analysis of how past ideologies continue to shape modern life.

Spotlight on Extreme Sexual Behaviors

The episode opens with a discussion about Lily Phillips, a 23-year-old OnlyFans performer from England who made headlines for engaging in sex with 100 men in a single day as a publicity stunt. This extreme behavior serves as a springboard for exploring broader themes related to sexual liberation and its impact on individuals and society.

• Jack Armstrong (02:24): Introduces the Lily Phillips story, highlighting the physical and emotional toll such actions can have on a young woman.
• Joe Getty (03:50): Expresses deep revulsion, stating, “I think there's a soul deep revulsion to any person being exploited in that way, including by herself.”

The Sexual Revolution: A Historical Perspective

Delving into the roots of the sexual revolution of the 1960s, Armstrong and Getty examine its original intentions versus its long-term effects. They reference key figures like Kate Millett, critiquing her Marxist-influenced views on family and marriage.

• Jack Armstrong (05:14): Remarks, “This documentary is the best anti-porn documentary unintentionally you could possibly make.”
• Pete (06:36): Quotes Kate Millett from Time magazine, “The family is a den of slavery, with the man as the bourgeoisie and the woman and children as the proletariat,” critiquing her ideology.

Cultural Destruction and the Erosion of the Family Unit

The hosts argue that the sexual revolution aimed not merely at sexual liberation but at the systemic destruction of the traditional American family. They discuss how promoting promiscuity, eroticism, and the breakdown of monogamy leads to societal distrust and division.

• Jack Armstrong (06:55): Elaborates on Millett’s agenda, stating, “They chant, 'By promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution, abortion, and homosexuality,'” underscoring the movement’s destructive goals.
• Joe Getty (09:57): Highlights the societal impact, noting, “The sexual revolution tracks perfectly with the breakdown of the American family and endless divorces.”

Psychological and Societal Consequences

Armstrong and Getty explore the psychological ramifications for individuals caught in the aftermath of these societal shifts. They reference a documentary where Lily Phillips exhibits symptoms akin to rape trauma syndrome, such as dissociation and self-blame.

• Joe Getty (18:04): Describes Phillips’ mental state, “feeling so robotic,” and draws parallels to severe psychological trauma.
• Jack Armstrong (22:06): Reflects on the long-term effects, “She was disturbed by what had happened. And I saw one reviewer say that this documentary is the best anti-porn documentary unintentionally you could possibly make.”

The Unyielding Impact of Ideological Movements

The conversation transitions to how ideological movements, particularly those with Marxist underpinnings, persistently aim to destabilize societal structures for ulterior motives, such as establishing control through chaos.

• Joe Getty (12:00): States, “These policies are not to help our society, it's that they think it will tear it apart. They want to bring on collapse and chaos because in that chaos, they take control and institute communism.”
• Jack Armstrong (24:22): Agrees, “On the left side of politics, I don't feel like the left appreciates culture at all and the role it plays in society.”

Modern Reflections and Personal Impacts

The hosts reflect on current societal trends and personal experiences, questioning whether the changes stemming from the sexual revolution have genuinely enhanced individual freedom or led to widespread dissatisfaction and confusion.

• Jack Armstrong (14:15): Challenges listeners, “Are we better off here than we were before? And if you think so, explain to me in what way you have more sexual partners by the end of your life. How's that a win necessarily?”
• Joe Getty (21:47): Shares a listener’s perspective, “She sounded like a rape victim and it just... she's only 23. She’s got her whole life ahead of her.”

The Inextricable Link Between Economics and Social Policy

Towards the end, Armstrong and Getty briefly touch upon how social policies influenced by these ideological movements affect economic stability and individual livelihoods, using examples like taxation and welfare programs to illustrate the broader implications of cultural destruction.

• Joe Getty (30:34): Discusses the economic impact, “The capital gains tax will be paid upon death or transfer like it is now, but it won't be able to grow as much. What seems like a tax gain is just paying it early.”
• Jack Armstrong (35:29): Comments on corporate practices, “Amazon announced five days a week Beaches... It can’t keep up with Amazon.”

Conclusion

In wrapping up the episode, Armstrong and Getty reiterate their concerns about the enduring legacy of the sexual revolution and its foundational role in the erosion of traditional family structures. They call for a re-evaluation of societal values, emphasizing the importance of restoring trust, commitment, and institutional stability to rebuild a healthier society.

• Joe Getty (25:15): Concludes, “You can't make us... They have told you precisely what they're doing. And people like me are considered paranoid or whatever. It's not paranoid at all.”
• Jack Armstrong (25:33): Emphasizes the need for cultural appreciation, “Does that bother anybody on the left that the champion of the sexual revolution was out to destroy the American family?”

Notable Quotes

• Joe Getty (03:50): “I think there's a soul deep revulsion to any person being exploited in that way, including by herself.”
• Jack Armstrong (05:14): “This documentary is the best anti-porn documentary unintentionally you could possibly make.”
• Joe Getty (12:00): “These policies are not to help our society, it's that they think it will tear it apart. They want to bring on collapse and chaos because in that chaos, they take control and institute communism.”

Final Thoughts

"The A&G Replay Thursday Hour One" offers a critical examination of the sexual revolution's long-term effects on American society. Through informed dialogue and incisive critique, Armstrong and Getty invite listeners to reflect on the complex interplay between cultural movements and societal well-being, urging a return to values that promote stability, trust, and genuine liberation.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So I tweeted out this thing over the weekend, this long thread about the sexual revolution that I found was really interesting and a lot of the responses were fantastic and I thought, well, that sparks a conversation we should do on the air and then became aware of the perfect story to lead us into that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, this young British woman. She's an only fans performer. Lily Phillips. She's 23 years old, from an intact home, middle class English, but she's a porn on Onlyfans performer and decided to have sex with 100 men in one day as some sort of click bait publicity stunt thing. And documentary filmmaker decided to make a documentary about the before, during and after.

[Jack Armstrong]

You go any further, I'm wondering what people like, people who haven't heard this already, what their initial reaction to that was. Is there anybody listening whose initial reaction was anywhere in the realm of that's hot or were was practically everybody's initial reaction, like physical revulsion. I get physical revulsion from hearing that. Not only do I not have a ooh, that sounds hot, it kind of makes me sick to my stomach to think about it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's physically disgusting on several different levels, including the fact that the body is not meant to take that the female form specifically. And, and secondly, I think there's a soul deep revulsion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

To any person being exploited in that way, including by herself. That's, that's a damaged, sad soul.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, who are the guys that participated in it and enjoyed it enough?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I, I don't know the logistics of it, honestly. Well, in a lot of the documentaries about how she realized she had to remove. Remove her mind and her soul from her body during this experience. And that was disturbing and discouraging and saddening and sickening and blah blah, blah. But now, you know, the, the bizarre and truly horrifying postscript is she's announced that she's going to have sex with a thousand guys in a day as her next stunt.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's interesting that her immediate reaction at the end of the day of having sex with 100 dudes was tearful. And I've seen the promo physically, obviously emotionally, physically shaken. I mean she was disturbed.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

By what had happened. And I saw one reviewer say that this documentary is the best anti porn documentary unintentionally you could possibly make.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I believe that. Yeah. I, there are serious psychological issues going on there. It's terrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And does it mean anything more or not about our culture or anything? Or is it just a one off stupid stunt? We can discuss that. But it but leads into this pretty good. I came across this and retweeted it. Like I said, I thought it was interesting. This guy, thinker, writer, person. The sexual revolution was a disaster 60 years ago. They tried to redefine sexuality to liberate mankind using finger quotes. Everything they said was a lie. Yet their lies have ruined millions of lives. Here's the worst lie of the sexual revolution that is still plaguing society today. The sexual revolution became prominent in the 1960s on the service or. I said that. In practice, however, it sought something sinister. Societal destruction. It sounds crazy at first, but let's meet one of the movement's leaders. Do you know if her name's Kate Millett or Millett or. I don't know. M I L L E T T. Kate Millett was a leading figure of this sexual revolution. Time magazine called her the Karl Marx of the women's movement. Like that's a good thing.

[Joe Getty]

An odd compliment.

[Jack Armstrong]

The thesis of her work was the family is a den of slavery, with the man is the bourgeoisie and the woman and children is the proletariat. Here she is on the COVID of Time magazine back in the 60s. I'm looking at it right here.

[Joe Getty]

Well, they got the marks part right. Yeah, that's part of Marxism. She was just turned her attention to that aspect of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Mellet said casual sex would free women from the slavery of marriage. There you go. The fact that she thinks marriage is slavery is all you need to know about her. In reality, however, Millet wasn't after liberation. Like any Marxist, she wanted one thing. Societal destruction. Her sister Mallory shared a chilling story explaining Millet's true agenda. Mallory recalled attending a feminist meeting with Millet in 1969. The meeting began with a disturbing chant which she called the litany of evil. It explained the core beliefs of Millet and her group. Here's the chance, as written in the book the Anti Mary, which is all about this woman. Why are we here today? The chairwoman asked. To make the revolution, they answered. What kind of revolution? She replied. The cultural revolution, they chanted. And how do we make the cultural revolution? She demanded. By destroying the American family. How do we destroy the family? By destroying the American patriarch. How do we destroy the American patriarch? By taking away his power. How do we do that? By destroying. By destroying monogamy. They shouted, and everybody cheered. How do we destroy monogamy? By promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution, abortion, and homosexuality. And here we find the great lie of the sexual revolution. Push promiscuity to destroy the family. But how does promiscuity destroy the family? And this is where it got really interesting to me. It breaks the bonds of marriage, destroys trust, and sows division between the sexes. Casual sex is dehumanizing. Other people's bodies become the means for selfish pleasure. People degrade one another themselves. And their souls. A society that celebrates promiscuity is a dying society. To idolize sex is to destroy trust, friendship, and family. In short, all civilizations live and die by their families. What then does healthy sexuality look like? Sexuality reaches peak virtue when it's expressed in marriage and is procreative. Why? It orients your sexuality to love instead of lust, it becomes a force of charity that builds loving families. Monogamy is about giving everything to a person you love most. You don't lose freedom, you flourish in virtue. Procreation, meanwhile, teaches you to love your children more than yourself. Families become the force of charitable love. They're the bedrock of a healthy society. The takeaway, above all, offer grace. Who've fallen victim to the lies of the sexual revolution? This person wrote beyond that. Reject the lies of casual sex. Lust drives you to ruin, but love offers an endless exaltation of virtue. One of the interesting things I thought about all that is he at no point got into the religion part, that those who are such proponents of, you know, free sex and sleeping around, everything like that always point to people that are against that as some sort of religious stick in the muds. Wackadoos. He didn't have to go there.

[Joe Getty]

Fundamentalists.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, there is no denying that the sexual revolution tracks perfectly with the breakdown of the American family and endless divorces and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. What's interesting to me, and I'm reminded of the old saying, the. The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing mankind he doesn't. Doesn't exist. The. The extent to which the. The Marxists of the world pitch various policies, whether we're talking about what we were just talking about, and I had professors, at least one, who, as just kind of a casual throwaway, as part of one of our discussions, I think it was a philosophy class, explained that the family is actually an institution of oppression and evil, and society will only be free when the nuclear family is torn apart. And I was sitting there as a Midwestern kid from a happy, intact family, thinking, the hell are you talking about?

[Jack Armstrong]

Freedom. Free to do what?

[Joe Getty]

Well, see. Well, that's my ultimate point, though, which I'm working my way toward, is that whether it's that or the Alvin Braggs of the world and the Chesa Bodines, the progressive prosecutors who are. And George Gascons who are pitching that we need this criminal justice reform to bring social justice to the streets, and we cannot prosecute our way out of the things we see. As if anybody thinks you can. Again, getting back to the devil convincing us he doesn't exist. What percentage of the population understands that these people make these moral arguments for these policies? And the people, the real activists don't mean a word of it now. They're useful idiots on the college campuses. They bought the moral arguments and they think they're sincere. And so they pitch them to humanity. But at the core of it, it's not because they think these policies will help our society, it's that they think it will tear it apart. They want to bring on collapse and chaos because in that chaos, this is straight out of March, it's amazing, nobody knows this. Out of that chaos they take control and institute communism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, how about this? How much do you think the sexual revolution plays a part in the breakdown of the American family as this person just laid out? Do you agree with that?

[Joe Getty]

Very, very large.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I agree. Very, very large, if not like practically all of it. Who won? Who won in that? I mean, who. I mean, I can understand how if you're a 22 year old guy, you might think that's a win. Maybe a 22 year old woman, you might think that's a win. But long term really did it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, there a lot of my favorite thinkers agree that the transitory feeling of freedom and the enjoyment of promiscuity among women was very, very short lived. And among the vast majorities of women, they realized, oh, being convinced that I can have sex just like a promiscuous guy is great was a lie. It just enabled them to be used by more guys. And you know, I don't judge you folks. You do whatever you think is right, whatever you feel and you choose your own life path and I wish you well, but there's just no questioning this. And we're old enough to have seen several of these cycles. All change is not progress. There are things that catch hold and everybody is doing them, everybody's talking about them. It's a huge trend in a society that turn out to be terrible, practically disastrous. Just because everybody's doing it doesn't mean it's a good idea. Far from it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's really interesting. Do you think there's any putting the genie back in the bottle on that sort of thing outside of like a cataclysmic, you know, Great Depression, World War sort of thing?

[Joe Getty]

Probably not. I mean, in spite of these big societal waves we've been talking about, people still have the capacity to make their own judgments and craft their own lives. I, I suspect that among people who see it more the way we see it, It'll, It'll be fine. But no, I think you're right to, to have a serious change back to a more traditional view of sexuality and sex and marriage and that sort of thing. Yeah, it would take some huge, huge societal change.

[Jack Armstrong]

I, I just, I'm surprised there's not more. Like just looking at the results and thinking, okay, are we better off here than we were before? And if you think so, explain to me in what way you have more sexual partners by the end of your life. How's that a win necessarily?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, I, I don't, I don't know. It's tough because people just, they're living their lives. They're. They're surrounded by a hundred different inputs and swirling, you know, currents of this, that and the other. And it's tough for them to really nail down one particular aspect of life like this and say, okay, that change has had a bad result. It's just all too confusing. I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I don't think what. This one is that confusing. I think it's a fairly straight line from sexual revolution through the family coming apart and the, the explanation there of the, you know, sowing the seeds of distrust and lying and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that sort of stuff. That's just horrible, horrible, horrible.

[Joe Getty]

Add to that the richest government on earth declaring to women all over the country, you don't have to be married to a man anymore. You can be married to the government.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So we've got the audio of that only fans chick who had sex with a hundred guys in one day. And if you were listening to the previous segment, we are not celebrating this sort of thing at all. We're using it as an example of the breakdown of, I don't know, society. Well, I don't even know. I don't even think it's morals. I think it's practicality. Just the practicality of having a happy life.

[Joe Getty]

A lot of morals. That's what they are.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. Yeah, true.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

But, but they're always looked at wrong. They're looked at as like a. Because God said it. You have to do it. What kind of weirdo would believe that? No, it's gonna give you a better life, is the reason.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. It's because it's been tried 5 million times, living a life, and we've figured out the best ways to do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, back to our question. We've got audio of this woman describing what it was like. Do we want to hear from her?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Why not? Yeah, I've heard it before. It's. It's interesting. Go ahead, Michael. First one.

[Unknown]

It's not for the weak girls, if I'm honest. It was hard.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if I'd recommend it.

[Joe Getty]

Why not?

[Unknown]

I think if you're a different type of girl, it's very like. It's kind of like being a. In a sense of like, it's just a different.

[Joe Getty]

Feeling.

[Unknown]

I don't know how to explain it.

[Joe Getty]

Like it's not like just having sex with someone.

[Unknown]

Yeah, yeah. Just one in, one out. Like it feels intense.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure.

[Joe Getty]

Like more intense than you thought it might.

[Unknown]

Totally.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then she starts crying. Isn't that nice?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Get to the next one, Michael.

[Unknown]

I think that was kind of the hard part is like, oh no, this is.

[Joe Getty]

This is irrelevant. Stop it. This has to do with. More generally with her onlyfans career and just constantly providing satisfactory content for her subscribers. But in other clips that I've heard she talks about, she can't remember the faces of most of the men.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, of course not a hundred in a day. How could you?

[Joe Getty]

And I quote from the Free Press. At first she pretends she's upset because she feels badly that some men haven't been satisfied despite traveling a long way and supporting her. But soon what appears to be the real truth beyond her grief is revealed. Quote. I think it was like feeling so robotic. I've got this routine of how we were going to do this. And like, sometimes you're just disassociated and it's like not normal. And in other words, she was describing separating her body from her soul. Soul. And as this writer points out, the way she describes her experience is virtually indistinguishable from the symptoms of rape trauma syndrome, mood swings, dissociation, self blame, guilt, and sometimes hypersexuality.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then she'll be dealing with a lot of these feelings the rest of her life. And she's only 23. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And this, this writer, it's very good. Gets into various sex workers of various ages in various parts of the world. The whole. I have to deaden my soul. To get through it. Jack A.R.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So we were talking about this only fam fan star who had sex with a hundred guys in a day and they made a documentary about it and it's disgusting. And then we rolled into this Twitter thread that I came across over the weekend about the sexual revolution and out was a lie and it destroyed American families and it made women less happy and maybe agree with that, maybe you don't. Okay, do you want to weigh in on any of this before we get to some texts?

[Joe Getty]

This whole story makes me sick I'm.

[Unknown]

Sorry, it's just listening to that clip of her talking about what about the aftermath.

[Jack Armstrong]

She sounded like a rape victim and it just. This is gonna, this is. She's 23 years old, right. She's got her whole life and she.

[Joe Getty]

I, I just feel very bad for this girl.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's pretty financially successful. I think she got $2 million for this and she has like five employees or something like that lives in London.

[Joe Getty]

Five full time employees.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she's.

[Unknown]

But, but like Is that $2 million?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I wasn't trying to justify it. I just, just throwing that in. A couple of texts we got about this whole topic, this one. I'm afraid she's going to kill herself in the future. I hope not, but that wouldn't shock me. As she gets older it's going to become more clear on just on the idea of the sexual revolution was a, was a lie and nobody benefited. Got this text I thought was interesting. Born in San Francisco. I lived this period, writes this person and I think I know who they are. Even then I thought something was off about it. And now alone without children and a bunch of cats and I can say what a crock of baloney. Interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

From a dude's side of this female. Absolute and relative happiness has gone down since the feminism and sexual libertine culture of the 60s. Women complained, got their way and made themselves less happy. Guess who they're going to blame for their lack of happiness? Most divorced men can tell you. Haha, writes this person.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Well, well, enjoy that. Laughing last. I'm just reminded of the uniform, the Joe Getty Unified Theory of Civilizations that, and there's so many examples of it, it's almost tedious that we veer from one guardrail to the other, never have any idea when we hit the sweet spot and keep going until we've gone way and created a disaster. Then we veer back toward the other guardrail. Another example of this, you know, crime policy back and forth. There are too many people in prison. We're too hard on crime. Well, there's too much crime in the streets. We need to be harder on crime and it just goes back and forth. Sexuality I think is similar. There are a handful of other fairly obvious examples.

[Jack Armstrong]

But on the left side of politics, I don't feel like the left appreciates, appreciate culture at all and the role it plays in society. That doesn't seem to be a concern ever.

[Joe Getty]

No, I think in general on the left, including you know, moderate lefty people that we could work with that would Be fine. We can talk about policy and come to a happy conclusion. There is, in general, much less regard for the importance of culture. I would agree completely. And on your outer left, and I'm not talking about 5%, I'm talking about, like, 25% of the left, they hate the culture and want to destroy it. Back to my theme. A lot of the neo Marxist stuff. They pitch it to you as a way to improve society. They are fully cognizant of the fact that it will not do anything but destroy society. That is their goal. They've written books. Their names are on the spine. This is not my fantasy. They will tell you proudly that this is their goal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Does that bother anybody on the left that the champion of the sexual revolution was out to destroy the American family? Because I thought that would be better for. I mean, I know some of you agree with that, but not most of you.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Anyway, yeah, I just. I will always be amazed till my dying day how few people take the radical left at their word. They have told you precisely what they're doing. And people like me are considered, I don't know, paranoid or whatever. It's not paranoid at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

Religious wacko. We need some really good transition music. Michael, do you need maybe even two different songs?

[Joe Getty]

I got several of them for you. Stereo. Go ahead. Oh, classic. Speaking of Marxism.

[Unknown]

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[Joe Getty]

Take a look. Offering some help. And Vivian, you were so close to that million dollars.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. It's just a regular mom who had a chance at a million dollars if she could have solved. I'm looking at the board there. You got the earring part. Some and help are basically completely solved. Help is solved. Some is missing one letter. So it's just. What is something erring? Some help. Can we hear the beginning of it? I want to hear her guesses.

[Unknown]

Wondering, some help answering, some help. Wondering some help finding some help. Looking around for some help. Boundary for help.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, that's boundary for her.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry. The nice lady didn't win the money, but she. You know why she didn't? Because she's no good at the game.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, she said she was nervous, and I've had that before where I just. I can't. I can't, like, come up with things that if I weren't nervous, I could come up with easily because then, you know, you know, whatever kind of situation.

[Joe Getty]

But which is part of the game she's bad at. Yes, yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boundary for help. Offering for help.

[Joe Getty]

Again, her anguish brings me no joy whatsoever.

[Jack Armstrong]

But, yeah, no. Too bad she missed out on a million dollars. Well, oh, well.

[Joe Getty]

It's the way the cookie crumbles.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is. Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Or is this a sign of the cruel new Ryan Seacrest era on Wheel of Fortune? And we're going to rule that wheel with an iron in which no holds are barred, perhaps. What was the brilliant book? Oh, we interviewed the author. He's a Hoover foundation guy, Hoover Institution guy. But it was about the fact that welfare programs of all sorts expand inevitably. If you have, like, pathetic on the scale of 1 to 100 and you start a program that's for levels 1, 2, and 3, what's the next thing that happens? Level 4. Or advocates for level 4 say, Whoa, whoa, whoa. Level 4 is just one more level of pathetic. Why aren't they getting any help?

[Jack Armstrong]

The book is the High Cost of Good Intentions, and it has so many great examples going clear back to Revolutionary War veterans and how it started with people who fought in the Revolutionary War, then spread to their spouses, then spread to their kids, and it ended up being people who were alive during the Revolutionary War, and it just kept spreading and spreading. And we've done that throughout history.

[Joe Getty]

A guy who once picnicked on Bunker Hill, you know, whatever it was. Yeah, yeah. It inevitably explains. So the mirror image of that, and it's, this is so insidious. But once you catch on to it, nobody gives a crap about billionaires or will shed a single tear. They are an utterly unsympathetic group when it comes to especially being taxed. But you've got this concept of taxing unrealized gains, which has been seen as abhorrent. But if you can get that concept into play against the utterly unsympathetic billionaires, soon it's 100 millionaires, and you're thinking, I still don't give a crap. Oh, wait. And you won't have to wait long, mister. Honey, honey, we just hit $500,000 in the 401k. They are coming for you, man. They absolutely coming for you. The. The income tax originally was extremely narrow. I can't tell you the number of. Of government Social Security. Again, the mirror image was originally for, like, 2% of the population.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you realize how this would work. So you got stock in Tesla or whatever. Tesla goes up a lot this year. Okay, well, you made. You made money. You owe tax on that. So my Tesla Stock went up $50,000, and now I owe you whatever. You'd have to pay 20 grand, even though I haven't cashed it out yet. And of course the Tesla stock could go back down after that. And then what do you do?

[Joe Getty]

So setting aside the whole introducing something abhorrent mission creep principle as we were talking about last hour, it would also be absolutely devastating to the stock market and everybody's 401ks because there would be huge dumping of stock among the investor class. It would be too expensive to keep it, and it would happen year after year after year to avoid taxes and canonomous. Drop me a text. Also, the unrealized gain tax is simply paying the tax on that stuff early. It doesn't make any more money. In fact, it makes less because the asset will not grow as quickly because of the tax being extracted from it. The capital gains tax will be paid upon death or transfer like it is now, but it won't be able to grow as much. What seems like a tax gain is just paying it early. Typical shell game. Taxes are. Now, some people might argue, but billionaires who have, say, a billion dollars worth of stock, they can borrow against that as income and spend that money and live lavishly. And the rest of it, well, go with a value added tax then. If you buy anything, there's a value added tax, but you have to eliminate income taxes and a hundred other dopey, you know, duplicitous taxes. But anyway, that's enough of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I vote on who's got the most joy. I don't pay attention to this stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Amazon announced five days a week Beaches. Sorry, that's the first way to put it. They're telling their corporate staff to be in the office every weekday. There is strang and angst.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've got such a dichotomy of opinions on Amazon. I hate that it's closed down many of my favorite local stores in my small town because they couldn't keep up with Amazon. On the other hand, I wanted a little hair trimmer for my manscaping. Katie, you know how.

[Joe Getty]

Baby oil for your puff daddy.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know how. Katie, how I'm always manscaping. I need. Why are you addressing me for this? I just knew.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, no kidding. Turn off your. Just close your eyes and cover your ears. This is harassment.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because I was gonna mention it and I just knew. You really don't want to hear that.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

You really, really don't even want to think about that. But I bought a manscaping tool on Amazon and I had it in three hours at my house. Now they probably didn't even have what I was looking for.

[Joe Getty]

Film a porn or What? Why do you need a dating party?

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't need it in three hours. I didn't.

[Joe Getty]

I'm going to a freak out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or whatever you call those things. Freak session. Freak. Freak off.

[Joe Getty]

Freak off with this story, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

But how does any store stay open when I can order something and have it in my house in two hours?

[Joe Getty]

I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or tonight. Or tomorrow. I mean, it's amazing. Absolutely amazing. And now I'm well groomed and smooth as a dolphin.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God. Oh God, kill me now. This is the worst 60 seconds ever. Right?

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[Jack Armstrong]

Could spend.

[Unknown]

The rest of my life here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, romantic.

[Joe Getty]

Didn't see that coming.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I think. I think it's a little early for you to say I'll spend the rest of my life here. You're going to freak him out. He's going to run away. How long is our home? How long have you known each other? We lived here. All right, that's enough. Tom Hanks. A young Tom Hanks trying to change his voice. Well, it's an old Tom Hanks trying to sound like a young Tom Hanks because they're doing that de aging technology that most of us hated in the movie the Irishman. If we saw it, I just didn't think it was that great. Anyway, Tom Hanks and Robin Wright pairing again. You remember them? Forrest Gump and a new movie called Here that's getting so much attention because it is set 40 years ago and it looks like Tom Hanks when he was in the TV show Bosom Buddies, at least in the pictures I've seen. And a young Robin Wright. And then. And it's a one like the camera never moves. I've read. I don't understand how that could possibly so be like a play. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, sounds like.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, it's getting a lot of attention for those two gimmicks. Whether or not it's good or not, I have no idea.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Okay. It's not like a Forrest Gump spin off team.

[Jack Armstrong]

Same writer, same director.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

And. And then Tom Hanks and Robin. Right. But most of the time when movies have gimmicks, we de agified or this or that. Oftentimes the gimmick is the main thing they got going for them.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So we'll see.

[Joe Getty]

So Supreme Court decision came out yesterday somewhat about abortion. It's really, it's. It's again fairly murky. It has to do with. Idaho is banned almost all abortions except to save a woman's life or rape and incest, that sort of thing. And the suit said that conflicts with a federal law that says you have to render emergency care to a person to save their life. That supersedes everything or to stabilize their condition. And it's just an argument around the particulars of. All right, stabilize a woman versus saving her life. And what does that mean? And it's really a 3 to 3 to 3 decision that said, no, we're not going to stay this, go ahead and treat these women and if they need an emergency abortion, it's not against the rules, but the lower courts are going to keep looking at this. Plus Idaho has changed its stance a little bit, plus this and that. And it's just, it's not definitive at all like so many of these decisions so far.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's not what I heard. A a bo a bore. Anti abortion activists delta blow by the Supreme Court yesterday.

[Joe Getty]

I suppose that's true, but it's not much of a blow.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not very informative that headline glancing.

[Joe Getty]

Oh no, no. Reporting mainstream media reporting on Supreme Court decisions is practically useless and it might be counterproductive. And we got an email from somebody who is kind of edging close to the point I want to make, so I'll make it. There have been a handful of cases, including important ones like the censorship case where the supes come out with Their decision after months of consideration and wrangling and behind the scenes and blah, blah, blah, it's the end of the session. Here we are at June, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The ones where you say, you know, we don't think that people have standing. Can't you just come? Why don't you figure that out first?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

When you first get together, you look at all the cases and say, all right, let's figure out if everybody's got standing before we waste any more of our time. Come up with a batch of them at up front.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everybody's waiting for the final definitive. Government versus social media companies ruling now. They don't have a standing. Well, why did you say that back in October?

[Joe Getty]

Yoink. We want you to rule. You can't make us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's my least favorite New York Post headline of the day. That's designed to get you to click on it. I applied for Hooters jobs to honor my dad, but I was rejected despite having. I gotta. I gotta say this slow, so you get it all.

[Joe Getty]

It's just two lines, but there's a lot here.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are only two lines, but there's a lot in them. There's much to take in. Paying attention. I applied for a Hooters job to honor my dad. We could unpack that right there. What the. What the hell does that mean? I applied for a Hooters job to honor my dad. Okay, That's.

[Joe Getty]

That's the thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

His dying wish was that his daughter would wear the tiny little orange shorts and the white socks. Yes, Katie.

[Joe Getty]

No, I was just that.

[Unknown]

Or a stripper.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, Anyway.

[Unknown]

Honor thy father.

[Jack Armstrong]

I applied for a Hooters job to honor my dad. I was rejected despite having three boob jobs.

[Joe Getty]

How many are enough?

[Jack Armstrong]

And of course, there's a picture too small to see what's going on that you would click on the story. Boob jobs, you say?

[Joe Getty]

I thought you were going to say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Despite having three boobs, and that was.

[Joe Getty]

Going to be a whole story in itself. Well, you'd think she'd be at least 50% more likely to be hired than the average applicant.

[Jack Armstrong]

You gotta join the circle circus.

[Joe Getty]

I. I haven't been to a circus that features that sort of act in many moons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, you got to go south of the border for that sort of thing.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy. I think I'll stay north.

[Jack Armstrong]

I applied for a Hooters job to honor my dad. What? I was rejected despite having three boob jobs. What? Again? But I did not click on the story, so I have no more you.

[Joe Getty]

Know, I put in an app at Buffalo Wild Wings, but then I thought, what would my dear departed dad want? He'd want me at Hooters, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

One more boob job and I'm gonna fill out the application.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Sometimes business software can't talk to other.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Thanks.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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