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Jack Armstrong
Today it's Christmas day. The presents are open. You're gonna eat a lot of food and you need a little entertainment. Well, thanks for tuning in.
Joe Getty
My beautiful wife and I are probably sitting around looking at each other as our kids are grown and we're here on Thanksgiving and we talked about presents and said the remodel is our present like for the next five years. So you're getting nothing but wow. We have the love of each other, the good Lord and you fabulous people. Hope you're enjoying the Armstrong and Getty Replay. The maker of the robot vacuum Roomba said today that it has filed for bankruptcy. Apparently the whole company got themselves into a corner and couldn't get out.
Jack Armstrong
I only used the first generation Roomba and it was next to worthless. So you have claimed that it's got better over the years.
Joe Getty
It did, it did. Although I stopped using it a couple of years ago. I mean, I keep thinking I should go back to it and then reprogram it and all, but I just haven't.
Jack Armstrong
I was thinking about that with tech this morning because I was having trouble with my Tesla and like the reason I like Tesla and Apple is it almost always does what it's supposed to do and I don't have to like figure anything out. I don't want any tech where I got to figure something out. If I have to figure something out, it ain't worth it to me. I just want it to work the way it's supposed to work. And very few tech things do. The Roomba was that way for me. It's like, okay, if I pick up absolutely Everything and set everything in exactly the right spot. It can do its job. Well, I ain't going to do that.
Joe Getty
So, yeah, it's, it's. I haven't used the new new ones and that sort of technology has just leapt forward. Like I know in the world of golf, automated mowers are huge, Absolutely huge.
Jack Armstrong
I don't doubt that it'll get there. I'm sure. I'm absolutely certain it will, but I don't know if it's there yet.
Joe Getty
Yeah, rooms with a lot going on. Chairs and toys.
Jack Armstrong
You got kids and dogs. It's just, I don't. Speaking of tech guys at Best Buy, I tweeted out a picture of this yesterday. I tried on the latest generation of the Ray Ban glasses that have the tech in them, although I haven't tried the ones that have the screen in them yet. You have to set up an appointment to do that. They won't let you just try that out on your own. You have to make an appointment and do like a 20 minute, they show you how they work thing. So there's the glasses we've talked about before. Our agent uses them all the time. And there's a new generation out that's supposed to be even better. You can answer the phone, you can listen to music, you can variety of things with your glasses on, your sunglasses on or your eyeglasses on if you get the prescription. But then there's the new one that's got this. Got a little screen in there that people looking at you can't see, but you can see it's in one of the lenses. And like you can read your texts and you can have directions on there, like if you're walking down the street and various things like that. Supposed to be pretty cool based on the reviews that I've seen. They're 800 bucks, just kind of pricey. But I'll bet the idea with these smart glasses is that you won't carry your phone. It's going to be the getting away from the phone. You don't carry it anymore. Nobody says we're there yet on those, but I'll bet that is where we're headed. You're gonna wear some sort of glasses. You're not gonna carry a phone. It's all gonna be in your glasses. And that'll be within a couple of years.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I'm hoping to leave tech behind and move to the woods. Like even stuff face of old with Walden Pond and such.
Jack Armstrong
Even stuff that makes your life easier. I don't want things if, like I said, if it doesn't work the way it's supposed to work, first try, I ain't doing it. I don't want harder. I don't want my life to get more complicated. I don't want to get into a manual. I don't have to be on the line with the, with the it. It's just got to work immediately. Like, like most Apple stuff does, like Tesla stuff does. But I, but if it makes your life easier, I'm pro, You know.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I, I, I'm not exactly. But I have the luxury of being in the part of my life, since my kids are grown, of, of seeking simplicity, whereas you don't really have that luxury with your kids and their lives and the rest of it. So your life's pretty simple.
Jack Armstrong
If you're sitting there with your glasses on and a text comes in and you tap your fingers together and say. And you just read it, then you respond to it. Don't have to get out your phone, don't have to do anything.
Joe Getty
It seems pretty simple. You're dancing to the tune of your screen. You're. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Or are you gonna give me texting? Are you gonna go full Walden Pond?
Joe Getty
No, I'm just going to give up being plugged in all the time. I'm going to be doing what I'm doing and not dividing my attention with technology.
Jack Armstrong
But this would be the same amount of texting you're doing now in an easier manner without getting.
Joe Getty
Okay, am I doing a bad job of explaining myself, Katie, do you think, or what?
Jack Armstrong
No, no, I think you're fine.
Joe Getty
I think that the point of trying this, trying to get you away from.
Jack Armstrong
Your phone is crap because you're just putting your phone on your face.
Joe Getty
Well, right. And my point is, all of that s is going to be over and I'm not going to be paying any attention to it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Mountain man, more or less. I'm absolutely convinced that is the route to better mental health and happiness.
Jack Armstrong
Whittling and writing poetry would be the answer.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Poetry about whittling.
Jack Armstrong
Yes. There once was a man who could whittle.
Joe Getty
Right. Don't. Don't get me started. Let's see. See? Spittle George Kittle.
Jack Armstrong
Little.
Joe Getty
Little is the obvious one. Okay, I'm trying to avoid the obvious. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Breaking. Breaking. Not exactly news. This is what everybody's going to be talking about. It just broke in the New York Times minutes ago. Susie Wiles, the White House Chief of Staff, evidently sat down for 11 interviews with either Peter Baker of the New York Times or him and his team. And the quote, unquote, highlights the things she went ahead and said are unfreaking believable given the fact that she's still in the gig. This is like they've been out of office two years and she writes her book. Mr. Trump has an alcoholic's personality. Vice President J.B. vance.
Jack Armstrong
Didn't I say that just a week ago?
Joe Getty
You did.
Jack Armstrong
He's. He's an untreated alcoholic. I've thought that for years.
Joe Getty
Could you give the nickel version for folks who, because he doesn't drink, he's never drank. His brother drank himself to death.
Jack Armstrong
Those of us in the world of alcoholism, most of us, believe the drinking has very little to do with being an alcoholic. It's a, it's one of the many symptoms of being an alcoholic. You're either are or you aren't. And it's got to do with the way your brain works and the way you look at the world and your relationship to it.
Joe Getty
Fair enough. Okay.
Jack Armstrong
And since he's got it in his family, his brother drank himself to death. It makes it fairly likely.
Joe Getty
He certainly has an obsessive. Well, I don't know how you would. I don't know much about that concept, so I'll let you choose the words. But anyway, so she said that Vice President J.D. vance has, quote, been a conspiracy theorist for a decade, and his conversion from Trump critic to ally was based not on principle, but was sort of political because he was running for the Senate. Elon Musk is, quote, an avowed ketamine user who's an odd duck, whose actions were not always rational and left her aghast. Russell T. Vaught, the project director, is a right wing, absolute zealot. Attorney General Pam Bondi completely whiffed in handling the Epstein files, among other quotes. This is very, very long. But this is like when one of those tell all books comes out and everybody goes to the index immediately to see if they're mentioned in it, and then Washington goes wild over it, you know, a couple of weeks or whatever. So far, she's in the gig right now.
Jack Armstrong
So far, those all sound incredibly accurate. Most of them are negative, except I don't think the one on Elon is negative. Yes, he's an odd duck. I'm glad he's an odd duck. He's doing all kinds of things because he's an odd duck.
Joe Getty
Yeah, let's see. She urged Mr. Trump not to pardon the most violent rioters from Jan.6, but which he did anyway. I agree with her on that, she unsuccessfully tried to get him to delay his major tariffs because of huge disagreements among his advisors. She said the administration needs to, quote, look harder at deportations to prevent mistakes. But she did not complain about being overruled. And at various points, she got on board with the eventual decisions. There have been a couple of times where I've been outvoted, she said, and if there's a tie, he wins. Sounds like the, you know, description of the job she has.
Jack Armstrong
Sure.
Joe Getty
Anyway, they'll be buzzing about this all. All day, certainly. And all week.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. It's interesting that she said that about her boss, though, about Donald.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I'm reminded that she grew up with an alcoholic father, the great sportscaster Pat Summerall.
Jack Armstrong
Oh.
Joe Getty
Was.
Jack Armstrong
Did Pat Summerall get sober at some point or was he drinking clear up to the end?
Joe Getty
I remember late in his career, you remember the infamous super bowl clip?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Michael, do we still have that?
Jack Armstrong
That was just being old, though, wasn't it? I'd have to look that. There are games where people believe he was drunk, though, where he sounded drunk.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Well, hey, you're watching a football game, you have a couple of beers. Do the math.
Jack Armstrong
Most of your viewers are drunk.
Joe Getty
We are all drunk together. You're going to be a judge. Put on a robe. Right. All right. Anyway, that's enough of that.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, that's interesting. I want to tell you a little bit where we are in the Ukraine, Russia peace deal thingy. According to the New York Times, the negotiations that went on all weekend and then including yesterday with Zelensky, European leaders, and even Trump getting on the phone at various times to get involved in the meeting. The United States, Ukraine and Europe have agreed on a NATO like guarantee for the security of Ukraine. That is unbelievable. I can't believe this isn't bigger news. Two U.S. officials said yesterday as they tried to come up with a peace proposal that would deter future aggression and still satisfy Russia. Now, they haven't agreed on the whole land thing. Zelensky doesn't want to give up some chunks of land. Trump says, look, they're going to take the land eventually anyway. You should give it up. I don't know how they're going to work that out, but to me, the bigger thing is we're involved in a security guarantee like we'll go to war with Russia if they invade again. We're just going to have that on paper.
Joe Getty
Something that's got to be a Senate ratified treaty, doesn't it?
Jack Armstrong
The United States, Ukraine and Europe have Agreed on a NATO like guarantee. I have no idea. I don't, I don't know enough about that.
Joe Getty
But.
Jack Armstrong
Many European countries have said they will put troops in there. I don't know that we're going to put troops in there. But if we're, if we're signed on to some sort of agreement that if Russia go comes back again, we're in.
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Joe Getty
Where does an agreement end in a treaty begin and Senate ratification become the same?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. Yeah, I have no idea. If I was President Zelensky, I'd want to look into that, make sure it's an agreement that holds.
Joe Getty
Yeah, agreed. Of course, we might be, you know, true. The Euros might be saying we'll throw troops in and we're just saying, yeah, we'll absolutely give you all the arms and whatever.
Jack Armstrong
But I suppose it could be if, for instance, France, Germany and Great Britain are going to have troops in Ukraine and if they were attacked, I suppose our NATO guarantee kicks in at that point.
Joe Getty
Maybe.
Jack Armstrong
I mean, German NATO, lots of NATO troops are being attacked. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Well, yeah, it's funny, I don't think I printed it, but one of our beloved listeners, one of you clever folks, said NATO just needs to invade Ukraine under some idiotic pretext, with Zelensky's permission, have troops all over the place and then say, yeah, yeah, we invaded better than you did, it's ours now and wait for the dust to settle.
Jack Armstrong
Wow, what an interesting idea. NATO invades Ukraine, takes Kyiv using my finger quotes.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
But lets them just operate as they've been operating. But.
Joe Getty
And instead of fighting tooth and nail, the Ukrainians would say, yeah, you need to go to the stop sign and take a left. And that's where they would help.
Jack Armstrong
And NATO would just say, this is NATO territory.
Joe Getty
Right. Or our troops are here. Attack on one is an attack on all, so you got to stop attacking.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. I don't know where this is going. Pretty interesting, though.
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Jack Armstrong
I've said this many times after years of trying a number of different kinds of therapy for me and my family, kids, marriage, all kinds of different stuff. I think it's mostly worthless. I really do. I really do. I think it's mostly a waste of money, unfortunately. But this is pretty good. From a marriage psychologist who reveals the number one sign of a future separation. And this stuff is almost always crap, especially if it's in the New York Post, which is where I got this, but I thought this was really good. If you want to know if your marriage is heading to splitsville, don't check your partner's phone. Check their face. Like any of that, you know, oh, there's so many stupid things out there. You know, the one sign that he's gonna cheat or whatever the hell. I mean, they're just all dumb.
Joe Getty
But clickbait.
Jack Armstrong
The subtle smirk of superiority is the number one red flag for divorce, according to this psychologist. And they get into why. Research found that four nasty little habits criticism, contempt, defensiveness and stonewalling are the four horsemen of the apocalypse when it comes to dooming relationships. I'll read those four again. Criticism, contempt, defensiveness and stonewalling. But contempt is the kiss of death. That's the one. And you've said that for years. That's the one you can't get past. Done the largest marriage experiment ever done. They think of couples that, you know, survive and don't survive. Body language experts brought couples into a lab and if one member of the couple shows a one sided mouth raise, which I had never heard before as like a physical contempt thing, but I guess we're just programmed when we're feeling that feeling of contempt for something or you know, the old pleaser, get out of here with that BS or whatever feeling, you raise one side of your mouth, it's funny. If one member of the couple shows a one sided mouth raised towards the other, he can tell you if they're going to get divorced because it's contempt. He could predict divorce with an astonishing 94% accuracy.
Joe Getty
Fear.
Jack Armstrong
Now this is part I thought was really interesting. Fear comes in a burst and then you calm down. Happiness comes and then you go back to normal. Anger comes and then you calm down. But not contempt. If you feel scorn or disdain for someone else and if it's not addressed, it just festers and grows and stays at the same level. Fear, anger, and then obviously happiness, you get back to a, a normal level. Contempt does not go away.
Joe Getty
May I throw in a definition of contempt? The feeling that a person or a thing is beneath consideration, worthless or deserving. Scorn. There's no coming back from that.
Jack Armstrong
I've not felt contempt, but I, I have been on the wrong end of contempt, I think. And having read this, I thought, yeah, that's what was insurmountable. I mean, because once you have contempt for someone, you don't agree, you don't think they are worth listening to on anything.
Joe Getty
This is how I feel. This is my priority. I don't care.
Jack Armstrong
Right, yeah, that's a tough one to get past. So look out for contempt and, and whatever started to bring it on, the point is you start to deal with it right away. Otherwise it does just grow and fester and then it gets into a situation where it might not, might not be reversible. They also believe that many couples get in and stuck in an endless loop of the same thing three arguments throughout the relationship. They just don't realize it. And if you can nail down what your three most common arguments are, you and your partner, you can solve a lot of problems. Like you get into something, you say, okay, here we're in argument number two again. We always argue about this and you can, you know, realize that, you know, you don't see eye to eye in this particular thing and how you've dealt with it in the past. Back to the contempt thing. Disgust and contempt are to a relationship with gasoline and matches are to a fire. The telltale signs are eye rolling, mouth crimping and then subtle fidgeting like picking it clothes or cleaning fingers mid conversation as signals of disdain. This person said that they dubbed this move the lint picker. A behavior that he says screams contempt louder than words ever could.
Joe Getty
Interesting. You know, it's probably worth presenting the other side of the coin at some point. We don't have time now, but how do you prevent that sort of thing? Nip it in the bud?
Jack Armstrong
Having lint on your shirt?
Joe Getty
No contempt in your mar. No.
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Jack Armstrong
Today Biden spoke at a bipartisan event to encourage Democrats and Republicans to work to protect Social Security together, which seems about as likely to happen as a reboot of Fiddler on the Roof starring Kanye West. But Social Security is number one for Joe Biden. Literally his Social Security number is one that's kind of interesting as a lead into this, Republicans and Democrats not being able to work together. It would seem that they could work together on cutting spending based on this polling that just came out from the Cato Institute. Cato is a serious think tank. It's a conservative think tank. They worked with YouGov on this survey and it's one of your, you know, really big, large number of people, wide reaching, lots of questions sort of survey that comes out every once in a while from these think tanks. I don't know which of these numbers is my favorite. There's a lot of them that are just mind blowingly make me happy. But I can't believe because the public will is a real big part of getting anything done in a democracy. Obviously if if you got big majorities of people that want something to happen, you should be able to get it to happen and run on it. Here's my favorite of all the spending we've done in the last 10 years and we've done a lot of spending in the last 10 years. 85%. Now that's a big number. Whenever you get 85% of people in agreement on something, you'd think you could get political will to do something. 85% say that spending has either not helped them or made their lives worse. 85%. That's astounding. You wouldn't get that from taking it in through the mainstream media who feels like all government programs are wonderful and doge trying to cut back on any of them is a horror. 85% of Americans say all that spending has either not done anything for me or actually made My life worth worse. 42% no impact. 43% say it reduced their quality of life.
Joe Getty
Wow, that's got to be inflation, which is the greatest teacher of economic principles in the history of mankind.
Jack Armstrong
Well, or is it just. I, I regularly say, and this. I, this is true for me in my own personal life, I believe the government stops me from doing things more than it helps me?
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Jack Armstrong
I mean, and, and, well, do you.
Joe Getty
Drive on the roads? Yeah, we. We know you're an idiot.
Jack Armstrong
Course. Go listen to music, you.
Joe Getty
I'm not even going to explain why you're a moron. You moron.
Jack Armstrong
And by the way, this is a nonpartisan observation. Eight in 10 Democrats and nine in 10 Republicans believe that the increase in federal spending has either made their lives not better or worse.
Joe Getty
Boy, this is really heartening.
Jack Armstrong
I know.
Joe Getty
If the Republicans can keep between the ditches and not roll the car of their messaging over, it seems to me like the. The ground is super fertile for some good solid conservatism in the years to come.
Jack Armstrong
Three quarters of Americans say the government spends too much.
Joe Getty
Love that.
Jack Armstrong
76% the government spends too much. And again, it's not a partisan thing at all. Majorities of Democrats, 59% of Democrats think the government spends too much money. Well, you'd never get that from the main. From your mainstream media coverage.
Joe Getty
Yeah. And the question of what do you cut and how and how much, that's, you know, the devil is in the details, but do have an enormous generalized agreement that, yeah, we need to cut again, 2/3. You get the opposite message from all of the coverage of Doge, for instance.
Jack Armstrong
So almost everyone agrees there is waste, fraud and abuse in the federal government. The number is 98%. I don't know if I've ever seen a poll that reached 98%. Usually you have more than 2%. They're like, no opinion or, I don't know, refused to answer.
Joe Getty
Yeah, but would you like me to stab you right now? You might get 98% saying, no, no opinion. I'm not sure. Stab me with what?
Jack Armstrong
98% broadly agree there is waste, fraud or abuse in the federal government. Of course, to say no, you'd be a crazy person. About half say there is a great deal.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And 20, a moderate amount.
Joe Getty
If hundreds of millions of dollars isn't a great deal to you. What are you, Elon Musk or something, man?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, like I said, there's so many good numbers here, I don't even know which ones to pick out the most. This One, one of the reasons this got attention was some of the tax stuff yesterday. 55 of Americans think their taxes are too high, which I thought was really.
Joe Getty
Interesting, especially, especially given what we were talking about yesterday on tax day, that the top 40% or so of income levels pay all of the income tax.
Jack Armstrong
But 55 of Americans think their taxes are too high. 55. Same number believe they pay more than their fair share in taxes. That obviously is interesting given the fact that half the country does not pay federal taxes.
Joe Getty
Federal income tax, although you have to remember, you know, property tax hammers, a lot of people, sales tax, sales tax.
Jack Armstrong
I think is probably what gets a lot of people.
Joe Getty
Sure.
Jack Armstrong
How about the controversial Trump tax cuts from 2017 and whether they should be extended or not? According to this, 85% of Americans support extending the 2017 tax cuts.
Joe Getty
85%. It's a gift of millionaires and billionaires.
Jack Armstrong
How is this a controversial issue if.
Joe Getty
The mainstream media was not what they are? Could Democrats win a single election as they're currently constituted? I don't think so. They need some of the best wordsmiths. Well, actually, most journalists are wordsmiths at all. They're parrots. But they need the power of the media colossus to polish their.
Jack Armstrong
Their.
Joe Getty
Their poop, if you will. I'm sorry, I just didn't want to use that common expression, polishing a turd, because it's disgusting. But that's essentially. But it's good, though. It's illustrative, Jack. I mean, it really makes the point.
Jack Armstrong
There'S got to be a better one. There's got to be a better one.
Joe Getty
Is there?
Jack Armstrong
There's got to be. That doesn't include the T word.
Joe Getty
Thoroughly lipsticking the pig of their policies. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
So three quarters of people agree with the statement the 2017 tax cuts should be made permanent because businesses and families need stability of the tax code to plan for the future. 3/4 agree with that. Also, 3/4 agree that tax cuts should be made permanent because taxes are too high. Three quarters of Americans think the Trump tax cuts should be made permanent because taxes are too high.
Joe Getty
Wow. Did you hear the part about the millionaire? Oh, you did? You're rejecting it?
Jack Armstrong
I got to get to that, then, since you brought that up. Do the spending, because you'll. That fits in perfectly what you just said. A majority of Americans admire the rich. 65. Two thirds disagree with the statement wealth should be taken from the rich and given to the poor. Two thirds of Americans disagree with that.
Joe Getty
Wow. This is a different country than the media would have you believe. Vastly different.
Jack Armstrong
Three out of five Americans strongly agree, 90% strongly or somewhat agree that quote. There's nothing wrong with trying to make as much money as you can. 90% strongly or somewhat agree with that.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
When asked specifically about billionaires, 71% disagree that it's immoral for society to allow people to become billionaires. 71% don't agree with that statement. You hear it all the time from the aoc, Bernie crowd, Elizabeth Warren crowd, and they put it on the news like that's, you know, representing half of America.
Joe Getty
Right, Right. Yeah. And anybody who does think we should make it impossible to, you know, become a billionaire, you just, you so dumb. You are so dumb. We just need you to get out of the way, please. As you come up with a great idea that one person likes and it makes you a dollar, that's fine. If a million people like that idea and give you a dollar, that's fine. But if a billion people like that idea and give you a dollar, that's wrong.
Jack Armstrong
It's flat out, it's immoral.
Joe Getty
Again, you're just so dumb, you need to get out of the way.
Jack Armstrong
Well, not near as many people agree with that as I thought and I've been misled myself and you know, we're in the industry and, and taking lots of media and read lots of polls, but I, I've been misled to think there that in modern America there were way more people that hate the rich and think something's wrong there then it seems to be true. Two thirds think wealth should not be taken from the rich and given to the poor.
Joe Getty
I'm sorry, I just didn't know. So I think part of the reason that our perception might be a little warped is that even some of my favorite conservative journalists are of the coastal elite variety. And they're nice fellas and they have great principles, but I don't think they know America. And listen, they don't.
Jack Armstrong
Absolutely do not.
Joe Getty
This is going to sound awfully like self back patting, but I think as a couple of guys from, you know, fairly average families in the Midwest, I don't feel like an elite anything. I've never hung out with those people. I wouldn't be comfortable there. I would much rather, you know, drink beer with my neighbor Larry the truck driver.
Jack Armstrong
I just.
Joe Getty
And I think maybe we have that advantage and we all of us friends have to trust our own perceptions instead of that of the bizarro funhouse mirror of the media. I know a lot of you already.
Jack Armstrong
Believe that the fact that 85% of people say all that government spending has done nothing for them or made their lives worse is amazing. Something.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And you know, over half of people saying my taxes are too high. All that fitting together. How do we not get a government that spends less and keeps taxes low?
Joe Getty
Well, I think, you know, part of the answer would be the swamp, which includes many Republicans and Democrats who have a enormous financial interest in keeping government huge.
Jack Armstrong
Right. There are solid majorities and I could do more of the numbers, but I don't want to bore you to death, but the solid majorities of people that think it's the spending, it's not the taxing. I mean, that is a settled issue in this country. It's the spending, not the taxing. And we need to deal with it from a spending standpoint. So we're not getting the government we deserve on this front.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. So true. It's encouraging. People believe that in the numbers that they do, it is discouraging that we are fighting to make any progress in reining in the insanity. But I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Right. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Because our duty as citizens. So I guess we keep trying.
Jack Armstrong
Sometimes it's barely. You're barely able to believe that democracy works. I mean, you know, look at the border issue. That's what I've been saying for years. It's not controversial at all either. Like 90% of people want to secure border, but we haven't been able to do it in my entire adult lifetime.
Joe Getty
Right, right.
Jack Armstrong
Very frustrating.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah, it is.
Jack Armstrong
Nice job of those of you out there who agree that all this spending has made your life worse. If anything, that's amazing.
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Joe Getty
Today absolutely need a moonshot style effort to reform education in this country because it is absolutely killing us. Michael, it's a Campus Madness update. Good and bad news edition.
Jack Armstrong
Good and bad news. SCREAMING what the hell was that?
Joe Getty
That was madness, you idiot.
Jack Armstrong
On campus. Oh my God. That was quite a scream.
Joe Getty
Yeah, no kidding.
Jack Armstrong
Well done, Michael. So a disembowelment figures into the story somehow.
Joe Getty
So. Well, metaphorically speaking. So we'll start with some good news. Really interesting piece about Tufts University, which is to the left of Trotsky, Boston area, but there's a professor by the name of Hirsch there who teaches a class on American conservatism that is always 100% enrolled and extremely popular. And he, a man of the sane center left, has them read Frederick Hayek's Road to Serfdom, Ayn Rand's the Nature of Government, and then has lefty writers assigned as well that says, all right, let's talk about this issue. And it is a classic American education where you have to understand both sides before you say which one you're on. And he is systematically steel manning conservator arguments for the college kids. And the really encouraging part about this is the kids love it.
Jack Armstrong
That's interesting.
Joe Getty
And poll after poll has shown that a lot of college kids resent the cancel culture and the bully culture and the radical culture, but they just, they're afraid or, you know, intimidated into silence. And there's a lot more curiosity out there than I think you would think from looking at college campus.
Jack Armstrong
God, are we actually coming out of peak that and we'll never have to deal with it again, at least in our lifetimes. I mean, did we just live through the pendulum swinging to the far end of that nuttiness? I sure hope so.
Joe Getty
I don't know. I don't know. I'm a little afraid of it being like a sports team that, you know, has a very bad beginning the season, then they win six in a row and you think, all right, and then that is just a blip and they go back to being bad. I think there's so much of a fight to go on. But let me plunge on here. We can talk about this at length. Great piece in the Free Press about how all over the country, including in some surprising places, educators are covering up for their own failures wholesale. We have, we should have the best education system in the world, they write. We should have an education system that reflects us being a superpower. But there's no one with a straight Face who can say that the United States has a world class education system and that's from a higher up in the New Jersey Department of Education, now retired. But they go through place after place where because they are failing to meet any standard, they are systematically changing the standards. Including this shocked me. In 2024, Oklahoma schools seemed to perform a miracle. They went from 24% proficiency in reading to 47% in two years, doubling the previous figure.
Jack Armstrong
You see that number in a year, you know something funky happens.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, indeed. If it sounds too good to be true, that's because it was in. Last year. Oklahoma lowered its cut scores, the score a student needs to hit on test to be considered proficient.
Jack Armstrong
Unbelievable. That's good Heart's law.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Once. Once a measure becomes a goal, it ceases to be a good measure.
Joe Getty
Yep. Trend is also happening in New York State after not a single eighth grader in the upstate city of Schenectady tested proficient in math in 2022, state officials lowered the scores the following year. Wisconsin scores last year, Illinois is about to lower its scores, etc. Etc. It's a lot of blue states, but Oklahoma shocked me.
Jack Armstrong
We've done it in California a couple of times. Well, it speaks as much to the nature of bureaucracy as liberalism. Well, it's a good hearts law. I mean that seems to be a law no matter what, no matter your politics. You come up with a goal or you measure something, then you come up with a goal and then you just fudge to meet the goal and so the measure doesn't work anymore and that's it happens over and over again. I could come up with a hundred.
Joe Getty
Examples off the top of my head.
Jack Armstrong
Because I think it's a fascinating aspect of the way the human brain works. But how are there not People raise their hand, say we can't be lowering the standards, we need to raise the quality.
Joe Getty
Yeah, right, right. Lift up the children, don't drop the standards. That'd be a good slogan. Veering back to good news, the Department of education on Friday Canc, which still exists, apparently canceled $15 million in federal grants that were used to fund diversity programs at three universities in California State, Louisiana, Virginia Commonwealth and University of St. Thomas in Minnesota. All had received giant multimillion dollar grants, part of a billion dollars, a billion that the Biden Education Department spent on diversity programs in America's schools, nearly half of which went to grants for race based least hiring, that is at least temporarily on the way out. Now back to bad news. Two stories here that are adjoined at the hip Brown University Medical School. That's one of your elite Ivy Leaguers, by the way. Elite. I almost vomit when I say that about these universities. But they now give diversity, equity and inclusion more weight than excellent clinical skills in its promotion criteria for faculty, raising questions duh. About the quality of teaching and patient care at the elite medical school and underscoring how deeply DEI is penetrated medical education. Again, when they decide what faculty to promote, they now give DEI more weight than excellent clinical skills.
Jack Armstrong
I saw that over the weekend. I meant to mention it on the air. That is absolutely amazing. I was looking at the actual paperwork, the criteria and and really your plan for how you're answering the question of how you're going to get diversity, equity and inclusion into your your medical practice is more important than your actual skills, right? That is how or as important how is that even possible the Armstrong and.
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Episode Date: December 25, 2025
On this special Christmas Day episode, Armstrong & Getty offer listeners a blend of lighthearted holiday introspection and sharp analysis on contemporary technology, politics, relationships, government spending, and the state of American education. The hosts deliver their signature blend of humor and skepticism, dissecting trending topics and news with personal anecdotes and notable studies. The show effectively covers everything from smart glasses and tech fatigue to polling on U.S. spending and the ongoing debate over education standards.
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This Armstrong & Getty replay hour offers a holiday blend of social commentary, personal anecdotes, and data-driven insight. The episode stands out for its nuanced discussion of real-world poll data versus media narratives, skepticism toward government and institutional “solutions,” and concern over both the direction and standards of American education—all delivered with humor and authenticity true to the show’s original tone.