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Joe Getty
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Joe Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio.
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Jack Armstrong
Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack.
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
Philadelphia Zoo announced last week that a pair of nearly 100 year old tortoises recently welcomed their first hatchlings. You may have seen the tortoises on The MTV show 99 and pregnant.
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Jack Armstrong
Markets are surging. If you're listening to us live. So the bounce back has begun and moving up. Get into that later also. Latest polling on the whole tariff thing. Get into that later also. And oh, and I just saw real. The real ID deadline is a month away. This is going to be my all time greatest hit screw up. Because it's been. I've seen it coming for so long and known the entire time for years that at some point I will be at an airport ready to get on a plane someplace I need to go. Yes, and they'll say, we no longer accept your driver's license. You need your real id. Even though I knew it for years, I am. That is going to happen to me.
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Joe Getty
It's like your high school teacher assigned you a book report due in 20 years and you waited until the last night and you're up all night, Right?
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Jack Armstrong
That is going to happen to me.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. It's funny, Judy and I heard that report and I have a feeling I spoke for many, many millions of Americans. When I said, do we have real IDs? I've completely lost track. Is ours real? She looked at it and said, yeah, yes we do. How that happened, I don't recall.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, I sure don't have one.
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Joe Getty
Are you sure?
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Jack Armstrong
I'm positive.
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Joe Getty
You might. When did you last renew your license?
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Jack Armstrong
I don't know.
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Joe Getty
So, so your driver's license, is it. Yeah. Oh, it is. Well, maybe I do have a real life. Like the updated. Does it have like a hologram Y looking thing on there or.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, maybe I do have it.
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Joe Getty
Done and done, sir. That's my point. Nobody has any idea. But it's critically Important. Yeah. So speaking of economics and that sort of thing, which a lot of people are doing these days in reference to the tariffs. But this too shall pass, I hope, eventually. And some of the support and lack of support are coming from some interesting areas for the tariffs. And we can talk about that more later, but I'm kind of tariffed out. We brought this up kind of briefly at the end of the show yesterday.
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Jack Armstrong
I could talk about tariffs for many more hours.
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Joe Getty
Well, you should feel free. How about one room over. Anyway, I found this so interesting. Big survey of America's employers, especially manufacturers. They cannot find reliable conscientious workers who can pass a drug test. A good worker, like a good man can be hard to find these days. And who is this writing in the. Alicia Finley, who I think is a terrific writer, but she says blame government, which showers benefits on able bodied people who don't work while at the same time subsidizing college degrees that don't lead to productive employment. And the result is millions of idle men and millions of unfilled jobs. What an economist would call a deadweight lost to society.
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Jack Armstrong
So failing the drug test, is it mostly the marijuana, the Mary Jane, the lettuce, the hippie Lettuce?
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Joe Getty
Lettuce, yeah. I don't know. I suspect so though. Sure, I think it's mostly pot, but I think that's just brilliantly. Simply put, we are showering benefits on able bodied people and subsidizing useless college degrees as, as a people because the government is theoretically doing our work right. Well, I for one don't like either end of that anyway. 40% of small business owners in March reported job openings they could not fill. Construction companies, 56% said, yeah, we have unfilled jobs and we can't find anybody. Transportation, I have a feeling that's mostly truck drivers. 53% manufacturing, which the President is, according to many people, admirably trying to shepherd back inside the country more. 47% of manufacturers say, no, we've got openings we can't fill. Well, so that's according to last week's National Federation of Independent Business survey.
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Jack Armstrong
That might be a flaw in the President's plan that hasn't been discussed enough. He wants to bring back the 50s or 70s or whatever golden era of manufacturing that we used to have. But back then people would do those jobs, jobs we if, if half the manufacturing jobs out there or you can't fill now, what if manufacturing did come back to the United States? Who's who in theory is going to do those jobs?
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Joe Getty
Well, not illegal immigrants because thank God, the border's been closed and the statistics are astounding. Biden was a scoundrel anyway.
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Jack Armstrong
Was it going to be the woman's studies major from your local university that goes works there? Probably not.
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Joe Getty
Well, it could well be the dudes who have no disability on disability who are heaved off of that system. But that would take some tough love and that's not very popular, politically speaking. I mean, if you go into one of the districts of the Rust Belty places or Appalachia or whatever where you have just ludicrous levels of people on disability. Happened to read a couple things about this recently, didn't, you know, flog you with it on the air. But. And if you go into those places and say we're kicking off everybody on disability who's not like, missing a limb, you will lose an election by 70 points, if that's even possible. Once people are on the tole, man, once people have a benefit, whether legitimate or perhaps questionable, taking it away is political poison. As you know, labor departments job openings and labor turnover Survey of businesses tell a similar story. There are twice as many job openings in manufacturing now than in the mid-2000s as a sheriff. Employment. Save for the pandemic, America's workers shortage is the worst in 50 years. Decades ago, productivity enhancing technology and yes, inexpensive imports caused men who worked on shop floors to lose their jobs and drop out of the workforce. But that generation is sailing into the sunset and there are many fewer young Americans who want to work in factories. Listen to this. Now the labor force participation rate among young among working age men is now about 4,5 percentage points lower than in the early 80s. Okay, this is not like the 1910s. This is the 1980s. 5 points lower. As a result, there are about 3 1/2 million fewer men between the ages 25 and 54 in the workforce and 1.3 million between the ages of 25 and 34.
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Jack Armstrong
Even with a significantly bigger population than we had in the 80s.
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Joe Getty
Right. Then there would have been, were it not for this decline. Labor participation among working age women, on the other hand, recently hit a record in part because they are having fewer children and then people aren't coupling and that sort of thing. At the risk of stereotyping, women are more inclined toward helping professions such as services than those that require physical labor. Well, that's just true. It's undeniable.
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Jack Armstrong
So I've not done a manufacturing sort of job before, so I don't know what it's like, but I certainly feel like there's a social stigma around it that doesn't help.
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Joe Getty
True.
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Jack Armstrong
Why it is. Why there's not a social stigma around having a meaningless soul deadening paper pushing job in a cubicle. I don't know why that is. I mean maybe the other way around should be. There shouldn't be any stigma around any jobs. Working for a living is considerably better than not whatever the hell you're doing.
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Joe Getty
So I always the vestige of the 20th century where a job where you used your brain as opposed to your back was seen as a higher status job.
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Jack Armstrong
I don't know some of these jobs.
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Joe Getty
Or you use your brain. That's barely not much.
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Jack Armstrong
I mean but they certainly don't seem like they'd be much more enjoyable as starter jobs.
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Joe Getty
Right. Tedious is tedious. I, I had a sort of manufacturing job for one summer and it was pretty tedious, honestly. But I'm sure it is. I, you know why I go went ahead and took it and kept it. It was because it paid pretty good. It was my best option. Right. So. Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
And you got in you and well, you should have to make a living. You got to support yourself somehow.
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Joe Getty
No you don't. What kind of monster are you? Listen to this, would you? So where have all the good working men gone? Some are subsisting on government benefits or living off their parents. About 17% of working age men are on Medicaid. 17% 7 1/2% on food stamps and 6.3% on Social Security. Many claiming disability payouts according to the census Bureau. Many spend their days playing video games and day trading.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, day trading, hilarious.
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Joe Getty
Speculating on meme stocks or you tell.
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Jack Armstrong
Somebody you're day trading. I don't know how often you're actually trading and making any money because you don't want to say I just play video games and live in my parents basement. So you say you're a day trader. So I don't remember our good friend Craig the healthcare genius's statistics but if I remember correctly, originally Medicaid was only supposed to cover like a tiny percentage of people, period.
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Joe Getty
Now it's covering percent maybe now it's.
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Jack Armstrong
Covering and that would have been of like the old and you know, people that have got all kinds of physical or mental problems. Now it's 17 of working age men.
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Joe Getty
Not.
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Jack Armstrong
Not like senior citizens.
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Joe Getty
That's nice. Yeah. A couple more stats. Other missing men are taking longer to finish college or pursuing graduate degrees. Only about 41 of men complete a Bachelor's degree in four years even though study after study Shows they don't teach. You don't have to work. There's great inflation. It's dopey. Only 41% and a quarter take more than six years. Wow.
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Jack Armstrong
Because you're in no hurry to get out of college. My dad used to comment about perpetual college students, and I never really understood what he was talking about. And I'm sure it was a small number of people back when he was in college, but now it is a lot, apparently. I'll just stay in college. I'll just keep borrowing money and because I'm too young or. Or.
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Joe Getty
Or.
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Jack Armstrong
Or unwise to understand what I'm doing. And I'll just keep this game going of I get to sit around with my friends and discuss the world without ever having to engage in it.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. And I have disability. My thumb hurts on Thursdays. Final stat. Then I'll. I will. I will stop. We're just. We are a fat, lazy, comfortable society.
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Jack Armstrong
We're headed to France.
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Joe Getty
Right? We are headed straight toward France. Yeah. The unemployment rate, Jack, consider this. Among recent college grads with a sociology degree is about 7%. And their median wage, if they do have a gig, is $45,000, according to the Federal Reserve Bank. SOC grads could earn twice as much working on an auto assembly line, which pays an average hundred thousand dollars a year. Good gig, but not many want it. The reality is that masses of young people, writes Alicia Finley, who again is a genius, has been taught that capitalism is exploitive. They don't want to work in factories. They'd rather mooch off taxpayers or their parents. How Karl Marx is that?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, some of it is that, I'm sure, but I just. I think a lot of it is just the cultural. That would be embarrassing for your parents and for you if you worked over at the.
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Joe Getty
Whatever. Factory.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. More embarrassing in our current society than if you just live at home. And, you know, you say you're a day trader. It shouldn't be more embarrassing to have a job at a plant than to live with your parents. But I think it is.
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Joe Getty
Or having taken six years to get an undergrad degree in gender studies, you're now getting a master's degree in the theoretical decolonialization of art or whatever the f. Oh, good times make for soft people. Man, There is no more iron law of humanity than that Armstrong and Gettysburg. The Armstrong and Getty show. So you. I've waited on more people at this restaurant than you have in your goddamn life. Say the waiters and waitresses of Washington D.C. jack, where you just Were the Washingtonian, which is read in the self obsessed nation's capital, has a piece about how D.C. restaurants have long been like politically neutral spaces. Obviously, to cite the cliched example, you got Reagan coming in, you got Tip o' Neill coming in.
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Jack Armstrong
Right.
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Joe Getty
So you treat everybody with respectfully. But that changed during the Trump years. Restaurant owners became much more politically outspoken. They were part of the resistance and Trump officials became social pariahs when dining out. You remember several incidents involving Ted Cruz and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who got kicked out of a restaurant in West Lexington, Virginia. Homeland Secretary Kirsten Nielsen's dinner at a D.C. mexican restaurant. Mexican restaurant was interrupted as they yelled shame. Stephen Miller tossing $80 worth of takeout sushi after somebody cursed him and flipped him off at a sushi place. Somebody on the staff. But anyway, in the Washington Washingtonian, anyway, you got all these restaurateurs and waiters and bartenders saying, we're not going to be silen violent. We're not going to be quote unquote, civil. Let's see, here's this guy. What does he do? He's a D.C. restaurant. He's a manager at a, at a club, big club in D.C. if you're just going out for a nice dinner, it's your anniversary or birthday, and God forbid, RFK Jr. Is sitting next to you now, you're going to be dealing with whatever repercussions happen from that. He's saying all this restaurant staff is justified into cursing these people out and yelling at them and kicking them out.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, we'll see if this actually happens or not. Like I said, bumping around D.C. it was quite a bit different than the last time I was in D.C. when Trump got elected, he was being treated like a regular president. I mean, the number of Trump shirts, hats, pins, inauguration, 47th president stuff that I saw, there was nothing like that in 2017 when I was there for the inauguration.
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Joe Getty
Right. Yeah. In fact, that was my question. I wonder if this is just big talk by little people.
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Jack Armstrong
That'd be my guess.
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Joe Getty
Here's a woman who's a server and manager at a saloon on Capitol Hill. Quote, people were a lot more motivated the first time around to do these kinds of shows of passion this time around. There's kind of a sense of defeat and acceptance. But I hope that people will still do stand up to this administration and tell them their thoughts on their misbehavior as they're trying to get a ham sandwich at lunchtime.
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Jack Armstrong
Here's my biggest question about restaurants. D.C. restaurants because I had this and I tweeted it out and it's the most controversial tweet I've ever put out, ever. It got more responses than anything I've ever tweeted. This question. So I made it in Gordon Ramsay's restaurant, which I wish I'd have spent the time to look into what it cost to eat there, because it's the most expensive meal I've ever paid for for me and my two kids. Partially because there was the we've added to 20% already thing that restaurants are doing sometimes now.
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Joe Getty
And so service charge. Is that what they call it?
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Jack Armstrong
Or it just said, yeah, we've, we've added a 20% service charge to your bill. And then it's got the line for the tip. And I thought, do I tip on top of this or not? And I tweeted that out, I googled it and tweeted it and same, same result. Either way, plenty of people say, absolutely, that's not the tip. You need to tip on top of that, you're screwing your server. Or 100%. That's the tip. No way you should give any more money. I still don't know what the answer is on that. But obviously if they add 20% and I didn't know they were going to do that or I wouldn't have gone. If they add 20% and I'm supposed to tip 20%, that's 40% on top of my meal. That's a no go.
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Joe Getty
That's a second group that. That is the tip.
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Jack Armstrong
No freaking way I'm eating there. A whole bunch of people adamantly said no. That goes to the restaurant. The the server will get nothing and you absolutely need to tip on top of that. Maybe that's true, but I'll never eat at a restaurant that does that. You can't pay 40% on top of your bill. Nobody's doing that.
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Joe Getty
That's ridiculous.
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Jack Armstrong
It is ridiculous. I don't know what the correct answer is either. Or if it varies from restaurant to restaurant. If you know, text line 415295 KFTC. But what the hell.
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Joe Getty
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Joe Getty
So this is so interesting came across this the other day a couple of scientists writers commentaries who ran into each other after the one published a piece on why young men have turned against the Democratic Party and this other guy, this other researcher said hey, I've actually been doing studies in that area. Let's get together and talk about it and compare notes and and they came. They've come out with a really really interesting report. Young people in general report fairly miserable mental health with high rates of anxiety and depression. But this is particularly true for young women and and they make the point that assumptions Democrats make about how to attract younger voters may not appeal to men for various reasons. But they point out that this that it the one report they looked at buried the most interesting finding which is that conservatives have much higher self reported mental health than liberals.
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Jack Armstrong
Is this surprising to anyone? No, no.
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Joe Getty
The. The really interesting part is still to come. Self reporting, grain of salt, but just a grain, not a shaker. Why?
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Jack Armstrong
I don't know. On self reporting on your mental health.
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Joe Getty
It could be that in certain communities it is taboo to be honest about your mental health.
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Jack Armstrong
I think it's more likely the other direction. But, yeah, I'm just trying to be fair that in more communities it's the greatest prize of all to explain how I have anxiety and. And depression and ocd and all these other things.
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Joe Getty
I agree with you completely and I'm glad you pointed that out. It's a wide gap, too, between conservatives and liberal. According to this giant study with 60,000 respondents, that provides the opportunity for highly detailed demographic analysis. Among people who report excellent mental health, conservatives outnumber liberals 51 to 20 as a ratio, but liberals outnumber conservatives 45 to 19. Among those voters who say they have poor mental health, this is not the.
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Jack Armstrong
Least bit surprising to me.
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Joe Getty
What's. What's interesting. And they assigned points. So 100 point scale, 0 is poor mental health. 25 is fair. 50 is good, 75 is very good. 100 is excellent.
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Jack Armstrong
I think I go, if. What would you say for yourself? I'm going, I would say very good. Others might disagree with me who know me, but I feel like I'm very good. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Can we have a round of rating where we rate each other? Too full of people who are crazy.
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Jack Armstrong
So it helps me stand out. I feel like.
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Joe Getty
Are you graded on a curve in this? I don't know. So here's the first thing that popped into my mind is. And part of the reason I leapt to this thought was because we came across an absolutely fantastic quote which I've misplaced. Damn it. That women more. More than men, not all women, but women in general, and like effeminate men, filter information through a process not of is this true? But will believing this gain me social currency and acceptance? Will the group accept me for adopting this attitude? And so the first thing I thought was, okay, maybe people of an unhappy or mentally fragile bent need more support, and so they tend toward liberalism. Well, it's funny, I had that thought and the guys immediately got to the question. They said, could this reflect a spurious correlation? In other words, that voters with characteristics associated with lower happiness tend to be attracted to liberalism, but that political attitudes themselves don't tell you much on their own? In short, no. They write, or at least probably not. The difference between liberals and conservatives is remarkably persistent and. And Even once you control for those factors then they explain going to give you a long chart with those point values that I talked about. The average American self reports at 60 on the scale somewhere between good and very good mental health.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah that's roughly where I would be.
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Joe Getty
But liberals report an average score of 53 and conservatives 68 moderates not shockingly right in the middle at 58 anyway what do you mean moderate? Moderates they take advantage of that's a moderate for you. Always moderating anyway take advantage of the large sample size in this CES study let's see how this difference holds up against a wide array of demographic and political characteristics. Let's see gender. Men tend to be conservative men at a 69 giggity liberal men of 56 conservative women up there at 66 liberal women way down at 51 shocking average mental health score white that's that I.
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Jack Armstrong
I realize what you just said about all these things but man because I'm surrounded by this world you would really stand out as like you might be kicked out of the herd if you were to say you know I think I'm perfectly fine.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Whereas I live in a world of a hey, we're all here for you. Have a drink, you'll be fine. And most people are let's see black in his or I'm sorry white Black and Hispanic and Asian conservatives are virtually tied at 68, 68, 65, 65 liberal white, black, Hispanic and Asians is 52, 60, 51, 51 like a fairly consistent 14 point gap young people age Gen Z that's 97 or later it's 56 to 40 Gen Zers liberal gen zers are among the most miserable people in America. The older you get the higher the scores get on both ends of the scale and we could get into education that sort of thing.
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Jack Armstrong
Gen zers report the most.
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Joe Getty
It'S tough.
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Jack Armstrong
To break all this stuff down and I realize they tried to control for all these things but I can't imagine being a 20 year old in a lot of your blue cities and telling your parents and I think I'm fine. You wouldn't want to disappoint your parents like that by telling them you don't have anxiety or depression or any of those things. Yeah, your parents would be horrified.
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Joe Getty
I know several young people, some of whom I may be genetically related to who are seem to be very bright, very well adjusted, happy with their lives but have some of these modern emotional problems and it makes me really curious as we've discussed many times through the years. What environmental causes are going on? Is it the never ending barrage of inputs? That's my greatest suspicion.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
So yeah, we're never quiet, we're never alone, we're never bored.
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Jack Armstrong
You're right. In presenting this information, we're kind of, or I was kind of presenting it like this is all somewhat imagined. But we have talked a lot about. And I know I got, I got one kid who has for real, anxiety, depression, ocd, all that sort of stuff.
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Joe Getty
And it's been struggling with it his.
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Jack Armstrong
Whole life and on medication and I've seen a gazillion psychiatrists and doctors and blah, blah, blah. So yeah, there's something going on that is causing problems, right? Yes. So separating out that the real from the just culturally, you live in a town where everybody's supposed to have some of this stuff because life is so hard and the world is so bad.
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Joe Getty
If you're keeping track at home. Just for the record, Jack came to judge, Joe came to understand.
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Jack Armstrong
Damn right I came to judge and.
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Joe Getty
Then brag about it. So let's be fair, I bragged about it. Anyway, so this is as I, as I mentioned last segment, the most miserable bastards in America appear to be progressive bisexuals. If you are bisexual or other, and apparently there are some conservatives, they're at a 59, which ain't great, but if you're a progressive bisexual, you're at you self rate yourself at 35, which is I mean like by far the most miserable people in America. I heard one prominent lesbian writer, I read her. Right. Well, what do you want? These people want everything from the world, both sexes, you know, everything goes. How can the world not disappoint them? Hmm.
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Jack Armstrong
I feel like I know a lot of baristas that meet that description and they look unhappy. I don't know that that's our facial expression anyway.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. And their voice, their vocal fright voice. Interestingly, people who have high interest in news and politics on both sides of the aisle tend to be more happy with their mental health.
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Jack Armstrong
Really?
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Joe Getty
Yeah. I'm somewhat surprised by that because it's enough to make you insane. Trust me, I do it for a living.
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Jack Armstrong
Huh.
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Joe Getty
And it declines low. News and political interest significantly lower on both sides. Wow.
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Jack Armstrong
So they just take in the information about the world just kind of the way they hear it from people and, and get despondent over it.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. Having more income does seem to make you more positive about your mental health. That could be the other way. Correlation. Yeah. Or reverse.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. You're much more likely to make more Money if you're mentally okay.
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Joe Getty
No meaningful difference in mental health between Catholics, Protestants and adherents of other organized religions. The differences between liberals and conservatives persist there, but religious adherence does soften them somewhat.
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Jack Armstrong
I'm glad to see there's another big breakdown between Protestants and Catholics.
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Joe Getty
Married people and people in. Well, I know you wanted to start another holy war. You're a big fan of Joan of Arc. But married people and people in domestic partnerships are happier than those who are separated, widowed, divorced or have never been married.
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Jack Armstrong
That has been true for as long as we've been doing radio and reading these studies that married people tend to report being happier more than single people. Which is interesting given that so much of the single world looks at married people is like, I'm glad I'm not in that prison. When statistically that does not born out at all.
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Joe Getty
Oh, not at all. It's interesting they phrased it as happier when it's self reported mental health. Sure, those are synonyms, but I guess they're close.
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Jack Armstrong
I think they're pretty close.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. Those are the main takeaways. Why are young liberals so depressed? Matt Iglesias wrote about you'd be depressed too.
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Jack Armstrong
They don't know what the they're doing their weird hair color and a thing through their nose. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
A couple old white men. I can't stand it. And he points out. Jack, you'll be gratified by this that there may be a performative aspect to this.
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Jack Armstrong
Yes.
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Joe Getty
Liberals may express negative sentiment as a sign of solidarity with the movement.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
That thinks there is profound injustice in the world. How can I act happy with all this injustice? Everybody will judge me.
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Jack Armstrong
You think you could walk into your hipster coffee shop where you're a barista and there's like nine other employees and be a. Everything's fine. You know, life is what life is. I just. I roll with the punches. You think you can be that person? No. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Good days, bad days. What are you gonna do? Let's make some coffee.
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Jack Armstrong
Right?
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Joe Getty
Drummed out. Did you see what Trump did? Oh my God. It is so clearly a fascist dictatorship. Right. I've considered moving to Belgium.
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Jack Armstrong
I couldn't find a parking spot because of the patriarchy.
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Joe Getty
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. The Armstrong and Getty show.
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Joe Getty
The Armstrong and Getty show here's your freedom loving quote of the day from a gentleman who celebrated his 77th birthday yesterday and he should be a hero to young children, particularly black children all across America. That's Clarence Thomas. But he's been so denigrated and bad mouthed by the liberal media. He's not. But he was talking. He gave a speech not too long ago about the importance of standing up for truth, even if you're the only one doing so. And here's the quote. You can be in the middle of a hurricane or you can be on a calm day. North is still north. You could be in a thunderstorm. North is still north. People can yell at you. North is still north. It doesn't change fundamental things. And in this business, right is still right even if you stand by yourself.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, different. Different version of 2 +2 equals 4 no matter what anybody else says, right?
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Joe Getty
Exactly. Well said Clarence. And happy birthday, sir. Mailbag Got a couple more later in the week from Clarence Thomas. Drop us a note mailbag@armstrong getty.com Dirk the German rights it was a mostly peaceful bombing. See, Iran is a nation of over 600,000 square miles. The US bombed three small nuclear sites to protest Iran's Nuclear ambitions. It was clearly a mostly peaceful protest.
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Jack Armstrong
That's fantastic.
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Joe Getty
Well done, Dirk.
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Jack Armstrong
How come nobody's commenting on the rest of Iran? The vast 99% of Iran that was untouched by battle?
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Joe Getty
Iran's a very big country. It was just downtown Nukeville that had the problems. Well played, Dirk. Don writes, if President Trump wants Iranian women's supportive regime change, he could she should offer swapping their burkas and other oppressive head coverings for red make around. Great again. Ball caps. Wow. Just ship cases of those over to Iran. Yeah, my hair's covered with this troovy red hat I just got. Take that, Secret police. Of course, they probably get the hell beat out of them for that.
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Jack Armstrong
And then you'd be tortured and then executed.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, let's see why I am not stressed out by Steve and Everett Washington. Seems to me that two very important metrics should be considered whether or not we're at peace with the regional conflicts in the Middle East. One, did oil prices increase or decrease? It decreased significantly more than 10 bucks a barrel. Two, did the Dow Jones increase or don't look at the Dow, look at the s and P500. Did the S and P increase or decrease? It increased the better part of 1%. I'm not one to engage in industrial espionage, but I trust the fact that Wall street has those resources. If the markets seem to think things have calmed down, I'm inclined to agree with them.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, up again today on the ceasefire talks, although it might have more to do with the Fed chair and what he said about interest rates.
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Joe Getty
I was just reading about how uncertainty affects hiring and investment in business, and I find myself wondering whether at some point we become just more comfortable with a higher level of volatility. Uncertainty as a culture, as an economy.
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Jack Armstrong
We better get used to it or we're going to go crazy.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Paolo with an interesting topic. It looks like Iran has at least a fly in the ointment of its nuclear ambitions. It's probably only a bump in the road for them. But if. But it's not just Iran and nukes we have to worry about. The development of technology and learning generally is snowballing, and eventually just about everybody will have the capacity to do great harm. May take a while, I hope. Very long while, but it's inevitable. How can we avoid it except by our destruction or some sort of great reset that sets us back centuries? We'll have to hope that we get a lot wiser before our knowledge progresses to the point where the power to destroy ourselves is ubiquitous and available. To just about everyone. JT and Livermore makes the point that none of the former presidents have come out and said nice job Donald J. Getting, you know, taking the nuclear capabilities away from Iraq.
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Jack Armstrong
That. That's a decent point considering I saw a montage of Clinton, Obama, Biden, all saying Iran will never get a nuclear.
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Joe Getty
Weapon and doing very little about it.
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Jack Armstrong
Doing very little about it. In some cases helping them along.
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Joe Getty
Let's see Tim, who hates us, write yay ww3 a disgusting escalation guaranteed to give J and J little chubbies in their Dockers. Wow, that's unnecessarily graphic. And I'm not wearing Docker sir as they bloviate with that special studio courage they're known for.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, okay. Your type. So we have less of a chance of World War III if Iran has a nuclear weapon. Explain that to me.
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Joe Getty
Well, and the false arguments and bad faith arguments and a very short email. You know what? I respect your ability to cram them. So many bad faith arguments into the.
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Jack Armstrong
Sentence and a half a chubby in my Dockers.
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Joe Getty
Let's see. Byron writes. And there have been variations on this attempted humor. Trump's newest golf project is coming together. He just established the first three holes of his new 18 hole golf course.
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Jack Armstrong
There you go.
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Joe Getty
That would be the nuclear facility as a verand Jack Holes in the ground I was tracking instead of yes, okay.
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Jack Armstrong
It wasn't that I didn't laugh because I didn't understand it. I understood.
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Joe Getty
I see Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
This is an iHeart podcast.