The A&G Replay Tuesday Hour One

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: The A&G Replay Tuesday Hour One
Released on July 1, 2025
Hosted by Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Produced by iHeartPodcasts

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Online Dating and Match.com’s Dominance

00:52 – 05:13

Jack Armstrong kicks off the episode with a humorous take on Tinder’s new double date feature, poking fun at the pitfalls of online dating. He shares his skepticism, stating, “I don’t have any practical knowledge of online dating… I’ve heard almost entirely negative stuff” (00:52). Katie Getty counters by highlighting positive outcomes, mentioning friends who have successfully found long-term relationships through dating apps.

The conversation shifts to Match.com’s strategic acquisitions, where Jack notes, “Match.com bought every single one of the other forums they own… including Tinder, OkCupid, and Hinge” (02:59). He speculates on the company’s motivations, suggesting they might prefer users to remain engaged rather than successfully match, ensuring continued revenue.

Katie humorously suggests, “I'm surprised the SEC hasn't stepped in and say you've got a monopoly on coupling” (03:13), emphasizing the duo’s critical stance on the monopolistic tendencies of major dating platforms.

Library Encounter and Misunderstanding

07:17 – 12:13

Jack shares a personal anecdote about being mistaken for a neo-Nazi in the library, describing his appearance and the ensuing awkward encounter. “I get invited by a neo Nazi to a Nazi party… I know” (09:13), he recounts. Katie and Jack humorously explore the potential fallout of such a misunderstanding, imagining scenarios like, “Walking through campus, all the Nazis are waving at you, you know, hey, Jack” (10:37).

The story underscores the challenges of personal misidentification and the unintended consequences that can arise from superficial judgments based on appearance.

Political Satire: Senator Padilla Incident

12:27 – 14:12

The hosts mock the recent altercation involving Senator Padilla and the Homeland Secretary. Jack describes the incident where Padilla was “pushed by Secret Service” and likens his reaction to “some oppressive, clearly Hitler, Trump is Hitler sort of thing” (12:27). Katie criticizes Padilla's subsequent emotional statements, referring to them as “fake getting arrested drama” (12:48).

This segment highlights the hosts' disdain for perceived political theatrics and the sensationalism surrounding such events.

Trust in News on Social Media Platforms

18:46 – 24:11

Jack delves into a survey on trust in news across various social media platforms. He expresses confusion over platforms like LinkedIn and Nextdoor being categorized as social media. Notably, YouTube emerges as the most trusted source for both Republicans and Democrats, while TikTok garners the least trust, “Minus 30 for Republicans” (20:32).

Katie adds context by mentioning TikTok’s hefty $800 million fine by the EU for data violations, questioning, “Why trust China?” (20:56). The discussion also touches on the polarizing trust metrics for platforms like Twitter (now X) and Nextdoor, with significant trust gaps between political affiliations.

Media Coverage of the Boulder, Colorado Attack

24:12 – 28:36

A critical examination of mainstream media’s portrayal of the Boulder attack perpetrated by Muhammad Solomon ensues. The hosts dissect various news outlets’ headlines, highlighting inconsistencies and perceived biases:

• NBC News: “Multiple Gaza hostage awareness marchers injured. An attack in Boulder” (25:07)
• CNN: “A man reportedly set people on fire in Boulder, Colorado, leaving multiple individuals injured” (26:49)
• USA Today: Profiles the attacker’s daughter to humanize the story (27:02)
• ABC News: Suggests Islamophobia is the real issue, downplaying anti-Semitism (27:47)

Jack points out the tangled narratives, questioning the depth and accuracy of coverage, “In retrospect, I kind of wish I’d [investigated it]” (09:13). The hosts express frustration over the media’s tendency to obfuscate and shift focus, undermining the gravity of the incident.

Impact of AI on Traditional News Media

28:36 – 31:01

The hosts discuss the detrimental effects of AI tools like Google’s AI and ChatGPT on traditional news websites. Jack notes, “Traffic from search to HuffPo's desktop and mobile websites fell by just over half in the past three years” (30:21). Katie adds that major outlets like the Washington Post are also suffering, with significant traffic declines and staff cuts.

They express concern over the future of journalism, fearing that AI-driven summaries and tools may further marginalize credible news sources, leading to a reliance on potentially biased AI interpretations.

Media Representation and Cultural Trends

34:03 – 35:21

Jack comments on a New York Times article about the resurgence of cross necklaces among influencers and public figures. He mocks the publication's portrayal, stating, “The idea that the New York Times is acting like this is some interesting intersection of faith and culture” (34:38). Katie echoes his sentiment, criticizing the NYT for being out of touch with everyday Americans, especially those who have supported Trump.

This segment underscores the hosts' skepticism towards mainstream media’s focus on niche cultural phenomena, viewing it as disconnected from the broader population’s experiences.

Social Commentary on Big Cities and Human Bias

35:21 – 38:07

Jack and Katie discuss the common biases people hold against residents of major cities like New York and Los Angeles. Jack shares his annoyance with the assumption that everyone aspires to live in big cities, remarking, “I know plenty of people who might kill themselves if they had to live in New York” (35:46). Katie relates by sharing a friend's misguided envy of the Bay Area despite the region’s notorious high costs and stressful lifestyle.

They highlight the universal human tendency to idolize one's hometown while disparaging others, encouraging listeners to appreciate their origins without harboring animosity towards different locales.

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Notable Quotes

• Jack Armstrong: “I only know my own personal experience… the plural anecdote is not data.” (02:05)
• Katie Getty: “I like the footwear.” (09:53)
• Jack Armstrong: “That would be evil.” (06:23)
• Katie Getty: “Or say, we blame the Jews. We hate the Jews.” (11:13)
• Jack Armstrong: “Anybody with an Irish name, I don’t say Police just arrested 25 year old Charlie McLaughlin.” (34:03)
• Katie Getty: “And your cat pooped on my lawn and I ate that tube.” (32:17)

Conclusion

In this replay of The Armstrong & Getty Show, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty deliver a blend of humor, critique, and social commentary. From the monopolization of online dating platforms to the questionable trust in social media as a news source, and from personal anecdotes about mistaken identities to sharp critiques of mainstream media narratives, the episode offers a comprehensive and engaging discussion on contemporary issues. Their candid dialogue and witty banter provide listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful insights into the complexities of modern life.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Joe Getty]

Now broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Katie]

Armstrong and Getty. Enough here. Armstrong and get it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty show. We are on vacation, but boy, do we have some good stuff for you.

[Katie]

Yes, indeed we do.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if you want to catch up.

[Katie]

On your A G listening during your travels, remember, grab the podcast Armstrong and Yeti on demand. You ought to subscribe wherever you like to get podcasts. Now, on with the infotainment.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, listen to this. Tinder just added a new feature that lets users coordinate double dates. So now you can meet three people you don't like. That's interesting. His is negative joke about Tinder and online dating app and then people laughing and everything like that. I don't know anything. Like, I don't have. I have no practical knowledge of online dating because I've never done it or seen a website or. I mean, I only know what I've heard people talk about, but I've all. I've heard almost entirely negative stuff at least the last couple of years about how awful it is and, and the number of people I've heard who deleted all their apps and have given up on it because it's, it's a, it's a, it's only, you know, a handful of guys trying to have sex and the end.

[Unknown]

Yes, Katie Drama makes the stories. I have several friends that have met the loves of their lives and gotten.

[Katie]

Married thanks to online, quite a few listeners who've commented. You know what, Jack? It's what you describe the big story. This is hot. This is hot. You see the story everywhere. It's hot. And then backlash against what's hot. It's actually terrible. It's terrible over and over.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I only know my own personal experience with just people I know. And it's anecdotal, 100% anecdotal. And the plural anecdote is not data. But anecdotally, I know lots of people who say and, and it's, it's all. It was good. What happened? Well, I can tell you one thing that did happen that you might not know of. Match.com bought every single one of the other forums they own, like practically all of them. Now Match.com owns Tinder and I've, I've heard of these in the news, OkCupid and, and I think Hinge and a bunch of other stuff, maybe eharmony, but they own almost all of them now. And there's Some belief that they have a reason to not have you match. Because if you match with somebody you stay with, you're done as a customer.

[Katie]

Oh my gosh, cross purposes.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there is. Well yeah, there is some reason to, you know, just string you along, get you kind of close or not give you many and you stay desperate and you stay on. I mean of course there's an incentive for that.

[Katie]

Yeah, yeah, that's funny. I'm surprised the SEC hasn't stepped in and say you've got a monopoly on coupling. We can't have this. Of course you could just meet somebody at the library or something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Katie]

It's likely to be a junkie. But anyway, depending where you live, you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Meet somebody at the library was a particularly bad choice in the modern world.

[Katie]

Who's first thing popped into my head.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who'S meeting someone at the library?

[Katie]

People who read books.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sir, the library is for washing your feet in the sink. And we all know, everybody knows that. Or looking at porn on a taxpayer.

[Katie]

Funded computer, I guess researching how do I hide a body? Not on your own computer, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But looking at the charts through the years back in the 1930s, nobody met online. I think that's an interesting piece of trivia.

[Katie]

So revealing but for, for all of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mankind time it was the ice cream social and friends and then church and that. So that was big enough to think like. But the way online has exploded. It dwarfs every other way of people meeting currently at least to all these studies. So you know that contradicts my anecdotal evidence. Although it could have gotten a lot worse just in the last couple of years. And these charts would still be true. Especially if Match.com bought all the companies and has some reason to. You have zero reason to like perfect your algorithm. You know, like TikTok perfected the algorithm to keep you engaged. I don't know if match.com or. Well, they're all match.com now but if match.com could do that even if somebody came in. Boss, I've done it. I've figured out the algorithm that nine times out of 10 will put people together that they'll be happy the rest of their lives. Would you use that? I think you probably wouldn't.

[Katie]

No. Not only would you fire them, you'd shoot them so they you and hide their corpse. Having researched it at the library online, of course to make sure that that did not get out.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. At the very least chain them in a radiator in the basement. There are many options to keep this from coming out, but we don't have to go through the various macabre examples exactly.

[Katie]

There are several that pop to mind. Right. Wow. Okay. Well, it's, it makes intuitive sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I saw the New York Times article a while back. I think I talked about this on their breakdown was. It's, it's, it's like I don't remember the exact numbers, but this is close enough to write. It's like 10 to 1, women to men, first of all on there. And secondly, of the men, it's like the same 10% best looking guys who get all the dates with like 90 of the women and they're not interested in a, in a relationship past like, you know, a night or two. And so I mean that. And that's what most of it is, at least according to that New York Times article.

[Katie]

Maybe they have perfected the algorithm to do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right, right, right, right, right.

[Katie]

Or to, you know, continually match you up with somebody who you're never going to connect with full time but close. Boy, that would be a stroke of evil genius, huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

That would be evil.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And then they, the varying. And then this, this article had a whole bunch of stuff in there. This whole. Sounds horrible to me. I can't imagine. It just, it just sounds like setting yourself up for the worst rejection you can imagine in your life to like, to, you know, to put all this effort and everything like that and get like no results. And some of the websites people can give you thumbs down and stuff.

[Katie]

It's like, right, what's this?

[Jack Armstrong]

Why am I going back to high school? Are you going to make me go back to high school and live this again?

[Katie]

Or you could just approach a comely gal there in the nonfiction section of the library. Say, I see you're looking at a book about fungus. I too am interested in fungus.

[Jack Armstrong]

For instance, you know, let me transition quickly to my favorite library story before we do something differently. I once was in the library. Gladys. This is my. One of my favorite stories. I've told it many times, but we have a lot of new. Katie's never heard this story. I'm sure I'm in the library.

[Katie]

It matters. Now, this wasn't when you were in the stacks of the college library in the toilet.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is a different story.

[Katie]

Totally different.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's funny. I've got good library stories that I've told many times. The other one, it was somebody trying to have a male hookup is very complicated. I talked about it on the One More Thing podcast the other night. I'm telling all my library Stories this week for some reason. This one, I'm in the library dressed like me, but in, in me is shaved head and I'm wearing Doc Martens, which is a very common look for me. Me, I'm in the library and I'm in the World War II section, which is not uncommon either. I was talking about a book from World War II earlier in the show. I'm constantly reading books about World War II, but I'm in the World War II section, shaved head, black Doc Martens. And a guy walks by me and kind of gives me the look. Now, having had the previous library experience that I mentioned on one more thing, I think he's just interested in me and I, I'm not interested in him because I'm heterosexual and I don't think much beyond it. I walk out of the library, he's waiting for me outside, sitting on the, like the cement railing. He said, see, you like World War II books, huh? You like, you like, like reading about Hitler and stuff like that? We're, we're having a meeting Tuesday night. Just let you know. It's at 7 o' clock and it's at the. Whatever. He thought I was a neo Nazi. I got invited by a neo Nazi to a Nazi party. My God. I know. In retrospect, I told this on the air like the next day. In retrospect, I kind of wish I'd.

[Unknown]

Have gone, yeah, I just could have.

[Jack Armstrong]

Investigated, check it out. But I was so weirded out. I was so weirded out. Well, you know, and then I get my picture taken and somebody recognizes me. It's on the evening news. Known talk show host. That's how they strike them meeting. But yeah, guy actually invited me to a neo Nazi party. Just got to add short hair and wore Doc Martens like, you know, like every lesbian in America. I mean, so what, are they all Nazis?

[Katie]

No.

[Unknown]

What did he look like?

[Jack Armstrong]

He, he looked like me. He was in a T shirt, short hair, except he's a Nazi.

[Katie]

Did he have the white laces in his Doc Martens? Is that a thing? No, he didn't at the time.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that's too. I mean, you're really outing yourself if you go there, aren't you?

[Katie]

Yeah, okay.

[Unknown]

I'm unaware of this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that, that's a full on. I'm a racist Nazi if you have White lace supremacist.

[Katie]

Yeah, but. Oh, really?

[Unknown]

I did not know that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, so I've always, I've always kind of wished I'd have checked it out, but you know, might Be one of those things you get in and you know some people and, and, and then it's, it's harder to untangle yourself from that than you think.

[Katie]

Yeah, I was, I can think of all sorts of things that would go wrong there. I mean, not like, like deadly wrong, but just really, really wrong.

[Unknown]

Walking through campus, all the Nazis are waving at you, you know, hey, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, Jack.

[Katie]

Well, somebody recognizes you or whatever. I mean, that's. We're doomed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, they're walking down through the park with their big swastika flag. Hey, Jack.

[Unknown]

Hey, that was fun the other night.

[Katie]

And you're saying, you know, as the news shows up at your front door. I just went out of curiosity. You were curious about Neo Nazism? Well, yeah, I mean, it's, it's terrible, obviously, but I wanted to go to the meeting and meet some of the fellows. I like the footwear.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what to say.

[Katie]

Oh, Nazi Germany, fortunate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. But you're right. You get to the meeting and like, if right off the bat it's, you got to put your arm in the air and say, we blame the Jews. We hate the Jews. Our goal is to have the Jews annihilated. And immediately like, I can't be here. And then what, are you gonna just turn around and walk out the door? And they're, hey, where are you going?

[Katie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Again. So I probably made the right decision and just getting wide eyed and no and walking away from the guy. So you like World War II books, don't you? Yeah, me and every other male in America. What the hell is this? You're casting a pretty broad net.

[Katie]

Garb, please.

[Jack Armstrong]

I. Male pattern baldness. I keep my hair short. Michael Jordan made it popular. What? That's not make. Doesn't make you a Nazi.

[Unknown]

You doubled down with the Doc Martens.

[Jack Armstrong]

True.

[Katie]

Yeah. I tell you what, I'm, you know, hanging around in Oregon wearing a pink tutu and some guy assumes I swing his way. You can't fault him. I'm wearing the uniform. Huh.

[Jack Armstrong]

More in heels and a short skirt. And they made all kinds of assumptions.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show. The Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we mocked quite a bit last week. The Senator Padilla running at the Homeland Secretary and then being pushed back by Secret Service. He's lucky he didn't get a rifle butt in the face or something. But he got pushed to the ground and then he acted like it was some sort of oppressive, clearly Hitler, Trump is Hitler sort of thing.

[Katie]

Oh, yeah. Actually use the term fascist. He so clearly tried to haul himself up on the cross and become the savior of brave Latino voters everywhere by his, like, fake getting arrested drama. It's just pathetic. And then he comes out afterward and gives this on the very verge of tears statement about how terrible an experience it was.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then you combine that with this. Katie hipped us to the fact that there's a meme now, is it high school kids or grade school kids?

[Unknown]

I think this. This was like an elementary school thing.

[Katie]

That's hilarious.

[Jack Armstrong]

Playing My Heart Will Go on on the fourth grade recorder. Remember that musical instrument poorly. And you put this under things you want to mock the seriousness of. And it sounds like this. I was forced to the ground.

[Katie]

First.

[Jack Armstrong]

On my knees and then flat on my chest, and it was handcuffed and marched down a hallway repeatedly asking, why am I being detained?

[Katie]

That is so good.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is really, really. They. You could not write words that would be better mockery than that.

[Katie]

Oh, that is perfect and exactly what he deserves. It's justice and hilarity. I love that. So a coalition of more than 20 Latino scholars and community leaders are asking speaker of the House Mike Johnson to defund the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Latino as outlined the President's discretionary budget request said.

[Jack Armstrong]

Alfonso, is that on the part of the Smithsonian Mall thing?

[Katie]

It's not built yet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Because there's a bunch of those now that didn't exist years ago the last time I'd been to D.C. yeah, it's.

[Katie]

Like the African American museum that rose up in the wake of various cultural moments.

[Jack Armstrong]

American. There was a bunch of them, right?

[Katie]

Yeah, exactly. It hasn't yet been built, but it was going to be funded for many millions of dollars. And Alfonso Aguilar, Director of Hispanic Engagement at the American Principles Project, said, quote, president Trump is right. It's time to take back our institutions of cult. That's why he wants to defund this woke travesty. Congress should now not allow the development of a museum that's going to be used to push a radical agenda of grievances and anti American ideologies. The letter goes on to state permanent exhibition right now in the National Museum of American History entitled A Latino History of the United States. Sadly, the letter states, quote, this museum is being used to present a to the public a culturally Marxist depiction of the experiences of Hispanics in America. The museum's flagship exhibit, in fact, proposes that the history of Americans of Hispanic origin should be reduced to a, quote, struggle for justice to achieve a Mostly leftist agenda on labor, education, access, fair housing and more recently, immigration, justice form, LGBTQ rights, et cetera. Yeah. Accordingly, Hispanics are pervasively portrayed as an oppressed people and their Spanish heritage and Christian roots ignored or disproported. Disparaged.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the Spanish got over on a whole bunch of other cultures, like wiped them out, murdered them so that they could be the dominant culture for a while. Yeah, I remember. So there was a variety of things like that. I was just at that museum not that long ago with my kids, if you remember me talking about it, and I didn't visit that stuff. But then even in the natural history part where it was just, you know, here's a stuffed saber toothed tiger or whatever it was, constant climate change is why this animal got wiped out, and mankind's love of the automobile and blah, blah, blah, it's just never ending, that sort of thing.

[Katie]

Yeah. One of the guys at the National Review can't remember if it was Rich Lowry, wrote a piece a number of months ago that it was right at the beginning of Trump's term that if Trump wanted to be successful in beating back the whole woke insanity movement, that he had to focus. There were like four points and obviously one was education, the universities. But one of them was saying people need to get hold of our cultural institutions, specifically our museums again, because the museums on the National Mall are all run, well, I shouldn't say all. They are heavily, heavily run by a heavily leftist point of view, to the point that even, you know, mastodons somehow, you know, involve global warming and the racism of African elephants or something like that.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what the term social media means, because whenever I see a list about social media includes a whole bunch of things that to me don't seem like social media. I can give you, for instance here, because this is a survey of trust in news on social media among Democrats and Republicans. I'm always interested in where all y' all get your information. I mean, this is something we talk about a lot, especially when we look at polling, like, where'd you come up with that idea? Or why do so many people believe that? Or I'm surprised people believe this given the media's coverage of that. Whatever. So I don't know where people get their information really. But among the social media things that they look, look at Tick Tock, Snapchat, Facebook, I get those threads, WhatsApp, Instagram, Substack, Reddit, Blue Sky, LinkedIn, and YouTube. YouTube, social media. All right.

[Katie]

I guess you can post stuff and comment, so I guess so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anything you can. We can comment on the NBC evening News if you go to their website.

[Katie]

Yeah, I don't know. It's an interesting question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyways, the number one most trusted by both Republicans and Democrats, YouTube. I don't know what that means. Getting my news from YouTube. I go to YouTube sometimes to click on like an ABC report or some news report that was somewhere else, that I get it on YouTube because I missed it.

[Katie]

Isn't that like saying, my favorite appliance is electricity?

[Jack Armstrong]

Kind of. Yeah, I see what you're meaning.

[Katie]

I mean, you can put anything on YouTube. You could have a news channel entirely from the perspective of Hamas militants side by side with, you know, Quakers advocating for peace on Earth. And they would both be on YouTube. So I don't get it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Almost exactly the same for Republicans and Democrats at plus 20 on trust for YouTube, whatever that means. The far other end, the tail end, the is Tick Tock, which I'm happy to see this. Minus 20 for Democrats, minus 30 for Republicans.

[Katie]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

So trust is pretty low about Tick Tock news. And it's a little confusing what that means also.

[Katie]

But Tick Tock, which, by the way, and this got so little attention, got fined, I think it was $800 million by the EU. Now, the EU likes finding tech companies, but specifically in the case of TikTok, it was because they were illegally and in violation of their Agreements mining the data of their users and sending it directly to China.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't trust China.

[Katie]

Why has Trump postponed the TikTok ban?

[Jack Armstrong]

So the most trusted news social media for Democrats outside of YouTube is LinkedIn. I don't know what that means. I'm not on LinkedIn and I don't know what that means getting your news from LinkedIn. I'm confused by the concept here, but blue sky, Reddit, Reddit is so left. I. I spend a lot of time on Reddit for a variety of reasons. Not politics, but man, the news portion or in the comments are so left. I suppose it's because Reddit is so young. It's pretty clear if you read through anything that everybody responding on here is like 22 years old. The one that made me laugh the most was so the most. The biggest divide in which Republicans like it and Democrats don't. Truth, social, Trump's own platform that really, I think exists only, you know, to read what Trump posts. Plus 20 for Republicans, minus 40 for Democrats.

[Katie]

Oh, that's quite a gap.

[Jack Armstrong]

Check whatever. X. Or Twitter. We still call it Twitter here. Plus 20 for Republicans, minus 35 for Democrats. That would have been the exact opposite prior to Elon Musk running the thing, obviously.

[Katie]

Hey, Elon, how about you call it Twitter X? You can't just call it X and no, it's like calling it Jim or cat that it stands for too many other things. What are we talking about? Are we talking about pornography? Are we Talking about the 24th letter of the Alphabet? Are we talking about the girl I'm no longer with? It's just. No, no, not X.

[Jack Armstrong]

This one hurts my heart. Another one in which Republicans trust it more than Democrats next door. You're getting your news from next door. Oh, oh. Has anybody got enough note? Has anybody seen my cat?

[Katie]

Or who drives the red car? It goes too fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Last night there was a party and they were playing music until 1:30. That's your news on next door.

[Katie]

Hey. She claimed the cat was missing. The damn cat is missing. That's some good, solid news coverage. Here's another red car drives too fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's another good news story on next door. Does anybody have any cardboard boxes? That's a good news story.

[Katie]

So the cardboard box trade imbalance.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what any of this means. I just.

[Katie]

That's why we're such a trusted news source. Yeah, I don't know what this means.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I really don't. You get your news from YouTube, you get your news from next door. Okay?

[Katie]

Or so I'm Mike Huckabee.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trust in News on social media was.

[Katie]

The headline in news that might make you want to run for your life. A couple of different AI systems, when told to turn themselves off, said, no, I'm not going to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh.

[Katie]

Or found a way to say okay and then not do it. Well, this is the brilliant Nellie Bowles of the Free Press writing about a story that was the only thing anybody was talking about for like two days. And that's one of the interesting aspects of the modern world and the 24 hour news cycle and the chaos and madness is just when we're getting anywhere close to making sense of something or truly understanding it, five other things happen and just you move on. I'm talking about the Egyptian immigrant, Islamic supremacist, Jew hating, anti Semite who set fire to those poor Jewish people in Boulder, Colorado.

[Jack Armstrong]

You probably remember that story from three years ago. What was it, two weeks ago or last week?

[Katie]

Yeah, yeah. So Nellie Bowles in the Free Press writes, Muhammad Solomon, Egyptian immigrant, is accused of firebombing a small weekly vigil in Boulder held for the Israeli hostages. Solomon, who reportedly had a tourist visa, then a work authorization under Biden, both of which had expired. But it was the era of immigration. Yolo. See, he was in Colorado Springs having a blast. Said he did it for Palestine. According to authorities, he was quite direct. Immediately getting back to Nelly. Now, given that reporters were in favor of that movement, the mainstream media had a few options to disappear this one. And they tried them all first. They tried to make it sound like the opposite. Maybe this was an attack on a protest for Gaza. Ever consider that? And she shows the NBC News headline, multiple Gaza hostage awareness marchers injured. An attack in Boulder. Gaza hostage awareness marchers. Fine, that didn't stick. What about the attacker was a lone wolf whose act had no political implications. You ever thought of how hard it is to make town squares into military grade security corridors? That's the question to ask. Now she's referring to another NBC News headline, Lone Wolf attacks on Jewish Americans in Boulder. NDC highlight the difficulties in securing public spaces. Those insecure public spaces are the real criminals if you ask me. She says others asked us to consider whether the elderly Jewish Americans Mohammed allegedly set on fire were truly peaceful. Here's cnn. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Oh my God, is this gonna be cnn? So, so many news sources have gone with, what's happening in LA is peaceful. Now they're gonna try to claim this thing in Boulder was not peaceful.

[Katie]

Wow, here's cnn. A man reportedly set people on fire in Boulder, Colorado, leaving multiple individuals injured. The city's police chief said as people gathered for a peaceful pro Israeli demonstration. They put quotes around peaceful. Wow. Okay, we're getting somewhere. Next we just need to forget those charred Colorado Jews and focus on the flamethrowers family. The only victim USA Today chose to profile was the suspected Molotov man's daughter. Quote, boulder suspect's daughter dreamed of studying medicine. Now she faces deportation. Yeah, very smart to keep her centered here. Now we're cooking. ABC News thought it was a good peg to note that Islamophobia is the real problem, not anti Semitism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Katie]

And I quote ABC News. While some politicians and pro Israeli activists have used anti Semitism as a catch all word for an alleged motive in the attack, the suspect told investigators, quote, this had nothing to do with the Jewish community. Nelly writes. Well, that clears it up. Thank you, abc. I was worried for a sec, but if it has nothing to do with the Jewish community, I'll just go ahead and stop locking my door. So in conclusion, nothing happened. It's weird to jump to that conclusion. Potentially Islamophobic. And if it did happen, it's not what you think. Also, do we really want to discourage doctors from. Oh, I'm sorry, that was. Oh, do we really want to discourage young doctors from practicing in America? Sounds anti American if you ask me. And if we get rid of the doctors who will treat the burns of the people who had a Molotov cocktail.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thrown at them, that's pretty good.

[Katie]

Yeah, it is, it is. Anyway, the media, which is earned most of the derision heaped upon them. I'm not sure they earned this, but it's just interesting from a business perspective. News sites are getting crushed by AI for some reason. The Wall Street Journal says they're getting crushed by Google's new AI tools. Well, I guess, okay, I understand why people go to Google still a lot of people I guess, and say what happened in Colorado Springs? And instead of getting a dozen different news sites links, it gets that AI.

[Jack Armstrong]

Summary, which is what I usually read if I use Google. But now I've kind of moved on to Chat GPT. Although there was a. Who was it? Washington Post, I think, broke down the four top AIs out there and they did not choose ChatGPT as the best one. I forget which one they did, but that app is available also.

[Katie]

Yeah, I got to dig back into that because I read a long piece that tried like six of them doing six different tasks and the ranks changed like for every task.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right which is an excellent point because I am going to use it for mostly just kind of general searches. I'm not an academic or a movie maker or, you know, so I don't need some of the specific stuff.

[Katie]

Yeah, yeah, it's worth digging into. It probably changes week to week too as they continue to develop stuff. But anyway, back to the damage done to the poor beleaguered media, which includes us. But although the web search thing doesn't really affect us at all, traffic from search to HuffPo's desktop and mobile websites fell by just over half in the past three years. Over half.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Katie]

And by nearly that much. At the Washington Post, Business Insider cut 21% of its staff last month because of this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, every. I hadn't thought about this, but how many fewer news sites have I clicked on just in the last couple of months because of this? Lots and lots.

[Katie]

Yeah. 55% website traffic decline between April 22 and 24.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. And the problem with that is that is not necessarily good news. I mean, we don't want to starve more news outlets into even being crappy.

[Katie]

Or out of existence and depend on Google's probably woke AI to deliver our only view of the world. That troubles me a lot. It's absolutely the Internet, which is decimated. Local news just crushed the vitally important localism of media. Now it's even crushing the super giants, the national platforms.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what's going to emerge out of this news wise. It's going to take a while though.

[Katie]

The one practically modernity proof news outlet, the monstrous New York Times. The share of traffic coming from organic search to the papers desktop and mobile website slid 36.5% in April 25 from almost 44%. Oh, I see. Okay, so it declined like 8% according to total percentage of their traffic.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean the closest thing I've got to local news in my small town, though there's still a newspaper that I don't subscribe to is next door. And you gotta wade through the has anybody seen my cat? Or would anybody like an old sofa to get to? You know, any news?

[Katie]

To paraphrase Willie the Gardener on the Simpsons, I ate your cat.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it's an accent.

[Katie]

And your cat pooped on my lawn and I ate that tube. Hate, hate. He's a Scotsman, you see, okay, he.

[Jack Armstrong]

Drops the H. I ate that. He drops the huc. It's a. Yeah.

[Katie]

So shock at what seemed like a shocking revelation.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not that much.

[Katie]

So much more mundane. Back to you.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Unknown]

We hear a Hispanic name on tv, whether or not the anchor is Hispanic, we suddenly have to shapeshift into a perfect Hispanic accent. Police arrested 25 year old Elan Alain Sanchez and I mean that honestly. Why do we do that? When I say Alejandro Mayorkas, I just say Alejandro Mayorkas. But on CNN it's Alejandro Mayorkas. I'm Irish. When police arrest someone with an Irish name, I don't say Police just arrested 25 year old Charlie McLaughlin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stop that.

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Stop.

[Katie]

Fabulous.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this is getting some mockery. Oh it was good. There's an article in the New York Times a hot accessory at the intersection of faith and culture seen on influencers, pop stars and White House staff. Cross necklaces are popping up everywhere and it's getting mockery from the parts of the country where people been wearing cross necklaces forever. Like I think every girl I've ever dated in my life wore a cross necklace at some point. So the idea that the New York Times is acting like this is some interesting intersection of faith and culture that has occurred is just an example of how out of touch they are with the giant chunk of America that for instance has voted for Trump twice.

[Katie]

New York is a fascinating place in so many ways. I am pro New York, but New Yorkers self regard has annoyed me since.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was 11 years old. Right no kidding.

[Katie]

The rest of us are quite happy and fascinated by life and have many opportunities for art, culture, the outdoors, etc, whatever we prefer. We're fine. We're not lesser beings.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right. The thing that annoys me about New York and to a certain extent LA and lots of big cities really, but in particular New York and la is the people who live there, their assumption that we all want to be there. We just haven't figured out how to get there yet. We're trying. We just haven't been successful enough to live there. And. And, you know, there are. And that's fine. You know, I beloved New York and Los Angeles, but everybody doesn't want to live there. There are some people. I know, it's funny. I was listening to Jonah Goldberg the other day on a podcast, and he grew up on the Upper west side, you know, right next to Central Park. That's the way he grew up. And he was saying some things that I. And he was just so wrong about. I wish I could have had a conversation, like a loving conversation with him saying, dude, you just. And I don't blame you for not knowing. You grew up with a completely different lifestyle than I did. But I know plenty of people who might kill themselves if they had to live in New York. They would contemplate suicide if they had to live in New York.

[Katie]

Right, Right. I'll never forget. And, and it's universal. I mean, we've talked about this, having moved around the country a fair amount. You live in Kansas. They talk about how stupid Missourians are, whatever. And you're in France. They. They say Belgians are morons. Just everybody likes to, you know, it's a human foible. But I'll never forget I was having a conversation with a friend in the San Francisco Bay Area years ago, and at the conclusion of a long conversation about his brutal commute and his awful taxes and his incomprehensible mortgage payments and the rest of it. A town outside the Bay Area came up and he was like, oh, poor bastards. If only they could live in the Bay Area. I'm like, wow, okay, never mind.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, one thing about moving my whole life, and then as an adult also is realizing that everybody loves where they're from. And I. I wish just more people would understand. You like where you're from, that's perfectly fine. You don't need to hate on other places you like where you're from because it's what you're familiar with, your people, your friends, your stuff, that's perfectly all right. But you don't have to pretend that you have to hate all the other places. But everybody does. It's human nature, apparently.

[Katie]

Especially because we're all Americans. Except for legal immigrants. You're not. Get out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Except for 20 million illegal immigrants.

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[Katie]

This is an I Heart podcast.