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Jack Armstrong
And now he's Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show. We are on vacation, but boy do we have some good stuff for you.
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Jack Armstrong
Yes indeed we do. And if you want to catch up on your ang listening during your travels, remember, grab the podcast Armstrong and Yeti on demand. You ought to subscribe wherever you like to get podcasts. Now on with the infotainment. We are going to There are all sorts of interesting things happening during the transition, many of which are not getting much attention in the dominant media that we're going to touch on real quickly. But why not this topic? Just briefly, this is from frequent correspondent JT in Livermore talking about how in 2016 Trump's victory spawned the resistance with the pink hats and he's not legitimate. He's a stooge of Putin, Russia, gate, blah blah blah. Trump's 24 victory spawned a new TDS based sickness in which the crybaby left cuts off their friendships and family relationships, seemingly as a form of virtue, signaling about how awful it is that the basket of deplorables, the bitter clingers and the garbage have voted Trump into office. Then he gets into the insanity in the lefty leadership and pundits and media. They pinned this election as an existential threat to the country. Then after they lose, those same people said that it was because our country was so misogynistic and racist, deplorable, bitter garbage. Then they validated their hateful rhetoric by telling distressed lefty voters that it was appropriate to cut off family and friends voting for Trump. Which was worse? The hateful rhetoric and lies against Trump and every Trump supporter or that post loss narrative that's appropriate to cut off all Republicans from your life?
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Joe Getty
It's so sad.
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Jack Armstrong
And you know, there's part of me that thinks, you know, if I had a friend or relative say that. I'd say, good, go, go. Fine, bye. But that, that would almost validate the idea of it's appropriate to end relationships over politics.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. And that's, you know, I don't know. That's easy to say if I don't think about a specific person, but, like, if I was gonna not talk to either one of my brothers ever again of how the election went, that'd be horrible, right?
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Jack Armstrong
Exactly. Yeah, It's. It's incredibly dysfunctional and like, childish and. And. Or adolescent. It's just what a state our politics are in. And then finally, or as it is in our politics is in or are. There's an S at the end. I'm going with R. And speaking of crazy, I want to squeeze this in. Did you see or did you hear that AOC has taken the pronouns out of her social media bios? All our social media accounts. Isn't that interesting?
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Joe Getty
Wow. Bill Maher had a thing about that on Friday night. Maybe we'll have to grab that on because he was comparing it to the. Oh, it's because they're sexist and racist and not because liberals have started using pronouns and claiming there's no such thing as a difference between a man and a woman. All these other different things that almost nobody in America agrees with.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And then this same person pointed out that when Seth Moulton said, hey, I got a couple little girls in sports, I don't want them run over by a boy playing sports. He was compared to a Nazi collaborator.
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Joe Getty
That's reasonable.
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Jack Armstrong
Just a monster. And one of his top staffers quit. So, you know, look, Trump is what Trump is. It's pretty well documented what Trump is at this point, but y'all at that, like one third of the farthest left in America. Y'all are nuts. And I think everybody's recognizing it more and more and saying it openly. Yeah, all that stuff you've been making us do, that's cuckoo nuts.
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Joe Getty
Transition wise, we trust Axios more or less, don't we? Isn't that Jonathan Swan's outfit?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, sure.
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Joe Getty
They got a headline today, massive blow up between Musk and Trump Advisor that I don't recognize the name over cabinet picks as each jockey for influence. The next Bob Woodward book or somebody's book is going to have about the whole Musk Trump thing and what's going on, because there's a fair amount of reporting about Musk being in, like, involved in everything. Every decision, every cabinet pick out, all the foreign leader calls and just what is going on there, exactly?
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Jack Armstrong
Well. And even if you're used to being in the highest reaches of presidential power, it would have to be at least surreal to sit there in a room telling Elon Musk, no, you're out of your mind. That's a dumb idea.
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Joe Getty
Or it's probably weird for Elon to, you know, if anybody's telling him that, to think, okay, who are you?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah. So a couple of stories about the transition and the way the transition affects the rest of the world. Smugglers are telling migrants again, when did immigrants become migrants? And ironically, we're going to talk about farmworkers. It used to be immigrants actually were migrants. They would migrate to the United States, they would work for six months or whatever, then migrate back to Mexico and back to their homes. Now, these people from Venezuela, for the one of the first times in history, they're not migrants at all. And now we're supposed to call them migrants. Shut up. Anyway, smugglers are telling illegal immigrants to rush to the US Before Trump takes power. The coyotes are anticipating US Border policy changes and are rushing as many people as they can to the border to make as much money as possible. It's more profitable than drugs now.
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Joe Getty
Well, that makes sense. I mean, things are going to change very quickly.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But the. The coyotes follow the news. They know what they're doing. Also transition news. Ah. The Energy Department has quadrupled their lending budget in a rush to approve green energy loans before Trump takes office. In other words, the Biden administration is going to hand out as much of your tax money as they possibly can before they're out the door to their cronies in the green energy world, knowing that they can count on their votes next time or for Congress or the Senate in two years or whatever. Department of Energy loan office quadrupled its available lending budget to over $240 billion last week as Biden officials rushed to approve a flurry of green energy loans. Even as it's becoming more and more clear that, for instance, the EV thing is just not gonna pan out. The numbers aren't there. The environmental impact isn't there. None of it's there. It's just handing out money to cronies. Uh, let's see, one more. Ah, this is important. The Customs and Border Patrol that Trump is gonna take hold of and Mike Homan is it and just completely whoop into shape. Well, Biden's active, too. The Biden Harris Customs and Border Patrol has rolled out new pronouns for its official web meetings as they have Zoom calls and the rest of it. And this is new. They want to make sure this is instituted in the CBP before they go. You can now put your pronoun up there in your official profile that's on the screen for your name.
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Joe Getty
That's great.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Isn't that just desperate and stupid and.
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Joe Getty
It'Ll be rolled back immediately.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And there's a sister story to that. The online guide that the Customs and Border Patrol. Let's see. What else could they be doing? Hmm. Nothing I could think of. The online guide, posted by. The federal government directs the good folks to UC Davis, only a few miles away from the radio ranch. Who's UC Davis? LGBTQIA recourse center lists 50 potential pronouns a person may choose to use.
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Joe Getty
50 cautions. 50 seems like a lot.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, no, no, no. You're exactly wrong. You. You monster, you. You garbage, you deplorable, you clinger. It cautions readers that the list is not exhaustive. It is only partial. And it explains, in case you're unfamiliar with this. What are pronouns? Well, they go first. The Strunk and white English usage thing. But pronouns are integral to who we are, and we share pronouns because we want to avoid assuming someone's pronouns based on factors like appearance. By sharing our own pronouns routinely, we encourage others to do the same. Blah, blah, blah. This is straight out of radical queer theory. Radical gender theory. Common pronouns include she, her, there's he, him, his, etc. But then they get into the actual how to use them and. And how you have to memorize them. For instance, he laughed. Ask him. That's his pen. That pen's his. Did he enjoy himself? Okay, I'm good so far.
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Joe Getty
Am I five years old or am I just moving here from Russia?
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Jack Armstrong
Well, it depends. Do you use co as your pronoun? Co laughed. Ask co. That's co's pen. That pens co's. Did co. Did co enjoy co self? Does Cole.
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Joe Getty
Does Cole have a penis or a vagina? That's what I want to know.
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Jack Armstrong
V. That's V's pen. Ask viz. That's ver pen.
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Joe Getty
And I would have to memorize. And I would have to memorize 50 plus of these.
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Jack Armstrong
Did V enjoy vers self? Yeah, you better get started.
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Joe Getty
Ver self. Okay.
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Jack Armstrong
And that's just like the first dozen. And remember, folks, you got like, 48 more to memorize. God, I would love to be. You better get to work.
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Joe Getty
I would love to be involved in the meetings where they come up with these and sit there and listen to people present New ideas and then how they're going to be used and really and, and act like this is going to sweep the world and everybody will be doing it soon.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, I know. And like ending your career if you don't go along with it. In academia right now we have some reasonable, conservative, sane, you know, moderate lefty folks even saying, yeah, dudes, I totally agree with you. But here at the English department at for instance, UC Davis, if I dare not use my pronouns, my career's over. So gee.
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Joe Getty
Oh yeah, as I've said before, I had a professor friend who retired early because he did not want to do that at that very university.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I think if he could have held on a couple more years. But you know, a couple more years of being forced to your knees to submit to something you know is insane is a long time. But I think we all, and I'm against obscenities in a public place. So if you would like to use the radio friendly version. I'm about to. We need to get used to this phrase. We need to get used to saying it. We need to say it with confidence. That's effing nuts. That's effing crazy or that's effing stupid. We're not going to tell you which of those to choose. It's up to you. You're an American. You got the First Amendment. When somebody says, you know, when, when Professor Jones comes into the room, you've got to say Z laughed. Ask zur. That zur's pen. That pen zurs. Did Z enjoy zer self? You say, that's effing nuts. There you go. You see how it works? Our system's a lot simpler than theirs. There's less memorization.
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Joe Getty
Oh my God, that's funny.
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Joe Getty
They were talking about ratings on MSNBC this morning, I think because CNN and MSNBC's ratings are so low. I'm looking up at Fox right now and there's Karl Rove. And it reminded me so my, my.
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Jack Armstrong
Brother loathes Karl Rove.
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Joe Getty
And it's because in 2012, during the entire election cycle between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, Karl Rove was going on TV every day explaining how Mitt Romney is going to win. And the mainstream media is misleading you. And it's going to be hilarious on election day when everybody figures this out. And then after it wasn't even close, my brother came to the conclusion that he was being lied to by Fox News. That's exactly what is going on with that huge drop off on CNN and specifically MSNBC right now? Because after an entire election season of all those people laughing at the idea that Donald Trump could possibly get elected, and here's why the polls are wrong, and here's how. Here's how crazy you'd have to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then you wake up on election day or the day after and find out, oh, you were all lying to me. Okay, that was all a bunch of crap.
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Jack Armstrong
The kick in the gut. I think it is a kick in the gut mitt. I think you need to add the delicious icing of this to that cake. And that would be the absolute hair on fire hyperbolic. He's Hitler fascist. There will never be another election. Blood running in the streets. And then the next day there's Joe Biden, you know, shaking hands with the guy, right? Come on.
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Joe Getty
That's true. So you combine those two things.
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Jack Armstrong
Cut the crap.
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Joe Getty
You combine those two things and you would have to, like, reorient yourself as to what you're gonna pay attention to or care about because, oh, you guys didn't actually care and. And you were lying.
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Jack Armstrong
So.
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Joe Getty
Okay, now I need to find something else to do with my time. So I'm still reading Bob Woodward's wars and there's some. Those books are so flipping good. It's a shame nobody reads them because nobody does. But the right into the part where the Ukrainian war is about to start in this book. And Biden had just gotten off a long phone call, the longest phone call he'd ever had with Putin. They were on the phone for an hour on a Sunday morning, and Biden was really laying into him about how what a horrible idea it would be to invade Ukraine and everything like that. And Putin was explaining why, why, why he had to do it. And you're planning to put nuclear weapons, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, Biden gets off the phone and says, he effed it up. He f'd the whole thing up. And the people around him are like, what are you talking about? And he's like, barack, he f'd the whole thing up by doing nothing. In 2014, when Putin went into cry Crimea, all he did was signal to Putin that he can get away with anything. Barack effed this up. And I thought, how is that not a headline out of the book? The fact that Joe Biden lays at Barack Obama's feet the responsibility for going into Ukraine, Wow, you got one side.
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Jack Armstrong
Of the media that's utterly dishonest and nothing to see here. He said, Something mean about Trump on page 230. And then the other side of the media doesn't read Woodward, so.
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Joe Getty
Right, right. I thought that was really interesting, that that was Biden's response. He's a jackass. You know, he might be rewriting history in his own memory. I have no idea. But he portrayed it as he was pushing Barack. We gotta push back or Putin will think he can get away with anything. And that doesn't sound like Joe Biden to me. And his response afterward. So I don't know, but I thought that was interesting.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah, I realized the irony of it, that the feckless, gutless Joe Biden is calling his boss Barry feckless and gutless. But the man who is F and G, if you will, he's the last guy who wants a problem shoved down the road to him. You know what I mean? So that's, you know, if you were like a strong, indecisive guy, you would say, yeah, Barack Obama's a coward and he effed this up. And now I've got to deal with it. I'm going to deal with it. Well, and the difference being Biden says, yeah, I'm just going to say, don't, don't.
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Joe Getty
And to Joe Biden's credit, I mean, compared to Barack Obama, I mean, he was Eisenhower in terms of supplying Ukraine with an ability to push back. Because Barack Obama.
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Jack Armstrong
That is correct.
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Joe Getty
Barack Obama did nothing. God, I'm into the chapter right now where we sent over CIA Director Burns to talk to Zelensky. This is right before the invasion happens, and sits down with him and says, look, it's going to happen like next week. And this is what they're going to do. And Zelensky doesn't believe it. And all the European, major European leaders don't believe it. Part of it is because we couldn't lay out all the information we had because we actually had a human being in the Kremlin. So that's where we were getting our info. So we couldn't lay out how we knew this, but we knew it was going to happen. And Zelinski was like, surely not. It can't. Or maybe, you know, his, his. He was hoping it couldn't be true because it's just horrifying. Burn said, they're going to roll in here and their first job is going to be to try to kill you. So what is your security situation like? They've got. They're going to come straight to Kee. It's going to take them like six hours. They're going to be sending out special forces throughout the city hunting for you, trying to kill you. Can you imagine getting that information from the CI Director of the United States? Holy crap.
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Jack Armstrong
I would say just completely overwhelming.
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Joe Getty
As a former YouTube star who's now president of the country. Good lord, that would be some info to get.
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Jack Armstrong
I don't care. You might be the the most seasoned chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. That would still be overwhelming.
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Jack Armstrong
Just become aware of Scott Jennings because he has been hiding from humanity on cnn. But I love the cut of his jib. I love his act. He's calm, he's smart, he's reasonable. I posited last hour that Gen X would save the world. And I realize that's somewhat self serving as we are on the older end of Gen X, but Gen X known for kind of a cut the crap. Don't, don't mess around with us. Just give us the straight scoop. Feel not terribly ideological.
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Joe Getty
I like you pitch. This is not hippies. Not, not, not hippies on the one end. Not needing coloring books and puppies to deal with bad news on the other end.
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Jack Armstrong
Right. Just for goodness sakes, can we, can we speak plainly to each other? Is kind of sort of, and I've always mocked a generation thing, but it's kind of sort of the feel of Gen X. Anyway, I love that with Scott Jennings, essentially, and this is my rallying cry today and probably for a long time. Cut the crap. Scott is saying Cut the crap. Obama deported lots and lots of people. You had nothing to say. So cut the crap. It's crap. It's crap. All right, thank you. And then, you know, I've got also I've got a million examples. You've got this stuff from the University of California, Davis, which is advising the federal government on how to be a woke ally for the Alphabet Soup crew. And they have stuff like instead of some saying someone was born a boy or a girl, try saying they were assigned male at birth. These terms recognize the difference between sex and gender and emphasize the way in which sex and gender are not binary or immutable. They can be changed. No, cut the crap. A man can't become a woman because he takes hormones. You start ovulating, call me back. All right, then I'll concede you're a woman. Cut the crap. Thought this was brilliant from Gerard Baker. I'm going to hit you with Some of it. He's an opinion writer for mostly the Journal, but Jack, jump in anytime you want, obviously. And he talks about Trump's election is a bit of an Emperor's New Clothes moment for America and maybe the rest of the west, to an overdue recognition and repudiation of the regime, of oppressive insanities we've been subjected to for a decade or more. I think everybody's saying, yeah, man, well said, especially in blue states. And, you know, I'm going to issue a battle cry toward the end of this. And I understand you're working.
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Joe Getty
Like, is it going to sound like that?
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Jack Armstrong
It's a lot like that. Maybe, maybe you're working at the infamous UC Davis or Berkeley in California, and you're like, dude, I would love to fight against this stuff, but, but, but. And so it's always with the caveat of do what you can. But I'll tell you this, I can practically guarantee, no matter where you work, you live, you worship, whatever, if you stand up to the crap and you say, cut the crap, you're going to see a bunch of people, maybe a few, maybe a ton, are going to say, yeah, what he said. They're just waiting for someone to call the emperor on having no clothes. Anyway, to Gerard Baker's piece. For a decade or more, yes, even when Republicans have been nominally in control, we've been led by peddlers of a set of ideas that have clothed our institutions in the country in social and political doctrines, fake claims and strictures that have inflicted untold harms. The fancy new items of invisible attire that our nation's rulers have made us wear for too long. Include these. The idea that people who have stolen into this country illegally should be showered with all the rights and benefits of citizens, that it is immoral to den them those rights, and that they should instead be treated as victims of persecution and given sanctuary in our crowded and fiscally strained cities. Call bull us on that. That's ridiculous. The idea that a nation that sits atop one of the greatest reservoirs of natural energy resources on Earth should forcibly restrain itself from exploiting them to save the planet on the basis of politicized science while other countries are free to do much more damage to the global, global environment.
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Joe Getty
That's a good.
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Jack Armstrong
Gavin, cut the crap.
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Joe Getty
That's a good one.
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Jack Armstrong
At the risk of going off on this, as I did last hour, meaningless, effectless gestures in the face of all the other countries on Earth doing what they're doing, you know, if you were going to do some good, come to the table with that argument say, yeah, we got to risk damaging the economy and poor people are going to stay poor and inflation is going to rise because energy prices affect everything. But look that it's lowered emissions 20% globally. Except it hasn't, it hasn't done anything. So cut the crap. Here's another good one. The idea that after a century and a half of progress in solving and soothing America's original sin of racism and making the country more equal, we are suddenly obliged to believe that America is as oppressive as it was in 1619 and that the best way to right the past wrong of treating people based on the color of their skin is to treat people based on the color of their skin.
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Joe Getty
God, I hope that's over. I really hope that's over.
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Jack Armstrong
What, what we all hope for is those radicals just nasty people don't have the juice to end your career anymore because your management, your corporate godfathers are such cowards they're not going to stand up to the crap. It's easier to fire you. They'll say on the way out, you know, Jim, I'm really sorry about this. I mean, it's really unfortunate they don't have the balls to say because you said nothing wrong, but these people are so mad, I'm going to capitulate to them. But that's what they're thinking. Stand up to it.
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Joe Getty
I'm less optimistic on the illegal immigration part because I've been fooled before. But on the trans and anti racist and what was the other one I was going to include in that? It'll come to me. But on a couple of those. Is it possible the climate change, is it possible we're on the other side of those? And we just all, unfortunately those of us of a certain age just lived through this really weird time.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Where things people said, all kinds of crazy stuff and you had to go along with it.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I think we're at this stage of it where the troops are rallied, we're aware we're fired up. But you got to remember the enemy is absolutely running our nation's educational complex right now and our media and entertainment. But education is the most insidious part because they're indoctrinating our kids. So yeah, the battle has just begun. Here's another great one. Another one of these insane ideas that we've been forced to pretend are not idiotic. The idea that children should, without parental consultation or consent, be free to choose their gender, be assisted by the state in committing acts of self mutilation, to do so. And all on the understanding that we have repealed millennia of science and just discover there's no such thing as biological sex. Bull ass. Cut the crap.
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Joe Getty
I think that one is the biggest anchor around Gavin Newsom's neck. If he tries to run for president, how is he going to. How is he going to deal with that?
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Jack Armstrong
Experimenting on and mutilating children because they're momentarily confused in adolescence.
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Joe Getty
And Gavin signed into law the idea that the schools can keep it a secret from. So that, in fact, they must. How does. How does he deal with that?
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Jack Armstrong
That's one of the reasons I want him to run. I want him to be beaten like a drum for these reasons, because it's important to defeat this crap. There's a little more. More of the Emperor's New Clothes that people have just been walking around silently pretending they didn't notice or too afraid to resist. The idea that democracy and freedom are best protected by denying people the right to express certain views that the authorities deem disinformation, and by weaponizing the law against political opponents, lest they weaponize the law for political purposes. That's a good one. There are actually Democrats out right now saying, hey, you know, weaponizing law against candidates is probably a bad strategy. Admitting that that was the strategy. So ambitious elites in business and civil society went along with these fictions. Politicians on all sides, including Republicans, declined to dissent for fear of being called out. And here's where Gerard Baker gives Trump a fair amount of credit. It took a man with some of the instincts of a child, a political ingenue newcomer lacking the sophistication to participate in the sham, to call the whole thing out for what it was. And then he makes it clear that he's not, like, totally in on Trump and his plans and his policies and the rest of it. But for God's sake, we needed to call bull s on the bull s. But here's what I'm optimistic about. He says, four years from now, there's a good chance that the nonsense we have had to endure will be buried, that important things will become normal again. It will have become normal to tell people they have. Who have no right to be here, that they must leave. That in the process, people around the world will have been made to understand that they don't have an automatic right to live in the freest, most prosperous country on earth. Then he goes on, the children, you know, I'm going to hit this because it's one of my jihads. It will have become normal, normal again for children to be helped to respond to the inevitable strains and traumas of growing up not by having their genitals cut out, but by receiving loving guidance and care from family and society. Cut the crap.
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Joe Getty
I hope that's true. I hope that's true. I think it's true.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. But again, it's going to be a longer and harder battle than four years, man. The university system and their influence on the elementary education system and secondary. It's going to be a long, hard fight, but I'm up for it.
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Jack Armstrong
Chris Rufo. You'll know you love him with a great piece, why Boeing Killed dei. And the lead is the important part of reckoning is underway in corporate America. You remember after the death of George Floyd in 2020, likely every Fortune 500 company launched a diversity, equity and inclusion program with very serious faces as they were running terrified from the Marxists who claimed racial justice was their motivation. But now, four short years later, many companies are quietly acknowledging the failure of these initiatives and in some cases, winding them. And Rufo has been writing about DEI at Boeing for a while. He's got an inside source well placed high up that described it this way. Quote, I thought this was really good. DEI is the drop you put in the bucket and the whole bucket changes. It is anti excellence and because it is ill defined, it becomes part of the culture.
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Joe Getty
That is some of the most evocative phrasing I've ever heard.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, the drop you put in a.
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Joe Getty
Bucket and it changes a whole bucket.
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Jack Armstrong
That's interesting, folks. You've become aware that the whole WOKE thing, dei, anti racism thing, you can't win. It's a constantly moving target. If you say you're not a racist, you're a racist. And if you say you're a racist, you're a racist. But either way, you shut up. We're in charge. There's no way to win against the WOKE people. That's not part of it. They're not talking to you to come to an understanding. They're talking to you to rule you. And more people are understanding that. And in the context of Boeing, obviously.
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Joe Getty
Next thing you know, the doors are falling off your planes.
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Jack Armstrong
For instance. Yeah. Earlier this month, Boeing installed new CEO Kelly Ortberg quietly dismantled the DEI department and accepted the resignation of the office's vice president. So Rufo reached out to the same insider to get insight onto what happened and how it happened. And he says, tell us what happened with dei. It went from dominant to Extinct in a very short period of time. The insider says we're shifting from a company whose culture is simply the average of corporate America to a distinct and deliberate vision of leadership. The new boss wants Boeing focused on being an airplane company with our own culture and vision. The resulting cash crunch from the strike accelerated this culture shift. When you start to focus on delivering value instead of preserving status, it becomes obvious what drives value, and it's not dei. And then he gets into. He asked. My sense is that many executives are not genuinely committed to DEI as an ideology. They simply want to build airplanes or create software, for instance, but they feel social pressure to maintain these departments. Is that true at Boeing? And if so, when did the calculus change? And the answer is DEI is lazy thought leadership best practiced by companies in smooth waters with margins large enough to afford. Afford the associated inefficiency that isn't Boeing today. When the new boss prioritized results over fitting in with other CEOs, it sends a strong signal to the culture and builds trust because employees know the rules and it's clear how to succeed through hard work and results. McKinsey that the consulting group now debunked analysis was the standard driver in corporate boardrooms. But even if DEI has to defend itself on purely logical grounds, it doesn't stand up. Boeing, more than anything, needs an aligned workforce focused on building airplanes. And it's an easy decision to reject the divisive and US Centric language of DEI in favor of unified vision for a diverse global company. Anyway, I thought that was. That was really good, just as a description of how it works.
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Joe Getty
And DEI could go away under a Trump administration, which won't be, you know, working to push that on corporate America. Whereas if the Kamala Harris administration, there would have been so much pressure on all these companies to continue that. Or added, if they hadn't already.
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Jack Armstrong
Right. And it's. It's a bludgeon. Again, it's not about racial justice or any of the things it claims to be about. Like in Jack's scenario, which is a good one, the Harris administration wanted Boeing to suddenly, you know, unionize its last three facilities or something like that. Well, then they could hammer them with DEI stuff or through their DEI executives and get on their knees begging for mercy because they were being accused of racism. It's the old Jesse Jackson operation push, blackmail scam. You don't want racial justice. You want something else, but you use claims of racial injustice to get there. It's the. It's the race hustler thing. Anyway, I thought this was good too. From the National Review. Lathan Watts DEI is a corporate bust and he starts about the. He starts with the wild overreaction to the death of George Floyd and how all the corporations were terrified and how Robbie Starbuck, the filmmaker, has been using sunlight as the best disinfectant. And he's brought failed policies that are legally questionable and highly unpopular with consumers to the attention of the general public and the shareholders of these corporations. As a result, some of the best known brands in the country have hastily canceled their DEI programs and cut ties with the far left Human Rights Campaign, which pressures companies to do things like cover sex hormones and puberty blockers for minors.
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Joe Getty
Wow.
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Jack Armstrong
Monstrous Nazi like experiments on children.
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Joe Getty
Your company has to cover that stuff in their insurance plan.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow. Yeah, yeah. And I thought this was interesting. Unwilling to let the practical failure of a policy distract from the political fervor. 49 members of Congress, keeping in mind there are 435 of these geeks spurred on, signed an open letter to Fortune 1000 businesses demanding that they double down on DEI. But these companies have recently received two more open letters encouraging them to hold the line in favor of healthy ROI return on investment over feeble DEI ideology.
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Joe Getty
I like that slogan, Roi, not DEI for the companies I want to invest in.
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Jack Armstrong
I love that. The second of those two letters came from 17 state treasurers and other financial officials. State financial officials who are responsible for the gigantic state investment vehicles that hold billions of dollars in ownership positions in these companies for their retirees and that sort of thing. And unlike the partisan gamesmanship paraphrasing the piece in the National Review here, where the 49 Congress geeks, liberal culty jackasses are saying, you've got to double down on di. These people are saying, hey, we don't have the luxury of you and your virtue signaling crap. Would you run your company for efficiency, please? Not to please aoc. And so it's good to see you Remember it was what, a year ago I started saying end all DEI programs now, wherever they exist. And it's happening in spades. Hurrah, hurrah. Better for black people, better for white and Hispanic people, Asian people. In short, go get them.
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Joe Getty
Awesome. The tide sure turned on that whole thing fast.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Although it is still monstrous in academia, media, Hollywood and government. In government itself, friends. Which is why I'm always saying this is just the end of the beginning.
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Joe Getty
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