The A&G Replay Wednesday Hour Two

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: The A&G Replay Wednesday Hour Two
Release Date: November 27, 2024
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
Podcast Description: The official, On-Demand podcast of The Armstrong & Getty Show! Accept no substitutes!

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1. Exploring the Grateful Dead Phenomenon

Timestamps: [03:06] – [14:21]

In this segment, Joe Getty and Unknown Speaker delve into the enduring allure of the Grateful Dead, dissecting what makes their concerts uniquely captivating even after nearly six decades.

Key Discussions:

• Concert Dynamics: The hosts discuss the Grateful Dead's consistent ability to fill stadiums without introducing new material, relying solely on songs that are over 50 years old.
• Audience Diversity: They observe the multi-generational audience spanning from their 20s to 70s, highlighting the band's universal appeal.
• Performance Style: The improvisational and extended jam sessions are pinpointed as a core element that keeps audiences engaged for hours.
• Community and Vibe: Joe Getty emphasizes the positive, judgment-free community at Grateful Dead concerts, fostering an environment where everyone feels included and entertained.

Notable Quotes:

• Unknown Speaker [04:08]: "Every age group there. And I don't know what they created or why. I just was just looking around trying to take it all in."
• Joe Getty [08:15]: "It's art, it's magic, it's culture, it's a vibe."

Insights:

• The Grateful Dead's strategy of encouraging live recordings and fostering a strong community has significantly contributed to their sustained success.
• The lack of introductory remarks before performances adds to the immersive experience, allowing the music to speak for itself.

2. An Unearthly Call: LBJ's Pants Order

Timestamps: [15:10] – [19:20]

The hosts transition to a fascinating historical anecdote featuring a recorded phone call between Lyndon Baines Johnson (LBJ) and his tailor, Joe Hager, discussing the intricate details of his pants.

Key Discussions:

• LBJ's Down-to-Earth Nature: This segment humanizes the former president, showcasing his practical concerns and straightforward communication style.
• Tailoring Specifics: The detailed exchange about fabric colors, fit, and functional adjustments (e.g., pocket sizes and waist alterations) provides a quirky glimpse into LBJ's personal preferences.
• Contrast with the Kennedys: The conversation highlights the contrasting personalities and lifestyles between LBJ and the Kennedy family, emphasizing LBJ's humble Texas roots against the Kennedys' affluent background.

Notable Quotes:

• LBJ [15:36]: "I need about six pairs around in the evening when I come in from work."
• Unknown Speaker [17:54]: "Money My money and my knife, everything fall out."

Insights:

• The call underscores LBJ's practical needs and his reliance on skilled craftsmanship to maintain his wardrobe.
• This anecdote serves to differentiate LBJ’s persona from his contemporaries, revealing a more relatable side of a historical figure.

3. The Bully's Path to Success: A Five-Decade Study

Timestamps: [25:00] – [35:14]

Joe Getty and Katie engage in a deep conversation about a comprehensive British study examining the correlation between childhood bullying behaviors and adult financial success.

Key Discussions:

• Study Findings: The study indicates that individuals who exhibited aggressive behaviors in school, such as bullying and temper outbursts, tend to earn more during middle age compared to their non-aggressive peers.
• Underlying Reasons: The hosts speculate that traits like assertiveness and leadership, often associated with bullying, may translate into professional success.
• Personal Reflections: Joe shares personal anecdotes from his coaching experiences, highlighting how early aggressive behavior can evolve into strong leadership skills, though not without potential downsides like increased sociability and risk of legal issues.
• Educational Implications: They discuss the importance of allowing children to express their individuality rather than conforming to rigid behavioral norms, arguing that suppressing natural tendencies may hinder the development of future leaders.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Getty [26:09]: "Bullies do not prosper" — reflecting on societal beliefs contrasted by the study’s findings.
• Katie [26:09]: "I can kind of see where they're going with this because the people that are more outspoken maybe going further in business rather than the meek that get picked on."

Insights:

• The conversation challenges the traditional adage that "bullies do not prosper," presenting evidence that aggressive behaviors may, under certain conditions, contribute to financial success.
• It raises important questions about the role of education in balancing the suppression of negative behaviors and the cultivation of strong, assertive leaders.

4. Humorous Interlude: Lost in Translation

Timestamps: [38:01] – [43:43]

The show takes a lighter turn as Katie shares a humorous clip of a man telling a story in an unknown language, leading to a playful discussion about the universality of humor and the importance of timing in comedy.

Key Discussions:

• Language Barriers in Comedy: The hosts talk about how humor transcends language through elements like timing, laughter, and storytelling cadence.
• Audience Reaction: They explore the idea that certain comedic elements, such as an infectious laugh, can enhance the humor even if the content is not understood.
• Speculation on Content: While unable to comprehend the story fully, they humorously speculate about its potential content, adding a layer of meta-comedy to the segment.

Notable Quotes:

• Unknown Speaker [42:03]: "Do you see my hands behind your back? And then I cuff them."
• Joe Getty [43:23]: "Do we run that through Google Translate, figure out what sort of horror we've unleashed?"

Insights:

• This segment highlights the subjective nature of humor and how certain elements can universally elicit laughter, regardless of language comprehension.
• It underscores the role of non-verbal cues and delivery in making content humorous to a wide audience.

5. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

Timestamps: [43:43] – [45:39]

As the episode nears its conclusion, the hosts briefly touch upon various topics, including popular culture references and light-hearted banter about police agency swag, maintaining the show's engaging and personable tone.

Key Discussions:

• Cultural Observations: They make playful references to brands and societal trends, keeping the conversation relatable and entertaining.
• Personal Anecdotes: Joe and Katie share personal preferences and humorous interactions, fostering a sense of camaraderie with the audience.

Notable Quotes:

• Katie [38:10]: "You wouldn't catch me dead in an EPA sweatshirt."
• Joe Getty [38:37]: "I wear my FBI swag all the time and arrest people."

Insights:

• The casual and humorous exchanges serve to strengthen the connection between the hosts and their listeners, ensuring the podcast remains both informative and entertaining.

6. Sponsor Highlights (Skipped in Summary)

Throughout the episode, various advertisements promote NFLShop.com, Vizio Quantum TVs, Dan Snow's History Hit podcast, Chumba Casino, and the "After Dark" podcast. As per the request, these sections were omitted from the summary to focus solely on the content-driven discussions.

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Conclusion

The A&G Replay Wednesday Hour Two episode offers a rich tapestry of discussions ranging from the timeless appeal of the Grateful Dead and intriguing historical anecdotes to thought-provoking analyses of behavioral studies and engaging humorous segments. Joe Getty and Katie skillfully navigate these topics, providing listeners with insightful commentary, personal reflections, and entertaining exchanges. Notable quotes and timestamps enrich the narrative, offering depth and context to each subject matter discussed.

Whether delving into the cultural significance of legendary bands, unpacking the complexities of human behavior, or sharing lighthearted moments, this episode exemplifies the dynamic and multifaceted nature of the Armstrong & Getty Show, making it a compelling listen for both regular followers and newcomers alike.

Transcript

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[Unknown Speaker]

I saw an article in the New York Times about the final Dead shows happening in San Francisco over the weekend. They played Friday, Saturday, Sunday night, final shows of their tour. They said there's chances they'll get back together again for a benefit or something. But they're never going to tour again, they claim. I don't think they probably actually are. They've made that claim many times over the years. They're very old. Yeah, Bob Weir's like Joe Biden old. And I noticed him.

[Joe Getty]

Well, he was. He was gigging as an adult during the Summer of Love in 1967.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, that's one of the things I want to bring up with this phenomenon. So speaking of it being a phenomenon, one of the reasons I went was it's a phenomenon. I haven't been to a concert in I think 15 years. So it'd been a long time. So I'd been to a concert and dead and company was coming to the area. It's 60 miles from my house. And I kind of thought about it a couple times and I looked at prices and there too high. Anyway, I finally decided, you know what, I'm going to do it. So I bought a ticket two hours before, three hours before the show started, hopped on my motorcycle, rode into San Francisco to the base.

[Joe Getty]

Online stub hub.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. And didn't even pay a ton for it. Luckily, I think people started to panic. Some of the people that had put, I'll say one for $8,000 were starting to panic if they had some left. So it didn't get a bad price. Anyway, I was trying to figure out, while I was sitting there in the concert, I was trying to figure out what is the phenomenon of the whole Grateful Dead thing. As you mentioned, they've been doing this for 55 years, 57 years, something like that. With only a couple of exceptions, every song they play is 50 plus years old. They haven't created anything new in forever. And the crowd and the place, I don't know if it was sold out, but I didn't see any empty seats up in the stands. The crowd varied. There were lots of 20 somethings, there were lots of 30 somethings, 40 something, 50 something, 60 something, 70 somethings. Every, every age group there. And I don't, I don't know what, what they created or why. I just, I was just looking around trying to take it all in, trying to figure out what, what happened here.

[Joe Getty]

Why.

[Unknown Speaker]

Why has nobody else ever been able to do this? I remember when we were in Charlotte, North Carolina, the Grateful Dead came through in the mid-90s, and I didn't know anything about the Grateful Dead. I've never really been into the Grateful Dead. They came through town and I didn't go to the concert, but I was at a party that night at a house and a number of people had been to the Dead concert and they. This is pre Internet. So in the Internet era, obviously you can go online and check what the set list is for every concert and they would be posted as soon as the concert is over. But this is before the Internet. So these guys would run home and some of them took scraps of paper and pens with them. Some of them were just using the knowledge. And they were sitting there at the kitchen table at this party saying, okay, so what did they play first set? Well, they opened with this, open with that, writing it all down. They kept the log of all the concerts they'd seen in the set list in a way that just, I don't think happens that often with bands. Part of it is they, they don't play that many songs because each song is 13 to 15 minutes long. So you play like four songs, take a break, play four more songs and you, your three hours are up. That's one weird aspect of the whole thing. The other thing is they don't come out and say a word and never have, according to the New York Times. They don't say, hey, Atlanta, good to be here. Here's one from the new, you know, thanks for coming, or nothing. They don't see.

[Joe Getty]

No, they wander out and start playing.

[Unknown Speaker]

They wander out, start playing, and when they're done, they walk off and that's it. And, and from the beginning, another interesting thing is they've always encouraged people recording it and posting live recordings and they got gazillions alive albums and just. Well, you tell me what, what is different about that band that allowed them to tour for 50 some years? I was just looking it up. Still one of the top grossing concert tours out there. They didn't play that many shows, but they're making gazillions of dollars.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

In ticket sales and T shirt sales and everything like that. Oh, and one more thing before I let you. You answer the question, because you know more about it than I do. So they walk out, they start playing and it's got a drum beat to it that I don't quite recognize off the top of my head because all the songs kind of have a similar drum beat and a similar thing. And everybody's twirling, all the girls are twirling in their thing and then everybody's dancing, everything like that. Not a single person in that stadium that I saw sat for 1 second, 3 and a half hours. I've never been to a concert like that. I've been to plenty of concerts where people stand for the big hits, then sit back down for a slow song or whatever. Not a person I was expecting to get to sit for a while. None of that happened. So they do the drumbeat, drumbeat. And they open with the Buddy Holly song that they do regularly.

[Joe Getty]

Probably not fade away.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, yeah. And so then the drum, the drums stop and then the whole crowd in unison says, I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna do. And then everybody sang every word to every song for three and a half hours. Never sat down. I've never seen anything like that. Why is that? You tell me why that is.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sure there are multiple books written to address that very question. And they are book length, as books often are, I would say. I mean, number one at the beginning, they were just a whale of a band. I mean, just a terrific band. That was incredible. Well, you know, there's a couple of sayings among musicians. Ragged but right or loose but tight. They had a combination of being extremely good and extremely loose and improvisational and really fun music to listen to if you're stoned. Plus they have a weird, like hippie community thing going. Like, we're all here, we're all friends. Nobody's going to get ugly. It's going to be great. Everybody's going to enjoy themselves. Nobody's going to judge anybody else. We're going to listen to the jams and have a great time, you know, there. And there are actually other bands that have it. You just don't hear about it as much. Fish has an enormous following that's very Grateful Deadlike. And there are a couple others. Dave Matthews Band, surely, but not on.

[Unknown Speaker]

That scale for that long. Without ever putting any new stuff out.

[Joe Getty]

Well, no, no, that's what's just like you.

[Unknown Speaker]

And how do you grow new fans in their 20s with 55 year old songs? I mean, it's. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Well, part of it's that the Songs hold up pretty well and. And it's a jam.

[Unknown Speaker]

Part of.

[Joe Getty]

It's just. There's an attraction to being part of that that draws young people. The whole I'm a hippie thing is. Is hot Amongst your. Your 20 somethings, at least in some quarters. Oregon, for instance, right?

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, yeah. The people sitting next to me were from Oregon and they were going to all three shows. Everybody around me was going to all three shows. I was the only one that was just going to the one. The one show. And it was a mom and dad roughly my age with their high school kids. They brought all their kids and their kids knew all the words to every song. I don't. I don't know. It's. It's unlike anything I've ever been around. I've been to. I've. I got plenty of acts that I like that do that on a smaller scale. Like there's several hundred people that are that into it, but not hundreds of thousands. For six decades. It's just. Yeah, I don't. I. And then I wonder how much of it was it like grew on itself, like, you know, becomes a thing and a thing is a. That's nothing draws across like a crowd, that whole thing.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's. It's such an attractive, like, vibe, an attractive corner of humankind that people who weren't there at the beginning or if, you know, they didn't grow up with the songs or whatever, just the idea that. That many people could get together and have their energy be so positive and a lack of conflict and a lack of people being a. Holes like people tend to be and listening to the music and dancing and stuff, it's just. It's an attractive proposition. And you know why? You know why? It's. It's on a scale that nobody else has ever matched. I don't know. It's art, it's magic, it's culture, it's a vibe.

[Unknown Speaker]

I thought at some point, surely we're going to sit down during one of these slow songs, aren't we? I mean, it's a Friday night. We've all worked all week long. We're all a little tired. Come on. A lot of you are way older than I am, surely. Nope. Nobody was sitting down at any point, even for a moment.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I am a fan. I am not a Deadhead. I have some good friends who are. Here is my horrifying. Well, I'm sorry, it's my impressive but horrifying Grateful Dead claim to fame. I Was at Jerry Garcia's last show before he died in Chicago.

[Unknown Speaker]

Did you play a role or.

[Joe Getty]

Many years ago. And I fell sound asleep halfway through it. Fell asleep because I may have been over served. It was also.

[Unknown Speaker]

Take on that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, okay. You call it what you want. It was a very hot summer day in Chicago.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh my God. If.

[Joe Getty]

Drinking beer and all, getting ready and sitting there baking in the sun in Soldier Field, just baking. I'm surprised. I'm not. Has this all been. Maybe I'm dead. Maybe I died that day and this has all been a prolonged hallucination.

[Unknown Speaker]

It was like 55 degrees in the middle of the concert for this one. So. Yeah, I didn't have that problem.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you were better off. Trust me.

[Unknown Speaker]

I don't know how John Mayer plays guitar with a giant winter coat on zipped up around his ears the way he did. He's flick flipping phenomenal, by the way. John Mayer is just freaking unreal.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, he's a monster.

[Unknown Speaker]

But he's not happy to have it come to an end. I don't know. There's not much said about why they decided to wrap it up. New York Times went deep on that over the weekend. But I did notice that Bob Weir, he would play for a while and then he would take his hand off and shake his hand a lot. And I hadn't seen that in videos before because I've watched a lot of Dead and company videos over the last several years because I just like got into it when John Mayer joined, which I know makes me something. Something uncool among real Dead fans.

[Joe Getty]

Jerry come lately?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, something. But anyway, he wasn't doing that before. I wonder if he doesn't have something physical that's happening. He just can't play every night like that.

[Joe Getty]

Handful of my favorite musicians have had to give it up because arthritis or.

[Unknown Speaker]

How are you standing up there for three and a half hours and paying attention to what you're doing? I'm dying out here. Standing for three and a half. I don't know. Maybe they think about how much money they're making.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe they enjoy playing music. Listen to you, you cynic. You couldn't be a Deadhead. I'm surprised you weren't drummed out of the stadium. I'm getting bad vibes from the bald man over here, man. Get out.

[Unknown Speaker]

It was definitely the single best vibe at. At that scale that I've ever been around in my life. And man, that's a heck of a thing to pull off. I doubt it'll ever be recreated Certainly not for that length. Not possible.

[Joe Getty]

Not in the modern world, no.

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[Unknown Speaker]

The New York Times with a hilariously long article about pants and how wide pants are in now and skinny pants are out. Which I was. It was hilarious. I read quite a bit of it just because I found it hilarious how seriously they took this topic and how in depth they went in the New York Times about it. But anyway, that we then played a little clip of Lyndon Baines Johnson, President of the United States from 63 to 68, talking to his tailor on the phone about his pants. And Katie had never heard it before because Katie's new to the show. Roughly how long you been here? A year?

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Time flies.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yikes. So this is Linda B. Johnson, who had his pants special made by a tailor back in Texas. And LBJ was. Was a. Was a corn pone. That's actually what the Kennedy people called him. Colonel Cone Corn pone to his face.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's cold.

[Unknown Speaker]

Nice relationship. Anyway, he's from small town Texas and he's talking to his tailor about getting a new pair of pants ordered. And it sounded something like this.

Mr. Hager? Yes. This is Joe Hager. Joe, is your father the one that makes clothes? Yes, sir. We're all together. Y'all made me some real lightweight slacks that he just made up on his own. Sent to me three or four months ago. It's kind of a light brown and a light green, rather soft green and soft brown. And they're real light weight. I need about six pairs around in the evening when I come in from work. And I need about a half an inch too tight in the waist. Do you recall the exact size?

[Joe Getty]

I just wondered.

[Unknown Speaker]

I want to be sure we get them right for you. No, I don't know. You all just guessed at them, I think sent them. But wouldn't you have the measurements there? I can send you a pair. I want them half an inch larger in the waist than they were before. Except I want 2 or 3 inches of stuff left back in there so I can take them up. I vary 10 to 15 pounds a month, so leave me at least two and a half, three inches in the back where I can let them out or take them up and make these a half inch bigger than the waist, make the pockets at least an inch longer. Money My money and my knife, everything fall out. Wait just a minute. Now, the pockets, when you sit down in the chair, the knife and your money comes out. So I needed at least another inch in the pockets. Yeah. Now, another thing. The crotch down where you hang is always a little too tight. So when you make them up, give me an inch that I can let out there because they cut me. It's just like riding a wire fence. These are almost. These are the best that I've had anywhere in the United States. But when I gained a little weight, they cut me under there. So leave me. You never do have much margin there. Let's see if you can't leave me about an inch from where the zipper ends around under my back to my hole so I can let it out there if I need to. Now, be sure you got the best zippers in them. These are good that I have. And if you get those coming, I would sure be grateful.

There you go. At a historical moment, actual phone call with president of the United States.

[Joe Getty]

Cut me like I'm on a wire fence or something.

[Unknown Speaker]

The fact.

[Katie]

Don't leave me much margin.

[Joe Getty]

You gotta have margin.

[Unknown Speaker]

The fact that he burps right before he uses the word is my favorite part.

[Joe Getty]

That is what.

[Katie]

That's one of my favorite pieces of audio.

[Unknown Speaker]

Isn't it amazing ever? It's amazing. It shows you who he was. He was from poor Texas hill country to his bones. That's what he was. Right.

[Joe Getty]

And it's probably worth the tip of the cap that he was calling the Hager family who became one of the great clothiers of that time of history.

[Unknown Speaker]

About five inches. Right back to my hang.

[Joe Getty]

What's the.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's the best part.

[Steve Post]

My crotch.

[Joe Getty]

You know, where my. Yeah, we know what a crotch is. The reason people use the word crotch is so they don't have to say where your money. That's some plain talk there, gotta tell you.

[Unknown Speaker]

And if you're actually into, you know, history and this sort of stuff, the Carol book about the relationship between LBJ and the Kennedy family is amazing because you just heard who the guy was. That's way different then the Kennedy clan.

[Joe Getty]

The Kennedys of Harvard.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, yeah. Hyannis, Port Kennedys and their, you know, golf clubs and tennis clubs and that sort of stuff. No wonder they didn't get along with. And vice versa with lbj. Oh, my God, that's hilarious.

[Joe Getty]

Patrician accents and their crisp suits and the rest of it with practically no margin where they're. Or hanged at the time from there.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. And it seem in the middle. It's like riding a rail fence. I mean it's just oh my God.

[Katie]

Like something my grandfather would say.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's some weight back and it cuts me, cuts me o Jack Armstrong.

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[Joe Getty]

Now, Katie, you don't know this probably, but Jack and I have had a long running and bitter dispute. I really like appetizers if I'm out to eat or whatever. He's got like, he's a member of isis. He's got this militant anti appetizer belief. It's stupid. Just have the meal. Just have the meal. You don't need to have appetizers. And anyway, I won't go any further because again, we're not bad mouthing him, okay? And he's insane and unsupportable. Some would say idiotic beliefs. But Jack is anti appetizer. I, on the other hand, love appetizers. And in fact, Judy and I went to a breast cancer fundraiser just last night and I bought at probably excessive cost, but it wasn't a purchase, it's a donation. I bought an appetizer of the month club membership in which some of the gifted chefs associated with this community, slash, it was a golf club. They deliver to your home like a gourmet appetizer once a month. Oh, I know, I know. That's awesome. I know. So like, I'll say, yeah, can we do it this coming Friday? And they'll say, absolutely. And they'll show up with like this brilliantly crafted stuffed mushrooms or something like that. It's a great excuse to have like friends over for a glass of wine and stuff. And we get the credit.

[Katie]

Oh, that is so cool.

[Joe Getty]

No, I know it.

[Katie]

Okay, so what kind of things do they offer? So stuffed mushrooms, obviously. Are there other.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I realized that this, the very term has a negative connotation, but I don't know why. They did like a super delicious cheese ball, one of those big cheese balls. You dig in with the knife and put it on crackers. But it was like home crafted. Oh, cheese ball.

[Unknown Speaker]

Those are good.

[Katie]

Cheese ball. So that sounds awesome to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And a friend, a friend of ours actually bought this last year and I can't remember what else there, like a shrimp thing and various canapes, whatever that is, but just super yummy. Like gourmet appetizers.

[Katie]

Yeah. See, this sounds like money. Well, excited about me yeah, well, I.

[Joe Getty]

Mean in particularly, I mean it was several hundred dollars. Again, it's a donation, not a purchase. But when you look at what you spe like go out for a nice dinner now, especially if you have a bottle of wine or something like that. Holy crap. So anyway, I'm happy to contribute. Judy actually she quilted a thing, a golf cart seat cover that fits like custom fits around the little, what do you call it? The hip rest things to keep you from sliding off the end of it.

[Katie]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, so we made a nice donation to. It was a nice, nice fundraiser. Anyway, came across this article. Playground bullies do prosper and go on to earn more in middle age. This is a five decade study that's thorough. It was Brits. Children who displayed aggressive behavior at school such as bullying or temper outbursts are likely to earn more money in middle age according to a five decade study that appends the maxim that bullies do not prosper. Any reaction of that, Katie, off the top of your head?

[Katie]

I can, I can kind of see where they're going with this because the people that are more outspoken maybe going further in business rather than the meek that get picked on. I can see that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. This is one of the reasons I'm so militant about in schools not making little boys act like little girls, nor should you make little girls act like little boys, let them be themselves. But the idea that you're to sit still and be quiet and just like the girls are doing. Because as a youth coach mostly in soccer, I coach baseball and softball a little bit too, but observing the difference between boys and girls. And then I coached, gosh, I coached 8 year old boys, 10 year old boys, 12 year old boys, that sort of range. And then 14 year old girls was the oldest I ever coached. But I would watch 10 Year Old Boys and there are like 15 guys on the team. Right. So it's a nice like selection of different sorts of human beings. And you could see, okay, that kid is going to be a dynamic leader, but at age 10 he's obnoxious because he has the tool but he doesn't know how to wield it properly.

[Katie]

That's a great point.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, just. And I wish I'd thought about this more, but I could give you more examples of just they're all diamonds in the rough. I mean some of them are probably going to end up in jail or beating their spouse or something like that. I mean not everybody's a diamond, but they're too much of everything. But that's how you End up, I think with a good man. It's very rare that a meek. Well, no, I don't want to. I don't want to overstate this because some people are just introverts. But we need to get back to boys will be boys. And that saying has been perverted to mean allegedly so they can do anything they want. But no, that's not what that saying means at all. It means you have to put up with the excesses of boyhood to end up with good men. No, I abhor bullying, but go ahead.

[Katie]

No, I like what you said too about they have the tool, they just don't know how to use it yet because you do. You might see a leader in this 10 year old, but that not yet because right now they don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, they're loud and obnoxious. Yeah. Or they bully, for instance. Now some bullies remain bullies and they're a holes and I hate them and I hope they go to prison. But some people, you know this. If I haven't told this story in ages, I remember the first time I told this story. Now, Gladys, do you play the harp? When I'm thinking about, I'm looking back at telling a story about looking back.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, she's here for.

[Joe Getty]

Do you play the harp twice or how does that work? Doesn't matter. Just go ahead and start talking. So I was, I was having this argument with a frenemy, okay, He, I was like the, the pitcher on the baseball team, the high school baseball team. And he was the catcher and he was a really good catcher, really good ballplayer. But he and I had this like two alpha dogs thing going on. And so there was respect and all, but we clashed. We clashed a fair amount. And we got, we got into it one time verbally and he said to me, and I wish I had, I wish I'd written the quote down. He said something like, I'm not even going to get into it with you because you'll cut me to bits.

[Katie]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

And I thought he sees my verbal ability as a tool of meanness and cruelty. And I thought, I don't want to be that guy ever again. I don't want to. I mean, unless somebody's got it coming. I decided, okay, I have the ability to hurt people with words. I am never going to do that to an innocent victim. And maybe I've lapsed at times of loss of temper or what have you in the intervening years, but I've never thought of myself. Part of it is I never thought of myself as A bully because I would never hurt anybody physically. But I realized at that moment he views me as some sort of verbal bully. And I thought, I'm not going to be that. And I hate that. This is painful for me to admit that I might have kind of been that quote unquote bully who then grew up to not be a bully as an adult.

[Katie]

That's interesting because when you said what, when you quoted what he said, I heard it as like you have more of a verbal ability than him. Not that you're cruel with your words, but that you could verbally take him if you guys were to get into an argument.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. I guess the subtlety of it is I always saw it as like winning an argument as opposed to leaving a victim.

[Katie]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it's, you know, like the typical adolescent. It was self centered. I looked at it from my point of view, I win. And I spanked him and sent him running.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

But I hadn't developed the compassion to really see it from the other person's perspective. And like I say, if it's somebody trying to, for instance, you know, like push experimental sex change procedures on children, I'll rip them apart if I can. I will turn every skill I have full blast for the kids sake. But like I said, no, no, nobody who doesn't have it coming. I just won't do that.

[Katie]

Yeah, and recognizing that about yourself too is a big thing because I have a very similar. I like to call it a sharp tongue, especially when I picture that at all. Yeah, no, I don't have that one bit. But that's something that I've been working on my whole life is realizing, yo, Kate, cool it. Because I know that once it takes off, Bad news bears.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right. You don't punch everybody who deserves it and you don't strip them naked with your verbiage if they don't deserve it either, even though you can.

[Katie]

And when they do, though, oh, is it fun?

[Joe Getty]

So now the temper outburst thing is interesting. They found an increase in teachers observations of conduct problems such as temper outbursts or bullying or teasing other children was associated with an increase in earnings of nearly 4% of any given rise in conduct problems for boys or girls. That compares to a 6% rise for higher cognition skills. And so as a measure of who's going to do well, at least financially. And oh boy, now that I think about it, that's an interesting way to measure this anyway. But being like hot tempered is almost as good an indicator of being successful in life than being smart.

[Katie]

Yeah. Based off how they put it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. It's 40% to 6. Well, I guess you could say it's 50% more likely. But you see my point. Further analysis showed that by age 60, those with conduct problems were more sociable as teenagers and were more likely to smoke and be arrested at some point in their lives.

[Katie]

Oh, there's that.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. So is it just being more dynamic in general? I do not know.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

They point out many people, many successful people have had various problems in school, like Winston Churchill, various folks expelled, suspended, who ended up being famous or successful or what have you.

[Katie]

Well, like in today's news. I mean, look at Trump. He's considered a bully. He's probably been like that his whole life.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think he's still a bully. It's one of the things I don't particularly like about him, but I was.

[Unknown Speaker]

Thinking about Steve Jobs.

[Joe Getty]

Genius.

[Unknown Speaker]

But I've heard he was a complete bully.

[Katie]

I heard that too.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, that's right. I was picturing his youth, but yeah, running Apple. He was. He absolutely was. Yeah. You know, maybe this boils down to, and this is an old, old message. Don't make kids sit still and be quiet and all act the same because they're not the same. There's a cynical view of education, that modern education exists purely to turn people into rule following drones. And you know, I certainly hope that's. I know a lot of gifted teachers and that's not what they're trying to do. But just to what, to whatever extent that's what's happening. Resist that. Ugh.

[Katie]

Yeah. A big yuck.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. We need more kids who end up smoking and getting arrested because the other ones will be Winston Churchill. I think that's our takeaway here. What? Something like that?

[Katie]

Nailed it.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Katie]

You wouldn't catch me dead in an EPA sweatshirt.

[Unknown Speaker]

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[Joe Getty]

I was going to say how many. How many agency. Government agencies have swag? I know the CIA and FBI do.

[Unknown Speaker]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Katie]

You turn on the fake lights on your car too. So you can really.

[Unknown Speaker]

Who are you? I'll ask the questions. You open the trunk.

[Joe Getty]

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[Unknown Speaker]

So this. I hope this. I hope this works, what I'm about to do here. I came across this last night, and I laughed out loud several times. So it's a guy with a kind of funny laugh. And this is pretty long. He's speaking a different language. I don't even know what language it is, but I don't speak it. But it was still funny. And I could pick up on the universal cadence of telling a story. And then he starts laughing about the story and then filling in more details and continues to laugh. And the other guy's laughing, and it just. And then, like, you know, then you won't believe this. And then they. I guess that's what he's saying. I don't know. I don't speak the language. But if this is funny to you the way it was to me, I think it says something about humor or. Because I've often thought people that are really, really funny, they don't. They don't even need words. Their timing is so good. The joke doesn't even have to. Have to be a joke. The timing is so perfect. It's funny just with the timing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah, I suppose.

[Unknown Speaker]

Anyway, we'll see if this is funny or not. You're not supposed to understand what this person is saying. He's telling the story. Crank it up good and loud, Michael, so we can hear.

[Joe Getty]

Ir. Dude is amused.

[Unknown Speaker]

I think. First of all, I would like to have somebody translate that story to me, because I just feel like at some point it was like. And then. No, you won't believe this. Then she walks in with a canary on her head. No, wait, I'm not done yet.

[Joe Getty]

Her husband turns around and he says.

[Unknown Speaker]

But then the dog comes into the room and. Hold on, I'm not done.

[Joe Getty]

I just hope the translation of that story isn't. They were complaining about how loud my party was, so I went to their home and murdered them all.

[Unknown Speaker]

Or it's incredibly. Yeah, it's incredibly graphic sexually or something. I mean, just like a racist or something.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

For the record, we got no idea what Bro is saying in that crazy story.

[Unknown Speaker]

Maybe you should have run this by somebody who speaks whatever language that is.

[Katie]

Before mapping this out now.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Because this could be the most racist, sexist, overtly horrifying joke you've ever heard in your life.

[Katie]

And then the Nazis.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, don't even say it.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

Boy. Dude's laugh was just insane.

[Unknown Speaker]

Wait, wait, wait. You thought that was it? No, that's not the end of it. It sounds like it must have been a heck of a joke.

[Katie]

I think his laugh might have been what was making you laugh because it just. Just his laugh itself was. Was funny.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, I would. Clearly the infectious laugh had something to do with it.

[Unknown Speaker]

I would like to have the slightest ide the story was about because it's got many tags and just when you think it's over, it's not.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Then her husband. Her husband says, no, seriously, this is what he said, right? Yeah. I wonder, can we run that through Google Translate, figure out what sort of horror we've unleashed.

[Unknown Speaker]

He opened the closet and his mom is standing there and she says it just keeps going and going.

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