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Jack Armstrong
broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
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Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. In a moment or two, we need to get to the desanctification of Cesar Chavez and the shocking allegations against that famous Hispanic labor leader. But first, the curator of the National Gallery of Art describing a beautiful and an important art painting using only Gen Z slang.
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Jack Armstrong
This painting, Cape Cod Evening by Edward Hopper has me literally screaming, crying, throwing up the couple. They're in a swag gap relationship. Absolutely. Speed running divorce Mama has the ick so bad she looks like she's about to legit unalive her husband. Meanwhile, team Urian Gosling is trying so hard to get that dog's attention, but the collie is locked the f in on whatever's going down in the distance. The aura is low key sinister. What does it mean? The artist is insane. Hopper could have been the CEO of Vague Posting. That's really good.
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Joe Getty
That really is.
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Jack Armstrong
I love me some Edward Hopper though. I've gone to a lot of museums just to see his stuff. Amazing Hopper.
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Joe Getty
I didn't even kiss him. I don't, I don't know from. I'm not much, you know, I don't know our histories.
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Jack Armstrong
You know Edward Hopper because his most famous painting is freaking everywhere. That's the, the people sitting at the diner. Three people sitting at a late night diner. That's his most famous painting, but lots of stuff like that.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Okay, great. On a much more serious note, this is, this is relevant really for everyone, but especially Cal Unicornians where Cesar Chavez is held as A quasi saint as a hero on the level of Washington, Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr.
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Jack Armstrong
Well,
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Joe Getty
he is about to be decommissioned and canceled completely.
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Jack Armstrong
The Brown MLK I heard him described as.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, indeed, yeah. Holidays. How many schools are there named after that? Might be worth a quick AI search, Katie or Google or something.
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Jack Armstrong
In California, it feels like every town's got at least one Cesar Chavez middle school or high school or whatever. Certainly a road or a park or a statue and a holiday.
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Joe Getty
Hundreds and hundreds in fact, as we outlined earlier. And we'll get to the point in a second. The state universities of California don't celebrate Washington or Lincoln's birthday birthdays, but they do Cesar Chavez I will just read this to you. Anna Marguia remembers the day the man she had regarded as a hero called her house and summoned her to see him. She walked along her dirt trail, entered the rundown building, past secretary and stepped into his office. He locked the door as he always did when he called her and told her how lonely he had been. He brought her onto the yoga mat that he often used in his office for meditation, kissed her and pulled her pants down. Don't tell anyone, he told her afterward. They'd get jealous. That man, Cesar Chavez, was one of the most revered figures in the Latino civil rights movement. He was 45. She was 13.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, wow.
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Joe Getty
Ms. Ms. Merguia said she was summoned for sexual encounters with him dozens of times over the next four years.
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Jack Armstrong
He doesn't need to have done this to anybody else, but are there others claiming the same?
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Joe Getty
Mrs. Merguia and another woman, Deborah Rojas, say that Mr. Chavez sexually abused them for years when they were Girls, from around 1972-77. He was in his 40s and become a powerful charismatic figure who captured global attention as the champion of farm worker rights. The two women have not shared their stories publicly before, and an investigation by the New York Times has uncovered extensive evidence to support their accusations and those raised by several other women against Mr. Chavez, who died in 1993 at the age of 66.
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Jack Armstrong
I assumed there would be other women. I just didn't know if any of them had come forward or not because not the sort of thing you tend to do once, I think when you're that sort of creepo. Well, 13 and you're 45. That is freaking awful.
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Joe Getty
This woman says she was so traumatized that she attempted to end her life multiple times by the age of 15.
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Jack Armstrong
How's this just coming out now?
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Joe Getty
One aspect of this, and I haven't read the entire thing it is a. It's a. It's a half a book.
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Jack Armstrong
Good on the New York Times for, you know, putting this out there. They took on a hero of the left and are gonna destroy him with this. But good journalism.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Wow. They have pictures of these very young women, these girls with Cesar Chavez. One of the gals I know I read somewhere found out that they were about to. She lives in the Bakersfield, California area and found out that they were about to name a street in his honor. Oh. And it doesn't take it. I can't find that passage. Recently, she learned that a street near home in the central city of Bakersfield was in the process of being renamed. City officials wanted to name it in honor of her abuser. It doesn't spell out that that's why she came forward. Could be. I don't know. The findings are based on interviews with more than 60 people, including his top aides at the time, his relatives, and former members of the ufw.
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Jack Armstrong
Did these people know about it? Did his former aides?
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Joe Getty
And the accounts of abuse from the two women were independently verified through interviews with those they confided in decades ago and in more recent years. Elements of their stories were also corroborated in documents, emails, itine, and other writings from union organizer organizers. You know that it's not proof, exactly, but, yeah, if contemporaneously, at the time, they're saying Cesar Chavez pulled my pants down and had sex with me and I didn't want to. And they're still saying it decades later. I believe them.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, that's an interesting one. Will they actually take his name off the middle school in your town?
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Well, that's the long and short of it. The details are disturbing, obviously.
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Jack Armstrong
And then just the whole flaws of men who are other men or women who are otherwise very successful in other areas. I mean, like, really, really deep flaws, obviously.
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Joe Getty
Wow, this is interesting. They spoke at length with Dolores Huerta, the renowned Latina activist who helped run the Farmwork Workers union. A lot of people think she should be the Saint Anyway, with Mr. Chavez and coined the social justice rallying cry sise puede, loosely translated as yes, we can. She said she held on to a dark secret for nearly 60 one night during the winter of 1966 in Delano, California. She said Mr. Chavez drove her, Dolores Huerta, out to a secluded grapefield, parked, and raped her inside the vehicle.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, my God.
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Joe Getty
She said she chose not to report the assault to the police because of their hostility toward the movement. And she Feared that no one within the union would believe her. She also described an earlier encounter where she felt pressured to have sex with him in a hotel room. Blah blah, blah.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that would be a tough position to be in. You would recognize he's actually accomplishing something historic for our cause that I have dedicated my life to. I'll just keep my mouth shut about this awful thing so that that doesn't get derailed.
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Joe Getty
That's precisely correct. Yeah. As the New York Times writes it, she framed her silence at the time not as an absence of pain, but as a kind of strategic necessity, Particularly as a woman fighting for respect in the male dominated world of 1960s union organizing.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, we all know what the, you know, you watched Man Med or watch the Kennedys back in the day or whatever the culture at the time period. And it's more so in the Hispanic culture.
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Joe Getty
Forcing yourself on a woman is something you can get away with. Yes.
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Jack Armstrong
That is wild.
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Joe Getty
So, and MLK Jr. If those tapes come out when they're supposed to, is it this year?
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Jack Armstrong
Next year? Next year, yeah. 27. I think
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Joe Getty
I'm harshly anti presentism.
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Jack Armstrong
Raping a 13 year old is not presentism, though.
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Joe Getty
No, I don't think it is.
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Jack Armstrong
No.
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Joe Getty
Is non consensual sexual activity rape? Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
That's a tough one because then you get into the he said, she said. If you have a whole bunch of people claiming it, then I suppose you could definitely come to the conclusion that they were raping people.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, I'm just. And listen, I'm. I'm also even more harshly against any violence toward women, especially sexual violence. I'm just thinking about the various changes in attitudes. I mean, because if you certainly would never excuse slavery, but when slavery was everywhere on the planet in the 1700s. I mean everywhere. I've got all sorts of interesting information about that. If you like it. You almost have to say, well, slavery is repugnant. But it was accepted at the time. And he wrote the Declaration of Independence, for instance. Or George Washington, the greatest man in the history of the world according to George third because he willingly gave up power, blah blah, blah. Do you. I mean, what could be worse than enslaving people? And yet, if you're going to be fair about it and not an ego, I've got a perfect expression. But it's obscene. Someone who is merely stroking their own ego by implying I'm a better and more honorable person than George Washington, which is what people are doing when they engage in presentism. They're trying to tell you they are a better person than the heroes of humanity. As I think it was Bill Mauru who unleashed a great screed saying, you're not better than them, you just came after them. Yeah. Anyway, so. But where do you draw that line? I mean, if somebody getting a little handsy or. I told him no, but he went ahead, was accepted in a society. Where do you draw that line? What. What gets somebody canceled and what doesn't? I don't know. It's an interesting question, though.
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Jack Armstrong
Not suggesting raping 13 year olds is getting a little hands.
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Joe Getty
Oh, no, not at all. I'm just using some of the expressions of the time. There are quotes around there. This is audio, so perhaps you didn't see them. That's a heck of an excusing it. Just asking the question.
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Jack Armstrong
Because he did. He still accomplished the same things.
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Joe Getty
Right. But seemed to be a serial rapist.
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Jack Armstrong
That's a heck of an interesting situation.
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Joe Getty
Oh, it's horrible. Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
If you cured all cancer. This is the example I used earlier. Some guy cures all cancer and then you turn out he was this sort of person.
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Joe Getty
No, he's like the Green river killer. Serial rapist and murderer of women. Or like that Golgo beach or whatever that. That monster on Long Island.
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Jack Armstrong
But there's. There's no. There's no cancer center named after you. There's no science prize named after you. There's no nothing. Even though you cured all cancer.
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Joe Getty
No, no, I go. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna pay tribute by getting the treatment. But no, no building
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Jack Armstrong
science prize.
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Joe Getty
I don't think you can do that.
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Jack Armstrong
I don't think you can either.
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Joe Getty
So let's. Is California going to rename all those schools the Dolores Huerta Middle School, perhaps? That would be a quick and easy solution. Everybody would sign on to that.
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Jack Armstrong
I'd be on board if you're gonna, you know, stay with the same theme.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
What? In a development in the year 2027.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. I'll be damned. What a horrible human being.
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Jack Armstrong
That aspect of his life, obviously. Did his wife know about it? His kids?
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Joe Getty
No idea.
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Joe Getty
He was given the Presidential Medal of Freedom, by the way.
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Jack Armstrong
Of course he was.
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Joe Getty
By Joe Biden. Bad. A Kev Care.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, he died in 93, so.
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Joe Getty
Joe Biden.
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Jack Armstrong
When Joe Biden was a senator, posthumously. Okay, okay.
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Joe Getty
No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He got the honor in 1994, I think. Posthumously, anyway. But when Biden entered the White House, he put a bronze bust of the rapist on display in the Oval office. Of course he didn't know he was a rapist at the time in his senile defense.
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Jack Armstrong
Or you could have told him when he would have forgotten it that afternoon.
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Joe Getty
Of course he didn't know where he was either. Exactly.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Wonder what his doctor wife thinks of this. I don't know why I had to take a shot at her. There you go.
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Joe Getty
Not a real doctor.
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Jack Armstrong
You made it work there Michael with the CCPAD wake, which is one of the funniest things she ever said. What do you think of all this? Text line 415295 KFTC ARMSTRONG and GETTY
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Jack Armstrong
I have just hit 100 million. $100 million. But in Florida, a Republican candidate for governor wants to bring what he calls
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Now a political target. OnlyFans women are speaking out. Before you want to tax thousands of women just because we actually took this into our own hands, start taxing the companies that are flooding into here. A Florida politician trying to start beef with me for clout, a sin tax and what was it? 20%?
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Joe Getty
50.
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Jack Armstrong
50%?
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Joe Getty
Yeah, it's ridiculous. That guy is. He's like this young populist fire brand who has all sorts of wild ideas.
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Jack Armstrong
Won't get any on the women or the companies.
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Joe Getty
It sounded like the women.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's what it sounded like to me too is you're going to punish the women. The company's making tons of money, right?
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Joe Getty
And all the male pornographers through the years who exploited women, they got away. It's just an idiotic idea.
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Jack Armstrong
Different states views on morality and whether or not it's legislated is interesting. If you saw this over the weekend Kirsten Sinema, former senator from Arizona she of the thigh high boots and bisexuality because she was having an affair it turns out with her bodyguard and she lives and he lives in a state. It caused him to have a divorce. He lives in a state where there are home wrecker laws and so she had to testify to the five times they had sex in five different locations and explained the whole thing in court papers because they have laws about that. Whereas in like you know, California anybody could do anything and you know, nobody. There's no crime there. It's just between you and your wife or you and your husband or whatever. But in a place like North Carolina it's a. You're a home record. I lean. I don't know. I have two minds of this thing. It's a very, very big deal a marriage and has a huge effect on society and the individuals involved. And the fact that you can just violate that and there's no penalty whatsoever seems crazy to me. On the other hand, I don't like the government being involved in these sorts of things. So I don't know what I think about this but she, she violated some home wrecker law, blew up their family. They got kids and everything and it's interesting.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. So he's gonna get hammered in the divorce. So he wouldn't in a no fault state.
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Jack Armstrong
Okay, well nothing would happen in no fault site for better or worse. I don't know what you all think of this but she actually had to testify like to the five times they had sex and where.
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Joe Getty
How specific did she get and are the tapes available?
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Jack Armstrong
Isn't that something though? Yeah. What an embarrassing situation to end up in. You know it's between two individuals.
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Joe Getty
Tell us about the AX Ms. Cinema. How did they begin? For instance, was there, I don't know, kissing?
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Jack Armstrong
Did you ever say anything to him in his ear during the. The court should be aware of there's
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Israel assassinated Ali Larajani, considered the top security official in Iran, they now say they have killed Iran's intelligence minister Ismail Khatib. Now, we haven't heard any confirmation or any statement about it from the Iranians, but given Israel's track record so far in the first two and a half weeks of this war, it seems very possible that Israel has assassinated another top Iranian leader and clearly stating the intent to continue working their way down the list. In fact, Israel's Defense minister said they have streamlined the process to carry out these targeted killings, not requiring approval for each name on the list. That's interesting.
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Joe Getty
When they snuffed Ali Larajani, who ran Iran for about a day and a half apparently. It's funny, the New York Times had a feature what to know about Lara and Johnny. And I'm thinking I don't need to know anything about him. And in fact, the guy who's supposedly taken over his brother, I guess maybe what to know about him. I'm like, I'm not gonna bother memorizing this.
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Jack Armstrong
Where to send flowers if I care enough, right?
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Joe Getty
In lieu of flowers, send donation to the, you know, Beard Groomers of Iran society. I don't know.
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Jack Armstrong
The Beard Groomers of Iran.
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Joe Getty
I don't know it. Closeted Gay Mullahs of Iran Association.
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Jack Armstrong
I don't know.
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Joe Getty
That's a different guy.
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Jack Armstrong
But anyway, the New York Post, who feels they need to have wordplay in all their headlines, has clerical temp work and a picture of all the people that have been clerics and temporary, temporarily in charge over the last couple of weeks. And then an X through them like, this guy died, this guy died, this guy died.
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Joe Getty
Right.
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Jack Armstrong
This latest one is a pretty big deal. You know, actually Mike Lyons, who we had on earlier, said this might be the tipping point because this Ari Lara Johnny was among the last big deals alive. So part of it is their. We were talking about this earlier. So Israel obviously thinks it matters. These people that are in charge of these various things, to kill them and make the next person step up. But so you not only have the, you know, maybe the person in charge is actually just better at it. The reason they were in charge is they were really, really good at it, and the next person won't be as good at it. So you've got that. But also the. They got. They've got to have a Game of Thrones style. Who's in charge, I'm in charge thing going on at some level in Iran right now because somebody's wanting to be the head of the country, wanting to be the. I'm the military dictator that's gonna take over, establish control, make a deal with Trump, and I'm gonna be the king of this here country. There's gotta be a bunch of people that feel that way. Well, you start eliminating the people that had consolidated some power and had friends and have. Have, you know, enough oomph behind them to actually do that, they start dying. I think that's the bigger deal, because who's going to try to consolidate power? You haven't consolidated power. You're like third in command. You got nobody with you all these years.
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Joe Getty
I think that one of the challenges is that the Republican Guard has culture, what I would call cultural coherence. Their. They're ruled as much by agreement as kind of that raw Game of Thrones power. The remaining guys in the IRGC are really intent on keeping it together. I can't even imagine, though, what that's like. Obviously, we're both guessing, what is it like on the ground, where. And I don't know how their ranks work over there, but you. You figured out that two thirds of the generals are dead and, you know, a handful of lieutenants are dead as well. And now I'm a captain. What do I do? Am I in command over here?
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Jack Armstrong
What's happening? The actual Supreme Leader, the weird beard son, probably gay and injured, has not been seen in public at all since the strike that killed his father, his wife and his kid. And the reporting was yesterday. It was just accidental, that he didn't die. He should have died. He stepped outside to take a call or a smoke. I forget what I read yesterday. He, like, he went. He went down the stairs. He was headed outside for something. He had to like, dude,
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Joe Getty
Not that there's anything wrong with it.
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Jack Armstrong
He was taking a kiss break. Yes, that was.
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Joe Getty
That was outed. That was inappropriate. It was idiotic and I apologize, and it was funny.
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Jack Armstrong
But he was headed to his car, something I read yesterday, and he just happened to be in the stairwell and all the rest of them died. And he survived, lost a leg and maybe an eye, but he's still alive, so they're kind of surprised.
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Joe Getty
He was still his Beard clean off. Right.
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Jack Armstrong
So you got that weirdness.
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Joe Getty
Sorry. Oh boy.
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Jack Armstrong
And he hasn't raised his head at all. You know, there was a report briefly last week that he was in a coma, which I think was probably a psyops to get him to post something with the idea that if he posts anything we're going to figure out where he is. Who knows? Things are still damned ugly inside Iran though, as this report from CNN will.
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Jack Armstrong
Every time you go outside, even just
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Joe Getty
to go to the market, you see
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Jack Armstrong
machine guns and dushkas, heavy guns on the streets. Everyone is afraid of the checkpoints. They are basically the regime's street level enforcers. People are randomly being checked, their phones
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Joe Getty
being searched, being asked questions like what
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Joe Getty
They even arrest and take them for a further investigation.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, so they're still patrolling the streets and looking for anybody who's going to try to get a protest going. Here's one Iranian man, he was doing this interview in a dark room with a mask on and his voice disguised.
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Joe Getty
I don't know what will happen and what is waiting for us. People are only following the news and the atmosphere that currently exists among people is a very exhausting one. 1. It's an atmosphere filled with fear and terror. But hope is very prevalent among many young people.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, we keep talking about what's it like for all the leadership and their ability to communicate and wonder what's going to happen next and who's in charge. How about just your average Iranian citizen who hates the government. Always hates the government. Has their own personal story from family members of, you know, they, they're nothing they'd like more than to kill everybody in the government.
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Joe Getty
It.
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Jack Armstrong
But you can't come out of your house, you can't communicate with each other, you can't talk about it out loud, you can't get any information from the outside, from the, the Internet's closed down. I wonder what it's like for them.
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Joe Getty
I don't know. It's got to be terrible because they're desperate for freedom of some sort, but terrified. I mean the bloodletting by the regime, remember it dwarfed Tianmen Square.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah.
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Joe Getty
It made Tianmen Square look like nothing. The slaughter in the streets of Iran. It was a Syria level.
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Jack Armstrong
It's one of the all time put down of your own people demonstrations in world history, modern world history certainly. Yeah, she got all that. That's very, very Interesting.
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Joe Getty
Then you got the Free Beacon headline. Thanks, Katie, for sending this along. Supremely progressive Iran becomes first nation in the world history led by a gay amputee
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Jack Armstrong
making history.
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Joe Getty
Got him sitting there in a wheelchair wearing a rainbow scarf. That's funny. The rest of it's not.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. What a situation. Where is this going? So you got that guy, Joe Kent, was that his name that resigned yesterday? He was the director of the counterterrorism center saying Iran's not a threat.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Tucker is lauding him as a hero and the bravest man he knows and blah, blah, blah. The rest of the world's saying this guy's wrong about everything. He's a crackpot. Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
So I was just reading Mark Halperin's piece about how the, I was going to call it the war room. That goes back to the Clinton days where they had a media war room to take on any stories so they could squash them really fast or get their version out really, really fast. During war, you probably shouldn't have something called a war room unless it's dealing with the war. But so their media response room there at the Trump people. And I don't know if they knew this guy was going to go rogue or something like that, but they, they, they flooded social media with bad true stuff about this joke guy. So I do think it kind of squashed the story throughout the day because as, as they got out, look, he, he, he called the January 6th protesters political prisoners. Okay? He's one of those guys. So, hey, msnbc, don't get too excited about this dude. And, you know, all kinds of things, crazy things he's said and done throughout his life. So they are able to keep that quiet. And according to Mark Halpern, it was also a message to, hey, anybody else who wants to make a big noise about how anti war you are inside the administration, this is the way we will come after you. So I don't know, we'll see if that works or not. He does seem to be a nut. Trump appointed yet another nut. He's appointed several nuts. He appointed another nut to get that crowd, you know, on his side, inside the tent. And, you know, he paid a very minor price for it when the nut revealed himself to be a nut. And that Joe Kent person, as Joe just said, is going to be on Tucker today and Tucker's going to give him three hours to explain his nonsense. Yeah, millions and millions of views, I guarantee.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, we got, we received a number of emails from Washington staters, Jim from Vancouver. Joe Kent was a retired War hero, lived in my district, ran for Rep a few years ago.
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Jack Armstrong
Absolutely a war hero.
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Joe Getty
Support from Trump at the time lost to a liberal Democrat. Sadly, Kent has changed over the last year and I'm not sure what caused the change. Then this from Terry. Joe Kent is from Vancouver where he ran from Congress a few times and lost. He is very hardcore. Right. I'm a strong Republican. Even I was a little turned off by some of the things he said. However, I would have voted for him in a second over the Democrat, but I definitely can see him as part of the Tucker Carlson crowd. And then this from well, his theme
- [38:28]
Jack Armstrong
with his resignation is that we're dancing to the tune of Israel. Israel Nir lobby was powerful enough to get the United States to go to war because Israel wanted to. That's what he and Tucker are going to bond over today.
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Joe Getty
Let's see. And then this from we'll call him Jim ran for a seat in eastern Washington, but he was too effing gung ho maga. And the Democratic candidate of course, appeared moderate, too dumb to appear moderate to the general. Don't get me started on this guy. He's such a blanking empty shell of I'll say whatever it takes to get MAGA votes. And now he sees the right is turning. He was all over Tucker's show when he was running for office, which is probably why he lost. Okay, thanks for that note.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's, I'll watch part of that Tucker episode today. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
See his whole, you know, I could quote who is this Eli Lake who wrote a great piece in the Free Press about this guy and his beliefs. And he points out, you know, after he resigned, Trump told reporters, I always thought he was a nice guy, but I always thought he was a weak on security. Very weak on security. When I read his statement, I realized that it's a good thing he's out because he said Iran was not a threat. Every country recognized Iran was a threat. And Eli points out, this of course raises the question of why Kent was hired in the first place.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, you always thought he was weak on security. I think I'll put him in charge of the Counter Terrorism Center.
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Joe Getty
If anything, Trump's remarks understated the flaws in Kent's perspective. His resignation letter reads like a comment on a Nick Fuente's live stream or a column in an Iranian state run newspaper. He writes that, quote, high ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media deployed a misinformation campaign to deceive Trump into the war. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation. And it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. It goes on. He writes at one point that his first wife, Shannon Kent, an Army cryptographer, died in a war manufactured by Israel. She died in a suicide bombing near a US base in Syria, part of a deployment first authorized by Obama, who's no close friend of Israel in the war against ISIS. If Kent was referring to the 03 Iraq war, he is asserting that a war authorized by a bipartisan vote in Congress, which Israel's prime minister at the time counseled against, was somehow caused by Israel. And that is very well documented. Israel did not like the Iraq war. They told Bush, don't do that. Iran's the threat in the region, not Iraq. And then Eli writes, never mind the tired anti Semitic trope that posits that Jews exercise secret control over government, banks and the media. The claim demonstrates a blinkered view of recent history and foreign policymaking. And it goes on. But that's, that's probably enough of that.
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Jack Armstrong
Where's the one legged gay mullah supreme leader? Where is he hiding underground somewhere?
- [41:32]
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, literally underground. If there's an underground parking garage under some mall in Tehran, he's at the bottom level. And it's surprising, a pillar quivering.
- [41:43]
Jack Armstrong
And based on the story in the Wall Street Journal today, it's surprised Israel doesn't know because they talk about these various people they've chased east to. I mean they had a plan, these, these, these high ranking Iranian officials, albeit in a tent out in the desert. If the S ever goes down and Israel knew that and killed him. One guy who went and hid in a sports stadium, which is a pretty clever idea. Who would ever think of that? And they blasted him. They knew this. How did Israel know all this? Or we knew all this Combination.
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Joe Getty
They've got a zillion informers apparently. Hey, Hey, I just saw, you know, Mahmoud, Mahmoud of Itch. He's now the guy running the, the Basij. He just walked down the street. He's on at 4th and Elm right now. Kurt Bluey, 4th now, for instance.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, we got some responses to the, the story that we're about to cancel Cesar Chavez as a country. He's canceled, he's done. Take him off your kids middle school, among other things. We got responses to that. We'll get to that at some point. Lots of stuff on the ways to
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Joe Getty
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What's the line for they give 25 bucks. What the man describes is illegal paying people to sign a petition for a ballot measure.
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Joe Getty
Would you have to have your id? I'm not sure.
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Jack Armstrong
Homeless and others lined up last week in San Francisco apparently to collect $5 to sign a petition to qualify two initiatives for the November ballot. One to fight a tax on billionaires, the other on pension reform. I'll get $5 soon.
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Jack Armstrong
And what is it? Just honest. Not only that, she appears to want them to impersonate another voter, in this case an 81 year old woman who lives more than 200 miles away.
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Last name?
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Jack Armstrong
This is the address right here.
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Yes.
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Yeah, so the people sponsoring those are saying those were contractors and we don't approve of what they were doing.
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Jack Armstrong
You have to memorize the name and have the address to try to get five bucks.
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Joe Getty
No, you don't memorize it. It's right there in front of you so you just fill out the form and sign it.
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Jack Armstrong
You're playing on a certain sort of crowd if you're making them do anything for $5 with what $5 is actually worth in the modern economy.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, the actual act, because they showed it took about 60 seconds, which is an hourly rate, is pretty good, but you have to include waiting in line. But yeah, absolute voter fraud in California to sign those petitions.
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Jack Armstrong
But the one was to fight the billionaire tax. I mean it's not good either way. Even if it's. If, even if they're getting a petition going for the cause. I agree with. I don't like the idea of paying people to sign these petitions if it's illegal.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, what are. But where's the money coming from? And how much are you getting paid together signatures? If you can pay $5 a throw, there's a lot of money sloshing around there and a lot of corruption.
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Jack Armstrong
Darn right there is.
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Joe Getty
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
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Jack Armstrong
Don't end up in a situation where you'd wait in line for, you know, a long time to sign a petition for five bucks.
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Joe Getty
You got to take a look at your life.
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You do when five bucks will barely get you a cup of coffee in
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