The Best Weekend Talks Show in America Hour Two

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: The Best Weekend Talk Show in America Hour Two
Date: May 16, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This dynamic hour of Armstrong & Getty's weekend best-of show delivers sharp, irreverent, and thoughtful commentary on the biggest news stories of the week. Topics include the ongoing war in Iran and the policy maneuvers of the Trump administration, insider oil trading investigations, the controversy over prisoner privileges in California, economic debates on billionaire wealth, high-profile legal shakeups, advances in medical science, and much more. The duo blend insightful analysis with wry humor, keeping listeners engaged and informed.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. War in Iran & Trump’s Foreign Policy

• Trump’s Approach & Oval Office Comments
  The hosts replay Trump’s statements during a press event, dissecting his “unique” and “rambling” rhetorical style as he discusses moderates and “lunatics” in Iran, his aversion to them getting nuclear weapons, and his willingness to “take a bullet for the country.”
  • “You have the moderates and you have the lunatics. And I think the moderates are more respected. The lunatics want to fight till the end…” – Trump (04:05)
  • “You’re crazy people. You’re nuts. You’re not having a nuclear weapon. They would use it within an hour after getting it.” – Trump (05:44)
  • Armstrong & Getty note how Trump uses blunt language, shores up his “resolute” stance on Iran, and holds loosely structured but revealing Q&A sessions (04:47–07:16).
• Analysis of the Iran Negotiations
  The hosts lampoon the absurdity and lack of progress in U.S.–Iran dealings:
  • “[It] sounds like a parody of negotiation.” – Joe Getty (07:43)
  • Example given: “Well, I'd like to buy your car for $1. I'm not selling my car for a dollar. Negotiations are ongoing.” – Jack Armstrong (08:10)

2. Insider Trading & Suspicious Oil Trades

• ABC News Report & Investigation The hosts discuss revelations about a $2.6 billion Justice Department investigation into suspiciously timed oil trades preceding major Trump administration announcements on Iran:
  • “This is not like all the nuclear scientists have disappeared… These people are actual psychics or getting inside information, obviously.” – Joe Getty (10:31)
  • ABC provides cases of massive, last-minute bets before public news—like $500 million in bets 15 minutes before a presidential postponement—always coinciding with market drops (09:34–10:12).
  • Armstrong & Getty stress the unlikelihood this is mere luck or trend analysis, pointing to apparent leaks of classified information.
    • “That is 100%. Somebody got the heads up.” – Jack Armstrong (11:24)
• Ethics of Insider/Secondhand Trading The pair debate what counts as insider trading vs. “lucky eavesdropping”:
  • “I don't think there's any such thing as secondhand insider trading because you are not, you know, they did not intentionally share that information with you for the purpose of trading. You just heard it.” – Joe Getty (13:52)

3. California Prisons & Digital Privileges

• Christopher Rufo’s Report: Tablets for Inmates
  Newsom’s $189 million program giving new tablets to all California prisoners becomes a target for Armstrong & Getty’s incredulity:
  • “Justice impacted individuals… This is a Orwellian masterpiece.” – Joe Getty (21:20)
  • “In theory, this is hilarious… they’re using these things to look at porn. Course they are. You’re a dude locked in a cell all day long with wi-fi and a tablet, what do you think you’re supposed to do?” – Jack Armstrong (21:32)
• Taxpayer & Security Concerns The hosts point out cost excesses, easy circumvention of official content filters, and highlight lurid case studies (including a notorious killer) to exemplify the moral hazards.
  • “The administration heralded the effort… as a step toward digital equity.” – Jack Armstrong (21:04)

4. Attitudes Towards Artificial Intelligence

• College Graduates Booing AI
  A Central Florida University commencement speaker mentions AI, drawing boos:
  • Armstrong is surprised at tech-skeptic youth: “I just assumed like every new technological thing… young people love it, dig it. And she mentions AI and everybody boos.” – Jack Armstrong (28:52)
  • Getty notes anxiety over job security may drive this attitude.

5. The Billionaire Debate & Robert Reich’s List

• Robert Reich’s Controversial Claim
  Reich asserts there are only five ways to become a billionaire and excludes entrepreneurship, citing monopoly, insider trading, political payoffs, fraud, or inheritance.
  • “That is bizarre and utterly unsquarable with the facts.” – Joe Getty (31:16)
  • Armstrong fires back with statistics on self-made billionaires, naming examples like Taylor Swift and Jay-Z, and challenges the “politics of envy” in class warfare arguments.
  • “For most of our history, we admired those who came up with great ideas and became wealthy.” – Joe Getty (33:45)

6. Billionaires, Politics & Scandals

• Eric Swalwell & Stephen Klubeck
  The infamous relationship between Rep. Eric Swalwell and billionaire donor Stephen Klubeck resurfaces, with Klubeck now embroiled in his own legal troubles (attempting to dissuade a witness related to his fiancé’s alleged fraud):
  • “He was desperately trying to defend his Penthouse Pet fiancée, who was a serial bilker of old rich guys.” – Joe Getty (35:03)
  • “How did a guy that dopey become a billionaire? Wow. Robert Reich, explain that one.” – Jack Armstrong (37:09)

7. Legal System & The Alex Murdaugh Overturn

• Murdaugh Murder Conviction Overturned They cover South Carolina’s supreme court overturning the shocking Murdaugh case verdict due to jury interference:
  • “There wasn't anybody that thought he wasn't guilty.” – Jack Armstrong (38:54)
  • “He will remain in prison because he had also pleaded guilty to various charges related to stealing millions... they’ll just put the case together and assemble another jury and do it again.” – Joe Getty (39:33)

8. Medical Science: Discovery of the Interstitium

• New Findings Bridge Western & Eastern Medicine
  Joe Getty shares news on the discovery of the “interstitium,” a network of fluid-filled spaces throughout the body—a system acupuncture practitioners have claimed for centuries.
  • “The idea of a third circulatory system will not come as any surprise to anyone who practices traditional Chinese medicine.” – Joe Getty (46:11)
  • They connect this to possible scientific explanations for acupuncture’s effectiveness, but also express skepticism toward broader alternative medicine claims:
    • “Anytime you get into the Eastern medicine thing, it comes with a bunch of… really annoying crap they’re going to tell you about.” – Jack Armstrong (48:36)
    • “It reminds me of chiropractic a little bit… if you concede, okay, it does help back problems in a lot of cases. You’ve kind of walked in the door of, it can cure acne, earaches…” – Joe Getty (48:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Policy & Negotiations

  • “Negotiations are ongoing.” – Jack Armstrong (08:10)
  • “You lying commie.” – Joe Getty on Robert Reich’s economic claims (33:04)

• On Tech Skepticism

  • “Is that the consensus feeling of young people?” – Jack Armstrong, on AI backlash (28:32)

• On California Prison Spending

  • “I don't give my kids the newest, coolest one. If that one you’ve got from several years ago still works, keep using it… Wouldn’t want prisoners to have committed crimes against society to have to use an old tablet.” – Jack Armstrong (20:41)

• On the Murdaugh Case

  • “So this scumbag who murdered his wife and shotgun his son to death… is he gonna walk out?” – Jack Armstrong (39:24)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Opening & Trump on Iran: 03:17–07:16
• Insider Trading & Oil Markets: 08:33–12:34
• Debate on Secondhand Insider Trading: 13:06–14:33
• Prisoner Tablets Controversy: 19:18–24:08
• AI Booed at Graduation: 27:51–29:40
• Robert Reich & Billionaire Wealth Discussion: 29:41–33:45
• Swalwell, Klubeck, and Rich Donors: 33:48–37:22
• Alex Murdaugh Verdict Overturned: 37:22–40:58
• Medical Discovery: The Interstitium & Acupuncture: 44:17–48:54

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Episode Tone & Style

Armstrong & Getty employ their characteristic sardonic, conversational dialogue—mixing whistleblower skepticism with well-researched references and a dose of self-deprecating humor. They rapidly pivot between headlines, cultural critique, and personal anecdotes, making complex issues accessible while provoking the audience to question official narratives.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a showcase of Armstrong & Getty’s fearless, humorous, and sometimes biting commentary on the week's major stories—ideal for anyone looking to catch up on current events with critical, entertaining analysis.

Transcript

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center,

[Joe Getty]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

You've tuned in to the best weekend talk show in America. Hey, there we are, Armstrong and Getty. Man. We had a busy week of doing 20 hours of live radio. We talked about the war in Iran, of course, the Trump XI summit, of course, and a lot of other news of the day. And you're going to hear the best stuff. We did. We do 20 hours every week. If you like this and you want more, you can find our podcast. It's Armstrong and Getty on demand. Look for Armstrong and Getty on demand. Hope you enjoy the best weekend talk show in America.

[Trump (quoted)]

You have the moderates and you have the lunatics. And I think the moderates are more respected. The lunatics want to fight till the end. You know, there will be a very, it will be a very quick fight. But I call them, you have, just like our country, we have lunatics too. We have, I call them lunatics. I call them stupid people, too. But in Iran, they have the moderates. They're dying to make a deal. And then you have the lunatics. And I guess they're a little bit afraid of the lunatics, but. And why not? The, the level of ferocity for protests, you know, the people are watching it. They want to go out on the streets. They have no weapons. They have no guns.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump has such a unique speaking style,

[Joe Getty]

the sometimes known as rambling.

[Jack Armstrong]

But they are, yeah, they are lunatics and they are very, very violent lunatics. Anyway, Trump, and this is all just in the last few minutes, Trump's taking questions in the Oval Office. He does this all the time. So he's got a bunch of Women standing around behind him. And it's probably like, you know, national women at work day or something like that. And they come into the office and he signs some declaration. Then he takes questions from reporters and they got to stand there with smiles on his, on their faces while he takes all kinds of complicated questions and says, crazy. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

The best one was last week when he had all the little kids in for the presidential fitness thing. And he went on and on about in like a really blatant, you know, graphic, hardcore way about the war with the Iran. Yeah. And in front of the kids who are standing there wide eyed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, more from Trump.

[Trump (quoted)]

You know, I'm willing to, I'm willing to say terrible expression, take a bullet. It's a terrible expression, especially when it's used by me. But I am, I'm willing to take a bullet for the country. And I said, look, the stock market is going to go down, but we're going to have a threat of lunatics having the lunatics having a nuclear weapon. I deal with them. I deal with them. I say it to them. I say, you people are crazy. I deal with them. They talk differently. I say, you're crazy. You're crazy people. You're nuts. You're not having a nuclear weapon. They think they can talk me into it and they don't do very well with it, but they know how I feel. They can't have a nuclear weapon. They would use it within an hour after getting it.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I wish he'd mix in a little religious fanatic. Maybe he wants to stay away from that. But I'm glad to hear his resolve is, is apparently unflinching as it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure seems to be. On the whole they can't have a nuclear weapon thing, sure seems to be good. And yeah, he, he needs to be solid on that. But if you didn't follow it over the weekend, the brief version is, you know, we, we sent them our one page memorandum that included you don't get a nuke. We're going to grab the enriched uranium. The straightens be open. Their response was we control the strait and we still get a nuke. And Trump said, that's ridiculous. I reject it wholeheartedly. So we'll see where it goes from here.

[Joe Getty]

What do you think is happening behind the scenes?

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta believe it's a constantly changing, evolving situation where the players involved don't even know who's got the power at any given moment.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, behind the scenes there in Iran, I meant like among us and our allies. Do you think we're getting all our ducks in a row for a new round of ass whoopings.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, because anybody who sees a glimmer of hope in these negotiations has better vision than I do. I mean, it's just ridiculous. It's practically a parody of negotiation. I mean, you just laid out, quite accurately, folks, I'm here to back check. You laid out, quite accurately, the exchange of proposals over the weekend. That sounds like a parody.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it really does. Of something you would call a negotiation.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I'd like to buy your car for $1. I'm not selling my car for a dollar. Negotiations are ongoing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Or, you know, I'll offer you $1 and you have to throw in your wife. Well, the car costs $50 million and you have to cut off your hand. So let's start ongoing. Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

What? Okay. Different topic. Same theme, though. I mean, the same backdrop. The war in Iran. We've talked about this some. It's gotten a lot of news coverage. People who somehow are getting info and then being able to trade stocks, particularly around oil, and making lots of money having information the rest of us don't have. ABC News took a look at this last night.

[ABC News Reporter]

Sources tell ABC News the Justice Department is investigating $2.6 billion of suspiciously timed oil trades tied to the Iran war. In at least four cases, oil traders bet prices would drop right before they actually did. Investigators now probing whether they'd received inside information.

[Jack Armstrong]

So they did. That's Trump's Justice Department that's looking into this. They go on with the examples of people making trades right before Trump comes out and makes an announcement.

[ABC News Reporter]

On March 23, just 15 minutes before President Trump announced he would postpone attacks on Iran's power grid, traders bet more than $500 million oil prices would fall after the President's announcement. That's exactly what happened. Same story on April 7, hours before Trump announced the ceasefire, nearly $1 billion in bets that oil would drop, and it did. Twenty minutes before Iran announced the Strait of Hormuz would reopen, traders bet $760 million that oil would fall. It happened. And on April 21, 15 minutes before Trump extended the ceasefire, $430 million in bets came in and paid off.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this is not like all the nuclear scientists have disappeared in the last three years. Here's Jim Jones, who's 62 years old and died. And no, this is not one of those. You take some random, random data points and build a narrative around. That's just completely bs.

[Joe Getty]

These people are actual psychics or Getting inside information, obviously. 15 minutes here, 20 minutes there. Are you that. Please stop. Was consensus or research or trends or whatever, you'd have lots and lots of bets of that sort kind of ramping up as you get to within a couple of days, blah, blah, blah. Please, 15 minutes before the announcement.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stop it. Even if it was people who think Trump always tacos. I'm willing to bet money on he always tacos. He wouldn't wait until 15 minutes before he comes out to make his announcement.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right. And a lot of those announcements are not even. Right, like promoted.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

They're not scheduled per se.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's not a. At 9 o' clock today, Trump will announce whether or not we're going to proceed with the war. That's. Don't. That's not the way they, they unfold.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

He just out of nowhere when the deadline was 5 o' clock tonight, all of a sudden he will. In the Oval Office, like he is right now, he'd say, I'm going to extend it for another two days. And people bet on that 15 minutes before he said that. So, I mean, that is 100%. Somebody got the heads up. The only thing I don't get is if it's, if it, if Trump's involved, why would he spread it around to. Wouldn't he keep it tighter to people he knows, family?

[Joe Getty]

Maybe he is. I don't know. How many people do they think are involved?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Man, that's a lot of money.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, it is. Well, there's something really, really uncool going on here.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, clearly. Well, it's. I'm sure folks are yelling at their radio right now that that's become. Oh, here's a question. I'm going to present this as a question of the net worth of all of the rich people. Define that. How you want. Within 25 miles of Washington, D.C. what percentage of that net worth is generated by insider information about the functioning of government? Lots and lots. It's significant.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It's like oil is to Texas. I mean, it's a chunk.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's, It's.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't know. We. Hey, 250 years is a good run. There's no reason to be ashamed. It's like Tom Brady retiring in his 40s. Disappointing. But let's be realistic. We got 250 good years.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got a question for you. See if I can find it here. Somebody text today. Is this insider trading question day?

[Joe Getty]

I wish I knew. Anything worth trading on? Boy, would I. I would insider trade like a some bitch.

[Jack Armstrong]

See if I can find this. They overheard something.

[Joe Getty]

Are there any prediction markets on whether we will use a certain word? Because I will sell out. I mean you, kumquat, you name it. Probably the funniest word in the English language.

[Jack Armstrong]

So somebody texted me this the other day, hey, if I overheard the VP of a big oil company telling a politician about a stock that may or may not make money, is it insider trading if I buy the stock or just lucky eavesdropping? What if you just. They're not in the industry at all? Oh, no, they were just at a. At a social thing and apparently have good ears.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think there's any such thing as secondhand insider trading because you are not, you know, they did not intentionally share that information with you for the purpose of trading. You just heard it.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what I said too. And I was hoping my advice was correct and they don't end up in prison. Sorry about that. I was wrong. You should have asked Chatgpt instead of me, a disc jockey.

[Joe Getty]

If I'm outside an oil refinery and a guy runs out saying it's a fire, it's gonna burn the whole place down. And I trade on that. That's not insider trading, that's observation. It's keeping your ear to the ground.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, trade away.

[Jack Armstrong]

But if I trade tens of millions of dollars worth of oil stock 15 minutes before Trump announces these, extending a ceasefire or something like that, something's going on.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I should. I probably shouldn't admit to this. I'm going to end up in a cell next to Martha Stewart many years ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

A friend.

[Joe Getty]

As usual, every story told on the Armstrong and Getty show is entirely fictional.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an entertainment program.

[Joe Getty]

A friend who is in. Why don't I say the automotive business said, take a look at my company stock. Now's a really good time to buy. We've broken through on the blankety blank. Except it was more vague than that. But, you know, I'm reasonable.

[Jack Armstrong]

That sounds pretty insider y trading to me.

[Joe Getty]

I took the message. He essentially said, look, my company stock is about to go way up.

[Jack Armstrong]

And did you. And did it?

[Joe Getty]

I did some. I didn't go heavily into it because I didn't have very much money, but it went up a very little bit for a while. Then it went down again and I think was below the level it had been when I bought it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Moving up takes the fun out of

[Joe Getty]

inside insider trading ever. Thanks for nothing no.

[Jack Armstrong]

If with my insider trading I end up with less money, that's no good.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe he was selling the stock short. It was a pump and dump. I was the chump.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was going around talking out of the side of his mouth to everyone he could find. He's at the bagel place. So I work for Acme Industry and I'm just, just, just letting you know

[Joe Getty]

I got a pickup truck. It's 400 miles per gallon. Bye bye.

[Jack Armstrong]

Moving up.

[Joe Getty]

Pump and dump, chump.

[Jack Armstrong]

Moving down.

[Joe Getty]

That's right. That's how it goes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you think, well, he told me out of the side of his mouth. So it must be, it must be pretty, pretty secret stuff.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Christopher Rufo, who we've quoted many times over the years. We ever had him on there? I don't think we have.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, maybe once back in the day, but not enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, the title of this story is Watching Porn on Death Row and it's out of the California prison system. Under Gavin Newsome, state prisoners are turning taxpayer funded tablets into personal sex machines. And what's fantastic about this? As a guy who wants to be President of the United States, Gavin Newsom sought to transform the massive prison system into a Nordic style rehabilitation program. Newsom has placed a moratorium on all executions, transferred condemned prisoners to facilities across the state, dismantled San Quentin's death row, and turned the notorious prison into a therapeutic center with art classrooms, a cafe and podcast studios. Nice, because that's what rapists and murderers need. Podcast studios. Yeah, part of the transformation. The Newsom administration approved a $189 million contract that we all paid for its taxpayers in the state of California. What's that number again? 189 million to provide new tablets to all the prisoners.

[Joe Getty]

Wait a minute.

[Jack Armstrong]

They already had tablets? By the way, I would be against this even if they didn't have them at all. But the fact that they already had him and needed the newest, coolest one. Are you freaking kidding me?

[Joe Getty]

How did it cost that? Give me the state credit card. I'll go down to the Apple Store

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't give my kids the newest, coolest one. If that one you've got from several years ago still works, keep using it. Yeah, until you grow up by your own. Anyway, the administration heralded the effort to replace the inmates old tablets, which were from 2018. Wouldn't want prisoners to have committed crimes against society to have to use an old tablet.

[Joe Getty]

An old free tablet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, they gave taxpayer funded. They gave to all prisoners in 23 as a step toward digital equity. These are all in quotes. These are actual terms used by Gavin Newsom. We want prisoners to achieve digital equity for the justice impacted individuals who could.

[Joe Getty]

Justice impacted individuals. This is a Orwellian masterpiece.

[Jack Armstrong]

It really is. I'm the justice impacted individual. If you, you know, stole my car, hit me on the head or whatever the hell.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't give a crap about their justice impact. They, they earned it anyway. Digital equity for justice impacted individuals who could. In theory, this is hilarious. Especially given the headline that they're using these things to look at porn. Course they are. You're a dude locked in a cell all day long with wi fi and a tablet. What do you think you're supposed.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's what I would do. That and Scrabble. Porn and Scrabble.

[Jack Armstrong]

What they were supposed to be doing, or what Gavin Newsom thought they would be doing, is using the devices to contact their families, consume educational content and learn new technology so that they could get a job when they got out. Of course that's what they're going to do.

[Joe Getty]

Much like what was the program we talked about the other day that was many, many, many times more expensive than could possibly be justified? It's because whoever was the nonprofit.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the diaper thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, the diaper thing, exactly. Somebody got an enormous hunk of cash to go down and buy tablets you could have bought for a fraction.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure that's true. I don't think we ought to be giving them tablets anyway. I don't care about their digital equity. Though the state has claimed to regulate explicit comment content, the inmates told us at the City Journal that users can easily evade detection. Of course they can. So the official word from the prison and from the state is they're not allowed to look at porn. And they aren't because we got this. They interviewed all these different inmates to say, hey, we look at porn all day long. That's what we do. Inmates told us a different story. For some, the devices have become personal sex machines. In the words of one inmate, California's death row is Populated with desperate, horny criminals who see the tablets as a way to satisfy their bases, fantasies and desires. All thanks to the California taxpayer.

[Bethany Frankel]

Thanks for taking my money.

[Jack Armstrong]

They even interviewed this guy named Robert Maury, who you, if you've been in California your whole life, might remember as before our time here in the 1980s, he was a serial rapist murderer, nicknamed the Tipster Killer because we don't actually murder or murder, we don't actually execute anybody on death row. He's still alive, of course. They interviewed him. And he's a horrifying person. Killed a woman by strangling her with a clothesline, strangled and killed two other women, raped, blah, blah, blah, all this different sort of stuff. He's living in a state prison facility in Stockton, California, where he says he has viewed pornography on his taxpayer funded digital tablet all day long. In an interview, he told us inmates can receive nude pictures, watch pornography through their devices. In his case, he claimed to receive topless photos from a 22 year old psychology student who was hoping I would share my story with her for a class project. He said he flirted with her.

[Joe Getty]

Fair is fair.

[Jack Armstrong]

See, a guy got a guy who strangled and murdered women for years, gets thrown in prison and you give him a tablet paid for. And the wi fi is being paid for us by T2, obviously. Sure, yeah, so he can look at porn all day long. What the hell kind of world do we live in?

[Joe Getty]

Boy, there have been a handful of high profile cases. We haven't gotten to them because we don't want to, you know, be all horror all the time. But a couple of high profile cases lately where guys have been turned loose by the woke justice system of one blue state or another, then committed an even more horrendous act. Oh, the one with the famous quote, um, oh, where is it? Oh, where is it? Oh, I don't want to put another black man in jail. This woman who was violently accosted by a guy, but was woke and thought, no, I shouldn't, and then he did something truly horrific to somebody else. Now she's thinking, I don't know, maybe I should have called the cops. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. This is the best weekend talk show in America.

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[ABC News Reporter]

The Rise of Artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution.

[Trump (quoted)]

Oh,

[Joe Getty]

What happened? Okay, I struck a chord. AI was not a factor in our lives.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that is interesting. That's a commencement speaker, Central Florida University College or whatever. Anyway, mentioning AI and people booing and then when she says it wasn't part of our lives.

[Joe Getty]

Good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yay.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that the, the consensus feeling of young people?

[Joe Getty]

I think it's the feeling. It's the feeling, not necessarily the intellectual attitude. If I'm a young college grad, I got a white collar on and I'm a, you know, I'm looking for one of them college grad jobs, I'm thinking AI is gonna screw me. Oh my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's interesting. I just assumed like every new techn technological thing, Internet, phone, tick tock, whatever, the young people love it, dig it. And she mentions AI and everybody booze.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Which reminds me, we have some really interesting stories from the world of education, mostly college, but not exclusively including. Brace yourselves, some good news coming up later, so stay with us.

[Jack Armstrong]

That can have some serious political implications. I mean if you have the older crowd hating on AI, I mean I'd love if it just never happened. I don't think there's any stopping it.

[Joe Getty]

Can I keep my chat bot?

[Jack Armstrong]

But if young people hate it too, you could get some sort of political movement for all kinds of regulation. Probably not that I think that would do any good.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, different story. Wanted to hit this. How did, how did this get started? Oh, AOC and others who have talked about how billionaires shouldn't exist and every billionaire cheated the world and all that sort of stuff has been. And the billionaire tax in California, which is going to pass and end up being a by far a net loss for any state that starts punishing rich people almost immediately. Almost immediately. Anyway, I don't know if you know who Robert Reich is, 4 foot 11. So if you've seen him on TV's the Really Short guy. And he was the Secretary of labor under Bill Clinton, but he was an advisor for Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter. He's one of your lefty left. A Trotsky intellectual economic people who's usually passed off on TV as mainstream. Though a Democrat, he's a professor at the University of California at Berkeley. Anyway, he put out this post yesterday about that whole billionaire thing because AOC had said any billionaire you know got it through. It's ill gotten goods. He said there are basically five ways to accumulate a billion dollars. Here's guy who's dedicated his life to Understanding economics.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are five ways to accumulate a billion dollars. One, profiting from a monopoly. Two, insider trading. Three, political payoffs for fraud. Five, inheritance. Those are the only five ways. Don't believe the self made myth, he

[Joe Getty]

said that is bizarre and utterly unsquarable with the facts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you think he believes that? He doesn't think that. Well, first of all, I can give you the actual research shows most billionaires accumulated wealth by founding and building successful companies. A University of Chicago study found that 70% of the 2011 Forbes 400 billionaires started their own businesses. Do you think he believes that?

[Joe Getty]

It's possible. It's practically a coin flip. Go ahead. I'm sorry, was there more to your sentence? Marxists lie a lot. Constantly. It's part of their strategy because they count on you thinking, well, he wouldn't lie about something that important. But he would. On the other hand, your dedicated, you know, radical theorists, they truly believe all sorts of stuff that's unsquarable with reality. So whether he believes it or not, I don't know. It's dangerous either way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, as a bunch of people pointed out. Well, what if you invented something that you know, 100 million people wanted to buy and it cost, you know, a little bit? Yeah, that there's a billion. Why does that seem so crazy to you?

[Joe Getty]

Global supply chains, there's you know, several billion people and the developed world who are consumers and they really like your product. How about that Robert Aoc.

[Jack Armstrong]

The first person who comes up with an electric car that actually, you know, is viable shouldn't end up a billionaire.

[Joe Getty]

How about Taylor Swift?

[Jack Armstrong]

There's a good example. Although I heard the pushback the other day, I think it was might have been Robert Reisher that people always go to Taylor Swift or All right, I'll

[Joe Getty]

stop or Jay Z.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, to make their point. Those are exceptions. The rule is these other five things.

[Joe Getty]

You lying commie.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought that was extraordinary. He was supposed to be like a mainstream Democrat advisor to mainstream Democrat presidents.

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[Jack Armstrong]

And he doesn't believe you can become a billionaire without stealing it.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, I tell you what, in politics it is a 1 inch putt. Trying to convince people who are envious to believe in the politics of envy. It's the easiest thing in the world. Wow, that's just so unhealthy and so un American really. For most of our history we admired those who came up with great ideas and became wealthy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I thought that was mind blowing.

[Joe Getty]

Well, oddly enough this, this next topic includes a billionaire. He might be America's wackiest man. Do you remember when we were talking about Eric Swalwell and his sexcapades and the fact that he was living with a billionaire donor who's like, his biggest fan? Stephen Klubeck was his name. And when the Swalwell thing all went sideways and it turns out he'd been deceiving everybody, including this Klubeck, we played you some audio from him.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I was blown away.

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[Joe Getty]

Get the out of here. You don't exist in my life. So he doesn't exist in my life. He don't bust the trust, Michael. You don't bust the trust.

[Jack Armstrong]

So he kicked Eric Swalwell out of his home. I. I don't quite get the whole I'm super rich and I want this guy to be a successful politician, so I let him live in my house.

[Joe Getty]

I don't get that very hunter bite relationship. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, when it turned out he was being lied to, he kicked the kick swallow up. No, I was blown away. Well, he was blown away. Plus

[Joe Getty]

did the trust.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which you don't do.

[Joe Getty]

No. Anyway, so this guy, you have to remember leading up to that, he was desperately trying to defend his Penthouse Pet fiance, who was a serial bilker of old rich guys. He was trying to defend her from the charges, convinced that she was really in love with him and they were going to get married. That's really, really wacky. Well, he was arrested yesterday. This Stephen Klubeck evidently busted the trust with the law for a felony charge of attempting to prevent or dissuade a victim or witness from testifying. The circumstances surrounding the charges are unclear. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. So, yeah, they don't really even give you any clues about what this was all about, but it probably has to do with his thieving con woman sex pet fiance. She's currently not allowed to leave California sporting an ankle monitor. She appeared in court recently to plead not guilty to six felony charges for allegedly preying on old men through dating apps. Klubeck told the California Post he still wants to marry her, saying the marriage is still on. The date is now a secret. Oh, there. Save the date card, which is done in, like, semi Disney cartoon style, is just unbelievable. Yeah. Wow. She looks like a Disney princess.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I was blown away.

[Joe Getty]

Who wouldn't be? Wow. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it's interesting, as I mentioned last week, the all these politicians that find some crazy super rich person and. And. And woo them with their, you know, politician phony charm, I guess, and it's happened multiple times. With lots of different people.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, they're grifters.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't remember.

[Joe Getty]

How did he make his money? Is that some website or pot, maybe? I don't know. How did a guy that dopey become a billionaire? Wow. Robert Reich, explain that one.

[Jack Armstrong]

So kind of a breaking story we ought to mention just because we talked about it a lot at the time. You remember that scumbag murderer, Alex Murdaugh?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That whole family. And how he had run that part of South Carolina for years, him and his family.

[Joe Getty]

He's like the third generation most powerful lawyer.

[Trump (quoted)]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Him and his kids could get away with, well, murder.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

In some cases, it would seem he went to prison. Finally. Who did he kill? He killed his wife.

[Joe Getty]

He killed his wife and his son. Right. Shotgun slaying.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then tried to, because he was a drug addict, make it look like it was somebody else.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, he was pilled up. He was stealing from his firm, stealing from his clients.

[Jack Armstrong]

Horrible human being. Anyway, South Carolina's top court overturned the murder convictions against Alec Murdoch.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who had been found guilty of killing his wife and son. This decision upends one of America's highest profile homicide cases. Yeah, there were all kinds of Netflix specials and stuff like this around. Yeah, this one, because it's. It's the stor. Sort of stuff of movies. Because he was so dominant in that county that he lived in that. That he, you know, he. He owned judges and cops and jurors and all kinds of stuff. And I wonder if that has come to be again. Did he somehow get to.

[Joe Getty]

No, I doubt it. I've got to read up on it. There were a few irregularities during the trial, including the county clerk was accused of leaking. There it is. Yeah. I got to dig into this. Boy. My daughter is probably all a Twitter over this, as she is, like many young women, a true crimes podcast maniac.

[Jack Armstrong]

But there wasn't anybody that thought he wasn't guilty.

[Joe Getty]

There it is. In a unanimous opinion, the state supreme court said that shocking jury interference by a court clerk who oversaw jurors during the 2023 trial meant that Mr. Murdoch's conviction. Conviction must be overturned. Crooked clerk of the court.

[Jack Armstrong]

But nobody thinks he didn't do it, do they?

[Joe Getty]

No, not really, no. No, he's guilty as hell.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this scumbag who murdered his wife and shotgun his son to death.

[Joe Getty]

Death, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And all kinds of other bad stuff. And the kids had gotten away with all kinds of bad stuff, too, over the years.

[Joe Getty]

It's certainly a reckless homicide. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is he gonna Walk out.

[Joe Getty]

No, Absolutely not. No.

[Jack Armstrong]

So what's gonna happen?

[Joe Getty]

He will remain in prison because he had also pleaded guilty to various charges related to stealing millions of dollars from his former clients in his law firm. While he is admitted to the embezzlement, he's long maintained during trial, blah, blah, blah, that he did not kill his wife Maggie, and his young son Paul, age 20, 22. The ruling does not automatically mean he will face a new trial, though prosecutors are expected to pursue. He's guilty as hell. And so they'll just put the case together and assemble another jury and do it again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oof.

[Joe Getty]

They've got to shotgun. Two innocent people in his own family.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm glad he's not walking out of there today.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no. No way. No way.

[Jack Armstrong]

You probably get a little better prison you get to be in if you're not a murderer. Right. Stealing from your company is different than. Got to be a different prison than being a murderer.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I don't think so. Prison's prison, isn't it? I don't know. I don't think I have. What do I know about.

[Jack Armstrong]

For separate crimes, I haven't been thrown in prison yet.

[Joe Getty]

Not yet. Boy. I'm ready to testify, though. State, local, federal authorities, whoever you are.

[Jack Armstrong]

International courts.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Public Investing Ad Host]

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[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Well, this guy, keeping in mind he stole from like, there are. There were people who legitimately had horrible things happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And he represented them right. And they were very poor and they got some money and he stole it all. So, yeah, whatever miserable prison that they got in South Carolina. Stick a minute.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, keep him in it. Stockade. Throw tomatoes at his head. Yes. Okay. More on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

We've decided to call this the best weekend talk show in America. And if you like it, download Armstrong and Yeti on demand.

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[Joe Getty]

Why did we get acupuncture like 25 years ago? Do you remember that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. I don't think I've ever had.

[Joe Getty]

I think he. I. I'm pretty sure both of us did. I can't dare. I think I was having back spasms or something, but I thought it was part of some station thing we did.

[Jack Armstrong]

You had gone to Thailand for vacation by yourself.

[Joe Getty]

The shots weren't working and they convinced me that needles would. Anyway, I've had it done once. I don't have any memory if I. If I thought it did me any good whatsoever. But I'm gonna back up a little bit.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, now that you mentioned, I think maybe I have had acupuncture. Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I can't remember.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have I ever been in the circus? Just wondering if there's other things I don't remember.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yes, there are, but. So everybody knows about the two systems in the human body that circulate fluids, specifically, and that's the lymphatic system, which was discovered in the 1600s before the circulatory system, weirdly enough. And six years later they described the cardiovascular system which pumps blood through the arteries, veins and capillaries, etc. It all happened within six years of each other in 1622.

[Jack Armstrong]

Isn't that interesting?

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, so scientists now think they've come across a third. And here's a third system. And here's how it happened. It was just a few years ago they were examining the skin of people with tattoos. And the researchers saw in biopsies that the ink particles had traveled deeper into the body than they expected through the skin into an interstitial space between it, and from that space into the fascia, which is the connective material below that. And the discovery of a hidden pathway between two layers of tissue that weren't known to connect in this way was kind of a surprise. But they say it has far reaching implications for our understanding of the human body and our health. Because that interstitial space doesn't just exist between the skin and fascia, or fascia. Researchers discovered there are spaces like it throughout the body, forming pathways between organs and allowing fluid cells and molecules to move between them before re entering the lymphatic and cardiovascular systems. They're calling this interconnected network the interstitium. I've got a longer story about it, but it gets a little technical. But here's where we get humbled in the west, friends. The idea of a third circulatory system will not come as any surprise to anyone who practices traditional Chinese medicine. One professor told the researcher, quote, this knowledge is actually quite ancient. It's something that other systems of medicine have been offering for a long time, but they didn't have microscopes. Mention the interstitium to an acupuncturist and you'll probably get an eye roll like, yeah, no kidding. Acupuncture works. Of course. The studies are clear. People seek it out for treatment of all sorts of ills, from chronic pain and migraines to anxiety and insomnia. The discovery of the interstitium may help us better understand how it works. Then they get into the traditional Chinese

[Jack Armstrong]

medicine and insomnia, Anxiety seems like a stretch, but that other stuff I certainly could believe.

[Joe Getty]

Well, traditional Chinese medicine says that acupuncture is a way to balance the flow of energy known as qi through one of the body's 12 main meridians. Acupuncturists insert these thin needles into specific points along those meridians to enhance the flow of qi. You gotta get your qi flowing. Those specific acupuncture points are within the same areas of connected tissue where fluid flows through the interstitium, researchers found. And when they injected dye into acupuncture points on the forearms of volunteers, it slowly migrated up the arm along a meridian. This pathway doesn't go in the veins, it doesn't go superficially. Instead, it flows through the interstitium between the muscles. Quote, when I saw that, I said, we're onto something. This truly has to do with acupuncture.

[Jack Armstrong]

My cheese all jammed up down by my lumbar. Gotta back up.

[Joe Getty]

It's your diet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably my diet, yeah. The problem with this is, I mean, that all makes sense. And I could believe. The problem is that anytime you get into the Eastern medicine thing, it comes with a. It's a package deal with a lot of people. It comes with a bunch of other really annoying crap that they're going to tell you about.

[Joe Getty]

Right. It reminds me of chiropractic a little bit in that if you concede, okay, it does help back problems in a lot of cases. You've kind of walked in the door of. It can cure acne and earaches and saggy eyelids and everything else.

[Jack Armstrong]

And who's going to tell you it doesn't?

[Joe Getty]

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