The Dead Eyes

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: The Dead Eyes
Date: December 15, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty centers on their fundraising campaign for scouting, exploring the importance of youth leadership, resilience, and patriotism fostered by the program. The hosts also delve into significant current events, including a major Justice Department ruling on "disparate impact," the psychology of online "rage bait" culture, and a viral NFL comeback story. The conversation balances earnest advocacy and tongue-in-cheek banter, maintaining the show’s trademark candid, conversational tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Scouting Fundraiser & The Value of Scouting

(03:02–11:39, 14:15–15:05, 37:49–40:00)

• Personal Impact of Scouting

  • Jack shares his amazement at the maturity and responsibility cultivated in scouts, especially compared to today's youth:
    • “I saw 15-year-olds who seemed like they were 25 year-olds... And it's because they've been in this Scouting program.” ([04:15], Jack)
  • Focus on leadership: “Camping’s a great activity to do, to learn leadership… and kids, when you give them responsibility, they tend to rise to the occasion.” ([04:10–05:01], Jack)

• Scouting as a Counterbalance to Modern Trends

  • Hosts discuss the contrast to “helicopter parenting” and “modern era woke crap,” emphasizing personal accountability:
    • “It's 180 degrees from the helicopter parenting… The adults stand back and watch – sometimes the tent falls down or somebody forgot to bring something. Now what are they gonna do?” ([06:11], Jack)

• Inclusivity and Patriotism

  • Noted that girls are now included, and both boys and girls benefit from challenging, responsibility-driven experiences:
    • “They're not treated like lap dogs. They're treated like capable human beings.” ([05:41], Joe)
  • Unapologetic patriotism taught in scouting highlighted as an antidote to cynicism in schools.

• Fundraising Progress & Community Engagement

  • Several donation shout-outs, some humorous:
    • “Already we've had $100 from Tenderfoot Dan... $25 from the ghost of Dominic... 50 bucks from an E Way 02.” ([06:33–07:18], Jack & Joe)
  • Current total: $17,414 as of mid-episode ([39:19], Jack)
  • Flexible, anonymous, or creative donations encouraged: “You can give with your name... be anonymous or come up with a funny name.” ([06:33], Jack)

2. Justice Department & Disparate Impact Doctrine

(15:05–18:56)

• Explaining Disparate Impact

  • Joe summarizes: “If there's a differing result among different racial groups... that's enough proof that there was discrimination.” ([15:20], Joe)
  • Critique of the doctrine leading to reverse discrimination and quotas.

• Recent DOJ Ruling

  • DOJ, led by Harmeet Dhillon, rejects disparate impact theory:
    • “Our rejection of this theory will restore true equality under the law by requiring proof of actual discrimination rather than enforcing race and sex based quotas or assumptions.” ([15:54], Joe, quoting Dhillon)
  • Reflection on Supreme Court history, Griggs v. Duke Power, and impact on employers.
  • Emphasis that change means less incentive for “racial balancing.”

3. Political Violence, Social Media, and Public Discourse

(10:43–11:46, 19:02–23:36)

• Condemnation of Celebrating Deaths Over Politics

  • Jack challenges listeners:
    • “What is wrong with you... if you in any way are happy to see some husband and wife stabbed to death by their kid because of their politics, you've broken. There's something broken with you.” ([10:43], Jack)
  • Referencing both left and right examples of “taking glee” in political opponents’ suffering ([11:25], Joe).

• Response to Rob Reiner/Charlie Kirk Events

  • Concern over tribalistic cruelty and Trump's inflammatory posts:
    • “It’s just where we are. I don’t know what to do about it. Let the pendulum swing back. Or maybe it won’t. Ever.” ([23:23], Jack)

4. The Psychology and Economics of ‘Rage Bait' Online

(29:05–36:41)

• What is Rage Bait?

  • Defined as “intentionally posting something... that will anger people.” ([29:23], Joe)
  • Oxford’s ‘Word of the Year’ is ‘rage bait.’ ([29:46], Joe)
  • Negative content gains more engagement due to human “negativity bias.”
    • “Anger suggests that action needs to be taken... happiness suggests everything is okay.” ([31:54], Joe)

• How Algorithms Amplify Outrage

  • Social media rewards engagement, not positivity.
  • Jack: “We gotta fix this. We cannot survive this if we don’t fix it.” ([30:57])

• Psychological Insights

  • “People bond more quickly over what they don’t like… they bond over what they hate.” ([33:16], Joe)
  • Jack describes learning to recognize and disengage from online trolls:
    • “I am better than I was even a couple of months ago at recognizing... you're just trying to... I see what you're trying to do.” ([32:23], Jack)

• ‘Dead Eyes’ Technique

  • Joe’s “superpower” for dealing with provocateurs:
    • “If you can just fix them with the dead eyes and show a complete lack of reaction... it's like a superpower.” ([35:40–36:05], Joe)
    • “I'm not angered by you... I'm bored by you. That's what the dead eyes say.” ([36:39], Joe & Jack)

5. NFL Comeback—Philip Rivers Returns

(43:36–49:54)

• The Remarkable Story

  • 44-year-old retired quarterback Philip Rivers returns to play after 5 years away, captures widespread attention ([43:55–45:19]).
  • Jason Gay: “He moved like a man trying to make a sandwich in the dark... at one point... he fell over without anyone touching him, like your uncle does every Fourth of July party...” ([44:16–45:27], Joe, quoting Jason Gay)

• Rivers’ Reflection

  • “You can... The guaranteed safe bet is to... not go for it. And the other one is, shoot, let's see what happens, you know?” ([46:08], Rivers)

• Connection to Episode Theme

  • Pushed as an example to “go out and try something,” resonating with the scouting fundraiser's empowerment message.

• On Playing Quarterback

  • Jack: “There’s really only like eight to ten guys that are really capable of being an NFL quarterback at any given time... That’s why the really good ones get to play so long.” ([46:52], Jack)
  • Discussion of how greater skill and experience in high-pressure situations causes “the game to slow down”—also connected to learning and leadership.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Scouting’s Purpose
  • “Camping is a great activity... kids, when you give them responsibility, they tend to rise to the occasion. It just changes them. It's amazing.” ([04:10–05:01], Jack)
• On Social Media Negativity
  • “We gotta fix this. We cannot survive this if we don't fix it.” ([30:57], Jack)
• On Rage Bait
  • “In evolutionary terms, it's more important for us to pay attention to a situation that has caused anger... than to a situation that has created happiness.” ([31:54], Joe)
• On the ‘Dead Eyes’ Response
  • “If you can give them the... I heard everything you said and you're getting nothing out of me. Oh, please. They wither like a violent [flower] in winter...” ([36:01–36:27], Joe)
• Philip Rivers Inspiring Young People
  • “The guaranteed safe bet is... not go for it. And the other one is, shoot, let's see what happens.” ([46:08], Philip Rivers audio)

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Important Timestamps

• Kickoff of scouting fundraiser: 03:02–06:33
• Discussion of scouting's impact and philosophy: 04:10–07:39, 37:49–40:00
• Major DOJ ruling on disparate impact: 15:05–18:56
• Condemnation of political extremism/violence: 10:43–11:46, 19:02–23:36
• Full rage bait/online engagement discussion: 29:05–36:41
• NFL comeback story (Philip Rivers): 43:36–49:54

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Additional Notes

• Fundraiser Progress & Fun: The segment features ongoing updates on funds raised, with humorous donor pseudonyms and anecdotes about past show members for levity.
• Inclusion & Maturity: The hosts strongly argue that hands-off, responsibility-based programs create mature, capable, patriotic young adults, in sharp contrast to “woke” and overprotective trends.
• Rage Bait Solutions: Psychology-backed advice is given—recognition, emotional distance (“dead eyes”), and educating oneself about manipulation can help break the cycle.
• Positive Risk-taking: The story of Rivers is used as a teaching moment, tying back to the theme of embracing challenging, growth-oriented experiences for youth and adults alike.

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For full details, personal anecdotes, and the hosts’ signature banter, listen to the episode or catch up on Armstrong & Getty On Demand.

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Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong. And get.

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There's a thousand dollars from a supporter. We might have to start doing our whale watch as we are raising money for Scouting this week. My son has been a Boy Scout now for nine months or something like that. Just absolutely blown away by the organization. And we decided we'd raise some money so more kids could get involved in Scouting because it does cost something. There's several hundred dollars just to get started. And we're going to raise money so that they'll have basically scholarships. Some more kids get involved in Scouting.

[B]

I think a lot of people are only vaguely aware, Jack, of why they would support Scouting. I really do. I think we need to help them understand that.

[C]

Yeah, I thought it was mostly learning to camp myself and time.

[B]

Useful skills, no doubt.

[C]

Yeah. Which is not nothing but what I've learned about since my son got involved. And it's all about the leadership. I mean the, the, the. It's all built around, you know, camping is a great activity to do, to learn leadership and have people take different roles of preparing and organizing and having a list and checking it twice and all that different sort of stuff.

[B]

Partly because the stakes are pretty high.

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Because the stakes are very high.

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You get out there miserable if you screw it up.

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You get out there and you might be wet if it's raining or not have enough food or whatever it is. And the main thing is I saw 15 year olds who seemed like they were 25 year olds. And I feel like I don't see that a lot in the modern era. It's more the other way around, which I see a lot. And it just blew me away. I thought why are these kids so mature? And it's because they've been in this Scouting program. Some of them that are really into leadership go off to these various leadership conferences, camps where they specifically work on leadership. But just in your own Scouting troop, you rise up through the ranks and now all of a sudden you're in charge of or that. And kids, when you give them responsibility, they tend to rise to the occasion or the demands. They take on the responsibility and it just changes them. It's amazing.

[B]

And a couple of more points. Number one, their absolute unapologetic patriotism is fantastic. Teaching kids to love their country that's a breath of fresh air and value it and liberty. Is that not a counterbalance that we all have been crying out for to for instance our government schools? Second thing is and for various reasons that you've probably followed the history of it but they. They do have girls in in Scouting USA as well.

[C]

I met a couple of Eagle scouts girls that were Eagle scouts at the big fundraiser in Sacramento last year and very impressive girls.

[B]

But as an activist now I was thinking about this for going on 25 years against the war on and the trying to feminize everything. The fact that both boys and girls go out, they work hard, they get dirty, they camp, they take responsibility. They're not treated like lap dogs. They're treated like capable human beings. It's a counterbalance to so many of the things that we and you have been railing about for so long. It's a force for good.

[C]

It's 180 degrees from the helicopter parenting. Everything needs to be planned out. Modern era woke crap. The adults stand back and watch and sometimes times the tent falls down or somebody forgot to bring the something. Now what are they gonna do? And adults just stand back and let them figure it out.

[B]

Right. How valuable is that? Oh, it's amazing. So great. Such a positive force.

[C]

So we like raising money in the way that we do because you can. You can give with your name which is fantastic or you can be anonymous or you can come up with a funny name. And we'll get to a total here in just a second. But already we've had $100 from Tenderfoot Dan. Thank you very much, Tenderfoot Dan. We had unbaked cookie dough chip in 25 bucks.

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Thank you, cookie dough. Thank you for your delightfulness in every way.

[C]

How much of that did I eat yesterday as Henry the scout was making cookies? Unbaked cookie dough. I like 25 bucks from the ghost of Dominic. This is a clever one. 50 bucks from an E Way 02.

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Anyway.

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Oh, that's pretty funny. The ghost of Dominic. I don't know how I feel about that. Anyway, Gladys once a year gets to put away her harp and get out her snare drum which he played when the troops came back home in 1918. Gladys, let's get a total here. We are already at.

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We've only been doing this for an hour.

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11,753 doll.

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Fantastic.

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That's a pretty good start actually.

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It's a very nice start. Yeah.

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I don't know what our go. We got a goal of 50,000, I have no idea what we're actually going to hit. We may blow past that by. But you know, there's all kinds of, there's, there's all kinds of things going on that we don't. So it's hard to guess. The economy's weird right now. People are feeling maxed out.

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Well, an AI is going to come for your heart and lungs within five years. So what good is your money going to do you? You might as well donate it. We just, we don't want there be an American kid who wants to get into scouting. But times are tough for the family and mom and dad have to say, I'm sorry, we can't do that. We, that's, that's what we're trying to do here.

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I feel for the have nots in the current economic times. Let me appeal to the haves. If you're running around, I know what it's like out there. I've been running around myself. Every restaurant is packed, every mall is packed, every convenience store is packed. It's just everybody's running around doing stuff. You're traveling, you're spending money. If you're doing that, you, and you want to just assuage your concerts a little bit. You're feeling guilty about spending so much money on yourself and your family. This is what you do. This is just to help your conscience. If nothing else, you throw a little money towards scouting. By going armstrong and getty.com we made it super easy to donate. Now you'll be able to go and, you know, indulge in something ridiculous and not feel so guilty. There you go.

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Yeah, I like, I like you spelling that out with time. And I got a perfect little thing here before we take a break and we'll break on time because I've seen some of this on the text line about the death of Rob Reiner because you didn't like his politics. First of all, what is wrong with you? If you in any way are happy to see some husband and wife stabbed to death by their kid because of their politics, you've broken. There's something broken with you. And our friend Tim Sandifer retweeted, this is exactly like the people who took Glee and Charlie Kirk being assassinated. You realize you're doing the same thing. Yeah. Only on a different side. But it's exactly the same impulse and it's sick.

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Maybe later on this hour, the psychology and finances of rage baiting online.

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Oh, I like that.

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Why do so many people show the worst aspects of humanity online? It's pretty interesting.

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Wow.

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We're happy to see you. Just go to armstrongandgetty.com and it's pretty obvious on how you donate. So.

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The Justice Department last week issued a major, major ruling that I did not see covered. I'm glad I came across this. Are you familiar with the horrific, idiotic, illogical doctrine of disparate impact?

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Oh, yeah.

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If there's a differing result among different racial groups being hired at certain numbers, passing a test in certain numbers, losing a foot race, whatever, that is enough proof that there was discrimination, that that is illegal, that it must be fixed.

[C]

Right. No matter what it is, if you end up with an outcome that's not 50, 50 men and women or the percentage of black people, Hispanic people, gay people that exist in America, it is by definition picking and choosing winners.

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Discriminatory.

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Discriminatory.

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Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon, who's one of the great civil rights heroes of the 21st century, we've talked to her a number of times on the air, it's been a while, said our rejection of this theory will restore true equality under the law by requiring proof of actual discrimination rather than enforcing race and sex based quotas or assumptions.

[C]

Well, did you mention the Supreme Court has ruled several times that disparate impact is a good idea, which is highly troubling.

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Yeah, it is highly troubling. It was kind of tacked on to the section of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. There was a big court case, supreme court case in 1971. And if you don't know the history of the Supreme Court, the idea that because now briefly it leans conservative is somehow a horror. Well, for like 50 years it leaned way, way left, super activist court. And this Griggs versus Duke Power essentially said. Well, specifically it said Duke Power had discriminated against black employees by requiring applicants for promotion to have a high school diploma and pass two aptitude tests. Unless the player could provide a prove a business necessity for that policy or any policy with disparate impact, it would be liable for discrimination. That doctrine's been weakened in various ways by various court cases through the years, but it was still a factor and then got really revived and pushed during the woke, woke apocalypse of 2020 through, you know, fairly recently. But the, the administration, the Justice Department just came out and said, no, we completely reject it as a doctrine. And it is, let's see, specifically they issued a rule doing away with disparate impact liability under one section of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. So that we're gonna cure racism by more. Racism has been weakened considerably because the one problem with it is it creates incentives for employers to engage in outright discrimination. You might probably not remember, but Ricci vs. DiStefano. In 2009, plaintiffs were white firefighters in New Haven, Connecticut, who passed a test for promotion decisions. Because whites passed at higher rates than minorities, the city worried it would face disparate impact lawsuits. So it discarded the test results and did not promote the white firefighters.

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Well, from a legal standpoint, you could see why they did.

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Yeah, just to protect their arses. Yeah, absolutely. So that Clarence Thomas, by the way, has hated this forever.

[C]

Well, it's nonsensical. It's stupid on its face as far as I'm concerned.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Well. And he wrote in his eloquent style, that allowing disparate impact liability quote to correct for imbalances that do not result from any unlawful conduct conduct inevitably leads to racial balancing, which is patently unconstitutional. So, Anyway, well done, Ms. Dylan in the Justice Department. Love that move. Love it, love it, love it.

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[C]

You're right. Okay, that explains it. There you go. Did you know that Australia has the highest per capita population of Holocaust survivors outside of Israel? I did not just read that.

[B]

Yeah.

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Had a couple of Holocaust survivors who were killed by those Islamist nut jobs over the weekend. Jesus survived the Holocaust. All these years later, you get shot in the country of Australia, of all places.

[B]

Just horrifying.

[C]

By a couple of people who dedicated their lives to isis. How in the hell does that ideology catch on?

[B]

And I want to repeat this every time we bring the story up. They globalized the Intifada.

[C]

Absolutely. That's what it means. I'm not sure all the college kids who chant it know that that's what it means, but Zoran Mandami knew what it meant and he refused to distance himself from the phrase.

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Right, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, the college kids being fools who were. Or. Or you know what, more charitably innocents. They were innocents who were indoctrinated by their evil professors and the Islamists who work with the Neo Marxists, the Red Green Alliance. You know, kicking the kids probably won't do any good, but you have been defrauded, you have been fooled, and you have been duped into enlisting in an army of evil youngsters. Go awol.

[C]

By the way, since I mentioned this a little bit ago, that if you didn't like Rob Reiner's politics and you make any comment joyful about his dying, you're just like the people who cheered Charlie Kirk being assassinated. And Rob Reiner did it in a interview just a couple of days ago with Piers Morgan in which he said Charlie Kirk's assassination was an absolute horror. Nobody should die for their politics like that, no matter what their politics are. And he was amazed and impressed with Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's wife's ability to forgive the killer. So that's Rob Reiner's attitude about that sort of thing. Yeah, and it had nothing to do with his politics anyway, despite what Donald Trump tweeted, it was their homeless, drug addicted son that probably came in the house and killed them, which is pretty awful.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I, I'm. Yeah, okay. Trump's tweet was horrific. Truth.

[C]

I don't know what to say about that.

[B]

I can tell, I can tell. I was going to bring that up. Every descriptor you've used of it has been neutral, which I think is interesting.

[C]

Trump's posting.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm, I'm almost as amazed that it not getting more attention. I mean, it doesn't even hardly stand out in our current climate.

[B]

Well, and it's not like it's the first time he said anything. Completely unhinged, right?

[C]

Well, yeah, yeah. You combine the fact that when somebody is brutally murdered, if you didn't like their politics, you cheer. Not everybody, not most people, not, you know, a tiny minority, but enough people for it to be disturbing, combined with the things that all our politicians say. No, it doesn't even hardly ring the bell, but it is something from a President of the United States. Rob Reiner and his wife were passed away in their home. Passed away is an interesting phrase for people that were stabbed to death, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as Trump Derangement syndrome. So he believes somebody so angered by Rob Reiner's views of Trump came in and killed him or he saw that.

[B]

On somebody's social media account and went with it.

[C]

Yeah, it had nothing to do with it, actually. Just for the record, even if it had been specifically somebody. What, you're blaming Rob Reiner?

[B]

Condemning it?

[C]

Yeah, wholeheartedly. Yeah. Okay. That. It's just where we are. I don't know what to do about it. Let the pendulum swing back. Or maybe it won't. Ever.

[B]

Hard to say.

[C]

I do at some point want to hear about your new view on AI and art which you you you. Lots of stories we got to update you on because there's a lot of fast moving stuff happening today.

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Armstrong and Getty 10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract worth $250,000.

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This is where mindset comes in.

[A]

Someone will be eliminated. Pressure is coming down.

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[B]

Color of the year is Cloud Dancer.

[C]

Which they call a billowy balanced white imbued with a feeling of serenity. A description they stole from my old bumble profile. I thought that was a funny joke. Plus the fact that there's a color of the year.

[B]

The whole. As a person involved in a remodel of a home at this point, I'll tell you, the whole hot color thing is annoying.

[C]

Here's.

[B]

Here's a little pro tip for you. Unless you're willing to have your house repainted every couple of years, if you go with the hot color, it will be the oh my God, that color is so out color before you know it.

[C]

Yeah, like in the blink of an eye. Yeah.

[B]

So beware, beware. Coming up. I don't know, next hour, maybe tomorrow. I can't remember. It doesn't matter. We'll get to it eventually. But I want to retell to you one of the oldest stories that you've heard. A time honored story. A story you've heard over and over again. In that time Caesar Augustus ordered that woke cities should try rent control. See what happens. Well, Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota have taken opposite approaches to rent control. And you will be completely unshocked by the outcome of that little experiment right there on either side of a river.

[C]

For some reason never occurred to me before, but St. Paul is obviously named after St. Paul. Saul of Tarsus.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Really? Pretty much the spreader of the entire Christian thing. St. Paul, of all places. About as woke a town as you could come up with.

[B]

Yeah, but not as woke as their big brother, Minneapolis, Jack. As we'll learn. Anyway. So I thought this was interesting, the question of rage baiting, which is intentionally posting something to social media that, you know, will anger people.

[C]

What was the one last week? It was a joke that we used a couple of times. It was about Christmas or Santa. It was a rage bait thing. It was very, very funny. It'll pop into my head.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, just jump in when it does. Do you remember Katie? Well, I remember it was saying, like, something like posting I hate Santa.

[C]

Yeah. Something about just. Yeah, just to make people mad.

[B]

Yeah. It's beyond, like, a strong opinion. It's intentionally trying to anger people. And interestingly enough, that was the word of the year by the Oxford University Press. I have no idea what their color of the year was, but their word or term of the year was rage bait. And, you know, at first blush, as a human being, you might think that it's not a great idea to post content that antagonizes people. Right. I mean, imagine that's how you behaved at, like, cocktail parties and Christmas gatherings. But people who post content on social media make more money if their channel has high levels of engagement, regardless of how positive, positively people might be responding. And in addition, they're writing in this piece. Social media platforms use algorithms that tailor the content we see to what we are likely to engage with, whether positively or negatively. And so that doesn't necessarily mean they feed us content that make us happy. It just any engagement, including angry comments we might post in response because they make more money that way, which is really insidious.

[C]

Sure, we gotta fix this. We cannot survive this if we don't fix it.

[B]

Right, right. But this article, interestingly, is from the point of view of psychologists. Things you can do to help control your reaction to this sort of content. But first you have to understand why rage bait is so effective. And it's funny. This is kind of a variation on something we've been talking about for years and years, about how nobody's ever tuned out from, you're in danger, or that's the number one way, or this will make you angry. Provocative posts can result in a higher number of clips. This may be a result of negativity bias, where negative emotions, such as anger, spread more quickly and intensely through social networks. Okay, we've seen that. But in evolutionary terms, it's more important for us to pay attention to a situation that has caused anger to our group than to a situation that has created happiness.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Anger suggests that action needs to be taken to resolve an issue. Whereas happiness suggests that everything is okay. There is no evolutionary need to respond urgently to everything is okay.

[C]

Obviously.

[B]

In other words. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

You know, that's obvious. But it helps with why you get this way or I get this way. Yeah, it's a protective mechanism.

[B]

Yeah. So let's see, we're probably looking for social information.

[C]

I am better than I was even a couple of months ago at recognizing when I see something on our text line or Twitter feed or whatever. It's like, okay, you're just trying to. I see what you're trying to do.

[B]

Yeah, troll. So we're primed to look for social information, obviously. And you know, another variation on the theme we've talked about a lot in the past. The groups we belong to were typically local to where we lived. Friends, neighbors, colleagues. But growth social media means we can now connect with people from all over the world. That's another perfect time to play the PGA Rourke quote.

[C]

What a giant change in my lifetime. How many a holes were you exposed to pre Internet in your, in your, in your social circuit or your life? A handful. As opposed to. You could name them all and you ignored them or stayed away from them as opposed to every a hole on earth now. Right.

[B]

So that means there are far more groups we can be part of and in turn roots through which people can anger us. Research has also found that people can be quick to align their views with others on anything that prompts a negative emotion. We've mentioned years and years ago, people bond more quickly over what they don't like than over what they like or what they, they bond over what they hate.

[C]

That's why, you know, talk radio complaining about stuff you know, tends to do better than happy, happy, joy, joy.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's true to some extent. Although a lot of the things we talk about, I mean, where are you going to find the happy, happy, joy, joy in politics? I mean. Brett Baron.

[C]

No, no, no, no. That's. That's a reason to not talk about politics at all.

[B]

Oh yeah, I hear that. Let's see, the other problem is we can post content or comments immediately, get a reply 24 hours a day, non stop. Typically we used to have breaks from anything or anyone that caused us a feeling of rage. It would be extremely rare unless you live, you know, in a dysfunctional family or dysfunctional workplace or something like that. But anyway, so knowing that many of the posts are posted solely to drive engagement helps us reclaim our power over these interactions. A 2020 study showed that giving people an understanding of manipulation techniques and the media empowered them to resist those techniques.

[C]

Well, like the story you always tell of one of your kids saying haters are going to hate that. The younger generation.

[B]

First time I heard that phrase. Yeah.

[C]

The younger generation has picked up on this faster than us older people because, you know, for all the reasons you just stated, we didn't grow up around non stop haters.

[B]

Yeah. You know, maybe the simplified version of this is you look at stuff like that and say, oh, they're desperate for attention and they're trying to bait me.

[C]

Yeah, sorry. I was trying to explain that to my son. He's got a. A problem with a. An individual and their personality who they. Every time he explains to me what this person does and says, they're just trying to get a reaction out of you, or they. They don't get any attention at home or something that, I mean, they're just wanting attention. It just, you know, them saying they hate what you like is an attempt to, you know, get some sort of attention. Reaction out of you. And that's just. That's just who they are.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's hard for him to digest.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't even know how I developed this. Even as like a teenager, I realized the value of somebody says something like that to you if you can just fix them with the dead eyes and show a complete lack of reaction.

[C]

The dead eyes, that's like.

[B]

It's like a superpower.

[C]

The dead eyes.

[B]

Because people are trying to get power over you. Right.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

To provoke you, to get you on the hook. And if you can give them the. I heard everything you said and you're getting nothing out of me. Oh, please. They wither like a violent winner or something. I got. I don't give a metaphor. Something that withers. Yeah. Something withery. Anyway. Yeah. Give him the dead eyes.

[C]

I've gotten the dead eyes before.

[B]

Yes, Michael, you have. You've earned them. I'm not amused by you. I'm not angered by you. I'm not provoked by you. I'm bored by you. That's what the dead.

[C]

Oh, I'm bored by you. That's a good one.

[B]

Yeah. My dead eyes speak volumes, Jack. And so does the gift of Omaha Steak.

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[C]

So raising money for scouting this week. We'll explain why later. If you haven't already heard that, you'll like this. Katie, we got $25 from Jack, Joe, Mike. Mike, that is your unborn child.

[B]

Teaching him to give early.

[C]

Teaching him to get. Okay, gotcha.

[B]

That's good parenting.

[C]

Got 100 bucks from Marshall. Second push up, which is pretty funny. Marshall Phillips, our old news guy, who's his new year's resolution was to do 10 push ups and he never got to two. Is that right?

[B]

That's right. Never got past two. I don't think there was a second push up. The second one was controversial.

[C]

Oh, my God. This is pre you, Katie. Marshall, he's older. He was an older guy, but I thought that when he set out at the beginning of the year, my new year's resolution is to do 10 push ups. I didn't know if he'd ever do 10 push ups, but I would have certainly guessed that he'd get seven or eight. He never got two.

[B]

And we'd ever.

[C]

Every once in a while we'd have him get down on the floor in the studio. See, I could do the push ups.

[B]

Part of that makes me sad. Well, then he hurt his shoulder and.

[C]

He ended up in the hospital. He actually ended up injured. Oh, God. That was quite the deal. Mom of four girls need Eagle Scout to marry. One donated 25. That's very nice.

[B]

Maybe we could hold some sort of, I don't know, matchmaking festival.

[C]

50.

[B]

Arrange a few marriages. Why not?

[C]

50 bucks from, you know, your judo.

[B]

Well, which is funny.

[C]

People love that clip. That was a long time ago.

[B]

That's one of the greatest clips of all time.

[C]

Anyway, Gladys, take your little arms and hit the snare drum, would you? Here's the total. $17,414. $17,000.

[B]

It's a good start.

[C]

Yeah, we just started this a couple hours ago. Obviously we're shooting for a lot more than that. I couldn't be more amazed with scouting and what it does for young people, turning them into grownups, which we don't do much of anymore. In fact, it seems like our we have a whole of country effort to.

[B]

Do the opposite to keep grown ups and leaders and patriots.

[C]

We seem to be dedicated to making sure young people stay immature, irresponsible and delusioned for some reason.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, well said.

[C]

Wild. Anyway, a lot more on the way. Stay here.

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[B]

Rivers.

[C]

That'S Josh.

[B]

Downs and that's Philip Rivers with a touchdown pass. 422nd touchdown pass of his why are.

[C]

We playing clips from 10 years ago NFL games.

[B]

Hilarious. That was actually sound from Philip Rivers high school team teammates viewing party of their old teammate five years retired from the NFL coming back inexplicably or inexplicably rather to play again. And so they held a big viewing party to watch him play and he actually played pretty well.

[C]

Well he retired five years ago. When was his prime? So his prime was a decade ago. He's 44 years old, he's got 10 kids. He's a grandparent.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And it's really. It was a great story. I mean, the whole football world was buzzing about it. How could you not find that compelling?

[C]

And.

[B]

And again, he actually played pretty well. Jason Gay of the Wall Street Junior Journal wrote a really funny piece about it. He says they rebooted Matlock. Why not Philip Rivers? Then he goes into how long it's been since he played. This wasn't like summoning the grizzled backup from the third string. This was like thawing Han Solo off the wall. And then he talked about how everybody was watching, just hoping his old body wasn't broken in half. And where's the funny. In the pocket. He moved like a man trying to make a sandwich in the dark.

[C]

That's an interesting description.

[B]

We're kind of wobbly. At one point, stepping back to pass, he fell over without anyone touching him, like your uncle does. Every Fourth of July party just tumbled over like a picnic bench.

[C]

Did that actually happen?

[B]

Yeah, I guess. But so anyway, yeah, he was good friends with his former coaches, the head coach, Indianapolis, and he knew the offense, so they lost their starter, lost their backup, and the guy thought, I wonder if old Phil's still in pretty decent shape. And this was Philip Rivers after the game, you know, maybe.

[C]

Maybe it will, I don't know, inspire or teach, you know, not to run.

[B]

Or be scared of what may or may not happen.

[C]

You know, hopefully. You know, certainly I think of my sons and those ballplayers, you know, that I'm in charge of at the school.

[B]

That they'll say, like, crap, coach wasn't scared. You know what I mean?

[C]

It's like, shoot, sometimes you.

[B]

There is doubt and it's real.

[C]

And you. Again, you can. You can. The guaranteed safe bet is to. Is to go home or to not go for it. And the other one is, shoot, let's see what happens, you know? And so, yeah, I hope that in that sense that it can. It can be a positive to some young boys, you know, or young people.

[B]

Not just me boys.

[C]

Cool. We like that. Especially the week we're raising money for scouting. That's a good sort of message. Go out and try something. Do something.

[B]

He was old enough to be Drake May's Paw Paw. That's one of the young stars to remember Rotary phones, to read long books about World War I and have absolutely no idea what six, seven means. Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

That was fun. That was fun.

[C]

I. So there just aren't very many people that can play quarterback, period. Though that can really play it at a decent level. I remember hearing experts talk about like one of the secrets of the NFL that people don't want to say out out loud is every year there's really only like out of 30 teams, however many teams there are 32 teams, there's really only like eight to 10 guys that are really capable of being an NFL quarterback at any given time. That's why the really good ones get to play so long.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Aaron Rodgers or, you know, Brett Favre, Tom Brady or whoever's. Just not many people can do that. The combination of the physical need and the mental game. They call it the hardest job in all of sports. Mentally. It's just not very many people can.

[B]

Do it if you get a chance. Netflix documentary Quarterback, which follows three quarterbacks through the season. They've got a couple of seasons of it. In the first season, Peyton Manning explains what happens between breaking the huddle and the snap of the ball. And it takes paragraphs which ought to tell you something about reading defense, canceling the play, shifting players, et cetera. All in space like 10 seconds. It's really quite cool. But anyway, good for Philip Rivers. I'm glad he didn't get killed.

[C]

Well, you know that concept you always hear about in sports and particularly with quarterbacks, is that the. As they. When you're in the league for a while, the game slows down.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Which is. I've always thought that's interesting, you know, just from the way your mind works. And I got a good example of that playing music. I have this all the happen all the time. If you're playing along to a metronome and you're playing the parts, you know, it just seems so slow and easy. And then as soon as you get to the part that you don't quite know, it seems like the time sped up really, really fast. And it's funny that that's the way the mind works.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When we know something, things seem to move slower than we're get into a gotta make decisions. It feels like time speeds up or the other way around, if you understand it. Time slows down.

[B]

Yeah. It is interesting.

[C]

I guess that's. So what is it with the opposite thing with the car crash though? We've all had that experience, whether you're falling down or a car wreck or where like time slows down and seems like it's happening.

[B]

Well. Right. I think because you in your animal brain, you know, I have to be completely aware in this moment because it's life and deathy and that's what it feels to play quarterback, certainly in the NFL, where you have the fastest, biggest, strongest behemoths in the world trying to knock your block off. And so it is semi terrifying, and I think that's part of it. But once it, once you know it, you've done it enough times and you know that you've seen that a hundred times, so you don't have to contemplate that, whatever that is. You just know. Okay, that's fine.

[C]

If you didn't hear our interview about scouting to kick off Hour two, get that in the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand help pretty explain pretty well while we're raising money this week and we are go to armstrongandgetti.com it's pretty easy to donate more on the way. Stay here.

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