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Armstrong
The dull, flat truth of everyday life. It's one more thing. Armstrong and Getty. One more thing.
Getty
Is that our mission statement?
Armstrong
That was one of my favorite quotes from, I think, William Faulkner about why he drank as much as he did. He drank himself to death, but he did not like the dull, flat truth of everyday life without a couple of drinks.
Getty
I get it.
Armstrong
Yeah, exactly. You all get it. Which is really Shane Gillis point and the fake ad they had on Saturday Night Live. We'll play this first and then discuss.
Shane Gillis
You wouldn't know it, but a few months ago, anxiety and depression were ruining my life. I was struggling at work, I was struggling as a father.
Getty
Gah.
Shane Gillis
Come on, Andrew, you can't be bad at school and sports and struggling as a husband.
Getty
I'm upset because my mom's doctor thinks that we should move her into an assisted living place.
Shane Gillis
That's awesome. I was at a real low point. That's when I talked to my doctor about couple of beers. A couple of beers is a revolutionary medicine that treats anxiety and depression fast. And within minutes of taking it, I'm back to my old self. Andrew, I love you, buddy. You're the best in the whole world. And my confidence is through the roof. Jay, you look freaking hot, man. You've been doing, like, Pilates.
Katie
Excuse me?
Shane Gillis
Oh, sorry. I'm just having a tough time adjusting to my new medication. So the way it works is simple. Couple of beers quickly turns a cloudy rainy day into a sunny one. It's that easy. Now I'm the me I want to be. A couple of beers is a clinically proven treatment for conditions like boredom, depression, winter museum hangovers affair, and moderate to severe Italian wife. And if you miss, the most common side effect of a couple of beers is drowsiness. So you may want to ask your doctor about a little bump. The way a little bump works is simple. Once the drowsiness of a couple beers sets in, you simply take a little bump and let the medication do its thing.
Armstrong
I particularly like a couple of beers will help with, you know, morning springtime museum.
Getty
Yeah, yeah. Wow. I like museum. Yeah, yeah. Your confidence will be back. Wow, Jenna, you're looking freaking hot.
Armstrong
Well, and he goes from his. His wife sitting there on the couch, stories about her mom. And he just couldn't stand listening to her until he was actually, you know, able to pay attention and be kind.
Getty
Of pleasant after a couple of beers.
Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's just. There's just too much reality that for many people, I think, for that. Well, that's why it's funny.
Getty
Yeah. Especially, I mean, what would happen if the introverts of the world were all denied any social lubricant? I mean, I know how it's affected your.
Armstrong
Well, I know.
Getty
I know for me, data, two kids. So you're too busy to do a lot of, like, social stuff.
Armstrong
I wouldn't do it anyway, so I know what it's done for me. For one thing. Thing. Because I don't drink. I haven't had a drink in 18 and a half years. I would put myself in social situations I didn't want to be in and drink to handle them. I just don't do them anymore. I hated them. I didn't want to be at them. So I just don't. Which has helped a lot. I don't know why I did so often in the first place. It's not something I want to do a lot of those things. Yes, Katie.
Katie
No, I'm listening to you. I'm also thinking about all of the situations where I absolutely take a shot at tequila before I attend.
Getty
So, yeah, it's funny. This was a great help to me years and years ago. And if I'd known we were going to be talking about this, I would have grabbed the quote Thomas Jefferson wrote once describing how his natural inclination is toward being a loner. He was an introvert, and he would much prefer to be by himself reading or writing or, you know, working or maybe with one close friend and. But he realized if he indulged that part of his personality, he started to become weird and angry because. And the reason it hit me is because that's me. Exactly. I am more than happy to do solitary stuff for days, weeks at a time. But then I realized I get all hermody and weird and lose connection with people I care about and maybe just.
Armstrong
Need a slave girlfriend to cheer you up.
Getty
All right, that was a cheap shot. And beneath you. Wait a minute. Nothing. Anyway, and so, as a person so inclined, Jefferson was known to sip a bit of the Madeira, Spanish wine or something like that. In fact, he ran up so much debt importing stuff like that from Europe, he couldn't pay his debts. But, yeah, so. And I have activities and groups and stuff that I'm a part of, but I don't want to say I dread them because I enjoy them, but it's not comfortable to do them. But you get there, you have a quick drinky poo, and all of a sudden it's like, hey, this is fine. It's great. It's fun. These are Nice, fellas.
Armstrong
You think Jefferson got, like, halfway through the Declaration of Independence? Not. I just don't feel like finishing this.
Getty
God, if Madison hits me with, we don't need a bill. Right. One more time, I'm gonna Fox's ears.
Armstrong
Then he had a couple of beers and everything was fine.
Getty
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Armstrong
Perfect.
Getty
Although the. The end of that commercial, there. There was a couple aspects of that commercial which were bracingly honest about the downside and side effects of using that as a crutch in life. Certainly.
Armstrong
Or, yeah, if you go too far. That's the problem with the whole couple of beers thing for some of us is it's. It's hard to not do it always or take it way beyond a couple.
Getty
Right.
Katie
Totally.
Getty
I don't seem to be progressive guy, which is lucky for me as a alcohol enthusiast my entire life. But I think about the evening and I will give up drinking for spans of time just to make sure I can and that I still know how to wind down for bed without, you know, getting my drink on. But if it's not one of those nights, if it's going to be one of those nights where I have my scotch or maybe even a glass of wine with dinner or whatever, I really look forward to it. And, you know, it may not show. I actually work a lot at this job, probably too much. It makes me insane. And I really look forward to that. And it makes me happy thinking about it. But I'd love to. I wish they could, like, you know, take a swab out of your cheek or something and say, oh, you've done 20, 41% damage to your health and are going to die X number of years prematurely because you won't put down the bottle.
Katie
Why do you want to know that?
Armstrong
Yeah.
Katie
Bliss in that. I don't want to know.
Getty
Now, I'm the world's greatest fan of realism. I want to know exactly what I'm putting in my body.
Armstrong
What do you think? You think you would change behavior based on that?
Getty
I might, yeah. I mean, for instance, if they said, yeah, you feel great today, but you're going to have a devastating stroke in March in.
Armstrong
Well, yeah.
Getty
Yeah, Right. Just as a month away. What if it was in two years? Yeah, I'd want to know that.
Armstrong
What if it's probably more realistically that, you know, maybe you lose, I don't know. Instead of dying at 89, you die at 87. Yeah. I'm gonna change your behavior for that. I wouldn't.
Getty
Right? Yeah. Especially if those last two years are the really Difficult, Painful for everybody. Barely hanging on.
Armstrong
Yeah. People. Because you ain' got a couple of beers.
Getty
All right. Right. I would love.
Armstrong
That'd be fantastic. Maybe someday with AI they'll be able to figure all that out where everything will have that on the label. You know, you eat this candy bar, you just shaved, I don't know, 45 seconds off your life or something. I don't like.
Katie
I don't like this world we're creating right now.
Getty
I'm eating it.
Armstrong
It'll be like the calorie thing, you know, you go, you get a muffin. It works on me. The calorie thing. Definitely. I go to Starbucks and I think, I think I'll get a muffin at 450 calories ain't worth that.
Getty
Those muffins designed for what? To feed an elementary school. They're so enormous and dense.
Armstrong
But if it said it'll cut five minutes off your life. But it'd be pretty easy to say five minutes. What do I care?
Getty
All sorts of different philosophies too. I mean, the body is a temple, you know, God has built it. You should honor it. That's one philosophy I respect. But a lot of my greatest think favorite thinkers from H.L. mencken to Thomas Jefferson, all sorts of different from people were 100% on the. Yeah, I could live a life of complete discipline and sobriety, but what the hell's the point of that? Yeah, let's enjoy ourselves. It's a short ride. Goodness.
Katie
Everything in moderation.
Armstrong
Exactly.
Getty
Exactly. If you can do that with that for now.
Andrew
I keep thinking if I knew how many toes I could lose by eating sweets. Like if it was only two, but I could eat for 20 years.
Armstrong
Yeah, because you're afraid you're going to lose your whole foot.
Andrew
Right. I don't want to do that. But. But a toe or two I could still get around.
Armstrong
Like your ring toe?
Andrew
Yeah, something like that.
Getty
You gotta judge it on toe by toe basis.
Shane Gillis
Exactly.
Getty
Every toe is created equal.
Andrew
Something to think about. Well, I guess that's it.
Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "The Dull Flat Truth of Everyday Life"
Episode Details:
Introduction
In the episode titled "The Dull Flat Truth of Everyday Life," Armstrong and Getty delve into the monotonous realities that often plague daily living and explore the various ways individuals cope with these challenges. The conversation intertwines humor, personal anecdotes, and societal observations to present a comprehensive look at the human experience.
1. The "Couple of Beers" SNL Fake Ad
The episode kicks off with a discussion about a satirical advertisement featured on Saturday Night Live, which stars comedian Shane Gillis. Armstrong introduces the ad by referencing a favorite William Faulkner quote:
“He drank himself to death, but he did not like the dull, flat truth of everyday life without a couple of drinks.” — Armstrong [00:09]
Shane Gillis' Ad Breakdown
The ad parodies the notion of using alcohol as a quick fix for life's stresses. In the clip, Shane Gillis humorously advertises "a couple of beers" as a revolutionary medicine for anxiety and depression, claiming it can instantly uplift one's mood:
“A couple of beers is a clinically proven treatment for conditions like boredom, depression, winter museum hangovers affair, and moderate to severe Italian wife.” — Shane Gillis [01:14]
2. Alcohol as a Coping Mechanism
Armstrong and Getty analyze the ad's portrayal of alcohol as a social lubricant and a coping strategy. Getty expresses frustration about personal circumstances, relating them humorously to the ad's messaging:
“I’m upset because my mom’s doctor thinks that we should move her into an assisted living place.” — Getty [00:46]
This segues into a broader discussion about relying on alcohol to navigate social situations and personal struggles.
3. Historical Perspectives on Introversion and Socialization
Getty brings historical context into the conversation by mentioning Thomas Jefferson's struggles with introversion:
“Jefferson was known to sip a bit of the Madeira, Spanish wine or something like that. In fact, he ran up so much debt importing stuff like that from Europe, he couldn’t pay his debts.” — Getty [03:33]
This reference underscores the timeless nature of using substances to manage social discomfort and the potential long-term consequences of such habits.
4. The Benefits and Drawbacks of Alcohol
The hosts weigh the pros and cons of using alcohol as a social tool. Armstrong shares his personal choice to abstain from drinking for the past 18.5 years:
“I haven’t had a drink in 18 and a half years. I would put myself in social situations I didn’t want to be in and drink to handle them. I just don’t do them anymore.” — Armstrong [03:01]
Conversely, Getty discusses his appreciation for alcohol and the difficulty in moderating consumption:
“I want to know exactly what I’m putting in my body. I might, yeah. I mean, for instance, if they said, yeah, you feel great today, but you’re going to have a devastating stroke in March in… I’d want to know that.” — Getty [07:12]
5. The Concept of Health Labels Affecting Behavior
The conversation takes a speculative turn as the hosts imagine a world where products come with precise life-impacting labels. Armstrong muses about AI enabling such transparency:
“Maybe someday with AI they’ll be able to figure all that out where everything will have that on the label. You know, you eat this candy bar, you just shaved, I don’t know, 45 seconds off your life or something.” — Armstrong [08:01]
This idea sparks a debate on personal choice versus informed decision-making, highlighting the tension between enjoying life and maintaining health.
6. Philosophical Views on Moderation and Enjoyment
Getty references various philosophical stances on indulgence and moderation, emphasizing the balance between discipline and enjoyment:
“All my favorite thinkers from H.L. Mencken to Thomas Jefferson, all sorts of different different [people] were 100% on the, yeah, I could live a life of complete discipline and sobriety, but what the hell’s the point of that? Yeah, let’s enjoy ourselves. It’s a short ride. Goodness.” — Getty [08:35]
Katie adds to this by advocating for moderation:
“Everything in moderation.” — Katie [09:07]
7. Closing Thoughts
As the episode wraps up, Armstrong and Getty reflect on the complexities of balancing personal well-being with societal expectations. They acknowledge the humorous yet poignant insights derived from the SNL ad and their ensuing discussion on alcohol's role in everyday life.
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Conclusion
"The Dull Flat Truth of Everyday Life" offers a thoughtful yet humorous exploration of how individuals navigate the mundanity of daily existence. Through personal stories, historical anecdotes, and cultural critiques, Armstrong and Getty provide listeners with relatable content that encourages reflection on personal habits and societal norms.