The Extent To Which We're Bubbled

Summary

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Episode: The Extent To Which We're Bubbled
Date: June 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dig into the idea of “bubbles” — how we’re siloed into communities of thought and culture, often unaware of just how different others’ perspectives can be. They discuss recent events highlighting America’s social divides, controversial crime stories, dysfunctional urban policies, and even dip into memorable graduation advice from tennis legend Roger Federer. The tone is classic A&G: irreverent, blunt, and thoughtful, running the gamut from darkly comic to sincerely reflective.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Crime, Race, and Social Divides

• Dallas Track Meet Murder Case

  • A teen (Carmelo Anthony, black) stabbed and killed another teen (Austin Metcalf, white) after a shoving altercation.
  • Despite claims of self-defense, Armstrong and Getty stress the presence of a knife and escalation make "self-defense" an absurd argument.
  • Racial tensions erupted around the trial, with families and media racializing the event (04:42 – 07:31).
  • Jack Armstrong: “The idea that that was legitimate self defense is just. It's… self evidently ridiculous.” (04:17)
  • Joe Getty: “It was so discouraging watching the news last night. You had the reaction outside the courthouse, rival groups screaming at each other's faces.” (05:54)
  • They lament the polarization and inability to see beyond group lines, decrying the lack of rational thought in courthouse protests.

• Immigration, Violence, and Political Extremes

  • Armstrong references recent violence in Britain connected to immigration, drawing parallels to how political extremes become attractive when “mainstream” refuses to address uncomfortable truths.
  • Jack Armstrong: “If only extremist, quote unquote groups talk about the real problems the people are feeling, people will gravitate to those groups.” (08:04 – 09:03)

2. Urban Policy Follies

• Seattle 'Tiny Homes' for Homeless
  • Critique of Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson’s bid to build 1,000 tiny homes, but only 50 completed so far — each the size of a porta-potty, lacking bathrooms, and doubted by both advocates and critics.
  • Joe Getty: “Supposed to build a thousand. Before the soccer match started, they got 50. There's 70 square feet, which isn't very many, and equipped with just a single bed and a desk. I thought a desk—well, so you can fill out your resumes?” (14:59)
  • Both hosts are deeply skeptical: “They're just gonna pee and poop in them and do drugs in them and they're gonna get destroyed and nothing will get accomplished.” (15:30)

3. The Extent to Which We're 'Bubbled'

• Robbie Suave vs. Ezra Klein: Bubbles of Thought
  • Robbie Suave (Reason Magazine) can’t relate to NYT’s Ezra Klein, who says the most common question he gets: “Should I have kids given the climate crisis?” or “…knowing they will contribute to it?”
    • Neither Armstrong nor Getty have encountered that sentiment in their lives.
    • Joe Getty: “None of us know the extent to which we are bubbled, but we're all bubbled a little bit. I try really hard not to be because of this job.” (16:53)
    • They marvel over the alien-ness of some progressive culture bubbles:
      • Jack Armstrong: “It's like you're describing… some native culture with plates in their lips…” (18:33)
    • Getty: “If you weren't an atheist, which you probably are, you should get down on your knees and thank God that your life is so pleasant and easy that you can worry about whether or not you should eat red meat or use a chatbot..." (19:16)

4. Foreign Policy - Iran Incident

• Trump’s Response to Iran:
  • Apache helicopter shot down—hosts question if Trump’s verbal and military response has been adequate, hope it's just a preliminary “shaping operation.”
  • Joe Getty: “They landed the helicopter in the water… thinking, this is going to explode any second. We're going to be dead.” (21:08)

5. Life Advice - Roger Federer's Graduation Speech (26:23 – 28:49)

• Federer passionately details how even the greatest athletes only win slightly more than half their points, teaching himself to focus intently on what’s in front of him and let go immediately once it's over.

  • Notable Quote (26:23):

    "When you're playing a point, it has to be the most important thing in the world... But when it's behind you, it's behind you. This mindset is really crucial because it frees you to fully commit to the next point and the next point after that with intensity, clarity, and focus."

• A&G’s Reflection:

  • Joe Getty: “That's something I've been terrible at my whole life, and I hope I can get better at… The event that I'm just—whatever happened in my life, big or small... anything need to learn from that or remember, okay, now let's go forward. It's over.” (28:16)
  • Jack Armstrong: “The future happens while you're stewing about the past.” (29:00)

6. Sports, Money, and Fandom

• Most Expensive NBA Game Tickets Ever
  • Discussion about who actually goes to insanely expensive games: celebrities, tech bros, real fans who are “bad with money.” (25:13, 30:10)
• Sports Fan Culture and ‘Status’
  • Why do some fans spend fortunes on tickets? It’s about cachet, storytelling, and lifelong identity—even if it’s irrational. (31:58 – 32:24)
• Experience of Luxury vs. 'Riffraff' Sports Attendance
  • Jack recounts suite life versus “best memories” with “the riffraff.”
  • Joe Getty: “Anytime I'm urinating in a trough, I think I am home. This is—this is me. This is my life. I love this.” (35:12)

7. Property Rights, Annoying Neighbors, and Vigilance

• Wyoming Data Center Boom

  • Landowners lose their natural views as massive “temporary towns” for data center laborers spring up (38:27 – 39:43).

• Wisconsin Beach Property Feud

  • Feuding over public vs. private access to Lake Michigan beachfront; some states protect public access, others do not.
  • Joe Getty: “So much of it would be about degree—guy quietly walking his dog through once a day, who cares? People camping there… would be a different thing.” (41:58)

• Life Lessons from Not Policing Others’ Behavior

  • Jack decides not to waste energy watching for cheaters in golf:
    • “Let them cheat. F them. I’m gonna enjoy myself.” (43:28)
  • Joe: “I've become very comfortable with being mediocre.” (44:38)

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

• On being ‘bubbled’:

  • Joe Getty (16:53): “None of us know the extent to which we are bubbled, but we're all bubbled a little bit. I try really hard not to be because of this job.”
  • Jack Armstrong (18:33): “It's like you're describing… some native culture with plates in their lips… It’s so foreign. It’s crazy.”

• On climate anxiety:

  • Joe Getty (19:16): “If you weren't an atheist, which you probably are, you should get down on your knees and thank God that your life is so pleasant and easy that you can worry about whether or not you should eat red meat or use a chatbot…”

• Life lesson from Federer:

  • Roger Federer (26:23): “When you’re playing a point, it has to be the most important thing in the world... But when it’s behind you, it’s behind you. This mindset is really crucial because it frees you to fully commit to the next point and the next point after that with intensity, clarity, and focus.”

• On fans, money, and meaning:

  • Jack Armstrong (32:14): “The cachet I get from saying, yeah, I was behind the plate in game seven, people like, wow, dude.”
  • Joe Getty (35:12): “Anytime I’m urinating in a trough, I think I am home. This is—this is me. This is my life. I love this.”

• On not policing others' faults:

  • Jack Armstrong (43:28): "Let him cheat. F them. I'm gonna enjoy myself."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:24 – Dallas Track Meet Murder: Facts & Outrage
• 05:53 – Racial Tensions & Media Framing
• 08:03 – UK Immigration Violence & Political Extremes
• 14:59 – Seattle 'Tiny Homes' and Urban Policy Skepticism
• 16:18 – The “Bubble” Discussion: Suave vs. Klein
• 19:16 – Satirizing Climate Crisis Anxiety
• 21:08 – Trump’s Iran Dilemma & Risky Helicopter Landing
• 26:23 – Roger Federer’s Graduation Advice
• 30:10 – Sports Spending & Fandom Culture
• 35:12 – “Trough” Reflections & Sports Attendance
• 38:27 – Wyoming Data Center Boom
• 41:58 – Wisconsin Beach Property Rights Feud
• 43:28 – Golf Cheating & Not Policing Others

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Final Thoughts

• Michael (Control Room): "I've gotten very good at messing up and just forgetting about it." (44:37)
• Jack: "The key to being an idiot is not wishing you're not an idiot. It's crafting your life to minimize the impact of your idiocy."
• Joe: “Most major sporting events should be legally required to be free on TV…that makes you a—It's unworkable. And that's why democracy will fail.” (44:58)

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Summary Tone:
Candid, sardonic, and insightful. Armstrong and Getty move fluidly between gallows humor, cultural critique, and genuine advice for everyday living. The show captures both the exasperations and ironies of modern American life—reminding listeners how easy it is to become “bubbled,” and how much we gain from learning to let go of the points we lost.

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And now here's Armstrong And Getty. The trial centered around a track meet in a Dallas suburb last year, when Anthony walked under a tent belonging to Metcalf's team. After Anthony was repeatedly asked to leave, police say Metcalf pushed him and then Anthony pulled out a knife, stabbing him in the chest. Metcalf died in the arms of his twin brother. Defense attorneys argued Anthony acted in self defense, but prosecutors called it murder, plain and simple. Saying you can meet a shove with a shove, but you don't get to meet a shove with a stab.

[Joe Getty]

Well, prosecutors and jurors yesterday said it was murder, plain and simple.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, incredibly unfortunate trial. Seven days long, three hours of deliberation. Murder, you know, clearly murder.

[Joe Getty]

So you go to a track meet and you're gonna go into the other team's tent to like, try to be intimidating or whatever. You bring a knife with you. A knife with you to track me.

[Jack Armstrong]

His intent? Well, yeah, the first part, maybe he was just looking for a place to sit and decided, I'm gonna sit under this team's tent. And they asked him to leave. But yeah, he had a deadly weapon with him at a track meet. And then as soon as he was asked to leave, he said, you touch me, you're gonna find out. And he reached into his bag, which

[Joe Getty]

meant that was like his go to

[Jack Armstrong]

when guys were saying, you gotta get out of here. And then finally the guy shoved him and he did find out with a stab wound to the heart. And the idea that that was legitimate self defense is just. It's. It's self evidently ridiculous. Well, it's very sad because this is a teenager who I have a feeling thought he was being a tough guy, thought he was going to be a gangster or whatever, and. And by God, his life is over. Well, certainly the victim's life is over.

[Joe Getty]

So is the kid that got stabbed to death. We haven't mentioned that there's a race issue to this racial component, which makes the whole thing as jazzy as it got. You got a black kid and a white kid, and immediately the families turned it racial. A lot of the media turned it racial. And there were the family and the

[Jack Armstrong]

lawyers, raised a tremendous amount of money by making it racialized.

[Joe Getty]

Carmelo Anthony's mom shouts racist as RILES up crowd as she leaves the court after the verdict. Jasmine Crockett, as we mentioned last hour, black congressperson from Texas suggests she would have stabbed Austin Metcalf in stunning defense of Carmelo Anthony. I would have also stabbed him because he said, get out. You didn't, and then shoved you She's

[Jack Armstrong]

a racist and a monstrous human being.

[Joe Getty]

Stabbed somebody to death over that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely ugly. So it was so discouraging watching the news last night.

[Joe Getty]

It was.

[Jack Armstrong]

You had the reaction outside the courthouse, rival groups screaming at each other's faces. Most if not all of the, the conviction was righteous, folks being white and all the people angry about the conviction were black. 23. Michael.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sick. I'm sick.

[Jack Armstrong]

As a jury considered punishment for 19 year old Carmelo Anthony who claimed he killed 17 year old Austin Metcalfe in self defense, emotions flared on the courthouse steps.

[Joe Getty]

I just feel like there was so much that wasn't taken into consideration. It was so fast, a sad outcome. But justice was served.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anthony is black, Metcalf was white. The jury last night handed CARMELO ANTHONY A 35 year prison term.

[Joe Getty]

35 years. Well, first degree murder ought to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. A lot of those people, I, I look at them and I think you or I listen to them and I think you lack the capacity for rational thought. So I'm not going to stand on a courthouse lawn and yell at you and try to convince you of something that just don't have the capacity for rational thought. What are you going to do?

[Joe Getty]

I, yeah, I don't, I don't know. I don't get it. I don't understand why, why you can't overcome whatever racial feelings you have and think, well, this would have been a shoving match except for one guy had a knife and stabbed the other guy to death. You can't do that when you're asked

[Jack Armstrong]

over and over and over again to leave somewhere. Leave. But you know, that doesn't enter into the crime. Who is polite or impolite or had a right to be under a tent or not. That's not the way the law works.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Man, what an ugly story. I don't know if there's anything more to say on that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the only thing I'll say is that there was an absolutely horrific crime in which a Somali man tried to behead an Irishman in the street.

[Joe Getty]

And didn't they determine it's not Somalia?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, Sudanese.

[Joe Getty]

I think it was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, Sudan. My apologies. Yeah, an S named Africa country. But anyway, there was a second night of great violence in Britain.

[Joe Getty]

Britain.

[Jack Armstrong]

As the rampant open immigration, particularly from Muslim lands, which has so twisted British society. The true meaning of that, the impact of that is becoming more and more clear to more and more Brits. And so they're acting out and rioting and breaking stuff, which I never condone, but I have said this many, many times and will continue to say it if only extremist, quote unquote groups talk about the real problems the people are feeling. People will gravitate to those groups. If your mainstream in British politics isn't ready to say, you know, this has caused enormous, enormous problems and disruptions. People are going to act in ways you don't like and you caused it center right in Britain. You caused a lot of it. More on that another time.

[Joe Getty]

I want to talk to us about some stuff that's a little less serious. Did you see the I've got all the details on this. The that Seattle, Seattle mayor that we like making fun of the Katie Wilson socialist.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie Wilson woman, child socialist. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Her latest thing with all those tiny homes that she built. Well, not near as many as they were supposed to build, but what a disaster this is turning into and going to turn into. Pretty funny story actually that we'll have to get to. And and then I got a question for you. Does this ever happen in your life? That got from Robbie Suave of reason, but does this ever happen in your life? He asks that question. We ask that question. That's a good one too. A lot of stuff on the way. I hope you can stay here. Armstrong and Gettys Armstrong and Getty here for hims, there are all kinds of great weight loss approaches that fit into your world. Out there. They've got them at HIMSS with a wide range of affordable GLP1 options.

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is going to tell tell us before we play the clip what that is. What is it? What the heck is that?

[Jack Armstrong]

A couple of dip asses who go out at night and hit golf balls into oncoming traffic and at the windows of buildings. Then they tape it and they post the clips to Instagram.

[Joe Getty]

Did the police immediately show up and say, you're under arrest and you have to pay for the damage you've done and that's illegal and you've committed these crimes?

[Jack Armstrong]

Surprisingly, yes. They're not hiding their faces. They've got over 45,000 followers. Appear to be doing this nightly across LA, joking in the comments about never getting caught.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they quickly were caught.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of idiots, Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson is being criticized for her tiny homes likened to port a potty, drug dens. So one of the many people in blue cities that have decided, you know, what we need to do for the homeless, the unhoused drug addicts, is building these tiny homes so they have someplace to live. These things are tiny. They are about the size of a big porta potty.

[Jack Armstrong]

She had promised the size of a jail cell.

[Joe Getty]

She had promised a thousand of them in time for the World Cup. Since they're moving the drawed at drug addicts out of the way. I don't know why you have to put up with it if you're a citizen of the city and you live there all the time. But if TV cameras are going to be there and foreigners are going to spend money watching soccer, then they move the drug addicts out of the way. I don't quite get citizens.

[Jack Armstrong]

No F you Romanian soccer fans will do anything for you.

[Joe Getty]

They're supposed to build a thousand and they got 50 so far. Supposed to build a thousand. Before the soccer match started, they got 50. There's 70 square feet, which isn't very many, and equipped with just a single bed and a desk. I thought a desk desk. I suppose it's so, well, so you can fill out your resumes, applying for your jobs and all the stuff, you know, so they can go out support. Because all they need is just a little help to get back on their feet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Write your memoir on the desk.

[Joe Getty]

Write your memoir. And the first thought you might think is there was a toilet in there, though there's not a toilet in there. They're sharing toilets and other facilities, showers and that sort of stuff. See, it's just a bed and a desk in this tiny little place. And homeless advocates think it's just awful that we're giving the taxpayers, are giving them these tiny little places to live. People on the other side of it are saying, what a waste of money. They're Just gonna pee and poop in them and do drugs in them and they're gonna get destroyed and nothing will get accomplished. Which is true, by the way, because

[Jack Armstrong]

they're drug addicts, they're irresponsible. It kind of goes with it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So anyway, we'll see how that turns out. Yet another experiment and dumb blue ideas. I wanted to get this on. I thought it was really good. I came across it online yesterday. Robbie Suave. Didn't we used to have him on regularly?

[Jack Armstrong]

Semi. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Like, we used to talk to him from Reason magazine. He said, I'll read what he said before I get to what Ezra Klein wrote. Robbie Suave said, I have never once in my life encountered someone expressing this sentiment. Either I live in a bubble or Ezra Klein does. And I thought, well, I guess we all do. And it's really interesting. None of us know the extent to which we are bubbled, but we're all bubbled a little bit. I try really hard not to be because of this job. If I didn't have this job, I probably wouldn't try near as hard.

[Jack Armstrong]

But no, I think that the time honored argument still stands. Conservatives cannot help but hearing the arguments of progressives. Certainly growing up. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

The only way you could do it is if, like, you didn't watch tv, go to movies, listen to music, go to concerts, newspapers. Yeah. Take in any media, go to concerts, anything Ezra Klein wrote. He's the opinion column and opinion columnist for the New York Times. Over the past few years, I've been asked one question more than any other. It comes up at speeches, at dinners and conversation. It's the most popular query when I open my podcast to suggestions time and again. And I thought, okay, I'm interested in this. No matter what he's doing. This is the most popular question. It comes in two forms. The first, should I have kids given the climate crisis they will face?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my Lord.

[Joe Getty]

And the second, should I have kids knowing they will contribute to the climate crisis the world faces?

[Jack Armstrong]

Holy.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, I know, I know. So if Ezra Klein is being honest, that the one question more than any other, speeches, dinners, his podcast, and Robbie Suave says, like me, I have never once in my life encountered someone expressing this sentiment. So, I mean, that's quite, quite a difference.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

I have never heard that in my life either, ever. And Ezra Klein, it's the number one question no matter what he does.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

And again, I don't actually know he might be telling the truth, which means he runs in very different circles than the rest of us.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like you're describing, you know, some native culture with plates in their lips and then no motor cars or whatever, and talking about how they drink ox blood for their religious rituals. I mean, it's so foreign. It's crazy. I saw there was an advice column in the New York Times. I hang, Hung onto it for a while, but never brought it up on the show, where this person says, I'm really feeling guilty about some of the things I do. Is it more environmentally irresponsible of me to use an AI chatbot or to eat red meat? And they broke it down and I'm like, shut up and give me a hamburger. I'm talking to Claude.

[Joe Getty]

If you weren't an atheist, which you probably are, you should get down on your knees and thank God that your life is so pleasant and easy that you can worry about whether or not you should eat red meat or use a chatbot, because your life must be pretty great to get down to that concern. Yeah, Good God. On the whole, the number one question, everywhere I go, no matter what I do over many years, Ezra Klein says your answer. I hope your answer is, you're a man up.

[Jack Armstrong]

You baby. Even the women man up.

[Joe Getty]

Should I have kids given the climate crisis they will face?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, for God.

[Joe Getty]

If your response, Ezra, is not. Is that a real question? Then you're doing it wrong. Should I have kids knowing they'll contribute to the climate crisis? What in the hell?

[Jack Armstrong]

There is such a quasi religious thing going on there?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Articles of faith, sacred doctrines. You dare not question it, lest you be labeled an apostate. It's just an infidel.

[Joe Getty]

How much time? How much time we got here, Michael?

[Jack Armstrong]

Three minutes.

[Joe Getty]

We played it earlier, talking about it. Trump just answered some questions about the whole war in Iran, and specifically the last 48 hours where Iran shot down one of our Apache helicopters. And Trump, to my mind, very tepely replied verbally and tepidly replied militarily, although it may be, according to David Ignatius of the Washington Post, a shaping operation. It's when you take out various things before you do the big hit. I hope that's what it is. But anyway, the story that we now know that the, the, the rocket, the drone lodged into the helicopter and didn't explode.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And they landed the helicopter in the water and got out of the helicopter the whole time thinking, this is going to explode any second. We're going to be dead.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. Yep, yep. They had already probably come to terms with their own deaths and survived miraculously. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that'd make you religious.

[Jack Armstrong]

I get so tired of saying this, but I guess we'll have to give it a day or two to see if the the repercussions are appropriate. There is reporting better be There is

[Joe Getty]

reporting that Hegseth had to convince Trump. Hey, we got to respond to this. This.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Cuz Trump didn't want to. Hey, wow. So there have been a lot of graduation speeches over the last couple of weeks and we've played some good ones, some great ones and some horrible ones. But there's a good one we got coming up. I, I can't wait to play that I really liked. And I'm going to think about a light a lot in my life from a tennis player, maybe the greatest tennis player of all time, Roger Federer. But he spoke at a graduation yesterday and his little spiel was really, really good. So we'll play a little that for you. Hopefully it'll be inspiring and like something you can take from this show that is not, you know, misery and depression.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the advice? Get to the net as fast as you can.

[Joe Getty]

Be born tall and strong, handsome and handsome. Then apply it to tennis.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if you're not, try harder.

[Joe Getty]

I was playing pickleball the other day. We actually read the, we actually read the rules and we're trying to play it by the rules. Yeah, that's, that's quite the game.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's incredibly popular. Yeah, it is.

[Joe Getty]

I don't quite get it myself, but we prefer tennis. But anyway, teach your own.

[Jack Armstrong]

Look at you, you purist. That's why you're wearing your whites today and your headband doesn't look good.

[Joe Getty]

Can't wear a visor when you're blonde or bald. Not blonde. Bald doesn't do you any good. Roger Federer with some advice for life coming up. It's really good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and getty

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

That basketball game the other night was the most expensive NBA game for a ticket in history. The fourth most expensive sporting event of all time in terms of tickets. Who went to the game pays that kind of money? Got kind of a funny thing on that. I see that nut job Nancy Mace 1 are lost in South Carolina and is probably done with her political career.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, she was a distant third or fourth or something like that. Yeah, what a kook. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I feel like I had one other thing I was going to mention, but I'm sure it'll pop into my head. Came across this yesterday. One of the many graduation speeches making the rounds. Some of them are insufferably dreamy liberal crap that people say up there or

[Jack Armstrong]

like ripped from today's headlines.

[Joe Getty]

Political oh right, yeah, right. Just like the politics of the day. Anyway, this is Roger Federer. I don't know if I ever watched a single point of him playing tennis. I used to love watching tennis back in the day, but Roger Federer? Maybe the greatest tennis player of all time, speaking to some group at a graduation. I thought this was really good.

[Roger Federer]

Perfection is impossible in the 1526 singles matches I played in my Career. I won almost 80% of those matches. Now, I have a question for you. What percentage of points do you think I won in those matches? Only 54%. In other words, even top ranked tennis players win barely more than half of the points they play. When you lose every second point on average, you learn not to dwell on every shot. You teach yourself to think, okay, I double faulted. It's only a point. Okay, I came to the net and I got passed again. It's only a point. Even a great shot, an overhead backhand smash that ends up on ESPN's Top 10 playlist, that, too, is just a point. So here's why I'm telling you this. When you're playing a point, it has to be the most important thing in the world, and it is. But when it's behind you, it's behind you. This mindset is really crucial because it frees you to fully commit to the next point and the next point after that with intensity, clarity, and focus.

[Joe Getty]

I really like that. And I'm something I've been terrible at my whole life, and I hope I can get better at in the last quarter of my life, assuming I don't get run over by a bus or murdered. That happened. You anything to learn from that? Maybe? Yes. No. Whatever. Okay, let's move on to the next thing. The end of that thing is over. That thing happened. Oh, I'm done with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought you meant on the show. We're gonna move on to the next thing. I was like, no, I want to talk about this.

[Joe Getty]

No, no, no, no. The event that I'm just. Whatever happened in my life, big or small or like he said, and if it went really, really well, anything need to learn from that or remember. Okay, now let's go forward. It's over.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. They call it having the memory of a goldfish in golf. Don't, don't, don't dwell on your past failures. They don't help you learn from them quickly and then move along.

[Joe Getty]

Can you. Can I apply it to life, though? God, it's amazing how much of the. Of what we do is our brain was wired that way in the womb, and we have marginal control over and how much of it is a personality tendency that we developed for. And nobody knows actually on all these things, but God dang it.

[Jack Armstrong]

The.

[Joe Getty]

The dwelling on something bad that happened is pointless once you've, you know, squeezed any knowledge you can out of it. But that happens pretty quickly.

[Jack Armstrong]

True enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough. I was just thinking about to what extent is that metaphor useful for life. And it is. It definitely is. I mean, if you, like, spend your entire life savings on three magic beans, well, that's. That's more than a point, Roger. That's the match. That's your career. But in general, yeah. I mean, the future happens while you're stewing about the past. That's good. That ought to be on a poster or a T shirt or something.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't know if I agree with you. Even if you spent your life savings on three magic beans, there is one. Well, that was really stupid. Stupidest thing I ever did. But there's no point in dwelling on it anymore. There's just no point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Note to self. Don't buy magic beans and then move on. Yeah, that's true.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe put a post it note on your mirror, say no to magic bean salesman next time. But yeah, move on with your life. Even if. Yeah, even if it bankrupted you.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I'm reminded of the dozens, hundreds of game winning shots. Michael Jordan missed. Yeah, but he kept shooting. Because that's what life is. You keep shooting.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, speaking of basketball. This is not about basketball. This is about who spends all that money to go to the most expensive sport. That is a game that's ever happened. I thought this was kind of funny. It's a map of Madison Square Garden. You got celebrities. That's obvious. Finance tech bros. Obvious. By the way. It has you outside of the arena. That's most of us, right? We didn't spend the money or go celebrities. Finance tech bros. Your boss's boss's boss. And then real fans who are terrible with money. And I would say that that is probably a good description about everybody in the arena.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you could put. Well, let me, let me just preface it by saying this. I have been hardcore sports fan at times in my life. I'm not now. I just enjoy it as entertainment. I don't take it seriously if my team loses, I think and I go do something else. But I've been the other guy.

[Joe Getty]

Why do you think that is? Because I'm the same way. You think it's low T?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's complete lack of testosterone. I have none. As I've mentioned on the show more than once, I believe I am totally testosterone free. I think part of it is having moved a bunch of times and gone places where I can't really follow my favorite team practically anymore. So I pay attention to a different one and all. But you know, I grew up being an absolutely hardcore Cubs fan. For instance, in Chicagoland. Love the Cubbies lived and died with them when they'd lose a playoff series. When they finally got into the playoffs, I was just devastated. So if I'd stayed in that environment and was still a hardcore Cubs fan, the cachet I get from saying, yeah, I was behind the plate in game seven, people like, wow, dude.

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I was there when, you know, to carry wood through his 15th strikeout or whatever. Oh, my God. See that. That sort of pride, whether it's justified or healthy or makes any sense or not. What's with that?

[Joe Getty]

To the side.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. The discussion for another day. I could see that over the course of a lifetime in that culture being worth a lot of money.

[Joe Getty]

True that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm the king of the hardcore fans. Everybody knows it. I was at game seven.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I get it. I'll bet there is a lot of that, though.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

People who are picturing bad with money.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that too. But New York sports fans who are pleased, they're a different level. Yeah. And a perennial loser like the Knicks, and they finally break through. Oh, yeah. They probably get their ticket, the replica, their ticket tattooed on their chest, have it blown up. It's on the wall of the man cave in the garage. And, you know, they said they. They'll bring it up at the local deli. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Give me the pastrami on rye. And I was at the Knicks game, you know. Right, right. So what game did I go to recently? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So my financial investor got me his ridiculous suite tickets for the local NBA team where I live. I will not be specific, even though you can figure it out.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's Jeffrey Epstein. Is his financial advice to hide the

[Joe Getty]

shame and hide the shame of the team. I wasn't exactly rooting for them, but anyway, I took my kids to the NBA game, and we got to sit in this suite, which was really awesome. I mean, and we sat in the row in front of the suite where you have these big recliners. I mean, big giant leather recliners. Back your feet up and, oh, you have your waitress bringing you stuff and stuff. Like, it's just ridiculous. But not only that, because I was thinking about this with Timothy Chalamet and all the stars are at the game. There's a different entrance on the ticket. I didn't go in the normal way. I went through some door that's like on the side street that you wouldn't even know was an entrance to the arena.

[Jack Armstrong]

Enter with the poor people, moi.

[Joe Getty]

And you show up and they look at a camera and you hold up your special ticket and they open the door and you take a special tunnel thing and you go to your seat without.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on in, brother. Foot rub for you.

[Joe Getty]

You go through an empty hallway to, like, a mostly empty elevator and go up to your thing. You don't have to fight through the crowd. And our own bathroom that was always completely empty and clean.

[Jack Armstrong]

Manicure while you're riding up in the elevator, sir?

[Joe Getty]

Right. I thought that's quite the. That's quite the deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shoulder rub. Perhaps a trim while you're sitting in your easy chair. Does your hair need a trim? Anything for you, your highness. Wow. I go in with the poor people and drink the poor people's beer, and I'm down to earth like that.

[Joe Getty]

I have had more. This is memorable in its own way, obviously. The special entrance in the elevator in your own bathroom. Memorable in its own way. But I've had my best sports memories have been the. Not the best seat with the riff raff. Me. Me being part of the riffraff, you know, standing at the trough, waiting in line, half drunk. You know, those are great sports memories.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate troughs. That's funny.

[Joe Getty]

We were at a burger. I don't mind the trough. I feel like I'm home. This is my people. Anytime I'm urinating in a trough, I think I am home. This is. This is me. This is my life. I love this. But we were at a burger place yesterday that has a trough, and my son wanted to hold it because he didn't have to go use the trough. About how do things change in so many generations?

[Jack Armstrong]

So I have a number of questions. In your primitive trough society, do you use money or do you trade beads and trinkets and seashells?

[Joe Getty]

I know I'm at a bar. I like. If it's got a trough in the bathroom.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, good lord.

[Joe Getty]

That's the way to go. I used to work at a country bar. Had a giant trough because this place put 300 people in there on a busy Friday and Saturday night. So you needed a really long trough. There'd be 20 guys around that thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. Speaking of vexing questions, a couple of really interesting property rights cases for you. I want to get your opinion, Jack, because I know you're a big property rights guy. Including the infamous dog walking feud in Wisconsin.

[Joe Getty]

Don't know this one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it'll tear. It'll tear families apart.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no. Vexing that and other stuff on the way. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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mom, can I have Lingokids? Dad, Lingokids, please. When did we become the Lingokids house? No idea. Last week it was dinosaurs. This week it's lingo. Kids, why Lingokids?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because it's the best thing ever.

[Joe Getty]

We can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.

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[Joe Getty]

Everything kids love. Download it for free.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Oh my God. I have got a good final thought. I got a good final thought that tells you everything you need to know. So stay tuned. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Now that's a tease. A couple of property rights stories. In a way, both of them interesting. Wyoming and I did not know this is undergoing an enormous boom in these giant data centers, these monstrous computer facilities. For instance, they're building this one near Cheyenne that they. They have so many workers needed to build it, they're erecting a temporary workforce housing complex for as many as 5,600 laborers and tradespeople. The complex would be larger than 84 of Wyoming's incorporated cities and towns, according to state data, would instantly become one of the biggest towns in Wyoming. And here's these folks who bought this beautiful high deserty spread of land with nothing but nature in every direction.

[Joe Getty]

And they're gonna be staring at that data center now that's right out their back door. Oh my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, what a night.

[Joe Getty]

I'll be driving. I drive through Cheyenne a couple times a year headed to Kansas, so I'll have to. I'll check that out next time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. 200 bucks and just take the loss.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you'd be so unhappy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You used to watch the sunset that direction over the plains. Now it's a giant data center.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's just sad. Here's the one that's kind of controversial. It's pretty interesting. So you got these two people in Shorewood, Wisconsin and it's right on the banks of Lake Michigan. I'm sure it's very, very beautiful. And this guy, Paul Florsheim, he's a retired, I think academic or something like that. He walks his dogs every day along the shore. And one of the neighbors has, he bought the place I think a couple of years ago. But he walks his dog past the Lake Michigan property of Dennis Daniel Domagalla, known locally for the time he spends in a tiki style boathouse and deck that doubles as a surveillance post. From there, Domagalla monitors traffic and sets off alarms to scare walkers, swimmers and kayakers away. He has signs that read private property beyond the sign, only water access beyond this point. And he keeps calling the cops over and over again about his neighbor who walks his dog by on the beach.

[Joe Getty]

Sounds like he's really enjoying his life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he seems like a miserable son of a bitch. In his defense, there is a public beach like very close. And so as he says, look, my backyard, my property is this sand and I got members of the public just camping out in my backyard. Wisconsin law says free passage in the water. You can boat, you can kayak, you can do anything you want, go back and forth across the water or even walk through the water. But if you come a foot beyond the water's edge, wherever it happens to be tidy at that point, you're on this guy's property.

[Joe Getty]

So it's different in California. Must be then, right? Because we've had that this story many times. Like in LA area where super rich celebrities sometimes will put out signs saying private beach. But you can't really do that. The beach is not private.

[Jack Armstrong]

Likewise Hawaii as I recall. But yeah, it varies state to state, but this is happening all over the country. They mentioned Florida, Rhode Island, a couple other ones. It's an interesting legal question.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, so much of it would be about degree a guy quietly walking his dog through once a day, who cares? People camping there and like having a party Would be a different thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

But I have known people like this. There's. I knew a guy who sat outside his house. A retired guy. Neighborhood I lived in years ago. Gladys, do you still work here? Years ago, I knew this.

[Jack Armstrong]

She was tuning up her harp. It goes out of tune quickly this time of year. It's so hot and humid.

[Joe Getty]

She uses real cat gut strings. That's why it sounds so good. I knew this guy lived on the corner of this nice, quiet neighborhood I lived in. He was retired. He'd sit on his porch and, man, he just was vigilant about making sure nobody let their dog, when they're going around that corner, pee on his lawn. Hey, just. All right, you know, I understand why you don't want that, but that is not how I want to spend my life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It just seemed like he. He seemed miserable trying to stay on watch for that sort of thing. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, that's even better than Roger Federer's speech that we just featured. All right, granted, the dog's pee is bad for your lawn. It can cause, you know, your lawn to look bad. On the other hand, vigilance against it. I decided a long time ago, playing golf, there are guys who cheat, and I don't get it. I'm talking to you. What do you want my $10? That much or however much money Or. Or does your ego think, wow, I'm a really good golfer Even though you cheated? Or is it that you just can't accept that you got a really bad break anyway, quit cheating.

[Joe Getty]

But I decided, what kind of cheating is it usually?

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the most generally improving your lie? Oh, bumping the ball so it's sitting up because you got a crappy lie, or you're right behind a tree and yoink. You knock it a little bit. I decided a long time ago I was not going to waste my life Constantly vigilant against guys cheating. Figure, let him cheat. F them. Yeah, I'm gonna enjoy myself. Great.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Definitely. Definitely a better life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now. If a dog peed on me while I was playing golf, I would have a problem with that.

[Joe Getty]

You.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's final. So beautiful. The harmonies. Soon we'll hear your comments, entertain us, Give us closure. For the show is nearly done.

[Joe Getty]

Not sure I've ever paid attention to the lyrics. Give us closure. That's what we do.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'd be delighted.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the day. Michelangelo in the control room will lead us as always. Michael, final thought. Yeah, I've gotten very good at messing

[Joe Getty]

up and just forgetting about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've become very comfortable with being mediocre.

[Joe Getty]

That's good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I will. I will dovetail off that final thought. I've said this several times. The key to being an idiot is not wishing you're not an idiot. It's crafting your life to minimize the impact of your idiocy. That's been my motto for a long time. Jack, final thought.

[Joe Getty]

My final thought. That explains everything. Here's a poll. So they're talking on Fox about what it costs to watch this game or that game or whatever. And you have to have Netflix to watch this and Amazon and then this football game's there. Fox poll. Most major sporting events should be legally required to be free on tv. Saying a majority of people. All right, that makes you a. It's unworkable. And that's why democracy will fail.

[Jack Armstrong]

Correct.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So many people to thank, so little time. Go To Armstrong and getty.com we have some hot links for you. Pick up the enforce the law T shirt. Drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com we will see you tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

And there'll probably be lots of news. God bless America. We have a podcast, the greatest of all time.

[Jack Armstrong]

You should really listen.

[Joe Getty]

One cost you a dime.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack on song and Joe get it. They got the news, they got the views? You better get ready. Armstrong and gay on demand?

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

mom, can I have Lingokids? Dad, Lingokids, please. When did we become the Lingokids house? No idea. Last week it was dinosaurs. This week it's Lingokids. Why Lingokids?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because it's the best thing ever.

[Joe Getty]

We can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.

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[Joe Getty]

and shows, LingoKids is the number one

[Jack Armstrong]

entertainment platform for young kids.

[Joe Getty]

So no dinosaurs and dinosaurs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lingokids.

[Joe Getty]

Everything kids love, download it for free.

[Jack Armstrong]

Professional wrestling fans, the action continues every week. You got it coming this is total non stop TNA Thursday Night Impact every week on AMC. For showtimes and more information, visit tnarissling.com

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