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broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Pete Hegseth
Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and get it.
I'll start, as we often do here at the Department of War with the bottom line up front for the world to hear and the press to actually admit that the United States is decimating the radical Iranian regime's military in a way the world has never seen before. Never before has a modern, capable military, which Iran used to have been so quickly destroyed and made combat ineffective. Devastated. We said it would not be a fair fight and it has not been.
Joe Getty
That is all true. However, it doesn't really have anything to do with the issue of the day, which is the whole Strait of Hormuz situation. Anyway, we'll get to that in a second. This is getting a lot of attention, as Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War, describes the current supreme Leader.
Pete Hegseth
We know the new so called not so supreme leader is wounded and likely disfigured. He put out a statement yesterday, a weak one actually, but there was no voice and there was no video. It was a written statement. He called for unity. Apparently killing tens of thousands of protesters is his kind of unity. Iran has plenty of cameras and plenty of voice recorders. Why a written statement? I think you know why. His father dead. He's scared, he's injured, he's on the run and he lacks legitimacy. It's a mess for them. Who's in charge? Iran may not even know we blew off his beard.
I told you, disfigured, beardless.
Joe Getty
So I think that's baiting the guy. Like show your face before we get
Pete Hegseth
into the, the substance of it, does Pete Hegseth not sound to you like a guy who's ready to fight you right now?
Joe Getty
Yeah, he does sound like that.
Pete Hegseth
I mean, like if a reporter took a run at him, there wouldn't be that half second of oh my God, what's happening. No, he'd be cocked and ready, let's go. He'd be thinking, finally, I wanted to fight somebody.
Joe Getty
That's right. That's why the Colin Jost portrayal of him is that way when they comes out. All right, listen up. Dip Watts.
Pete Hegseth
Yeah, I love virtually everything he says, though.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I think so.
Pete Hegseth
The straight to the substance, the straight
Joe Getty
of Hormuz situation, he was asked about that. All the chatter now is, did you prepare for this properly? And he was asked that and answered, yeah, right here.
Pete Hegseth
Mr. Secretary, you have said that the
Joe Getty
US military is essentially aerial superiority, naval
Pete Hegseth
superiority over Iran, yet we're not escorting ships to the Strait of Port Muth. Why? How did you not plan for this?
We planned for it. We recognize it because ultimately we want to do it sequentially in a way that makes the most sense for what we want to achieve and ensure that we're sending the right signals to the world when we do so. So when Chris Wright speaks or we speak, it's based on a full assessment of what we're up against, what we want to say to the world, how we want them to see and understand the conflict.
Joe Getty
So go ahead.
Pete Hegseth
Well, I was gonna say Kim Strassel wrote a brilliant column for the Journal this morning. Trump's energy triumph. And he writes, she writes, the Democratic media complex, which we just heard right there, seems determined to get everything wrong about Iran. Though few efforts compare with this week's work to tag the Trump administration global energy crisis, not only is this uninformed and overdone, the sudden concern over energy security comes about three years too late. And she points out that Trump and his drill, baby, drill, and we gotta be self reliant and have domestic production fire up the Michigan. Oh, yeah, that is absolutely made this situation. I can't put a percentage on it, but much, much, much less damaging than it could have been. And to hear the Democratic media saying, we've got to have oil flowing, it's so important that oil flows and Trump's not doing a good enough job. I mean, it's just hilarious.
Joe Getty
Well, I thought this was really interesting for Mark Halpern's newsletter today because he has sources in the White House that are, you know, in favor of this action and and close to the president. So here's what he writes. In its initial days, the public story of the conflict with Iran was one of forced momentum and success. The briefing stressed what had been hit, what had been degraded, what had been decapitated, naval assets damaged, command and control disrupted, missile capacity diminished, villains eliminated. On paper and in early headlines, it looked like a campaign moving with confidence and purpose. But in the last few days, based on my reporting and conversations with people in and around the administration, including some who support the mission, I have developed real doubts about where this thing stands. He said, let me be careful here, because this is the kind of subject where people hear what they want to hear. I'm not saying the original objective was foolish. I'm not saying the mission cannot still succeed. I'm not. I'm certainly not saying that to question the execution of a war effort is somehow to root against the United States or its military. That is not serious thinking. It is not patriotic thinking either. He goes on to talk about Walter Cronkite, famously, you know, questioning the war at Vietnam and Lyndon Johnson, president at the time, saying, if I've lost Walter Cronkite, have lost America. And Mark Halpern says, I am not Walter Cronkite. But right now, the biggest problem is not abstract. It has a name. The Strait of Hormuz. If the United States and allies cannot reopen that waterway to commercial shipping, then much else about the effort becomes secondary, maybe at least somewhat useless doubts have grown over whether or not they had prepared properly or that they have a plan to deal with this. The pre war cogitation is that thinking. Fancy word for thinking.
Pete Hegseth
Fancy word for thinking.
Joe Getty
The pre war cogitation by Team Trump about the strait and how to keep it open seems at best to have been insufficiently planned for. And a failure to open the strait in a fortnight or so. That'd be two weeks, many analysts and sources say, could lead to world oil prices rising to $200 a barrel, which would likely create catastrophic consequences worldwide.
Pete Hegseth
I like a lot of what he said.
Joe Getty
One more thing. And then I think, perfect, deleted. The question being asked now, including by allies of the administration inside the Beltway, is how the United States could enter a conflict of this magnitude without a more fully developed answer on two obvious fronts, Hormuz and drones.
Pete Hegseth
Yeah, the drones thing. Is there on Earth a satisfying answer to that question?
Joe Getty
I have no idea.
Pete Hegseth
That's the great military challenge of our time. That seems a little unfair. The Hormuz thing, maybe they didn't really have a plan or maybe it's just gonna take a while to execute the plan. But I know this. Most thinkers didn't think the Iranians would mine the Strait of Hormuz, or Straits of Hormuz, if you prefer, because it's so critical to their own oil exporting. They wouldn't want to make that a war zone. But now that they have, I guess the US Is thinking about taking that Carg island, which is enormously important to their oil industry and exports and everything else, and revenue. Because we've got to get a hold of that and shut that down now, right? Yeah, yeah, it's a hell of a problem. The whole. They didn't have a plan. They didn't have a plan. We're in the middle of a war. It may be. And look, I'm always in favor of the Trump administration guy, but it seems to me the time for that analysis is maybe down the road. Well, if it do, now is the question.
Joe Getty
Well, if this reporting is true, his reporting is people inside the White House who are supporting of this mission are saying, did we not have a plan for this?
Pete Hegseth
Oh boy.
Joe Getty
So that's what he's reporting.
Pete Hegseth
Right. Okay, fair enough.
Joe Getty
So I wonder, just to end here, no matter how supportive you are of the President, President Trump, no matter how legitimate you believe the aims of this conflict to be, there is reason for concern. Not panic, not despair, but concern based on what people are saying inside the White House.
Pete Hegseth
The more I think about it, if you were to pre launching the, the attack to list just like three threats or levers that Iran has, closing the straits to Hormuz would be on that list of three. You wouldn't have to go five deep or ten deep. It's right there at the top.
Joe Getty
It's possible that they completely thought of it and thought, we just got to hope we hit them so hard that they can't cause problems. I guess either way, I mean, it still might come down to either way. Tomorrow at 2 o', clock, the supreme leader and 40 of his cabinet are going to be up above ground. And we know exactly where we either hit him or we don't.
Pete Hegseth
Excellent reminder. Yeah.
Joe Getty
And it might just be that, but this looks like a stick, but a problem. This looks like a problem, like a real problem. How we get that open back up again.
Pete Hegseth
The other factor that may well be at work here, and I don't know if Halperin's been talking about this at all, but is I still don't think Trump maybe until recently gets religious fanaticism. He thought the Usual levers applied in the usual ways. Violence, you know, threats, sanctions, whatever would get the usual results that he's gotten from, say, Venezuela.
Joe Getty
He thinks everyone's a businessman.
Pete Hegseth
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. I don't think he gets that. No, no. They will watch their entire country and every person in it burn a fiery death before they give in to the great Satan.
Joe Getty
And they themselves are willing to die, which.
Pete Hegseth
Because then they'll be at Allah's side
Joe Getty
with all the virgins, which I don't think he can wrap his head around either.
Pete Hegseth
So many virgins. You got to like learn all their names. I mean, that just seems respectful. Anybody around?
Joe Getty
Anybody here with a little experience? Huh?
Pete Hegseth
Yeah. Can just say, you know, like, how about 40 virgins and 32 gals who know what they're doing.
Joe Getty
45 year olds have been around the block. Come on.
Pete Hegseth
Got the skills. Yeah. Anyway, I'm. I'm not a skills scholar. I'm not a.
Joe Getty
You're not a religious scholar?
Pete Hegseth
I'm not an expert on the Quran, no.
Joe Getty
Hi, Karama.
Pete Hegseth
These are weird times. Well, well, well. On a lighter note, Bigfoot is rampaging across Ohio. I've been digging into those details and seems legit to me and I want
Joe Getty
to get to this later because there are some interesting philosophical discussions to have around it. If they actually have figured out how to freeze brains and then thaw them back out, what does that flipping mean going forward?
Pete Hegseth
Horrifying zombie apocalypse, I think.
Joe Getty
Or certainly, you know, preserving your brain for a future where maybe they could put it in a body that the future doesn't want.
Pete Hegseth
My brain. The present hardly does.
Joe Getty
There's always that. Okay, we got lots on the way. Stay here.
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Joe Getty
But okay, the word is crypopreservation. I guess that's the official term for freezing a brain and bringing it back alive. And it's never been possible till now in that when you freeze a brain, it destroys the cells and you can't thawed out and have it still work. But they figured out a way to freeze the cells in such a way that it doesn't destroy them. And they sliced up brain tissue from mice and have frozen them for a week or so and then thawed them back out. The freezing and the thawing have to be very careful and still gotten a brain activity that could happen. So they haven't done it with a full brain yet.
Pete Hegseth
But mouse woke up and said, where am I?
Joe Getty
What's happening to me? Same day, different cheese, you know? Yeah.
Pete Hegseth
How about the length of time? Because you can get freezer burn, but
Joe Getty
obviously this opens the door if they can perfect this to all kinds of wonders where someone could have a terrible disease, freeze the brain, get to the point that we can cure the disease, and then, you know, you reanimate your brain. But we'd have to. You'd have to put it in a body though, in that case, because we still haven't perfected the brain transplant. So what good does it do to have to bring. To freeze a brain outside of a body, bring it back alive. And now you're what, a guy who lives in a jar?
Pete Hegseth
According to 50s sci fi movies? Yes. Yeah. And you can speak and stuff like that?
Joe Getty
Yeah, you can speak, I don't know.
Pete Hegseth
And command people to kill, as I recall from some movie I watched as a kid.
Joe Getty
Boy, that gets into some serious thinking about human nature. If I am, I don't, I want to, I don't want to make this dark. But like, if I, if, if I'm, if I lose the ability to do anything, speak or move my body at all, and I'm just a brain, do I want to live like that? Well, that's what you'd be in a jar.
Pete Hegseth
Could I like do crossword puzzles and stuff like that? Surely Elon Musk can. You're gonna do crossword puzzles all day,
Joe Getty
every day, for the rest of eternity? Well, that's just a princess.
Pete Hegseth
For the rest of eternity. I mean, you'd have a lifespan, right? It'd just be long later. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I'd watch tv. I'd think, boy, I watched. I wish I could play golf, but I don't have a body. I keep forgetting.
Joe Getty
I'd watch tv. I don't know.
Pete Hegseth
I would read books.
Joe Getty
I just don't know if there's any point of being just a brain. How are you going to hold these books?
Pete Hegseth
You don't need to go to the
Joe Getty
library, get the book.
Pete Hegseth
Well, that's right. I have no eyeballs, surely. Well. And I have no ears. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Joe Getty
Well, that's what I'm saying. Unless they perfect all those other things, who would just want consciousness? Can't see, hear feelings, do anything. But I'm alive.
Pete Hegseth
No, no, that's. That's horrifying nightmare.
Joe Getty
Yes, it is a horrifying nightmare.
Pete Hegseth
It limits you. That's the understatement of the Internet.
Joe Getty
That is the subtle joke of the day. Michelangelo's subtle comment of the day. It limits you.
Pete Hegseth
Well done. Would be limiting for those. For those who are fans of science, I find this super, super interesting. The problem, and they've always talked about this as various rich people or ball players or whatever were going to get their heads frozen, that when you freeze tissue, ice crystals form.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Pete Hegseth
And as the water freezes, the crystals expand. They puncture membranes, disrupt the intricate network of neurons, ultimately destroy the connections that make the brain what the brain is. But this team of neurologists in Germany circumvent the problem by using a technique known as vitrification, which cools tissue so rapidly that it prevents ice crystals from forming at all. Instead of crystallizing, the liquid inside and around, the cells transform into an amorphous glass like state, preserving the tissue structure. With all molecular motion effectively halted.
Joe Getty
I think I read the whole article, though I don't think it ever got to the next step that we've just been discussing. Okay, so even if you can take a brain, freeze it and thaw it back out and it still functions, you got a long way to go before you've accomplished anything. In my mind, you got to be
Pete Hegseth
able to put it a thousand miles. We got to start. You got to put it in a body. Well, right, but there's no point in doing the other stuff until you can figure out you can preserve a brain. So this is the first step, an important first step.
Joe Getty
I need eyes and arms in something
Pete Hegseth
that I can't imagine.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, but anybody's brain's been formed frozen in the past. Ted Williams, the baseball player froze his brain. Walt Disney. They didn't freeze it in the right way, so they're out of luck. They're just frozen brains that won't ever work.
Pete Hegseth
So yeah, they're all messed up too bad.
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several delays, US space agency NASA has set new dates for the launch of its Artemis 2 moon mission. Liftoff is now set for April 1st with six alternate dates. It will be the first crude lunar trip since the Apollo missions 50 years ago. The 10 day crewed mission would loop around the moon. The rocket has had problems with various fuel leaks, but on Thursday, officials finished a two day flight readiness review, an evaluation of whether the spacecraft, rocket and ground systems are prepared for launch. That's exciting. I heard, I think it was on ABC that NASA or somebody said there's about a 1 in 30 chance of crew loss. I'm on that crew. I'm thinking, whoa, whoa. What? Wait, what?
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Wow.
Pete Hegseth
And can we call it a mission without a mission with crew instead of a crewed mission? Because I hear crude mission. I think it's gonna be a lot of swearing and breaking wind or something like that. The crewed mission to the moon. Or if we're gonna paint graffiti on
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Pete Hegseth
Exactly right. Right.
Joe Getty
So this didn't get near as much attention as I think it should have. PEW did a giant worldwide poll with tens of thousands of people asked in surveys a variety of questions. And one particular thing stood out. America, uniquely among countries in the world and by a lot, don't trust or have good feelings about their fellow citizens. A majority of Americans said people in their country have bad morals and ethics. Only country where it was a majority. And if you want to Compare it to other countries. For instance, in other countries such as Canada, 92% of Canadians feel that the other people they live with have good morals and ethics. 92% say it's good in America, it's 53% bad. In Mexico, 83% of people in Mexico think no other people in this country are good people. In Britain, 82% in Germany, 3/4 Israel, 70%. We are the only country that is upside down. And by a lot, what the hell is that all about?
Pete Hegseth
Boy howdy. I mean, part of it is diversity because if you don't have a shared set of what is good morals, you don't have a shared answer to that question. Then how in the world would you say, well, he has completely different morals than me, but he appears to stick to them. No, that's not the way people function.
Joe Getty
I don't know if that theory, that's part of it. I don't know if that theory fits in with this or not. The view in the United States is influenced by partisan divides. 60% of Democrats and Democratic leaning independents rated fellow American. Morals is bad compared to 46% of Republican and Republican leaders. Okay, so it's too high among Republicans, but it's significantly higher among Democrats to think the rest of their country is immoral and lacks ethics.
Pete Hegseth
Oh my gosh. That's, it's, that's probably the primary explainer. Although I'm sticking to my immigration thing too as a part explanation. It's what we've been talking about a fair amount lately, which is conservatives think most lefties are misguided. They're just wrong their policies aren't as good as they think they are. Whereas the left thinks conservatives are evil baby eating monsters. That's gotta be a significant factor. I'm reminded of this great quote. Who said this? I should have jotted down who said it. I think it was Matt Taibbi. Political disagreement is increasingly treated as a serious moral offense rather than a simple difference of opinion. When you see the world that way, punishing someone for holding different views becomes a moral good.
Joe Getty
Political polarization among the strongest anywhere in the world. In the United States, over 70% of Americans say conflicts between political parties are strong or very strong. They are correct. I would be with that 70%. But that is, we are an outlier in terms of that also, which probably fits in with the other number pretty well. Shouldn't it be a cause for concern that we stand out in so many ways in America? We are exceptional America also in the fact that we think the people we Live with suck. I mean, and like Canada, practically nobody thinks their fellow Canadians to suck the same way. In all these other countries, that's, that's a problem. And then one more thing to throw in. Very low trust in government. The US also stands out for extremely low institutional trust compared to other countries. Only 22% of Americans say they trust the federal government most of the time or always. I don't think I do. I mean, I'm in the majority. But by the way, it's 9% of Democrats and 26% of Republicans. I assume if you did this poll during Joe Biden's presidency, those numbers would flip. This is dramatically lower historically than numbers. For instance, in the 50s and 60s, 80% of people trusted their government most or most of the time or always. 80% now that was probably misplaced, but a number of 22% is incredibly low.
Pete Hegseth
I think it's all a measure of how far left the left has swung in this country. The bulk of the left, you know, the pig in the python. If you're looking at a chart of political beliefs, it's just the parties or the two philosophies used to be. So there was so much overlap and a few things over here on the right, a few things over there on the left that was not overlapped. But now the bulk of certainly the energy in the Democratic Party is way, way left.
Joe Getty
But just.
Pete Hegseth
And so as you switch parties, the what they do. I'm sorry, when you switch parties that are in power, what they're doing is so foreign or hostile to you, you can't support it, I guess.
Joe Getty
But culturally, can you turn that around? Has this ever happened before in the Roman Empire? Did the majority of people think, man, everybody in this empire sucks. It's not happening in other countries. We're the only country in the world that's like this, a majority. So I don't know what you say about that.
Pete Hegseth
Yeah, that's bad.
Joe Getty
It's unhealthy, certainly, I would say.
Pete Hegseth
Hey, on that topic, there are a couple of things to expand the discussion. Two one I think is going to have to come next segment. But Barack Obama is a rotten, rotten human being. I've never been a fan. You're an idiot, pretentious college lecturer who think all, thinks all the world is a, you know, think tank and you can just, you know, bore people into complying with your brilliance. Anyway, Obama's gonna come in for a kicking in a few minutes. But do you know the name David Boies? O I E S famous, famous attorney. Two of his most three most famous cases were unquestionably left or Democratic. He was Al Gore's lawyer and Bush v. Gore, and he represented the plaintiff in the case that invalidated the ban on same sex marriage in California. And he's had all sorts of super heavyweight clients. But anyway, he's definitely a Democrat. But he wrote a hell of a good piece. It's entitled Partisanship on Iran Is Dangerous for America. Trump is doing the right thing for the US and we Democrats should judge the war on its merits.
Joe Getty
Good for him.
Pete Hegseth
He opens with every past president since Bill Clinton, Republican and Democrat alike, has declared that Iran could not be permitted to develop nuclear weapons. I know not one acted to prevent it.
Joe Getty
I know there's several examples of that. But stating over and over again one thing, it is certainly true. And how many presidents said this, Iran will not be allowed to get a nuclear weapon. And everybody cheers. But you don't do anything to enforce that. Yeah, Trump finally does. And yeah, you kill him for it.
Pete Hegseth
He writes. Every president since Ronald Reagan has condemned Iran's role in terrorism against American citizens interests and allies. No one acted to stop it. Instead, each president left his successor with a more dangerous Iran and a more complicated threat to address. Last June, President Trump undertook a limited military operation designed to interrupt the development of nuclear weapons and discourage them from continuing, blah, blah, blah. In the face of Iran's refusal to come around, he began the current military campaign. I'm summarizing now back to the text. If he hadn't acted, his successor would have been left with an even more dangerous choice than his predecessors left him. Three or four years from now, the Iranian missiles now hitting Iran's neighbors could be hitting Berlin or London, perhaps even New York or Washington, perhaps with a nuclear device or at least a dirty bomb. No sensible person wants a war, a president least of all. Wars destroy lives, waste treasure, and are usually unpopular. But the widespread hostility to this military action seems untethered to any serious discussion
Joe Getty
of the merits, I would agree.
Pete Hegseth
What is the alternative? He asks.
Joe Getty
Boy, that is exactly what we've been saying, and I think reasonable people have been saying when I hear endlessly on all these other channels, why are we doing this? They still haven't explained.
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Joe Getty
Every president has explained it for decades. We can't let Iran get a nuclear weapon, and they're the weakest they've ever been, so let's stop them. Now, obviously, that's the end of the discussion.
Pete Hegseth
Well, right, right, it should be. But he asks, what is the alternative? Obviously, few are prepared to say it is simply to permit religious mad men who swear death to America and back up their threats with terrorism to secure nuclear weapons and the capability to deliver them. The scope and scale of Iran's response shows how much its military capabilities have progressed and how dangerous it would have been to permit them to increase further. For three decades, we've tried everything that each president could think of. We'd try being nice, talking tough, moral suasion, negotiated agreement, economic sanct.
Jacob Goldstein
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Pete Hegseth
The problem is that there's only one language Iran's leaders understand. And he goes on in that vein. But then he points out,
Joe Getty
I also
Pete Hegseth
understand and deplore the fringes of both parties that apparently hate Israel and Jews so much that they oppose any action to neutralize Iran, Israel's enemies. What is harder to understand, particularly troubling for our country, is opposition rooted simply in antipathy toward Trump himself. We used to, you know, and he goes into the history, blah, blah, blah, and then he goes into. Most important. Criticisms have historically been based on policy differences over the military action at hand, not knee jerk opposition to the President himself. Many Republicans supported Mr. Clinton's military actions and President Obama's surge in Afghanistan. Many Democrats supported George W. Bush's actions in Afghanistan and at least initially, Iraq. More Republicans than Democrats probably supported LBJ in Vietnam, et cetera. But this is just knee jerkism. And he points out it's just terrible for the country.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I was listening to a podcast yesterday in which they were discussing the fact that it sure seems like they're rooting against us on a lot of these cable news shows.
Pete Hegseth
Yeah, I would say so.
Joe Getty
That they want a negative result, that they would be gladdened by a negative result. And, you know, the following, the whole bombing of the school thing, they were really, you could, I feel like you could tell they're really hoping we hit that school. That that's. That turns out to be true.
Pete Hegseth
Yeah, they're really excited about reporting it. I could hear it in their voices.
Joe Getty
That's weird.
Pete Hegseth
You think any sane human being would have a spirit of, oh, man, this is bad news, folks. It looks like it was our missile. But no, their tone was, oh, this is great. This is exactly what I've been saying. The US Is evil because that's what
Joe Getty
they think and enjoy thinking it. For some reason, it gives them comfort, the crowd that makes them feel good to hate on America.
Pete Hegseth
So weird. They feel enlightened and accepted by their peers for expressing hatred of their own country. That's the long and short of it.
Joe Getty
Clearly all right, we got more on the way. Stay here.
Pete Hegseth
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Pete Hegseth
Also, one of Jerry Garcia's most famous guitars was auctioned and they expected it to get one to two million dollars. It went for eleven and a half million dollars.
Joe Getty
Which guitar?
Pete Hegseth
The tiger guitar.
Joe Getty
Okay. Wow. 11 million.
Pete Hegseth
Yeah.
Joe Getty
You know, if you're a super Grateful Dead fan who's got more money than you could possibly spend in a lifetime, it'd be freaking cool to have.
Pete Hegseth
What would your net worth have to be to spend 11 and a half million dollars on a guitar? Like, I would buy one of John Lennon's guitars or Paul McCartney's Hoffner bass or something like that.
Joe Getty
If I had unlimited cash, a tremendous amount.
Pete Hegseth
It'd have to be eleven and a half million. You'd have to have like 250 million, wouldn't you?
Joe Getty
Got at least. Yeah.
Pete Hegseth
You're gonna spend 5, 10% of your net worth on a guitar.
Joe Getty
Huh.
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Anyway, happy shopping. Oh, that's a. Do you know what a drop is? It's super hot in marketing these days. Everything's a drop. If everything's a drop, then nothing's a drop. We'll talk about dropping tomorrow or next hour, rather. So back to bitter partisanship and this. Don't anybody freak out. We're gonna point out that Trump and the Republicans did something dumb. And we're gonna point out that The Democrats are flaming hypocrites of the highest order. So a little criticism for everybody. It's about the gerrymandering fight that the Republicans, arguably the mid census, normally you wait till, what do you call it, decennial census, every 10 year census to do redistricting. Well, Trump was afraid of losing some House seats in Texas and so he redistricted to kind of beef. You know, our chances, the Republicans chances are hanging onto the House. And of course the Democrats are taking their revenge by further gerrymandering California and Virginia. And it is on Virginia that we're going to cast our gaze for a minute and here's why. The absolutely hilarious things being said and the people who are saying them about the gerrymandering in Virginia. The ballot language for the referendum, which is going to be in April, asks if voters want to let the legislature adopt a new House map to restore fairness, quote unquote, by which Democrats mean they'll be favored in four additional districts. Pretty safe looking districts. So they can take 10 out of the state's 11 seats to restore fairness. They're going to be taking 10 out of 11 seats in a state that went 46% for Trump bump.
Joe Getty
So practically a 50, 50 state when it comes to the presidential election. And it's going to be almost entirely democratic.
Pete Hegseth
91 to 9. Yes.
Joe Getty
With the representation. And if you haven't seen the way the lines are being drawn, it's the most, maybe the most egregious in the history of gerrymandering, which goes back to the founding of the country, Right?
Pete Hegseth
Indeed.
Joe Getty
And nobody's talking about it, by the way. You still hear talk about Texas and how outrageous it was. They did what they did.
Pete Hegseth
Barry Obama has now endorsed the referendum because of course he is, quote, free and fair elections are the cornerstone of our democracy, but right now they are under threat.
Joe Getty
He said all right.
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In an online video. This amendment gives you the power to level the playing field in the midterms this fall. What a way to characterize giving 9% of Virginia's seats to Republicans when they won 46% of the presidential vote. The ironies abound. During his last State of the Union address, Obama said, I think we've got to end the practice of drawing our congressional district so that politicians can pick their voters.
Joe Getty
Yes.
Pete Hegseth
Not the other way around. Correct. Let a bipartisan group do it.
Joe Getty
I agree with that.
Pete Hegseth
Barack Obama, an outfit like, I don't know, the Virginia redistricting commission. In 2020, 2/3 of the voters gave approval to a constitutional amendment to create the body, which is split between Democrats and Republicans, lawmakers and citizens. But it ended up deadlocked after the 2020 census, a frequen problem of such commissions. So Virginia's current house map was drawn by bipartisan experts under the state Supreme Court watch, blah, blah, blah. But now Obama calls for a gerrymandering exception in Virginia rather than the principles he so long espoused. You wonder why people turn off politics and politicians and just go about their lives. I mean, that is just, that's beyond hypocrisy. That's just, it's, it's disgusting.
Joe Getty
Race to the bottom.
Pete Hegseth
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's punching us in the genitals. Intellectually, it's an unforgivable attack. That's quite a phrase.
Joe Getty
It's. Is that the best you can come up with? Punching us in the genitals? Intellectually, yes.
Pete Hegseth
Utterly. By anybody's standards. A horrible thing to do. We do not have time for this kind of silliness.
Joe Getty
I agree.
Pete Hegseth
What a piece of crap you are.
Joe Getty
Wow, that's rough.
Pete Hegseth
That's partisan. I apologize.
Joe Getty
We're checking on the Iran war. There's some interesting doings. I hope you can join us now.
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Episode Title: The Future Doesn't Want My Brain... The Present Barely Does
Air Date: March 13, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty
Featured Guest: Pete Hegseth (contextually acting as Secretary of War in this episode's news discussion)
This episode dives into timely and wide-ranging topics including the escalating U.S.–Iran conflict and its global implications, recent breakthroughs in brain cryopreservation, and a deep examination of American trust, partisanship, and political hypocrisy. The hosts keep their trademark irreverent banter and incisive commentary throughout, balancing weighty news with lighter moments and satirical takes.
[03:44 – 11:58] Pete Hegseth, Joe Getty
U.S. Military Successes, but Strategic Risks:
Pete opens by declaring U.S. decimation of Iran’s military unmatched in modern times, but Joe quickly pivots to the ongoing crisis at the Strait of Hormuz.
Iranian Leadership Crisis:
Pete claims the new Iranian “supreme leader” is likely wounded and hiding, signaling disarray within Iran’s leadership.
Failure to Secure Shipping Lanes:
The hosts focus on the fact that, despite U.S. military dominance, the strategic priority—the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz—is unresolved.
The Drone Dilemma & Military Challenges:
Hosts discuss institutional preparedness, speculating that the White House may have underestimated Iran’s willingness to “burn everything down” out of religious ideology.
[14:44 – 23:49] Pete Hegseth, Joe Getty
Science Update:
New German research has successfully frozen and thawed mouse brain tissue without damaging cells, raising tantalizing (and unsettling) possibilities.
Philosophical Implications:
The team riffs on the existential horror of disembodied consciousness, debating whether “just a brain in a jar” would be a fate worth pursuing.
Limits and Next Steps:
The technology is a first step—vitrification avoids brain cell damage, but practical revival and embodiment are far off.
[28:08 – 33:37] Joe Getty, Pete Hegseth
PEW Study:
A Pew poll shows most Americans have negative views of their fellow citizens' morals—uniquely among surveyed nations.
Political Polarization:
The lack of shared values and deep party divides are seen as root causes.
Historical Shift:
U.S. trust in government institutions is at a historic low (22%), compared to far higher numbers in the 1950s and 60s.
[33:37 – 39:17] Pete Hegseth, Joe Getty
David Boies’ Bipartisan Plea:
The prominent Democratic attorney argues in a recent op-ed that Democrats should give Trump credit for confronting Iran militarily when prior presidents only issued warnings.
Media 'Rooting Against America':
Hosts discuss the notion that cable news and commentariat sometimes seem to want U.S. failure for partisan satisfaction.
[44:02 – 48:11] Pete Hegseth, Joe Getty
Virginia Redistricting Debacle:
The Democrats push a new House map in Virginia under the banner of "restoring fairness"—but it would give them 10 out of 11 seats in a 46% Trump state.
Obama’s Changed Tune on Gerrymandering:
Obama, previously a vocal opponent of partisan map-drawing, now supports the Virginia push, highlighting shameless partisanship.
On Religious Fanaticism:
On Brain Cryopreservation:
On American Cynicism:
On Partisan Hypocrisy:
The episode blends sharp policy critique with playful cynicism and conversational humor. Hosts leap nimbly from global conflict to weird science, always with a dash of skepticism toward political and media elites. As always, Armstrong & Getty challenge prevailing narratives, sometimes with biting satire.
This episode offers a brisk but thorough take on some of today’s most complex issues—from the shifting map of international conflict to philosophical quandaries about identity, and the fraying social fabric holding America together. The hosts are unafraid to criticize any side or digress into the absurd, making the episode both informative and entertaining for newcomers and longtime listeners alike.