The God Of Thunder

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "The God Of Thunder"

Date: March 24, 2026 | Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong and Getty tackle a diverse range of topics, from under-discussed history of slavery in the Islamic world and the cultural self-perception shifts in Western societies, to quirky trends like sword yoga, updates on Middle Eastern geopolitics, and a discussion of law enforcement accountability using the Afroman legal saga. The dialogue is candid, at times humorous, and always marked by the hosts’ signature blend of skepticism and wit.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Slavery in the Islamic World and Historical Perspective

• Discussion Summary:
  Jack introduces a book review on Captives: A History of Slavery and the Slave Trade in the Islamic World by Justin Marozzi, highlighting the long and largely overlooked history of slavery outside the Western context.
• Key Points:
  • The trans-Saharan and Islamic slave trade lasted for 1400 years, involved more victims than the transatlantic trade, and is less studied or discussed.
  • Modern demands for reparations are much softer (or absent) in nations formerly affected by Islamic world slavery, unlike in Western settings with open debate and scholarship.
  • The Quran’s position: does not abolish but institutionalizes the practice of slavery, which Jack and Joe discuss in the frame of how religions and societies historically adapt to norms.
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “Perspective is never a bad thing.” — Jack Armstrong (04:24)
  • “For every gallon of ink that has been spilt on the transatlantic slave trade... one very small drop has been spilt on the study of the forced migration of black Africans into the Mediterranean world of Islam.” — Quoting John Hunwick, via Jack Armstrong (08:57)
  • “The Quran also permits a male slave owner to have sex with his female slaves, a godly green light whose terrible modern day consequences include the depraved enslavement and rape of Yazidi women and girls in northern Iraq by so-called Islamic State fighters.” — Jack Armstrong (10:17)
• Timestamps: 03:33–10:52

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2. Western Cultural Critique & Civilizational Self-Image

• Discussion Summary:
  Building on the theme of historical reckoning, the hosts discuss Western societies’ tendency for self-critique, sometimes bordering on self-loathing, contrasting it with the confidence and forward-looking attitudes in many Eastern and Middle Eastern nations.
• Key Points:
  • The West is described as being caught in a loop of cultural self-criticism, which may be linked to its affluence and decadence.
  • The dangers of ignoring both the positive and negative aspects of one’s own culture.
  • Reference to Tucker Carlson’s argument that cities in the Middle East are thriving with pride, while Western cities appear demoralized.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “Self-hatred, you know…” — Jack Armstrong (12:14)
  • “There is something about affluence that causes people to engage in counterproductive navel gazing... It makes us feel enlightened or something.” — Jack Armstrong (13:17)
  • “Their attitude is forward looking and outward looking. In ours a lot of Western civilization is the opposite.” — Jack Armstrong (14:40)
• Timestamps: 10:52–15:07

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3. Cultural Trends: Sword Yoga & Modern Escapism

• Discussion Summary:
  Armstrong and Getty dissect the latest wellness fad: “sword yoga,” critiquing its necessity and what it says about modern lives, and making broader points about purpose, responsibility, and distraction among younger, affluent populations.
• Key Points:
  • Sword yoga involves actual swords and is seen as a form of “empowerment,” but the hosts see it as symptomatic of too much free time and lack of real-world responsibilities among the young and affluent.
  • A comedic aside about naming golf clubs, with Armstrong mentioning his driver named “The God of Thunder.”
• Notable Quotes:
  • “Have some kids. You’ll be too damned busy to think about any of this crap.” — Joe Getty (20:36)
  • “Human beings are not meant to be without responsibility. It’s the worst thing you can do.” — Jack Armstrong (20:58)
  • “My driver actually has a name. The God of Thunder...” — Jack Armstrong (22:04)
• Timestamps: 19:00–22:24

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4. Free Speech, Comedy, and Fear of Offense

• Discussion Summary: The hosts touch on the line comedians must walk when joking about certain groups—specifically, the chilling effect on jokes about Muslims due to threats—and the broader implications for free speech and equal treatment in satire.
• Key Points:
  • Comedians are pressured to avoid Muslim jokes due to threats, but other religions or groups are subject to satire without backlash.
  • Societies or groups that “stand up for themselves” (often in the wrong way) paradoxically seem to enforce a kind of respect via fear.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “So you can make fun of any other group that doesn’t threaten violence, but not the group that does threaten violence.” — Joe Getty (22:47)
  • “That’s not going to work long term.” — Joe Getty (22:54)
• Timestamps: 22:31–23:26

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5. Middle East Geopolitics: Troop Movements & Diplomatic Maneuvers

• Discussion Summary:
  Armstrong and Getty update listeners on mounting tensions in the Middle East—U.S. and French military moves, negotiations regarding Iran, and the regional implications of destabilization, especially regarding nuclear weapons.
• Key Points:
  • Troop deployments (notably the 82nd Airborne) and French carrier activity illustrate rising concern in the region.
  • Open source intelligence gathering now informs the public and governments with greater transparency—e.g., a sailor sharing his fitness route inadvertently reveals the carrier’s location.
  • Gulf states want the U.S. to “finish the job” in Iran now that the situation has destabilized.
  • The ever-present danger of nuclear proliferation if Iran obtains a bomb and regional rivals respond in kind.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “How do you negotiate with a death culture? What do you offer them? What do you threaten them with?” — Jack Armstrong (32:12)
  • “Many of them religious fanatics... and hating each other.” — Joe Getty (34:49)
  • “I have no use for Barry Obama, but he was the one who famously when asked what keeps you awake at night, he says Pakistan.” — Jack Armstrong (35:17)
• Timestamps: 26:05–35:54

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6. Afroman Legal Saga and Law Enforcement Accountability

• Discussion Summary:
  The hosts respond to listener feedback on the Afroman case, where the musician was cleared by a jury but still faces crippling legal costs due to a wrongful raid and a problematic police informant.
• Key Points:
  • Details emerge about police misconduct: a corrupt officer coerced a sex worker to falsely accuse Afroman as part of a wider abuse of power.
  • Despite being cleared, Afroman faces financial ruin, highlighting flaws in civil justice outcomes.
  • Broader reflection: About a quarter of cops, according to insider accounts, shouldn’t be cops at all.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “If you end up financially ruined for the rest of your life, it’s a hollow victory.” — Joe Getty (43:50)
  • “About a quarter of cops shouldn’t be cops, according to other good cops, for a bunch of different reasons, which is troubling.” — Jack Armstrong (46:47)
• Timestamps: 41:31–47:07

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7. Final Thoughts & Lighter Moments

• Segment Highlights:
  • Celebrating team member Katie Green’s birthday (“Watching you grow into your womanhood gets more special every year!” — Jack Armstrong, 46:03)
  • Laughing at bad haircuts ("Check it out on the website. I seriously had to pause it twice—I thought I would hurt myself." — Jack Armstrong, 46:23)
  • Reflection on repeating mistakes of history (“Every generation thinks the great sometimes terrible things of history... couldn’t happen now. ...boy, is that wrong.” — Jack Armstrong, 47:06)
• Timestamps: 45:31–47:46

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Notable Quotes (with Attribution & Timestamps)

• “Perspective is never a bad thing.” — Jack Armstrong (04:24)
• “For every gallon of ink that has been spilt on the transatlantic slave trade... one very small drop has been spilt on the study of the forced migration of black Africans into the Mediterranean world of Islam.” — Jack Armstrong quoting John Hunwick (08:57)
• “There is something about affluence that causes people to engage in counterproductive navel gazing... It makes us feel enlightened or something.” — Jack Armstrong (13:17)
• “Have some kids. You’ll be too damned busy to think about any of this crap.” — Joe Getty (20:36)
• “So you can make fun of any other group that doesn’t threaten violence, but not the group that does threaten violence.” — Joe Getty (22:47)
• “How do you negotiate with a death culture? What do you offer them? What do you threaten them with?” — Jack Armstrong (32:12)
• “About a quarter of cops shouldn’t be cops, according to other good cops, for a bunch of different reasons, which is troubling.” — Jack Armstrong (46:47)
• “Every generation thinks the great sometimes terrible things of history... couldn’t happen now. ...boy, is that wrong.” — Jack Armstrong (47:06)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Slavery in Islamic World & Book Discussion: 03:33–10:52
• Western Self-Image & Decadence: 10:52–15:07
• Sword Yoga & Escapism: 19:00–22:24
• Comedy & Sensitive Subjects: 22:31–23:26
• Middle East Tensions & Geopolitics: 26:05–35:54
• Afroman Legal Case & Police Accountability: 41:31–47:07
• Final Thoughts & Humor: 45:31–47:46

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Style & Tone

The episode is candid, wryly humorous, and conversational, with both hosts interjecting personal asides and jokes throughout even as they analyze serious topics. As always, Armstrong and Getty mix high-minded critique with everyday skepticism and a distinctly American cultural lens.

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This summary covers all major topics and arguments, key quotes, and moments, making it accessible and valuable for both regular listeners and newcomers.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

Longer than your actual trip. Escalating threats in the Middle East.

[Jack Armstrong]

Planes driving into trucks.

[Joe Getty]

The only thing giving me joy is

[Jack Armstrong]

looking forward to this season of the Bachelorette. I mean, they've got a strong Mormon woman. She seems lovely.

[Joe Getty]

I hope that she finds.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hold on a second. I'm getting a call. No.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, if you can't count on people who are willing to try to fall in love on a televised game show,

[Jack Armstrong]

who can you count, right? These are troubled times, Jack. Troubled times.

[Joe Getty]

I think the Arab countries have had it with Iran based on a couple of stories that are breaking today. So we'll get to that a little bit later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of the Arab countries found this absolutely fascinating. The slavery story you won't learn in school. It's a review and discussion of a book entitled Captives and A History of Slavery and the Slave Trade in the Islamic World by Justin Merazi. And actually the reviewer, whose name is Tunku Voradarajan. I can't believe I got through. That makes it clear. A number of paragraphs in. Look, this is in no way some sort of trying to excuse the transatlantic slave trade. It's just perspective. And perspective is never a bad thing. I'll read some of it to you. Jump in anytime you want. Interrupt. For historians of human enslavement, and for black Africans more generally, the recently concluded African Nation Soccer cup revealed images of an ugliness that has roots in the Muslim world's trans Saharan slave trade. They mention at the Senegal Morocco final sections of the Moroccan crowd hurled racial insults at the Senegalese, just as Algerian spectators had earlier in the tournament when their team was beaten by Nigeria. Get the back. Get the black slave. Affronted, Algerian soccer fans chanted. Anyway, in Captives and Companions, Justin Morozi offers an engrossing and depressing account of this cross Saharan trade in slaves. It's this. This won't be depressing on the show. It was conducted the sub Saharan the cross Saharan trade enslaved was conducted largely unmolested by the Arabs and Ottoman Turks for 1400 years. Wow. Targeting eastern central and western Africa, the violent capture, trafficking, sale and possession of black Africans by Muslims from the north of the continent, the lands of Arabia and Greater Turkey endured as a practice for far longer than the transatlantic slave trade and turned many more humans into chattel did the white European and American slavers and the slave owners of the Western hemisphere, primarily in Central and South America. As you may know, 17 million of this Muslim slave trade as opposed to 11 million in the new World. Both numbers are horrific, as is the denial of liberty or the forced labor of any human being. But back in the day it was practically ubiquitous around the world. Slaves were everywhere. And this number doesn't include the white slaves taken in the hundreds of thousands by Barbary pirates from Ireland, Spain and Italy and by the Ottomans from Greece, the Caucuses and the oft ravaged Slavic lands about whom Morosi writes with as much sympathy and humanity as he does those who are abducted from black Africa. No humanity toward blacks was shown by the many Muslim commentators who had held forth on current affairs and culture in the so called Muslim golden age. Jahis, a literature and commentator from the 9th century, wrote disparagingly of black Africans called the Zanj by Arabs, quote like the crow among mankind or the Zanj, for they are the worst of men and the most vicious of creatures in character and temperament. Then he gets into the no comparison is intended to minimize the vileness of the Western slave trade. Self evident. But it is worth noting that modern day criticisms of slavery, including demands for reparations, are voiced at a much lower volume by the descendants of those who are on the receiving end of slavery in the Islamic world, if they are voiced at all. Any name check Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, where you have no constitutional protections and you can't ask for anything really. And then he points out, forget criticism of Arab on African slavery. There's scarcely enough basic scholarship on the subject when compared to the academic outpourings on white on African enslavement achievement. Morose quotes the late John Hunwick, a pioneering scholar of Islam in sub Saharan Africa who wrote for every gallon of ink that has been spilt on the transatlantic slave trade and its consequences, for every gallon, one very small drop has been spilt on the study of the forced migration of Black Africans into the Mediterranean world of Islam and the broader question of slavery within Muslim societies. And this guy is one of the foremost historians of the Arab world, both ancient and modern. As late as oh, slavery in the Muslim world has demonstrated, he tells us, extraordinary longevity continuing well into the modern era. As late as the early 1950s. The 1950s, the first workers in the Qatari oil sector were enslaved men. The last countries to formally abolish slavery are all of the Muslim world. Iran in 1929, Yemen and Saudi Arabia in 1962, Turkey in 1964.

[Joe Getty]

Saudi Arabia got rid of slavery three years before I was born, correct?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Turkey in 64, Oman in 1970, and most notoriously Mauritania, which abolished slavery as recently as 1981, 12 years after man set foot foot on the moon. The last country to outlaw slavery in the Western hemisphere was Brazil in 1888. And although slavery predates Islam, which is dated to have begun in 610 A.D. the practice received divine blessings from The Quran. The holy book of the Muslims states that the inequality between master and slave is divinely ordained. And writes Morose, acknowledges that we are not all free. Slavery is, quote, part of the natural order. The Quran accepts it and is not proposing to abolish it. This was, says Morozi, a most politic position for the newly minted Quran to take, quote, for a society accustomed to slavery from time immemorial, ruling it out at the outset would have done nothing to make Islam an attractive new alternative to tried and trusted paganism. Polytheism for most people apart, we might imagine, from the slaves. And the prohibition of slavery would have spelled Islam's failure. The Quran also permits a male slave owner to have sex with his female slaves, a godly green light whose terrible modern day consequences include the, quote, depraved enslavement and rape of Yazidi women and girls in northern Iraq by so called Islamic State fighters. And there's more of this, but I think you've gotten the main idea.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I don't know if this fits with this or not, but I was watching a Tucker Carlson video with somebody he had on doesn't matter who and he gave a little screed that is making the rounds on social media and being attacked in a certain way. But he really had a point. His conclusion I don't agree with, but he really had a point. Tucker was talking about how you travel around Western cities and they're all like in decline as opposed to, he said cities in the Middle east and in the east are on the Rise. And the people there are like proud of their culture and, and aggressively promoting their culture and want to spread their culture. And although the Western cities are in decline, ashamed of their culture, think the

[Jack Armstrong]

world would be better off with fewer of them.

[Joe Getty]

That is absolutely true. Now his conclusion that therefore China's system is better or, you know, whatever you call the kingdoms of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain or better or whatever, I, you know, that's, that's where it all falls apart to me. But there's no doubt that our culture is constantly apologizing for ourselves and kind of ashamed of our history and, you know, be better off if somebody else ran the world because we ignore stuff like what you just said.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Self hatred, you know, too.

[Joe Getty]

I've been saying this for a long time. Is it really necessary? All the stuff about, you know, we don't want to whitewash our history and everything like that. Okay, I agree with that. I agree with that generally, but what's the point of emphasizing the worst parts of your history and like, well, what,

[Jack Armstrong]

Spending all your time on that.

[Joe Getty]

What are we trying to do?

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the opposite of whitewashing? Because that's what academia and the media do all the time. They pretend that the unbelievable achievements of Western civilization didn't happen or Western civilization should get no credit for them, or they're deeply ashamed of them. Because the other stuff. What's the opposite of whitewashing, slander or character assassination? I guess, you know, decadence or. What was I going to. I had the phrase in my mind. Oh. Affluence often leads to decadence. Decadence meaning characterized by or reflecting a state of moral or cultural decline. F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote a book about that in part starred a guy by the name of Jay Gatsby. Perhaps you've read it. But there is something about affluence that causes people to engage in counterproductive navel gazing, obsessive self examination, self flagellation, whipping ourselves, beating ourselves. It makes us feel enlightened or something. I don't know exactly how it works psychologically. I'm apparently immune to it. I'm acutely aware of virtually every horror that's taken place in the United States and in the name of the United States, at least plenty to know. Have a realistic view. I could go through the list, but you've heard it a million times and recognize that the Founding Fathers and the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and the Enlightenment are the best things that have ever happened to mankind. Both are true. I don't get you people who I Don't. I just don't get it.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know if there's any breaking out of that though that a lot of your, you know, the, the Dubai's of the world and all your Chinese cities, everything, they're. They're aggressively growing. Expanding. Enthusiastic about themselves and their culture and we're shrinking and, and ashamed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, you're. You know that's interesting that you just. That's. It's such a good insight. Just their attitude is forward looking and outward looking. In ours a lot of Western civilization is the opposite. I don't know what to do about it.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly right about that. It's just his conclusion is wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, his conclusion is bizarre and idiotic.

[Joe Getty]

But yeah, probably paid for by the Qataris.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe people who hate this country and Western civilization. We could round them up and make them do labor without. No, no. It was a joke.

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[Jack Armstrong]

That was a joke. It was a dark joke. It was a joke. It's clearly a joke.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Be pretty, Andy.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. The latest incarnation of stupid trendy yoga coming up.

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Oh God.

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When we have the sword extended in front of us, creating that long line. Instead of having the edge of your sword facing up to the ceiling, let your palm open up towards the ceiling. This way it creates a really clean straight line where you can always focus at the tip of your sword.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, okay. Sword yoga is the hot new yoga trend in New York City. Jack, you know, oh, we gotta have a pool. How long will this trend last?

[Joe Getty]

Sword yoga. But they don't actually use swords.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, they do. They actually have swords. Yeah, we were talking about snake yoga. That was Portland, right? Yeah. Oh, you gotta put sword yoga together with snake yoga. Be a bloody mess, but barbaric. The only yoga trend I've seen that's acceptable is Wiener Dog Puppy yoga. Oh, wait a minute. You may get. You may got me there yeah, I'm into that.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I'm just gonna read this. Katya Saturday, that's her name is all up in arms. But the no nonsense New Yorker isn't angry. She's empowered through sword yoga. And a steel 30 inch double edged blade named Golden Hour is her preferred instrument of independence. It's a tool of self expression and freedom. The 25 year old woman told the Post. The sword is like a magic wand that gives me a sense of graceful power. When I hold it I feel like a force of femininity, beauty and strength added the force to be reckoned with. One in the rising army of everyday dynamos leading the sword yoga fitness charge. It's a girl powered movement aimed at getting in shape while getting their slice of the action. Oh for God's sake. This whole thing makes me want to vomit.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I always have the same response to this sort of stuff. Have some kids. Have some kids. You'll be too damned busy to think about any of this crap. You know why your parents didn't do this crap? Because they had kids. They had jobs and kids and they were busy all the time. The. The. The young affluent single set with no children has too much time on their hands and it brings us stuff like sword yoga.

[Jack Armstrong]

Interestingly, the next thing she says makes your point. She suffers from chronic panic attacks and laud sword yoga is her firm foundation during trying times. Quote, when I feel an attack, I rely on the training and breathing techniques. She says. Exactly. You're focusing on something other than yourself. It's funny that it reminds me of our discussion about a country that's. That is obsessively inward looking and navel gazing. It'll make you insane. Human beings are not meant to be without responsibility. It's the worst thing you can do. An AI will bring it to all of us at someday. Yeah, but she says now if I'm feeling anxious, I'll grab Golden Hour. That's the name of her sword. Jack is your favorite call from six or seven sentences ago. Or a lightsaber and get into a sword yoga pose. It forces me to get out of that negative space and get present in my body.

[Joe Getty]

The number of people that are willing to say stuff like this out loud and don't think they're mockable.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've got to name all my golf clubs. My driver actually has a name. The God of Thunder. You're actually a pretty good reason as well. It's got a. It's a Japanese made product like most golf shafts are. And it has a cartoon drawing of the Japanese God of thunder on it. Raijin. Yes, I got.

[Joe Getty]

I gotta name all of them though.

[Jack Armstrong]

The seven iron. What do I call him? I don't know. Jimmy the seven Iron. I'll have to think about it.

[Joe Getty]

You know, speaking of kind of what we were talking about earlier, various times of the day, I just came across a comedian who has a Netflix special and was told he needs to pull his Muslim jokes because when any comedians do any jokes about Muslims, they get all kinds of bomb threats and death

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threats, stuff like that.

[Joe Getty]

So you can make fun of any other group that doesn't threaten violence, but not the group that does threaten violence.

[Jack Armstrong]

You see how that.

[Joe Getty]

That's not going to work long term.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've got to find the audio to a young person's radio show from Europe in which they were smashing things and they smashed some Christian icons. And the commentator asked him, why didn't you smash any Muslim icons? And they're like, well, that'd probably be dangerous. So we couldn't. Yes, and they didn't smash any Jewish icons either.

[Joe Getty]

But the culture that stands up for itself, not that I'm advocating violence wins is what happens there. We got a lot more on the way. Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it looks like that is happening. I don't know if you ever follow open source intelligence, but they it's really an interesting thing that goes on in the world now because we've got all this satellite stuff and communication and cell phone pings and just all kinds of way to pick up things that are going on in the world that are just open source intelligence. It's stuff that's out there. If you got your eyes open or can communicate with people that exist, it's hard to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, before you get into the serious stuff, I was just reading how the French sent an aircraft carrier in the direction of the business and this. Isn't that right? No, this. Okay. And at least one of their sailors with a fitness app was jogging around the deck getting his physical training in the rest of it, but he was logging it all on his fitness app that then posted it publicly. So you had the precise location of the aircraft carrier every time he went for a jog.

[Joe Getty]

Yep. That's open source intelligence. And there's tons of stuff like that. It's super fascinating. When the Ukraine, Russia war began, I remember listening to a guy talk about all the things they could pick up about troop movements based on cell phone pings and, and like doordash receipts and just, I mean all kinds of stuff. It was just amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, the open source today has deployment of the 82nd Airborne Division from Fort Bragg as well as other units from the US army appears to be underway from bases within the continental United States toward the Middle east as staging continues for potential ground operations in Iran. We're have marines in the 82nd Airborne there and we are going to take Karga island and the Strait of Hormuz like it's something on a World War II or Vietnam. And.

[Jack Armstrong]

And is that it? I mean, obviously that's not it it. But what are the goals?

[Joe Getty]

How long do we hold on to it? Well, it takes away all of Iran's leverage. They have no leverage once we control the Strait of Hormuz or open it back up for everybody else. As Trump has been making the argument and it doesn't seem to be landing. We don't really need the straight to be open that much and we can produce our own oil. You all European countries and China and everybody else, you need a board and we need it. Why aren't you opening it back up?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. Well, I think he's twisting arms good and hard. I mean a full to panty waist Macron is sending an aircraft carrier.

[Joe Getty]

It's French aircraft. Who's got the balls in that family?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, sure, sure. Allegedly.

[Joe Getty]

Ask Candace Owens.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right. Wow. Okay. So I was somewhat skeptical about the state of the negotiations. Y. It was Very, very mysterious. But the Wall Street Journal has some great sources in the Middle East. I was speculating earlier, it's because all the oil sheiks, and I mean several levels down, read the Wall Street Journal, they're all about business at this point. I mean, you got your gleaming cities, your Dubai's and UAE's and all those, those places, all those cities are about business. They're not like manufacturing motor cars or textiles or anything like that. Anyway, I'll bet they read the foreign ministers from. Is that the. Where I wanted to start? Yes. Foreign ministers from Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan gathered before dawn the other day in Riyadh for talks aimed at finding a diplomatic off ramp to the war in Iran. The one big problem was finding a counterpart in Iran to negotiate with. Earlier that week, Israel killed Iran's national security chief. Ali Larajani had been considered a viable partner who could engage in the West. But Egyptian intelligence officials managed to open a channel with the IRGC and put forward proposals to halt hostilities for five days to build confidence for a cease fire. And it was those discussions that made Trump reverse field on his 48 hour ultimatum to open the straight to four moves. Because he got word from our Gulf allies that, hey, we're actually making progress on this. Give us a little time now. Now what's happening right now is less clear, but there are discussions going on, sensitive diplomatic discussions that the White House says will not negotiate through the press. This is a fluid situation. Speculation about meetings should not be deemed as final until they are formally announced by the White House.

[Joe Getty]

Well, so Iran's opening position was ridiculous. I mean, it was one of the most ridiculous opening positions of negotiation I've ever heard in my life. You need to stop bombing us. You need to pay us reparations for everything you've damaged. No more American troops in the Middle East. I mean, just if you're opening position on. You went to look at somebody's car and said, I'll give you, not only will I not pay you $45,000 for this car, I need you to give me a thousand dollars and, and clean my bathrooms.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Here's just like, why even try to negotiate with that starting position?

[Jack Armstrong]

Here is a serious question and

[Joe Getty]

I'm

[Jack Armstrong]

about to characterize the regime and it's not 100% accurate, but it's, it's pretty damned accurate. It's 100% accurate for some of the important people involved. Here's the question. How do you negotiate with a death culture? What do you offer them? What do you Threaten them with. I would have to think long and hard about that. And a lot of the world has for a long time not really come up with the answer. I don't know, a violent, violence, exporting, crusading, death cult. I think the answer throughout history has been you kill them. And by God, if there's some way we could free the poor, 80% of Iran that wants to be free. Oh, that would be one of the great victims for liberty and certainly the last couple of centuries. Tough nut to crack, though.

[Joe Getty]

So Ian Bremmer, who looks at the whole world, tweeted a couple hours ago, saudi Arabia and the UAE are pushing Trump to continue the war, further degrade Iran's capabilities. And it shows just how much Gulf countries are worried about the viability of their economic models in today's geopolitical environment. That's interesting. They didn't want a regime change war against Iran to start. Both the United States having now broken the geopolitical status quo, they want the Americans to own the outcome. That would be Iran falling, us sticking it out so that Iran's a different kind of country. Like I was talking about earlier, can you imagine a Middle east that's peaceful, like, you can go to it like you go to Europe. What if that's possible in my lifetime?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, likely. So I think the Saudi's point of view is, you know, we're coexisting with that big giant hornet's nest there extremely uncomfortably. But now that you've knocked it down, don't like, oh, don't spray it, don't spray it. No, no, please finish the job. Because the Hornets are never gonna be nice again to the extent that they ever were. I gotta believe that that's their, their point of view.

[Joe Getty]

And I had forgotten because I've read a lot about this over the many, many years. Saudi Arabia is supposed to be like a screwdriver turn away from having a bomb themselves if they ever want one. So what would happen if Iran got the bomb? Is all of a sudden Saudi Arabia would announce, so do we in the UAE would say, and we do too. And Qatar would say, and we got one. And you just have a Middle east full of people with nuclear weapons all of a sudden.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Many of them religious fanatics.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And. And hating each other.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Then the whole Sunni, Shia thing becomes a whole different proposition.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, I was watching a mini documentary on the reality is in Pakistan, that is a rough, rough country. And they have nukes. How has that not gone sideways?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

In all these years, I'm glad It hasn't.

[Joe Getty]

I'll bet we spend way more time keeping an eye on where those nukes are than you think or that is written about.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have no use for Barry Obama, but he was the one who famously when asked what keeps you awake at night, he says Pakistan. Yeah, of course he would say Pakistan

[Joe Getty]

because he's smarter than all religious nut jobs. Get a hold of those nuclear weapons. That's gonna happen someday. Hopefully not anytime soon.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope they shoot him in the

[Joe Getty]

other direction at each other. Let God sort them out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huh?

[Joe Getty]

I gotta get a T shirt that says that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's a throwback. That's great. It's a 2002 throwback.

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I have got such a low brow idea for the podcast today for the Armstrong and Getty One More Thing podcast that we record after the show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now that's. That's a threat.

[Joe Getty]

It came up an actual conversation with, with someone about couples and things that they. They do and don't do in front of each other. And then I did some research on it and it's really interesting and I just wondered if I. I wondered if I was the normal person or the outlier on this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael, here is my option for the One More Thing podcast. You and Katie will be the two person co presidents to determine where we go. I would like to talk about the most unique and fascinating book in the Harvard library. That's a tough one.

[Joe Getty]

Joe goes super highbrow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael. I think I'll go with Jack. Katie. Oh, you. I work.

[Joe Getty]

I need his input. I need Katie's input, I need Joe's input. I need to know if I am the outlier or I'm in the normal. It seems to be a 6040 issue according to most studies.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have never signed on to reveal my marital secrets.

[Joe Getty]

You have not.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we'll. We'll see how that goes.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you could always just. Yeah, you could do. You could be the famous thing we always talk about in polls. Decline, decline, declined to state.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is different than no opinion.

[Joe Getty]

Sure, I have an opinion. It's just none of your business.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not sure how I feel about

[Joe Getty]

your assumption that I'm going to share either though. Jack, you don't have to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you're very earthy. People love that about you.

[Joe Getty]

Damn. Anyway, that'll be the One More Thing podcast which is separate from all the segments of the Armstrong and Getty show.

[Jack Armstrong]

So it's a super bonus segment that

[Joe Getty]

sometimes has swears that sometimes I swears. Exactly. We will finish strong.

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[Joe Getty]

Former speaker Newt Gingrich with a heck of a warning about how this is an historic turning point for the entire world. What's going on with Iran? Maybe we'll get to that tomorrow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Before we go, a couple of things to squeeze in really, really quickly. Rearranging. Oh, there it is. We were talking and joking about the wildlife bridge in California a number of days ago and, and just being silly. And as it turns out, those wildlife bridges are actually really, really successful. But the one in California is being greeted with how could you consist inconceivably spend that much money on it. Right. People can't imagine. It's like, did you take your car into the shop? Yeah, I did. The bill was a hundred thousand dollars. People like, that's impossible that you can't possibly spend that much. And that's the story of that, that wildlife bridge in SoCal. Just insane. And it's just nobody cares. Okay, okay, then I don't care if you don't care. Care. I don't care. And then this. Oh, is this it? Where is it? Sorry, Rearranged tabs and I lost the one I wanted. Oh, that's right. Thanks to some of our alert listeners. I thought surely for like the third time. It was the final word on the Afroman thing when we talked about that. But two things. We got an email pointing out that he was not liable. That's what you say in triple civil trial on every single count. But the judge said you got to pay half the legal costs. Whoa. Which was millions of dollars. Whoa. Why? I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I did nothing illegal or wrong. They got a warrant, they came into my house. They didn't find anything. Then I commented on it, which is my right. That was found to be true by a court. I get to say whatever I want. I owe millions of dollars now.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it was an outrageous abuse of government power. Right. Specifically. Thanks for the note, Andy. I gotta dig more into that. Jerry cleared him on all 13 counts.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's nice, but if you end up financially ruined for the rest of your life, it's a hollow victory.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Indeed. Well, that's why he's hustling and making videos and selling merch and stuff. He needs the money. That's obscene. I'll have to dig more into that. And then the final, final, final Afroman thing he sent along helpfully by Drew the millennial is. You asked how they got the warrant? Well, they had a confidential informant who put the finger on Afroman. It was one of the women who was arrested by this officer. Brian Newborn. Or is that his name? Brian Newborn. Oh, Brian Newland. He would arrest women for drug offenses and make them service him sexually. In return for not sending them to jail or not filing the charges. He would then release them. And he took one of his blackmailed sex victims and told her. And you got to do one more thing for me. You got to say that this guy is as dirty and has lots of drugs in his house and kidnapped somebody. So she obediently did it. But now she's posting on. Posting on social media that, yeah, he blackmailed me into doing it. That's the only reason I put the finger on Afro Man.

[Joe Getty]

How horrifying is it that somebody like that ever got a badge and a gun?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I know. It's absolutely awful. Afroman, American hero.

[Joe Getty]

We have. In case you haven't heard us say this before, I'll save it for my one more thing comment. I've got a good one more thing coming. I mean, what do we call it? Is that.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Final thoughts. Final thoughts.

[Joe Getty]

That's what we call it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I forgot I said final. You say thoughts. Final thoughts. Final thoughts. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Final thoughts is what we call it. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe

[Jack Armstrong]

G. Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the day. Michelangelo, will you lead the way, please? Final thought.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I Want to wish happy birthday

[Jack Armstrong]

to our own Katie Green today? Oh, so it is your birthday and just Katie, watching you, watching you grow into your womanhood gets more special every year.

[Joe Getty]

That is the most cringy thing I've ever heard. That's fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

That hurts. I gotta take a knee.

[Joe Getty]

Watching you grow into your womanhood.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Katie Greener's team, the newswoman is. Is growing into a womanhood and has a final thought. Katie, stop saying that.

[Joe Getty]

We have a hilarious [e-mail] of the

[Jack Armstrong]

guy who got the worst mullet cut of life. And you should check it out on the website. I seriously had to pause it twice. I was laughing so hard I thought I would hurt myself. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

This isn't funny, but I throw it. Thought I'd throw it in. We've actually asked cops this question many, many, many times over the years with various cop panels. How many cops that you worked with shouldn't have been cops? And the answer is always about a quarter.

[Jack Armstrong]

About a quarter of cops shouldn't be

[Joe Getty]

cops, according to other good cops, for

[Jack Armstrong]

a bunch of different reasons, which is troubling. Yeah, it is troubling. Gosh, my final thought's a heavy one. I think every generation thinks the great sometimes terrible things of history. We're just part of history and they couldn't happen now.

[Joe Getty]

Correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

And boy, is that wrong. Is the war against Islamo fascism going to be as huge and terrible as the war against the other kind of fascism? Who knows?

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

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Are you keep your age a secret years old, Katie?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I'm 37.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, 37.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

See you tomorrow. God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

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