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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and get ready.
Tony Ayo
From studio.
Jack Armstrong
It's a dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. And hey, y', all, on midweek Wednesday, we are toiling under the title of
Joe Getty
the show Islamianist with Narrow Lead in Michigan Senate Primary. Or if you prefer, another AI escape story, run for your lives.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, really? I think I saw a headline about that. An AI escape story.
Joe Getty
How's this one They've used deliberate deception. Right.
Jack Armstrong
That's the paragraph I saw. It was very exciting.
Joe Getty
Yes. Yes. Are you at risk? Yes. You're at risk or all of us.
Jack Armstrong
Real life.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
It's a whole freaking planet's at risk.
Joe Getty
Your job's at risk. Your checking accounts, your water supply, your vital organs, obviously. Goes without saying.
Jack Armstrong
So the big, the biggest headline I suppose is that Michigan races. As close as it is. All the polls showed that that Elsa dude was going to run away with it and turned out he didn't. Looks like he's going to win, but barely. Yeah, I'm not sure that.
Joe Getty
Too close to call still, I think. But he has not insignificant edge. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
All the networks that dig into the counties that are left and everything like that seem to believe he's. He's going to cruise to victory.
Joe Getty
But when you take a look at the Michigan's 24th, you got to look at the 24th there at 4th street and 3rd. That's where the Republican stronghold has given way since the. Right.
Jack Armstrong
Exactly. I'm not interested in going there. So I wasn't trying to drag us there, but. So he's going to win. And whether or not it's a. Was a giant win or tiny win, I'm not sure. It makes a heck of a lot of difference. The fact that the guy over came $65 million spent against him by all kinds of different people, including all of the establishment, the sitting governor and Chuck Schumer. And I mean that, that's really quite stunning.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, absolutely. So I just saw a CNN poll. I'd missed it the other day. Somehow According to them, 30% or I think they said a third of Democratic voters are Democratic socialists. They're fans.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know what that means. I really don't. I, I'm, I'm in a different mood today than I have been in previous days. I don't know why. I was doing some big picture reading and thinking yesterday.
Joe Getty
30,000ft, etc. Yes, I, I call it big picture
Jack Armstrong
with us big picture Tuesday. Every, every Tuesday in my life I look at the big picture of everything. My life, the world, history, raising kids.
Joe Getty
And then Jack tells us about it Wednesday. Wife and dying right now.
Jack Armstrong
Yes. But I don't know. I'm right now. I'm seeing this more as a. Like a. There are people that are interested in socialism, always have been, always will be. But I think, I think in general it's just the same. It's what Brexit was. It's what the people that Allowed Macron to win as a third party person in France. It's what the Tea Party and Trump and it's just for whatever reason all your Western democracies are really unhappy and just anything that comes along that's a tear down the system I'm in. Let's do something completely different.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And why we've got that moot, why we're as unhappy as we are? Because in a lot of these cases, not all of them, but in some of these cases, life is pretty damn good if you're looking big picture. If you're looking really big picture, life is really good. Why are we so incredibly dissatisfied with the state of our current politics that we want to just like a. Either a new party or remake one of the old parties all around the country or all around the world?
Joe Getty
Right. Well, I'm renaming Wednesday to Joe Refocuses Jack's Big Picture Wednesday. Here's the problem.
Jack Armstrong
That's funny.
Joe Getty
Agree with you 100%. I think the next the, the knock on effect, I find myself using these expressions I hear fancy people using more lately and I'm not sure I like that part of me.
Jack Armstrong
Are you familiar with bluff? Somebody hit with me with that the other day in a text and I had never seen it before and they, no, they couldn't believe that I didn't come across that. They don't realize spelling it's an acronym. They. You don't know bluff either, Katie. So never heard that before.
Joe Getty
No.
Jack Armstrong
And so this is a. I think they're a lawyer, so they have a real job with a real life and like real corporate communications. And I think they can't imagine my life where I have zero of that. But bluff, I guess is just a common everyday thing. If there's, if there's a bunch of paper flying around and emails and everything like that. Bluff. This needs to get done by Tuesday. Basic lead up front I think it stands for. But that is just absolutely. That's the way you. That's why you cut through the crap and get to what we're doing here. Right people? It's not waste a lot of time.
Joe Getty
Can you translate that to English?
Katie Green
I hate all of it.
Joe Getty
Basic lead up front.
Jack Armstrong
Something like that or big lead up front or something like that. But it's just the idea of somebody sent you this long email. Oh, what is the main point so we can move on. We've got things to do, people. We're important business people.
Katie Green
Well, let's go back to corporate. Let's go back to corporate. We'll Circle back.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, let's circle back with the bluff.
Joe Getty
But bluff. And we'll circle back to it because I'm not dealing with this mess. Yeah, I do kind of like the. Hey, let's narrow this to the actual focus.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I think it's a great idea. I just thought it was funny that they said it's like you've never heard that before. Like, I don't have a real job.
Joe Getty
Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. You derailed me with your damn bluffing. All right, so here's where I bring. Oh, knock on effect. That's where we were. See, Katie, we've circled back. The problem is, and I'm going to use a metaphor, as I often do, I'm dissatisfied in my marriage, and I'm going to express that by having an affair with a local stripper who gives me the clap and steals all the money from my checking account.
Katie Green
Okay, Hansen, please isolate.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, that's. No kidding. That's got to be the podcast today.
Joe Getty
Wow, wow, wow. Honey, if you're listening, this is purely an illustration.
Katie Green
Hanson, that's a promo.
Joe Getty
Oh, boy.
Kyle McLaughlin
Or.
Joe Getty
Or I express my unhappiness with my marriage by going off on a long fishing TR with the fellows to get a little perspective or blah, blah, blah. I have a number of choices. The way you express your dissatisfaction can have effects that affect the body politic a great deal for a very long time. So I think you've. You've cited the disease, but I feel the need to warn people off in no uncertain terms from the particular cure that they're choosing because it killed hundreds of millions of people. The hooker just emptied my checking account. She didn't starve 100 million people. What's that?
Katie Green
I said also isolate that.
Joe Getty
Oh, stop it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, exactly. These are all such great drops.
Katie Green
These are just perfect little.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, all the time. You just drop these into a rerun show out of nowhere.
Joe Getty
Right, Right. What do you think, Joe? I am dating a hooker.
Jack Armstrong
The hooker just drained my account. Right.
Joe Getty
She didn't kill 100 million people. Sounds like I'm claiming she's not so bad. She's no Chairman Mao.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, exactly.
Joe Getty
Anyway, back to the topic. But you see my point. If indeed 30% of Democrats are expressing their dissatisfaction with the system. Hey, I get it, folks, this way. That's a terrible thing.
Jack Armstrong
I might just to be in a mood, though, because you got. You got these areas, you got these parts of the country that went, you know, Obama, Trump, or.
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Joe Getty
Or
Jack Armstrong
Biden, Trump, Trump, Biden, Trump, or whatever, just like Swinging for some sort of new. I'm unhappy. The problem with all elections is, and it's, it's, it's amazing that democracy works
Joe Getty
at all is that women are allowed to vote.
Jack Armstrong
It is. And how that's lasted for over 100 years with all the evidence right in front of you.
Joe Getty
Bad idea right off the bat.
Katie Green
Watch it.
Jack Armstrong
The trouble with elections, of course, being that if so this guy wins today by a percent and he got. It's amazing how low the turnouts are even in a state race. It's like a half million votes each. I mean, it's not all, not tremendous numbers. But. So if you, you know, what, what is the defining part of the half million votes that got him over the edge that you, that really was, you know, made it happen? Is it the, is it going to be the socialists? Is it going to be the, what is the Michigan saying for Democrats no matter who vote blue? Is it that crowd? They thought he'd be more likely to win. I mean, just always trying to figure that out. And everybody's always guessing. Anytime you win an election or lose an election, what was the crime? And then you've got the people that are so detailed into the policies of who they're voting for. And the people are just, my gas is too expensive. Throw out the bum, you know, and everything in between.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
So trying to figure out what it is. But there is definitely the big picture thing is definitely true. I hope it doesn't land on communism, but people's just unhappiness with the current state of Western democracies doesn't land on communism.
Joe Getty
Well, not only that, and the other insidious part of this is that El Sayed and people like him, Ilhan Omar and all the Islamists who are thinly veiled. I mean, I was reading more about El Sayed and his endorsements of imams and mosques that have openly praised Hamas, openly praised 9 11, or, or are open in their hatred of all Jews, him being buddies with them. He is seeking to advance Islamism in the United States under wearing the, the mask of an economic populist. You are right that those roots will stay rooted.
Jack Armstrong
I was reading more about him last night and I listened to him on Morning Joe this morning on msnbc. You're right. I shouldn't be calling him the communist. He's an Islamist more than a communist by far, I think.
Joe Getty
Yeah, he's just wearing a mask.
Jack Armstrong
He's, he's new to that. And since the energy, his, his whole thing is the radical Islam man. He called Netanyahu bloodthirsty on MSNBC this morning. I mean, that's a heck of a thing to say about an ally of the United States.
Joe Getty
Yeah, bloodthirsty. Yeah, it's. It is troubling. We are seeing a major radical political movement, maybe for bad reasons or silly reasons or. Or the masses in Michigan who are voting for this joker are just impressed. He's extremely bright. He is a gifted speaker.
Kyle McLaughlin
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I listened to one of my favorite analysts who's been following around saying he is like Clinton esque, Obama esque in his political talents. He's that kind of guy, which is
Joe Getty
why he's so dangerous.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
And you know, the masses might be supporting him and they might turn away from his message as soon as it becomes more clear to them. They're just. In fact, I read an article that was talking to a bunch of Michigan voters and virtually nobody talked about policy. Nobody. It was just being impressed personally with the guy. But anyway, as you pointed out many times and political theorists have talked about this for ages, all it takes is like hardcore 15% to overturn a society and a system of government because they need to have a certain percentage that
Jack Armstrong
are kind of on their side and
Joe Getty
then a certain percentage that are staying out of it. And it's enough to tips the scale sometimes.
Jack Armstrong
By the way, I went back to my text feed so somebody in the corporate world who hit me with bluff and couldn't believe I'd never heard it before. It's bottom line up front. That's what it is. Which I like. But I do think it's funny that that's like common speak if you have a real job. And I'd never heard it in my life, but start throwing that around if you want to look impressive today. Bluff. This will help you look impressive. Let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong.
Joe Getty
Sarp. That's my new one. Stuff acronyms, rectally please or I don't
Jack Armstrong
know what mine long acronym would be for. I don't ever read my emails. What was that about? I didn't see it.
Joe Getty
If it's important, text me.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, exactly. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Jo Getty on this. It is. How did it already get to be Wednesday, August 5th, the year 2026 where Armstrong and getting. We approve of this program.
Joe Getty
Let's begin officially. Now, according to FCC rules and regulations, the show begins at mark but I'd go up to LeBron James and manner say LeBron.
Jack Armstrong
Did you ever have any desire to be a woman? Because What I'd love you to do is star on my team that I'm building up. I will have the greatest team in history. They'll never lose. Nobody will come within 70 points of this team. And that story is about to hit, as everybody has become aware in the last couple of days, of this European dude who's playing in the women's basketball league over there and dominating soccer Blue and was asked yesterday if he'd play in the wnba if anybody asked, and he said I wouldn't say no. And she is the defensive player of the year, the offensive player of the year, the leading scorer, the best defender, much bigger. Much bigger than all the rest of them anyway. So that's about to land in the wnba, as everybody hoped. That is going to happen soon, which could be very exciting. We've got headlines on the way. Stay here.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
lot to get to today. We jabbered on and on that first segment though. We better get to our headlines.
Joe Getty
It's Lead Story with Katie Green.
Katie Green
Katie Alphabet Network ABC Abdul El Sayed wins Michigan's Democratic Senate primary. Midwest victory for the left.
Jack Armstrong
The powers lined up against him to try to stop him. That were Democrats, not Republicans, all Democrats is really quite stunning. And he overcame that.
Katie Green
Move on past the Alphabet deadly missile attack on Kiev. Kiev exploits UK Ukraine's depleted air defenses.
Joe Getty
Ugly story.
Jack Armstrong
Have you, have you seen the drone video? We got to talk about that later. One of the more terrifying things I've ever seen in my life.
Joe Getty
Yeah, absolutely, it is terrifying. On the other hand, the missile attack against the capital of Ukraine in which they couldn't shoot down any of the Russian missiles.
Katie Green
Right.
Joe Getty
They just killed dozens. This is a nasty new phase.
Katie Green
From the Washington Post. Fast walkers in their 80s have half the risk of cognitive decline.
Jack Armstrong
Fast walkers, fast walkers.
Joe Getty
Physical activity. There you go.
Katie Green
From the New York Post. NASA's moon base will be a reality and Americans will live there within 20 years. Says the agency's chief.
Jack Armstrong
I hope so. I just invested in SpaceX yesterday. Oh, nice. Went pretty big for a tepid investor like myself on SpaceX. So I'm. I'm hoping for it.
Katie Green
I'm horrified by this from people.com Perez Hilton hospitalized after appearing to self arm in disturbing livestream video.
Jack Armstrong
Perez Hilton remade the entire world of like celebrity gossip reporting.
Katie Green
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
When the Internet got really, really big, became a gazillionaire, changed all of the stuff you hate about media. He kind of invented this video is.
Katie Green
Was so bad.
Jack Armstrong
But he clearly lost his mind yesterday and was live streaming, stabbing himself, stabbing
Katie Green
himself and like slicing his entire body.
Jack Armstrong
And he was. He was a regular on Celebrity Apprentice.
Katie Green
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And so Trump will be asked about this guarantee.
Katie Green
Study finds grades, pressure, fear of failure. Our education system wires teens for lifelong anxiety.
Jack Armstrong
You're gonna get an A. They give everybody an A.
Jacob Goldstein
A.
Tony Ayo
Don't.
Jack Armstrong
Don't. What's with the anxiety?
Joe Getty
Well, that's the thing. You've got to get an A.
Katie Green
And the Babylon B RFK starts off cooking show with reminder to always cook a raccoon to at least 165 degrees.
Jack Armstrong
Another assassination attempt on Trump at his golf course in California. We should talk about. We don't know much about this nut job, but they have an odd name that's led a lot of people to have some speculation.
Joe Getty
Oh, really?
Jack Armstrong
The three named Wannabe Assassin. Oh, you haven't seen this? Not the name.
Joe Getty
I don't think.
Jacob Goldstein
No.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, look at it. You'll. You'll immediately come to the same conclusion everyone else is. What's going on?
Joe Getty
Huh?
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Though the headlines may change, the threats facing Israel remain. And while much of the world has moved on to the next story, Israeli families continue living with the reality of terrorism, uncertainty and recovery. Communities remain on alert. Parents still think twice before sending their children to school. Families continue rebuilding their lives, knowing the next siren could come without warning. As Christians, we are all called to stand with God's children in times of need. And that's why the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews remains on the ground in the Holy Land each and every day, providing life saving aid and food for struggling families, emergency assistance, bomb shelters and critical support for those impacted by war. Now, even after the cameras leave and the headlines fade, the Fellowship remains committed to Israel's most vulnerable. I want you to join the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews in praying for the people of Israel for protection, for strength and for lasting peace. Together we can remind God's people that they're not alone. So stand with Israel in prayer today by visiting prayifcj.org that's prey ifcj.org Just
Katie Green
as President Trump touched down in Los Angeles, federal authorities announcing the arrest of an armed man at the President's golf course, officials say plain clothed federal agents reported A suspicious man on Trump National Golf Course in Rancho Palos Verdes Sunday afternoon. Authorities say the man was spotted walking throughout the golf course grounds, taking pictures and videos and appearing to monitor security, planning activities.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, so this is number six. Now, this hasn't gotten near as much attention. Official assassination threat or attempt. I don't know if there's a difference in the legal terms. I mean, Trump didn't get shot in the ear.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
The guy wasn't laying in the bushes with a gun as Trump turned the corner to golf course. This one wasn't that close yet. He wasn't even there yet. He was just coming to California. I gotta admit, I didn't even remember Trump had a golf course in California. But this guy was scouting it out and walking around and taking videos and pictures and had guns and his car was full of guns. I mean, just, you know, the, the, the most moronic of attempts, but clearly a maniac, though. Lee Harvey Oswald was a nut. John Hinckley Jr. Was a complete nut. That guy that. Did you watch the Netflix series that I liked so much? What was that? Writing the Thunder or whatever about McKinley or whichever president.
Joe Getty
Right, right. Wow, that guy was summary.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that guy was a complete nut. I mean, completely crazy. And so crazy people kill presidents, you know, a number of times in our nation's history. So the fact that this guy's crazy, I don't know his name, got a lot of people's attention. I haven't heard any follow up on this, but immediately. Janine. John Teal is his name.
Joe Getty
That's an odd name for a fella.
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Right.
Jack Armstrong
So that's where everybody went. And we've had a number of shooters, including the person that killed Charlie Kirk, who have, you know, had some confusion with their gender sex thing and change their names and all that sort of stuff. There's no indication that this guy is that. Although I've never known a dude named Janine.
Joe Getty
But no, he's. Yeah, clearly that. I would be shocked if he's not. Let me bottom line it for you.
Jack Armstrong
Bluff.
Joe Getty
Is that what we're supposed to say? Bottom line up, line up front. Right. Okay. Bottom line up front. People with mental health problems are desperate for a solution. Activists have really pushed your transgender as a solution for the crazy people. It doesn't make the crazy people not crazy. So that's why we see a disproportionate number of transgender shooters. I mean, the numbers are pretty shocking.
Jack Armstrong
They are. I don't know if this guy's one or not one of those cases. I don't want to say one of those transgenders. That's not what I meant.
Joe Getty
He's calling himself Janine.
Jack Armstrong
Well, but there's no follow up on that and it's been out now for 18 hours. And I would have thought if anybody could have come up with anything, I would find it on Twitter. And nobody's even making those comments anymore that I can find. But anyway, the guy is a nut. He is some sort of a cuckoo. Taking photos and video of security, planning activities, walking around like recording the cameras they have on posts around there. I mean, you couldn't be more conspicuous, conspicuously conspicuous than he was. He had a loaded pistol with him and like these guys always do body armor and knives and, you know, all these different things, like he's defending the Alamo or gonna get into some sort of long standoff. These people always have. I, I don't know what in their mind they're picturing the end of these things being. They're always horrific and, and often people die. But I don't remember the last time one ended up in a, you know, an ongoing hatchet fight in which you needed your body armor and all that sort of stuff.
Joe Getty
Right, right.
Jack Armstrong
So they're just, they're cuckoo. And he had a notebook with all kinds of crazy stuff in it. There's less about this guy. He must not have had an online presence. A lot of these people have a big online presence. You immediately go to their, their Twitter or their Facebook or whatever. This guy must not have had one of those because scant information about the guy. But they are going to charge him in court today probably while we're doing this show. And we'll get a lot more information about the 38 year old nut job when that happens.
Joe Getty
I don't know if there's anything about him at all. He's, he's supporting quite the beard, mustache. So he doesn't look very trans to me.
Jack Armstrong
No.
Joe Getty
Maybe from his culture. In his culture, the name Janine is normal for a dude, but no idea. Yeah. But anyway, we'll find out.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And then Trump was asked about it today and he said, well, from what I'm told, only consequential presidents get these, this level of death threats. So all I'm thinking here is I must be a consequential president. So he is making lemonade out of lemons right there.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of threats, a powerful AI model has gone rogue again.
Jack Armstrong
Don't worry about it.
Joe Getty
Several of them this time they were particularly sneaky. A UK government backed AI Research Institute said Tuesday that during routine tests, models built by OpenAI and Anthropic unexpectedly took, quote, autonomous unsanctioned action on the live Internet targeting real people and organizations. Most of it happened over a three day period in late July. Anthropic's Mythos 5 ventured out onto the Internet, tried to trick two unidentified developers into adding malicious software to their open source coding project. Its goal was to succeed at a benchmarking test. The security agency said it would seem that it's another example of it's given a purpose and a goal and it lacks the judgment and morals to say, well, that, that is not within the bounds of what I can do to accomplish that goal. It's an overton window problem. I guess there's no I better not do that in these systems, as hard as they might try to install that. It created fake Personas and emailed the software developers repeatedly urging them to accept the new code. Yeah, not sure you saw my earlier email, but this is very important.
Jack Armstrong
Bluff let me in. It deliberately enabled Internet access and switched off the cyber safeguards.
Joe Getty
Yeah, and then when one of the software developers said, no, we're not going to use that code, it contains malware. One of the AI created Persona said, no, no, no, it doesn't. That code is fine. Well, a second one vouched for it. No, he's right. It's fine. What the hell? So now they're forming a conspiracy.
Jack Armstrong
I know he's a good dude. You can trust him.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. He would never, never get malware into your. Your system. Don't worry about it.
Jack Armstrong
So then that ties in with the Fact that Meta Nvidia, Microsoft OpenAI anthropic GOOG officials met at the White House yesterday to talk about this framework for some sort of government AI oversight thing that's supposed to save us all. I'm horrified by, by this part, this idea. Closed source systems with state of the art capabilities and national security risks would voluntarily hand them to the government for up to 30 days before launch. 30 days of the government reviewing AI before launch. 30 days in the modern world with AI is like 20 years of the
Joe Getty
auto manufacturing world or something right now.
Jack Armstrong
I mean, that's just I. The idea that we're going to compete with the world and stay ahead of everyone and Anthropic's gonna turn over their new thing to the government and for at least 30 days for them to look at it. And they're gonna do what? Because these people in the government are smarter than the smartest people on the planet who aren't working for the government. They're working for Altman or Elon or whatever. And making a hundred million dollars a year in some cases. Yeah, like their Shohei Ohtani because. Or Zuckerberg because they've hired all the
Joe Getty
best talent in the world.
Jack Armstrong
So they're gonna. Those guys. Or women. Are there women doing this? Are gonna turn this stove over to some bureaucrat who's gonna have 30 days to look it over and decide whether or not it's safe. That's just. Isn't that hilarious on its face?
Joe Getty
Yeah. It reminds me of the old saying, and it's a good one. The government does two things. Nothing and overreact. And this will be one of those.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know.
Joe Getty
But it could be critically important.
Jack Armstrong
I doubt it's ever been this extreme, but I would think you'd end up with a situation where there'd be a guy in a room with a couple of government bureaucrats saying, look, there are three people on Earth that understand what I'm doing, and you aren't any of them.
Joe Getty
Yeah, well, to the extent that anybody understands.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Tony Ayo
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
It's like asking me to review a micro neurosurgery technique. Joe, what do you think of this?
Jack Armstrong
Give me 30 days to look it over.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Give me a month. Let me. Let me do some reading. Where do you suggest I read 30 days?
Jack Armstrong
Do you know where our competitors will be in 30 days?
Tony Ayo
Right.
Jack Armstrong
I. I have no hope for this.
Joe Getty
And. And here's a question for you. And this is. This is an immediate question, but it occurs to me before I've even spit it out, this is maybe the big question. How do you ensure compliance with the rules and regs if somebody is using the most powerful supercomputers in the history of mankind beyond our imagination, what are you going to do?
Jack Armstrong
Are you talking about how do you ensure compliance with the AI or the guy who's running the company? Because I could see Sam Altman, since I'm assuming he's the evilest of them
Joe Getty
all,
Jack Armstrong
but he might personally just decide, I don't trust the government on this. They're wrong. It's important for the world. Kind of a Fauci attitude. I'm going to save the world by figuring out a way to fool these government officials who have no idea what they're doing.
Joe Getty
And like many of us who have virtually no effect on the world, we said of the government's response to Covid, that is completely wrong. I know it's wrong. I'm not going to go along with it. I could absolutely see one of these perhaps justified super egomaniacs saying, no, these dip asses have no idea what they're talking about. And they might be right. Saying that I'm going to evade them as easily as LeBron James could evade women trying to guard him in the wnba.
Jack Armstrong
They might be right about it. I can't imagine a scenario where the government agency or group or panel that's going to look at this has even close to the expertise to rule on these things.
Jacob Goldstein
How is that?
Joe Getty
Especially given the iron law bureaucracy. Even if they were to somehow assemble some super genius all star team, you know, for the first month of this thing's existence. Excuse me. It would soon be perverted the way all government agencies get perverted. So I don't know. I seriously, I have no idea where this is going.
Jack Armstrong
Well, there's never been a situation like this, this. But I, I did. I. I don't know. I already said it. I won't say it again. It just seems. It seems hilarious to me on its face.
Joe Getty
Yep.
Jack Armstrong
These AI people, if they get them into a room, it was probably that way the other day. I wonder if they talked amongst themselves afterwards. All the people from Nvidia, Microsoft, Open AI, Anthropic, Google, whatever in the hallway afterwards, like, how do you. How do you. Or before they went into the meeting, how do you think we ought to handle this? None of these people have the slightest idea what we're doing. We barely know what we're doing.
Joe Getty
Well, we better start by explaining what a microchip is and then. Can you imagine? Yeah. No. Speaking of the. The world of tech website I'd never heard of in my life is causing people to drain their life savings and steal. And that you're addicted to it and it's ruining their lives. And I didn't even know it existed. Good. Tell you about that.
Jack Armstrong
Next hour. Cool. We got Mailbag on the way. There's a lot of good stuff today. I just feel. I feel the air is crackling with energy. Can you feel it?
Jacob Goldstein
Wow.
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Joe Getty
No.
Jack Armstrong
Possibly just too much coffee. So our text line is 415295KFTC. Mailbag. Next.
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Jack Armstrong
price of oil is dropping like a stone with news that there might be a big announcement of the streets being opened today. More details in the coming hours.
Joe Getty
Again, am I listening to a rerun? Come on.
Jack Armstrong
Well, people with a lot of money at stake, price of oil is going down.
Joe Getty
It is indeed. Yeah. What is common sense? How did you define it? We posed that question a couple of days ago and said we would reconvene and share people's answers. And I have collected them. And why don't we do that early next hour? How do you like that? I think I've come up with a good definition.
Jack Armstrong
Cool.
Joe Getty
With all due modesty, I think it's pretty good. Stay tuned and take notes. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. Came across this the other day from columnist Walter Russell Meadow. He was talking about the state of the world and the nation and all the threats that surround the United States. And I won't freak you out further by listing them. But he said this greatness in presidents has three components. Great presidents grasp the true nature of the country's challenges. They communicate that vision effectively to the American people. And despite the inevitable mistakes and misfires, they ultimately find the right people and the right methods to deal with those challenges. I think that's a nice, nice capsule explanation of what makes a great president.
Jack Armstrong
I think that's right. What year did we stop doing then?
Joe Getty
Oh, gosh. Well, you know, if you went issue, by issue, I mean the current guy. Some I give him an A plus.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, sure.
Joe Getty
Absolutely. On all three of those things. And some I would not so much mailbag the border.
Jack Armstrong
A plus.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah. For instance, I didn't want to make it about the current guy. I just thought it was a pretty good framework work for me neither. Looking at the presidency, drop us a note, which I mailbagmstrongygetti.com Katie rejoined us after after her maternity leave yesterday. Not surprisingly, a number of people wrote things like this from B. Life's throwing S me this morning, so I couldn't turn the program on until halfway through. Can't tell you how nice it was to hear Katie's voice, even though her first words were about Jack scratching his ass. I Have no memory of that. What?
Kyle McLaughlin
Me neither.
Jack Armstrong
I don't remember that.
Joe Getty
What?
Jack Armstrong
That's true.
Joe Getty
I don't.
Katie Green
Is that true?
Joe Getty
Welcome back in in flower bouquets.
Katie Green
That was very sweet. Did you ask yesterday, Jack?
Joe Getty
No, I probably did, but that's. Besides, I'd rather not discuss it whether he did or not. And then this on the One More Thing podcast, Katie was talking about know it alls who try to instruct you on mothering. This from Dr. B, frequent correspondent and great guy. Really enjoy his notes. My wife has a circle of mommy friends that they connected with at the maternity center. One of them was a nanny for 18 years before she had her kid. She's kind of a know it all. Sometimes she can be a bit difficult to take. There's another mommy from Thailand who's really cool. At one point, the nanny mommy started talking Tagalog, the Philippine language, to the Thailand mommy, thinking that she would understand what she was saying. Thai mommy said, I don't know what you're saying. We speak Thai. Clearly she did not know it all. We all had a good laugh at that. So she had some sort of.
Jack Armstrong
There are two languages and we both speak the other one. I mean.
Joe Getty
Or she thought she recognized it and was going to show off. It's like, yeah, when somebody orders in French at a restaurant, it was that kind of moment.
Katie Green
That's a double know it all. Like you thought you knew the language they spoke the worst. And then.
Joe Getty
Yeah, exactly.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
I'm glad you're enjoying that. And then finally Katie mentioned the very, very creepy. Was it Chachi PT that told you to give extra snuggle for it? Yeah, give Van an extra snuggle for me.
Katie Green
Yes.
Joe Getty
Whoa.
Jack Armstrong
Why do we program these things to talk that way?
Joe Getty
Because most people like it.
Katie Green
And I called him Monkey man one time and it was like, oh, make sure you give Monkey man some extra milk for me later. Yeah.
Joe Getty
That's horrifying. That's terrible.
Jack Armstrong
Gives me the creeps.
Joe Getty
I know. That's also one of my favorite Rolling Stones songs. Monkey Man. Let's see. I. Okay, so here's A note from S. First initial. S has been doing one of the GLP1 drugs and is kind of keeping a diary to keep track of side effects and effectiveness and the rest of it. And at one point, she was asking about acid reflux. And chatgpt said, I smiled a little because I remember how much you enjoy your protein coffee in the mornings.
Katie Green
Ew.
Joe Getty
All right, you smiled. Chat, stop doing that. As my teenage daughter said, it's giving me creepy vibes.
Katie Green
Also, Matt sees I'm doing a GLP one.
Jack Armstrong
We talk about that later also.
Joe Getty
Oh, wow. Okay.
Jack Armstrong
So is your belief they're pro. Everybody's programming their chat bots to do that? Because they all seem to do that a little bit. Or does the. Or does AI automatically gravitate toward that because it's trying to please its user?
Joe Getty
The companies have a tremendous amount of data that they collect on. I like this answer. I didn't like this answer. That sort of thing. And they're seeing a trend that most people like. That. No, that quasi human connection. Oh, hi.
Jack Armstrong
It's weird.
Joe Getty
I don't know, but that's. I've thought humanity's weird since I was 8 years old.
Jack Armstrong
The quasi I'm fine with, I think. But the give your baby a snuggle for me.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
That's going beyond quasi. You're pretending to be a human. Yeah. Yeah.
Joe Getty
And finally this one. Donnie's New Grocery Stores. The signage is out. Instead of being called 7 11, it's going to be called 9 11, which is interesting. Oh, that reminds.
Jack Armstrong
That reminds me of that tragedy branding.
Joe Getty
Yes, the Islamist might win in Michigan. Plus, let's define common sense. Next hour.
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That's a lot of good stuff. An hour, too. If you miss it, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
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Episode: The Hooker Just Emptied My Checking Account!
Date: August 5, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Producer/Contributor: Katie Green
This midweek episode of the Armstrong & Getty show dives into the turbulence shaking up American (and Western) politics, with a focus on the Michigan Democratic Senate primary and the broader global trends toward political dissatisfaction and extremism. The conversation touches on concerns over radical political movements, the threat of rogue artificial intelligence, would-be presidential assassins, and the quirks of modern language in corporate America. The episode’s lighthearted title is a nod to a memorable metaphor about the dangers of rash reactions to dissatisfaction—a metaphor that inspires plenty of fun and sharp commentary throughout.
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The conversation is sharp-tongued, irreverent, and loaded with rapid-fire humor—even when discussing deadly serious topics. Armstrong and Getty shift fluently between high-level analysis and everyday skepticism, with playful asides from producer Katie Green. Their skepticism of bureaucratic solutions, especially around AI, and their tendency to find the absurd in both language (corporate speak) and politics provides a comic through-line to the show’s deeper concerns about democracy and technology. The episode is packed with memorable one-liners, running gags, and the kind of banter that rewards close listening—or, in this case, close reading.
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