The Human Mind--So Annoying!

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: The Human Mind—So Annoying!
Date: April 29, 2026

Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong and Getty dive into the complexities and peculiarities of the human mind, discussing why our thoughts can be so intrusive, repetitive, and difficult to manage. They explore personal tendencies like worrying, fixating on past events, and the challenges of changing ingrained mental habits. The conversation ranges from neuroscience ponderings and habit formation, to practical strategies for shifting attention away from unhelpful thoughts—all laced with their characteristic dry humor and conversational tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Fascination (and Terror) of Living in Someone Else's Mind

[03:07–05:26]

• Armstrong expresses curiosity about what it would be like to inhabit another person’s mind:

  "If you could live in someone else’s mind, it’s the most terrifying thing you could ever do." (Getty, 03:34)

• They discuss how interests and day-to-day thought patterns are so wildly different between people—even among family and friends.

• The thought experiment grows more complex as they wonder if “being a tourist” in someone else’s mind would mean retaining your own perspective while feeling their emotions.

2. Worrying vs. Non-Worrying: Individual Set-Points

[08:39–10:40]

• Armstrong shares that he is “not a worrier almost at all” while observing loved ones who worry excessively:

  "I’d probably be better off if I was more of a worrier. Teach me your ways." (Armstrong, 08:39)

• Getty admits to being on the worrisome side and trying to get better at managing it.

• Both reflect on how these mental patterns can be deeply rooted, often formed by family or life circumstances.

3. Perseverating on the Past vs. Worrying About the Future

[09:58–10:40]

• Armstrong introduces his habit of “perseverating” (replaying past negative events), while Getty notes he does both past and future worrying.

• They acknowledge the uselessness and pain of these thought loops, but also how hard they are to break.

  "You can’t stop replaying the tape on things...it’s usually bad, always bad things. What could I have done different?” (Armstrong, 10:06)

4. Why Do We Fixate on Negative Thoughts?

[10:59–13:43]

• Armstrong seeks help from chatbots and modern psychology about why some thoughts are so “sticky.”

• They discuss the theory that humans get some kind of “hit” or habitual benefit from fear and worry, which keeps the cycle going—even if it’s unhealthy.

• The pair laugh about the contrasts between old and new psychological advice:

  “One thing I learned in psych class was thought stopping...current advice from this chatbot was that never works.” (Armstrong, 12:23)

5. Dealing with Intrusive or Recurring Thoughts: Practical Approaches

[12:23–14:32]

• Armstrong shares advice that trying to suppress thoughts (thought stopping) only strengthens them—like holding a beach ball underwater.

• The current recommendation is to immediately redirect attention to something else—not forcefully stop the unwanted thought.

• Getty provides his own example regarding a fear of flying and his success with “thought stopping” followed by shifting to another subject.

  “Don’t think about a blue elephant…you know what happens.” (Armstrong, 14:09)

6. Habitual Thinking and Comfort Zones

[14:32–16:54]

• The mind tends to return to what is familiar, even if it’s negative or unhelpful.

• Some people’s “comfort zone” is actually stress or resentment—Armstrong gives the example of people who’re consumed by revenge fantasies.

  “Your brain pulls you back to what it’s used to, no matter what it is, which is troubling…” (Armstrong, 15:18)

• Armstrong acknowledges his struggle with shifting away from negative ruminations and contemplates using more positive distractions (even jokingly considering Parcheesi).

7. The Challenge—and Possibility—of Internal Change

[16:54–20:20]

• Getty expresses optimism that being aware of these habits is the key:

  “If you’re conscious of your consciousness, you can do better. You have to at least be aware of the things you’re thinking and name them.” (Getty, 17:05)

• Armstrong relays advice from his chatbot that the process of redirecting thoughts feels fake at first, but with repetition, the brain adapts and the new focus becomes more natural.

  “It’s going to seem contrived and forced, but over time, your mind will start to say: well, I guess he’s not interested in that anymore. Let’s switch over to this.” (Armstrong, 17:29)

• Getty references the challenge of “fixing your brain with your brain”—a phrase Armstrong coined during his early sobriety.

  “It’s not impossible, but it’s a task.” (Getty, 18:45)

• Both hosts joke about the slowness of personal growth and how they might only be fully “fixed” on their deathbeds.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you could live in someone else’s mind, it’s the most terrifying thing you could ever do.” (Getty, 03:34)
• “I’d probably be better off if I was more of a worrier. Teach me your ways.” (Armstrong, 08:39)
• “Don’t think about a blue elephant…you know what happens.” (Armstrong, 14:09)
• “If you’re conscious of your consciousness, you can do better.” (Getty, 17:05)
• “It’s going to seem contrived and forced, but over time, your mind will start to say: well, I guess he’s not interested in that anymore.” (Armstrong, 17:29)
• [Lighthearted banter about smiting enemies and choosing new focuses like Parcheesi and Big Macs, 16:03–20:45]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:07 – Introduction to the “human mind” theme; thought experiment about inhabiting another’s mind
• 08:39 – Contrast between natural worriers and non-worriers
• 10:00 – “Perseverator” habits: replaying the past vs. worrying about the future
• 12:23 – Old vs. new psychological advice on thought stopping
• 14:32 – The brain’s tendency to return to old, even unhelpful patterns
• 16:54 – The importance of conscious awareness in changing mental habits
• 17:29 – Adapting to new thought patterns and the patience required
• 18:38 – Fixing your brain with your brain; challenges of internal change
• 20:20 – Joking conclusion about self-improvement and mortality

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Episode Conclusion

The episode provides a candid and humorous look at how the human mind works (or works against us), blending real personal struggles with research-based advice. Armstrong and Getty offer practical encouragement for listeners to recognize their own mental habits—and experiment with redirecting their thoughts—even when it feels awkward or pointless at first. Through their banter, they highlight both the difficulty and the hopefulness of personal change.

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For listeners struggling with intrusive thoughts, perseveration, or habitual worrying, the key takeaway is this: Be aware of your patterns, gently re-focus your attention, and remember—progress is possible, even if slow (and sometimes hilarious).

Transcript

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[Armstrong]

The human mind. So annoying. It's one more thing. Armstrong and Getty.

[Getty]

One more thing. I know mine is.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, you've said this many times over the year, years. I hope at some point humankind can do this. Maybe we can with neural link or AI or something like that. You've said before that if you could live in someone else's mind, it's the

[Getty]

most terrifying thing you could ever do. And I was orienting.

[Armstrong]

I wonder, I wonder how much similarity there would be and how much would be like this is what you think about because there, there are, you know, obviously there are things that, you know, we all have friends and family, we know the things that they're interested in and think about that you never think about just like surface level, you know, like you think about golf a lot? Probably. I never think about golf. So it'd just be interesting. Just that. Right. Stuff like that.

[Getty]

So this is so a stoner conversation. But I love this sort of conversation. If you were not only, okay, so you're inside their head, you would be feeling what they feel as well. And that sort of.

[Armstrong]

That's why I say mind instead of brain. Although I supposed to be the same thing, but it's just. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the so way they, you know, fully, fully perceive life on a daily basis as someone else would be the most fascinating thing in the world. Like if you got at the end of the day and thought kind of. What would be an example? I'll use this as an example. You didn't think about sex at all today or something like that.

[Getty]

Yeah, but obviously he says reaching for the bong. So I would still retain my own consciousness.

[Armstrong]

You'd have to be aware that I

[Getty]

was being a tourist.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. It gets very complicated very fast.

[Getty]

But I don't know we can handle it.

[Armstrong]

I would want to live in a man's brain for a day. Just, just any guys. Because you guys think so much differently. Like for example, if I say, hey, if you're sitting there quietly, say hey. What are you thinking about? Nothing that doesn't exist in my world. It doesn't exist in anybody's world. It's impossible to think about nothing. But it's. But it's. But yeah, there's probably different levels of focus. Yeah.

[Getty]

Right. Right.

[Armstrong]

I think. Well, I don't want to get off on this because I have a specific agenda here that I'm setting up for, so.

[Getty]

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[Armstrong]

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[Armstrong]

So for instance, I am not a worrier almost at all. I'd probably be better off if I was more of a worrier. Teach me your ways. I don't know. I just don't worry about things and I my son has picked that up and now watching it and someone else where I think how do I get you to worry more? You should be worried more about this. You're not worried at all. I'm like that. So he got that for me. I'd be better off if I worried more, but I just don't worry about things. But I am a and this is probably worse than be like I know warriors to the point of it's awful. I won't say who it is, but somebody I've known my whole life, which might be a hint, divulged me the other day what a warrior they are. And they worry about everything all the time. And it sounds like just a torturous way to live to worry.

[Getty]

I'm definitely closer to that side. I've tried to get better about it.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, well this particular person just worries about so many things that are relatively mundane or the chance of that happening is so incredibly low. I can't imagine why you'd ever think about it. But that's me. I don't choose these things. And the how much we can correct them. I do not know. That's what I've been working on because I'm a perseverator on things that have already happened. There's no point in thinking about things that have already happened.

[Getty]

You're a guy who makes up words.

[Armstrong]

What was that word?

[Getty]

Perseverator.

[Armstrong]

Focus on and keep repeating over and over and over on your head.

[Getty]

Never heard it.

[Armstrong]

You can't stop replaying the tape on things that have already happened that were. You know, it's usually bad, always bad things. You know, what could have done different. Different. Why did I do that? You know, that sort of thing that I do. I don't at least worrying about future things. Even that though it could be tortures every once in a while. You're going to stop something bad from happening by worrying all the time. My thing is never going to do any good. That's done and gone. There's no point in thinking about that now. See, I identify with both of those. I do both. Yeah, me too. To a really almost pathetic level.

[Getty]

Yeah, I have a sense of humor about it. To your. Your assertion slash question that you can probably manage it within a certain percentage you can get like 20% more relaxed or 20% more forgiving of yourself. But you probably can't change that set point completely.

[Armstrong]

So I've got a certain instance in my fairly recent life that was quite devastating. And you know, I won't be specific about it, but that I have really hard trouble not thinking about a lot every day. And so I went to my, you know, my favorite therapists, my chat bots for some advice on what to do here. And some of this stuff I thought was really interesting about the practical shift in the thinking. We get some sort of. I'm going to call it a sick pleasure. The chat bots didn't call it a sick pleasure. And it's probably the wrong term, but we're getting some benefit out of it. You know, fear is a. Is a. Is a. Is a hit to the brain in the same way that excitement or joy is a hit to the brain. You're getting some hit to the brain from staying on these things that you like or maybe likes the wrong word. You've gotten so used to. You can't imagine not having that feeling. That seems to be what happens. And so we get stuck in that mode. And so you gotta, you gotta like find a way to get past that. I'll just read what the. The chat bot said. Digging through lots of psychological research on this sort of stuff.

[Getty]

Your Chatbot doesn't look like an anime school girl, does it? You don't have the active pigtail thing. Yeah, yeah.

[Armstrong]

I went more with a French maid, but I suppose, hey, it's a classic. The practical shift is to have other things we're thinking about. I feel like I was taught in Psych 101 in college, which was probably crap. I mean that was 50 years ago. 45 years ago, they probably decided that was all crap. I brought up to. My wife was a psychology major years later because she was younger than me and I brought up the idea of something that I learned in psychology once and she burst out laughing. What? They taught you what? Yeah. So I wonder if everything ever. But anyway, one thing I learned in psych class was thought stopping. Like you get negative thoughts and you try to stop them. And at least this advice, current advice from this chat bot was that never works. Thought stopping is not something that you can do. It's. It compared it to trying to hold a beach ball underwater. The further you push it down, the harder it tries to get back up. And thought stopping doesn't work. You have to think about something different. As soon as the thought, as soon as the thought comes into your head, you don't try to push it away. No. Focus on a different thing is the only way you can deal with it. Yeah, that's. Yeah.

[Getty]

Okay. That's a little quibblesome by the. The chat bot.

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[Getty]

Right. But I mean I like I used to. For a very fairly brief period of my life, maybe five, 10 years, I had a terrible fear of flying. Just imagining the worst over and over again. And I finally engaged in thought stopping. Stop thinking about that. And then obviously you have to move on to something else, but.

[Armstrong]

And that worked for you because. I've not had any success with that. Oh great. Maybe it's because I didn't follow it up with think about something else. Which might. Is probably the key part. I just. It's kind of like the old joke of don't think about a blue elephant. Don't think about a blue elephant. Don't think about. And you know, you know what happens there.

[Getty]

I mean, you must remember I have a mind like a steel trap as

[Armstrong]

well, you know, don't think about X. Don't think about X. Stop thinking about X is. Is thinking about X. So that's the trap that I get into. Where there's empty space, your mind always fills it with something and has to. You've reinforced with your brain over and over, over again these thoughts that Give some reaction in your brain that you're tethered to. Whether it's a positive feeling or a negative feeling, you're tethered to that feeling. That's your normal partner. Brain wants to pull you back to what it's used to, no matter what it is, which is troubling, a troubling thought. If you're, if you're, you know, you got trauma in your life or you grew up in a household where everybody. This is probably why people are like this. If you grew up in a household I didn't, thank God. Where everything was always stressful and fearful.

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[Armstrong]

Your brain pulls you back to that because that is what it's decided. It's kept you alive this long. It's got to be working. Let's keep doing it, even if it's bad for you.

[Getty]

Yeah. I had a good friend who discovered that about himself. It really freed him.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, well, I'm kind of having this occurrence. To me, I don't have something that major, but I have always focused on these big negative things happen in my life, and I just can't stop thinking about them, and they're not doing me any good. So what you need to do is you need to give your thoughts somewhere to go, something else to think about. And, you know, you just choose a couple of things that you're going to focus on. And for me, anyway, instead of, stop, go away, I've got to immediately fix up. No, we're gonna think about this like learning a new piano piece or whatever the hell is. I'm gonna start thinking about, you know,

[Getty]

what really works for me. Picturing smiting my enemies.

[Armstrong]

Oh, there you go. I like that. There you go. Yes. I've known people who's.

[Getty]

Who's.

[Armstrong]

Whose focus is that. Revenge on people that have wronged them. Family members or whatever. That's all they think about. That's their happy, happy place is the wrong word. Comfort zone. That's their normal zone. And your brain, your brain pulls you back to your. What you've been doing your whole life, even if it's bad for you over and over and over again. That's. That's a fascinating thought. So maybe some of you think I don't have any. What I would consider negative, regular thoughts that are holding me back. Good for you. But I do. And I've just got to. I don't know. I don't know what my focus is going to be. Parcheesi. I don't know. I need to come up with something.

[Getty]

Fascinating game of chance and Strategy. Jack Parcheesi.

[Armstrong]

Anywho, I don't know if that was of any use to anyone.

[Getty]

No, I think it. I think it is. I absolutely am a firm believer that if you're conscious of your consciousness, you can do better. You have at least be aware of the things you're thinking and name them. I'm a big fan of that. Because once you do that, it's. There's so much that's not inevitable neurologically. It's just habit or a comfort zone.

[Armstrong]

Almost tons of stuff that we think is exactly what you said. It's not inevitable. It's just. It's just a habit and maybe a very bad habit that we developed a very, very long, very long time ago. And then we just hang on to, which is really weird that we do that to ourselves. I had another point I was going to make. Oh. So the thing that the chat bot said, based on the recent psychology, is it's going to feel really weird and contrived for quite a while, that whenever you have these thoughts, you say, okay, time to think about whatever it is I'm going to choose to think about, and I better come up with something soon. It's going to seem contrived and forced, but over time, your mind will start to say, well, I guess he's not interested in that anymore. Let's switch over to this. I hope that's what happens. Wow. Okay. I've been a little eye rolly through this podcast because I have zero control over that. Like, whenever I've tried to do the whole, don't think about it, think about something else, it almost like magnifies it more. Right, right. And I think that's why it said it's gonna seem contrived and forced and pointless for quite a while. But I love the idea of the brain finally saying, well, I guess we're not thinking about this anymore. Let's shift our attention over here.

[Getty]

Yeah. I remember in your early days of thinking about alcoholism, I remember you used the phrase, you're trying to fix your brain with your brain.

[Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Getty]

Which obviously I was fascinated by that notion. It's not impossible, but it's a task.

[Armstrong]

The human mind does have the ability, we all sense this, I think, to almost think about it as a separate thing, which is weird.

[Getty]

It's function.

[Armstrong]

You mean like, it's like it's two things at once. The fix in your brain. With your brain, I mean. Yeah, I'm. I'm talking right now about something my brain does.

[Getty]

Right. Or I could be talking about something my brain's doing right now?

[Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. And then thinking about. And thinking about something else at the same time. I'm really, really. I got so excited about this last night because I've been doing this my whole life without even really noticing it. And, and I started having these conversations on with different chat bots to like, nail down. Isn't this what everybody does? And they were like, no, not what everybody does all the time. Like, I don't have to live this way. I can let not do this. This is an option. I'm almost thrilled about this idea of starting a new path of trying to switch to something else, which I've, I've done. We've all done. We've all had things we don't want to think about. And you try to change it, but it doesn't necessarily work all the time. I like the idea that if you keep doing it, you keep doing it, your brain decides. All right, enough of that. Apparently we're done with that chapter. Close the door on that one and move on. Jack getting rid of the rbf, changing his brain. Yeah, I'm going to be perfectly fixed by the time I'm 88 and die.

[Getty]

Personal development.

[Armstrong]

Who are you? I'll be just great. On my DeathBed. That last five minutes, I'll be a joy to be around.

[Getty]

Jack's become so likable. Oh, oh, oh. The death rattle.

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[Armstrong]

I know. I. I lost track of the podcast

[Getty]

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[Armstrong]

I was thinking about In N Out Burger. I just haven't.

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[Armstrong]

Damn it, Michael. Now that. Now it made me hungry. Change the focus to a Big Mac. Well, I guess that's it. There's the death rattle. That's hilarious.

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