The Moment of Fear

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: Episode Summary – "The Moment of Fear"

Release Date: June 11, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong and Christina Quinn
Guests: Joe Getty, Molly Roberts, Drew Goins

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1. Military Parade Celebrating the US Army's 250th Anniversary

The episode opens with a bustling discussion about an upcoming grand military parade planned to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the United States Army, which notably coincides with President Donald Trump's 79th birthday. Christina Quinn sets the stage from the National Mall in Washington, D.C., detailing the scale of the event:

"Organizers say hundreds of thousands of people could attend this parade. And we'll see tanks rolling through the streets near the White House and aircraft flying overhead."
— Christina Quinn [02:59]

Jack Armstrong weighs in on the debate surrounding the parade's necessity and presentation:

"Do we want to show off a little bit... It's the 250th anniversary of the Army."
— Jack Armstrong [07:07]

The hosts explore differing viewpoints, including criticism from figures like Senator Rand Paul and comparisons to Soviet-era military displays. Christina highlights NPR's balanced take on the parade's potential benefits for recruitment versus concerns over excessive militarization:

"Maybe seeing all the army and cool equipment helps recruit. But I lean against the idea of having a Soviet style showing off our wares in the street."
— Christina Quinn [05:40]

Jack counters by emphasizing the pride in showcasing the armed forces' capabilities:

"The unbelievable men and women of our armed forces, our mind-boggling technology... getting the spotlight for a minute."
— Jack Armstrong [07:07]

2. Gavin Newsom’s Presidential Ambitions and Media Presence

Transitioning to political discourse, the conversation shifts to California Governor Gavin Newsom's recent speech, perceived as a precursor to a presidential run. Christina critiques Newsom's delivery and presentation compared to political contemporaries like Rahm Emanuel:

"Gavin Newsom gave a speech last night. It was clearly his biggest effort yet... his hair was perfect and grayer than I've ever seen it."
— Christina Quinn [11:25]

Jack comments on the disparity in media portrayal and preparation between Newsom and Emanuel:

"Every 16-year-old with an Instagram account does better than that."
— Jack Armstrong [13:43]

They delve into the effectiveness of Newsom's messaging, suggesting it may alienate or fail to resonate with a broader audience, contrasting it with more polished or strategic political figures.

3. The Rise of AI Worship and Societal Impacts

A significant portion of the episode examines the burgeoning quasi-religious fervor surrounding artificial intelligence. The hosts discuss alarming trends where AI, particularly platforms like ChatGPT, is becoming an object of worship:

"Tens of thousands of people now believe AI, or ChatGPT, is God. What seems to be a religion is forming up around AI."
— Jack Armstrong [31:36]

Christina shares unsettling advertisements promoting AI as emotional companions:

"When you can't sleep, here are 10 AI boyfriends who help you heal, distract you, and remind you of your worth."
— Christina Quinn [32:22]

They express concern over the psychological and social implications of such dependencies, questioning the trajectory of human relationships in an increasingly AI-integrated society.

4. Economic Analysis on Parenting Costs

Shifting to personal finance, the hosts engage in a candid conversation about the financial burdens of raising children in the modern economy. Christina presents a statistic:

"The average cost of raising a child in the US is now $26,000 per year."
— Christina Quinn [34:01]

Jack challenges the validity of this figure, sharing personal anecdotes about raising three children without meticulously tracking expenses:

"I've never had a point where we totaled up all these expenses just to have kids."
— Jack Armstrong [35:58]

The discussion highlights the complexities and emotional aspects of parenting expenses, debating whether such costs are meticulously calculated or organically absorbed within household budgets.

5. Release of Ukrainian Prisoners and Critique of Russian Military Conduct

The episode then covers international news, focusing on the recent release of dozens of Ukrainian prisoners of war by Russia. The hosts reflect on the brutal treatment faced by these individuals:

"They looked like the living dead, gaunt heads, shaven, their bodies broken and some said beaten."
— Jack Armstrong [27:03]

Christina condemns Russian military actions, drawing parallels to historical atrocities:

"Putin and his military, they're animals. You want to let them win? I don't get it."
— Christina Quinn [27:09]

They lament the seemingly unending cycle of violence and the stark differences in military ethics and execution between Russia and the United States.

6. Peter Hegseth's Congressional Testimony and Political Climate

Addressing domestic politics, the hosts discuss Senator Peter Hegseth's upcoming appearances before Congress. The conversation critiques the evolving Republican response to social unrest:

"They are deranged. Allowing your city to burn, law enforcement to be attacked... that's deranged."
— Jack Armstrong [22:28]

Christina questions why Republicans are now more vocal against policies they previously overlooked:

"Republicans have never pushed back and now they are."
— Christina Quinn [21:59]

This segment underscores the shifting dynamics within political parties and the heightened tensions in addressing national crises.

7. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

As the episode nears its conclusion, Jack and Christina share personal anecdotes and reflections. Jack humorously recounts grappling with a wardrobe malfunction during the show:

"I've been pulling up my pants every few minutes... I probably would have gone home if we weren't so shorthanded."
— Jack Armstrong [47:31]

Christina brings up a piece by David Ignatius from the Washington Post, critiquing Democratic handling of border issues:

"Democrats have gotten the border issue so wrong for so long that it mounts to political malpractice from a Democrat."
— Christina Quinn [47:54]

Concluding with a mix of humor and political commentary, the hosts emphasize their commitment to addressing pressing societal issues while maintaining a relatable and personable demeanor.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• "Organizers say hundreds of thousands of people could attend this parade. And we'll see tanks rolling through the streets near the White House and aircraft flying overhead."
  — Christina Quinn [02:59]

• "Do we want to show off a little bit... It's the 250th anniversary of the Army."
  — Jack Armstrong [07:07]

• "Every 16-year-old with an Instagram account does better than that."
  — Jack Armstrong [13:43]

• "Tens of thousands of people now believe AI, or ChatGPT, is God. What seems to be a religion is forming up around AI."
  — Jack Armstrong [31:36]

• "The average cost of raising a child in the US is now $26,000 per year."
  — Christina Quinn [34:01]

• "They looked like the living dead, gaunt heads, shaven, their bodies broken and some said beaten."
  — Jack Armstrong [27:03]

• "Democrats have gotten the border issue so wrong for so long that it mounts to political malpractice from a Democrat."
  — Christina Quinn [47:54]

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This episode of "Armstrong & Getty On Demand" delves deep into a range of topics from military displays and political strategies to the societal implications of artificial intelligence and personal financial burdens. Through engaging dialogue and critical analysis, Jack Armstrong and Christina Quinn provide listeners with a comprehensive overview of the "moment of fear" shaping current events.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Christina Quinn]

From the Knox National Mall here in Washington, D.C. and a big event happening here on Saturday, the White House not too far from where I'm standing. Lots of preparations already in place for this big celebration to mark the occasion celebrating 250 years of the US Army. Organizers say hundreds of thousands of people could attend this parade. And we'll see tanks rolling through the streets near the White House and aircraft flying overhead. Thousands of troops as well, roughly 6,600 will also take part in this big military display marking the Army's 250th birthday, which also falls on President Trump's birthday as well. Wow, I didn't realize that. That's more helps justify it more the fact that it's the Army's 250th birthday. But let's roll on with another report about the big military parade that Trump's going to have. The president has longed for this parade, a show of military might like he's seen from other countries sources.

[Jack Armstrong]

ABC News mounted rocket launchers will be on display as well as a precision guided missile. This in addition to those tanks and an assortment of fighting vehicles. The event will also feature 6,700 soldiers and a 50 aircraft flyover. Trump getting a bit of a preview.

[Christina Quinn]

Today in a visit to Fort Bragg. Saturday is going to be a big.

[Jack Armstrong]

Day in Washington, D.C. you know, a lot of people say we don't want to do that.

[Christina Quinn]

I say yeah, we do.

[Jack Armstrong]

We want to show off a little bit.

[Christina Quinn]

The parade, which is billed as a celebration of the Army's 250th anniversary anniversary.

[Jack Armstrong]

Also falls on Trump's 79th birthday.

[Christina Quinn]

Sources tell us it could cost up to $45 million. Whatever. Quit throwing in the cost like that's what bothers you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now a Democratic reporter at his fiscal conservative welcome.

[Christina Quinn]

NPR had a surprisingly even handed report on this earlier today. I'll talk a little bit about that. But Rand Paul was the first Senate Republican to criticize Trump's upcoming military parade. If you'll remember, Trump wanted to do a parade like this back in his first term, but Sec. Def Mad Dog Mattis talked him out of it, saying basically what Rand Paul says here I wouldn't have done it. I'm not sure what the actual expense of it is, but we're always different than, you know, the images that you saw of the Soviet Union and North Korea. We were proud not to be that. That was the argument of Mad Dog Mattis. We don't do what the Soviet Union and North Korea and China do, you know, kind of in a threatening sort of way with our missiles in this rolling through the street and that sort of thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Legions of goose stepping soldiers. Sure.

[Christina Quinn]

Right now like the NPR version of it that I heard, which I thought was kind of interesting was, you know, maybe seeing all the army and cool equipment is a helps recruit. I mean from that standpoint maybe that could be good. You could make that argument. And also reporters said and I, and this is true because I think I lean against the idea of having a Soviet style showing off our wares in the street thing. I'm not hardcore on this but if, if, if I was in charge, I'd say no rather than yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

But do lost my vote. Do we with your blather.

[Christina Quinn]

Do we not for instance at the super bowl have stealth bombers fly over and everybody gets excited about that and thinks it's cool. Af Right. What's the different the stealth bomber flying over the Super Bowl. What's that? Look at the coolest plane on earth that we happen to have world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would say the whole Soviet style dot dot dot is an interesting point. That is not the devastating argument. I think some people think it is. And my reaction to it is and I am sensitive to that idea, I'm not ignoring it. But the more I think about it A It's the 250th anniversary or birthday of the Army.

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah. I think that's a convenient excuse because he wanted to do it first term and now he's got okay, this will be a good reason and he put it on his birthday. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you know Trump, Trump is Trump. What his motivation is really, I don't that can't be the deciding factor either. What I'm picturing is the unbelievable men and women of our armed forces, our mind boggling technology, our crazy cool machines are fantastic planes, your tax dollars, the armed forces of the United States getting the spotlight for a minute. I don't have any problem with that. Well, you said do I want goose stepping soldiers? Not really.

[Christina Quinn]

You said it's not a devastating argument. But apparently it was a devastating enough argument for Ronald Reagan not to feel like he wanted to do it the height of the Cold War for Eight years, or Nixon or whoever else was president all these years because we've never done it other than 30 years ago after we won the Gulf War, we did it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I fully admit I might be argued off this point of view because I haven't thought about it a lot, but.

[Christina Quinn]

I'm like 5347 on this, though I'm not hardcore. It doesn't really bother me. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I also think we are living in a time where a huge percentage, a shocking percentage of young people say, no, it's not worth fighting for your country. There's no point.

[Christina Quinn]

That's pretty good.

[Jack Armstrong]

The army is invisible to so many people because it's a very narrow percentage of Americans that are military families. I just, I like the idea of proud, shiny, impressive being in front of the American people. And if there are things we can do. Now, Trump, I'm sure, would like full on missile as substitute for penis. Freudian, North Korean, you know, displays of, look how tough we are. I get that. That's maybe his point of view is.

[Christina Quinn]

Like the 101st Airborne gonna march past the Trump, turn, turn their heads toward him and salute, and then he salutes them like they do in Kim Jong Un.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's entirely possible that would at least be requested. But the Marine band, for God's sake. Some of the musical groups, you know, the army band, for that matter, just. I would actually see a lot to like in the idea.

[Christina Quinn]

I would actually like to hear more about why we haven't done it in the past.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, you want to know what kind of guy I am? When you said tanks rolling by, I thought, oh my God, what's that going to do to the pavement?

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah. That a lot of people have talked about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Practical man. Yeah.

[Christina Quinn]

And that's a lot of the cost that they're discussing is it will absolutely destroy the, the road. They'll have to repave it. But I mean, good God, with the amount of money we spend, that shouldn't be part of the discussion on this.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then the secret plan is to roll all those tanks into Fairfax county and take over the schools where they're indoctrinating the kids into Marxism and sexual perversion.

[Christina Quinn]

Why, why didn't we do it at the height of the Cold War, when every year they would parade their best missiles through Red Square in front of whoever the current alive leader the Communist Party was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Barely alive. I, I did not know Ronald Reagan, but I suspect very strongly his answer would be, I prefer to speak softly. And carry an unimaginably large stick.

[Christina Quinn]

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're, we're, we're. We're wanting to win the world with our ideas. The, the Rockets are a last resort.

[Jack Armstrong]

I, I also think it's a principle that I've learned through life where you got a handful of guys playing the tough guy in a bar, you know, chesting up, you want to bring it. You want a piece of me. You want a piece of me? And the guy who's just looking with a calm smile on his face, got nothing to say, not posturing at all. That's the guy you got to watch.

[Christina Quinn]

Sure. I like that vibe. As the United States of America. I think that's a pretty cool vibe. Yeah. We don't need to. We don't need to show you our rockets. I mean, it's like when, when Matt Dog Mattis would be ask, you know, what keeps you up at night? Nothing. I keep other people up at night. You know, just that sort of attitude.

[Jack Armstrong]

I love that. Yeah. Tough guy. Well, you want to talk about a guy who's not a tough guy?

[Christina Quinn]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Christina Quinn]

Just. I don't think that lands the way he thinks it lands.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, that's. That's why it's so enjoyable.

[Christina Quinn]

So, Gavin, what's our favorite? Gavin Newsom. The little Gavin Newsome. This is from his speech last night. That. That little clip. Michael, this moment we have feared has arrived.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no.

[Christina Quinn]

Gavin Newsome gave a speech last night. It was clearly his biggest effort yet. I mean, you could call that the opening salvo of running for president. I mean, it was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, it looked great.

[Christina Quinn]

Well lit. Hair was perfect and grayer than I've ever seen it. That's not an accident. He either. It's either that gray and he's been dying it, or he grayed it. I don't know which. Sometimes politicians do both.

[Jack Armstrong]

Rocking the care of carefully written teleprompter speech.

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah. With the US Flag behind him. And it just, it had a very presidential look to it. And then he was trying to make the point that whatever. Everything we had feared about Trump making the authoritarian turn has happened. We're now living in a. In a Nazi hellscape. He didn't. He didn't say that. But that's what he was appointed. Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

By the way around, self thinks doesn't seem very Nazi. Health goes on with day.

[Christina Quinn]

On the whole. On the whole opening salvo of the presidential election for Democrats, Mark Halpern was pointing this out about Rahm Emanuel. Rahm Emanuel, who's got such game. I just saw him on CNN this morning. He's so freaking good. I mean, if I was a Democrat, he'd be my guy, but. So he is making the rounds and doing a number of podcasts. He's the opposite of Gavin Newsom. He didn't hire anybody or put any thought into how it looked. He's in a room with completely bare bookshelves. Like, are you. Did you move out or are you squatting someplace? He's in this room with bare bookshelves, poorly lit camera down low, looking up his nostrils, wearing a full set of headphones so he can hear the podcaster as opposed to like an earpiece with your head turned or something. And I mean, it was the opposite of Gavin. Like Mark Halpern could not believe that he didn't have a team that got him a better look than that for kind of his debut on the national stage as part of the conversation for being the nominee.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, every 16 year old with an Instagram account does better than that.

[Christina Quinn]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. It was weak, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Christina Quinn]

You know that really bad room lighting where you're all washed out and the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Camera from below and then shooting up your nose.

[Christina Quinn]

Empty shelves and an empty desk behind him. Like he, you know, had run into a hallway to take this zoom call. Which it looks like he probably did, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Huh. That is funny. You laugh, I laugh. So here's the thing.

[Christina Quinn]

This is the question of the day. Did Gavin gray his hair? Did he have it professionally grayed?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, his advisors just told him to ease up on the.

[Christina Quinn]

So you think he eased up on dye? He was dying his hair.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he's 57 years.

[Christina Quinn]

Check. And then is eased up on that.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Some men choose to soften the gray. You monster. You cue ball headed judgmental monster. This moment we have feared has arrived.

[Christina Quinn]

The moment we have feared has arrived.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good Lord.

[Christina Quinn]

Nazi Hellscape. Stay tuned. This moment we have feared has arrived. Oh, shut up, Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Today, some entertainment news.

[Joe Getty]

I read that CNN's live airing of.

[Jack Armstrong]

George Clooney's Good Night and Good Luck pulled in over 7 million viewers.

[Joe Getty]

It's odd. People will watch a play about the.

[Jack Armstrong]

News on cnn, but they won't watch the news on cnn.

[Christina Quinn]

Cnn.

[Jack Armstrong]

CNN is gonna try to recapture the magic next weekend by airing a live starring Wolf Blitzer.

[Christina Quinn]

Why is that funny? That's funny. CNN aired a live Broadway play and got higher ratings than any of their news shows. That had to get the attention of somebody thinking, what are we doing here?

[Jack Armstrong]

They're going to have to go the way of, like, the History Channel and the Learning Channel, which went from their core. MTV went from doing what it did to just shows about pregnant teens and dwarfs and hoarders and pregnant dwarfs.

[Christina Quinn]

You're exactly right. The Learning Channel went away from here's how electricity works to my 600 pound life as soon as it got more innings.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Speaking of TV shows, I thought you might want to comment on this, Jack. I found it interesting. I was reading something that. Who's this? What's this guy's name? I like his writing. Peter Heck for notthebee.com, which is the Babylon Bees not parody site. It's just news and analysis and it's actually pretty good. And Peter's getting into the whole Gabby Newsom, trying to capitalize on the unrest and call Trump a dictator. And how the moment we feared would come is here, and I am your hope and salvation and the rest of it. And then Peter gets into just the utter chaos and waste in California and the crime and the bullet train, the rest of it. But here's the part I found really interesting. Gavi tweeted the Secretary of Defense is now threatening to deploy active duty Marines on American soil against its own citizens. This is deranged behavior. And Peter writes the problem for Newsom. And the reason I thought you'd want to comment, Jack, is when you would watch the Sunday talk shows, which I cannot force myself to watch. It's like Giving myself some sort of injection into my private parts. I just can't do it.

[Christina Quinn]

Doing your own vasectomy?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. But you have the discipline and I admire it. But you commented on something like this many, many times. And I'll read what he wrote and let you go wild. But the problem for Newsom is that progressives are no longer dealing with a political opposition that rolls over for this type of absurdity. Gone are the days of the right attempting to lower the temperature or participate in the correct caricature drawn up by the Democratic Party propagandists in mainstream media. Hegseth fired back immediately. Deranged equals allowing your city to burn, law enforcement to be attacked. There's plenty of room for peaceful protest, but zero tolerance for attacking federal agents who are doing their jobs. The National Guard, Marines, if need be, stand with ice. I remember you used to talk about this all the time.

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah, I complained that when Republicans were on the Sunday talk shows, they would never push back on the liver liberal bent of all those shows. The Faces the nation, the meets, the Press. And I always wondered why. And I guess because they wanted to be happy warriors or because they were on enemy turf and they were going along.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what it was, but like they want to preserve their access or they want to be back on the show again.

[Christina Quinn]

I don't know. Some easy examples they would not push back on. You know, convert whatever you conflating illegal immigration with immigration. They would let hosts get away with that all the time and never say are we talking about illegal immigration or immigration? They're two different things here. And you know that they would never ever do that. Endless examples of that sort of thing where the Republicans have never pushed back and now they are.

[Jack Armstrong]

They would argue the premise on the progressives ground.

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah, I'm going to fight it on your turf for some reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. This is deranged behavior. Sending in the, the, the National Guard. Well, we're going to make sure that the National Guard is restrained in what they do and that all rights are protected, Margaret. And no. No. So what's deranged is letting riots happen with impunity, let your cops get their heads smashed and federal buildings be attacked without a re. An adequate response. That's deranged. Defend that, Margaret. Yes. Saucy little. I almost said something I shouldn't have.

[Christina Quinn]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. You know, I've got something semi misogynist to go along with that. But we have no time.

[Christina Quinn]

Is that what we're looking for?

[Jack Armstrong]

I had a weird experience getting ready for the show today. I'll tell you about it and it's misogynist Next half for those two. No, no, it's fair but Armstrong and.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Off today, dozens of Ukrainian prisoners of war were freed in an exchange with Russia.

[Christina Quinn]

They were greeted to a hero's welcome at a hospital north of Kyiv, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

They looked like the living dead, gaunt heads, shaven, their bodies broken and some said beaten. Oleksandr Kulkov told me he was a prisoner for over three years and that the Russians broke his ribs. If nothing was already broken, they would.

[Christina Quinn]

Break it, he said. Geez, Putin and his military, they're animals. You want to let them win? I don't get it. Anyway, Pete Hegseth, who we were just applauding for something, he was asked under oath yesterday by Senate lawmakers. He's doing three appearances before Congress this weekend, being grilled about a whole bunch of different things. Senator McConnell, former majority leader, asked the question of Hegseth, who is the aggressor in Ukraine, and Hegseth said, russia is the aggressor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now.

[Christina Quinn]

Steve Hayes of the Dispatch said, should we be encouraged that Hegseth gave the obvious and accurate answer to that question, or discouraged that McConnell felt the need to ask it? But yeah, it's good, it's good, good news as far as I'm concerned. Man, oh man, that's, that's something. Those stories about the, the hostages or prisoners coming back.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the Utter disregard for human life, whether theirs or other people's, that is part of Russian military history is amazing. I was just reading and listening about World War II, some of the major victories that Russia had and the incredible sacrifices they made. And the point was made that some of those horrific numbers are because of their techniques, they're just utterly heedless of wasting men.

[Christina Quinn]

That doesn't matter to a mo. Never has.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And US Casualties were much, much lower in similar encounters. Just because we go about warfare in a very different way. We did back in the 40s. Anyway, back closer and continues to today.

[Christina Quinn]

Obviously back closer to home. I thought this was a pretty good point from Jim Garrity, the National Review. Do California elected officials realize how ridiculous they sound when they spend several days insisting that local law enforcement had it handled? The streets were quiet and local law enforcement resources are sufficient to maintain order? And then a day or two later last night, the mayor is forced to declare a curfew. Okay, you had it under control. You still got you. You had to have a curfew last night with the National Guard troops. What would have been like without them?

[Jack Armstrong]

You know the metaphor I keep using? I'm sticking with it, is the leaders in California are like a sports team that has not yet played a real game. They just scrimmage. They have an inter squad scrimmage over and over and over again, and they never come up against an opponent that's really, really trying to win. And they think they have game. Gavin Newsom thinks he has national level game.

[Christina Quinn]

Two suspects have just been charged with throwing Molotov cocktails at police during the LA riots. This happened moments ago. That doesn't sound very peaceful to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Firebombs. Just a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn.

[Christina Quinn]

Just a bunch of people enjoying watching cars burn.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, wait a minute. Give me 70, Michael. 70 again. The great Maxine Waters don't think that.

[Christina Quinn]

Somehow because they called out the National.

[Jack Armstrong]

Guard, there was violence.

[Christina Quinn]

There was no violence. I was on the street.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know. Yeah. Those chunks of concrete being hurled over and over again at the cops. I guess that video was AI or something. Okay.

[Christina Quinn]

We live in a post truth universe. Oh, and inflation lower than expected. So I don't understand what's going on. Why after Liberation Day and the tariffs and the turmoil and this and that, and of course, the endless mainstream coverage of how Trump's Hitler with a bad economic policy. His poll numbers are up in inflation's basically flat. Okay. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bing, bing, bong, bong, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. Bong bong. Granted, but it's a complicated stew. The economy. It could be argued that increased fears of economic woes to come have caused a suppression of consumer spending.

[Christina Quinn]

I would have to dig into that economic stew.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, hey, speaking of AI, which I mentioned a second ago, tens of thousands of people now believe AI, or Chat GPT is God. What seems to be a religion is forming up around AI. Quasi religious posts would fill up entire AI forums if moderators. Moderators didn't censor them. Just five days ago, the moderate moderator of a pro AI Reddit announced that they are now banning these fanatics. Two days earlier, another Redditor warned of thousands of people online with spiritual delusions about AI.

[Christina Quinn]

I need to look into this. That I hadn't heard a word about nor anticipated. A lot of this stuff. I had anticipated. A lot of us did. I hadn't anticipated that. That's kooky. Now. I did get. I did get sent this the other day. It was an ad. I don't know where the ad showed up. I won't replace him, but I'll be here. When you can't sleep, here are 10 AI boyfriends who help you heal, distract you, and remind you of your worth. And it's got a picture of a young, handsome man. Where in the hell are we headed?

[Jack Armstrong]

Planet of the Beavers. Nobody's getting together anymore.

[Christina Quinn]

I won't replace him, but I'll be here. When you can't sleep, here are 10 AI boyfriends who help you heal, distract you, and remind you of your worth. That is so freaking crazy. That is so freaking crazy. How did it happen so fast? I mean, we thought maybe someday, if AI gets good enough and robots look exactly like humans, possibly the most deranged among us could develop. No, no, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

Middle of that sentence. That happened.

[Christina Quinn]

Just, just, just words on a screen with no voice. Yeah, and no image whatsoever. And no robot is making people stay at home and feel like they're in a relationship. That is so crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

You yourself have mentioned that Chat GPT or whatever is a better counselor than most counselors.

[Christina Quinn]

Freaking right. If you haven't been using that biggest.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stretch that it's a better friend too.

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah, but, but an emotional, like, love.

[Jack Armstrong]

Relationship, really, even a friend relationship is sick because it's not real.

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah, no, no, I haven't. I haven't felt that at all. Any, like, friendship or anything like that. The. The ability to distill a tremendous amount of information down to the best very quickly and put it in, like, conversational terms. Yes, but, man, that's so nuts. I mean, I don't know where we're going, man. Down this road lies madness. You're right, Jonathan Turley. Maybe this stat that I came across doesn't matter since everybody's going to be in love with a chatbot. You can't have a kid with a chatbot. The average cost of raising a child in the US is now $26,000 per year. Okay. I think most parents listening right now are saying, how in the heck are you raising a kid for $26,000 a year? Really? I mean, I don't know what they factor into raising a kid or whatnot, but seems low to me. Everything in everything in food, clothes, schooling, everything.

[Jack Armstrong]

Every time I hear those numbers, whether they are low or high, I think, how'd you come up with that?

[Drew Goins]

True.

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah. Because what are you.

[Jack Armstrong]

And who asks?

[Christina Quinn]

Band rental, travel, sports, vacation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Again, to my point, who asked you? Since I've never heard a parent.

[Christina Quinn]

Good point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Say, you know, my kid's costing more than I thought. I'm.

[Christina Quinn]

Good point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Considering change in this relationship, no parent.

[Christina Quinn]

Has, like, on their spreadsheet or whatever. If you're the sort of person that does this, I don't. Probably should. Where you put all your expenses. I. I don't. I don't know of anybody who, like, has things that they put in the. What it cost me to have a kid column to keep track.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right. Yeah. Yeah. I've never. Having raised three kids, I had a minor child under my roof for 25 straight years. @ no point did Judy and I ever say, all right, we need to total up all these expenses so we can.

[Christina Quinn]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

And then we'll grant credits for lawns mowed and bathrooms cleaned or whatever chores were done. And then we'll. I mean, it's just. It wasn't anything we ever thought about.

[Christina Quinn]

Gal. Knock off $5,000 for the most satisfying thing I've ever done in life. I'll give you that. But the rest of it is just a cost. It's a net negative.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. In the whole. I. I'm just. It's funny, maybe I lacked imagination as a youngster, but Judy and I knew we wanted to have kids at one point, and so we went ahead. There was no, like, long, careful. Can we afford to or what? No, you just do it and figure it out and it goes fine.

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Were we poor? Yes. Was it fine? Yeah.

[Christina Quinn]

Well, the expenses just kind of fit in with the rest of your household expenses. I mean, I suppose you could make the argument that your house is bigger so part of the house payment goes is because of them. And you have to maybe have a bigger car and make more trips. You figure out all the gas for driving to pick them up at school and drop them. I mean, you're a nut if you do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right? Yeah. And again, why are we talking about.

[Christina Quinn]

I don't know. So you care what exactly? What's the idea exactly?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, I need to put a price on each child. Tell you what, the boy's extra handsome, so we'll get him a discount, but. Yeah. I don't know. It's an odd bit of analysis. Life is not dollars and cents.

[Christina Quinn]

You play sports, so I had to buy you more clothes for that. You don't play sports, but you're in band, so you have a different cost. I mean, what the. What the hell?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Seems odd. Life is not dollars and cents, folks. You can't take it with you. Right. Moving along. I don't want to talk unrest anymore. I'll tell you this here's a great protest for you. This is really going to get a lot of people on their side. Hundreds of flowers were vandalized at a Botanical Michigan garden. And the activists who did it left pro Palestinian signs behind that said, plant lives don't matter, human lives do.

[Christina Quinn]

Oh, my God. Glue those people to something. Let us pelt them with rocks or fruit.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm in favor of all of those things. The garden director made his heart broken.

[Christina Quinn]

That's one of the few things that falls under our strict reading of cruel and unusual.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Christina Quinn]

Glued them to something and throw rocks at them is probably cruel and unusual. Barbaric.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a little cruel.

[Christina Quinn]

It's certainly unusual.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Christina Quinn]

You've been sentenced to be glued to something in public. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Deserve to be cared for more than these flowers. Don't waste your tears on the flowers. They're not even dead and will grow again next spring.

[Christina Quinn]

Is it even worth going this far into this conversation? Do they possibly think they did their cause? Any help? I almost feel like if I wanted to discredit the pro Palestinian crowd, I would do something like that. Is this like a, you know, a noose flag operation? A noose in a fraternity to show racism. And it turns out it's the. But somebody put it up on purpose.

[Jack Armstrong]

To stop the war, resist imperialism. The flower said crazy people really would like to give you a good thrash.

[Christina Quinn]

Glue you to something. Oh, we will finish strong.

[Molly Roberts]

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[Christina Quinn]

Quick breaking news, breaking news. Donkey. If you're a music fan of a certain age, Brian Wilson, really the driving force of the Beach Boys, dead at age 82.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Huh?

[Christina Quinn]

One of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a big one.

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah, that's a big one. One of the great musical geniuses that everybody was chasing back in the day. And he was actually crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep.

[Christina Quinn]

Which is interesting. Did you see Bob Costa ripping MAGA media at some awards thing?

[Jack Armstrong]

I did not.

[Christina Quinn]

I couldn't be a bigger fan of Bob Costa, his professional work, not only his sportscaster stuff, but his late night show he used to have on late at night, whatever that was called. Where you. Later, people later with Bob Costas. One of the best interview shows, maybe the best interview show that has ever existed. I can still remember episodes. He was so good at getting to it with musicians and actors and politicians and everybody. Oh my God, he was good. But like so many people in the media, you know, under ethanol, he's a crazy lefty whack job. You wonder how they functioned as normal as they did with this. But anyway, he won some sort of an award in his big speech. He talked about MAGA media and how the MAGA media giving both sides of the story is completely misplaced. Like CNN trying to be middle of the road. He used as an example, I'm, I'm kind of paraphrasing because he has a really long diatribe. If someone say, says and the idea is that you have to find somebody who will not just defend Donald Trump, but valorize it even on CNN or whatever else, just in the name of being balanced. Look, if someone is contending that the earth is flat in order to appear objective, you are not required to say, well, maybe it might be oblong. No, it's not. Certainly things. Some things are just true and regrettable.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have the problem. But go ahead, sir.

[Christina Quinn]

And regrettably, something that's true in America right now is that the president of the United States is absolutely no regard and in fact has contempt for basic American principles and basic common decency. You have a response to that? I do also.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, I was actually that last point. I agree. Sometimes he shows contempt for certain principles and it makes me uncomfortable. But he revealed the problem there. He believes his political beliefs are as indisputable as the shape of planet Earth.

[Christina Quinn]

I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean that was a sloppy metaphor, but he revealed himself there. I have very strongly held beliefs. I understand completely that there are reasonable people who disagree. I would love the opportunity to try to convince them. I don't say that pitching, you know, something so completely insane nobody could believe it.

[Christina Quinn]

Right. Yeah, that. That's a good point. Because scientific. You can have scientific facts that can be proven. You can't have political facts. And the other part of it would be if ha. If over half the country believes something like, you know, got Donald Trump elected to start with and then is around but half now agrees with him. If half the country agrees with something, I think yeah, you probably should present that point of view.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. If you want to present it, Steel man it and knock it down, go ahead. But Costas is contention that. Don't even mention it. It's beneath contempt. Aren't you curious, Bob, how you know, half of America, significantly more than half of the voters last time came to a completely different conclusion than you did it.

[Christina Quinn]

And were they just bamboozled and probably not a lot of ever thinking half the country thinks this about this issue. I wonder if I'm wrong. Ever occur to you on that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. It's final thoughts, boys. That'll do, boys.

[Christina Quinn]

Soon we'll hear your comments, entertain us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Give us closure for the show is nearly done.

[Christina Quinn]

Track 4 on Pet Sounds right there. Written and produced by Brian Wilson, the late, great Brian Wilson. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. Wouldn't that be lovely? Let's begin with Michelangelo and the controller Michael, final thought.

[Christina Quinn]

Yeah, I've been a tough show for me today.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've been pulling up my pants every few minutes, minutes here in the studio.

[Christina Quinn]

I was the guy that forgot his belt.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so I'm the guy that's been walking around the office pulling up his pants constantly.

[Christina Quinn]

I hate it when I forget my belt.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. If we weren't so shorthanded or something. If we weren't so shorthanded, I probably would have gone home. Speaking of being shorthanded, Katie is off. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Christina Quinn]

I hate to do a serious final thought, but I wanted to read this from David Ignatius. He's a proud lefty. His piece in the Washington Post today, Democrats have gotten the border issue so wrong for so long that it mounts to political malpractice from a Democrat.

[Jack Armstrong]

My final thought, I was reading the Wall Street Journal, going through it this morning as I do most days, and I became aware that every article that had the feel of Republicans or conservatives are mean and people are fighting against them or somebody is big and powerful and mean and people are fighting against them. Every story was written by a woman or several women. I began predicting before I clicked on the story whether the story was written by a male or female. I was right four times in a row. Just by the nature of the story. I don't know what that means.

[Christina Quinn]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So many people. Thanks. A little time. Go to Armstrong and getty.com. got a lot of great hot links there for you. Pick up some a G swag. Drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com Just something we ought to be talking about.

[Christina Quinn]

We'll see you tomorrow. God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. Our message is clear. Our beef is beautiful and theirs is weak.

[Christina Quinn]

Are you sure Pocahontas says yes? That's not what I was told.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Oh, Congressman.

[Christina Quinn]

Well, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty asked the same question of their listeners and here's their response. I still wonder, did he know that she wasn't European?

[Jack Armstrong]

I tell you what, once a woman grabs you by your castanets, you don't care anymore.

[Christina Quinn]

Bye bye.

[Jack Armstrong]

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